/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

==REMINDER TO ALL MENHERA==
>M: Please don't get merch because you feel pressured or anything like that. DON'T do anything that you don't want to. We really mean it, okay?
>F: So you know, maybe you're like, "Oh, well, you know, maybe if I make a clip maybe more people will discover FUWAMOCO from there!" - it's true, but maybe you REALLY don't like video editing... Maybe don't that.
>M: However you want to, okay?
>F: You know, oshikatsu's supposed to be fun! You know, just tweeting, being loud -
>M: Being HERE with us!
>F: Yeah!
>M: That's all - that's MORE that we can ask for!
>F: Yeah, being like, "Ah! My best friend, you know, I REALLY like these vtubers called FUWAMOCO!". You know, those kinds of things, you know...
>M: So, please, don't feel like, "Oh, THIS Ruffian is doing all this and I'M not doing ANYTHING"...
>F: No. You know, oshikatsu is fun for everybody and ANYBODY!
>M: You should never feel like that, okay? So PLEASE don't compare yourselves to somebody else, okay?
>F: We just want you to have fun. You shouldn't feel pressure.
>M: We don't want you to disappear because of something, you know...
>F: Yeah, so, you know... if your smile's in trouble...
>*Both shake their heads*
>M: Just don't worry, we just want you to be here with us.
>F: Yeah, we wanna protect your smile and have fun together, Ruffians!
>M: You got it? It's not work! It should be FUN! We understand that you compare yourselves to others and stuff like that... SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY "DON'T"! We get it, you know? Because we felt it too before, okay? *reads chat message* You wish you could superchat more? IT'S OKAY! DON'T WORRY! We want you to have fun.
>F: And you know, it's the little things that count, too, you know. So, just sending a tweet like, "BAU BAU!" - that helps, you know?
>M: Yeah! Do what you can!
>F: "I'm on break right now, you know! I had a real delicious sandwich! FUWAMOCO, I had a delicious sandwich!" ... You know, it makes us happy to know that you're thinking about us cause sometimes, you know, we get a little bit lonely. Like, "are the Ruffians thinking about us...?"
>M: Please don't worry, okay? *reads chat message* You can't write well? It's OKAY! Don't worry about it!
>F: But it makes us really happy to know you're thinking about ways you can help us, Ruffians...
>M: We don't want you to get sad and be like, "I can't enjoy FUWAMOCO anymore because I compare myself to other Ruffians", okay?

>>90459901
BAU BAU
>>90459936
BAUSED

fuzzy wape!!

When will they sing Just the Two of Us?

>>90460042
https://youtu.be/0RV1AozxQxo

>>90460042
Gura just sang it this year so they have the perms

Do you think they will stay on as affiliates or ask for a proper graduation when the day comes?

>>90459885
SEX!! FWMC are made for pet play!

>>90459901
BAU BAU

>>90460231
Cover probably has forced affiliate written into every contract starting with Advent

>>90459981
Fuwawa...

>>90460330
it's not possible for Fuwawa to rape her twin

>>90460292
I think the affiliate thing started when they where developing the Hololive TCG. So now, they can keep releasing cards of talents even if they've already graduated.

>>90460374
You know what, that makes sense. So yeah, everyone is getting forced to have that clause in their contract renewals

>>90460374
Not just cards, but it also makes it easier to release extra shit for gen-related items and no one on the back end has to stop talking about them.

EHEHEHE WUFFIANS

>>90460231
I don't think they have a choice. Chloe used the japanese for graduation. Affiliate is just so they can still make money off the lifeless corpse. They have lots of long term shit like the game they are developing or the TCG.

>>90460371

>>90460384
edited image

>>90460374
I find it ridiculous when Ame admitted she has no fucking clue what that means.

>>90460384
>>90460497
Does this fluffy woman not get tired of teasing and seducing the Ruffians...?

>>90460580
Meds.

The Goddess of sex...

>>90460589
wtf

>>90460374
I would imagine cards count as additional merch?

When are they going to play some new chillaskino?

Sakamata had one of the best designs and models in Hololive. Her kimono reveal was absolute sex. This sucks.

>>90460589
Chloe also said she doesn't really have a good idea what it means either
Everyone always says "it means they can come back for cameos!" but i think that's just cope. They seem like just normal graduation but now cover doesn't have to cut them from stuff like the Eurobeat album in Ame's case

>>90461539
It means 'we can skinwalk younif we want, release merch of you if we think it will do well, put you into bigger projects if we want, and give you some small royalty every time we do'.

>>90461424
Back then, I thought she would have been a breakout star. Sex model, cute voice, great singer, very playful when teasing chat.

>>90461424
Do the other Holos that graduated, still get new art? That is a huge blow for me and the fact that no new outfits.

>>90461740
She WAS a breakout star though. She quickly became the SC queen.

>>90461754
They still get new art for a while but eventually it all starts to dry up. There's 0 reason to draw Ame or Aqua when you can draw Dooby or Sakuna now

I've seen a couple people who still draw Coco but it's like a once a month maybe sort of thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5c9WfWUBZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5c9WfWUBZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5c9WfWUBZE

>>90461740
She was one of the top superchatted vtubers, she was a star

she didn't even make it into holocure...

I hope FWMC don't memory hole Chloe when she gets added to holocure like they do for Coco

>>90462070
they will, they unlocked mel and didn't even say her name

Sex with Laffians

>>90462141
Nasty friend.

>>90462137
Mel got fired though so I can at least somewhat get that. If someone leaves on good terms I think it's sad they pretend they don't exist

>>90462141
Damn! She has knockers like that?

>>90461973
I hope a breakout SC-leader holo leaving in part due to throat issues gives them a wakeup call before we're having deja vu in a couple years

>>90462141
I no longer trust her. She's not my friend, she's Cover. People always forget that that the "You can trust Hololive until I leave" speech was giving during a stream for the Chinese broadcast on b2. Hololive is clearly going in a different direction now, not only have we had the most departures in a year ever, but 3 of them cited creative differences.

>>90462329
HoloIDs all have official accounts on b2 now. I guess they are the guinea pigs.

>>90462329
>He doesn't trust his friend
Sad.

>>90462240
Breakout SC leader is a curse. Rushia, Coco, and now Chloe.

>>90461424
I am more shocked by the fact that lapu-chan outlasted the orca.

>>90462512
Koyo... Fluffy and fuzzy... senchou...

Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa Fuwawa FUWAWA!!

>>90462329
>but 3 of them cited creative differences.
As opposed to what? That's what graduations on good terms will always say. Even Coco who was nonstop harassed by chinks and could just bring that up said to the very end that it was a matter of creative differences, she used music genres as her example. Cover wants to play one genre, she wants to play another.
At the end of the day, the corporation is bigger than any one talent. In cases of creative differences, you can bargain, comply or leave. But the corporation will do things their way.

>>90462724

>When you wake up and hear Fuwawa's sinister giggling fading away into the recesses of your mind

>>90462512
I think that when you are being showered with love and money far beyond what the rest of your company is getting you start to wonder why you need that company, especially when they keep throwing restrictions at you and taking a huge cut of your earnings. The more successful you are the more likely you are to leave, I think.

>>90462911
Anon, rushia didn't want to leave. She imploded.

>>90462859
I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA! I LOVE FUWAWA!

>>90462911
100%.Every top SC holo would absolutely make more money as an indie. So the ones that remain are here because cover is giving them something they don't think just they could get without the corporation. So for people like Aqua and Chloe it's clear cover wasn't giving them more than they were taking and they can be confident they can still make a living on their own

I love my fluffy wife.

>>90462773
>Corp. vs talent
And guess what I care about more. Do you think people who were fans of Ame, Aqua, or Chloe thought 'Yeah, today's the day my Oshi might hang up her hat with Cover'? All the talents who lately have been complaining about management, workloads, stress, etc. are nit helping me believe that Cover is doing the right thing right now.

>>90462884

>>90462911
I think for people like that, like Chloe, a lot of the stuff she probably wants to do is stuff she can realize outside of the company.
Most of the girls in Hololive don't want to be the richest streamer ever, or have 10 gorillion CCV. They just want to play games, make some music, and connect with their fans, which they can realistically do outside of the company itself.

>>90463030
I LOVE Fuwawa!!

>>90463130
I don't disagree, I just mean that the reason for the departure is what you always hear any time a band member leaves and shit like that. It's standard PR speech, it doesn't mean anything.
What I actually care about is the overworking part. FWMC always say they take on as much as they do because they want to, but apparently even if they didn't it would still be an overwhelming workload, and that's not really acceptable.
It's telling that Mane-chan told them "don't get sick", because having time off for health is not acceptable right now, which is completely pants on head retarded.

>>90462884

It's starting to reach the point where enough members are leaving and succeeding on their own that I'm worrying about a waterfall effect. I have to hope cover doesn't just ignore and accept these losses and tries to improve

>>90463130
The way they treated Ina has turned me into a Cover anti for life. I wish they'd sell Hololive to someone who cares and go back to failing to be a tech company

>>90460268
wrong!
at most, they are for hand holding

Fuwawa is the ideal woman. I love Fuwawa!

>>90463345
It's up to them at the end of the day, which is why you see people saying here that they should slow down a bit. The 'Don't get sick' shit is because they stupidly take too much on to the point that if they do, timelines for projects they're involved with get messed up and that can reflect badly on them if it keeps happening. Then we get stuff like the week of silence when someone who needs something done from them complains when it isn't on time.

>>90463441
this year had way more graduations than I expected. I can't really imagine what next year might be like now that the dam has burst in a way

>>90463444
That really got dismissed and forgotten but holy fuck was it a disgrace. If they can't even do simple paperwork and tasks like that for talents on such important things I don't know how anyone can have faith in the current management to protect member's health at all.

>>90463444
Shut the fuck up Joiji.

>>90463568
Kill yourself namedropping tranny.

>>90463483
She is perfect...

>>90463441
>leaving and succeeding on their
wait, do they get to keep the models and the brand?
I'm really new on this whole thing lol
I also wonder how much does hololive or the company pay for these idols

>>90463441
No chance. They went public. They are being raped by investors who only want short term profits. They will be hollowed out and sold off, just like every restructured business that gets plagued by venture capital.

>>90463568
I don't know who that is

>>90463629
So you do lurk here.

>>90463671
Point a loaded shotgun to the roof of your mouth and pull the trigger.

Sex with Fuwawa!!

>>90463661
the only member who could do that legally is Suisei. but the rest just make legally distinct clones of their holo models

>>90463661
>wait, do they get to keep the models and the brand?
Nope. The only one who may be able to do that is Suisei.

>>90463748
no!!
head pats only!

>>90463661
No they have to go back to a past life or a new model under a different identity but everyone else that's left hololive this year is thriving, same with doki and mint. It's starting to feel like indies are the way to go unless you really want to just coast on the hololive brand and accept all limitations

>>90463471
Demon dogs are literally made for pet play.

>>90463661
No they don't get the models and the brand they have to start over from scratch but the thing is they can just make a new model and brand that's basically a carbon copy

Yuuki Sakuna even got her own Hololive papa to illustrate her new design. It's as Aqua as you can get while being legally distinct

Dooby got a new artist but the design is basically just Ame with a tail

>>90463664
How much will it cost to buy out Advent? I want them unleashed.

Anyone know what BGM they used for the 3D Trick or Treating stream?

The credits just say "solfa"

>>90463770
Fuwawa is a hungry puppy, headpats are not enough for her...

>>90463770
Giving Fuwawa headpats as she sucks my dick like a good slutty pupper!

do you think they will do a farewell stream with Chloe like they did with Aqua and Ame? They did a song together with her and all

>>90464075
Not a chance I think, they wouldn't have retweeted that clip and made the post if they had any future plans.

>>90463821
I think this a downgrade. Looks boring and uninspiring, could be any other cat girl model out there. If FWMC graduates, I hope they choose models that pop up and make me feel amazed and not miss their old models.

With them caring so much about live performances, reincarnating as a vtuber just seems like a stupid idea. It's way easier to make it as a fleshie if you're small.
Unless they go the kson route.
They can easily afford models that look every bit as good, but not the 3D Studio and staff necessary for a cover quality live concert.

>>90464175
The only good former member model is Rushia's and she didn't make it legally distinct. Since she's fucking crazy its actually just Rushia again.

>>90464266
Actually, kson route seems like THE best choice. Revue Starlight style, regular streams in live2D with icomochi designed models, concert is them in cosplay. Kino.

>>90464175
I disagree, I much prefer Sakuna's model

>>90464390
Yeah the kson route is great if you want to go from being the biggest vtuber in the world to completely irrelevant.

>>90464390
I don’t want this, but the last part sounds kino

>>90464266
They were already planning to go full fleshie before they got accepted into Hololive
Idk if they still feel the same way now though. I'm sure they'd be afraid of losing some fans who are there for the anime girl aspect

>>90464390
Holy sexo imagining them in FuwaMoco cosplay has me rock hard... Can you imagine?

>>90464498
Fuwamoco are insanely cute...

But "Fuwamoco" are pretty homely

>>90464175
The thing is that even if you don't care for the design as much, it can still be argued that it's a positive change because it reflects the talents more.
Sakuna is a cat girl maid because she likes cat girl maids and wanted to add that to the design. Dooby went from a detective to a train conductor cause it reflects her interests more

>>90464629
its a shame that hololive doesn't let the talents pick their own models. I wonder what kronii would look like if she had full control

>>90464557
I think they're very cute but this isn't the place for this. It doesn't even really matter cause if a graduation did ever happen it wouldn't be any time soon, and I'm sure a lot of their thoughts on how they would run things has changed since 2022/2023

>>90464473
I'm talking about in the case of them wanting to leave, not that it's worth leaving just for that. Reincarnating as an indie vtuber when you care about idolshit the most is shooting yourself in the foot.

>>90464710
>I wonder what kronii would look like if she had full control
We already have Ao-kun.

>>90464629
I sometimes read it as Sukuna and Scooby… I presume they also came out with their own names? What names would FWMC come up with for their new models?

>>90464958
Mitsuki and Tatsuki

>>90464958
Not sure about name, but Fuwawa would be free from the bib, so that’s a silver lining

>>90465243
Is it a bib? Kinda looks what aristocrats wear, those fancy things around their necks?

>>90464809
kson still does idol stuff, she's not an indie technically, though

>>90464958
Sakura Miko and Sumire Miko

oh gosh Fuwawa please I have 3 hours of work left I can't again

>>90465480
Yeah, and personally speaking, I do not find the quality good at all. If that's the best one can do without a Cover tier corpo, they should do it as 3DPD.

I want to see the tism smile again

>>90465885

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpIdQ-N_0GI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpIdQ-N_0GI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpIdQ-N_0GI

>>90465971
What's the point of shilling her when it's a member stream?

>>90465945
fuzzy fuzzy sexo!!

Hello ruffians!
Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!
Day 479: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. No new cards for Anki, I'm just maintaining core 2.3k deck. For immersion I've watched three episodes of an anime.
FUWAMOCO love!
BAU BAU!

>>90466142
Good job rafferan

>>90465945
I want her fuzzy thighs to squeeze the life out of me

>>90466142
If you had done enough mining to keep up 15 new words a day for all these days you'd have a vocabulary of around 7,000 words and probably have done enough exposure to comprehend grammar at a level where you could challenge the JLPT N2 exam. Instead you are treading water around 2.3k. Seems like a waste.

This one hurts the most

>>90466107
>>90466236

>>90466444
Yeah he's got very little to show for 479 days
ngmi

Am I really the only one that finds mogogo sexy?

>>90466886
No?

>>90466886
Do you live under a rock? Most people here call you gay if you don't find her sexy.

>>90466827
this fuzzy minx it's every bit as dangerous as her sister she just hides it more

>>90465945
>>90466827
>>90466930
Mococo shouldn't be this sexy...

>>90464557
My garbage has been building up for months, I don't think it will ever be picked up.

>>90466880
It's more than most people have got, so he deserves credit for that much at least.

>>90466941
>>90466945

Mococo's body is sexy and only when you take it by force.

Sex with whores

>See CC's memberstream as live on my feed
>Click it out of curiosity
>Apparently I got a gift membership that I never got a notification for
Thanks YouTube very cool you fucking pajeets.

>>90467047
what are you gonna do, bite and scratch me? that just makes me harder

>>90466941
Yes yes she has learned well from her sister

I was checking the tracking number for a package and apparently the Canadian postal workers are on strike. No mail or packages are going in or out of the country. I wonder if Mamapuppy tried to send them anything...

https://x.com/ive_anime/status/1862104157248770464
My Moco-chan...

>>90467465
MMD porn is so bad

>>90467387
Yep those faggots are trying to cripple the countries economy.
I hate them so much bunch of useless pajeets the lot of them.

>>90467465
Why is Mococo almost always the one to watch in FWMC porn?

>>90467465
Why is everyone's hair blue.

If they graduate but start streaming on another place, that's fine. That means I can still watch and have fun times with them somewhere else. But if they graduate and that's the end? Well, I'm just going to bau bau kill myself ASAP.

>>90467530
Agreed, I advocate for mass sterilizations of all of them. It's more humane than executions, so I am willing to pay the extra cost of doing this and only eradicating the ones who resist.

>>90467542
Lack of indirect lighting, probably going with a single point light without any kind of boucing to save on rendering time, or the guy just doesn't know how to do it.

>>90467047
This fuzzy puppy needs correction

>>90467725
She is too fluffy. Someone should squish her fluff.

>>90467830
Moco-chan would cry

jwu ans saw femc's tweats
why is orca avviliating

>>90467955
Company goes public, investors tank it for short term profits, company gets ruined, investors move on.

>>90468053
tank how

>>90467955
wanting to do stuff outside of Hololive and throat pain

>>90468088
Stupid measures that give more money in the short term but ruin everything in the long term. For instance, Red Lobster sold all it's property and made owners and franchisers rent it back to them. Huge profits but unsutainable. Or Toys R Us, Circuit City, Waldenbooks, or a dozen others gutted in the name of venture capital. These vultures don't care, they make a quick buck and then leave.

The only reason they're going to graduate is if they've had enough of not being able to stream hentai VNs.

>>90468209
yeah I know, but "tank how" specifically for cover

>>90467955
I made her do it

>>90468258
now why would you do that

>>90468252
From what I've seen, a higher emphasis on non streaming activities, which if you look at any of Cover's financial reports, is the area that makes the least money. Merchandise and concerts always generate the most revenue. However short sided outside investors think, "Oh well cut that stuff that doesn't make money and increase the stuff that does" not realizing the basic fact that any Hololive fan knows, that streams are necessary to build up that audience, the parasocial love that makes people want to buy shitty made in China junk or travel for concerts and events.

>>90468316
There can be only one

Does this mean there's an open spot in hoshimatic project? Can FWMC join or do they have to make someone else graduate?

>>90468452
It means Umisea is dead in the water (heh)

>>90468507
My HG gunplay never end up looking very good. It's like slightly better detail than an action figure for a lot less articulation and strength.

>>90468507
Did a Ruffian post this or something?

>>90468985
doggie of the day where...

>>90468507
I look like this and I do this

>>90468524
Oh yeah we may finally get them singing sachihappi now, kino.
I need more cunny cunny, sachihappi

>>90468369
That's what I really don't think I'll ever understand. There's no shot in hell without streams that a decent chunk of the western audience, and even a chunk of the eastern audience, would ever be here without streams to build the start of that idol mentality. If any member was a regular idol, they would not gotten anywhere near the attention they got with streaming.

>>90469147
We're talking about a bunch of corporate suits who don't even know what a Vtuber is. They just read the quarterly financial reports and see that streaming "doesn't make money" and that "mercha and concerts do". That's why it's so retarded that every numbermonkey still uses SC as a metric, nobody gives a fuck about that.

>>90468369
This is a gross oversimplification and doesn't take into account COGS. Also, why do you need to make up some schizo theory instead of listening to the actual reasons given by those that left: creative differences, high workload, and disagreements in priority.
These are real things to criticize Cover about. The high workload is due to stipulations that if you want to do X, you must also do Y. None of this is specific to streaming. There are streaming focused talents who are very happy to be in Hololive.

>>90469276
its over, if yagoo cant buy out 90% of stockholder share hololive will get jewed to death

>>90469364
You're a gross retard. First of all, a talent wanting to build a relationship with her fanbase and suits wanting her to just shill merch endlessly and only do big events would absolutely fall under creative differences. Secondly, if you think you can toss around acronyms like COGS and look smart instead of looking like a idiot freshman who just had his first "Introduction to Economics" class, then you should realize that the reasons given in a public statement by a talent who is ostensibly undergoing a "amicable" separation from the company, (and not even that since affiliates are basically sticking around) are probably not the "actual reasons" you state, or at least, not all of them.

>>90469147
Regular idols stream too. Just not gaming streams every single day.
I do think the way Cover doesn't consider streams to be a part of their work and instead something they should do if they have time to be completely wrong, but the conflict between streams or idol was never true. Idols streamed to connect with their audience before vtubers existed.
Another point of contention is ease of doing music content. If Cover's studio worked like real venues and random holos just went there whenever to dance on stage for people to watch, then it would be much easier to pivot to more performance-oriented content, but it's dumb to do that while giving them one 3D LIVE a year. Idols do A LOT more performances, the ones Mococo liked to watch at 3AM happened every single day.
They're not just too busy with singing and dancing to stream, they're too busy with other shit to sing and dance too.

>>90469624
>big corp has identity crisis issue and fails to commit to anything in particular
Wow, tale as old as time.

>>90469366
I know this is a funny shitpost but for the benefit of any newfags here, YAGOO has always been a retard who promotes Homofags above all else. If he had his way, there'd be just as many Stars gens as actual gens. It's becoming more and more evident that A-chan was the last piece holding together what we loved about Hololive and with her gone, we're on a downward spiral.

>>90469624
>Idols do A LOT more performances
This. Real idols will start off by doing daily shows and stuff. Hololive is actually pretty sub-optimal for those interested in being idols. Great if you want a singing career though.

>>90469575
>a talent wanting to build a relationship with her fanbase and suits wanting her to just shill merch endlessly and only do big events would absolutely fall under creative differences
Conveniently ignoring the part of my post you have no answer to? It's not about streaming because there are talents that literally focus on streaming and are happy. Jesus Christ, retards like you think you can write your way out of being defeated.

>>90469896
I guess that's been my issue. It's streamers with a side of idol, not idol with a side of streamers.

>>90469995
2 3D lives + Fes a year really doesn't cut it.

>>90470052
But if you beat the piss out of your talents and make them too tired to do streams because you have them running around on the back end for all the horseshit you're putting out, then you lose out on more and more streams.

>>90469896
>>90469995
>>90470052
I've always liked streamers with a side of idol. i don't want idols that just occasionally stream. Those already existed as other people have stated. Hololive blew up because of the balance. Now they are going too far in the other direction. Besides, the ones that really want to go hard on idols can and should be allowed to like the year Suisei did 35 concerts. But it shouldn't be the norm or enforced.

>>90470052
I think it's ok if that was the bulk of the time spent too busy to stream, the real problem to me is that people are putting streams and concerts against each other when the reality is that they're too busy to do either. If they were doing 2 3D lives a year, streaming 3 times a week and just scratching their futa balls the rest of the time, then more power to them. But a lot of them wish they could do more of either of those but don't have time.
In terms of output, the thing that comes out all the time we can see is merch. They need to take a lot of that process away from talents if that's the bulk of their meetings. Yeah the merch may be a bit more soulless, but if not asking for their input on all the worthless microplastics will give them more time to use however they want, that's great.

>>90470204
If they don't have input on the merch they will also take a lower cut. (1% kek)

>>90470182
What is your definition of streaming? I will gladly accept 3-4 mocopi dancing/karaokes a week.

>>90470500
That would absolutely destroy their barkers.

>>90470182
What is the difference between streaming and daily performances? Your oshi is still there.

>>90470204
How much input do they really have for 'random plastic standee number 34'? There's so much basically shovelware trash coming out all the time, along with 10 million VP's lately, I highly doubt anyone has a lot of say already.

>>90470592
I don't care much about dance routines and music, it's the person behind it that makes me excited and I get to know them through streams and enjoy watching them play games.

>>90470570
More than Biboo yapping for 40+ hours on stream every week? Sure it's more intense but it's also shorter.

>>90470052
a lot of them just do those mandatory ones. maybe even the majority? if that's too much still then they should definitely leave but that has been the norm since 2nd fes

>>90470697
What nonsense is this? Are karaokes not streams?

>>90470614
It doesn't even need to be detailed design brainstorms, they talked about how they went to the studio to check the ruffian prototypes, and throw them around a bit.
It's actually very thoughtful of Cover to operate like this and not go ahead without the talent's explicit OK on the prototypes, but that's a procedure they adopted when they were far smaller than they are, with far less frequent merch than they have now.
Meetings where nothing in particular gets done other than them saying "un un" to approve of the obvious decisions being made still take time that they don't have.

>>90470703
First of all, every body is different. Secondly singing strains your voice a lot more than talking. FUWAMOCO have already shown that they are not built like Koyori or Biboo.

>>90470741
You mean the thing that was put down for multiple months straight? It's not like I'm saying that they shouldn't ever do it or enjoy focusing on it, it's just that the thing that draws me in is their personality and the games they play. If they don't play what I want to watch, I watch less and therefore am attached less.

>>90470820
You want streamers who stream games. Great. Go watch Kaela or Biboo. There are chuubas who just sing and zatsu. Raden barely play any games.

>>90470893
Tell me when Kaela or Biboo stream VN or retro games.

>>90470893
FWMC stream a lot of games, anon, you're going on a weird hypothetical rant.

>>90470954
>>90470965
Careful, you're going to make him mad and he will start screeching "TWITCH WHORES!"

>>90471054
Keep me out of your faggot loops, thank you.

Things FWMC can do:
>be cute
>be sexy
>show off deep knowledge of idols, VNs, and classic anime
>sing
>dance

Things FWMC can't do:
>sing and dance twice a week (on stream) for 1 hour at a time (allegedly, even if perms weren't a concern)
>talk about their personal lives (they spend every waking second working)
>talk about anime
>talk about eroge
>git gud at vidya
>say no to management
>play a game all week and just finish it

Did I miss anything?

Their rock and rawr are infinitely superior to VN streams.

>>90471271
You forgot "stay off Twitter" and "balance their own health"

>>90471333
Better than all retro games streams too.

>>90471271
mococo beat stage 3 in holocure
>>90471333
i would rather watch sc readings than them slogging through fate since i already played it. they should at least get back to white album

>>90471333
False. Plenty of Holos do karaokes. Their VN streams are great, even more so because they don't play shit VNs like DDLC.

>>90471451
>mococo beat stage 3 in holocure
I don't think that's a particularly high bar Ruffian...

>>90471451
I've already played White Album. I'd rather see them play Fate.

Manifesting no supa readings today, they really shouldn't waste their voices when they're about to have a con karaoke a few hours later.

>>90471466
>Their VN streams are great
Those are numberpoison and won't help them get a sololive. Their time is limited and they are better off playing games that get more eyeballs on them.

>>90471726
Like Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.

>>90471810
Michael Jackson. Kevin Lamar. Whatever works.

>>90471725
The KY stream might still be cancelled because they will scream during it.

>>90471726
If they want a sololive they need to get more orisongs out more than they need gaymen streams retard.

>>90471333
FWMC love VNs. If you don't like their VN streams you should slit your own throat.

They should play this.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1114950/Learn_Japanese_RPG_Hiragana_Forbidden_Speech/

They should play The Maiden Rape Assault - Violent Semen Inferno.

>>90471902
Okayu had 2 orisongs when she announced her sololive. Pekora had 1. They need numbers.

>>90471865
I actually feel like Michael Jackson (or any western pop oldies that will resonate with lonely ojisan) can have a more lasting effect for their channel. Modern rap goes viral but it's a parallel fanbase. The people who know them for those AI covers are not buying sololive tickets when the time comes.

They should do a stream where they compete to see who makes the Ruffians cum more times.

Been feeling lonely lately. Even when watching streams, or hanging with friends. Think I need to try and get out of my comfort zone and try speaking to women/finding a gf.

>>90472080
FWMC don't think that people wouldn't enjoy them being bad at popular FOTM games or singing silly songs like Where the Hood At. How can we get numbers unless we go where the mass appeal is?

>>90472152
Isn't that what ERB usually sings? It doesn't seem to help her much at all.

>>90472080
1, for real? Was the majority of her concert covers?

>>90472199
Disgusting womanspeaker.

>>90472519
She released an album to go with the concert. Same with okayu.

>>90472353
Sloppy blowjob twin ASMR stream

>>90472353
but those activities don't reflect who they are.

>>90472509
Fair.

>>90472353
They should just bite the bullet and spam FOTM/rap shit for a year or two. Once they check off some of their goals that require big noombas, they can go back to streaming VNs or whatever.

>>90472936
Please no the million man march was enough

They're gonna have three orisongs in 2025 and all of them will blow up. A J-POP duo song with a catchy choreography that requires two people to get the tiktok thots replicating with a friend, a solo Fuwawa ballad and a solo Mocojazz.
5 gorillion views on each.

>>90473130
They will become the next BabyMetal when they do a metal song.

>>90473481
NOT MOCOBABY METAL, OKAEY

>>90471333
Irrefutable.

Do you think they're cry talking about it today?

>>90474225
No.

>>90474225
They would cry about marine or polka, miko and fubs too probably, but not about Chloe

>>90474628
chloe is the only member of holojp they have a song with

>>90474225
They probably cried judging from that tweet, but not for Chloe.

>>90474839
Does the 3D song performance with okakoro count?

>>90475074
nah live performances and released covers are different things

>>90475211
It's still above simple karaoke though, and you know that they hold the chance they had to sing with Aqua very dear to them
Same reason they most likely picked a group song with Ame in BD, because they knew doing a cover would be impossible due time

I don't want to see the game before FWMC's stream, let me know if Biboo mention anything about her move and/or seeing FWMC, pebblebros.

>>90475382
yes it's more than karaoke but less than a song release. fwmc only have a handful of those to begin with, so chloe is special to them in a particular way that no other holojp is yet. also its lucky that she is only affiliating or that song would cease to exist, since its on her channel

>>90467277
does official fuwatummy mean that mococo is useless now?

>>90475711
>or that song would cease to exist, since its on her channel
No it wouldn't, channels only get wiped when they get terminated
You can still access everything except member streams from all the properly graduated members, maybe even those if they made them public for some reason but I never cared to check that

Do you think one day they'll collab with Mikeneko

>>90475877
They can barely collab outside of Advent at all. Too much time doing homework.

>>90475729
I'll always love Moco-chan! I want to hug her and cuddle her until she falls asleep

>>90475729
She isn't useless, she is my cute little princess

>>90476043
I want a Luna collab. Kayfabe kino

>>90461898
i see aqua art all the time

>>90462329
>the most departures in a year ever
that was 2020 by far given you know

>>90477097
Chinks do not count.

>I care about talents unless I think they are representing Cover or they are Chinese

>>90476952
Sexy battle between Luna and Mococo

>>90477650
Chinks literally don't count. They were never actually part of Hololive, they were just a bunch of antis larping.

>>90477674
Actual kino 3D stream idea. Who will be the other judge with Fuwawa?

>>90477909
Biboo

>>90477977
KINOEH

biboo moved to japan

>>90478161
Hope she can force FWMC to live a little more.

Biboo is living in Japan now. Staying in a hotel before moving into permanent housing soon.

>>90478436
no, biboo will homework now as much as fwmc

>>90478531
If they can do some of it together that's nice too.

>>90478161
Perfect

goddamn this child is erotic

>FWMC could have just asked Cover for a house and a PC instead of living in a cardboard box where they're not allowed to talk loudly
sasuga retarder dogs

ENTER

Momseki cried seeing Biboo off...

>(The door is unlocked)
Got it

KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

fuwamoco corrupted her... the poor pebbles don't know how bad this is about to get

ENTER
FUWAMOCO

>>90478858
KEK

>>90478858
reported you to the police

>>90477650
The Chinese branch literally turned on Hololive.

>>90478858
KEK

>(the door is unlocked)
Fuwawa is dreaming of the Ruffian yobai but it hasn't happened

How long before Biboo gets homesick?

>>90478778
their house needs to be for twins, you fucking idiot

>>90478986
just fly back and visit bro lol

Biboo already bought so much stuff, it's going to look like a home so much faster than FWMC...

>>90479091
twins can share the bathroom and bedroom

>>90478778
They're extremely retarded, you should know this by now. It was clear when all of Advent had better accommodations than they did during the fes prep months. It's offered by cover as a part of the contract and they instead insisted on finding their own spot because they didn't want to inconvenience anyone

>>90479091
The hell does that even mean? They shared a single bed and had to beg the landlord to let them rent the cardboard box together because it was for a single person. There is no world where what Biboo has would be worse for them.

>>90479243
yeah but they didn't get to show off to everyone how familiar they are with Japan and how independent they are! They saved management and cover from having to provide a service they're legally required to and they were desperate for management favor

>>90479341
You have anger issues.

Bijou is in danger from all the ojisans on her own please protect her FuwaMoco

>not yes
she's already becoming ESL...

>>90479478
I am the ojiisan now

>>90479478
I think Biboo would actually like getting gangbanged and bred by a bunch of ikemen in her room

Oh the stream is an hour later than usual. Back to sleep

>>90479478
Fuwawa will make sure she's very well protected

>>90479630
Make some space, I'm taking a nap too.

>biboo streaming everyday right after landing in japan
What the fuck

>>90479713
She said no schedule and short streams for 2 weeks, this one is a little over an hour long. Still very good, which just means there was no reason to lie.

oh no, biboo said nuts
hamtaro sponsorship is over

>>90478161
Wasn't she going to move next year?

>>90479607
Those ikemen? All me.

>>90479840
She was just trying to dodge Bryan

She doesn't have bowls.
She got everything else from the Nintendo store but she doesn't have bowls.

>>90479975
Ah shit here we go again

Biboo is homeless right now, Mococo will take Biboo to keep.

>>90480628
4p with ojisan ruffian

Kuukiyomi kinda sucks

>>90480775
1-2 were okay but they really ran out of ideas

>>90480628
she is more likely to end up with Bae than FWMC if she needs someplace to crash (assuming she's not sick)

>>90480814
Isn't she going to live with Raora? Raora already hosted kobo.

>>90480814
I'm not sure Biboo would be okay with all the different men Bae brings home every night

>>90480814
Oh great baeschizo is here again.

>>90480914
ina...

>>90480814
Raora already offered to let Biboo stay, so did Mori

sex with fuwawa

Sex with Mococo