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>> No.9028557

>>9028501
Who made the most for the month of August?

>> No.9028558

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>> No.9028606

>>9028501
can someone tell me what roberto and sakuraritsuki did

>> No.9028607
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home sweet home

>> No.9028637

>>9028501
>9
Why is he there?

>> No.9028672

>>9028606
>roberto
this >>9027821

>> No.9028688

>>9028637
He became female

>> No.9028697

>>9028557
Monthly rankings go up in a few hours but I'm 99% sure it was Rushia
>>9028606
Roberu 200k celebration, Ritsuki anniversary

>> No.9029072

Rosemi's numbers might be low, but she has a dedicated fanbase that will watch no matter what she's doing. Someone made the comparison with holostars last thread, but she's getting way more viewers than Roberu did playing the same game.

>> No.9029085

Aoi? Damn now there's an old Vtuber.

>> No.9029123

I NEED those juicy month OF August statistics!!!

>> No.9029162

>>9029072
Don't care about your 2view. Post some numbers instead

>> No.9029276

>>9028697
1st Rushia, 2nd kson, 3rd Lamy.

>> No.9029318

>>9029162
I can't post pics but here: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/RizsiuCXoT0
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/OjmkH2tbFZc
She's currently getting 1,2k which is way more than what the most popular shart did playing the same thing (and Rosemi is the least popular NijiEN), so they are not quite on the same tier like what some posters implied.

>> No.9029599

>>9029162
what a rude fag

>> No.9029701

>>9029085
yeah but she's also pure sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTjsxATDZQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyZ8nogT0Dc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_O9fweX8Ng

>> No.9029921
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summer buff... HoloEN fans are cicadas too...

>> No.9030805

>>9029318
More comparison's: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/FCZOmuhAO8I
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/YCqND2bjtGk
It looks like Rosemi's viewership is similar to Anya's and the shart is less popular than both of them, so another loss for the holosharts fans.

>> No.9030941

>>9029921
She is up over 6k which is her very solid base viewership. I'm actually really surprised how solid IRyS has been. She seems to have cultivated a, while not huge, very very loyal fanbase.

>> No.9031008

>>9029921
She literally just started when you took that picture, she's at 6.3k right now
>9029318
>9030805
Back at it again with the yoir obsession with midget fighting, I see

>> No.9031021

>>9030941
She going going to get 5k+ no matter what she do. Good for her.

>> No.9031052

>>9031008
>holostars inclining bro, they are on the same tier as nijiEN, trust me
You got EXPOSED, shartoid. Cope.

>> No.9031077

>>9031021
She had like 4k people watching her read SC at 3am EST after a stream, 3-4k will probably watch her no matter what she does.

>> No.9031155

>>9031021
I think she could incline quite a bit if she gets a model update. She is super charming, super engaged with chat always talking and banting with them, no dead air, sassy without crossing the line into bitch, and obviously a great singer. I think she is one of the best hires that Cover has ever made and its a shame they debuffed her so much with that model. While I've grown to appreciate it I understand why it filters some people.

>> No.9031189

>There's more people waiting for a premier than watching any stream right now.

>> No.9031266

>>9031155
Agree, Imagine if she the one that got the rat avatar.

>> No.9031316

>>9031052
>resorting to comparing NijiEN with Holostars because he knows NijiEN gets absolutely BTFO by HoloEN
The absolute state of Nijiniggers
Not my fault that Council quickly managed to beat both gens of NijiEN in sub growth AND live viewers
Even Sana with her slashed subs gets more views than Selen

>> No.9031388

>>9031189
who's premier?

>> No.9031392

>>9029318
>>9030805
>>9031052
Why are you so concerned about making Rosemi look better than other ~1k ccv VTubers? The difference in viewers is fairly small. If anything, NijiEN and Holostars should collab and trade viewers. It benefits Holostars more of course
>>9031189
Nothing good is on right now

>> No.9031414

>>9031316
I wasn't the one who made the comparison. It was a shartoid in the previous thread. Holosharts is such a failure that their most popular member is less popular than the least popular nijiEN. They'll never be fit to even lick Kuzuha's shoes.

>> No.9031443

>>9031388
mori and goorah cover

>> No.9031467

>>9031189
I'm one of IRyS' 6.3k viewers, though?

>> No.9031481

https://youtu.be/qNIhngowViI
20 more minutes

>> No.9031502

>>9031443
jesas 11k.. irys don't look

>> No.9031534

>>9031481
How many will attend? Start yer bets

>> No.9031595

>>9031534
around 27 to 30k

>> No.9031634

>>9031481
This is going to blow up and usher in the 2nd age of KING. We are going to start getting tons of KING cover again, lol.

>> No.9031663
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>>9031481
>the only rapping-dedicated Holo and one of the best singers in the company finally decide to collab on a song
>they waste their vocals on KING

>> No.9031688

>>9031663
Yes, it's well known that Holos can only ever collab together on a song once.

>> No.9031717

>>9031634
This was probably recorded in like, February.

>> No.9031741

>>9031634
I don't think there's enough gas for that. The next Holo KING cover would take at least 2 months.

>> No.9031783

>>9031717
Mori said she recorded this two months ago, but Gura approached her over it back when King covers were in vogue.

>> No.9031960

>>9031481
Will they both do their own solo versions that isn't karaoke?
>>9031414
Thats a given. Watch Holos for girls, watch Niji for dudes. Isn't NijiEN supposedly getting a guy soon?

>> No.9032018

>>9031688
So there's a chance we can get another Cali/Suisei song? Please...

>> No.9032030

Lamy and IRyS are performing better than their previous numbers, and dominating this hour, but Gura + Mori cover has more numbers than both of them combined...

>> No.9032043

>>9031688
I'm just saying that there's plenty of better songs out there they could've covered instead of KING

>> No.9032157

>>9032030
It's on Gura's channel so the Gura-only fans took note and showed up, plus all the Holo fans that don't necessarily watch IRyS having nothing else to do, and the Mori fans that came by to check it out as well.

>> No.9032191

>>9031481
Place your bets
How long will it take this cover to reach 1 million? Will it beat Mori's Roki's record?

>> No.9032299

>>9032191
12-14 hours because of the obligatory 3-4 hour freeze around 400k, and yes.

>> No.9032317

>>9031960
Wave 4 is the male wave. Probably around December/January.

>> No.9032383

>>9032191
It will.
It probably will be slower than REFLECT but has better retention rate due to cover song only exists on YT ( No Spotify, iTune, CD...)

>> No.9032466

17k
I was expecting more

>> No.9032534

>>9032466
I see ~20k

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>>9032466
Taken right before the countdown started. I hate this new countdown by the way.

>> No.9032621

>>9032466
22k waiting is what I got before the premiere started.

>> No.9032668

>>9032534
>premier starts
>drops to 7k
nice code youtube

>> No.9032686

Since when the fuck did they change the premiere countdown?
I mean, it's better but when?

>> No.9032701

>>9032466
reclining...

>> No.9032754

>>9032686
this shit is trippy wdym better?

>> No.9032763

>>9032617
Back to 17k sasuga Susan. I did not notice this extreme of a drop when Uiha premiered her meme song.

>> No.9032885

I dont think the initial explosion will be as big as reflect since that was pushed by her birthday. But i think it will have longer legs because it is a meme song at this point.

>> No.9033062

28k.
I forgot how shirt this song is

>> No.9033084
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9033084

29k peak

>> No.9033246

>>9033062
*short

>> No.9033255

>>9033084
Cursed night got 36K before the end, so does not really matter

>> No.9033289
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9033289

Good numbers for an overdone song. Didn't beat Turing Love premiere though, was expecting it to. However, that song was teased for more days than duo King.

>> No.9033293

>>9033062
*shit

>> No.9033318

>>9033084
If this doesn't prove that most of Gura's regular viewers are Chumbots, I don't know what will

>> No.9033586

>under 30k watching live
>over 30k views right at the end
S-susan...

>> No.9033826

REFLECT:
250K- 43 min
500K-~140 min (views froze)
1M- 10 hrs 29 min

>> No.9033835
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9033835

All these ad plasters makes me wonder how aggressive is Hololive's advertisement for shows?
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1432901254775296001

>> No.9033841

>>9033586
vod queue is slower so prepare to see it jump after 1-2hrs to 200k or more.

>> No.9033883

>>9033835
gonna sit there and jerk off

>> No.9033929

>>9033835
looks photosoped in high res for some reason

>> No.9033950

>>9033841
it will probably get frozen at some point

>> No.9033982

_Noel_'s KING cover is better

>> No.9034047

>>9033982
i like Kiara's

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9034166

https://pastebin.com/n8shzU2a
Only restores/removals today are from haachama

>> No.9034256

>Maybe we can make Honey single again

Here we go

>> No.9034429

Degree of auto tune 1-10
What should GuraMori KING cover be placed ?

>> No.9034502

>gura trending again on witter
for fuck sake

>> No.9035002

>>9034429
>degree of autotune
One, maybe even a zero
Chiaki Natsume is actually one of the better mixers out there, managed to make both Mori's and Gura's voices sound natural as compared to their previous covers
Check out Suisei's Cry Baby, Chigusa's Gunjou, Deathstar's Getcha!, and Chronoir's Outsider for other examples of their mixing

>> No.9035021

>>9034429
It isn't that bad.

>> No.9035328

>>9035021
Cause people argue that many covers are AutoKING (Goodbye Sengen is Goodbye natural voice)

>> No.9035820

>>9033826
> 93K at 43 mins.

It's a good number, guaranteed 1M before the end of the week, and it will top the weekly list unless there a bigger song coming up tomorrow.

>> No.9035928

The likes are already catching up with the views. Probably getting verified again.

>> No.9035949

>>9034166
oh, i'm so glad this one's back

>> No.9035980

>>9035928
>66k likes
>100k views
is gonna jump in the next hours
either that or gura has a 60% engagmenet rate.

>> No.9036018

>100k in 50 minutes
Nice start

>> No.9036092

>>9035820
It's gonna jump once the JP fanbase gets back from work.
Might get frozen as well as a result.

>> No.9036119

>>9035820
Yeah, it's doing really well in the first hour. It was announced pretty late, so I think JOPs were caught off guard a bit. I expect it will gain even more traction throughout the rest of the JST day

>> No.9036149

>>9035820
>guaranteed 1M before the end of the wee
Unless it gets 1 mil in 2 days, it's a bit of a disappointment imo. I don't think we'll ever see a Reflect situation again tho.

>> No.9036223

>>9028501
hell yeah numbers thread check my fucking digits

>> No.9036819

>>9034502
Twitter trends are only a big deal if they manage to be the top trending in the entire country.
Saying X is trending means nothing because the trends bar to the right is highly curated based on the user.

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>>9036819
I wish there was some bot that updated vtuber trends that hit countrywide. For instance this is a snapshot of Fuwa's thing.

>> No.9037049

>>9036961
gura has 27k tweets

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9037152

that's a pretty insane views to likes ratio

>> No.9037224

>>9036819
Hmm, it said that Gura was trending in the US for me though

>> No.9037226

>>9037152
sounds like the algorithm hasn't set in

>> No.9037445
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>>9037224
I checked myself. I had to change my region to US just to check but sure enough its at 26.
Not really worth numberfagging about but its there.

>> No.9037495

>>9037445
It's been a while so it might have dropped a few spots since it premiered

>> No.9037498

>>9037049
>>9037445
Still interesting numbers.

>> No.9038476

>127k views vs 90k likes
What is this shit

>> No.9038646

>>9038476
It's called the "Youtube Special".
Views that come in 'too quick' are marked and verified before being added.

>> No.9038752

Chumbuds should stop the loop, yt bot is having stroke

>> No.9038818
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9038818

>>9037049
Fuwa's ended at ~74k

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9038891

>>9034166
https://pastebin.com/B3JcbNBv
A nice by-product of tracking views for video removals is seeing daily view removals

>> No.9038938

>clock and rat in the same channel
>not even 20k
Is debut buff for them over already?

>> No.9038950

>>9038891
Useful tool, and that's impressive

>> No.9039417

>>9038938
it is also portal
that shit alwasy does horrible numberwise.

>> No.9039707
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9039707

Youtube is probably buggy right now, but 150k views to 99k likes is pretty fucking funny.

2/3rds of the people who have played this video decided to actively "like" the song. It's an absurd views to like ratio.

>> No.9039799

>>9039707
It already has over half the likes of Unison which is just absurd for something that supposedly only has 150k views.

>> No.9039908

>12.4m a month WITHOUT Cover cut
Damn

>> No.9040010

Gura Ina Portal 2 collab ( 2020/11/28 9 pm EST)
Gura 29,864 / 33,152
Ina 18,380 / 20,202
p.s. pre-bug

>> No.9040031

still no August SC rank?

>> No.9040059

Sub 20k collab with Kronii with only one POV is way lower than I expected. Is Baelz channel a debuff? It's giving remnants of Kiara.

>> No.9040076
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9040076

>>9039707
Youtube VOd views are infintely more slowers thant the live streaming ones.
So high viewrship videos takes around 1-2hours to get most of the views it gather. is part of the reason why you see live streams end with like 30k if they are short streams but with high ccv.

They will recover it in the next hours as you can see here the views are starting to dequeue. 3-5k every 5minutes

>> No.9040078

>>9040031
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

>> No.9040080

>>9040031
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-monthly

>> No.9040154

>>9040059
Nah it is poral.
that shit eats views.

>> No.9040157

>>9039908
???

>> No.9040166

Jwu Gura drops this earlier than I thought, should have put the premiere on a longer countdown so people can catch up.

>> No.9040210

>>9040157
most likely talking about that camwhore

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EN superchat.

>> No.9040451

>>9040210
Kson getting 2nd on August is something else, even buff lamy can't beat her. Also, iirc lauren and leos opened their monetization this month right? So they gets like around 40k thru normal stream this month.

>>9040345
Irys shaping up to be the next superchatted EN user. She almost always does readings after streams.

>> No.9040466

>>9040345
Is this for the month?

I know it's silly to count other people's money, but it annoys me when Ame and Gura say stuff like "Meh I'm too lazy to turn on SC" or "No I'm not turning SC on, stop begging for it".
It's important for numberfagging purposes, damnit!

>> No.9040538

>>9040345
One of Mori's lowest month(Stream frequency is low)
Gura streamed less in the beginning of Agust

>> No.9040540

>>9040345
Why's Petra so low?

>> No.9040575

>>9040345
Elira... hope her internet/technical problems are actually over and she does better this month

>> No.9040625

>>9040010
Oct/Nov 2020 was the biggest boom in EN vtubing so comparing numbers against that time is a bit unfair.
Gura was getting 60k playing minecraft and all the Holo girls were getting 20k-70k in that HoloEN x HoloJP Among Us collab.

These current numbers are a bit disappointing tho considering Kronii can probably get 20k solo.

>> No.9040652

>>9040540
no one watches her.
Rosemi appeals to the GFE and pomu is dying.

>> No.9040666

>>9040451
>Irys shaping up to be the next superchatted EN user. She almost always does readings after streams.
She literally is "HoloJP (EN dub)". Living in Japan and not being completely retarded, she gives the CGDCT experience to weebs for EOP that can't into subs.

>> No.9040885

>>9040625
So 16k for one POV. If it was split view, Kronii takes 10k and rat takes 6k?

>> No.9041071

>>9040540
She got 100k subs earlier than other two.

>> No.9041150

>>9040540
Who?

>> No.9041178

>>9040076
>from 188k to 200k
what a joke of a site

>> No.9042004

KING gains more views in the third hour than the second hour(without any frozen situation). JP lunch time really affects.

>> No.9042010

Validated views are piling in for the cover now, it's getting about 20k added every 5 minutes.

>> No.9042033

>>9040451
She was coco so she should be

>> No.9042370

>>9040885
Nah you have to estimate that there's a number of viewers who don't check schedules at all or just forget about it so they don't tune in for a collab that's not on the vtubers channel. Id say the numbers would be more like Kronii at 15k while Baelz would be 8k. It should also be noted that they often have a different timeslot from each other so their viewership don't completely overlap. Its just like how Gura can go over 10k most of the time but if she was present only in say Kiara's stream, Kiara would go over her usual number but not really reach Gura's usual.

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3 hours in

>> No.9042495

>>9042415
>stairs instead of a curve
susan...
i expect it to freeze soon too

>> No.9042643

>>9042415
>327k now
Jesus christ Susan

>> No.9042776

05:51:00 276273
05:56:00 291653
06:01:00 308020
06:06:00 326386

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Niji summer buff July and August.

>> No.9042932

>>9042415
Susan, please fix your fucking site

>> No.9043150

Sana
>20 min in
>6.4k
already high peak then yesterday.
looks like that time slot was cursed

>> No.9043168

>>9042827
Roa... come back...

>> No.9043178

Now 360k. What's the record to 1 million again?

>> No.9043221

>>9043178
REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 10 hours
UNISON (Houshou Marine) - 39 hours
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 45 hours
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2 Days (17h 0m)
Can You Do the Hololive? (All members) - 3 Days
Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 3 Days
GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4 Days (1h 45m)
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5 Days
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 5 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 5 Days
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5 Days
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6 Days
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 6 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6 Days (18h 37m)
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8 Days (17h 6m)
Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8 days (18h 0m)
Violet (Ninomae Ina'nis) - 9 Days (13h 40m)
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9 Days (13h 54m)
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 10 Days
Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 10 days
Turing Love (Moona and Pekora - 10 Days (0h 24m)
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10 Days (3h 37m)
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 11 Days
Envy Baby (Mori Calliope) - 11 Days (21h 3m)
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 13 Days
Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 13 Days
Cry Baby (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 13 Days (1h 10m)
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14 Days
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 15 Days
Take Me Home, Country Roads (HoloEN) - 15 Days
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 15 Days
Odo (Murasaki Shion) - 15 Days (14h 11m)
Shitsuraku Petri (Nekomata Okayu) - 16 Days
Shoujo Rei (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 16 Days (2h 21m)
Hana ni Bourei (Nakiri Ayame) - 16 Days (2h 37m)
KING (Pavolia Reine) - 17 Days
Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17 Days (0h 14m)
KING (Murasaki Shion) - 19 Days
Envy Baby (Omaru Polka) - 19 Days
Usseewa (Murasaki Shion) - 20 Days
VILLAIN (Moona Hoshinova) - 20 Days
Aikotoba III (Kiara and Gura) - 21 Days
FLOS (Nekomata Okayu) - 21 Days
Ranbu no Melody (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 21 Days
RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 23 Days
HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23 Days
p.h. (Nekomata Okayu) - 24 Days (19h 25m)
SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24 Days (19h 49m)
Alice in N.Y (Sora, Kanata, Suisei, Marine, Flare) - 28 Days
Vampire (Omaru Polka) - 28 Days
KING (Tokoyami Towa) - 28 Days
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 29 Days
Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30 Days

Doubt it'll beat Reflect, but it'll absolutely be the fastest cover by far.

>> No.9043258

cover song vs cover song :
Goodbye Sengen - Ayame
250K- 87 min
500K -16 hrs
1M - 63 hrs

>> No.9043287
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9043287

May 2021
>Kiara 113.4 hours
>Amelia 73.5 hours
>Gura 63.1 hours
>Ina 57.3 hours
>Mori 49.6 hours

June 2021
>Kiara 80.7 hours
>Amelia 79.8 hours
>Ina 69.5 hours
>Gura 54.8 hours
>Mori 50.7 hour

July 2021
>Kiara 96.8 hours
>Amelia 84 hours
>Ina 64.6 hours
>Mori 42.2 hours
>Gura 41.2 hours
>Irys 31.1 hours

August 2021
>Kiara 95.3 hours
>Gura 65 hours
>Irys 81.6 hours
>Mori 69 hours
>Gura 65 hours
>Amelia 63.5 hours
>Ina 59.6 hours

>> No.9043324

>>9043221
Should be comfortably in 2nd then, guessing 16-20 hours for 1 mil.

>> No.9043338

>>9042827
Wish we had something like this for the EN girls.

>> No.9043354
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9043354

>>9028697
>>9029276

Kson is doing great. If her new model is finished in September she should easily take the top spot for that month.

>> No.9043373

>>9043287
Lazy asses, same as EN 2. Stream daily you fools, be like Pekora.

>> No.9043396

>>9043354
Very impressive for the 2 from the new Niji gen.

>> No.9043440

>>9043354
no cover cut..

>> No.9043467

KING's views are growing like exponential graph

>> No.9043487

>>9042827
>not a single female above 20k CCV average
>only two of the tier 1 females appear on both lists
>debuting female from tier 1 downgraded to tier 3
Why do Nijifags hate women so much?

>August chart marks Nijis that streamed "too litle" with red
Wel somebody's making sense for once...

>> No.9043713

>>9042827
Good comparison for HoloCouncil in a month since we can see what happened to Edengumi's debut week numbers.

LOL Rin got a 3k boost in median for picking up Koshien.

Rion does a shitton of streams so she barely got a Koshien boost.

Sheesh Ib streamed Minecraft less this month and his median halved, despite still getting 20k+ in MC streams.

>> No.9043936

>>9043713
Rin's numbers are kinda weird coz she streams everyday, it's just half on twitch, like she was streaming powerpro there for all of july but no one gave a fuck until she switched to youtube
https://twitchtracker.com/shizurintv/streams

>> No.9043956

>>9034166
Huh, since when did someone start tracking these in the numbers thread? I kind of wanna catch up to these in particular.
Thank you anon.

>> No.9044118 [DELETED] 

>>9043713
I did a comparison yesterday.

Edengumi debut buff numbers
>debut date July 22nd, July 22 - 30 (JST)
>median (number of streams)

>Leos 25,537 (10)
>Lauren 21,218 (9)
>Lain 18,302 (9)
>Axia 13,586 (11)
>Oliver 9,043 (8)

Holo Council debut numbers
>debut date August 23nd, August 23 - 31 (JST)
>median (number of streams)

>Kronii 33,167 (7)
>Mumei 23,430 (4)
>Fauna 19,249 (7)
>Baelz 16,914 (8)
>Sana 9,848 (7)

>> No.9044206

>>9043373
Pekola lives at home, her mom cooks, cleans and does laundry for her. She is free to dedicate most of her time to streaming and she still can't be the twitch whore.

>> No.9044244

>>9043713
fixed July date

I did a comparison yesterday.

Edengumi debut buff numbers
>debut date July 22nd, July 22 - 31 (JST)
>median (number of streams)

>Leos 25,537 (10)
>Lauren 21,218 (9)
>Lain 18,302 (9)
>Axia 13,586 (11)
>Oliver 9,043 (8)

Holo Council debut numbers
>debut date August 23nd, August 23 - 31 (JST)
>median (number of streams)

>Kronii 33,167 (7)
>Mumei 23,430 (4)
>Fauna 19,249 (7)
>Baelz 16,914 (8)
>Sana 9,848 (7)

>> No.9044287

430K for King now. The number of likes has barely moved for the past ~200k views so there was clearly a huge buffer that is just being slowly added as time goes.

>> No.9044373

>>9044287
>132k likes in just <4 hours
It'd be crazy if reaches 200k likes within 24 hours, this ain't even kpop

>> No.9044539

>>9044118
>Mumei (4)
Not sure it's a fare comparison

>> No.9044562

>>9043287
IRyS is really putting in the work

>> No.9044571

https://youtu.be/IBJzBVens_A

>> No.9044578

>>9042827
my oshi is reclining how do i cope

>> No.9044605

>>9043150
she was against subar AND pekora
and hasnt streamed in that stimeslot yet there was no way it was going to be good even with a horror game.
howver if sana like kusoge so much she playing chilla game would be interesting on this timeslot

>> No.9044717

>>9044287
461k now, it's fun to watch this go up exponentially.

>> No.9044899

might actually break reflect record..

>> No.9044987

>>9044899
If it doesn't get frozen like Reflect did, it's possible.

>> No.9045112

>>9044899
Haven't people said the same about UNISON?

>> No.9045194

>>9044899
It's slowing down. Unless we get another boost in JP prime hours.

>> No.9045310

>>9044899
once the "buffer" is done it will slow down consideralby, so i don't think it will beat reflect, but it can definitely get second place and technically first place for covers

>> No.9045397

>>9044605
>she was against subar AND pekora
only Subaru, Pekora started hour later (enough for almost every stream to peak).
mb im underestimate Subaru, but this wasn't even gaming stream and she was the only opponent for Sana, wich is kinda pathetic if you remember how good Rat holds her ground vs Pekora+Marine+Aqua.
>hasnt streamed in that stimeslot yet
..which is potentially a Good thig because of "novelty".she still has debut buff and this was first opportunity for a lot of people to check her live.

>> No.9045487

>>9042827
It's funny you say summer buff when there are FAR more declines, big or small, from July to August. Ignoring Edengumi.

>> No.9045514

>>9045397
rat had already streamed on that timeslots to Jops and use enough japanese on her streams. Sana isnt, it was just Aussie hours for her.

>> No.9045630

>>9045397
>mb im underestimate Subaru, but this wasn't even gaming stream
You’re underestimating, she pulled 30k by just talking. She pulled every JOP watching Holos in that slot

>> No.9045641

>>9044717
just hit 500k...

>> No.9045722

August superchat rankings
Hololive
>1. Uruha Rushia - $125,814
>2. Yukihana Lamy - $109,094
>3. Momosuzu Nene - $71,064
>4. Minato Aqua - $64,224
>5. Shiranui Flare - $63,116
>6. Amane Kanata - $58,792
>7. Houshou Marine - $54,608
>8. Usada Pekora - $54,366
>9. Sakura Miko - $49,726
>10. Shirogane Noel - $49,693
>11. Mori Calliope - $49,289
>12. Takanashi Kiara - $43,319
>13. Murasaki Shion - $43,040
>14. Akai Haato - $41,239
>15. Tokoyami Towa - $40,190
>16. Shishiro Botan - $37,307
>17. Inugami Korone - $36,902
>18. Gawr Gura - $36,854
>19. Ookami Mio - $36,317
>20. IRyS - $34,192
>21. Tsunomaki Watame - $31,032
>22. Oozora Subaru - $30,049
>23. Omaru Polka - $29,759
>24. Nekomata Okayu - $29,279
>25. Shirakami Fubuki - $26,756
>26. Watson Amelia - $21,933
>27. Hoshimachi Suisei - $21,693
>28. Ninomae Ina'nis - $19,984
>29. Himemori Luna - $17,954
>30. Natsuiro Matsuri - $17,209
>31. Aki Rosenthal - $14,595
>32. Nakiri Ayame - $11,146
>33. Kureiji Ollie - $10,039
>34. Tokino Sora - $7,634
>35. Pavolia Reine - $7,046
>36. Roboco - $5,259
>37. Anya Melfissa - $5,139
>38. Moona Hoshinova - $4,257
>39. Airani Iofifteen - $3,785
>40. Yuzuki Choco - $3,625
>41. Yozora Mel - $3,530
>42. Ayunda Risu - $1,585
>43. AZKi - $844

>> No.9045736

>>9042827
Don't know why Kanda is always near the bottom, isn't he known as a good talker?

>> No.9045759

>>9045722
Nijisanji
>1. Lauren Iroas - $106,741
>2. Leos Vincent - $88,994
>3. Furen E Lustario - $75,835
>4. Kenmochi Toya - $58,826
>5. Kuzuha - $51,599
>6. Fuwa Minato - $45,602
>7. Axia Krone - $42,263
>8. Kanae - $40,686
>9. Kaida Haru - $39,875
>10. Oliver Evans - $37,247
>11. Yuuki Chihiro - $36,274
>12. Kagami Hayato - $31,222
>13. Lain Paterson - $31,192
>14. Ibrahim - $25,756
>15. Saegusa Akina - $24,703
>16. Selen Tatsuki - $19,253
>17. Hoshikawa Sara - $18,192
>18. Joe Rikiichi - $17,931
>19. Amamiya Kokoro - $15,237
>20. Rosemi Lovelock - $15,026
>21. Shirayuki Tomoe - $14,634
>22. Ratna Petit - $14,621
>23. Ex Albio - $14,419
>24. Pomu Rainpuff - $13,969
>25. Suzuki Masaru - $13,881
>26. Shiina Yuika - $13,851
>27. Finana Ryugu - $13,181
>28. Honma Himawari - $12,470
>29. Higuchi Kaede - $12,334
>30. Dola - $12,163
>31. Elira Pendora - $11,415
>32. Sakura Ritsuki - $11,270
>33. Levi Elipha - $11,228
>34. Nagao Kei - $11,029
>35. Sakuyui - $11,003
>36. Takamiya Rion - $10,610
>37. Machita Chima - $9,683
>38. Akabane Youko - $9,376
>39. Petra Gurin - $9,118
>40. Belmond Banderas - $9,100
>41. Kitakoji Hisui - $9,081
>42. Suo Sango - $8,879
>43. Tsukino Mito -$8,877
>44. Yorumi Rena - $8,875
>45. Yumeoi Kakeru - $8,740
>46. Hakase Fuyuki - $8,586
>47. Nijisanji - $8,563
>48. Hanabatake Chaika - $8,210
>49. Onomachi Haruka - $7,728
>50. Debidebi Debiru - $7,642

>> No.9045780

>>9045759
Indie/Other
>1. Ikinone Tomeru (Sinsogumi) - $26,989
>2. Maaru (Independent) - $22,798
>3. QuonTama (GuildQC) - $22, 479
>4. Oma Kirara (Noripro) - $21,985
>5. Suou Patra (HoneyStrap/774) - $21,536
>6. Rumi (Independent) - $21,022
>7. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $20,620
>8. Shirayuki Reid (Independent) - $20,163
>9. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $17,620
>10. Siro (.LIVE) - $17,222
>11. Shibuya Hal (Independent) - $16,993
>12. Shirayuki Mishiro (Noripro) - $15,370
>13. Fuji Aoi (Universal Music Japan) - $14,224
>14. Amano Pikamee (VOMS) - $13,992
>15. Asano Sisters (Independent) - $13,958
>16. Tenshi Nano (Masquerade) - $13,906
>17. Hashiba Natsumi (Animare/774) - $13,875
>18. Nekoda Pepero (Masquerade) - $13,660
>19. Arurandeisu (Holostars) - $12,843
>20. Shishigaya Flare (Independent) - $10,829
>21. Komori Met (VApArt/774) - $10,608
>22. Ichinose Uruha (VSPO) - $10,544
>23. Natsume Eri (Independent) - $10,395
>24. Nanto Kanaru (Independent) - $10,144
>25. Yumeno Lilith (Noripro) - $10,063
>26. Yukoku Roberu (Holostars) - $10,061
>27. Kohanai Sii (Independent) - $9,852
>28. Inaba Haneru (Animare/774) - $9,697
>29. Tenkai Tsukasa (BANs) - $9,646
>30. Zaki (Independent) - $9,451
>31. Tachibana Hinano (VSPO) - $9,364
>32. Mirutani Nia (Noripro) - $9,359
>33. Astel Leda (Holostars) - $9,150
>34. Kakyoin Chieri (.LIVE) - $9,091
>35. Toba Rana (Yenz Production) - $8,981
>36. Neko Matsuri (Independent) - $8,979
>37. Koinoya Mai (Propro) - $8,657
>38. Gatchman V (Independent) - $7,967
>39. Shishigami Leona (Re:AcT) - $7,963
>40. Hoozuki Warabe (Noripro) - $7,837
>41. Obear (Rescute) - $7,803
>42. Hanakumo Rin (Propro) - $7,792
>43. Amatsuka Lilyel (Independent) - $7,792
>44. Kagura Mea (Independent) - $7,783
>45. Enomiya Milk (Noripro) - $7,509
>46. Nenemaru (Independent) - $7,447
>47. Senba Kurono (Independent) - $7,407
>48. HACHI (Live Union) - $7,019
>49. Harugashumi Milina (Independent) - $6,942
>50. Tabasuko (Mirolive) - $6,986

>> No.9045880

>>9045630
>30k
i know but
>20 pm JST (great time slot)
>only 2 ppl streamed
>Sana was the only person who played som sort of a game
ps i hope you will not argue that holo audience bigger then 36k at 20pm JST

but anyway this is all aftermath,. we ve got numbers and they dont lie.
i just genially amused that she didn't even get her standard 7k during pretty cheesy(arguments there>>9045397) time slot.
moving on!

>> No.9045947

>>9043287
You highlighed EN hours but can we talk about Miko for a minute. Holy shit what an incredible month for her. Significant distance between her and #3 (Gura).

>> No.9045980

>>9045641
In theory it should beat Reflect because you have to go to the youtube video to watch it. With Reflect you could choose to listen to it on other services like Spotify instead of watching it on youtube.

>> No.9046050

>>9045722
Can someone redpill me on gen5? Lamy and Nene (but especially Lamy) don't exist in my bubble. I know they just celebrated their anniversary, but how come they do this much better than the other two? Are they just pure GFE?

>> No.9046078

>>9045947
>Significant distance between her and #3 (Gura).
I mean, she literally streamed double Gura's hours (130 to 65) with similar CCV.
It's those HC minecraft and PSP streams at noon.

>> No.9046099

>>9045780
Redpill me on QuonTama
Why the hell is she so strong in the superchats department?

>> No.9046132

>>9046050
>Are they just pure GFE?
They’re “cute anime girls you feel the urge to cherish and protect”. GFE for Lamy’s case, daughter experience for Nene.

>> No.9046222

>>9045880
>i hope you will not argue that holo audience bigger then 36k at 20pm JST
I’m arguing the opposite, that the audience at that point was about that big, mostly Japanese and that they flocked to Subaru because it was an interesting (and very Japanese) stream.

RatGirl can succeed at that a lot because, even getting some JOP, she actually brought 10k more people for the slot over what usually already watches Hololive, as her streams overlapping with all big hitters of the slot showed

>> No.9046258

>>9046099
Haachama's "sister" and an absolutely AMAZING singer.

>> No.9046264

>>9046132
Ah, I suspected as much. Nihongos really do love their drunken wifes and retarded daugthers, don't they? Good for them.

>> No.9046270

>>9046222
also the main difference between rrat and sana in that slot. RRAT was speaking japanese

>> No.9046272

>>9046099
She had her anniversary and hit 90k this month so it's higher than usual, but she's a really great singer and apparently really popular with the island chinks, her SC is something like 90% NT$, 9% HK$ and 1% JPY

>> No.9046342
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>China has forbidden under-18s from playing games for more than three hours/week
I wonder if this will impact
1) the streaming watching audience, kids watching regular streamers and vtubers to get their gaming fix
2) the Chinese game companies, that will have to target a foreign audience more because their local audience got strangled hard
I’m both cases it might impact vtuber numbers going forward

>> No.9046364

>>9046050
>Nene
The secret is to have SC readings for guaranteed money. This has always been the case. See Rushia, Coco, etc.

>> No.9046365

>>9046270
>RRAT was speaking japanese
Only one time. There was one of the streams she was talking mostly English to a mostly EN chat

>> No.9046442

>>9046342
Every kid uses vpn to talk shit in games and look at porn, it won't affect much

>> No.9046450

>>9046342
>2) the Chinese game companies, that will have to target a foreign audience more because their local audience got strangled hard
Yeah good luck with that buddy, after the honkai impact incident foreign targeting chink mobile game companies are radioactive both within and outside china

>> No.9046456

>>9046222
>Japanese
don't want to argue, but add.
isn't this a good time for ID and Sea audience?

my personal theory that susan fucked up her channel too much and a lot of potential viewers were unaware about her stream.

>> No.9046468

>>9046342
No one cares zhang

>> No.9046524

>>9045780
>Ikinone Tomeru
Who is this chuba and how did she make more than Fubuki or Ibrahim?

>> No.9046538

>>9046342
>1)
So China would forbid under-18s from watching streaming soon.

>> No.9046590

>>9046365
i mean her cooking simulators stream. She was like kaira at debut where she was also speaking plenty of japanese for his viewers but wihtout repeating too much.

>> No.9046603

>>9042827
i got scared when i saw hajime not being last

>> No.9046701

>>9045722
I wonder how much money they could rake in if they did something like Asmongold and had a feature where people could pay to play a video for the chuuber to react to

>> No.9046779

>>9046603
He would have been last if Naru wasn't moping and not streaming much in July. Hajime did well in deboofing himself by dropping Valorant and spamming more League in August which he sucks at.
The Behemoth of the back of the line
The Count of low live counts
The Herald of Hatewatchers
Shibuya Hajime...

>> No.9046883
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>>9043956
I've been tracking them for a few months in nasfaq. Per someones request in there I'm posting the stuff here as well. Mainly out of respect for the fact he compiled a json for me with every niji channel ID so I could track them for him. If you have any requests for anyone you want to track feel free to state them and I'll consider running a 3rd instance for non-holo/nijis. If its more than 3-5 people please provide the list for them in a python dict format which is like pic related if you aren't aware of what that is. Please use appropriate names as well.

If you want to actively watch this shit you can just follow the pastebin user account as I'll try to always update it with updates. The bins might sometimes link to an external bin site since pastebin is fucking gay with "explicit" content now and I'm not aware of any other bin site with accounts.

>> No.9046941

>>9045641
600k now, that's another 100k in less than an hour.

>> No.9046962

>>9045630
>she pulled 30k by just talking
That's kind of misleading. It wasn't just a zatsudan. The catch was "I'll answer ANY questions," which is considerably more eyecatching.

>> No.9047027

>>9046364
It's not that simple. Botan also does superchat readings and doesn't earn near as much as Nene.

>> No.9047247

>>9046883
Yeah I'll just go and follow the pastebin account then. Thanks anon.

>> No.9047280

>>9045722
>Top three are GFE
Not surprised

>> No.9047294

>>9046962
Has she (or her manager) filter questions about Maimoto?

>> No.9047321

>>9047280
>Nene
>GFE
are you an idiot.

>> No.9047370

>>9047321
Yea Nene is wife experience

>> No.9047395

>>9047294
Her newfag viewers don't know who he is

>> No.9047487

>>9046883
>Per someones request in there I'm posting the stuff here as well.
Thanks anon, it's appreciated.

>> No.9047509

>>9046450
>after the honkai impact incident
QRD on this incident? What happened?

>> No.9047633

>>9047509
they gave the overseas their own event and animation of bunny girls and went to kill the devs into the building HQ.

>> No.9047636

>>9043354
The most impressive part about this is that it doesn't count the superchats she got from her 21 mildom streams or her 7 youtube membership-only streams.

>> No.9047643

>>9046099
A great singer unlike those overrated Holowhores (I am looking at you suishit).

>> No.9047688
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9047688

>>9047509
>>9047633
>Genshin Impact developer miHoYo's founders escape assassination attempt over controversial game content in Honkai Impact 3rd
FUCKING KEK, zhanghs can't really win, can they?

>>9047643
In 27 or fewer words, explain why do you hate Hologirls so much.

>> No.9047705

670k in a bit over 6 hours, CalliGula KING is very likely getting 1 mil in less than 24 hours.

It's always funny when shitposters say Gura's declining or all her subs are dead subs, when there's literally no vtuber can get these numbers. Not Pekora, not Kuzuha, not Marine (altho she did get close). Only Mori could, but even then she can't anymore. Maybe it's the scarcity or novelty, but Gura's in a tier of her own when it comes to getting first day MV numbers.

>> No.9047726

>>9047688
technically they did on that case becasue they removed the event form the oversea server and just gave some shitty gems.
Just another lesson to not invest in chink games.

>> No.9047738

>>9047705
Its guarenteed 1 mil in 24 hours. The question now is can it beat Reflect to one million. Can it get 300k views in 4 hours? I'm thinking yes, its going to beat Reflect.

>> No.9047801
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9047801

Irys surely found her footing on around 7k viewers for her regular streams, and 12k for her karaoke.
Very very good for EN AZKi, won't put her in the top brass of Holo (including JP) but a solid midtier.

>> No.9047826

>>9047801
If you can maintain a fanbase over 5k, Playing anything, You're good.

>> No.9047887

>>9047705
It's actually speeding up now, somehow.

>> No.9047928

>>9047887
JP primetime

>> No.9047966

>>9047705
at this point its probably fair to say gura is essentially a mascot character since even if her live views aren't the top with how well known she is whenever she does an event its guaranteed to get big numbers

>> No.9047982

>>9047928
It's also almost 6AM in the east coast of the US, people are waking up and catching up with their content fix

>> No.9047984

>>9047705
>It's always funny when shitposters say Gura's declining or all her subs are dead subs
It's just a cope for those who are still seething at her subs, they prove it using CCV only which is kinda dumb cuz it just shows how many people sitting at one place at the same time.

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pekor...

>> No.9048132

>>9047984
VOD views are meaningless. Unless all the chumbuds have Youtube Prime (they don't) Gura gets nothing for it.

>> No.9048187

>>9048050
First time Kuzuha actually has less hours streamed than Pekora, but having a 10k+ CCV would make up the difference. Insane month from him.
However, I don't know where you're getting any indication that it was a bad month from Pekora.

>> No.9048190

>>9048050
Gonna have to take a deeeep knee to Miko, she ground her way to page one of this list.

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King collab update

>> No.9048206

>>9048050
People will casually just ignore the Johnny and Koshien buff and act like this is normal, yawn.

>> No.9048225

>>9048202
Its going to beat Reflect to 1 million. Insane.

>> No.9048226

>>9048202
>5 hours to go for 300k
Oh my lord, I didn't think the REFLECT record would be broken.

>> No.9048239

>>9048132
>VOD views are meaningless.
Even ignoring how fucking stupid this statement is, Gura has 17k+ members. She's not struggling for cash any time soon.

>> No.9048253

>>9048202
Absolute rocket ship. It seems beating the Reflect record is almost guaranteed unless YouTube pauses the count.

>> No.9048269

>>9048132
I don't get your point, are you saying VOD views is useless because it can't generate money? Is it any different from CCV?

>> No.9048273

>>9048206
It's only Kuzushitposters. There's like only 3-4 of them anyways so stop giving them attention. Kuzuha had a very good month and that's a fact, even if it was a special month for him.

>> No.9048279
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>>9048050
>>9048187
Here is teh side by side, July-August
>Jun overtook stylishnoob
>rtainjapan out of nowhere
>Shibuya Hal overtook Pekora
>Miko incline
>Subaru and Flare

>> No.9048291

>VOD views are meaningless.
They sure are a lot better than CCV from a marketing pov.

>> No.9048315

>>9048279
so Pekora's average CCU went up with less hours.
I'm not taking that Kuzuha month for August serious, If he does the same for September then fair enough.

>> No.9048371

>>9048291
I don't know about that. If I were looking for a holo to market my product I'd certainly pick Rushia who can get up to 15k viewer almost any day over Flare, yet Flare is above Rushia on that list simply because she streams much more hours.

>> No.9048441

>>9048371
But it's like Koshien vs Holo, Nijisanji got the highest CCV for August at 210k but got absolutely demolished in monthly views despite having 100 person advantage.

Which one would the company go for? Who knows because this is all just shitty conjecture.

>> No.9048502

>>9048050
daruma inclining

>> No.9048508

>>9048315
The thing is - if he'll be active through a month, he's guaranteed to be above all Holos by total views, even without any super big events - July as an example.
But knowing him - he easily can start his laze-off streak and stop streaming for several days, which will definitely ruin his total views.

>> No.9048531

>>9048279
>chihiro
>330hrs in july
>283hrs in august
did she find a boyfriend?

>> No.9048546

>>9048291
>>9048371
From a marketing POV there are a whole lot of factors more important than CCV, VOD or numbers in general. Audience fit is much more important

For instance, if I were in charge of finding a chuuba to sell, let's say, Beats headphones in the North American market the obvious choice would be
>Calli
even not having the same type of numbers as Gura in any metrics.

Same thing for games and Botan (over Pekora), same thing for sake and Lamy (over, let's say, Subaru). Market fit is much more important than silly small numbers

>> No.9048577

>>9048531
Yeah, me

>> No.9048598

>>9048577
What do you mean? You're my bitch, not Chihiro's bf.

>> No.9048600

>>9048441
You're talking about a specific event. I specifically said "on almost any day" for a reason. Looking at CCV requires some critical judgement too.
>>9048546
Of course. I meant all other factors aside, but I guess I should have made that clear.

>> No.9048641

Does anyone have data about vshojo streamlabs donation numbers or number of subscribers?

>> No.9048672

>>9048050
>flare
huh?

>> No.9048684

>>9048600
>all other factors aside
Still doesn't matter, Hayato got sponsored by Gundam and Duel monsters despite not having the top ccv. If ccv mattered, Kuzuha and Kenmochi would be getting sponsors out the ass, when the only sponsors Kuzuha is in are group ones at this point

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>Top 10 so far, with some lag for the ongoing streams
Lamy what what now?

>> No.9048938

>>9048838
Call-ins

>> No.9048958
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In other news, NijiKR debuting another branch in 40 minutes. Always wondered how many they could gather for debuts in KR.

>> No.9049006

>>9048958
kek, they have 23 active KR so far, what's their grand strategy there?

>> No.9049078
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmueQFUV_IU
pngtuber revealing live2d

>> No.9049093

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1432976708953677824
Meli 3D

>> No.9049105

>>9048958
Korean Lamy...

>> No.9049115

>>9047643
>suishit
Go back to /jp/, schizo. Nobody will pay you the attention you need.

>> No.9049118

>>9049006
they wanna make KRs hate vtubers, befor holoKR will debu.simple sabotage.
btw 2 girls on left ve got great design, but i ve no hope for good rigging

>> No.9049131

>>9049006
To be honest, out of those 23, these 4 have the best designs. I wonder why?
Also really hope for another KR, who fluently speaks English.

>> No.9049155

It took Reflect exactly 10.5 hours to reach 1M.
King will be close, so better keep it precise.

>> No.9049203

can some1 explaing me what is Lamy trying to do to get her 800k sub? is she just calling senpais and talk to them?

>> No.9049206

>>9049078
Respectable views for an indie. Plays with uruha on apex (?), but wait this is gonna be another apex indie...

>>9049093
Just found out that she's a singer wow. 11M for a cover. Were there any other covers/og songs made by niji that went pass 10M? You don't see those everyday.

>> No.9049221

>>9049203
Yes. It's like a totsumachi but backwards. Gyakutotsu.

>> No.9049223

>>9049118
They already hated it because they are pandering to Japs unlike hololive doing the opposite foreign branches pandering to them.

>> No.9049225

>>9049093
Meli is another one of those low end performers despite being talented, everyone is expecting singing, so I expect a good turnout like Chima's 3D live.

>> No.9049237
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Lamy trying to outrun Ollie to 800k.
Bold move, but the call in guests can help.

"btw, i know Lamy probably has no idea what the IDs numbers even hare"

>> No.9049255

>>9049237
Lamy is a smart chick, she knows SC will RAIN when she achieves whatever arbitrary goal she sets.

She could have set 798k subs and it would be the same

>> No.9049261

>>9048958
Is the last girl actually an Axolotl?
If so, she'll win trending numbers.

>> No.9049282

>>9049206
>but wait this is gonna be another apex indie...
Just wait until all the other apex players get live2d. It's only a matter of time before all of CR is fully rigged.

>> No.9049283

>>9049255
She's also doing it the day before her outfit reveal to get double the payday.
Since Milestones usually make more money than outfit reveals, it would be bad to stack them, but, if YT deletes some subs she could hit 800k again, during the real.

>> No.9049285

>NOOOOOOOOOO!
Haachama called Lamy and I missed because I was looking at numbers!

>> No.9049318

>>9049282
CR will then be VSaikyou 2.0 and Nijisanji has achieved nijisanjification through volunteers

>> No.9049333

>>9049223
>They already hated it because niji are pandering
do KRs have same feelings toward pandering to EOPs? i had feeling that KRs better in english on average then JPs

>> No.9049343

>>9049285
Last chance to see Chammers this week.

>> No.9049400

Here is the special dates calendary for September on Hololive
Birthdays
>Sep 8: Shishiro Botan
>Sep 9: Pavolia Reine
>Sep 26: Yukoku Roberu
Anniversaries
>Sep 3: Nakiri Ayame
>Sep 4: Yuzuki Choco
>Sep 7: Tokino Sora
>Sep 12: Mori Calliope
>Sep 12: Takanashi Kiara
>Sep 13: Ninomae Ina'nis
>Sep 13: Gawr Gura
>Sep 13: Watson Amelia
>Sep 16: Oozora Subaru

Predictions for HoloEN 1st anniversary?

>> No.9049417

>>9049400
They'll get a 3D 'announcement' but it'll be the same as the ID 'announcement' where they'll just confirm it'll happen at some point but absolutely nothing in terms of a date or anything.

>> No.9049476

>>9049417
They might, it all depends if Calli could return back to Japan.

>> No.9049485
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Pope Goombas VII has awoken, guramori cover shall reach 1mil now

>> No.9049514

799,121 Views at just under 8 hours.
Gonna be pretty close.

>> No.9049518

>>9049417
i m pretty much sure either ID / EN of both will participate in huge Hololi live in december

>> No.9049539

First KR debut is up in a few min.
https://youtu.be/k-1-UZmRemA

>> No.9049543

>>9049400
They would probably do small relays or something. Like, Kiara will celebrate her anniversary for 1 hour then it'll move to Calli's stream. The other 3 would do the same on the 13th. Then they'll do a collab the next day or something with an announcement. Minimum $10k and 25k views for each.

>> No.9049650

>>9049543
Kiara would be greedy/smart enough to suggest that instead each of them should take one day in prime time for a week. I dont know if the others would agree though

>> No.9049738

Numberfagging aside, Nijisanji avatar rigs don't disappoint.

>> No.9049762

>>9049738
Niji KR?

>> No.9049768

>>9049762
Yes the cat

>> No.9049791

Asahina Akane and Saegusa Akina both uploaded a music cover/song at the same time. One has 400 views and the other, 7k. Guess why.

>> No.9049809

>>9049738
Edengumi are pretty stiff tho

>> No.9049812

>>9049791
Manjisanji?

>> No.9049854

>>9049791
Ir's Akina's birthday and also Ako spams covers so it's not as special. Even if her singing is godly.

>> No.9049875
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Going head to head against Lamy huge stream, Kanata is surely holding her own, 10k+ with MonHun.

>> No.9049889

>>9049791
Bruh, I've never even heard about Akane. Only by googling did I know she's from the same group as Chigusa. I only know Chigusa and the green one.
>>9049809
They look hot so its ok.

>> No.9049892

>>9049768
link pls

>> No.9049900
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9049900

Rbk…

>> No.9049905

>>9049738
Edengumi has awful rigging for the most part

>> No.9049924

>>9049738
The range is too limited, that they cannot look left side / right side.

>> No.9049966

>>9049738
what? they're utter shit.

>> No.9049978

>>9049924
歯をむき出して パッパッパッ 照れくさいね

>> No.9050018

>>9049738
Nijisanji does its rigging in house and all of it is meh aside from some upgrades
>>9049924
HAAA O MUKIDASHITE PA PA PA

>> No.9050074

>>9049791
One popular and another isn't?
Who let this retard in this thread?

>> No.9050095

>>9049966
As always.
That was their business model from the start.
First they get a poorly rigged model and depending on their performance, get a better rig, even 2.0 and 3.0 and eventually a 3D model.

I was pretty surprised NijiEN at least didn't have that awful jitter every NijiJp starts off with.

>> No.9050134

>>9050074
Yeah, who let you inside here.

>> No.9050138

>>9050095
Could you imagine the utter ridicule NijiEN would've gotten if they started with L2Ds worse than HoloEN?
There would be no end to the amount of shit-slinging they would've gotten, especially since 2.0 would be pretty far off. They knew that they had to at least give them that if they wanted them to survive.

>> No.9050162

>>9050138
well the bar is pretty low with gura's rigging

>> No.9050164

>>9050095
>3.0
>depending on their performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjsBVOyQw0Y

>> No.9050184

>>9050138
niji rigs are shit but holoen is like the bottom of the industry except for rrat and mori lol

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>>9050184
>except for rrat and mori
Come on, Clockgirl rig is top notch and you would have to be an absolute partisan hack to deny it
https://twitter.com/keffiy/status/1429548235589255172

>> No.9050334

>>9049791
AKINA GET BEHIND ME

>> No.9050340
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>>9050138
i will never forgot how ppl here shitted on Selen's design,because
>it is copy-past elira
>forst relationships with elira

>> No.9050344

>>9050134
Don't reply to me manjischizo

>> No.9050365

>>9050138
design is good but rigging isn't impressive

>> No.9050422

>>9050309
Too bad his AXEL-V daughters aren't popular at all

>> No.9050434

>>9050184
stop embarrassing yourself

>> No.9050469

So is it a totsu season for Holo now? I remember they used to spam those last year for family-like appeal.

>> No.9050494

>>9050469
I don't think totsus ever went out of fashion.

>> No.9050515

>>9050162
>>9050184
>>9050365
I mean exactly that, if they had debuted with the jittery rigging that NijiJP's usually debut with...
Whew man, what a sight that would've been.

>> No.9050570

>>9047801
The girl behind the goblino avatar is fucking god-tier so good for her. She is clearly loving the streaming part of her contract a lot considering she's not obligated to do it

>> No.9050619
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>Straight up sings about how she wants money, gets from both YT and Bili
Also, her original song after is about how she wants yakiniku with other people's money, lol

Is she really doing that well, the CN seem to love this.

Also, is that live viewer count 54.8k or 548k?

>> No.9050620 [DELETED] 

you can just look at Oliver.
i dont know why nowadays niji is not ashamed of giving to new members of their main branch old live2Ds

>> No.9050659

>>9050620
lauren...

>> No.9050662

>>9050515
you can just look at Oliver.
i dont know why nowadays niji is not ashamed of giving to new members of their main branch old live2Ds

>> No.9050667

>>9050619
万 = 10k
You'd do well to remember that if you want to numberfag.

>> No.9050687

>>9050662
They get waves of SC money every time they upgrade the rig, it's a pretty smart move plus they don't get hate for giving scuffed rigs unlike the other company.

>> No.9050700

>>9050667
I thought so... it's, i wanted some confirmation because the prospect of this stream having over 540k live viewers...

>> No.9050717
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>he's still artificially boosting these.
Go check what they were before Kuzuha started, This is clearly intentional, Nijisanji is scummy as fuck.

>> No.9050718

>>9050687
>hey don't get hate for giving scuffed rigs unlike the other company.
this is kinda ironic

>> No.9050722

>>9050662
They're low cost/high profit investments. Please, we've been thru this.

>>9050687
>pretty smart move
I kek'd

>> No.9050749

>>9050184
>holoen is like the bottom of the industry except for rrat and mori lol
Kiara, Ina, Ame, Kronii, and Sana all have great rigging. Only Gura's is outright bad.

>> No.9050751

>>9050717
Chinese investors, please understando.

>> No.9050760

>>9050667
>>9050700
Now 556k live on bilibili

Also, 4th song in a row about wanting money.

>> No.9050769

>>9050717
he's not boosting anyone he's literally just retarded

>> No.9050785

>>9050749
lmao
maybe its a good thing holobronies live in a bubble

>> No.9050790

>>9050184
>Kiara was literally industry standard when she launched.
I know it's been a year since anon and all these new flashy "3.0" have taken your mind away, but stop embarrassing yourself.

>> No.9050885 [DELETED] 

>>9050760
>556k
It's 55.6k

>> No.9050957

>>9050760
Just use an online converter.
Also bilibili numbers mean jack shit. It’s not even called viewership, they call it activity score

>> No.9050987

>>9050619
>>9050667
>>9050700
>>9050760
>>9050885
didn't we discussed that bilibili has a broken system, where 1 person equil different amount of "viewers" depending on their "formula"?

>> No.9050992

>>9050760
>Now 556k live on bilibili
That's not how Bilibili works lol. Their numbers are a complete mystery because it's called activity score and it's a secret combination of multiple numbers.

>> No.9051120

>>9047801
can collab with anyone, one of the best singers in hololive, pleasant, clear and cute zatsudan voice. can't wait for her model to get updated. she's only going to keep inclining over time.

>> No.9051154

>>9049206
Why do her song covers get so many views

>> No.9051177

>>9051154
I'm a suisei fag, and I don't know either. She's sings well I guess, on the same level as Chima and Toko.

>> No.9051184

Almost 10 hours and still hasnt break 1m

>> No.9051187

>>9051154
No premiere = not as much hype
Hard enough for original songs to get views, a cover of an original song is like twice as hard.

>> No.9051197

>>9051120
Literally like azki including a shitty base model. Does the vsinger title carry a curse with it?

>> No.9051289
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>State of the tutorial fight
ClockGirl already beat the final tutorial boss. RatGirl, OwlGirl and GreenLamy are lined up for the fight
>GyaruGirl…
Still recovering from a critical hit with a cursed sword that gave her a -10MP/minute penalty for 100 rounds, will clear the trash mobs… anyday now

>> No.9051325

>>9051197
Cover is too obsessed with getting big name artists instead of making sure they give the models good designs.

>> No.9051380
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WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT?

>The combined forces of the strongest and most celebrated streamers of the largest vtuber company in Japan
>One meek elf making phone calls to her friends

THE ANSWER WILL STUN YOU!

>> No.9051395

>>9051380
Is R6S Kuzuha’s new apex?

>> No.9051400

>>9048269
You're responding to a retard. He assume that everyone that's watching Gura is on adblock when most of YouTube uses an app of some form. Every time people open a stream an ad unit will play which gives them money, so he's patently wrong about that statement.

He did mention YouTube Premium (not Prime, you retard) though, which allocates therevenue based on watch time instead, which piles up quick... and overwhelmingly so because almost no one outside of corporations and VTubers streams on YouTube.

>> No.9051422

>>9051395
Nah, it’s a smart move of a more social game that can be used to box push his peers.
Reminds me of Botan dragging some Holos to play casual shooters for fun and numerical benefits

>> No.9051424

>>9050095
3.0 is based off of lottery. Or else how the fuck did Hajime get it before Moira or Aki?

>> No.9051461

The King vs Reflect record is gonna go down right to the wire.

>> No.9051468

>>9050987
>>9050992
To be able to chat on Buggybuggy, you have to answer 50 questions. I am 70% sure some users are worth more points than others due to this and maybe social score too.

>> No.9051526

>>9051468
It’s be pretty funny if some CCP official was worth 100k or something ridiculous like that.

>> No.9051623

>>9051422
>>9051395
He's playing it with them because they are all in a tournament soon.

>> No.9051756
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9051756

It just reached 900K from I think 882K as I skimemd through everyone mentioning "king" in this thread...
10 hours and 28 minutes right?

>> No.9051803

>>9051756
its got an hour to match reflect since that took 10.5 hours

>> No.9051818

>>9051756
It's getting close.

It's like Gura was made to break records. Too bad she doesn't give a crap about those.

>> No.9051840

>>9051803
>1 hour for 100k
yeah it's not happening then.

>> No.9051884

>>9051840
yeah i going to guess king will take 11 hours

>> No.9051896

>>9051840
It was doing over 100k an hour not too long ago, but yeah it's slowed down too much. To be fair I don't think anyone expected it to challenge Reflect so the fact it came close is pretty damn impressive.

>> No.9051956

>>9051896
Indeed, looks like Gura does take the "fastest cover to 1million" record though regardless.

>> No.9052028

>>9051756
King is kinda outdated in popularity if it was something like goodbye sengen or odo, it would break the record even faster.

>> No.9052073

>>9052028
Something like Odo would've been the real record smasher, that feels like the 'in' song right now.

>> No.9052103

>>9052073
Odo wouldn't do good with Gura's voice. Calli, maybe.

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>>9051803
If we're talking primetime affecting her views, then it's now up to the hentai readers in eastern europe, and the weeb goatfuckers in Jordan and UAE.

>> No.9052139
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>it hasn't even reflected on Holostats that Gura is generated views
Which will happen first: Gura hitting 1M views or HoloStats updating.

>> No.9052150

>>9052103
>Odo with Gura's voice
That does sound like a weird combination.

>> No.9052164

>>9052103
This very unpolished version of Gura singing it got really popular amongst JOPs, I think you underestimate the popularity of the song. I don't think she did that badly either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zJ7Yz6I028

>> No.9052200
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9052200

Okay, so what's with nips, male vtubers and superchatting?

>> No.9052215

>>9052200
just look at male twitch streamers

>> No.9052227

>>9052139
It updates once an hour, and depends on YouTube API updating as well, which may delay it another hour

>> No.9052257

>>9052200
For Nijisanji it’s more that their fanbase wait for a special occasion to dump all their SC. Hololive fans consistently donate with a big spike for special ocassions.

>> No.9052258

>>9052200
it's his birthday and he dropped his first original song

>> No.9052315

>>9052257
Nijisanji fans consistently spend money on voice packs and merch while also dropping huge SCs for special occasions, holofags aren't even remotely in the same ballpark when it comes to money.

>> No.9052358

>>9052315
Holo make up 9 of the top 10 you fucking moron for all time superchatted.

>> No.9052364

>>9052139
Tell me if this is accurate or not
https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-view-counter/qNIhngowViI

>> No.9052365
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>THE DAY SO FAR
1. Blue “green Lamy”
2. Emperor
3. King
4. RatGirl (feat. ClockGirl)
5. Princess Shrine Maid
6. Prince
7. Sultan
8. Some random angel
9. Green Lamy
10. Same random angel

>> No.9052390

>>9052358
That's just SCs, Nijis earn more than that through yells and merch

>> No.9052409

>>9052358
anon... its a portion of a bait post
>>8848732
>>8967152

>> No.9052416

>>9052365
What kind of numbers did KING have during the premiere?

>> No.9052430

>>9052390
>Nijis earn more than that through yells and merch
Sadly there is no public available number for that so people have to go with what’s visible

>> No.9052447

>>9052430
Stop replying to bait post

>> No.9052522

>>9052416
About 28k

>> No.9052525

>>9052315
>Nijisanji fans consistently spend money on voice packs and merch
>aren't even remotely in the same ballpark
Don't start speculating/spreading bullshit in this holy thread. Merch/Sponsorships/Ad revenue shall not be discussed here because there's no concrete numbers for it. I see nijifags spouts that nijis' merch solds out every time, but it's nothing when they can control the amount available. 100 out of 100 items sold items is incomparable to 900 out of 1000 sold items.

>> No.9052544

>>9052416
Anon has it at 29k: >>9033084

>> No.9052670

>>9052200
What's the big deal though? Hololive members makes that much in a month through SCs.

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>> No.9052790

They way Gura, Ame, and Ina just don’t give a shit about SC really makes me think it’s become a smaller and smaller part of their total income. Even conservative estimates suggest memberships are at least comparable income which require a fraction of the effort, and views/ads/premium probably is a huge chunk too. Even Mori is less aggressive about it. What are everyone’s guesses as sc as a percentage of revenue for the EN girls? I’m starting to think 25% or so is plausible

>> No.9052871

>>9052390
Anon, we know the revenue for both Hololive and Nijisanji thanks to public financial records. You can stop repeating this lie.

>> No.9052873

939k at 10 hours. What was the exact time for reflect? US is waking up so might get a little surge of people who missed it last night. Probably still lose but who thought King Cover #97 would do so well?

>> No.9052883

>>9052763
Not real member's numbers. I'm not a member and I could see the count too.

>> No.9052918

>>9052873
10h 29m. It won't make it, but it was a valiant effort.

>> No.9052919

>>9052763
can't non-members be in the waiting room since JPs have it set to public before going live

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>>9052763
8 mins in. her total views

>> No.9052988

>>9052790
>They way Gura, Ame, and Ina just don’t give a shit about SC really makes me think it’s become a smaller and smaller part of their total income
It’s not just on the EN side. Haachama made it an art to redirect her audience on getting membership.
She actually do cute SC readings but every so often she disables SC when she’s busier, and leaves membership as the only avenue to reward her.
Also her ASMR member only archives are a very popular member bait

>> No.9053012

>>9052943
You know you can see exact live numbers by adding the member video to a playlist and viewing it on a mobile device, right?

>> No.9053023

>>9052943
>pajeet hands were in charge of hiding this info

>> No.9053032

>>9052790
It's possible that the cut taken from memberships is lesser than through SCs

>> No.9053042

>>9053012
Apparently one anon did that, but the reported numbers were different than the ones the anon using this method found.
I dunno man, YT is wack.

>> No.9053044

>>9052139
The views seem to update only once a day.

>> No.9053053

>>9052790
Ame reads superchats all in one day.
Ina is literally too busy even if she wanted to.
Gura reads it but there’s zero expectation that she will ever catch up.

>> No.9053092

>>9052790
It never was a big part of their income to begin with. They make more from memberships than they do Superchats and ad revenue would make another huge chunk (with Premium users bringing up the rear). They even had sponsorships going before their 6 months hit. I would go as far as to guess that for them SC accounts for less than 20% of their overall income (assuming they they have the standard Cover cut and didn't renegotiate like Lamy did).

>> No.9053095

>>9050619
This is the girl who shill bilibili to indies/viewers on youtube lol.

>> No.9053156

>>9052790
Memberships are apparently better according to Polka.

>> No.9053160

>>9053092
>like Lamy did
Source on Lamy talking about it? I like to hear them talking about the inner details

>> No.9053230

Aren’t they up for new contracts? Myth could play serious hardball with Cover if they were so inclined. Though I think only Kiara and to a lessor extent Mori and Ina would really push hard. Fuck they should fight for a much better cut but who knows with jp autism.

>> No.9053234

>>9052790
more than half I reckon, ads/views/premium are negligible incomes at best, $0.01 per view with Ads, and most of viewers are using adblocks anyway, the other half is from membership

>> No.9053259

>>9053230
They probably resigned back in like June/July or something, the anniversary of when they actually joined the company rather than the anniversary of when they debuted.

>> No.9053263

>>9053230
Cover doesn't really need holoEN to survive.

>> No.9053275

>>9053156
If that's the case why don't they have more tiers?

>> No.9053310

even with King + Calli, Reflect couldn't be overtaken on time huh. It slowed down considerably during JP prime time.

>> No.9053384

>>9053310
Calli's wigger shit is a debuff

>> No.9053391

>>9053275
What do you want them to do? Even Finana's $100 tier is a bait. Gura's karaoke is the only one that's worth the $5 a month.

>> No.9053427

>>9053230
Mori will definitely push to be able to collab with more e-celebs.
>>9053275
Why don’t they outright beg for more money? It looks greedy. Mori has been catching shit for her tiered membership streams for ages and now she’s removing it.

>> No.9053429

>>9053263
They would survive but if Mori or especially Gura left on bad terms it would be a Capcom level shitstorm.

>> No.9053437

>>9053259
>They probably resigned
Why would they resign when they're printing money?

>> No.9053454

>>9053437
*Re-signed on their contracts

>> No.9053509

>>9053230
>Myth could play serious hardball with Cover if they were so inclined.
kek, you never made business with the Japanese. Unlike negotiating with, for instance, Americans, which expect each side to take an adversarial position with no hard feelings afterwards and with one side trying to low ball as mush as they can and the other to exaggerate on the other direction, nips don’t generally expect “haggling”.
One side opens with their best offer, the other tries to adjust some minute detail and that’s it.

The millisecond any sort of “demand” or “condition” is raised they just walk from the deal and move away, SPECIALLY when they have the upper hand, like in this case owning the model and the copyright for everything.

>> No.9053589

REFLECT's like record is unbeaten for another day!

>> No.9053609

>>9053589
I genuinely don't know if it's beatable at this point if even Gura/Mori KING comes up short.

>> No.9053631

>>9053391
>cumsharts really believe this
Gura's singing is passable at best
But that's beyond the point. The worth of a membership is how much you want to support your oshi, not what you can get in exchange for it. Faggot

>> No.9053641

>>9053609
Only if another hyped Gura song that doesn't bomb gets released

>> No.9053645

>>9052918
957k. More than respectable. But who can take that crown now? Single from a new Mori EP? Gura EP? Gen collab song for first 3d?

>> No.9053742

Thread is almost dead, so I'll come clean today. As a long time tribal faggot, not a shitposter, I come to realize that both companies can earn a lot of money on their own and there's no point seething at imaginary numbers. I'll leave this board and will come back if Niji have something that could contest with HoloEN overseas. I'm confident Male vtubers would just be apexshit and they all will be a 1k view. Until then, sayonara shitters.

>> No.9053757

>>9053509
We literally have an example in this thread of someone walking away from Cover who is currently top three in SC. Mori already has maintained her pre Holo identity and would get huge crossover. Not all of them. But enough that she is probably the best positioned to leave if she felt like it. Keeping Cover’s cut would make up for a lot of other sins.

>> No.9053770

>>9053645
I'll tell you what, gen collab definitely won't do it because they are not all good singers.
A regular Gura single might do it though.

>> No.9053789

>>9053230
Lol no.
COVER has all the power here, don't forget they own EVERYTHING they built. Nobody gave a shit about Calli's "music" before Hololive, and no-one will give a shit after. Kiara is in an even more complicated position, as Hololive is her only career prospect now that she is blacklisted from idol stuff (and already too old even if she were accepted). Ame is irrelevant.
Ina and Gura are the only ones with some actual pull power; Gura for being the literal face of vtubing right now, and Ina because this is all a hobby for her

>> No.9053825

>>9053391
>>9053427
Just let them as support only, without any perks, I don't have any doubts that gachikois will pay

Mori was offering more for T2 and T3, it's not like people paying for T1 were getting less that what other holomem offers at the same tier

>> No.9053837

>>9053789
>she is blacklisted from idol stuff
rrat?

>> No.9053853

>>9053645
Unironically Kiara
A lot of people are warming up to her (she is the JP favourite, and all her senpais love her and promote her stuff), and her songs are all fantastic that could have been hits had she not had bad luck. She is super talented and can create another great song, she just needs to get lucky.

>> No.9053873

>>9053645
IMO, Gura single, advertised as happening like, a week ahead of time, with an MV (reflect didn't have one, imagine if it DID).
Also, something more fitting to her voice. As interesting as Reflect was, I don't think it used Gura's voice to its fullest potential. Something truly soulful like a slow country or blues original, or perhaps something city-pop styled.

>> No.9053897

>>9053825
>Mori was offering more for T2 and T3, it's not like people paying for T1 were getting less that what other holomem offers at the same tier
Just a note; Mori is moving to having all streams at T1 starting in October, she had wanted to change to that system not long after she put it in place but management told her she had to see out the streaming year with the current system for whatever reason.

>> No.9053906

>>9053789
Does listing on your resume that you were "previously a vtuber with more than 1M viewers on youtube" go against NDA or something?

>> No.9053928

>>9053789
Pretty sure, Ina is one of the top streaming drawing artist in the world right now. 11k for a drawing stream is a lot.

>>9053853
She also needs to stop debuffing herself with shitty games. Even her mother recommends some of the best games in the decade. How hard is it to play a game without monetization, then do a superchat reading a day later.

>> No.9053937

>>9053853
Drop the chicken voice and then we'll talk.
Until then, she's going to filter too many people.
>>9053837
Pretty sure if we're going by rrats she fucked up and had to quit/was kicked out of the idol group she was in during her teens. I don't care enough to scrounge on details.

>> No.9053957

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZwiUaA0O8

>Not even a million in a week
Is Ado losing her power?

>> No.9053967

>>9053837
There's no way someone is this new when there's Kiara hate threads every single day with this info

>> No.9054006

>>9053837
We don't know if she is blacklisted or not but she definitely has a bad reputation for saying bad things about her employers
I'm not saying that she was wrong (probably not) but this doesn't go well in Japan

>> No.9054011

>>9053957
Shit song.
Ado works best when she can abuse her crazy grunge growls or awesome pitch shifts, and this is not such case.

>> No.9054016

>>9053967
why would someone visit these threads

>> No.9054015

>>9053967
I hide those threads, i dont give a fuck about schizos fighting eachother

>> No.9054037

>>9053742
See you next thread

>> No.9054041

>>9052790
https://youtu.be/XtFv6_UcHwk
Since someone bring this up, this is a clip from matsuri talking about incomes of holos

>> No.9054075

King is losing viewers.. went from 963k to 962k.

>> No.9054091

Youtube is killing Gura's King views

>> No.9054198

>>9054075
967 on my end.

>> No.9054220

>>9053928
Ina is the top drawing streamer and it’s not close. She averages almost double the highest streamer on Twitch, who is… Bob Ross. After that it falls off hard.

Drawing high level art is terrible for streaming. Clean line work and detailed shading are tedious and take forever so literally nothing visible happens on screen for hours. Ina is not only really fast she is able to chat, interact, and be funny/cute while maintaining her work rate. Even someone like Naoki makes videos and uses tons of time lapse to avoid dead air. Mamaloni is blazing fast but translator was doing the heavy lifting for chat interaction.

This maybe why Sana isn’t streaming art. It’s actually really hard and usually gets bad numbers unless you have a very specific skill set.

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>>9054091
>>9054075

>> No.9054249

>>9054041
Because of the extremely high production cost, it is almost impossible to pay back for original music, and it is difficult to invest a lot of original music without taking the music-based route. Cover songs can reduce production costs but it is difficult to collect revenue, so cover songs are mainly used to serve fans. As for the proportion of income, it is difficult to say that there is more. The small amount of live broadcast ratings and SC may account for more revenue from viewing advertisements. In the case of Mother Snow, the live broadcast audience is stable at more than 6,000 people, and the total number of views is also very ordinary, but the SC data accounts for a very high proportion. Shasha live audiences are average with SC, but the total number of views is relatively high, and advertising revenue is relatively high. There is also a higher membership fee for membership...it’s hard to say which type is better. - Google translated from a comment there

tldr: Original songs generate revenue, but income is small and if it doesn't do well, the member loses money. Cover doesn't produce a lot of revenue, better off as promotional tools. Ad revenue or memberships are usually the better options. Nothing about merch and sponsorships since I can't understand nip.

>> No.9054317

>>9053609
Releasing a song at PST prime time is much worse than releasing a song in Japan evening.

>> No.9054328

>>9054249
Cover should spend money promoting the music-related holos. Watame, Suisei, Sora, AZKi, Mori. They should be promoted verywhere

>> No.9054407

>>9054006
The Japanese don’t care. This shit is almost a decade old, the only ones who care are the schizos on this board.
Kiara doesn’t even get listed on some of the “why this vtuber gets hate” videos. Fucking Gura gets listed for the whole Jay thing still.

>> No.9054436

>>9054249
This is why connections can make difference in how many Originals you can produce and release.

Case and point: Mori has connections to all kinds of people in the music production side and can pick up the slack herself if she needs too.

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>>9054225
>>9054198
Your usual youtube experience.

>> No.9054510

>>9053789
>no-one will give a shit after
The moment she graduates all the new fans she accumulated by then will spill over back to her roommate like Kson

>> No.9054528

>>9054249
Imagine how much Mori and Kiara earned through her music. Especially mori, she pumps a lot of originals in the year she's been as a Holo. Irys is also stepping up to be a musical holo, but she doesn't write her own songs. Both Mori and Irys could work together since they work in Japan.

>>9054436
Seems like Suisei also gets some useful connections with how many songs she's producing in these 3 months

>> No.9054618

>>9054528
>how much Mori and Kiara earned through her music
Maybe enough to get back the production cost but no more, Money from music comes from sales and concert (and associated merchandise).

>> No.9054633

>>9054510
She'll struggle with content, most streamers do. At least in Hololive, collabs/3D debuts/songs/new debuts keeps everything fresh and everyone wants to see a continuous anime arcs. Do I need to remind you how much she's earning too? You don't seriously believe she would have the same success as Coco did after she graduated? Kiara's stupid for even trying that roommate bullshit not even a year in Hololive.

>> No.9054641

>>9054618
Mori almost certainly made most of her money from sponsorships, I'm willing to bet the Scarlet Nexus one was especially lucrative.

>> No.9054715

>>9054633
To be fair, other holos like Noel have kept up a strong roommate presence even after joining hololive. Though in Noel's case she almost never shittalks the company so no one expects her to quit.

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Will marine be able to beat Lamy today?

>> No.9054817

So looking at today's schedule, Gura will be back to be the most viewed EN since she will play a new game, Sims 4. And if we go by Kiara's experience, she will peak during the characters creations segment, unless she straight up goes to play and created the characters offscreen.
Kronii will just continue an RTS but early than before and two hours after Gura's, and unless something interesting occurs like on her last 12 minutes stream, I doubt she will beat Gura today.

>> No.9054829

>>9054618
*sips tea* She keeps earning money so long the song is still up in itunes, spotify or YT. That's the benefits of original songs. She has like what 9 OG songs above 1M?

>> No.9054884

>>9054715
That, and Kiara's was so blatantly an attempt at funneling it's not even funny
-Use chicken voice that she never used before on her roommate account
-'leak' the fact that she's Kiara, act like it was a big yab when the fact that she's using the chicken voice indicates this was premeditated
As for Mori or anyone leaving Hololive and taking their fanbase with them...it was have to be on GOOD terms much like how Coco left, she's it's clear the company was in the wrong in some way and that reconciliation wasn't going to happen any time soon. All the reasons I've read for Mori leaving boil down to " so she can focus on music", and that doesn't sound like a compelling enough reason to part on when she's still able to produce music and reach a wider audience than on her roommate account.

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>>9053645
Mori's song sold really well, Mori has her original songs on karaoke across Japan, you can go to any karaoke bar in Japan and find Mori's songs in the lists, RIP especially was popular, it was the only song sung by non jp that made it into top vtubers song 2020

>> No.9054981

>>9054829
Just took a quick look at Spotify, it's 10.

>> No.9054997

>>9054328
Anon, we have gone of ther this multiple times. You CANNOT in any way show any semblance of favoritism in a female dominated work environment or it will devolve into a degenerate slut fest for the top spot. The only one that has more or less gotten away with this is Gura, and that's only because she is so overwhelmingly popular and sort a doormat that won't complain if you giver both the good and the bad in succession.

>> No.9055001

>>9054829
Almost every song/album Mori has made has topped charts.
She’s not hurting for money.
Also why the fuck did this thread turn into another Kiara split thread.

>> No.9055020

>>9054884
Yeah, I guess there's a difference between "I'm reactivating/continuing my roommate activities because I want to do stuff I don't do under hololive" and "I want to leech off my hololive fame".

>> No.9055093

>>9055001
>another Kiara split thread.
Because anons can't help themself and keep timelooping about how chuubas are better off without company shackle and whatnot, and then it turn into roomate history.

>> No.9055104

>>9054997
that and gura's been shafted in other departments. mainly rigging

>> No.9055115

>>9054913
Those clueless Japs must think that mori is the coolest shit ever

>> No.9055153

>>9055001
Because numberfags and schizos tend to overlap.

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