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https://hololivepro.com/news_en/20241129-01-137/

>> No.90445727 [DELETED] 

Only irrelevant people leave Hololive
Good riddance

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>>90445636

>> No.90445923 [DELETED] 

>>90445727
*People who leave Hololive are irrelevant
ftfy

>> No.90445926 [DELETED] 

The affiliate deal for Ame and Chloe is only because they are already part of the new years shuffle medley and it's too expensive to change that last minute.

>> No.90445933 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
It's over

>> No.90445970 [DELETED] 

Fuck you, why wasn't my thread stickied? I was literally first.

>> No.90445975 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
>another holo sticky
Fuck off nobody cares

>> No.90445979 [DELETED] 

towa is next

>> No.90445985 [DELETED] 

Who’s going to stink now?

>> No.90445991 [DELETED] 

What did Phase do this time?

>> No.90445992 [DELETED] 

wait is this fucking real?

>> No.90446005 [DELETED] 

>>90445727
What will the cope be when Gura leaves I wonder

>> No.90446009 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Cheer up mods. You have my condolences

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>>90445636
Postin' in da Sticky!

>> No.90446014 [DELETED] 

>>90445923
I get the feeling more of them will leave next year... and the year after...

>> No.90446031 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Got in wanting to just do 3 years of hololive
Good riddance

>> No.90446037 [DELETED] 

>>90445926
Ame was also part of the Eurobeat Remix album and Mori's full EN orisong

>> No.90446041 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
What the fuck?
Why?

>> No.90446047 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
>"Affiliate"
Ame just proved that its an actual graduation without the theatrics
Chloe is gone
Based mods for realizing this grift

>> No.90446054 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
she's pregnant

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>>90445636
>the shareholders are forcing me to do up to 2 hours of work a day?
>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Cover can do no wrong, Kuroe will be forgotten and abandoned for betraying the cause I LOVE HOLOLIVE death be to all who defend Kuroe the traitor whore, and to anyone who wishes to follow in her footsteps this isyourlast and only warningKNOWYOURPLACESLUTyou're nothing without hololive we MADE you an idol and we can take you down to the dump if you step out of line I LOVE HOLOLIVE

>> No.90446085 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Oh. A sticky. Posting on a sticky then.
Fuck cover and their shitty direction and them pushing whatever this affiliate shit is.

>> No.90446096 [DELETED] 

>>90446054
yeah with me

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>5 hours later finally make a sticky
Are jannies niggers?

>> No.90446098 [DELETED] 

>>90446054
Yeah, with me

>> No.90446115 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
HoloX bros...

>> No.90446121 [DELETED] 

>>90445970
(you)

here you go anon, you got your (you)

>> No.90446122 [DELETED] 

>>90446005
Vtubing will die when Gura leaves
This won't be like Oyabun's hibernation where Gura was waiting to take her crown
If vtubing wants to survive it needs to find the Gura replacement ASAP

>> No.90446126 [DELETED] 

>>90446037
>Mori's full EN orisong
There's a new song?

>> No.90446131 [DELETED] 

>>90446016
based mummeh poster

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>>90445636
Mommy next please.

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>>90446096
>>90446098
congratulations for being chloe's kids

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ALL GENERALS REPORT IN

>> No.90446149 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
it's over.
having graduations in Hololive is almost normal now. Fuck

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Always five...

>> No.90446167 [DELETED] 

>>90446005
At this point Cover is probably paying her to not terminate her contract.

>> No.90446174 [DELETED] 

>graduated without brapping on stream
yet another tragedy

>> No.90446185 [DELETED] 

>>90446098
Children between fetus and 18 years old aren't allowed to post here.

>> No.90446188 [DELETED] 

Hololive really can't manage a five person generation, huh?
Anyway, yeah, seems like this might actually be the beginning of the end. I will stick around as long as I have my Nene and also Korone.

>> No.90446190 [DELETED] 

>>90446070
>no "brush teeth" on the timeline
THIS BITCHES BREATH STANKY

>> No.90446201 [DELETED] 

>>90446122
Ironmouse is basically the face of vtubing for normies right now, arguably more than Gura has been over the last couple years

>> No.90446206 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
>>>/jp/48332226 reporting in

>> No.90446214 [DELETED] 

>>90445926
It's also so Cover can keep piling out company-wide or gen specific merch with their faces on it. Purely corporate greed.

>> No.90446219 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Lap somehow not the first Holox to leave... ok

>> No.90446225 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
o7 stinky whorca. Wish her the best if she goes indie or does whatever else.

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>>90446126
Currently being mixed, it's apparently close to release

>> No.90446251 [DELETED] 

>>90446070
There's a reason Kronii hasn't really output anything over three years despite being relatively active.

>> No.90446254 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
BAKKU~ BAKKU~ BA-ACK!!!

>> No.90446256 [DELETED] 

>>90446149
I do wonder how much of a graduation backlog they've got right now.

>> No.90446265 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
It's interesting how they avoid the word graduation when it's basically what it is.

There's a lot of fanfare around one, since it's a bittersweet goodbye. This just seems like an ignominious end because it's just Cover keeping the IP alive like a zombie.

>> No.90446280 [DELETED] 

a bit sad she's leaving, she's very cute and quite memorable

>> No.90446294 [DELETED] 

>>90446047
Cover themselves confirmed this after this announcement, affiliate is just graduation

>> No.90446296 [DELETED] 

>>90446185
Semenbros we are in

>> No.90446309 [DELETED] 

>>90445747
Umisea...

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I know they said they aren't making a gacha game with the Holomems, but that was pre-public Cover. I wonder how long it'll take the new and improved, shareholder-controlled Cover to walk back on that promise.

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>>90445636
i'm gonna miss this stinky bitch

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>>90446148
/v/ reporting in.
My morning was going really good until this happened too, jeez.

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>>90445636

>> No.90446335 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/corpo/ represent

o7

>> No.90446352 [DELETED] 

>>90446201
I still have yet to see someone with Ironmouse merch in the wild anon
Gura is still the face of vtubing whether you like it or not

>> No.90446354 [DELETED] 

>>90446097
It was thanksgiving just yesterday, anon. I just learned about this 10 mins ago, too.
Give hangover jannies a break

>> No.90446356 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Another ungrateful bitch? It's not even been a year for chirst sake. Shouldn't have joined Hololive in the first place if she's gonna backstab them all like this.

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just kill me already, I love this stinky orca...

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time to go stinky whale fishing boys

>> No.90446368 [DELETED] 

>>90446265
The last 6 months quickly opened my eyes to how much of a shitter, money-hungry company Cover was. The insane increase in output of products and constant spamming to buy them, along with pushing talents way harder to shill has soured me quite a bit on what I liked as a whole for a long while.

>> No.90446379 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
>lazy
>actually schizophrenic
>whore
yeah, whatever. Model was hot though

>> No.90446380 [DELETED] 

>>90446312
What's wrong with that? It's free money.
>Nene will be A-rank
So?

>> No.90446382 [DELETED] 

In other sad news, all my Chloe streamables have been deleted as well

>> No.90446389 [DELETED] 

The curse of Orca

>> No.90446404 [DELETED] 

>Sticky
Fucking holofag mods, we were barely having threads about this shit, there's no reason for a sticky

>> No.90446405 [DELETED] 

>Ame invented affiliates
Her final legacy

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>>90446148
/∞/ reporting in

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>>90446256
Literally none? A backlog requires people actively graduating. They only had one, in April.

>> No.90446412 [DELETED] 

>>90445727
>>90445923
>>90446005
only nijinigger type like this

>> No.90446424 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
I don’t want Iroha to go…

>> No.90446425 [DELETED] 

What the fuck why are they turning into affiliates without a graduation ceremony

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>>90446133
I don't mommy to ever leave me...

>> No.90446429 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/HAHA/ reporting in. Shame, cute voice and incredibly hot model.

>> No.90446457 [DELETED] 

>>90446014
Would be a fair conclusion if your oshi doesn't stream regularly for no good reason
Not Gura though

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>> No.90446458 [DELETED] 

>>90446367
Nobody relevant on the JP side will ever join Vshojo. Be happy with Henya. That's the best you'll get.

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it's so fucking over

>> No.90446482 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Hahaahahahahahhahaha
One more in December

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DOWN
WITH
HOLOLIVE

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>>90446148
Sir, private /tingles/ reporting for duty, Sir!

>> No.90446523 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
I really hate the framing of calling a graduation an "affiliation" now. Its the same shit, except they can still sell merch of the IP.
You are not going to see another stream of them or read any funny tweet of them. It's all a charade to make shareholders happy.
What a disgrace.

>> No.90446525 [DELETED] 

here’s a rrat
why the fuck would brapper feel sad or be affected at all by chloe leaving? she wouldn’t. she’s sad because myth got news that gal goomba is gonna affiliate next.

>> No.90446534 [DELETED] 

>>90446455
cursed

>> No.90446559 [DELETED] 

>>90446352
iron mouse doesn't relase merchs for money. her main income is from taking 50% from those charity subathons she did every month or so

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>>90446148
/vn/ reporting in

>> No.90446569 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
So pretty much anyone that didn't participate in HoloGTA are more likely to leave.

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>>90445727
Oh no holokek!

>> No.90446601 [DELETED] 

>>90446534
Mikeneko is on hiatus too
This Orca guy is literally a menhera magnet

>> No.90446604 [DELETED] 

KWAB
Hololive taking Ls, imagine Gura graduating next

>> No.90446611 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/f1/ here
cars go vroom vroom
can't read moonrunes so I don't feel strongly about this one way or another

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>>90445636
not the orca...

i loved her doujins

>> No.90446613 [DELETED] 

Who's the next affiliate? Place your bets

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>you will live to see the end of Hololive Production
Strap your seatbelts in for next year. Gura is basically already confirmed.

>> No.90446637 [DELETED] 

I really wish all my other hobbies weren't killed so that vtubers are the only things standing between me and a gun barrel in my mouth, because it's not looking good

>> No.90446639 [DELETED] 

>>90446428
>doesn't do any voice packs
>refuses to do her own 3D live
>doesn't participate in any 3D lives anymore
>hates traveling to Japan
Brace yourself. This one might be the most surprising one for most people.

>> No.90446643 [DELETED] 

WHO IS TRULY SAFE? WHO IS A LIFER? KOYORI? FUBUKI? WHO ELSE?

>> No.90446648 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Korone's next btw.
She only joined to game and every other gamer is quitting.

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>>90446356
>>90446379
THE SYMPTOMS ARE STARTING!

>> No.90446675 [DELETED] 

>>90446613
Kiara is out as soon as she finds a rich cosplay gf

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Amidst of this sea of shitpost, I just want a moment of silence for our friend Orca who might be looking for a rope right now

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>>90446148
/NijiEN/ here

>> No.90446699 [DELETED] 

Well, it's been what, almost a decade for some of the girls? Over a Decade for others? They must be losing their interest or enjoyment by now.
I understand they might not want to do this anymore, it's grueling work.
Good god the day I lose Fubuki I'll just end it.

>> No.90446704 [DELETED] 

You guys realize she's not dying right? She's probably re-debuting in a month

>> No.90446706 [DELETED] 

>>90446455
Jesus, guy has the touch of death

>> No.90446715 [DELETED] 

>hololive antis doomposting
yawn

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>>90446148
/ciao/ reporting in

>> No.90446718 [DELETED] 

>>90446425
So they can come back if the behind the scenes problem is fixed.

>> No.90446721 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/wg/ standing by.

>> No.90446722 [DELETED] 

>>90446648
If this happens it's unironically over.

>> No.90446726 [DELETED] 

>>90446458
HOLOCOPE

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>>90445636
There can only be one whorca chubba

>> No.90446732 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/morig/ present 骨

>> No.90446738 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
When the character dies they're dead to me

>> No.90446752 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/zzz/ flopping in!

>> No.90446753 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/wAIfu/ rolling in I'm going to jerk off to Chloe today also because Chloe is my AIfu unironically

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>>90446425
>don't have to spend resources to make a graduation stream
>the fans aren't riled up as much
>no one would object to using the character's image or even skinwalking the chuuba again
>even the human behind the chuuba can come back if needed
>public image receives significantly less damage
All of this leading to
>investors are happier
As it stands, graduations don't bring a single benefit to the company. These "Afiiliations" and "Conclusions of streaming" are an objectively better deal.

>> No.90446766 [DELETED] 

>>90446685
eh, he deserves it, if only to learn a thing or two about himself

>> No.90446773 [DELETED] 

>>90445926
anon she is graduating on Jan 26, that is days before new year, they don't have to change it if she is in there

>> No.90446774 [DELETED] 

>>90446525
Nah, if it were true it would have been back when Kiara was getting all sad and introspective, but Mori was alright back then.

>> No.90446783 [DELETED] 

>>90446410
Is this some delusion posting that "affiliates" don't count? It's the same thing. And it's obvious that Cover is going to stagger it's graduations out by at least a month or two instead of losing 6 people in one go.

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>>90446148
/swarm/ reporting in. F for your chuuba. But if it's any consolation, she would probably be back under another persona sooner or later.

>> No.90446796 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
its not the same, its never the same

>> No.90446800 [DELETED] 

>GURA NEXT?!?
chumbuds how you holding up?
saplings? might be a good idea to archive their vods btw

>> No.90446804 [DELETED] 

>>90446455
>Loses his kamioshi
>Comes to terms with it
>Loses her as well
Lord have mercy.

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>>90445636
Okay, I'll bite.
Why is she leaving?

>> No.90446809 [DELETED] 

>>90446455
>>90446534
QRD?

>> No.90446820 [DELETED] 

Sorry if this is disregarding those who actually feel concerned about the "direction of Cover," but I don't get the feeling that anyone shitting on Cover right now actually cares about Hololive at all.

>> No.90446832 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
Except Sakuna (and maybe not!Mel), none of the redebutee has managed to keep their former images which people love so far

>> No.90446837 [DELETED] 

>>90446084
This but un-ironically.

>> No.90446843 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
if she comes back as an indie, it means she's just a snake

>> No.90446856 [DELETED] 

>>90446352
NTA but he is right in a way. You ask around, majority of the internet will tell you that mouse is the biggest vtuber in the world because tourists don't care about hololive or anyone outside of twitch. She also knows how to make connections so she gets paraded around everywhere as well as getting a sympathy boost for her illness.

>> No.90446865 [DELETED] 

>>90446820
>You can leave but we'll keep on making money over your lifeless corpse

>> No.90446867 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
I dont watch anyone outside hololive so yeah she's dead

>> No.90446868 [DELETED] 

>>90446425
It's easier for the company, and easier for the talents if they don't feel like embarking on an epic farewell tour. Expect to see more of this going forward.

>> No.90446870 [DELETED] 

>>90446809
>Rushia's biggest whale
>Rushia gets terminated
>Moves to Chloe
>Chloe graduates

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I joined her stream late, she's only talking about being grateful.
Has she mentioned a reason?

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>>90446765
So basically, Ame opened the floodgates.

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>>90446148
/pcg/ reporting.

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>>90446148
/warkop/, reporting in.

Oh, still 0 Hololive ID graduation, btw.

>> No.90446884 [DELETED] 

>>90446765
>he fans aren't riled up as much
>public image receives significantly less damage
These are not true.
>no one would object to using the character's image or even skinwalking the chuuba again

>> No.90446895 [DELETED] 

>>90446619
Why do you have a picture of two naked men on your pc Anon?

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>>90446765
>no one would object to using the character's image or even skinwalking the chuuba again

>> No.90446926 [DELETED] 

>>90446766
Can you blame him for oshi-ing Chloe, though? Rushia might've turned out to be a walking landmine, but Chloe has been relatively clean even to this date

>> No.90446933 [DELETED] 

>>90446873
too much work, throat hurt.

>> No.90446934 [DELETED] 

>>90446806
Changing company direction that doesn't align with what she wants to do. Overworked and constantly sick because of it.

>> No.90446940 [DELETED] 

>>90445991
murdered a talent in cold blood

>> No.90446942 [DELETED] 

>>90446619
(You) on the right

>> No.90446951 [DELETED] 

>>90446637
>killing yourself because a corpo is corpoing
Anon?

>> No.90446953 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
toasting in legendary bread

>> No.90446961 [DELETED] 

Postank in a stinky

>> No.90446969 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Damn, does every generation need to have one missing member?

>> No.90446973 [DELETED] 

>>90446895
Don't hide from the topic. She's going soon.

>> No.90446980 [DELETED] 

>>90446806
same reason as all the holos that left this year including a-chan chinese takeover and management losing their souls

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>>90446148
/big/ot here

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>reading all the anons' posts calling everyone idiots for thinking it'd be a graduation announcement
It never gets old.

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>>90446148
The Shiori Novella part 2 - Chapter a, Page qxyz reporting. Sad to lose a fellow monochrome chuuba.

>> No.90447018 [DELETED] 

>>90446214
Well, that's not true. Since Chloe/Ame/etc. will still get their usual cuts of the merch, it's not as though you're in a NijiEN sort of situation where they'll sell merch of you after you've graduated/been terminated without telling you. All "affiliation" is is leaving open a channel of communication between actions the corpo/other talents want to take which may involve you, to avoid the awkward Talent-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named situations.

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>>90446148
I've come from the distant lands of /tg/ and just wanted to say this kinda sucks.

>> No.90447023 [DELETED] 

>>90445975
>he's upset that more people care about this than his middling oshi

>> No.90447042 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/vsj+/ here. Condolences to her fans, I really liked her, her model was very hot.

>> No.90447049 [DELETED] 

YABBA DABBA DOOOOOO

>> No.90447062 [DELETED] 

>>90446806
>She just said she has found something she wants to pursue outside of Hololive, and that her goals started to diverge from what she can accomplish there. She also mentioned that the workload is overwhelming as she has been struggling with health issues and her health had deteriorated to the point where she required regular medical treatment and was constantly overwhelmed by the job. Her throat is also in a bad condition.
>She stated that managers tried to adjust the workload to her but it was personally exhausting. She actually mentioned that Cover was very supporting throughout her time there and is encouraging her future independent activities.
>Also this is more of an affiliation as she can supposedly come back, and she mentioned that even she doesn't really understand the terms and conditions.

>> No.90447068 [DELETED] 

If kuro-e then why red?

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>>90446820
Of course people who want to push the discorse are going to run with it. Doesn't change the fact that I'm genuinely disliking Cover's insane push of merch this year or the fact that multiple talents graduated to go elsewhere.

>> No.90447070 [DELETED] 

>>90446820
It's mostly Nijisisters just doing a victory lap to distract from the inevitable next graduation in December.

>> No.90447078 [DELETED] 

HER STATED REASONS FOR LEAVING:

1: The amount of work she's had to do has resulted in health issues with her throat, these issues have persisted even after adjustments.

2: A "difference in direction" with the company. (To me, this reads as her being more interested in streaming than of doing idol work, similar to Aqua and Ame).

It also seems like this is a similar arrangement as Ame where it's not an official full on graduation and she'll make re-appearances for certain occasions.

>> No.90447093 [DELETED] 

>>90446806
shes sick

>> No.90447099 [DELETED] 

>>90446934
We have Shion, Ayame, Gura and probably a few more that I'm not aware of. How are they overworked?

>> No.90447101 [DELETED] 

>>90446820
>try to raise a stink in the small hopes that someone in power will wake up
>NOOOOOOOO YOU'RE AN ANTI
>wait for things to calm down before raising the issue again
>LOL NIJINIGGER?! ANTI! ANTI!
>people stop talking about it and nothing gets resolved or changed

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>>90446425

>> No.90447125 [DELETED] 

>Watch Chloe's anniversary stream
>Super chats literally fucking everywhere

Yeah there's no fucking way she isn't coming back as an indie with a slightly different model in 2 months

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>>90446148
/mep/ reporting in

>> No.90447146 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
I'm gonna miss her big fat tits

>> No.90447157 [DELETED] 

>>90447049
YAGOO DAGOO DOOOO!

>> No.90447160 [DELETED] 

>>90447078
Let me refute her point:
>The amount of work she's had to do
Konkoyo
>more interested in streaming
Konkoyo

>> No.90447177 [DELETED] 

>>90447078
>You can leave but we'll keep on making money over your lifeless corpse
roru

>> No.90447178 [DELETED] 

>>90447018
>It's ok because the talent gets a small cut.
It's still weird as fuck to have someone who won't ever be streaming again on their own have merchandise sold with their face on it.

>> No.90447182 [DELETED] 

>>90447099
Don't ask stupid questions and use your brain, I guess. How many times have you repeated the same insipid comment?

>> No.90447188 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
This. graduations stop being sad once you realize they're coming back in 2 weeks.

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>>90446148
/uoh/ on stand by

>> No.90447245 [DELETED] 

sad gooning hours. at least her model will be immortalized through porn. still didnt think she would be the first holox to go.

>> No.90447254 [DELETED] 

>>90447160
Hopefully you're happy with her because at this rate, that's all Hololive will be.

>> No.90447262 [DELETED] 

>>90447078
>1: The amount of work she's had to do has resulted in health issues with her throat,
How come the others don't have this problem?
Unless she's a very good singer I don't see why they'd dump a lot of singing her way.

>> No.90447263 [DELETED] 

>>90446884
I mean, how many people were soothed by the promise that Ame might come back, compared to Aqua? It definitely softens the blow.
Though I think it's going to work maybe one or two more times before most of the fans catch on. It's like the media's euphemisms for joggers and youths, in a way.

>> No.90447271 [DELETED] 

Aww man, I thought the Chloe model was pretty.
Never knew her but sad to see her go

>> No.90447289 [DELETED] 

>>90447062
I guess it's the same as with Watson. Now that I've read the notice carefully it doesn't explicitly say graduation, just conclusion of regular activities.

>> No.90447296 [DELETED] 

>>90447160
>not everyone is the same
crazy

>> No.90447309 [DELETED] 

>>90447157
KEKAROOOO

>> No.90447317 [DELETED] 

>>90446820
>>90447070
This you?
>>90365651

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The fact that they put SHIORI as the "Shadow" Rep should tell you all you need to know about the shareholders.
They are probably /#/ fags with how little they watch streams

>> No.90447318 [DELETED] 

>>90447254
My point is her reason is crap.
Shion and Ayame is doing fine too, you can slack as much as you want in Hololive.

>> No.90447337 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
I swear I always get caught off guard by this stuff.

>> No.90447341 [DELETED] 

>>90447160
Just because koyori can do it doesn't mean everyone else can / has to. Your argument is really retarded

>> No.90447344 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
I'm gonna blow my brains out. Fuck this middle ground shit, should've realized Ame was setting a bad precedent

>> No.90447347 [DELETED] 

KANATAN AINT LEAVING RIGHT?

>> No.90447351 [DELETED] 

>>90447160
not everyone is a trooper like koyori

>> No.90447349 [DELETED] 

>>90447263
Well they threw that potential comfort under the bus by clarifying it
https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne3a8b7a553c0

>> No.90447353 [DELETED] 

>>90446675
So she'll remain in Holo forever since nobody with money would settle with her

>> No.90447357 [DELETED] 

Who's gonna stink up the place now?

>> No.90447364 [DELETED] 

>>90446380
>Nene will be A rank
Said someone who's never played a gacha game before. Idolm@ster doesn't have just one card for each girl. There are common, rare, and super rare variants and costumes for each idol.

>> No.90447369 [DELETED] 

Cope anon here. Apologies for calling out the graduation baiters.

>> No.90447377 [DELETED] 

What are the chances she goes full whore as an indie? She had a really lewd model and did goodish ASMR

>> No.90447378 [DELETED] 

Why doesn't Hololive just make a new branch just for gaming without the idol stuff?
They're gonna keep losing good talents this way.

>> No.90447387 [DELETED] 

>>90447318
>>90447341
>>90447351
>>90447296

>> No.90447389 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
I'm contractually obligated to hate her as soon as the blue doritos is out

>> No.90447391 [DELETED] 

>>90447318
I'm not going to argue with a moron. I'll just enjoy the graduation train.

>> No.90447402 [DELETED] 

>>90446455
Surely he will learn now that wasting your money on streamers is fucking retarded. He won't

>> No.90447403 [DELETED] 

>>90447319
Agreed, should have been Biboo as Shadow.
Also why the FUCK is Kronii tails and Irys Knuckles?

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Posting in an epic thread!

>> No.90447405 [DELETED] 

>>90447182
nice adhominems you got there bro

>> No.90447414 [DELETED] 

>>90447160
She is a freak don't compare her to humans

>> No.90447422 [DELETED] 

>>90447262
Marine has notoriously been having this problem for years, and others have complained a lot about their schedule affecting their throats.

>> No.90447431 [DELETED] 

>>90447071
>$10.99 for slightly better bitrates

>> No.90447460 [DELETED] 

>>90447318
>you can slack as much as you want in Hololive
Do you work there nigger?

>> No.90447467 [DELETED] 

>>90447351
>Trooper
Many of these bitches wouldn't survive a week in a real job where they would have to actually do something

>> No.90447468 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/pkg/ checking in. We're a bit busy dying ourselves right now.

>> No.90447515 [DELETED] 

>>90447078
For point 1. she specifically said that the amount of BTS work is too much

>> No.90447520 [DELETED] 

>>90447353
kiara is a millionaire, if not multi. all of myth is

>> No.90447526 [DELETED] 

Whats with that affiliated bullshit? They get affliliated, so that Cover can keep milking theim for money?

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>>90447378
a... gamer branch?

>> No.90447563 [DELETED] 

Why continue to shoot your golden geese like this? If your talent wants to be a lazy sack of shit and stream videogames daily then let them. You're still making money and shifting merch.

>> No.90447574 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
the rrats just keep on fleeing...

>> No.90447601 [DELETED] 

>>90447188
It doesn't make me sad, but it's still interesting. It's probably the same as how sportsfags feel when their players switch teams.

>> No.90447615 [DELETED] 

>>90446122
>vtubing dies when there's 0 Gura streams a year instead of 2
ogey

>> No.90447628 [DELETED] 

>Mio is dying
>go hospital and stop streaming for months
>still come back and start streaming again after she recovers
This is how you know when someone really care for their fanbase. Chloe is an asshole, she literally killed her own character because she is "sick".

>> No.90447647 [DELETED] 

Aloe started the curse of holo four

>> No.90447661 [DELETED] 

>>90447543
I just remembered that GAMERS exist, just dump them there, its not like Fubuki and Mio started as members.

>> No.90447670 [DELETED] 

Pekora just said on her stream "good riddance" basically.
But none of (You) knew that because nobody here speaks japanese...

>> No.90447672 [DELETED] 

can we establish the chubba to jav pipeline? especially kekson who already acts like and hangs out with jav actresses

>> No.90447677 [DELETED] 

>>90446163
I thought it was LaPlus who gonna graduate first.

>> No.90447680 [DELETED] 

>>90447526
Not necessarily, since they apparently won't keep making merch with Chloe. It's just so that the investors don't freak out when they realize the talent is leaving in droves.

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thread barely moves for sticky

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>>90447628
Mio is a hag, and sexo hags like Mio and Marine know what the other side looks like, and they don't want to go back. Ever.

>> No.90447708 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
As long as she still gets regular porn, who fucking cares?

>> No.90447721 [DELETED] 

>>90447160
>Konkoyo
The girl who has menhera breakdowns on Twitter every other day?

>> No.90447741 [DELETED] 

>>90447672
they don't have to graduate for it, just look at Matsuri and Noel

>> No.90447746 [DELETED] 

>>90446005
FuwaMoco are already replacing her.

>> No.90447748 [DELETED] 

>>90446122
You act like she hasn't already left.

>> No.90447750 [DELETED] 

>>90447078
Yeah I loved all the ame appearances so far

>> No.90447765 [DELETED] 

>>90447689
cause we already had a thread with actual discussion that didn’t get stickied

>> No.90447766 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
A substantial reason I enjoy the blue dorito talents is that they're forced to interact with each other on the regular in a structured manner. There are thousands of fuckoff indies I could watch if I were looking for a charismatic zatsuer - that's just not my thing. Indies will never be as fun to watch as corpo networks for me.

>> No.90447771 [DELETED] 

>>90447700
They love their fans and their character.
Chloe character is so hot, what a waste to kill it off like this.

>> No.90447777 [DELETED] 

>>90446884
>skingwalking
Imagine at every holofest you see all affiliates up on stage singing with the rest of the holos. But something is off with their dancing. All holos will get their solos or duets, but the affiliates only sing during large groups or songs that were previously already sung during holofest.

>> No.90447806 [DELETED] 

>>90447563
This is what I don't get. Is Jap buisness autism so bad they'll destroy zillions of yen of income because some middle manager or even yagoo thinks his super dooper special idea, that happens to have the side effect of massively overworking your talent, or pushes them out because this 'new direction' takes talent away from the streaming that 99% of their popularity is built around.
If i were a shareholder, I'd be on the phone asking yagoo what the fuck is going on that they keep losing talents because of decisions the company is making that go against what the talent want to do.

>> No.90447818 [DELETED] 

Don't understand japanese, always wondered why does Chloe get so many red SCs compared to Koyori and assumed she would never abandon that easy money. You know where I'm going with this...

>> No.90447838 [DELETED] 

>>90446685
Is this green woman's Orca?
The X account is different. Alt account?

>> No.90447840 [DELETED] 

It's telling how the sticky failed to reach bump limit in half an hour and there are no posts about Chloe's content. Nobody watched her here.

>> No.90447839 [DELETED] 

>holos keep dropping like flies
>hololive keeps pumping out irrelevant generation one after another
Not looking too bright for you holocucks, then again it's not a big loss really

>> No.90447843 [DELETED] 

>>90447741
but i mean like actual jav debut, ponos in vagoo. not soft core shit. god I wanna see kson get railed

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People still don't realize Hololive is going through enshittification and dying?

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>>90446148
/JAV/ reporting here sirs.
currently looking for good Chloe cosplay titles for tribute

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>>90447078
>similar to Aqua
Retard

>> No.90447877 [DELETED] 

>>90445727
HOLOSEETHE

>> No.90447901 [DELETED] 

>>90447839
>irrelevant generation
Except the last JP one, the others are doing pretty good and their characters stick.

>> No.90447914 [DELETED] 

>>90447563
the weird thing is they clearly let some girls like ayame and shion do exactly that. I guess cover literally says "you can stream once a year or fucking never for all we care as long as you show up for the concerts when asked" although I wonder how that computes with aqua who specifically focused on the idol aspect.

>> No.90447924 [DELETED] 

Will her VoDs be deleted?

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You now realize that Dev_is (2023) is some sort of a passing of the torch from pre-publically traded era Hololive to the current shareholder hellscape Hololive. This is what they have to show for it. Fyi Chloe managed to rake 10 million Japanese dollars worth of superchats alone. Their debut month viewership is also significantly worse in comparison to debut month holox. Literal enshittification.

>> No.90447930 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
ITS
NOT
THE
SAME
Its like saying "oh your anime ended its run it's okay best girl's voice actor is in this other show"
NO

>> No.90447933 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/nikg/ tourist
I know some of you fuckers are here

>> No.90447938 [DELETED] 

>>90447078
cover is giving up on game streaming because of their own perms bullshit

>> No.90447939 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
the ghosts got her, bros...

>> No.90447945 [DELETED] 

>>90447563
>>90447806
It's Chloe who wanted out because she's lazy. Cover convinced her to not graduate fully because in a year or two she might grow up and realize she'll never get a job as good as in Hololive.

>> No.90447954 [DELETED] 

>>90446881
Their country is too poor for them to ever find another job and they don’t have enough fans to make it as indies lol

>> No.90447959 [DELETED] 

>>90447319
She doesn't even like Sonic games, she only played Frontiers (and was the only holo to complete it + dlc on easy mode) because her friend gifted it to her, she's another 'likes Shadow for reasons I don't understand' "fan".

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>>90446148
/mint/ reporting in. There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world, and it will be a shame to lose Chloe's.

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>>90446148
/watamelon/ here

>> No.90447991 [DELETED] 

>>90447924
No because it's not a full graduation (see Ame)

>> No.90448000 [DELETED] 

>>90447840
Welcome to the EN board filled with mostly ESLs.

>> No.90448009 [DELETED] 

>>90445985
Twi

>> No.90448017 [DELETED] 

We smellfags always suffer for our crimes

>> No.90448015 [DELETED] 

>>90447766
this, sticking with an indie is like having the same meal every day. even if it's a very good meal few people are going to be excited about it for more than a year, two years. good corpo collabs are like having a full course meal or various side-dishes day to day.

>> No.90448032 [DELETED] 

>>90446806
she's joining Manchester United

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>>90446969
Hololive shan't be outdone by Nijisanji in any metric

>> No.90448041 [DELETED] 

>>90446699
Fubuki wouldn't want that, anon. Take care of yourself

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>the graduation queu is real

>> No.90448043 [DELETED] 

>>90445727
Sakamata was literally one of their biggest talents. Basically new-gen Aqua.

>> No.90448050 [DELETED] 

>>90447849
you bloody benchod

>> No.90448054 [DELETED] 

>>90447078
I am curious what's going on with cover that's causing a sudden influx of graduations this year

>> No.90448065 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
You know she's only good because she's in Hololive right? She's not gonna be a part of Holo anymore if she reincarnates, at best she's gonna be no different from other boring indies, at worst she's gonna become a cheap whore like Kson.

>> No.90448068 [DELETED] 

>>90447843
well for Kson maybe, i wouldn't want to see Noel doing that, but that might just be the early stage gachikoi simptoms speaking

>> No.90448070 [DELETED] 

>>90447929
I do admit that they dropped the ball with this generation, they really don't stand out that much.

>> No.90448071 [DELETED] 

>Holosummer gone without explanation
>Hololive marika gone
>Hololive Sports Festival gone
>studio still not fully functional or is poorly managed because 3D lives are still constantly delayed
Bury your head in the sand. Throw Kuroe under the bus for being lazy or whatever.

>> No.90448079 [DELETED] 

>>90447929
the vtuber market is oversaturated now
it has nothing to do with shareholder or whatever boogeyman you are cooking here

>> No.90448102 [DELETED] 

>>90447901
2 of the latest jp gens barely break numbers and are literal whos in the vtuber scene.
Latest ENgen also barely is making do.

>> No.90448107 [DELETED] 

well fuck, now that's sad, HoloX might as well not even exist now, she had the best design, persona and quirk in her whole gen

>> No.90448108 [DELETED] 

>>90447840
late sticky, this is this is actually the 2nd thread.
here is the first >>90440227

>> No.90448110 [DELETED] 

>>90447930
How is that similiar? The voice actor will play a different character with a different script but chloe will still be chloe since she's just being herself

>> No.90448127 [DELETED] 

>>90448044
based jerry

>> No.90448133 [DELETED] 

>>90447930
It's not the same as voice actors voicing different characters. Vtubers have their own personality that carries over and there is no script.

>> No.90448151 [DELETED] 

>>90447777
The more affiliates Cover creates, the more ludicrous it gets. Imagine when 25% of performers are just skinwalking dead talents. That's not even bashing Cover, just once they've started down this road it becomes inevitable.

>> No.90448154 [DELETED] 

>>90448037
Holy shit, even the new ones are doing the ritual?

>> No.90448160 [DELETED] 

>>90448110
Then why not flesh tube at that point?

>> No.90448161 [DELETED] 

>>90448102
>>90448079

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>>90448044
>queu

>> No.90448180 [DELETED] 

>Throat fucked from stress and idol work
>Can't juggle recordings with streaming
>Rich enough to survive with whoever tags along in her next life/PL streams (if she even does them cause again, fucked up throat
>SEANiggers and antis still use this as evidence of le black company cause they are antis and shit stirrers
This board is worthless trash

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>>90445636
One graduation per month
Do you rike it?

>> No.90448192 [DELETED] 

>>90448071
Risu's NNN was also axed and she said they specifically don't want stuff like that anymore, although because it's Risu people just kind of went "eh whatever it was a stupid played out joke anyway" which is right, but still indicates cover has hugely changed underneath some way where something that had been going for several years and wasn't really harmful but just a little lewd, got cut out.

>> No.90448211 [DELETED] 

>>90448108
I know, doesn't really change my point. /baubau/ can do more posts than that thread and this sticky combined in half the time.

>> No.90448216 [DELETED] 

>>90448180
>Throat fucked from stress and idol work
Laplus.
You are worthless trash take your shitpost back to /pol/

>> No.90448217 [DELETED] 

>>90448079
It's a Hololive problem though

>> No.90448227 [DELETED] 

>>90445727
I fucking hate you retards
there's something clearly going on at cover when they bend over for investors and let the girls go like this
we can meme how only irrelevant people and bitches leave but that won't change the fact that more and more of the girls seem dissatisfied

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>>90446148
/dg/ - Destiny General on /vg/ reporting in

>Captcha: HAGG

>> No.90448237 [DELETED] 

>>90448070
kogane niko is top tier

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>>90447840
Cover paid the jannies /here/ to delay the sticky and suppress doomposting. No, I will not elaborrate further.

>> No.90448242 [DELETED] 

>>90446523
Affiliation is more insidious than what most other vtuber companies have, and yet this board has praised it and called it "innovative".

>> No.90448244 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
holotards are... well, tards

>> No.90448255 [DELETED] 

>>90446806
Health issues making it much harder to handle the workload + found an unnamed pursuit that she wants to fully commit to

>> No.90448259 [DELETED] 

>>90448079
That's like saying youtubers are oversaturated, even if its the same content as long as the person doing it is interesting people will flock to them.

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>>90446148

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>>90448180
She literally cited change in workplace direction as a reason but keep coping Holodrone.

>> No.90448268 [DELETED] 

>>90446312
When did they say this? I'll be very surprised if any corpo essentially say that "We won't be do <X> that can earn us lots of money".
Not to mention gacha is perfectly accepted in JP so "aren't making a gacha game with Holomem (ever)" wouldn't even make sense from moral point

>> No.90448271 [DELETED] 

I'll miss her, but I'll miss how sex her outfit was too

>> No.90448284 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
ao that is reason why they deputed that new lookalike

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>>90446148
/grün/ reporting in

>> No.90448288 [DELETED] 

I unno why this is pinned who gives a fuck but /HiRyS/ loves Kronii Bae Mumei and Fauna

>> No.90448293 [DELETED] 

>>90448259
everyone is flocking to mr beast and interesting youtuber dies and left because the algo is rigged

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Mods can't even afford their own ads
Actual sad news

>> No.90448303 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/pol/ and /osrs/ on /vg/ here
I literally closed runescape to read threads here more closely

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>>90448241
yet they're allowing a bunch of bait threads to stay up.

>> No.90448313 [DELETED] 

>>90447806
Tanigou doesn't give a shit about streaming or gaming or whatever. He's always wanted his own idol company, his own AKB48. Streaming games just happened to be a convenient stepping stone for his goal

>> No.90448315 [DELETED] 

>>90446704
She has two months left in Holo actually

>> No.90448322 [DELETED] 

>>90448264
>She said it so it must be true
Riiiiiight

>> No.90448324 [DELETED] 

Damn shame. Her models tits were absolutely perfect. Not too big, not too small. On display but not outrageously so. Whoever did the rigging gave them an absolutely perfect amount of weight. They swayed with movement with just the right amount of delay, like they had some significant heft but still jiggled. Too many vtubers go nuts on the jiggle like you're slapping jello, but Chloes breasts moved like great soft orbs shifting behind cloth.

>> No.90448337 [DELETED] 

>>90446016
nice to see at least one good chuuba in a Chloe post!

>> No.90448341 [DELETED] 

>>90447849
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3645106
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3716765

>> No.90448344 [DELETED] 

>>90448180
>cause they are antis
Why the fuck is Hololive itself your oshi? Freak.

>> No.90448359 [DELETED] 

>>90448313
Yeah and that's why he sabotaged and let go of his best idol.

>> No.90448369 [DELETED] 

>idol work
why don't just hire random dancer to do the 3D work and the holo put the voice?

>> No.90448375 [DELETED] 

>>90448312
The one on the far right was already deleted once.

>> No.90448377 [DELETED] 

>>90448180
Even if she continues streaming the track record with every single Hololive graduation so far has been that the streams without the Hololive magic suck ass. She will be joining the ranks of pathetic has-beens like Kson, Dooby and Sakuna now.

>> No.90448396 [DELETED] 

>>90446773
dude chinese new year is not used in most of other countries, she stops after new year not before

>> No.90448397 [DELETED] 

Blood in the water

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>>90446148
/v4m/ reporting for duty

>> No.90448410 [DELETED] 

>>90448079
It won't be saturated for long when we keep this graduation pace in 2025

>> No.90448425 [DELETED] 

>>90448344
>Thinks all this shit stirring isn't a veiled way to anti the actual talents themselves
DYRBI?

>> No.90448429 [DELETED] 

>>90446201
lmfao, nobody watches twitch you stupid fuck. call me when ironmouse has a million subs on youtube, its the only relevant platform

>> No.90448438 [DELETED] 

>>90448070
It depends on the collabs and the clips they generate. ReGloss took a while to establish their niches where some like Ao and Raden found it easy, while others like Kanade got her chance with HoloGTA

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I always hated chloe's saggy tits

>> No.90448458 [DELETED] 

>>90448264
In this case it was much more of a change in her direction (found a new passion she wants to pursue) plus her health issues making the workload harder to handle. She specifically praised Cover for being supportive of her

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>>90446704
Chloe is my favorite vtuber design though...

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>>90446148
/lig/ checking in

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This is sad and all but at least post sexy orca, she had one of the hottest models in hololive goddamn.

>>90448449
low test.

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>>90448425
Meds.

>> No.90448500 [DELETED] 

>>90446312
They're already wasting money on HoloEarth, a simple gacha game would be baby steps compared to that.

>> No.90448506 [DELETED] 

>>90448192
>Risu's NNN was also axed and she said they specifically don't want stuff like that anymore
Didn't know that since Risu usually relays important information in indonesian, all I heard about it from her in english was she didn't want to do it anymore not that cover is being a bipolar prude. I want to say cover should know that you can let some of your talents be the make viewers erect holo but above already mentions how retarded JP corps can be, anime is a great example of that with the frequent manga to anime censorship.

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>>90448180
nobody mentioned "black company" until you showed up but any kind of criticism is too much for a holodrone like you it seems, even when more talents leave than ever.

>> No.90448526 [DELETED] 

>>90448410
chloe is going re-debut with a different skin and she will notice that she is earning less and she will graduate again the market will always be saturated thanks to these dumb whores

>> No.90448530 [DELETED] 

>>90448065
Ok, but the individual talents don't give a shit about any of that. Any one of them can graduate and be basically set for life streaming to a smaller audience on a more relaxed pace. If they're unhappy with Cover for any reason there's no real reason for them to stay, as more talents begin to realize this the more of them will leave over time.

>> No.90448538 [DELETED] 

>>90448242
Because in their mind, Cover can do no wrong and anyone who claims otherwise is an anti trying to deflect from Niji/Phase/literally anyone else.

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>>90445636
>Nijisanji only loses irrelevant bottom of the barrel shitters
>holo loses its biggest stars
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.90448545 [DELETED] 

>>90448227
HOLOSEETHE

>> No.90448553 [DELETED] 

>>90448458
Tell me more anon I could use the hope.

>> No.90448557 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
The worst part of graduations is all the retards coming out of nowhere to pitybait how "sad" and "heartbroken" they are when they probably never watched a single stream

>> No.90448577 [DELETED] 

>>90448438
I literally cannot separate Ao from Ange, they're just too similar.

>> No.90448584 [DELETED] 

Personally I blame Aqua for showing the JPs that you can quit your holojob, do less work, and still keep your fanbase and without a corporate cut too

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>>90448542
wosemi pls…

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>>90447670

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>>90448438
regloss only established a 'niche' when they were whipped until they begged for subs and endlessly shilled by everyone until they dragged themselves out of the shitter. no one cared about them, and all they have are pity subs to this day

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>>90447404

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>>90446148
/eienx/ here. It's not the year for orcas.

>> No.90448627 [DELETED] 

I remember a while back, shareholders kept asking why they didn't release merch of graduated members. Yagoo was smart enough to tell them to fuck off but I guess they got too powerful and now we have affiliates.

>> No.90448632 [DELETED] 

>>90448542
Rosemi is still alive?
WTF

>> No.90448636 [DELETED] 

>>90448584
Based Sakana

>> No.90448645 [DELETED] 

>>90448542
Honestly out of everyone from her group I found her the less interesting.

>> No.90448653 [DELETED] 

Remember Umisea?

>> No.90448656 [DELETED] 

Literally who?

>> No.90448666 [DELETED] 

>>90447378
hello newfag

>> No.90448667 [DELETED] 

>>90446380
Or they could copy HoloParade where every holomem is SSR-rank, while the lower rarities are filled by their mascots.

>> No.90448668 [DELETED] 

>>90448506
because she didn't, the reason she stopped is because she ran out of ideas for NNN and the joke was getting stale, not because corporate stopped her

>> No.90448674 [DELETED] 

>>90448542
>Pomu
>Selen
>irrelevant

>> No.90448677 [DELETED] 

>>90448616
The other sex orca design...

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>>90447289
Anon, conclusion of regular activities is graduation
https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne3a8b7a553c0

>> No.90448686 [DELETED] 

(BREAKING NEWS: ORCA DONATED 5 AKASUPA LIVE)
She is reset-ing her life topkek!
POCHI!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxOjRtMv3Cg

>> No.90448700 [DELETED] 

>>90448506
>>90448668
see also okayu's recent stuff, as a general rule cover only stops holos from doing stuff if youtube stars breathing down their necks

>> No.90448705 [DELETED] 

>>90448242
Is it not? Is an entirely new way to keep the character alive while letting the person behind it go not novel enough?
Please note: innovative does not necessarily mean good for the CONSUMER

>> No.90448712 [DELETED] 

>>90448344
Maybe because he actually watched and listened to the girls
Hard concepts to comprehend, I know

>> No.90448718 [DELETED] 

>>90447929
Bruh, those are like niji tier numbers, shit, those literally whos JP Niji probably make way more money than these girls in their first monetization streams.

>> No.90448722 [DELETED] 

>>90448680
Its not a full graduation if thrre is still afilliation.
Aqua and Coco had a full graduation

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>>90448674
Correct, good to see we are on the same page

>> No.90448725 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
>yet another holo graduation for 2024
Grim

>> No.90448737 [DELETED] 

>>90448584
Aqua is martin luther king confirmed

>> No.90448752 [DELETED] 

BREAKIGNNEWS:
ORCA DONATED ANOTHER AKASUPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQtN_RWYukM

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>>90446148
/CBDCT/ here, don't care. Another whore gone is always a good thing especially after how you fags treated Gamma.

>> No.90448758 [DELETED] 

>>90448674
I think the word she's looking for is "negligible."

>> No.90448775 [DELETED] 

Pretty unexpected. She's not a particularly great person so she wont be missed by me.

>> No.90448792 [DELETED] 

>>90448712
Like the girls talking about Hololive going in a bad / weird way after their IPO? Did he listen to those girls?

>> No.90448815 [DELETED] 

>>90446934
Overworked? When there are holos like koyori who constantly streams despite doing a lot of offstream work.

>> No.90448836 [DELETED] 

>>90448584
Too soon to say. Going to need to see how she's doing in a year.

>> No.90448845 [DELETED] 

>>90448815
Or she can just be like Laplus and do what she wants. Laplus has throat problem too.

>> No.90448864 [DELETED] 

>>90447838
That's Orca's alt account for Chloe-focused posts, yeah
>沙花叉クロヱ専用アカウントです(。ᴗ。)

>> No.90448871 [DELETED] 

>>90447404
Is this what they call "karma"?

>> No.90448896 [DELETED] 

>>90448722
All that affiliation means is that she'll get merch on occasion, she's already confirmed she has no interest in coming back even for one time special events

>> No.90448898 [DELETED] 

>>90448815
At this rate, she'll be the only one left in Hololive then.

>> No.90448900 [DELETED] 

>>90448864
This orca dude a millionaire?

>> No.90448917 [DELETED] 

>>90448815
I'm sure koyori would call you a retard for using her against her genmate

>> No.90448923 [DELETED] 

2021/2022 cover begun to really push for the idol stuff when it comes to recordings and behind the scenes-work related to it. A lot of holos who debutes at that time or befor that seem to have problems with the way cover wants them to focus on idol related things. It might be better to dial this shit back for a bit or more members could get filtered. I dont really see this problem in newer gens who pretty much knew what they were getting into.

>> No.90448928 [DELETED] 

Dooki ruined vtubing

>> No.90448940 [DELETED] 

>>90448815
>Overworked?
Everyone's definition of this is individual. Vtubing is full of menhera girls who aren't capable of working a 9-to-5, so they may very well be overworked, stretching their limits.

>> No.90448943 [DELETED] 

>>90448755
>Gamma
literally who?

>> No.90448952 [DELETED] 

>>90448864
Yeah, I just found it on X. It's him.
Is he cursed? His oshi keeps graduating.

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>>90447404
Literally Who?

>> No.90448964 [DELETED] 

>>90448722
Affiliation is just a way for them to not cull any ongoing projects the talent was already involved in. After those come out, the vtuber is dead. Don't expect the actual person to return.

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>>90448584
didn't they figure this out with kson? when she first quit and rebirthed after taking account the lack of a cut for cover she was making the same money.

>> No.90448998 [DELETED] 

>>90446806
PREGNANT

>> No.90449002 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
She had such a strong debut, then disappeared because of le ghost in da house and I completely lost interest on her.

>> No.90449009 [DELETED] 

>jp
>en
>jp
I guess it's another en for December

>> No.90449011 [DELETED] 

>>90448923
it has nothing to do with idol
the permission thing is what fucked up the vtubers

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>>90446455
Orca....
who should he go to next? surely a small indie to groom instead of another Holo

>> No.90449020 [DELETED] 

RIP

>> No.90449025 [DELETED] 

>>90448792
None of the girl, including graduated, has ever attacked Hololive directly or indirectly yet. Chloe mentioned just now that the management was very supportive and tried to help her.
Having different directions isn't something inherently wrong. There are girls who will be happy with that and girls who won't. It's sad, but those who can't cope with it will eventually leave - it can't be helped and it's neither side's fault. It's not like they were mistreated or intentionally pushed out

>> No.90449029 [DELETED] 

No..........

>> No.90449036 [DELETED] 

>>90446251
If that results in her staying for longer then its a good deal

>> No.90449039 [DELETED] 

>>90448923
eh, gen 0, 1, and 3 have no issues with the current direction of cover and those are all pre 2020 debuts
People like to state this a lot but there's only ever been 3 graduates over "differences in company direction", four if you count coco

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Why is every second hololive member fucked up in some way? Constant surgeries, throat issues, back issues, mental issue, etc etc etc

It's too high for statistical probability.

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>>90448836
Bro, even Mikeneko after years of self sabotage still makes enough money to keep streaming. Short of like actually killing a man live on stream and probably not even then, it's almost impossible to "fail" as a streamer once you get big.

You can shrink, sure, but the ground floor of how many viewers you need to continue on as a full-time streamer is so low that it never really matters in the end.

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>>90448967
the keyword is was, if Sakuna also follows that trend along with dooby then its literally a bad idea money wise.

>> No.90449075 [DELETED] 

>>90449018
probably someone from dev_is

>> No.90449084 [DELETED] 

>>90449045
singing is bad for your throat
the more you know

>> No.90449086 [DELETED] 

>>90447818
Rich and intelligence are not linked. Multiple studies showed this.

>> No.90449104 [DELETED] 

>>90447341
>>90447351
Koyori is older than chloe. Around 10 years. It's the same with Aqua. These younger ones just can't handle work.

>> No.90449107 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/sumo/ here

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>>90446148
/brg/ reporting in, welcome to the battle royale

>> No.90449117 [DELETED] 

What changed in the last year or so at Cover to cause all these graduations?

>> No.90449119 [DELETED] 

>>90449084
Could someone smart please reply?

>> No.90449122 [DELETED] 

>>90447677
People said the same thing about Mori and yet look at her now

>> No.90449129 [DELETED] 

>>90448584
>NOOO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A DISRESPECTED, RIRED OUT CORPO SLAVE REEEEEEE I BLAME YOU AKWAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.90449130 [DELETED] 

>>90449009
yeah
gal goomba. nice little Christmas present for cumbuds

>> No.90449132 [DELETED] 

>>90449086
Chloe won the lottery and got the best design in holox

>> No.90449135 [DELETED] 

>>90448967
Every former Hololive talent that quits and continues to rake in money just reinforces the trend. You can call it a fluke if it's just 1 or 2 talents, but if everyone is fine, than there's not much reason to be overly concerned.

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>>90446148
/nijien/ CHAD reporting in, I am here to laugh at holokekis

>> No.90449159 [DELETED] 

>>90445727
fpbp

>> No.90449161 [DELETED] 

>>90449025
>has ever attacked Hololive directly or indirectly yet.
What are you, autistic? Of course they don't directly attack their employer. Not only are they Japanese, the act of publicly lambasting your employer will ensure nobody wants to touch you as an employee ever again, because they could be next. Demanding a public attack on your employer as a sign that things are going wrong is outright ludicrous.
>Chloe mentioned just now that the management was very supportive and tried to help her.
The management is not the company. The management is the tard-wranglers hired to keep the menhera girls in check.

>>90449045
Healthy, sane individuals don't want to become vtubers.

>> No.90449165 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
TWO MORE WEEKS

>> No.90449164 [DELETED] 

Kronii showed their schedules. The image can be used in dictionaries as an antonym for "overworked".

>> No.90449173 [DELETED] 

>>90448449
Agreed.

>> No.90449176 [DELETED] 

>>90449018
If he wants risky option (with possible high return), DEV_IS's Riona (her design somewhat resembles Chloe, too)
If he wants safe option, go for someone like Lamy

>> No.90449177 [DELETED] 

You know that she can quit whenever she likes right?
There doesn't need to be a specific reason.

>> No.90449182 [DELETED] 

>>90449129
They owe literally everything they have to Cover and repaying them by bailing out of their obligations paints them in a very ugly light

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>>90446201
Hahahahahhahahahahha

Oh wait you are serious?, HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>90446148
towa
im still processing

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>>90449011
Yeah this also makes a lot of things a pain to deal with i assume.
>>90449039
>only 3
You are right but its still 3, which is a lot for holo (not for niji kek)

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>>90448557

>> No.90449237 [DELETED] 

>>90446727
>Shylily wins the orca bowl
>Cloe redebuts in 2 more weeks as an indie
Total /lig/ger victory

>> No.90449240 [DELETED] 

>>90449212
sure but to hear the way people spin it it's like the entire roster hates cover's new direction now

>> No.90449242 [DELETED] 

>>90449117
They cancel all the personal projects without a good reason and no compensation for the losses.
For every new cover you see being released, at least 3 were cancelled beforehand after being initially approved by the company

>> No.90449249 [DELETED] 

>>90449045
many of those are cover stories, remember the sana backhort thing. are they all fake news? I dunno, probably not, but enough of it is that I generally half-assume it's not legit.

>> No.90449252 [DELETED] 

>>90449164
you mean her schedule

>> No.90449254 [DELETED] 

>>90448923
Idol stuff my ass where is all that idol stuff? They cut 3d lives, holofest was shit, they act like whores, where?

>> No.90449274 [DELETED] 

>>90446706
what do if he picks my oshi next?

>> No.90449280 [DELETED] 

>>90448928
Truth. And also the community for going ape shit about every little thing.

>> No.90449282 [DELETED] 

>>90449161
>Not only are they Japanese
That never stopped ex-Niji from throwing all sorts of shades at Niji
>Demanding a public attack on your employer as a sign that things are going wrong is outright ludicrous.
Not more ridiculous than assuming that Hololive was in the wrong even though the girls didn't say it and even thanked Hololive / the management

>> No.90449302 [DELETED] 

>>90449182
Are you japanese? Stop being a bootlicking faggot.

>> No.90449304 [DELETED] 

>>90449252
Respect their pronouns!

>> No.90449308 [DELETED] 

>>90449177
You know that people can just drive off of a bridge right? There doesn't need to be a specific reason.

>> No.90449312 [DELETED] 

Why is it weird to graduate 2-3 a year? The alternative is oversaturating your own company to the point your talents eat each other

>> No.90449315 [DELETED] 

>>90449249
>, remember the sana backhort thing.
No, elaborate.

>> No.90449328 [DELETED] 

>>90448923
Yeah cut back what's make Holo great and make them Niji2, great idea. Push Holostars too while you're at it.

>> No.90449336 [DELETED] 

>>90449252
I mean the average schedule of every Hololive member.

>> No.90449340 [DELETED] 

>>90448032
>Ten Haag out
>Sakamata in
Good trade

>> No.90449348 [DELETED] 

At this point I believe there's a bunch more girls waiting to leave and Cover is just staggering the graduations

>> No.90449360 [DELETED] 

>>90448341
godspeed anon

>> No.90449371 [DELETED] 

>>90449312
Hololive is not oversaturated at all.

>> No.90449373 [DELETED] 

>>90449312
ahh yes im so glad we got aqua and chloe out so we can have flowglow totally worth it

>> No.90449385 [DELETED] 

>>90449282
>That never stopped ex-Niji from throwing all sorts of shades at Niji
Oh, I get it. You're one of those console war types who just wants to fling shit at the *other side* and pretend like you're taking part in something meaningful; like you're part of something bigger than yourself.

>> No.90449395 [DELETED] 

>>90449373
this but unironically

>> No.90449406 [DELETED] 

>>90446806
Corpomonkeys wanted her to do corpo stuffs

>> No.90449413 [DELETED] 

>>90449182
Ogey Cover intern I almost chuckled. You and your talentless, leeching coworkers would be jobless if not for Aqua making this good-for-nothing company famous by pouring her time and talent into it. Sit the fuck down you ungrateful, lazy fuck.

>> No.90449415 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Cover should stop this corporate bullshit talk to soften the impact of what it really is; a GRADUATION.
Honestly they look more scurrilous using any other term than the truly appropriate one.

>> No.90449417 [DELETED] 

>>90449312
>The alternative is oversaturating your own company

just stop debuting new ones

>> No.90449424 [DELETED] 

>>90449348
>graduation queue
Very grim.

>> No.90449427 [DELETED] 

>>90446753
Link to good chloe card?

>> No.90449437 [DELETED] 

>>90446201
No one cares about twitch shit, moron. It doesn't exist for normies.

>> No.90449438 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/@/ here, i'm sad now

>> No.90449456 [DELETED] 

Idols' shelf life is around 2-4 years. Expect more graduations from Holo from now on especially from the mid-tier girls (top girls make too much to quit while bottom girls would lose too much)

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>> No.90449473 [DELETED] 

>Has one of the hottest bodies
>Has one of the nicest voices
>Is actually a great singer
>Is also a goofy idiot

Man.

>> No.90449489 [DELETED] 

>>90448180
Watch streams you retarded holodrone

>> No.90449495 [DELETED] 

xd

>> No.90449502 [DELETED] 

>>90448627
Shareholders should be flayed and their skin displayed at holofes as a warning

>> No.90449503 [DELETED] 

>>90447262
some people have naturally weaker vocal chords. I fucked up mine doing something that really shouldn't have been that bad and have been in voice therapy for months.

>> No.90449510 [DELETED] 

>>90449348
pretty much everyone whos not interested in idol shit is queueing up to quit

>> No.90449517 [DELETED] 

>>90449417
Graduation is scaring the shareholders
If they can't guarantee their massive investments will even stay, then it's safer to go for quantity over quality
Same thing happened to the vidya game industry, music too I think

>> No.90449522 [DELETED] 

Has Chloe done membership ASMRs? I'll probably be membering and archiving now, I guess. Didn't think I'd have to do this a third time.

>> No.90449546 [DELETED] 

>>90449456
you have it backwards though, the ones who've quit so far are all the ones who have made bank and can afford to coast for the rest of their days

>> No.90449552 [DELETED] 

She's gonna come back just like how all the other girls 'graduated'. Only retarded Holodrones are sad about this because they're fans of the company instead of the girls themselves, no blue dorito, no watch.

>> No.90449558 [DELETED] 

Nobody will care in 3 days and the false flagging apes will stop soon since the brown niggers penoys are going to sleep now

>> No.90449572 [DELETED] 

>>90449315
>join hololive
>have to do idolshit 24/7, don't like it
>quit
>have to say it's because back horty to not tarnish hololive's reputation

>> No.90449573 [DELETED] 

>>90446856
twitch is a bubble normal people wouldn't recognize most of their top streams period let alone niche ones. The most recognizable ones are either famous for drama/lolcow shit or just do react content like Asmon.

>> No.90449606 [DELETED] 

>>90448723
Niji EN is a joke lol

>> No.90449615 [DELETED] 

>>90446455
>>90446534
>>90446706
>>90446804
Y'know, thinking about this guy was my first thought after seeing this announcement. I really wonder how he must be been feeling now. His first oshi was terminated and then he slowly moved on to another one just for her to graduate.

>> No.90449627 [DELETED] 

>>90449385
No, I prefer facts and proofs than making random assumptions and accusations.
Heck, if you think using ex-Nijis as examples is too "tribalistic" (only used them because /vt/ is likely used to them), I can bring up ex-Johnny and ex-AKB, too if you can recognize them.
Point is, being Japanese never stopped people from calling their ex-work place shit if there was something they truly were unhappy with (more so in the entertainment scene with the ex-something turning into indies). Don't see why Hololive would be an exception

>> No.90449666 [DELETED] 

>>90449340
>bald Chloe

>> No.90449681 [DELETED] 

>>90448755
And?

>> No.90449703 [DELETED] 

>>90449627
It's too late to pretend now.

>> No.90449715 [DELETED] 

I honestly think there might be a graduation queue of sorts and Gura is likely there together with Shion and perhaps Ayame.

>> No.90449732 [DELETED] 

I can't be the only one surprised that the first one to drop from HoloX wasn't La+

>> No.90449743 [DELETED] 

>>90448032
Waiting to hear Gary Neville's opinion on this

>> No.90449761 [DELETED] 

>>90449546
Every Holos make bank, including the runts, anon. As long as someone remains in Holo for 2-3 years, she will likely make enough to coast for decades. Even RBC was able to buy a house in Tokyo Metropolitan, remember?

>> No.90449766 [DELETED] 

I know Niji EN is pretty bad but what about JP?
They they quit as frequently as Hololive?

>> No.90449782 [DELETED] 

>>90449732
La+ has the cunny buff

>> No.90449788 [DELETED] 

>>90449715
Don't forget Ina and Mio

>> No.90449801 [DELETED] 

>>90449732
Me too >>90447677

>> No.90449826 [DELETED] 

>>90449703
>Can't argue
I accept your concession

>> No.90449828 [DELETED] 

>>90449788
Ina is not considering graduation, ratman.

>> No.90449862 [DELETED] 

>>90449732
La+ will be the last girl standing

>> No.90449874 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Didn't she debut like a year ago? Time sure flies...

>> No.90449877 [DELETED] 

>>90449826
What are you, 14?

>> No.90449878 [DELETED] 

>>90449766
they're not really pressured to work, are they?
especially if you're not popular, you could just stream every once in a while

>> No.90449879 [DELETED] 

>>90447062
>She also mentioned that the workload is overwhelming as she has been struggling with health issues and her health had deteriorated to the point where she required regular medical treatment and was constantly overwhelmed by the job. Her throat is also in a bad condition.
black company..........................

>> No.90449887 [DELETED] 

>>90449761
which means that any member can afford to graduate and retire meaning only the ones who are hardcore into the idol shit will stay on

>> No.90449890 [DELETED] 

>thread about a holo graduating
b-b-b-but the nijis!!!!!!!!1!!!11!!!
Mindroken holokekis lmfao

>> No.90449908 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
you gotta ask yourself one question chump
was going public worth it?

>> No.90449910 [DELETED] 

>>90449890
uh oh nijimelty

>> No.90449913 [DELETED] 

>>90447078
>issues with her throat

just stop the fake voice?

>> No.90449930 [DELETED] 

>>90449788
Mio is quitting?

>> No.90449937 [DELETED] 

phase connect

>> No.90449962 [DELETED] 

>>90448755
Anon you just saved that image why are you false flagging? kek

>> No.90449979 [DELETED] 

TOTAL
SHAREHOLDER
DEATH

>> No.90449983 [DELETED] 

>>90449766
3 NijiJP graduations this year

>> No.90449989 [DELETED] 

>>90449766
10 of them left this year

>> No.90449993 [DELETED] 

>>90447959
>she's another 'likes Shadow for reasons I don't understand' "fan".
you can say the real reason anon, it's okay
>she's another "I wanted to get dicked by Shadow because his designs hot" fan

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uh oh holomelty

>> No.90450001 [DELETED] 

>>90445727
You're supposed to be over 18 to post here.

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>>90446148
/2hug/ reporting in, its a shame that this Stinky Orca is leaving. I await her indie chuuba redebut (whenever that will be).

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But the walled garden is perfect, no one wants to leave and everyone loves their unicorn audience, what gives?

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>>90447160
old women wins again

>> No.90450029 [DELETED] 

>>90449182
Cover owes literally everything to the talents for actually making people like Hololive, Cover seems to be ruining that though lol

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>>90445636
No...she was so hot...

>> No.90450048 [DELETED] 

>>90449877
>Resort to ad-hominem, still can't provide any argument
Heh

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>>90446148
/Sakuna/ here. Come home, stinky.

>> No.90450072 [DELETED] 

>>90449308
Go ahead, then.

>> No.90450069 [DELETED] 

>>90450048
You sound like you post on Reddit.

>> No.90450101 [DELETED] 

>>90449879
>deteriorated to the point where she required regular medical treatment
You do know technically that can be like "man I have a headache after that meeting, I've gotta take a tylenol"? There is not much streaming does that would cause physical damage considering there have been many people streaming daily on twitch for like a decade and no they have not spontaneously combusted.

What I can buy however is if managers are fucking assholes and it gets aggravating and stressful dealing with them, although I think that's not quite what the girls experience, I think they're shielded from most arguments and bickering going on at Cover by their talent managers being the main interface to the company - but this also I think produces an atmosphere where working for Cover is like a black box where you put in suggestions and receive feedback into the ether and it percolates for a while and a mysterious "yes" or "no" comes back through that manager. EN for sure operates like that I think but I dunno if JP mostly does too.

>> No.90450121 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
>mistreat and exploit your talents
>surprised when they leave to get better treatment/pay/creative freedom as an indie
Cover is reaping what they sowed. In a year, no new talents will be applying and they'll be utterly irrelevant. And good riddance to the fucking parasites.

>> No.90450130 [DELETED] 

>>90446148
/ggg/ here. I’m going to goom to Chloe today out of respect

>> No.90450133 [DELETED] 

>>90448015
food analogy

>> No.90450151 [DELETED] 

>>90449427
https://chub.ai/characters/nymous/sakamata-chlooe-f7cc3aaa
This is a good one, there aren't that many of her and some of them aren't good by today's standards desu

>> No.90450160 [DELETED] 

>>90450069
Uh oh melty

>> No.90450176 [DELETED] 

>>90450072
the point is just because you can that doesnt mean you should

>> No.90450179 [DELETED] 

>>90449573
that might be the case, but when normal people want to watch streams they'll go to twitch not youtube. There the twitch bubble is telling them that ironlung is the vtuber of all time and they'll accept and spread it outside of twitch and that leads to her getting even more recognition by tourists.
nevermind the fact that a bunch of people have already written off hololive from the get go because of the "dark and scary idol culture"

>> No.90450190 [DELETED] 

>>90450023
I am same age as her I don't think I am old....

>> No.90450197 [DELETED] 

>>90449517
Shareholders should be publicly whipped for our entertainment.

>> No.90450226 [DELETED] 

thank you ame for ruining graduations with your shit affiliation thing

>> No.90450234 [DELETED] 

Shion yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P_vB5ufSZ8

>> No.90450238 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Shame to see her go

>> No.90450254 [DELETED] 

>>90449395
Sure buddy

>> No.90450263 [DELETED] 

>>90449874
>Debut on Nov 29, 2021
Today is her 3rd year anniversary.

>> No.90450292 [DELETED] 

>>90450226
Why? Mutual benefit is a beautiful thing, is it not?

>> No.90450301 [DELETED] 

>>90449766
>>90449983
I was wrong, not counting ex-ID members, there have been 5:
Chihiro Yuuki, Momo Azuchi, Suzuya Aki, Naruse Naru, Utako Suzuka

>> No.90450333 [DELETED] 

>>90449874
>>90450263
It sure feels like she just debuted...

>> No.90450378 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
>Sexiest model in Hololive is going away
FUCK NO MORE VOLUPTUOUS 3D ORCA TITTIES

>> No.90450453 [DELETED] 

Polka is the the soul of Hololive. As long as she stays, Hololive is still good in my book.

>> No.90450458 [DELETED] 

Did she even hint at a reincarnation? At least with Ame and Aqua it wasn't necessarily goodbye for long.

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black and white bros...

>> No.90450505 [DELETED] 

>>90446774
Kiara was sad already nervous during her spa trip

>> No.90450510 [DELETED] 

>>90448377
holodroooooone

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>>90449461
>Went through her big sister figure Coco graduating
>Then her best friend and genmate Aqua graduated
>Now her biggest fangirl Chloe graduates
>Wife and fellow mesugaki Gura probably heading towards graduating
Shion has suffered enough

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>>90445747

>> No.90450577 [DELETED] 

>>90449558
geg

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>>90449018
if he does have IRL deathtouch then laplus or ollie hopefully.

otherwise I think he should go with someone fresh i.e one of the new dev_is girls, because that'll be at least a few more years barring some unforeseen termination drama.

>> No.90450586 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
Fuck sake

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>>90449681
And now I get to make fun of your whore leaving. Get fucked biatch.

>>90449962
Yes! I'm falseflagging and I am not a real poster! No consequences for my actions sounds good to me!

>> No.90450628 [DELETED] 

>>90450292
A big send off concert will do more for their new indie careers than just being able to collect some more paychecks on merch nobody will buy anymore.

>> No.90450630 [DELETED] 

Alright chat, what is the reincarnation?

>> No.90450687 [DELETED] 

This post will predict who will quit next:
1-4:Raiden
5-9:Flow Glow Drama
0:Shiori
Dubs:Fubuki

>> No.90450705 [DELETED] 

>over an hour
>not even 600 replies
dead board confirmed

>> No.90450709 [DELETED] 

>Company goes public
>Talents start to leave

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GURA NEXT YEAR LET'S GOOOOOOOOO!

>> No.90450737 [DELETED] 

Gura and Peko are the only recognizable ones left. It's over.

>> No.90450739 [DELETED] 

>>90448133
but she will not be able to interact with holos anymore and from an EOP perspective she's as good as dead, if you're really into her you might follow the roommate and her new indie "friends" perhaps.

>> No.90450759 [DELETED] 

>>90450687
Incorrect. The REAL answer is its gonna be Ina and shes gonna leave before EnReco 2 begins

>> No.90450763 [DELETED] 

>>90449461
shion yo....

>> No.90450825 [DELETED] 

Everyone is leaving to be indies.
Aqua persuaded them.

>> No.90450833 [DELETED] 

>>90448928
trvke

>> No.90450839 [DELETED] 

>>90450453
You said the same about Aqua. Who're gonna become the next "soul" after Polka graduates?

>> No.90450873 [DELETED] 

I'm glad pekora didn't give a single fuck about this graduation lazy bitch will be forgotten in 3 days just like ya'll did with mel

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>>90446148
/pcg/ reporting in. Never watched Chloe outside of clips, but her model was always a favorite

>> No.90450894 [DELETED] 

>>90450739
>but she will not be able to interact with holos
Why not?

>> No.90450912 [DELETED] 

>>90450524
Shion puts 0.1% effort into hololive. She is the biggest JP leech.

>> No.90450923 [DELETED] 

Sorry to hear that Holobros, especially if any of you had her as your oshi, I know it must be hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA just kidding get FUCKING OWNED holofags

>> No.90450933 [DELETED] 

>>90450687
>Flow Glow Drama
qrd?

>> No.90450962 [DELETED] 

Rate Negrodamus' prediction: >>66783417

>> No.90450970 [DELETED] 

>>90446214
Honestly that's such a win-win scenario. Cover can keep selling their highly successful likeness and the ex-talents basically get passive income.
Like genuinely such a good deal I'm surprised Gura hasn't done it, since Cocer begging her to stay for essentially the same passive free merch/income deal is why she's still working as Gura, except she has to dance and stream from time to time still.

>> No.90450969 [DELETED] 

>>90445636
mane-san forced her to take a bath

>> No.90450975 [DELETED] 

>>90450912
Guess I'll just feel bad for Marine / Matsuri when Shion finally graduates then

>> No.90450985 [DELETED] 

>>90450912
Isn’t she also narcoleptic or something like that?
>verification mot required

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Okay anons bets are open, who is the next holo graduation?
I bet on a Shion graduation soon

>> No.90451014 [DELETED] 

>>90450970
its not a win win as fans wont stick around to buy that merch, eventually reducing the fans buying any merch at all. its a death spiral

>> No.90451021 [DELETED] 

>>90450962
3/3, impressive grudgepost.

>> No.90451029 [DELETED] 

>>90446329
Don't think I didn't see you you fucking Zena.

>> No.90451050 [DELETED] 

>>90450987
Ina. Genuinely betting on Ina being next.

>> No.90451065 [DELETED] 

>>90450933
It's just a prediction bro, maybe the same thing that happened with gen 5 might happen again.

>> No.90451069 [DELETED] 

>the "biggest vtuber" in the west now is a Spanish = funny sick hag who gets astroturfed constantly

The absolute state. No wonder this board is dead.

>> No.90451071 [DELETED] 

>>90450987
fauna for en
laplus for jp

>> No.90451072 [DELETED] 

What exactly is the "new company direction" they all hate?

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>>90445636
fuck

>> No.90451101 [DELETED] 

>>90450962
0/10
The future of streaming is vtubers, the growth over the last few years has been astounding and its getting bigger in mainstream every single day, especially amongst kids/teens.

>> No.90451116 [DELETED] 

>>90450987
100% not gura, she will come back once in a while to collect superchat to buy milk for her newborn and condoms for her hubby

>> No.90451137 [DELETED] 

>>90450962
how was he able to get all three wrong? impressive

>> No.90451143 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
Too big.
Not everyone can be Marine or Suisei.

>> No.90451145 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
Anti-idol, anti-streaming direction

>> No.90451152 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
china

>> No.90451184 [DELETED] 

>>90451116
This guys >>90430982 said it was 0% for Chloe to grad several hours ago.

>> No.90451193 [DELETED] 

>>90451137
>posted in /#/
take a guess KEK

>> No.90451196 [DELETED] 

Plz Chloe, end your graduation stream by walking into the shower because it would be so fucking funny.

>> No.90451208 [DELETED] 

>>90451014
Gura fans hardly were ever actual vtubing fans, people cared about the shark loli image, i.e. merch, not to watch streams or concerts.

>> No.90451219 [DELETED] 

>>90450839
NTA but FBK has always and will always be for me
>>90450933
Riona has been under some high pressure from antis recently. Can't say anything without knowing how strong she is mentally, but it seems 50:50 on her right now

>> No.90451248 [DELETED] 

I don't like her but she's the hottest holo, I'm going to miss the art

>> No.90451273 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
nobody wants to work my g, the hags are used to it but them kids they just want to go to tiktok and earn gorillions by munching on glizzies and get boyfriends while they're at it

>> No.90451283 [DELETED] 

>>90450987
I'm gonna throw a curveball in and say Aki

>> No.90451291 [DELETED] 

>>90451208
They will not stay and buy merch, I know they wont. They like popular thing, and if affiliate happens she will no longer exist to be the popular thing, meaning they will all leave.

>> No.90451296 [DELETED] 

>>90451145
>Anti-idol
?

>> No.90451302 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
California.

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>Sakamata got 445 akasupa on her stream

>> No.90451321 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
Too big, leads to a lot more work. It used to be just streaming and having meeting for them, nowadays there are a lot of official programs, sponsorships, and 3D performances.
People shitpost about the girls being lazy but most of them (except very few) tend to be swamped with streaming and having recordings / lessons

>> No.90451357 [DELETED] 

>>90451273
>implying you can’t have a boyfriend in Hololive

>> No.90451367 [DELETED] 

>>90451321
Very few clearly means Gura and Gura only btw

>> No.90451380 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
It's just a polite excuse. We know from Kronii that they don't do shit.

>> No.90451382 [DELETED] 

>>90448255
>found an unnamed pursuit that she wants to fully commit to
She's marrying one of her regular clients?

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>>90451301
>¥7,109,092
jesus christ

>> No.90451418 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
Becoming like Suisei. Regloss is the first step to replace the oldschool holos.

>> No.90451426 [DELETED] 

>>90451301
I never understood the mentality.
>I'm leaving guys thanks for all your support over the years but i'm going to so other shit now bye!
>Thanks for all the goodbye donations, it'll really help me out when I want to fund my future activities and career unrelated to any of you.

>> No.90451428 [DELETED] 

>>90451219
Didn't they just debut earlier this month? How did she get antis?

>> No.90451461 [DELETED] 

They still don't understand that what made Hololive popular are games and comedy, not freaking idols.
We all know how Azki and Suisei were before they became regular streamers.

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>>90450737
how can one be so wrong?

>> No.90451485 [DELETED] 

>>90450839
Only Japs care about Shatqua.

>> No.90451486 [DELETED] 

>>90450705
She was huge but there aren't that many people here who watched her streams or her clips.

>> No.90451522 [DELETED] 

>>90451296
>Aqua quit to become an idol and have a sololive
>Regloss and flow glow are nothing like idols
>Biggest studio in Japan and instead of more 3D lives there is somehow less

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>>90451485

>> No.90451540 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
If the emergence of Dev_IS is anyting to go by, Hololive seems to be trying to become more idol-like, meaning a unified idol units with less emphasize on streaming. The current talents obviously really like centering a lot of their career in Hololive around their non-music content and ReGLOSS didn't have individual 3D debut streams. They all had one 3D debut stream as a unit. Maybe the current talents like the current arrangement of every talent having their own music career instead of having it be directly tied to their generation. Idk, I'm just guessing here, but Altare did complain about management being bad, so I'm trying not to assume the worst. Lets just hope that A-chan leaving didn't permanently fuck up Cover's management. Because Nodoka seems like a good successor so far.

>> No.90451550 [DELETED] 

I'll cry later when they clip the highlights

>> No.90451576 [DELETED] 

>>90446070
>image
There's no way that's real. There's no way she would just admit that she only works 2 hours a day.

>> No.90451584 [DELETED] 

>>90451208
bs
if you have watched any of her older streams, you can easily see why she is the most popular. she's by far the funniest holo and best entertainer in general.
I even forgot about how better than the other she was before her v2 model stream, I almost didn't watch it. but she's actually the best vtuber

>> No.90451596 [DELETED] 

>>90451418
Why isn't Regloss any good then?

>> No.90451601 [DELETED] 

WHYYYYYYYYYYY

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Real shit though, I'm surprised Ayame hasn't quit yet. I've been thinking she'd graduate for like 3 years now.

>> No.90451619 [DELETED] 

>>90451426
>unrelated to any of you
most of the people donating will keep donating to whatever her new account is

>> No.90451640 [DELETED] 

>>90451072
Evil investors.

>> No.90451661 [DELETED] 

>>90451584
So true! She's the cutest and funniest!

>> No.90451669 [DELETED] 

What's the rrat so far?

>> No.90451688 [DELETED] 

>>90451486
She was huge in superchats but her streams rarely hit 10k. She was a niche that she and the company thought had the potential to go mainstream but never did. She never put out that album she was working on.

>> No.90451693 [DELETED] 

>>90451619
past events have proven your comment wrong

>> No.90451709

>>90451669
She slapped Yagoo in front of Pekora

>> No.90451724

>>90451693
hmmmmm
nyo

>> No.90451743

>>90451603
Why would she? She found out she doesn't really need to stream to keep doing what Cover wants her to do. Like some other talents also found out. The talents who like streaming a lot are the ones who you should be worried about. Or the talents that have creative differences with cover, like getting their projects rejected all the time.

>> No.90451762

>>90446070
God, I really hope this bitch is miserable. Every time she sees "booba", I hope she seethes so much she pisses herself.

>> No.90451771

Why is every graduation thread about Gura?

>> No.90451772

>>90451428
She was playing Liar's Bar with viewers. Turned out to be a bad idea since she was new (both as a Holo member and a streamer) and hadn't gotten time to bond with her fans yet (can't just rely on the "Who is your oshi" joke for hours after all). She said she was getting bored, so she switched to singing karaoke.
Anti has been latching on that and attacking her for, as they put it, being disrespectful (calling the game boring) and feeling bored interacting with fans. Her viewership suffered because of that, too (she is the clear runt of the group so far).
I think she can still be saved like Ao was, but whether she can hold that long is to be seen

>> No.90451815

>>90445727
Aqua was pretty relevant but yes

>> No.90451825

>>90451743
>The talents who like streaming a lot are the ones who you should be worried about.
So Koyori, Pekora, Miko and a bunch of the old guard.

>> No.90451849

stinky neetchan can't compete with real veteran idols, imagine being an mc for the dodgers and spilling your spaghetti all over unless you're a genius like peko

>> No.90451861

>>90451576
Nah its real
https://youtu.be/v11e1eGyiYI?

>> No.90451869

>>90451772
Not gonna lie, her model alone feels weird to me.

>> No.90451874

is there anything more pathetic than being a hololive anti on /vt/?

>> No.90451878

>>90451825
I don't think cover would ever reject these girls projects. Miko could straight up suggest a dick sucking stream and she'd get the thumbs up.

>> No.90451882

>>90451273
Incredibly smoothbrain take Anon. Nobody with TikTok brain would ever have enough of an attention span to watch a live-stream. Biboo is the only chuuba that's actually into the TikTok brainrot, and yet she's still regularly endurance streaming on a near daily basis.

>> No.90451886

>>90451772
Ao stood out though. Riona is like a pre-Geoguesser AZKi.

>> No.90451899

>>90446070
Only good thing about this hag is her design and it's just Nero but blue.

>> No.90451903

>>90450008
stop watching vtubers and go practice your 1cc

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>

>> No.90451919

>>90451861
That's crazy. Thanks for the link.

>> No.90451923

>>90451878
>Miko
>dick sucking stream
surely you meant Pekora there

>> No.90451949

>>90451923
Her too, Koyori too.

>> No.90451971

>>90451919
stop talking to yourself, weirdo

>> No.90451982

>>90451772
I don't think Ao was ever in that much trouble, being a pervert is pretty much her character nowdays, just like Marine.

>> No.90451989

>>90451874
simp western indies

>> No.90452041

>>90450923
The only thing stinkier than Chloe herself is a Nijisister. At least I can actually sniff Chloe's stench happily, but all you Nijicucks just make me want to gag.

>> No.90452045

>>90446455
He fucking deserves it.

>> No.90452076

>>90451874
being an unpaid shill for cover after they made yet another girl graduate

>> No.90452093

>>90451878
>>90451923
Pekora already got her project(s) rejected before. Remember when she took the one week break in 2023? She openly said in mengen that she took it because she was being depressed, too

>> No.90452116

>>90451874
being a hololive fan? imagine licking boot of some jap company and ethots hiding behind an avatar with their bfs/hubbies while milking sad loners. Imagine defending that 24/7 for years and donatinf to them only so that they could coast through life? Wouldn't be me

>> No.90452130

Pekora's project getting rejected is why she still hates Miko

>> No.90452144

>>90451576
>admit
she *claims* to work 2 hours a day
it's probably much less

>> No.90452148

>>90445636
Oh no not the stinky one

>> No.90452157

>>90451771
because she had already graduated in every aspect, just need to formalize it

>> No.90452215

stinky nijisisters are HERE

>> No.90452250

not like this nijixisters

>> No.90452258

Honestly I feel like there would be much more impact if Mori quits rather than Gura.

>> No.90452270

>>90446122
Gura never streams but things are fine.

>> No.90452326

>>90449104
Ayame is younger than chloe, so is matsuri. So is Lap too.

>> No.90452406

>>90446523
It's not just for the shareholders. Affiliation allows the talent to make cameos, even if they aren't streaming anymore. I think it's good thing to have them to remain affiliated because it allows the graduated talents to still feel like they're always a part of Hololive in spirit, even when they aren't there. Before Ame's graduation, every graduation felt like a funeral. Ame also said that affiliation leaves the door open to coming to Hololive down the line if she wants to, so there's much less finality in the affiliation route. This is why the fans found Ame's departure so much easier to accept than Aqua's.

>> No.90452436

>>90451878
Management is infamously cautious

>> No.90452442

>>90446352
>in the wild
we don't live in the jungle like you anon. you need to come to the west to see western merch.

>> No.90452449

Fauna is next

>> No.90452456

>>90451321
>Too big, leads to a lot more work.
They literally only work 2 hours a day.

>> No.90452459

>>90446613
Plz don't be Mumei. Plz don't be Mumei. Plz don't be Mumei.

PLZ NO! NOT MY OSHI!

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SOON

>> No.90452494

>>90449437
>No one cares about twitch shit
Just because you can't afford watching twitch doesn't mean it's irrelevant islander kun.

>> No.90452496

>>90446122
The fuck you're talking about? Gura has been irrelevant for the past 2 years, nobody outside of a few deluded chumbuds will give a fuck when she graduates

>> No.90452507

>>90449018
He's a Sakuna whale now

>> No.90452524

>>90451878
I bet Matsuri wishes she was Miko.

>> No.90452539

>>90445636
So is this the same thing ame is doing?
No longer streaming and doing shit, but still theyll keep selling merch?

>> No.90452540

>>90451461
Suisei was a regular streamer from the very start

>> No.90452543

>>90450912
>biggest JP leech
Do you mean Ayame?

>> No.90452571

>>90446619
A Gura graduation would unironically be apocalyptic for Cover. After all the graduations we've seen this year from Cover, Gura leaving would be the worst press they ever dread at this point. If not even their queen, their mascot, their icon that even boomers can recognize is not happy with the current state of Cover, then what the fuck is Yagoo doing?

>> No.90452573

>>90446765
>>even the human behind the chuuba can come back if needed
You think they all get free time? they aren't coming back it's not happening.

>> No.90452594

So why isn’t Fubuki concerned about all the graduations lately?

>> No.90452651

Feels like karma desu. Feels good.

>> No.90452654

>>90448151
>Their roommates start posting at that exact moment

>> No.90452661

>>90445636
>chuubas severely underpaid and leaving
IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN

>> No.90452670

>>90452594
She is the mastermind.

>> No.90452674

>>90451386
>yen
isnt that like 50k dollars? and dont forget cuts. Not really that much

>> No.90452695

At least with Ame and Aqua, we knew they'd come back. We got lucky Mel was convinced to keep at it. I genuinely have zero clue what Chloe wants to do and if she's going to continue having a presence.

>> No.90452696

YURILIVE DEATH SOON

>> No.90452702

>>90451576
That was her homework time (signing postcards, making thumbnails, etc.). It didn't include streaming and having meeting (those happen at night) and didn't include irregular activities (i.e: lessons) either

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>>90445727
Fpbp, people fail to realize how Holos leaving will actually improve the quality of the remaining girls over time. Lazy and unmotivated Holos choose to leave, while hardworking and talented Holos decide to stay. New people can always be brought in to replace those who leave, and the bad eggs will naturally filter themselves out over time. I think anons just over focus on their emotional attachment to the individual characters who are leaving, while ignoring how it's actually a good thing for the collective. If the character you currently watch leaves, it just means that they didn't meet the lofty standards of Hololive's current brand and you should just switch to someone else that actually appreciates the privilege of being a Holo.

>> No.90452715

>>90446148
/ahoy/ here
RIP UMISEA and Holo witches

>> No.90452720

>>90445636
>affiliate
they really love hiding the truth, remember when yaggo told coco he'd invite her?

>> No.90452764

>>90452571
This is what chumkeks actually believe

>> No.90452776

>>90452714
TLDR

>> No.90452782

>>90452594
Because the problem wasn't an ethical / moral issue.

>> No.90452844

>>90452496
Ahh yes. The woman who single-handedly racks up enough viewers to fill a stadium every time she streams is irrelevant. OMEGA KEKW! Cope and seethe Nijisister!

>> No.90452851

>>90452714
>Lazy and unmotivated Holos choose to leave,
this has to be bait
why is it then gura stays and ame left, it's literally the opposite, people stay because they assume they have their funds guaranteed

>> No.90452857

>>90452714
>lazy and unmotivated Holos choose to leave
>while hardworking and talented Holos decide to stay
do you really believe this

>> No.90452863

>>90452594
>as hololive doesnt fuck me over you can put your faith in me!

>> No.90452875

>>90449703
>t-they are japanese that's why
>w-why you're using ex-niji you console warfaggot, you can't use the fact that they are japanese to refute my headcanon
Least retarded anti falseflaggers

>> No.90452880

>>90452571
I think Gura tapped out years ago and everyone knows it. It would not be a surprise.

>> No.90452898

>>90452714
>I think anons just over focus on their emotional attachment to the individual characters who are leaving

Isn't this the whole fucking point? what else would be the reason to give them money

>> No.90452932

>>90452571
Gura can only leave when they manage to perfectly recreate her voice and mannerisms with AI.

>> No.90452949

>>90445636
Literally who?
Is this the one who had the orca hood that wore it on debut and then basically never again?

>> No.90452985 [DELETED] 

U
S
A
M
IIIIIIIII

>> No.90453010

Bumping this epic thread

>> No.90453019

Somehow this is the Nijisisters fault!!!

>> No.90453037

>>90452880
Like other anons said, I think Mori ending her contract would be a way bigger deal, and I'm saying this as a sapling, I'm not even a deadbeat.

>> No.90453042

>>90452543
She is up there too, but Shion is in a league of her own.

>> No.90453046

>>90452714
It's exactly the opposite anon. When a company starts to crumble internally, the first employees to go are the most talented, the most motivated, because they are the ones that know they can afford to cut their losses and still land on their feet.

The last people clinging to the corpse of a dead company are the ones who can't afford to leave, the least capable ones that know that if they lose their current job they are fucked.

>> No.90453049

>>90448542
if this was true pink haachama and her penguin friend would be long gone

>> No.90453085

Lui and Chloe were my favorites from HoloX for very different reasons and it really genuinely sucks losing the orca. She was this spinning coin that could end on the most sexy creature or turn on a dime and be absolutely joyfully cute.

God, man. At least hint you're going to still be vtubing as an indie.

>> No.90453117

>>90452782
>being forced to work until their health deteriorates and causes them serious issues
>Overwhelming workloads
>Company direction is souring the mood with multiple talents
Yeah no ethics or moral concerns here.

>> No.90453143

>>90452674
why are we pretending that even netting half of that, 25k USD, for a couple hours of “work”, is not a lot, mr saudi oil baron larper?

>> No.90453144

>>90452406
Its just nice lie that they tell you now but one day you will find out that Santa is not real either.

>> No.90453146

>>90451116
>condoms for the hubby
Is this why Gura has been such a bitch? Is she getting cucked for real?

>> No.90453168

>>90445636
>conclude her release of new merchandise
>she will continue her affiliation as a talent of hololive production
So like Ame. I don't fully understand what this means. I hope they still get paid if Hololive continues to sell their merchandise.

>> No.90453170

>>90446084
Sakuna is almost at 1M subs already btw. The talents made themselves successful. Not just Cover you fake fan. If the talents leaving is all it takes for you to abandon them, then you were never a fan of the talents. You were only a fan of Cover.

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>Holos quitting
>liggers opening Fansly and doing porn streams on them
We are entering a new phase of vutbing where major corpos will quiting their corpo for going indie and Fansly NSFW streams are normalized

>> No.90453188

>>90453117
Fubuki has no ethics or morals.

>> No.90453194

>>90453085
>God, man. At least hint you're going to still be vtubing as an indie.
If Aqua didn't do that I doubt anyone else would.

>> No.90453195

>>90452594
I do not trust that skinwalker

>> No.90453245

>>90453117
>Ignores that Chloe said the management was very supportive and lowered her workloads
>Ignores that Marine said they could've gone Shion's route and doesn't even have to work at all
Working hard is an option, not mandatory. They weren't forced to.

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>>90445636
Why was it that both Aqua and Ame and now Chloe would rather stream regularly as a ligger than stream for Cover? Very sus
Something wicked is going on in there bros

>> No.90453265

>>90445636
>First Ame now Chloe
It's so fucking over.
Women are herd animals. Expect an exponential amount of notgraduations over the next year.

>> No.90453280

>>90453187
>We are entering a new phase of vutbing
You're just a newfag

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>> No.90453289

>>90453187
>Computerized Numerical Control in S yier
Very based.

>> No.90453303

>>90453187
that bitch is hideous

>> No.90453317

>>90453187
Only chuubas who have no qualms with prostitution.

>> No.90453321

>>90453117
"Overwhelming workloads" to these spoiled bitches is really just working more than 2 hours per day.

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Suck it to all the doubters who insisted it was a hiatus and to 'watch streams'

>> No.90453334

>>90453168
It's basically graduations but Hololive can still use their images in stuffs (advertisements, merchs, etc.) and they still get their cuts. Also open the door for possible temporary returns on special events if they want to

>> No.90453361

>My voice is dying from all the work I'm doing
>Let me follow this up with a flawless performance of all my songs
Please just keep singing for us, you seductive stinker.

>> No.90453371

>>90453117
>Overwhelming workloads
>>90446070

>> No.90453382

>>90453324
W-W-Watch streams.

>> No.90453384

Reminder to download her MMD before it gets taken down
https://3d.nicovideo.jp/works/td84836

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>>90446148
Miko thread present, wtf is Cover doing man...

>> No.90453405

>>90453334
>and they still get their cuts.
This has yet to be proven true

>> No.90453413

>>90453371
Kronii is a freeloader, obviously the more famous a vtuber is the less freetime they get.

>> No.90453428

>>90453392
consoom maccas

>> No.90453432

>>90453392
Miko leaving would unironically be a nuclear bomb on cover

>> No.90453438

>>90452715
>RIP Holo witches
Ah fuck I forgot about this. Will they replace her now or what?

>> No.90453444

>>90445636
I want Gura to become my Senzawa next

>> No.90453460

>>90448542
don't shitpost with Rosemi ever again, swine

>> No.90453472

How many Hololive graduations and anything else of that sort have we had now this year?

>> No.90453499

>>90453438
They didn't voice their character in the anime to begin with if that's what you're asking

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oh no no no…

>> No.90453542

>>90453324
>Watch streams-fags were the ones which never watched any streams
Absolute cinema.

>> No.90453543

>>90449552
>She's gonna come back just like how all the other girls 'graduated'.
Well... yeah? That's the point of graduation.
You leave school, then you reappear in life using the skills and connections you gained in school. You don't just disappear, never to be seen by anyone ever again.

>> No.90453550

>>90453472
a negligible amount

>> No.90453555

>>90453405
Why else would they want to accept affiliate status instead of just graduate? There must be some benefits for the talents or they could've just gone the Aqua / Coco's way and not letting Cover sell their merchs without getting shit on by fans at all

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>>90453187
>go on finish the tier list, it's okay because someone is only prolonging it because they love how needy they are right now in front of all these people right puppy? such a shy little thing you are it's adorable, despite all the other reason's you're trying to come up with cutie

>> No.90453571

>>90453143
Unless she has tons of money saved that wont last long and if she does does extra 25k really matter at that point?

>> No.90453617

>>90453499
Yes but her character exists in merch/manga/etc. They'd have to write her out of the project and write some other girl in. I mean it's possible but...

>> No.90453641

>>90453472
6
>A-chan, Mel, Gamma, Aqua, Chloe, Ame

>> No.90453650

>>90445727
Reminder anyone celebrating this news is a NijiEN anti.

>> No.90453654

>>90453085
saying she will be back at as indie would hurt her graduation money sent-off.
There is a reason Aqua pretended to be gone forever only to reappear with essentially a costume change 5 weeks later

>> No.90453679

>>90453617
There’s always Koyori

>> No.90453706

>>90453641
>Gamma
Who?

>> No.90453721

>>90453641
so 3 graduations
got it

>> No.90453731

Cover has shifted all of their talents onto idol work over the past streaming model. This was due to the perms system having bloated severely and the financial difficulties observed across the board amongst the viewer and at Cover, thus Cover doesn't see their streaming model recovering to the revenue numbers from a few years ago. At the rate that Cover is bleeding money, they appear to be heading toward bankruptcy fairly soon. In the event that Cover shuts down, it is not yet known if that the talents will be able to retain their character models for if they are forced to go their separate way, or if another company will purchase Cover. Either way we will likely see more of the talents leaving the company in the future, some once their next contract negotiation comes up.

>> No.90453758

>>90453432
If Miko left Cover, it would mean Cover has majorly fucked up and is either going bankrupt (monetarily, ethically) or will be soon after her graduation. Same with Sui and Peko, they've all got too much fame and too many plans associated with their characters and Cover to throw them away easily.
Doesn't mean Chloe's departure isn't justified or that it hurts less though

>> No.90453772
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>>90445636
>not delivering payments
was it something related to this? i remember people talking about Cover corp not paying their staff and whatnot
if vtubers got bulls to pay, then they're fucked because of that

>> No.90453782

I'm sadly at work but wasn't Koyori following Chloe to elaborate? Have we gotten more information?

>> No.90453786

>>90453731
You got me, anon

>> No.90453828

>>90453438
>>90453617
What yhe hell are you talking about? The affiliate thing exists so that they don't need to do that.

>> No.90453837

>>90451878
>>90452093
And Miko already got her projects rejected by Cover multiple times before. HoloGTA was rejected by Cover, Miko's been wanting to do it for years but still rejected it until niji did NijiGTA first. Cover also rejected Miko's sololive back in 2021-2022 and said she still needs to have good music views. But weirdly Cover still granted Pekora her sololive eventhough Pekora's music views are way worst than Miko, and Cover even granted an entire year for her. Pekora clearly sucked management's cock to get it.

>> No.90453849

>>90453654
>There is a reason Aqua pretended to be gone forever only to reappear with essentially a costume change 5 weeks later
But...she didn't do that? She literally kept telling people to stop pretending like she's dying.

>> No.90453880

>>90453731
So Cover is just as dumb as other tech companies that banked on Covid?

>> No.90453899

>>90453772
Yeah, because we didn't just see report showed that Cover pays their talents $350K a year on average (and that was with homos and IDs dragging the average down so realistically, a mid-tier member like Chloe would've gotten way more)

>> No.90453908

I think it’s time for everyone to reevaluate their oshi and what their staying power is. if your oshi is not mikomet, fubuking, pecola, etc., hololive blue chips if you will, they might not be worth spending your time and money on

>> No.90453911
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Goodbye beautiful 3d model

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>>90453536
my heart is with him

>> No.90454053

>>90453899
That won't matter if the talents don't get paid at all. You hear plenty of menial workers out there in sweatshops assuming they get paid regularly and appropriately but the reality is often very very different. They could pay them the first year then withhold all the money to fuck the chuubas over missing their bills.

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>>90452714
>Look at that subtle falseflagging
>A tasteful bait on it
>Oh my god it even has a FWMC pic

>> No.90454059

>the graduation queue is real

>> No.90454072

>>90453828
I guess that's true, but if they ever need to voice her it'd be awkward. Idk if my oshi graduated I wouldn't still buy/ consume stuff Cover decides to push with her corpse.

>> No.90454085

So joining for the Holo buff and then going indie for 100% revenue profit after your simps follow you is the new meta?

>> No.90454086

>>90453772
And the Holodrones tried to bury this and the Ina yab amidst all the talents jumping ship. How much longer are they going to let them get away with this shit?

>> No.90454107

>>90445636
bai bai stinky orca

>> No.90454124

>>90453438
They are probably gonna bin the whole project

>> No.90454140

>>90454085
They wouldn't be going indie if they weren't stuck with a black company

>> No.90454160

...

>> No.90454176
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>> No.90454188

>>90445636
ITS OVER LOL

>> No.90454204

>>90453117
>forced
she isnt being forced, she is leaving instead, thats her choice

>> No.90454220 [DELETED] 

>>90452898
To line shit pockets of course. What greater joy is there for a bootlicker?

>> No.90454266

>>90453384
They take down the MMDs for graduates? Do you have Mel, Aqua, and Ame, then?

>> No.90454279

>>90454053
Yeah, they sure were risking jail time by lying on official reports
(And let's ignore that even the runts like RBC managed to buy a house in Tokyo Metropolitan area)

>> No.90454284

As soon as Aqua left to still huge numbers, that was the dam bursting for Hololive. Some people are naturally going to filter out with time, but taking the IPO and full idol autism route is going to speed shit up for a lot of the girls.

>> No.90454286

>>90445636
Another wasted model

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>> No.90454304

>>90445727
Why hasn't Gura left yet then?

>> No.90454313

>>90452898 #
To line suit pockets of course. What greater joy is there for a bootlicker?

>> No.90454347

>>90448542
B-but everyone in niji en are irrelevant bottom of the barrel shitters?
I don't get it

>> No.90454376

>>90454053
>That won't matter if the talents don't get paid at all
>proof?
>assumptions

>> No.90454381

>>90454085
Sounds good. Still need to build your Holo fanbase for 2-3+ years, though (that'd put them in line with average normal idols' shelf life, too)

>> No.90454392

>>90454072
There's obviously not going to be any new content that requires the actual talent if they need more recordings.
They can still skinwalk the model for a 3D live if they have recordings of her singing.

>> No.90454399

>>90453731
>Cover is bleeding money, they appear to be heading toward bankruptcy fairly soon
lol

>> No.90454412

>>90454376
Cover literally got in trouble for not paying their staff

>> No.90454438

it's all HoloEarth fault

>> No.90454499

>>90446352
I've seen Hololive themed motorcycle once and never seen anything related to vtuber ever again

>> No.90454508

>>90454279
sounds very sketchy
does it include every deduction including taxes, overhead and their cut from them? feels like overinflated bs
also plenty of companies that severely underpay their employees don't really get anyone jailed, that's just how the system works

>> No.90454536

>>90453641
>Gamma
Literally fucking who?

>>90453772
You are retarded.

>> No.90454543

Cloe will leave, nothing will change, that's all to it

>> No.90454577

>The graduation queue was for Hololive and not Niji

Lol

>> No.90454595

>>90445636
Wait, so what about her RL idol group? Is she going to continue that? If she is, should >we be worried for not!Matsuri, too?
Just think it'd be funny if, for all the talks about "le idol works bad", she is actually graduating to focus fully on her idol group

>> No.90454614

hololive antis have now been replaced by literal schizos
nice

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>>90446148
/lcg/ here
>>90446329
Why is always you?

>> No.90454691

>>90454438
You keep saying this shit but never suggest how or why.

>> No.90454692

>>90454086
What Ina yab

>> No.90454717

>>90454508
It's the pre-tax payment, but everything else Cover-related is already deducted (i.e: Cover's cuts).
>overinflated bs
Lamy said on stream that her annual income was between $800K to $1.6M. If anything, $350k+ actually sounds too low (again, probably because homo and IDs were dragging the average down)

>> No.90454735

Once again, I will never be able to understand how someone can throw away the hololive golden ticket so easily no matter the reason.

>> No.90454738

>>90451072
Tripling down on idol shit despite it being obvious that everyone hates idol shit

>> No.90454751

>>90453536
I wouldn't be a diehard Hololive consoomer in this day and age.

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>>90453384
Way ahead of you. I didn't check your link, but I'm sure I've gotten the right one.

>> No.90454766

>>90454738
/vt/ is not remotely anywhere like 'everyone'

>> No.90454769

>>90454692
something about visas

>> No.90454787

>>90454717
are there any legal ramifications forced by a contract especially with NDA to say that you earn more than you actually do?

>> No.90454809

CONSUME PRODUCT
LOVE PRODUCT
GIB ME PLASTIC
Serioudly, fuck all the horseshit coming out at such an insane rate for Hololive now. No idea what's changed, but the general worn-down feeling seems to have permiated even the longest, strongest members because they keeo pushing all this horseshit non-stop.

>> No.90454839

>>90453731
they got plenty of cash on hand

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>>90453536
You only really have yourself to blame for buying all this junk

>> No.90454863

>>90454691
nobody gives a fuck about the pile of dogshit that is holo earth but they keep pushing it and draining money and resources for its development

>> No.90454873

>>90445636
Top earner = death huh

>> No.90454885

>>90454412
No they didn't, they didn't pay some contractor artists revisions fee because of miscommunication with middleman then the court rule that they still need to pay them, that's it.

>> No.90454889

>>90454735
Cover is in a state of collapse. You'll be lucky to watch four new streams in a month soon from any given talent. Or in the case of Gura, four streams in a year.

>> No.90454914

>>90446458
>JP
>Henya
roru.

>> No.90454921

>>90445636
I don't understand moonrunes so I don't really care about moonrune chuubas

>> No.90454923

I think Sony should buy out Cover Corp. That huge influx of cash would allow the talents to keep doing what they love, while taking some pressure off of Yagoo.

>> No.90454942

>>90454863
Same can easily be said for DA BOOOOOOOIZ, yet they still exist. Also, it has some useful features, unlike the aforementioned jomos.

>> No.90454953

>>90454885
Ok so Cover didn't pay them got it
If that could happen to some random contractor, then that very well could also happen with the talents

>> No.90454958

>>90454735
3 years of milking cash cows is enough to be set for life, or a good part of it, if you have even a modicum of sense. also she’s not retiring, she’ll be back in 2 weeks after final stream, guaranteed

>> No.90454963

>>90454923
They'll turn hololive into another concord

>> No.90454986

Are gooba and moom waiting in line? I guess Fauna might too Idol stuff was always her worst part.

>> No.90454991

>>90454752
Is this published?

>> No.90454993

>>90454839
Bro, they can't even pay their staff. I think they got in trouble with the government for that actually not that long ago

>> No.90454999

>>90453536
There's a fine line between fandom and mental illness.

>> No.90455007

>>90454889
The entire vtuber industry is in a state of collapse

>> No.90455013

>>90454923
>>90454963
Well too bad they were born in the wrong timeline, the opposing ideology to that is winning atm

>> No.90455021

>>90453536
The people on this board making fun of people like these are the same people that called others jealous nijisisters for calling their ugly Myth watches grossly overpriced

>> No.90455031

>>90454889
>>90454958
I mean, that's exactly my point.
Some of the girls can go months without streaming without any single issue. And then come back like if nothing happened.
That's why I'll never understand the overwork meme or the different direction meme. If you feel overworked then just don't stream and return after feeling rested and keep milking people for all they're worth.
There's no point in retiring. You're kicking yourself out just because. Losing a guaranteed incomparable revenue source just for funsies.

>> No.90455040

>still no 1k
grim

>> No.90455048

>>90454873
She's wasn't even in top 5

>> No.90455069

>>90454986
Elaborate on Fauna idol stuff

>> No.90455083

>>90447846
>"going public won't change anything so being a schizo"
lol
lmao even

>> No.90455095

>cover is totally bankrupt and they can't even pay their employees bro
no one believes you

>> No.90455103

>>90455007
Stop crabbing lol
Indies, Phase and Vshojo are fine
Only Niji and Holo are in flames at the moment

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>>90449084
Every single fucking holo i like ends up leaving
i hate this year so much

>> No.90455131

>>90455069
Fauna can't dance and sing...

>> No.90455133

>>90454787
I doubt their contracts force them to go out of their way to lie about their income, but you do you. Contracts can force them not to specify how much they make (which was likely why Lamy's income was a range instead of specific number), but "bring it up on your own and lie about it"? Yeah, unlikely

>> No.90455135

So how is Yagoo fucking up so bad that everyone wants to graduate/do a meme graduation now?

>> No.90455140

>>90455040
look at the first non-sticky thread

>> No.90455194

>>90454991
https://www.iwara.tv/video/4464fE6rLHWej5/bon-bon-chocolatandparadinha
He does almost nothing but Chloe getting hypnotised and being lewd.

>> No.90455211

>>90447846
Nope. Most people are in complete denial and believe that Ame saved hololive from future graduations.

>> No.90455228

>>90455115
>>Every single fucking holo i like ends up leaving
So you’re saying >we should sacrifice you to a volcano to stop these graduations?

>> No.90455231

>>90455103
Only indie is rising and that's only due to market oversaturation
Also the fact that indies were all 2views until recently

>> No.90455234

>>90447929
Wait, they already put out an ANOTHER GENERATION?

>> No.90455241

>>90453641
Not even, Chloe technically graduates in 2025

>> No.90455262

>>90455133
It could very well be part of their kayfabe and they don't actually earn that much. If you're working for some entertainment industry, sometimes you'd be forced to say or do certain things as part of the contract, not because it has any legal significance.

>> No.90455263

>>90455194
Perfect. Chloe is actually why i have a hypnosis fetish now.

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>>90454889
kek couple that with the Nikkei crabbing for months.

>> No.90455271

>>90454266
Ame is still up possibly because the affiliate thing but better safe then sorry.
Aqua and Mel is gone but i have Aqua:
https://files.catbox.moe/9eo6u4.rar

>> No.90455275

>>90455135
>now
Well theoretically, the creation of this "meme graduation" encourages more graduation.

>"Wait, I can leave Hololive, AND still get Holo money from merch and concerts if I want to? AND continue as an indie?"
when before it was
>"I'm leaving Holo and I'm completely on my own now"

Obviously this new method encourages more graduation.

>> No.90455284

>>90455131
So Mori constantly yapping about how the Holo bar is super high and only the best of the best talent are allowed to join was a lie?

>> No.90455314

>>90455048
She was literally SC #2 in 2023

>> No.90455326

>>90455095
It less about cover being bankrupt and more of cover not paying their staff bro. Do you think big corpos who underpays their staff are almost always bankrupt? fuck no some are even earning billions.

>> No.90455344

>>90445636
Not the sex ones please

>> No.90455354

Please for the love of God can /vt/ move the fuck on from Hololive already.

It's like 2hu faggots ignoring that Comiket is an entire world.

Or /jp/ refusing to acknowledge they're just coomers and make real otaku look bad.

Liking Hololive makes you a secondary vtuber fan.

>> No.90455366

>>90455275
>get Holo money from merch and concerts
This isn't a thing. New merch won't be made and they will not be part of any concerts.

>> No.90455373

>>90453265
>2 makes it a herd
based retard

>> No.90455379

>>90455271
Thank you

>> No.90455389

>>90455135
Instead of just letting them stream they are forced to do a lot of other holo homework. Voicerecordings, voicepacks, all the concert shit, Events.

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>>90455228
fuck it, anything to keep gamers whole

>> No.90455405

>>90455284
Or you and that other fag are splitting hairs about a rm post on a twitter handle.

>> No.90455406

>>90453037
Mori can't leave even if she wanted when she's got Universal's lock and chain around her balls.

>> No.90455430

>>90455284
I mean
Fauna can draw
That's a talent most people don't have
Then again, most people have at least one unique skill.
Wonder if I could be recruited to be in holostar for the ability to speak Chinese fluently

>> No.90455431

>>90455284
yes????

>> No.90455445

>>90454953
According to your headcanon they aren't paying them deliberately which isn't true because they don't know there is revision fee because the middleman don't tell them
You can stop pretending to be retarded now

>> No.90455489

>>90455389
Shouldn't they have known what they signed up for though

It's an idol company

>> No.90455498

>>90455445
>Blud thinks black companies who don't/underpays their staff isn't real
Grim

>> No.90455515

Is there some kind of clause saying they cant join other agencies if they take this meme graduation? If thats the case it obvious why hololive is doing this

>> No.90455544

>>90455115
Can I make you a few suggestions?

>> No.90455557

>>90455389
Never understand the appeal of concert as vtubers but I think the others listed is a good market to explore

>> No.90455559

>>90447262
>Unless she's a very good singer
If anything Cover doesn't use her enough. She probably has one of the best voices and range in Hololive. If anything she probably wants to sing more without streaming.

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>>90454809
Imagine going from being a cozy streamer to a small debuting company to having the responsibility to feed 600 employees and hundreds of greedy investors.

>> No.90455587

>>90455515
The talents would have to agreed to that by contract, otherwise it would be illegal

>> No.90455604

>>90455445
>deliberately
Here's the keyword here, I never said that, who knows they could be? But I never implied that at all in my previous posts
Try again

>> No.90455606

>>90455284
You are making up shit. That's not what Mori said. If anything, she said otherwise.
She said that Holo puts emphasis on a girl's ability to get along with other members and not being "catty". That no matter how skilled or talented a girl is - even if they are the most amazing dancer or singer or gamer, if they cannot pass the "vibe" check, they won't be getting in Hololive.

>> No.90455613

>>90455354
the kpop fans of /music/

>> No.90455635

>>90455563
>and hundreds of greedy investors.
Yeah greedy investors like fubuki herself

>> No.90455647

>>90455515
The IP of their character is still owned by Cover. This isn't a buyout deal several other chuubas have taken this year were the person behind the chuuba actually owns the character IP after graduation.

>> No.90455679 [DELETED] 

>>90455354
I literally only argue for hololive due to how much spite I have toward nijitroons

>> No.90455698

haha Mio's tarot meme
so funny

>> No.90455734

>>90455647
yes but can dooby join an agency for example or is this forbidden by Ame's affiliation contract

>> No.90455750

>>90445636
>>90453772
Anycolor and Cover are making Japanese companies look very bad here especially internationally

>> No.90455752

>>90455613
/mu/ is a shit board that never got any good music appearing on it

>> No.90455753

>>90455354
>please care about muh /lig/gers
No

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>>90446148
/1999/ ambassador reporting in!!
I don't know who the hell she was, I was just passing and see the sticky.
hope she get well soon or my condolences for her loss.

>> No.90455770

>>90454284
Chloe was into Hololive for the idol route. If anything she wants to sing more and stream less.

>> No.90455796

>>90455679
>>90455753
>Vtubing is only Hololive, Nijisanji and Twitch whores
Mental illness, please stop being willingly retarded.

>> No.90455802

>>90454536
Says the retard lol
Keep licking their boots for free my friend

>> No.90455815

>>90453286
is umisea cursed?

>> No.90455818

>>90454595
I'm pretty sure she graduates specifically to focus on her IRL idol group.
As for Matsuri, I don't think she's gonna follow suit, because she seems to take both jobs much easier. As funny as it sounds, for original holo-menhera, I think she's much more well-adjusted.
>>90454735
She made ALL the money she could ever need, it is now time for IRL vanity projects. And she definitely can make money from selling her face to fashion/cosmetics/perfume brands.

>> No.90455822

>>90455563
>get forced to work 2 hours of work a day
ACKKKK

>> No.90455829

>>90455544
don't suggest calli, bitch has a anti curse field on and the graduation curse is just going to land on (you)r oshi

>> No.90455832

>>90455489
That's not what they signed up for.

>> No.90455845

>>90455354
I literally only argue for hololive due to the amount of spite I have toward nijitroons

>> No.90455877

>>90455750
Oh ya making them look bad compared to woman moment EIEN, woman moment Vdere, irrelevent Pixel Link and Specialite, nobodies from brave affiliates, Grift ground zero Phase Connect and fellow japan disaster Kawaii

>> No.90455912

>>90453117
at the end of the day fubuki is still japanese and believes it is a persons duty to work themselves to death for their corporate overlords

>> No.90455918

>>90455606
That's not what I'm talking about at all. You're thinking of something else
She posted it with the phrasing I wrote on X.

>> No.90455925

>>90455877
>comparing literal whos to companies with big investments
Have fun with your negative profits and debt, investors!

>> No.90455933

>>90455389
They literally only work for 2 hours a day. If they can't bring themselves to stream after that I have no sympathy for them.

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>>90446148
/pcgia/ here

>> No.90455955

>>90455796
>muh indies

>> No.90455965

>>90455770
But she now has her rm idol group for that. If it takes off, people will know her as herself instead of "Sakamata Chloe".
When she can't cope with being in two idol groups at the same time, it's understandable that she'd leave one (and not the one with her sister) if she already has enough money to live comfortably for decades.
If Holo didn't go full idol she probably would've stayed

>> No.90455970

>>90445727
"They have always been bad"
The smear campaign already started huh.

>> No.90456007

>>90452696
Assuming you are a nijeet, nijisanji and every gender mixing agency has both yuri and yaoi, literally double as faggy

>> No.90456009

>>90455829
Don't care about her, I was going to suggest people like Noel or Matsuri.

>> No.90456024

>>90455734
Without breaking the rules of this board, let me phrase it like this.
Dooby is a character being played by [redacted] and owned by [redacted]. [redacted] can do whatever [redacted] wants with Dooby.
Ame is a character being played by [redacted] and owned by Cover. Cover can do with Ame whatever Cover wants because they own the Ame IP. [redacted] can not do anything with Ame unless Cover gives [redacted] the explicit permission to do so.

>> No.90456026

It feels like a domino effect is happening where the girls just suddenly realized that they actually CAN just leave and farm money as indies.
>use holo to cultivate dedicated fanbase
>go indie and take (portion of) fanbase with you
>get all the earnings while being able to do what you want
This is 100% benefitial to any vtuber and there is NOTHING a corpo can do against being "used" like this. The only reason it hasn't become commonplace until now is because the vtubers themselves were brainwashed into thinking it doesn't work or that they "need" Hololive.
It's a cynical thing and I don't like it, but it's very obvious that there's nothing to circumvent this process. The only way to prevent this would be if the going-indie stunt doesn't work out (and by that I mean truly doesn't work out, not just "hurr you became a low 4view"). And everyone knows it too, which is no doubt why people mocked kikeson et al. for their fall-offs so much.

No doubt Cover overworking the girls for idolshit is a contributing factor but I truly don't think it's the sole driver behind their decision to leave.
I don't really know if there's a solution to this issue either.

>> No.90456039

>>90455354
your argument would make sense IF only for the fact that literal every single fucking piece of content outside the walled garden is repulsive, empty of any thoughts and dead end
This is an industry where Hololive holds uncontested supremacy monopoly with literal no other competitor in the scene worldwide
There is Hololive or Fansly whores, no in between

>> No.90456046

WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.90456053

>>90455354
Give me some better alternatives, then.

>> No.90456088

>>90454735
It's like the senior developer working for FAANG quitting at early 30s and switched to being a freelancer. It's actually more common than you might think

>> No.90456113

>>90456053
nta but vshojo and phase has been consistent

>> No.90456118

>>90455796
Can't think of anyone relevant that doesn't fit these three criteria except phase
And phase doesn't differ too much from the latter

>> No.90456142
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>>90445636
Obligatory

>> No.90456175

>>90456113
>consistent
That's the least suitable word to describe them

>> No.90456184

>>90456053
Niji EN was actually good pre ethyria
some western indies are good
JP indies are good
Vspo is good
And of course, holo is still good. Just watch everything.

>> No.90456188

>>90453617
that only happens for terminations, graduations are fair game

>> No.90456187

HAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED HOLOKEKS
Which of your whores is going to graduate next, I wonder?

>> No.90456200

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.90456207

>>90456026
Only in the short term while people are saviorfagging. Once that ends there's no longer a corporation to continually advertise you with other talents, events and products. Especially to anyone outside jp.

>> No.90456209

>>90455031
>That's why I'll never understand the overwork meme. If you feel overworked then just don't stream
oh yes it's definitely the streaming part that's overworking them, yup. not the dance lesson ,vocal lessons, recording sessions, studio time, endless japanese corporate paperwork bullshit, it's streaming.

moron

>> No.90456223

I know that they been going this route start with Ame for people who want to quit cause they want to continue selling their merchs and sock peppet collabs
but will people still buy their merchs?
like would you buy Ame merchs now?

>> No.90456226
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90456226

>>90445636
wtf

>> No.90456251

but why? i don't get it?

>> No.90456267
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90456267

>>90446148
/ag/ reporting,
Save the Whales!

>> No.90456272

>>90455031
Different attitude, I suppose. Sakamata seems like she really likes to be in a spotlight, so she would have an intense FOMO is she declined big group projects like Hoshimatic or Holowitches and just coasted instead.

>> No.90456278

>>90456175
they have far fewer graduations than livers and organs, they don't fall prey into Japanese black company culture
I don't think anyone has ever graduated out of phase, just one termination, and a couple of reshuffling from vshojo into mythic

>> No.90456293

>>90456113
Consistently shit, yeah.

>> No.90456302

>>90455796
always has been, always will be

>> No.90456313

>>90455498
>Blud thinks black companies who don't/underpays their staff isn't real
I genuinely wonder how you can come up with this conclusion, a retard thinking process is fascinating
>>90455604
Maybe next time you should've done your reps first before going with your "what if" scenario so you don't make yourself look stupid

>> No.90456326

>>90456026
They make more money while in Hololive versus becoming indie. look at dooby and her dwindling viewers. CVoco and Aqua both admitting they made more when in Holo

>> No.90456330
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90456330

NIJIGODS, REPORT IN! TONIGGT WE WIN YET AGAIN

>> No.90456346

>>90456293
If being consistently shit means not losing my investment money then you do you

>> No.90456351
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90456351

Good riddance

>> No.90456364

>>90454595
>>90455818
>>90455965
What the fuck are you schizos talking about? Is this something your SEA dox discord decided is a thing and you're now repeating it like it's a fact?
Take your schizo med, drama tourist

>> No.90456367

>>90456024
He's asking if a talent's voice and self person is not Cover IP. Regardless, it depends on the contract, although it can be argued that certain elements within that contract could be illegal

>> No.90456378

>>90445636
damn how come everyone is leaving now?

>> No.90456382 [SPOILER] 
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90456382

Nothing personal kid.

>> No.90456399

The cull is starting. Cover knows about the over saturation for years but they still keep getting new hires. They can't just keep expanding without removing anyone anymore.

>> No.90456412

>>90456313
>Maybe next time
Roru strawmanning now that you've been caught lying as to what people had said

>> No.90456415

>>90456346
>my investment money
Didn’t realize I walked into /biz/.

>> No.90456424

>>90455013
If you call electing a guy who thinks video games cause mass shootings "winning".

>> No.90456449

>>90455832
Idol switch occurred between gen3 and gen4. Everyone past gen4, signed up for exactly this.

>> No.90456463

>>90446070
She showers for 30min but BEFORE gym?

>> No.90456464

>>90456278
You can clearly see how different the streamers are between Veibae (I know she quit already) and kson/Kirsche and Jelly
Meanwhile everyone in holo is consistently good, bland perhaps according to some

>> No.90456467

>>90456026
what>>90456207 said
Just look at Aqua. Marine and the rest talked about how she had it all figured out before leaving and most streams she did so far had technical difficulties.
She streamed as a job for five years and she still has no basic computer skills.
You can't imagine the amount of babysitting hololive provides them with 24/7 IT and activity support.

>> No.90456473

>>90456415
Poorfags out, this hobby is for spenders not beggars

>> No.90456474

>>90449117
They're in the stock market now
Meaning outsider retards and legit number schizos get to have an undisclosed amount of influence over cover's direction

>> No.90456477

Also
>investing in Phase Connect
My sides.

>> No.90456483

>>90456424
better than the guy who thinks video games turns cause trans, amiright?

>> No.90456486

>>90456382
I don’t get this meme

>> No.90456530

>>90456424
>>90456483
/pol/troons go back

>> No.90456531
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>> No.90456539

What, no one here knows the actual reason she is leaving? that sucks.

>> No.90456544

I’ll miss Bakamata.

>> No.90456545

>>90456424
The other side thinks they cause rape, so which did you pick?

>> No.90456550

>>90446122
if it wasnt for /ggg/, i would never think about gura. and i already dont come to 4chan daily. gura is gone.

>> No.90456557

>>90456226
We got him back, but is it worth the price?

>> No.90456563

>>90455354
only hololive JP, vspo JP, and karubi matter

>> No.90456578

>>90455234
>already
Anon, it's been 14 months since ReGLOSS.

>> No.90456594

>>90456184
>western indies
You can't be serious.

>> No.90456613

>>90446122
>this is what Chumkeks actually believe

>> No.90456635

>>90456539
>board has only had bait , falseflag, and drama threads for a year
>why doesn't anyone know anything?

Gee I fucking wonder why

>> No.90456637

It’s because I got off to her before bed yesterday
She saw it and felt so disgusted that she quit her job
I'm sorry bros…

>> No.90456686

>>90456424
The other side wants to censor and ban every opinion they disagree with and infect innocuous media with their blatant propaganda, I'd take some guy shitposting over a group of people that pretends to be good people but are in fact bootlickers of censorship and corpos

>> No.90456701

>>90456635
Cover gotten good at... covering things?

>> No.90456710

>>90456557
it's also over for him.

>> No.90456741

>>90455752
Are metalfags still a quarter of population or has that shifted in the past decade?

>> No.90456753

>>90455366
The meaning of affiliate really should be stickied since most dont seem to understand this (or english is too hard).

>> No.90456755

>>>/v/
>>>/pol/
>>>/lgbt/
Piss off

>> No.90456780

>>90456539
what do you think we are, psychics? We only know what they choose to tell us, and if you reject the "goals don't overlap anymore" and "health issues" explanation she gave, then all that is left is shitposts and rrats

>> No.90456788

>>90456755
Shut up poorfag

>> No.90456797

>>90456637
Your cock should be repossessed and sent to the silver mines for this crime.

>> No.90456833

>>90456686
Your lack of self-awareness would be amusing were it not so tragic.

>> No.90456839

>>90456635
>>90456701
That faggot was probably talking about ddoxfags' rrat about her rm idol group

>> No.90456854

>>90456788
>>>/biz/

>> No.90456862

>>90456467
NTA and offtopic but how many holomems are actually tech savvy enough to be able to stream on their own without mane-chan tardwrangling them?
Only ones that come to mind are CC, Botan and Luna

>> No.90456894

Kanata is losing another behind-the-scene lesbian girlfriend…

>> No.90456899
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>>90446122
>Vtubing will die when Gura leaves
No, it won't.

And you can argue she's already left. She won't stream consistently ever again for more than 2 weeks (and those 2 weeks will also be some big event like an EN debut or EN graduation)

>> No.90456930 [DELETED] 

>>90456797
What's tragic is that you faggots can't stay in your designated board

>> No.90456942

>>90456833
That post applies to you the most anon.

>> No.90456960

>>90456833
Go back to /pol/, pinko.

>> No.90456969

>they literally just flat-out admitted that the "affiliate" tag is just a PR smoke screen to hide the sadness and negativity that comes with a graduation
Jesus christ it really is like everyone suspected. They are panicking because graduations are being SPAMMED left and right.

>> No.90456999

>>90456862
They don't need to be. They can just hire someone to do it for them. They already have the money. And if they get streaming going again, they can continue to pay them.

>> No.90457008

wow whats happening to hololive? so many graduations this year lol

>> No.90457014

>>90456539
She literally went over her reasons for leaving. You would know if you just watched the stream.

>> No.90457015

>>90445636
Why did it have to be the sex design that graduates?

>> No.90457036

>>90456862
Would've said Korone, but Okayu found out this year during their offcollab that she was playing all her old console games through OBS with massive input lag.

>> No.90457049

>>90456833
What's tragic is that you faggots can't stay in your designated board

>> No.90457073

>>90456899
it’s hilariously vile that the only time she likes to stream is to take attention away from new kouhai who need all the boost they can get

>> No.90457096

>>90446047
>>90446765
you forgot the most important one:
>they can still make merch.

>> No.90457120

>>90456539
You need to watch streams for that

>> No.90457123

>>90455965
wait, is this true? Then I can understand what she meant with that IRL reason.

>> No.90457132

>>90456899
Its really funny because this is the exact same thing people have been saying about Ayame for years.

>> No.90457141

>>90456833
Sorry if I don't want Hololive or vtubing to be infected with your garbage anon. I hope you seek help for your mental illness

>> No.90457155

>>90445636
She made my oshi cry. Again. Was she just in for the money ? Should my oshi graduate next so she doesn't have to do a sobbing 30 minutes stream everytime someone wants out and screws off with her pile of money ?
That's so unfair. The ones who stay have to carry the legacy of the ones who leave. Will Hololive lose all its members and crumble ? Yagoo, do something.
The malediction continues... The last gen with 5 members is now 0... Sora, Azki, Roboco, Suisei, or Miko...

>> No.90457178

>>90446424
Iroha won't go unless her oshi Suisei goes.

>> No.90457195

See? Ame graduated for real. All her “maybe… someday…” was all bullshit.

>> No.90457201

>>90456960
This board is also surprisingly filled with pinko
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/89994052/

>> No.90457223

>>90457036
Oh Mel was guilty of that too, she only just recently figured that out as well. Color me surprised that Korone was nearly as ill-informed as Mel on games

>> No.90457227

>>90446265
>>90446214
>>90446312
this was always the endpoint of vtubers. just look at Gura.

>> No.90457255

>>90457073
More like Cover puts their foot down and forces her to because it brings new eyes and attention back to the branch.

>> No.90457286

>>90455234
Re_Gloss and Dev_Is are a separate "branch" so that the JP managers don't have more work on their plate. Consider them to be like EN is to JP, they're a separate thing with a harder focus on intergeneration co operation and idol activities rather than streaming. The investors want all other generations to make streaming secondary to idol work, like with the _ branches. Chloe's community isn't there for her idol side, but her cute girl failure side

>> No.90457306

>>90457096
They won't release new merch for affiliates. The character is kept alive just so they can keep being part of shit like holowitches.

>> No.90457325
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CONSOOM

>> No.90457347

>>90457123
NTA, but that's just what ddoxfags and JP ddoxfags said before. There hadn't been any real confirmation (of course)

>> No.90457389

>>90445636
>dont pay talents you hate
>they leave
ez

>> No.90457392

>>90456026
it's not actually an issue.

>> No.90457400

>>90457325
LINE MUST GO UP AND IT MUST GO UP FASTER

>> No.90457413

>>90446832
i hate that bitch

>> No.90457421

>>90456862
>offtopic but how many holomems are actually tech savvy
>Noel
>CC
>Botan
>Luna
>Shiori
>Fubuki
>Okayu
>Lamy
>Kaela

>> No.90457424

>>90457325
i have not bought a single one of these things

>> No.90457430

>>90457325
are you adding McMiko to this collage

>> No.90457443

>>90457325
Damn I could really go for some nacho fries right now.

>> No.90457473

>>90456364
Oh, sorry, anon, no she left because cover is a black corpo that doesn't pay their talents! She also couldn't accept one China policy so she had to go! And she absolutely hates idolshit! Hololive is doomed, you should watch PhaseConnect!
Is this more to your liking, brownoid?

>> No.90457478

>>90445636
NIJIGODS WE FUCKING WON

>> No.90457481

>>90457347
Nobody has said anything like that before. Which SEA facebook group did you get this from?

>> No.90457488
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>3rd girl in a row to state Cover is going in a bad direction
>Fox girl still quiet
So is FBK no longer the canary in the mine?

>> No.90457492

im kinda happy for this, when chloe debuted she stole a lot of noel artists, hopefully they will come back lol

>> No.90457493

>>90457325
why is nerissa culvers on there

>> No.90457516

Just woke up, the speculation last night was true? Damn...

>> No.90457518

>>90457120
>watch stream to find the reason
I'm not in the habit of listening to someone read TOS guidelines.

>> No.90457533

>>90457488
Fubuki probably has Elira level privilege since she's an OG and can't see the forest for the trees since she got hers

>> No.90457550

>>90457473
Nice meltdown, fake doxxfag. She is not part of any idol group.

>> No.90457586

>>90457488
Fubuki is the canary in the literal sense.
The coal miners leaving claim that their arms hurt and they aren't getting treated well by the boss

If fubuki leaves, its the canary dying from toxic gas form the mine, and the whole thing is about to explode.
She doesn't leave when a yellow flag pops up. She'll leave when its straight red. Or should I say, black.

>> No.90457590

>>90456026
what are some of the biggest indie?
I guess there is Ui but she got a lucky break with her meme song going viral

>> No.90457602

>>90446704
she's gonna die nanora

>> No.90457611

we did it 1000 replies

>> No.90457632
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>>90435953
I went to go check if someone just graduated last night when I saw this before going to bed. Relieved that there were no graduations, I went to sleep. I wake up to see this news now.

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>>90445636
It's over, the demon won...

>> No.90457643

>>90452594
"I like the new direction, fuck dem hoes that don't"

>> No.90457719

Well shit....... friendly reminder to treat yourself today. Take it easy.

>> No.90457730

>>90457481
>Nobody has said anything like that before
Look at /hlg/ archive
Heck, look at the comment section in that group's introduction vid. They were all months old at least (and in JP while I'm at it)
>Which SEA facebook group
No need for projection, anon

>> No.90457763

>>90456039
no, retard, a lot of Hololive is also bad.

>> No.90457768

>>90446765
Because that worked out sooo well for kizuna right?

>> No.90457786

>>90457488
Where did you see "bad direction" in Chloe's stream?

>> No.90457808

>>90456862
lol, managers are probably even more clueless about tech.

>> No.90457815

>>90457763
Such as?

>> No.90457819

>>90457730
I'm from /jp/ so I know you're full of shit. All of this shit was invented by your SEA doxx group.

>> No.90457820

>>90457488
Fubuki is a bootlicker and a big shareholder, she only cares about how much money the corpo is making.

>> No.90457842

>>90457325
>the Holobrony finally realizes.

>> No.90457855

>>90453536
japs are mentally ill

>> No.90457885

>>90457819
Are you saying that some SEAfags went as far as translating their comments into Japanese and commented in their vids months ago for this?

>> No.90457886

>>90457178
But Chloe’s oshi is still there… why…

>> No.90457915

>>90446806
baby orca in the oven

>> No.90457931
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>>90457430
and the whisky too. They are trying to give obesity, cancer and liver failure to their fans.

>> No.90457958

>>90457885
Go post a link to that video on /hlg/ right now. You can't get banned so you have no reason to not do it.

>> No.90457998

>>90457931
Breathable air could be a market, stop breathing today to own the future investors.

>> No.90458021

>Sakamata Chloe Graduation
Who? fuckmeat for ghosts?

>> No.90458030

>>90457931
>kavalan
I thought they are done with anything related to Taiwan

>> No.90458039

>>90457998
don't give ideas to Nestle.

>> No.90458070

>>90445636
Another one bites the dust

>> No.90458075

>>90446685
He should have taken the incel pill

>> No.90458088

>>90457886
Is Chloe's oshi Shion or something?

>> No.90458124

>>90458021
Yes, I am ghosts.

>> No.90458145

>>90458088
yes? how do you not know this

>> No.90458149

>>90457958
I won't be posting a full link, but here, their OG SYHXU8EE4wc for you to listen and check yourself

>> No.90458168

This year has been wild

>> No.90458224

>>90458145
Because I don't follow Shion / Chloe 24/7 like what most folk do and only know that Chloe's oshi is Shion because of fanart I see on here.

>> No.90458247

>>90458149
Why are you posting a video that has nothing to do with Chloe?

>> No.90458311

>>90455563
Now imagine those deadweight middle managers and investors you are feeding also make your job harder, restrict what you can do and blocking your projects.

>> No.90458339

>>90458168
>Lost A-chan, Aqua, Ame, and now Chloe
>Dooby basically beelined it straight to the "top" indie girls crowd
>All of the girls minus A-chan have at least hinted that Cover is doing something in the background so fucky they're willing to quit over it
>GG, Biboo, Kobo and even Bae are all fighting to be the "new Gura"
yea

>> No.90458369

>>90445636
ORCA HATE

>> No.90458373

>>90457998
Have you never seen total recall?

>> No.90458413

>>90452543
nah ayame cute

>> No.90458442

cover is going to shit, what the fuck is happening?

>> No.90458447

>>90458373
Any of it didn't happen, it was all in arnie's head

>> No.90458540

>>90458442
More than likely full throttle on active girls doing their own concerts instead of skinwalker allegations
Add to that more corpo sponsorships which means the girls opinions on the product/service comes second to the paycheck for Cover

>> No.90458569

>>90458311
It's what Steve Jobs used to call Toner Heads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlBjNmXvqIM

>> No.90458577

>>90447777
Quads of truth

>> No.90458588

Just woke up, can't believe Chloe is graduating before laplus and gura. It's no real loss to me though, Chloe never really did much. She was probably the most popular girl on debut, but she never lived up to it.

>> No.90458632

>>90458569
the irony of steve jobs calling other people useless

>> No.90458663

>>90456207
Bro even just being a low 4 view is more money than most people will ever make, there is no failstate here, they've got it made.

>> No.90458666

>>90458339
>Fighting to be the next gura
....but they actually stream tho

>> No.90458667

If the Hoyos are not lying and they actually are not millionaires with the amount of viewers they have, then the optimal play for almost everyone is to use Hoyo to get popular and then leave the slave contract and get to keep all the money to themselves.

>> No.90458676
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90458676

Queue is real...

>> No.90458693

Why are nijisisters so boastful when they had it worse

>> No.90458724

>>90458676
That sounds like the exact opposite.
That sounds like "I'm sticking to this shit until they announce my death on stream"

>> No.90458730

>>90455766
Wtf is /1999/?

>> No.90458754

it should have been La+

>> No.90458766

>>90458247
Yeah, I wonder why. Not taking a longer holiday for this. Only brought it up because multiple other anons mentioned it and the other guy (you?) kept asking for verification that it wasn't just some SEAfags group

>> No.90458773

>>90458676
based. threaten them with suicide.

>> No.90458795

>>90458666
I meant to say their personality is shifting to "fill" in the Gura style of personality. You see it most in the more recent of biboo streams

>> No.90458801

>>90458754
give it some time

>> No.90458803

>>90458663
It's not that much money, but it's a good amount for how little effort they have to put in.

>> No.90458813

>>90458724
No, she says it's over once she's done everything she wants to do. Same as Marine.

>> No.90458860

>>90458339
>>All of the girls minus A-chan have at least hinted that Cover is doing something in the background so fucky they're willing to quit over it
Meanwhile Lui, Marine, Koyori, Suisei, Lamy and several others praised and / or justified Cover / Hololive time over time, but I guess their opinions don't count

>> No.90458887

>>90456412
>lying
How so? I just thought that you're being dishonest and pretending to be retarded but turns out you're actually retarded that you don't even know what happen on that case yet you use for your argument, so yeah sorry that you're actually retarded.

>> No.90458906

>>90458766
She's not part of that group you stupid SEAtard.
I KNEW this was some trash you learned from your SEAbook group.

>> No.90458935

>>90458339
>>All of the girls minus A-chan have at least hinted that Cover is doing something in the background so fucky they're willing to quit over it
Tourist. Piss off.

>> No.90458940

>>90458795
Is that wrong, then? Aiming to be the best shouldn't be a bad thing last I checked (even more so when said "best" has been basically vacating her spot for months)

>> No.90458947

hey guys, I'm getting hungry, what should I eat (has to be in my fridge)

>> No.90458960

>>90458339
>>90458339
except all those girls are way different than gura. Gura is lower energy, more chilled out, than those girls Biboo is high gamer energy, Gigi is loud and stupid energy, Bae is loud australian thats actually kind of smart. I dont know much about kobo but she collabs with guys and is a brat, not like gura at all

>> No.90458976

>>90458860
Nta but do keep in mind people (and shitters) will easily discard this and say they're just bootlickers and or being paid extra to placate the fans.

>> No.90458988

>>90458947
Family of 4

>> No.90459008

>>90458676
botan has no future outside of cover

>> No.90459014

>>90458960
thanks 4chan, making me quote the wrong post

>> No.90459027

>>90458813
Then all Cover has to do is not let her do the last thing she wants to do.

>> No.90459033

>>90458947
Morning BLT and and nice cold orange juice

>> No.90459048

>>90446806
Ghosts, probably

>> No.90459079

>>90458906
Yeah, just like not!Matsuri isn't, too
Whatever, I'm not going to entertain you anymore. You sound like a retard who is in denial (why, though?) and assuming everything came from the "SEAbook group" boogeyman even when provided with freaking JP comments. Keep going.

>> No.90459092

>>90458795
you are comparing the worst singer of EN to one of the "good"

>> No.90459131

>>90458935
Are you saying A-chan said something or what?

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>

>> No.90459183

>>90458724
Sounds more like "f the affiliate thing". She will have proper graduation.

>> No.90459184

>>90459014
>>90458960
I'm not saying they're direct ports of Gura, i'm saying they want to take her "spot"
Realistically, the closest "Gura" out there (personality wise) is probably that indie slime girl that streams with her mom, or Girl_DM

>> No.90459197

>>90459131
NTA and don't know what he meant, but plenty of girls (both popular and less-popular) praised Cover / Hololive and enjoy their growth despite difficulties it brings

>> No.90459251

People make it out to be a controversial opinion but reincarnations are not the same vtuber, even if the actress is the same.
For a recent example, Amelia Watson the vtuber is the gestalt sum of the actress' personality, the character she played, the audience involved narrative that shaped her as she went along, and the interactions between her and the other vtubers in Hololive.
Dooby has the same actress, but the character will be/is different, even slightly, the people she will interact with will be/are different, her community will be different, and even her content will be different.
I've learned that this is true enlightenment when it comes to vtubing.
I have never cared about roommates and doxxfaggotry or tenseis ever since. Hell, I don't give a shit about what happens company side either, when people start talking about Cover my eyes glaze over. I'm just here for HOLOLIVE.
I don't care about graduations (that much) either, it's more like being sad that a show I liked ends and never gets anymore episodes, it's not like I don't have other shows to watch. Just like I'll still have Hololive's CGDCT to enjoy in the future.
Granted, if I was more of a gachikoi sort of watcher that was legit parasocial (imo there's nothing wrong with being so with the talent I'd be more affected, I understand that, but as is this shit is just entertainment for me.

>> No.90459296

>holo has been increasingly moving away from streaming activities
>more japan tv slop variety shows
>more voicepacks
>more merch
>more recording for bullshit things the fans never get to see
>holoearth containing ZERO hololive references to both fans and talents
It's never been more over. Time to go back to pre-2010s eroge. Those girls will never betray me. They will never abandon me. I should've never listened to my zoomer friends. Vtubers were destined to fail.

>> No.90459301

>>90459251
>My justification for ditching Gura when she leaves - "Loyal" Chumbud

>> No.90459300

I’ve done nothing but read and talk about this graduation for 5 hours…

>> No.90459305

>>90459131
I'm saying none of them hinted at anything. Ame and Aqua were both two of the most socially awkward members and ones the least interested in the idol/singing/dancing side of things and just wanna play games, and hence likely left as concerts and other events became more frequent. Not sure about why Chloe would leave though. Sad stuff.

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>>90447062
>Her throat is also in a bad condition.
MORI CALLIOPE DID IT IN A CAVE! WITH BRONCHITIS!

>> No.90459321

>>90459079
Matsuri is part of it and Chloe isn't. What's the point of repeating such an obvious lie?
If you truly believe this it must be because you learned it from your SEA dox group where everyone believes the same shit but doesn't have the brains to actually recognize different voices.
You didn't provide any JP comments.

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The way things used to be
non-corpo --> 0 - 200 ccv
corpo --> 10,000+ ccv

The way things are now
non-corpo --> 0 - 10,000 ccv
corpo --> 5000+ ccv

Basically the advantage corpos had in the market has been eroded. These days the big advantage corpos can offer people is various 3D concerts and events, but not everyone is into that stuff. Showing their weakness in modern times: it used to be the case that corpos would wall off their precious talents from access by outsiders, but these days things are actually reversed. If the corpo wants to keep people employed they have to allow them outside collabs.

there's also a huge rush to graduate in general, because the first graduations get the biggest boost upon leaving. Whereas the 10th and 11th barely get any boost

>> No.90459353

>>90459008
I mean grandma is already in the retirement age
she can just live on 401k pension after

>> No.90459355

>>90459296
>>more recording for bullshit things the fans never get to see
I never understood this part. Who gets to see it then?

>> No.90459396

>>90459337
This is some pretty interesting pro-indie delusional cope. Is this a new thing people do now?

>> No.90459449

>>90459355
The people who are really crazy about 3D shows are the japanese. The western market doesn't care that much, they just want streams. Often when the girls take huge extended vacations to record a single 3D show, they are doing more harm to themselves than good. In the western market at least

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>>90458676
>Botan actually dies on stream

>> No.90459488

>>90459175
Having to work 9-5 for two days every two months or so was too much for them.

>> No.90459513

>>90459452
You'd probably hear the cocking of the gun and then the gunshot.

>> No.90459526

>>90459337
Actual indies have to rely on corpo to get fame at the start
Pillowdear doesn't count, she targeted on a niche market

>> No.90459553

>>90458676
Good riddance. Nobody cares about her after she became a cumdump for pro SF players.

>> No.90459554

>>90447078
>Forced homo collabs incoming. Yagoo WILL save his boys even if he has to nuke the girls to do it.

>> No.90459603

I thought haato was going to grad since years ago
but shes still around

>> No.90459606

>>90459526
This exactly. Most of the big indies started out as corpo vtubers and retained a part of their audience, that's it. The few exceptions are just that, exceptions, and indies have about a one-in-a-million chance of being one of those.

>> No.90459613

>>90459301
ngl I've never seen a Gura stream, nor am I subbed to her
I was contrarian in year one because of how popular she got and never bothered to sub especially ever since her "semi retirement"

>> No.90459630

>>90447062
>Also this is more of an affiliation as she can supposedly come back, and she mentioned that even she doesn't really understand the terms and conditions.
Okay this is bad. This means she doesn't have her own legal representation reading the new terms and advising her on what they mean and what she should do. Typical of a corpo that is only out for themselves.

>> No.90459708

>>90459355
As far as I know, there can be permission problems or copyright holder fallout if even things like how a product is presented incorrectly. So let's say a girl needs to record an advert collab with some food company, and the food company doesn't like the outcome, they can just veto it and all the time spent scripting, drafting, and recording the advert is wasted.
The girl wastes her time. They waste time they could have spent streaming. They waste time they could have spent practicing singing or dancing. They waste time they could have been handling real life shit.
There's also a lot more shit that could happen like a middle manager suddenly just deciding that a project isn't worth pursuing even if a talent is paying entirely out of pocket to fund something. Hololive has become too corpo.

>> No.90459723

>>90459337
>non-corpo --> 0 - 10,000 ccv
lol
>corpo --> 5000+ ccv
lmao even

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im gonna miss chloe mostly because she's sexy as fuck

>huge tits
>white hair
>smug
>retarded

>> No.90459740

>>90459449
The fans still get to see 3D shows.

>> No.90459793

>>90447929
Dev_is is a fucking failure of a project, if this is the case then the future of HL is very grim

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>>90459732
why do the sexiest holos always leave first

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>Still subbed to her PL (that was colonized by gaijin cock before Hololive)

We're reclaiming her JPbros

>> No.90459832

>>90458676
Man, I feel like Botan has been depressed ever since her loss.
Hopefully she recovers soon.

>> No.90459852

>>90457325
You should've realized that the moment they started to sell you merch like any modestly youtuber does these days.

>> No.90459860

Is chloe's asmr archived anywhere? I want to have a quick fap before she leaves..

>> No.90459864

>>90459795
The coomers gravitate towards them but then scared the talent away

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>>90459526
>Pillowdear doesn't count
she's too strong...

>> No.90459882

>>90459708
Bad takes are just part of the recording process. I don't think that's what the phrase "more recording for bullshit things the fans never get to see" meant.

>> No.90459893

>>90459513
nya poka

>> No.90459921

>>90459795
Because they're spoiled by their model and think they can just cruise off of it. A lot of the hardest working holos have or had ugly janky models..

>> No.90459977

>>90453187
About time

>> No.90460000

I'm gonna miss that model. It's one of the best tit models I've seen in a long time and I enjoyed how much of a gremlin she was.

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>>90459852
At first I thought it was just a jp thing (which technically is) but now they are direct about it with all branches.

>> No.90460010

>>90459723
look at Mint Fantome. Back in the day she was one of the top indies on youtube....with 200 ccv.
These days she is once again one of the top indies on youtube...with 4000 ccv.

Times have changed. The corpo advantage is disappearing

>> No.90460014

>>90459921
All Holo models are janky. Ugly is a matter of opinion and I still say none of them are sexy by themselves and the fanart does the heavy work.

>> No.90460033

>>90459337
>non-corpo --> 0 - 10,000 ccv
What?

>> No.90460091

>>90460010
Yeah, and she is an ex-corpo, not a true indie. It's like saying Dooby represents indies when majority of her fans are holofags
Even Fillian would've been better example

>> No.90460102

>>90459337
Number monkey not being brain damaged for 5 minutes, impossible

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they really made a poor's man chloe model before the real graduates huh... Now it all makes sense.

>> No.90460132

>>90460102
Not a number monkey. If he was one, he would get his numbers straight.

>> No.90460142

>>90460102
That's a phasecuck falseflagging as /lig/ger

>> No.90460162

>>90460132
>number monkey
>getting numbers straight

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>>90459554
Baaased and you lil bro won't do shit

>> No.90460200

>>90460104
I hate this design, everything about it feels off and unbalanced. I don't think I've hated a design this much since kiara.

>> No.90460218

>>90460033
The ceiling for non-corpo vtubers has been erased. It used to be unthinkable a non-corpo vtuber could ever reach as high as 1k. These days the sky is the limit, they can get to 10k if they want

>> No.90460233

>>90460104
Her face looks wonky

>> No.90460246

>>90445636
I really loved her(
At this point it really looks like cover decided to go full in niji mode with quantity over quality and they have an actual graduation schedule of releasing their top talents like every 2-3 month...who's next? it will be definitely someone from gen 0...

>> No.90460273

>>90459337
I wish Lulu got more views then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uorw3iqoPUs

>> No.90460294

>>90460104
Why are her arms so skinny

>> No.90460302

>>90460218
Go to /lig/, post that, and we shall see what you get

>> No.90460340

>>90460104
this makes me chuckle

>> No.90460343

>Indie can't reach high numbers!
https://www.youtube.com/@ui_shig

>> No.90460376

>>90460091
>no true indie fallacy
In this context they count because we're specifically talking about why someone might choose to graduate, it's just no longer true that leaving your corpo necessarily decimates your audience.

>> No.90460380

>>90459630
In contrast you have Vshojo forcing their talents to talk to a lawyer before signing them so they can explain their contracts to them so they understand them.

>> No.90460382

>>90460343
That's a honorary Holo

>> No.90460405

>>90460200
Kiara's model accomplishes something impossible.
A girl with large boobs and a short miniskirt who is not attractive whatsoever

>> No.90460407

i fucking hate this, also
>Towards a More Inclusive and Diverse Production
...is this happening because of some DEI bullshit?

>> No.90460410

>>90460273
>does fleshie garbage
She can fuck off

>> No.90460414

>>90458676
Is she okay?

>> No.90460470

>>90460343
>the most successful leech

>> No.90460475

>>90460405
That's because Kiara is repulsive overall.

>> No.90460504

>>90460302
That's what /big/ is for

>> No.90460516

>>90447628
>>90447700
Mio got pregnant and had a baby. I'm the father, if you must know.

>> No.90460560

>>90460414
Botan has been in a doom and loom mode for a while now, hopefully with Nene back she can cheer up more.

>> No.90460650

>>90460376
it never was true, but on the flip side you have Rica and quinn. Just because you graduate from a corpo is no gurantee that you'll bring the audience over

>> No.90460670

>>90447771
>They love their fans and their character.
Marine absolutely doesn't.

>> No.90460673

>>90460006
Any 2view tuber tries to sell shit and gets paid promotions, Hololive having grown the way it did was going to be an obvious target.

>> No.90460699

>>90460475
I see a lot of people say shit like this but I don't trust any of these opinions because most of them are because of the halo effect. If she had a different, popular design, people would be praising her work ethic instead.

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I only watched her around her debut but man, this got to me. The everyday live I take for granted WILL come crumbling down, I was just looking the other way and pretending it wouldn't, the illusion has been broken. Now I'm just depressed, what's the point of anything?

>> No.90460714

>>90458339
>>Lost A-chan, Aqua, Ame, and now Chloe
You left out Mel

>> No.90460716

Are you going to follow her PL?

>> No.90460740

>>90460670
cope and seethe

>> No.90460744

>>90460670
I'd say she loves maximizing her profit via hilarious antics FOR her fans, but yea
She definitely would pepper spray the most attractive Marine-fan

>> No.90460756

>>90460010
>These days she is once again one of the top indies on youtube...with 4000 ccv.
And the best HoloJP member easily pulls in 40k ccv

>> No.90460770

>>90460714
whomst?

>> No.90460781

>>90460650
The males never succeed outside of corpos
Meanwhile their total view drops from collabing with females are significant

>> No.90460808

>>90460781
Shoto is an indie and he's doing pretty well

>> No.90460822

>>90460756
Yet somehow their salary is about the same, if you take into account Company taxes and all that.

>> No.90460826

>>90460218
mostly only if they were in a corpo and left

>> No.90460828

working your talents to death like they're fucking salarymen is going to end cover.
they think more work = more good, but when these girls literally live and die by the health of their voice/throat that policy is going to push a lot of girls to quit earlier.
combine that with the fact that the work they want them to do isn't streaming? chloe isn't the last who's going to leave for the exact same reasons

>> No.90460833

>>90460716
I've only watched her 5-10 times at most and that was because I had no one else to watch, so no.

>> No.90460842

thanks for the good times stinky orca

>> No.90460873

>>90445636
>Whoreca gone
Good. I've been saying since day 1 she's a blight on her gen and now they can heal.
Hopefully Raora is next.

>> No.90460883

>>90460822
Suuuure

>> No.90460889

The Hololive Dream is Collapsing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzLhXesNkCI

>> No.90460893

>>90459296
>holoearth containing ZERO hololive references to both fans and talents
That's because all the cosmetics that do have hololive references are locked behind maximum FOMO

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>>90460756

>> No.90460894

>>90460828
2 hours a day
4 days a month
Literally slavery

>> No.90460903

>>90460828
WeHaveReserves.trope

>> No.90460920

>>90460873
>raora
>not elizabeth
???

>> No.90460928

>>90460895
DELETE THIS

>> No.90460940

>>90460716
lolno

>> No.90460962

>>90445636
who do holotrannies get stickies?
they fucking have like 1000 talents, who cares

>> No.90460970

>>90445636
I have no idea whats going on

>> No.90460971

>>90460873
The only actual blight that left is Sana
I don't hate her
It's just that her model is fucking hideous

>> No.90460989

>>90460920
Elizabeth doesn't have Ren Zotto shaped nipples.

>> No.90460991

>>90460873
>Hopefully Raora is next.
this but fuwamoco

>> No.90460993

>>90460962
holoboard
phaseseethe about it

>> No.90461006

>>90460380
I set them up, you knock them down fellow VShobro!

>> No.90461012

>>90460971
her personality sucked too.
I'm glad she got axed because it was a quick lesson to cover that nepotism doesn't pay. Imagine if something like the Clique existed in Hololive

>> No.90461030

>>90460895
I remember her.
Hmmm...

>> No.90461037

>majority of your income comes from atreaming
>Btw you have mandatory idol lessons that take you away from that
I cant wait for fauna to escape from hilolive

>> No.90461050

>>90460962
Holoboard
Seethe

>> No.90461051

>>90460991
I always wonder what a coombait version of fuwamoco would be

>> No.90461066

>>90460895
Is this Aqua?

>> No.90461087

>>90460962
Pomu and Selen got stickies, retard.

>> No.90461093

>>90461066
No, it's Sakuna

>> No.90461095

>>90460993
>Holoboard
the amount of dropoff once Ame quit proves its really "Gura/Ame in Hololive" board

>> No.90461109

>>90457325
None of this shit bothers me at all. I get bombarded by ads daily, this is just pissing into the ocean. At least here, I get to feel like I'm supporting my oshi. Maybe I'll change my mind if they start pushing NFTs or something.

>> No.90461147

>>90460962
Forget not watching streams you're not even a fucking threadreader, you subhuman. Others besides Holos have gotten stickies before. Which discord did you come from? Let me guess, bvtm?

>> No.90461148

>>90461006
If shit talking black companies makes me a Vshobro then just call me Ironmouse. Total ブラック企業 death.

>> No.90461159

>>90461012
>nepotism doesn't pay
Mio.

>> No.90461167

>>90457325
Screw streams, this is the future of vtubers

>> No.90461190

>>90460770
Mel

>> No.90461194

>>90460895
>Listens to her for the first time
>Hear that laugh
HOLYSHIT SHE IS BACK
Man, Hololive really screwed up.

>> No.90461230

>>90457325
I like honda, taco bell, and culvers alreadt

>> No.90461232

>>90460808
He was a Luxiem-adjacent. I've yet to see any indie male not related whatsoever to Holo / Niji / VSpo (not a member, or ex-member, or publicly friend with) being successful

>> No.90461243

I wonder how many girls need to graduate before Cover realizes that the direction they're going is making the girls quit.

>> No.90461252

>>90461012
>nepotism doesn't pay
Gamers is literally Fubuki's nepotism gen

>> No.90461259

>>90448542
Yeah, but, compared to Niji, even the worst Holo is big, lmao.

>> No.90461262

Did chloe have any good juicy members content? if someone scrapes all of the members streams I would look into downloading it if it had anything

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>Every single ex-holo was/is a male collaber
So are all of you going to be okay with it? Pretend it's a one off thing? Or justify ditching them?

>> No.90461272

>>90461243
I would say at max 3 more

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>> No.90461280

>>90457325
unlike indies who never take sponsorships or advertise products or sell merch
you retards do understand that for streamers there is far far more money in sponsored streams and deals than there is in subs or tips right?

>> No.90461284

>>90461012
the entirety of gamers was a nepo gen

>> No.90461289

>>90461190
He probably left her out because she was TERMINATED.

>> No.90461300

>>90461252
I don't think so, for Mio maybe, but Koro-san and Okayu do great by themselves.

>> No.90461321

>>90461262
>begging for hololive leaks
>on 4chan of all places
Back to Discord, tourist

>> No.90461340

>>90461300
holy shit where do you newfags come from???

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>>90446148
/vsj+/ here. Thinking about how Loutlot said that there were some people prepared to join VShojo JP but couldn't yet for reasons he could not state. And how the 4 JP members we just got were all 2views that couldn't possibly have been who he was talking about with that statement. And how there were multiple hints of there being 5 JP's instead of the 4 that debuted.

>> No.90461348

>>90461243
see >>90449039

>> No.90461357

>>90459630
She did not sign anything, she means if she asks if she can comeback

>> No.90461371

>>90461289
Maybe but his choice of wording was poor if that was the case.
Whether terminated or graduated, we LOST Mel just as much as we lost the others

>> No.90461394

Chloe was kind of a problem child wasn't she?

>> No.90461397

>A literal nobody graduates
Wake me up when something real happens.

>> No.90461405

>>90461300
Nepotism isn't inherently bad. It just means getting a job thanks to connection with those with influence / power in the company.

>> No.90461418

>>90461280
Yeah but pushing cancer, obesity, alcoholism and Chinese spyware to people who support you ain't ethical and is just greed. Surely they can find better sponsors.

>> No.90461436

>>90460895
>>90460895
Damn, I can't believe I missed the meltdown when this happened.

>> No.90461446

>>90461405
It's bad for us audience if they scraped the more suitable ones

>> No.90461449
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When will we get Nijisanji "affiliates"

>> No.90461454

>>90454085
GEEGA was right

>> No.90461457

>>90449039
>four if you count coco
Not even. "Coco's" issue obviously wasn't the direction of Hololive, but Vtubing itself.

>> No.90461458

>>90461276
>Chloe
>Lesbian
There are no carpet munchers.

>> No.90461490

>>90461418
>corporations are greedy for sponsorship
Many such cases

>> No.90461496

>>90461243
When at least 10-20% of Hololive graduates in a year
3 girls a year in good terms (technically 2 since Chloe is leaving next year) is sad but not policy-breaking, especially when many girls are still happy with their growth

>> No.90461503

>>90461454
Who? Lol.

>> No.90461519

>>90461340
But Mio WAS nepo-hired, anon. Fubuki managed to snag her in because she (Mio) was too late to sign up for Gen 2 and she wasn't waiting for Gen 3 to arrive.
>>90461371
Yeah but if you're terminated it usually means you left on BAD TERMS! This is why she (mel) isn't thought of fondly unlike members who graduated and leave on GOOD TERMS.

>> No.90461531

>>90461457
retard

>> No.90461541

>>90461405
It's not even pure nepotism. It got them the audition, but they still have to pass it.

>> No.90461555

>>90461531
Fuck off tourist

>> No.90461597

>>90461341
5bros here is how we can still win!

>> No.90461601

>>90448491
WHY IS MARINE THERE

>> No.90461603

Anyone gaining any remote bit of hope from this "affiliate status" that they'll be back or something are the same people who unironically believe a company keeps your name on file when you fail a job interview.

>> No.90461611

>>90461519
Mel didn't really leave on bad terms. Both she and Cover seem to be amicable enough. Cover showed regrets (but it was something they had to do) and Mel admitted fault even in her rm.
Holo members and fans definitely think of her as fondly as anyone else

>> No.90461637
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Viva la revolución

>> No.90461693

>>90461611
>Graduation: Good terms.
>Termination: Bad terms.
Mel may have made a mistake and got to say goodbye to everyone but the point still stands.

>> No.90461711

>>90461280
>unlike indies who never take sponsorships
Doki literally got sponsored by NIKKE last month but you carry on.

>> No.90461713

>>90461601
They are too lazy to crop it out please understand

>> No.90461714

>>90461405
Nepotism almost inevitably means you are getting the wrong person for the job.
Imagine in a country of 320 million people, the best possible person to run the country *just happens to be* the previous president's son. Wow what a coincidence!
It's not a good sign, it means you aren't picking people for competence but for associations.

>> No.90461720

>>90461611
>sorry teehee we’re suddenly gutting you over a minor offense but we wuv you

>> No.90461729

if /lig/ wasnt a dying rotting shithole i would be more excited for hololive graduations

>> No.90461760

>>90461714
Gamers are literally the best generation though.

>> No.90461767

>>90461729
Dying? that thread is almost as fast as Global sometimes

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>>90461597
That 5th portal has been the bane of my existence since this image was fully revealed. That and the big gap inbetween the 4 of them that seems perfect to slot someone in the center.

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>>90461458
then what is she doing here!?

>> No.90461830

>>90461603
Counter-argument: People try going the indie route for a while, retain some followers, realize doing it all on your own kinda sucks, come back. Hasn't happened yet, but I wouldn't rule it out. We'll see.

>>90457325
Meanwhile Filian routinely dedicates 3+ hours to playing boring games she was paid to play.

>> No.90461831

>>90461603
Funny you said this, but my company does keep a shortlist of failed, but impressive enough applicants to contact if we have a position open within 5 months (no idea who initially decided that duration).
Having most positions filled even before the recruitment posted and interviews happened probably plays a part in that, but I'm not part of HR

>> No.90461851

>>90461767
they're getting carried by a schizo, and making a new split every other week

>> No.90461861

>>90461603
The "new direction" could be experimental or the whims of a new senior manager. If the experiment fails for the guy in charge get kicked out, they could potentially revert. I don't think it's likely to happen, but it wouldn't be impossible for there to be at least 1 returning member in the future. People leave and return to companies in the real world too.

>> No.90461879

>>90461341
but why would chloe then choose affiliation over graduation?

>> No.90461891

>>90461767
yeah, full of schizos

>> No.90461895

>>90461784
2 people went through the same portal in the animation

>> No.90461932

>>90456862
>>90457421
>NTA and offtopic but how many holomems are actually tech savvy enough to be able to stream on their own without mane-chan tardwrangling them?
Add Kronii, she was the the other girls of council/promise went to for help if they had tech problems too.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftf_UPITZf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se801E62wac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xalLOc9_BPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QslX4fi79x0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l464wzmblcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atZTqI34Ev8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9uCZj889UQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7huLB8xg9LI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PcByDW6hFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lja9ir9SzH8

>> No.90461974

>>90461458
Miko is the only lesbian I'm sure of. Haven't really seen any strong evidence for the other members.

>> No.90462003

>>90461974
>Miko
anon, i...

>> No.90462029

>>90451367
Nah Gura was swamped with shit until the fall. She and Kiara for example had to stay behind after Holofest when the others when home and Gura started the Taiwan promotions. Gura tried to get Chole to have Umisea together one last time before Aqua let but Chole refused. Then there's the birthday 3D, Breaking Dimensions and Myth 3D all within two months with all the dance routines you have learn. Didn't help that Gura cracked her knee in the spring.

>> No.90462053

>>90457325
>パワフルグーニングPC
What did they mean by this?

>> No.90462057 [DELETED] 

I'm very certain Enna has a boyfriend now

>> No.90462105

>>90460010
Mint is an exception, the same as Doki, and also Dooby. They were the first high-profile English-speaking corpo-to-indie vtubers, and Doki especially had a gigantic marketing campaign that almost put NijiEN six feet under. Everyone that comes after them in the English-speaking space will face diminishing returns, especially if they're not gigantic stars like Ame was.
Also, the corpo advantage is not just free views, it's the community that surrounds the corpo. JP vtubers like Aqua and Chloe only had non-JP viewers because they were part of Hololive. Notice how no one in the English-speaking space knows about Aqua's new identity, nor do they give a shit because she's not related to Hololive, the group they're aware of. This brings things back to how they were before 2020, with JP vtubers being strictly Japanese and vice-versa. It's good for JP purists, but the money involved will decrease substantially, and I expect the oversaturated Vtuber market to shrink as a whole.

>> No.90462114

>>90461449
I can not see the rose as anything other than Rosemi. With any luck Riku will just ditch EN and let them keep their asssets and Wose can be free

>> No.90462117

strange, there's some cracks starting to show in the garden's walls lately.

>> No.90462121

>>90461879
It was never a choice.

>> No.90462134

Would Holo allow collabs with their former members?

>> No.90462150
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In retrospect, we should have seen Chloe's graduation coming sooner, but we chugged a lot of the hints off as her being sick (she was) and overworked (she also was).

- didn’t join HoloGTA due to work, but still streamed over it ½ the time and sounded upset
- didn’t join any of the other big stream projects recently
- ditched Hoshimatic, Suisei saying we should hear why from Sakamata herself
- retreated in her small friend group
She was never really the same after her ghost incident, falling back on being a slop stream monster. Mostly solo streams, but this past year her energy’s been pretty much gone.

She’s only been gaming, no dreams of big stream and only had 6 collabs on her channel with members outside of Kanaken and HoloX. Only 2 of those actually didn't include any of those members.
It’s rare for a Holomem to have such a small group of Holo friends to regularly interact with, outside her Gen. Even with Hoshimatic and Holo Witches, outside of a few meals, she seems to have treated them as business in the end.
That’s probably the saddest part, she might have ended up seeing Hololive as just another unfulfilling job, instead of a job, and a warm, familiar place, like the other girls say.

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>>90461974
>strong evidence
Not how it works. Strong evidence is what you need to prove they are bi instead of pure lesbian.

>> No.90462203

>>90448928
sure sis

>> No.90462212

>>90460091
>and she is an ex-corpo, not a true indie
She is an ex-corpo because she was one of the biggest indies before becoming a corpo. She just went back to being one of the biggest indies like she was before niji.

>> No.90462217

>>90456113
Oh no is that interest in Harry Potter????

>> No.90462243

is this where all of you pretend you know about sakamata when you've never watched a single stream of hers, don't understand japanese, and simply parrot information from elsewhere?

>> No.90462254

>>90460962
You weren't here for Selen and Pomu huh? Thanks for exposing yourself newfag.

>> No.90462281

>>90461831
I suppose it works differently from company to company. From my experience, they usually have who they want in mind from the get go but all the other applicants are basically just fodder and usually don't care enough to actually keep their names.
Sometimes people basically have the job already before the interview but you have to go through the formal process.

>> No.90462307

>>90461148
Mousey!? I always suspected that you shitpost with us on four channel dot org slash vee tee!

>> No.90462311
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gonna miss her. I hope that she doesn't go back to only bathing once a week now that she won't need to leave the house anymore

>> No.90462347

>>90462212
She always rises to the top in every environment she's in. I wonder how powerful she would become in Holo

>> No.90462349

>>90456463
A hot shower relaxes the muscles. Before you work out, you need to heat your body. Most people do stretches or some form of cardio, like jumping jacks. A hot shower is also an alternative.

>> No.90462366

>>90462105
This.
Corpos who think they'll do better if they go indie are much, MUCH more likely to end up like Mangi or that NijiEN sex pest who talks like a black guy where they are struggling not to be a 2 view, then be like Mint and Doki.
But it also boils down to how loyal a fanbase you've built up is since in a case like Doki, they were so fanatically loyal, they were willing to declare total war on her corpo after it fucked her over.

>> No.90462394

>>90461830
Mint flirted with that idea a few months ago (not going back to Niji obviously, but sad she was basically alone)
But nowadays she seems fine and got rid of the brainworms.

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Can I get one with Sakamata? She won't join my gemu

>> No.90462440

Damn I wish I knew Japanese so I could've watched her more often.
I still really liked hearing her stinky voice.

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>> No.90462493

>people claim Cover is an idol company
>they slowly cut out the vtubers and replace them with idols
Be careful of what you wish for!

>> No.90462499

>>90461357
She has options. Ame went this route, Aqua did not. If the terms aren't good for you take the other option. This isn't rocket science and she should have had an advisor. You know, not one affiliated with Hololive or Cover Corp whose opinion would not be neutral.

>> No.90462510

being a publicly traded company will eventually destroy hololive. Its not that hard to just take a profit cut and change your arrangement with your talent to be more of an artist collective but the need for infinite growth will force them into an antagonistic relationship with their constantly churning staff.

>> No.90462519

>>90461891
Just like global then

>> No.90462550

I wonder if Chloe could become the next Rushia. Is she even stable enough to run her own enterprise without tardwrangling?

>> No.90462587

>>90462495
Man, if you think everyone in Chloe's family minus her are getting married, her PL is going to be one hell of a rude awakening

>> No.90462593

>>90462550
she is an obvious menhera don't kid yourself

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>> No.90462620

>>90462366
To be fair, Doki's was a very specific case where she nearly An Hero'ed and then THAT stream happened.
I think if Doki had left like she wanted to, it definitely wouldn't be as big as it was, even if she did have a big fanbase. But there's no way to know for sure.
But Nijisanji decided to drop a gasoline balloon on the fire and made it even bigger. To the point where even YouTube acknowledged her return.

>> No.90462624

>>90461895
6 bros we're so back!

>> No.90462645

>>90445636
what was the conclusion to her ghost arc? It felt like it wasn't solved and she only stopped talking about it because it was creeping out the other members and making it so that nobody wanted to hang out with her.

>> No.90462667

>>90462150
She was sick most of the year. And her voice take a toll. It was a decision between using her voice for Holo or for her RM's work.

>> No.90462668

>holobronies go on and on about niji being a black company
>now Cover turns out to be the blackest of black companies ever
You reap what you sow, holopigs.

>> No.90462671

it's so easy to springboard from hololive into a successful indie streaming career that its kind of a no brainer at this point.

>> No.90462682

>>90462493
aqua, retard

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>> No.90462720

>>90456969
They stated the fucking obvious. Its graduation with the the door being open as much as its allowed, which is very little. Its on Ame and Chloe to see if they want to what the difference is.

>> No.90462751

>>90462550
>the next Rushia
Rushia was insane even before she got fired.
You should have heard some of the stories about her membership streams back in the day.
Keep in mind, these were also done WHILE she was married too.

>> No.90462779

>>90462671
Only if you know exactly what you're doing. It's like taking off the training wheels - if you are not ready, you'll just end up in a ditch. And most of these girls are borderline retarded.

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This might sound bad but Sakamata has had zero impact on me, in my head she's still "new" because the only things I know are that her model is sex and she is a nutter who thinks ghosts are haunting her closet. In holox terms of relevance it's always Koyori>Lapussy>Lui>Sexmata>Sora's friend. Like I'm seriously drawing a blank on the bottom 3, feels like in 3 years they did literally nothing.

>> No.90462820

>>90462150
There are a lot of successful members that don't interact with many other members, but that's because they've got a parasocial relationship with their chat.

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>> No.90462858

>>90462802
the ghost is euphemism for stalker

>> No.90462862

>>90462751
So is Chloe. The only difference is that Chloe did not expose any IRL boyfriends - if that happened, her becoming the second Rushia would've been certain. But as things stand, it's only a possibility.

>> No.90462879

>>90462802
Koyori is carrying the entire gen hard.

>> No.90462917

>>90462668
Most people already knew this. At the end of the day the corpo is only out for the corpo. That's how business works, especially in Japan. What you see is PR, carefully curated to make everybody smell like a rose when the talents behave and do what the corpo wants, and villifying those that don't while still making the corpo seem like innocent waifs who did nothing wrong ever. What sucks is people ignore it for their own tribalism, because they make it part of their identity and admitting the corpo is bad is having to admit they fucked up by loving the corpo so much. Can't have that, so denial.

>> No.90462925

>>90445636
>january 26
she can't survive in Trump's world where she not allowed to marry Shion...

>> No.90462942

Can't the orca please have a big send off like Aqua did? I know she's not necessarily a pillar but its so weird how she might just go without a final hurrah

>> No.90462959

>>90462668
>>90462917
uh oh nijiseething

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>>90462862
Chloe doesnt swing that way in the first place

>> No.90462987

>>90462671
She's no Aqua, Coco, or even Rushia. I would be surprised if she developed enough oshis to sustain her indie career.

>> No.90462994

>>90462959
Exhibit A.

>> No.90463047

>>90462994
get better material

>> No.90463049

>>90457488
She never was, she's just another corporate puppet

>> No.90463054

>>90462984
Sure she doesn't.

>> No.90463058

>>90462243
she has the blue dorito so she's my oshi

>> No.90463108

>>90462987
neither was ame, by the time she quit, and she's doing better than she ever was

>> No.90463116

>>90462394
>>90462620
Niji always had that toxic culture where they beat it into your head that all your success is because of Niji alone and you're just a cog in their machine where the fans support Nijisanji and not the streamer. Selen got beaten down so much by that mindset it took Nijisanji ruining her year planned fan gift before she finally did an open act of defiance. And even then, she would have still been suffering from stockholm syndrome even after the an hero attempt.
And if the Dragoons followed normal Nijisanji fan culture, they would have all turned on Selen for defying the company. Instead she cultivated a fanbase that was loyal to her, not out of spite or any malicious acts. She was just loved supporting her fans and got rewarded in spades.
There's no Holo equivalent for this either. The only big managerial yabs I can think of was Mel getting harassed by her manager or Omega's mismanagement of HoloEN to the point Cover has erased his child project gen Council from official history and Kiara openly shit talks him.

>> No.90463125

>>90463049
yellow batsoup covered fingers wrote this post

>> No.90463194
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>>90463054
Any reason to suggest the contrary or are you just an anti

>> No.90463207

>>90445636
i like her fat tits

>> No.90463210

>>90463116
That sounds like a cult.

>> No.90463265

>>90462668
Lol.
>>90462959
When are they not? Superiority breeds jealousy.

>> No.90463331

Cover now has a contractual obligation to give us a girl with the same boob size

>> No.90463392

>>90463210
It honestly is, their streamers are not even allowed to keep their youtube buttons, they all go to Nijisanji's main office and get displayed there. And no, they aren't allowed to ask for an extra one either. And one girl who joked about taking her button and just leaving money so they Nijisanji could buy a replacement when she was at the office was outright told she'd be fired on the spot if she attempted it.

>> No.90463399

>>90463331
thats what flowglow was for
they usually try to have graduation announcements happen right after or during events/debuts/etc.

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TWO

H O U R S

>> No.90463405

is this the one that does dicksucking asmr on her roommate?

>> No.90463488

>>90462243
I watched enough of her to not care that she's graduated.

>> No.90463494

>>90450121
This is what you get when you deal with shareholders. Fucking neo-robber barons.

>> No.90463548

>>90458339
How many times do we have to do this fucking dance?

Cover has institutionalized itself with the IPO to provide bigger opportunities to franchise the talents with a huge spotlight on them. Said opportunities apparently come with a lot of work that does lead to extraordinary circumstances, such as you can see with Suisei, Miko and Lui being literally plastered all over Japan with the former two filling up entire concert halls and even being invited to play where the Beatles performed.

OBVIOUSLY this is not the same Cover that a lot of the girls signed up for and they might or might not, and this goes without saying that we have no way to verify this, have no means of backing away from, especially at contract renewal. Chloe is not exactly a runt in HoloX and it was obvious to see Cover was pushing the gen as much as they could and it might have impacted her health. Who knows? Its also been three years of her being a vtuber and she might want to try different things? Who knows.

I'm upset she's graduating. I like that goofy idiot a lot. I even have her 1/7 scale figure ordered that now I have no idea if I'm going to get but she delivered the news, provided her reason that she wants to be celebrated as who she was, and then sang beautifully. If she has a terrible relationship with Cover, she sure is insanely good at hiding it.

I love sakamata Chloe and I'm going to watch her til the end.

>> No.90463554

>>90463494
>niji projection

>> No.90463555

>>90463405
i wish

>> No.90463559

>>90450121
People still apply to nijisanji

>> No.90463625

>>90462150
>didn’t join HoloGTA due to work
Obvious bullshit. They do not have enough work for it to affect streaming.

>> No.90463677

>>90463625
and what made you an expert in cover background work processes?

>> No.90463721

>>90463625
Unless the members have wildly different contracts, it's hard to believe that they are overworked when gura exists.

>> No.90463786

>>90463677
Kronii showed that they only have two hours of work per day

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why did she do it, does anyone here follow her and speak weaboonese

>> No.90463823

>>90463786
that's her off day you retard

>> No.90463842

>only 1000 posts despite being announced 7 hours ago
oof, holo is reclining

>> No.90463889

>>90463842
this is my favorite kind of bait

>> No.90463898

Trouble in paradise

>> No.90463921

Cover is falling apart. Meanwhile, niji is thriving.

>> No.90463956

>>90463921
Roru run so even

>> No.90463961

>>90463786
>trusting Kronii

>> No.90463963

>>90463823
That was her regular daily schedule

>> No.90463966

>>90463842
Retard

>> No.90463996

>>90463554
Being private doesn't make you automatically good. just being public makes you eventually, automatically bad.

>> No.90464004

>>90463963
no it was not

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>>90445636
Idk why you guys are making a huge deal of her leaving, she already started a full idol group including her sister and matsuri over a year ago
https://www.youtube.com/@Pastel_Honey

>> No.90464009

>>90463047
For what? You literally did exactly what I said. Truth is truth, anon. And I want to stress that at this juncture I don't see anything in particular here with this graduation that signals anything malicious on Covers part. I'm just saying in general the corpo will look out for itself above all others. That's generally true. Tribalistic retards like you will also ignore it.

>> No.90464060

>>90464009
the only truth I see here is you jumping on an obvious "replace what people say about niji with holo" shitpost and calling everyone who disagrees blinded by tribalism

>> No.90464083

>>90462802
I like Lui for being somewhat atypical for an idol/vtuber (older OL oneesan with raspy voice) and she has one of my favorite songs (Holohawk) but I can see your point. The only things I myself have managed to soak up about Chloe is that she's stinky (I think), and for Iroha that she says gozaru (I think.)

>> No.90464116

>>90445727
>Only irrelevant people leave Hololive
>Good riddance
Unironically never understood how people can suck corpo cock this hard. Then again, I've had people unironically make religious and political claims about this company.

>> No.90464149

Share your favorite Chloe moments.

>> No.90464166

>>90462550
>>90462593
QRD?

>> No.90464169

>>90464004
Yes it was

>> No.90464200

>>90464149
the ramen moment for how much of a fucking retard she is

the simulated fellatio stream

the pussy shaving stream

>> No.90464218

>>90464010
Which SEA facebook group is forcing this thing? She is not in this group.

>> No.90464230

Niji chads stay winning.

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Never felt more safer and at peace with my choice of oshi

>> No.90464265

>>90460104
That is not even remotely like Chloe in any sense of the word.

>> No.90464344

>>90461879
they don't choose affiliation, affiliation is just replacing graduation. it seems less scummy to call leaving talents affiliates when you plan to keep selling merch of them well after they leave.

>> No.90464352

Toasting

>> No.90464361

honestly, this is a preferable way for graduation than the big boo-fucking-hoo farewell party that eventually leads to the lol-jk indie redebut

graduations should be for those that plan to call it quits for realsies

>> No.90464386

>>90464166
Rushia got fired and then tried to go indie, but she was so fucked in the head that literally everything went wrong. She even got thrown out of Vshojo after a few months.
She still gets views on her own channel, but considering that she was the queen of Vtubers making as much money as the rest of Hololive put together, it's a huge fall from grace.

>> No.90464454

>>90464361
uh that part is still happening later

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>>90462411
>She won't join my gemu
i wonder why

>> No.90464475

>>90464218
A /jp/fag thinks that he knows it all, despite being the most clueless person on this board, classic story. Stop coping.

>> No.90464501

>>90464344
retards like you read two words from a headline and your brain fills in the rest of the blanks with delusions

>> No.90464503

>>90446643
Fubuki
Koyori
Suisei
Miko
Korone (?)
Mori (lol)
Pekora so long as she keeps pullign the numbers.

These are women of principles.

+Laplace has said she wouldn't ever leave on her alt.

>Captcha : w0wk

>> No.90464541

>>90462645
It got buried since it just highlighted a lot of her bad traits, didn't even matter if the ghost was real as Lui said something ominous was there.

>> No.90464540

>>90464386
>She even got thrown out of Vshojo after a few months.
Why do faggots try to glaze vshojo with this obvious lie? She was there for a year and a half and she was the one that chose to quit because she thought she was going to start a serious career as an artist with a record label deal.

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>> No.90464594

>>90464386
I meant the Sakamata stuff but thanks

>> No.90464608

I have a theory that most people that become vtubers can't hold steady jobs. Have any of the graduated members even done a 9-5 job before?

>> No.90464640

>>90464572
I can't believe Lili from Tekken is a fan of Chloe
She really is a Lesbian magnet

>> No.90464663

>>90464594
Sakamata is just kinda insane, you can find some of the clips in this thread. She's known for taking the kayfabe a step too far and making other holos uncomfortable.

>> No.90464696

>>90464475
lmao it really is you trying to force this shit again after getting BTFO
What's even more hilarious is you now attacking me being from /jp/ when you previously claimed that this bullshit is from /hlg/.

>> No.90464706

>>90464608
IDK about graduated members, but those who worked normal office jobs before (Marine, Lui, Lamy, etc.) praised Hololive / Cover pretty often

>> No.90464745

>>90463786
And Subaru said she only gets to sleep 6 hours a night due to how much she has to do.
3 years ago, before the level of work they have now.

>> No.90464748

So this confirms Ame won't be doing shit "behind the scenes" huh?

>> No.90464775

>>90462587
Fuck it. Gimme the rrat.

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>> No.90464814

>>90464696
I was the one giving you link as proof, and I don’t know who that other anon is, just saying (assume he isn’t you trying to dramafagging this up)

>> No.90464829

>>90464745
She voluntarily takes on that work though. It's also why she's one of the most successful members.

>> No.90464841

>>90464788
Sometimes I forget Matsuri exists

>> No.90464857

So what the fuck will happen to Umisea? Shit's crippled as fuck.

>> No.90464886

>>90464706
hags know what the real world is like

>> No.90464923

>>90464788
Matuli

>> No.90464931

>>90464814
Who's me? You're both making the same retarded claim that's completely false.

>> No.90464952

>the young, lazy, and/or menhera are getting filtered
Hololive will be perfect by this time next year.

>> No.90464975

>>90462802
I thought she was an amazing singer myself. And she's had great moments of being a perverted weirdo. If anything, I think she's HoloX's best singer.

>> No.90464981

>>90464857
you're about two months late with this question, catalogchama

>> No.90464984

>>90464952
>Already turning on their own

>> No.90465046

>>90464706
Korone worked multiple convenience store jobs simultaneously, so that probably explains her endurance energy.

>> No.90465053

>>90464200
You will link all of these now please.

>> No.90465100

>>90464984
Girls like Ayame and Kronii should have been booted years ago.

>> No.90465118

>>90462879
Koyori should be in gamers gen.

>> No.90465141

>>90465100
Gura too

>> No.90465157

>>90463822
She's already streaming elsewhere.

>> No.90465167

>>90465141
gura is a patron saint

>> No.90465172

>>90464981
Ironic.

>> No.90465181

>>90463331
Chihaya. Or if you want similar color theme, Rio a

>> No.90465195

>>90465167
lmfao good one chumfuck

>> No.90465240

Slowpoke here.
Has she given a reason?

>> No.90465272

>>90465240
Fucking up her voice and not agreeing with the direction they were going
So basically too much work

>> No.90465281

>>90463548
Anon, if you love Chloe, this isn’t the thread you want to be in.

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KEKICHOOKI

>> No.90465310

>>90452594
Her voice cameo as the Geats Chemy was Cover bribing her in exchange for her not doing anything against them

>> No.90465326

Another loss for nijixisters

>> No.90465341

>>90465272
Something definitely changed internally. We're getting too many graduations for there not to have been a big shift

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>>90463548
Shut the fuck up holotard

>> No.90465426

>>90465341
2-3 a year is not "too many", though

>> No.90465442
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Fuckers, you don't get it.
>Rushia graduates, Rus-Ukraine war
>Lirica arrives with the shape of an L on her forehead, All Stars singer dies
>The two homos graduate, Putin graduates his two Wagner stooges
Every Hololive event is linked to some big IRL event, good or bad.
And what would the final yab be? The end of Holo.
As in, the entire fucking Holocene, the end of human domination over the earth, the end of mankind. The day Hololive ends, is the day the nukes fly and fry everyone, nuclear holocaust.

>> No.90465462

>>90465341
Aqua was the only valuable one lost.

>> No.90465464

>>90465426
Ame
Aqua
Chloe
Mel
A-chan

Hol up that's 5?? That's twice as many as you mentioned

>> No.90465487

>>90464981
>>90464857
It's just marine now.

>> No.90465489

>>90465442
WW3 being the final yab to COVER would be funny

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cover is shit and I'll complain on twitter
also never buying anything else
fuck it

>> No.90465511

>>90465464
>including A-chan

>> No.90465513

>>90465426
In such a small time frame it is.

>> No.90465553

>>90445636
I don't keep up with HoloX but I truly thought Laplus would be the first one to graduate..
Maybe their unity will grow stronger now with 4 members like NePoLaBo?

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>>90465287
Nijisanji is still trash, I just find the irony funny

>> No.90465581

>>90465464
>Mel
Fired, not a graduation. She would kill to take whatever she leaked back
>A-chan
Not a graduation. Left to take care of her family member

>> No.90465607

>>90464696
I'm attacking you for being from /jp/ because you are clearly a vapid idiot, who runs around pretending to be in the know because you're from /jp/ and everyone else is from SEA facebook, when in fact you don't even read threads, let alone watch streams.

>> No.90465637

>>90465464
Mel got fired.

>> No.90465645

>>90464060
If the shoe fits, anon...

>> No.90465652

>>90465341
No shit? Cover is spamming these themed management scripted voice packs, the talents only get one 3D slot a year and Cover tells them to fuck off when they want to lay for it themselves.
The only "bonus" these days is that some of them get to appear on TV to get made fun of by normalfags.

>> No.90465672

Mio's 2024 tarot reading for Sakamata Chloe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQPP0HlNlic

>I can sense that she will feel satisfied and completed this year
>I can also sense her will to move towards a grander goal

>> No.90465673

>>90465513
It's over a year (Ame’s was decided before April). 3 people leaving (technically 2 since Chloe isn’t leaving yet) over 1 year is hardly too many

>> No.90465700

>>90465673
Bro you're coping.

>> No.90465709

>>90465464
Why do you retards keep treating A-chan like she's a talent?

>> No.90465722

>>90465672
This witch…

>> No.90465726

>>90465672
The bruja strikes again...

>> No.90465737

>>90465672
>her goal is trying to get into the even more horrendous IRL idol scene

>> No.90465767

The question now is if Chloe will return to been a sexo witch vtuber or retire for good

>> No.90465773

>>90465737
Why are you still forcing this?

>> No.90465796

>>90445636
Mumei next?

>> No.90465798

>>90465281
Yeah. I've been picking up on that. I don't know why I'm purposefully sticking my hand in the bee hive but I'm kind of an anxious mess about it. I'll be working after I'm done in the office to archiving her member's.

This is the third time I'm doing this, man. This fucking sucks.

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>>90465672
YOU FOOLS
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO FERTILIZE HER EGGS IN ORDER TO STOP HER BLACK MAGIC
NOW SHE'S BECOME TOO POWERFUL

>> No.90465818

>>90465700
I will start freaking out when they lose, say, 15% of their members over a year or majority of members start being unhappy. 3 isn’t even 10%

>> No.90465822

>>90461974
>Miko
I think you mean Noel

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>anyways, please check out my talk show!
why is she like this?

>> No.90465846

>>90465464
>A-chan
Staff member who happened to have a presence as a pseudo member, left for family reasons
>Mel
Terminated for leaking information under NDA, Cover's decision, not a graduation
>Ame and Chloe
Technically not graduated, could in theory come back if their plans don't work out
>Aqua
Literally the only actual graduation

>> No.90465886

>>90465846
Retard

>> No.90465897

>>90465834
Based Kiara never losing an opportunity to hustle. I respect that.

>> No.90465899

>>90465846
>Technically not graduated
Come on, anon...

>> No.90465955

>>90465796
Fauna

>> No.90465962

>>90464608
Only Kson, she was an office lady at SEGA.

>> No.90465965

>>90465511
>>90465581
>>90465709
A-chan is already worthless and forgotten KEK

>> No.90465978

The golden age of Hololive is over and you are retarded and in denial if you think it isn't

>> No.90466025

>>90445636
kekekekekek

>> No.90466027

>>90465965
She was always worthless.

>> No.90466051

>>90465834
>Him
AIEEE, Chloe was a dude all this time?

>> No.90466063

>>90465700
Compare the rate to nijikuro

>> No.90466062

>>90466027
Based
Fuck Nodoka and A-chan for being homo cocksleeves

>> No.90466068

>>90465812
She didn't cause it, she only predicted it.

>> No.90466122

>>90466062
>/vt/ now seethes at staff members having relationships
unikeks are a fucking joke

>> No.90466134

>>90461974
You can't tell me Kanata isn't a lesbian

>> No.90466161

>>90464886
I hope next gen is just all hags with real world job experience. Tired of whiny early twenties streamers who can’t handle getting paid well for minimal work. From now on I only want to give money to streamers who actually know the value of it.

>> No.90466167

Posting in a sticky!

>> No.90466214

Idc

>> No.90466274

>>90466161
>retardchama still doesn't get it that the reason they leaving its because it's no longer about just streaming games

>> No.90466300

>>90466122
Don't lump all of /vt/ with unironic retards.

>> No.90466310

>>90465846
holofags are in full cope mode i see

>> No.90466409

>>90466161
Hololive members are not streamers as streaming is not their primary activity.

>> No.90466437

Test

>> No.90466460

>>90466437
Test

>> No.90466490

>>90450101
retard

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>>90466437

>> No.90466561
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Wow cool when are the other dozen dead weights leaving? Seriously call me when Pekora or Marine retire.

>> No.90466633

>>90466561
>RWBY post
>dumb take
shocker

>> No.90466757

>>90453143
it's not even $25k, it's $17.5k because Youtube also gets a cut.

>> No.90466823

>>90466561
>nu-RWBY
>retarded
many such cases

>> No.90466891

It really does seem like Gura is the only one allowed to be on indefinite hiatus. Ayame and Shion are back, and yes I know their streams are infrequent but they ARE back, so it might be the option isn't even on the table.

What I don't get is why doesn't everybody just pull a Noel and run their side gig when they're not streaming?

>> No.90466895

>>90453543
>You don't just disappear, never to be seen by anyone ever again.
fuck I totally missed the point of school

>> No.90466914

Mumei has her chance to snag the model.

>> No.90466979

LaPuta Darknezzz when?

>> No.90467232

>>90465100
Ayame is cute so she'll NEVER be booted!
...Unless she breaks NDA that is.

>> No.90467253

AND ANOTHER ONE'S GONE, AND ANOTHER ONE'S GONE...

>> No.90467303

>>90466891
Guras 3 million wish was to not have to work for a whole year

>> No.90467353

>>90460873
based and true, Raora is 1 view twitch shitters quality, who's dick did she suck to get this gig? not yagoo, we know he's a homo lover

>> No.90467363

>>90467303
BASED
>BASED
BASED
>BASED

>> No.90467386

>>90445636
I can't say I ever watched her. But I listened to her karaokes a few times, they were cute, and I like her stuff with Umisea. I thought it was fun she swapped outfits with Gura for NYE last year.
I hope whatever she's going to go do goes well for her.

>> No.90467431

>>90467353
>t. seething rejected 2view

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>>90461879
Because Cover refuses to graduate people now so the fans wouldn't shit on them as hard as before. Everytime someone graduates, Cover's reputation gets ruined little by little.

>> No.90467537

>>90467431
nah, just someone who doesn't like a retarded ESL grandma voice mixed in with my cute hirls6

>> No.90467554

>>90467472
Didn't Aqua's graduation literally hurt the stocks for a bit?

>> No.90467558

>>90445636
I just opened up my /VT/ and saw this. Surprisingly, people who joined Hololive early aren't leaving

>> No.90467667

>>90466063
>bu-but niji is doing worse

>> No.90467678

>>90467554
Yeah.

>> No.90467815

>>90467472
I ask again. What's wrong with graduation that has a possible chance to be overturned if the talent wants to return? The possibility, even at its slimmest, exists now than it did before.

>> No.90467848

>>90450912

Shion, Ayame, La+, and Gura all could go the Affiliate route and there would be no less streams than currently. They're all leeches to the company and would be nothings if they went Indie with their current "work" schedules.

Frankly, Cover should start forcing their lazy ass talents to either quit or go affiliate so they can focus up and support their actual workers better.

>> No.90467862

I feel sorry for the zookeepers/handlers.
Their oshi streamed pretty frequently so it's not like this was an easy guess like with some other perpetual no-shower's.
What a shitty year regardless.

>> No.90467868

>>90467667
Until a Hololive talent faces the camera and says, "I tried to kill myself because of the abuse of Cover" then yeah, Niji is 10000x worse.

Why ever pretend for even a second that Niji does ANYTHING better?

>> No.90468057

The worst part is that this really is out of nowhere, I think out of everyone in HoloX Chloe was probably one of the last members people thought was gonna leave. Everyone typically thought of Lap instead. And its not like Chloe followed the similar model of others that ended up leaving like suddenly streaming alot with other members or anything, cause she generally did stream a decent amount in the first place. Just doesn't seem like a good sign when this is what the 4th member this year to leave on terms of "disagreement with the direction of the company", and several other members also talking about the various internal changes. Wouldn't surprise me if we see more next year, especially from the EN branch now that Ame opened the gates for them to still be "affiliates", even if it is just a fictitious thing that doesn't end up meaning anything except them still being part of some merch lines

>> No.90468102

>Holofags trying to cope about how this isn't a red flag, when the house is literally burning down around them
lmao, the amount of coping especially on Reddit is just laughable

>> No.90468104

>>90450970
Someone should tell her she still has to stream from time to time. She's done 29 streams this year, 4 to shill merch and 10 more were collabs. So in total, she did 15 actual streams this year.

They just need to straight up fire her ass and keep selling physical merch of her because they own the IP.

>>90451014
Gura has legitimately not streamed much if at all for the past 2 1/2 years now, yet her merch still sells out. You SEVERELY underestimate how much her base is willing to be exploited.

>> No.90468107

>>90465767
"Return". She's already active elsewhere anon.

>> No.90468114

>>90467815
That doesn't require the affiliate thing, Coco hard graduated and they said she could come back some day. Really feels like they just don't want to say the g-word.

>> No.90468129

>>90453265
Uhhh if they're just following the herd why did any of them graduate in the first place when the herd wasn't graduating?

>> No.90468169

>>90468104
Theres a difference between a hibernating talent and a graduated one. Affiliates are just graduations.

>> No.90468201

>>90451072

The company is beholden to stockholders now and as they have said, as the company grew, more and more rules got put in place that make trying new things extremely rare and restricted. Cover seems to think they no longer have to adapt and improvise, just keep your head down, do what's always worked for us, and we will all rake in the money.

For a lot of content creators, they want to try new things, not just stream games all day, then do a song here or there a few times a year. That's not creative to them.

>> No.90468206

>>90468107
No she isn't, her previous persona has been quite ever since she graduated that

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The orca is dead. The shark somehow lives on.

>> No.90468273

>>90468224
Umisea died as it lived, forced cringe corpo grouping that ends up disbanding because the members are too tired of said corpo bs

>> No.90468313

>>90468057
Anon. It has come out of nowhere for every talent but Coco. Fuck's sake I still remember Ame's not even looking like a fucking graduation stream on the thumbnail preview and we were all filled with good vibes for after the anniversary.

Frankly, I thought, and I am knocking on wood here, that Ayame would be next. Or Shion. La+ has turned things around if people haven't been paying attention and seems HAPPY to be in her position. I thought all of HoloX was happy, though. I guess I'm bad at reading.

>> No.90468331

>>90468224
Next stream will have some little shark avatars for her kids. Her husband will be the shark from finding nemo.

>> No.90468351

She was fired for an internal yab.

>> No.90468382

>>90445636
I don't want to believe it...

>> No.90468420

>>90468114
Coco clearly found success, though. The "problem" is that outside of Mel? Ame, Coco, Aqua, and hell, even Rushia have found success.

I'm only arguing Mel because she is now niche but she clearly is there, too. Sadly the door is closed for her as tight as Rushia which is so fucking unfair.

>> No.90468444

posting in epic thread :(

>> No.90468472

>>90468420
Actually I take it back. Rushia gets money. That shit is not success. I don't know what the fuck you call it.

>> No.90468486

>>90468331
His name is Bruce!

>> No.90468540

>>90468313
Everyone gave up on thinking that Ayame and Shion were going to leave like 2 years ago, cause they at least still attend events and post on social media. Ame and Aqua's graduation were not "out of nowhere, like wtf is this argument. People were speculating that Ame was gonna graduate that entire year after the significant drop in streams and everything, but then suddenly coming back. Same thing with Aqua, suddenly becoming close to Pekora and shit too couldn't have made it more obvious

>> No.90468552

>>90465672
The HoloSchizo strikes again

>> No.90468577

>>90445636
WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.90468624

>>90465672
>She feels happy
Oh no that means she's achieved everything she wants in Hololive and will leave!
>She feels sad
Oh no that means she's going to leave Hololive to find happiness somewhere else!

Anyone who takes fortune telling seriously is beyond saving.

>> No.90468687

>>90468540
Speculation is not evidence. It was believed just as well that Ame had the same deal as Gura and Ayame. Ame also came trailing off a Myth anniversary with the theme that they'll be together forever.

I don't get how Aqua initiating with Pekora means she was graduating. She has gotten out of her safe space several times before and Pekora initiated it. It was later we had the context for it or are we gonna pretend that if Pekora collabs with anybody out of nowhere that means potential graduation?

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>>90468624
Chloe unironically believes in ghosts so...

>> No.90468752

>>90468486
Yeah, him. He'll be a giant png in the back.

>> No.90468797

>company becomes popular
>implodes on itself
It's like I'm watching Upd8 Project all over again LMAO.

>> No.90468799

>>90468687
Your not presenting any evidence either, so by your own argument you have nothing to stand on either. If you think that there was any other reason for Pekora and Aqua to get together so suddenly was anything other than Pekora learning about her graduating and wanting to make just a few memories with her, then you're just fucking delusional

>> No.90468861
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>>90445636
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.90468987

>>90468420
Mel is hard to judge because she is all over the place in a way like none of the others deal with. All the rest are extremely consistent but with Mel she can be as low as 600-1000 or around 2000 or even around 3000 and then she does a flesh stream of a certain sort and she jumps up to 6000-10000.
I really don't get it, the only thing that makes sense to me which sounds a bit harsh but that the general audience does not find her appealing or entertaining and only tune into her based on the type of content and she has to do very specific content to get numbers.
Whereas with everyone else, general audience will tune in no matter the content.

>> No.90468991

>Company goes public
>It all starts going to shit
>Cover insider who leaked information a few months ago is vindicated about how Miko and Fubuki are the ones who have most of the power in the company

>> No.90469022

Cover is black compani
Nijisanji is winner

>> No.90469046

>>90468799
I think you have a toxic view of Pekora, dude.

>> No.90469114

>>90468987
Kinda sucks cause Mel's cooking videos is what got me watching the JP talents. But I also seem to like the "idiots" the most. Why Chloe is also hitting hard, I guess.

>> No.90469122

>>90468861
Lick the mic, Millie.

>> No.90469190

>>90469046
She's the biggest loner in the company who had past drama with Aqua before Hololive and is known as never wanting to go out to dinner or anything with any other member, even tho that's a core part of Jap work culture. Just look at how she reacted when Aqua was graduating and how she was really the only one to be so emotional, because she regretted letting past issues between them get in the way now after it was already too late to try repairing their relationship

>> No.90469195

>>90458339
>>GG, Biboo, Kobo and even Bae are all fighting to be the "new Gura"
oh, so you've never watched a single stream in your life.

>> No.90469266

>>90469022
ESL kun not now

>> No.90469286

>>90469195
I honestly laughed at that anon like OH YES TEEN WOLF THAT'S WHAT I ASSOCIATE WITH GURA

>> No.90469300

>>90468987
RS2 streams are ALWAYS kino.

>> No.90469307

Why can't hololive be both catering to idols and to streamers? How hard could it be?

>> No.90469335

Let me guess, she's gonna go back to being an indie vtuber within a month of graduating? And Holokeks are still going to cope about how there wasn't any big disagreement between the talents and management/staff/etc, even though every talent that's left shortly went on to continue vtubing in some way almost immediately after lmao

>> No.90469359

>>90469335
Did Chloe have a pl as an indie vtuber?

>> No.90469372

>>90464788
cucksuri..

>> No.90469390

>>90469300
Those have been surprisingly strong for her for some reason, at least so far.

>> No.90469449

>>90469190
>never wanting to go out to dinner or anything with any other member
fucking based
more of them need to start pushing back against their retarded work culture for things to actually change

>> No.90469468

>>90469390
Because the SaGa franchise is at the very least as loved as FF or DQ over there, the recent games+gacha have just been very underwhelming.

>> No.90469477

>>90469359
Yes, but its been inactive since she stopped doing it. Look through the vt subreddit if you want to know who she used to be

>> No.90469510

>>90469359
Yes long before holoen even existed

>> No.90469532

>>90469477
So there is hope she doesn't disappear forever. Cool.

>>90469335
Thank you I was ignorant about her pl.

>> No.90469584

>>90445636
Great, Holoslop ruining my day again

>> No.90469755

Who needs to graduate in nijikuro to get a sticky ?

>> No.90469803

>>90445636
>Although her regular streaming and related activities will end, she will continue her affiliation as a talent of hololive production.
What does this even mean? They said that about Ame too.

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>>90445636
Why aren't they calling it a graduation, yet why isn't she getting the Ame treatment?

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>>90445636
>aloe died for this

>> No.90469886

>>90469803
Its just new cope that the investors made up to lessen the impact of graduations for fans. Give them that tiny bit of hope and cope that the talent/s are still apart of the company and might return for an event or have some merch come out, but in reality its just for posterity purposes of keeping the character IP intact for financial purposes

>> No.90469891

>>90469803
For now it means Chloe merch will happen and stuff she has been working on will come out.

That's all we know. They don't retire the character but no more content beyond what was agreed upon and what is doable with said content.

SUPPOSEDLY she can come back for stuff like HoloFes.

>> No.90469936

>>90469810
because cover confirmed that affiliate and graduation are the same thing
https://note.cover-corp.com/n/ne3a8b7a553c0

>> No.90469950

>>90469877
Aloe gave up too easily

>> No.90470166

>>90469950
Still weird knowing after graduation, Rushia's alt got into some beef with her

>> No.90470245

>>90469359
She's active. She's even in an idol group with another holo member....

>> No.90470254

>>90465834
Kiara's asking to please let her interview Sakamata before she graduates. Shit Google translation strikes again

>> No.90470303

>>90470166
She got into beef with shion and aqua too lmao

>> No.90470354

>>90469190
NTA but you're a retarded newfag (and that anon was right that you have a toxic view of Pekora and it's the view of her that catalogtards keep spewing) who's just eating up random schizo rrats on the catalog like the schizo you are. There was never any "drama" between them before Hololive. They've both talked extensively about why they didn't interact or talked. It was all purely because of them misunderstanding each other after Aqua asked Pekora if she loved her and she answered "futsuu~". That's it. They're both just autistic.
You can say it was because of whatever the voices in your head convinced you of but just know you're nothing more than a schizo.
>is known as never wanting to go out to dinner or anything with any other member
And yet she does do that. Just not as often as everyone else.

>> No.90470375

>>90467868
You're the one talking about Niji. Not me.

>> No.90470384

>>90465100
Ayame said she intends to stay for at least 10 years

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>>90462150
>That’s probably the saddest part, she might have ended up seeing Hololive as just another unfulfilling job, instead of a job, and a warm, familiar place, like the other girls say.
mfw reading that

>> No.90470483

>>90470354
At some point people just willed into their heads that Pekora is a hermit instead of just being introverted and I don't get when that happened. Oh no, she doesn't want to eat out every day with her coworkers, that's super weird! Like what?

>> No.90470582

Damn I'll never get to play her in Holocure

>> No.90470628

Y'all still watching corpos in 2024? lmao
2019-2021 is not coming back. Just find an indie who is into the niche shit you like and you'll be good.

>> No.90470679

>>90470303
QRD ?

>> No.90470835

>>90470628
Fuck Off Ligger

>> No.90470852

>>90470628
I, too, like pretending Hololive talents suck. Now excuse me while CC has another kino member's stream.

>> No.90470851

>>90445636
AME WON!

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>>90470679

>> No.90470886

>>90470628
I'm in it for the concerts and generic J-pop, anon
Unironically

>> No.90470896

>>90469307
Streaming in itself doesn't bring in enough, isn't high-profile or visible enough, and the reach isn't enough, unless you're maybe Peko/Miko level. Now that Cover is much bigger and the stakes are higher, it's simply a waste of administrative resources and a spot in Hololive if that's all you're gonna do. I'm sure they'd love nothing more than get rid of streaming entirely, but fortunately for us, they haven't found a recipe to manufacture and maintain a fanbase without it yet.

>> No.90470933

Its so chlover

>> No.90470939

the affiliate thing was a dumb move by cover now nothing stops someone from joining hololive, stay for 2 years and just fuck off

>> No.90470947

>>90453758
If Miko left cover, youtube would be majorly fucked. Can you imagine the tantrum a million 35p army would cause if Miko left? Random 2 views videos would have schizo copypastas of some covercorp employees waterboarding Miko for refusing to speak japanese, while Pekora was taking selfies with faqin saru next to her.
With Chloe leaving I wont buy anymore cover merch except koyoalbum and likely will stop following everyone other than Koyori. If they are legit friends irl I hope Yoyorin will make sure Chloe doesnt turn into a swamp monster in february. Stressful schedules worsen health, but so does a hikineet life without exercise and real food

>> No.90470999

>>90470628
Any reccommendations? I'm too lazy to sit through hundreds of 2views. Any musclegirls (or any chuuba for that matter) that don't do the "le heccin' naughty lesbian/bisexual!!! i wanna kiss my genmates!!!" bit?

>> No.90471124

>>90470939
Well, there's always making a worse contract. "Must stay for four years or be liable etc etc"

>> No.90471206 [DELETED] 

TOTAL HOLONIGGERS DEATH

>> No.90471565

>>90464572
imagine the smell

>> No.90471847

o7 stinky orca

>> No.90471890

>>90470856
>must hurt you can't say anything publicaly
actualy she can and did it 2 year later, stupid fucking whore getting trapped in her own trap

>> No.90471974

>>90471847
Stinky, stupid, sexy, cute. You really couldn't have it any other way.

>> No.90472273

>>90467472
shitty woke crap strategy to just rename the thing so nobody notices
we simply say graduation because we are weebs
they just kts fr

>> No.90472854

Something doesn’t make sense, and I really hope some anons can help me clear my thoughts.

What’s going on with some of these talents stepping away from Hololive and citing a supposed change in the direction of the company? What direction is Cover actually going in? They haven’t done anything significantly different in the last four years. While concerts and events are getting bigger, that’s to be expected—it’s not like they started as a small company that didn’t already organize annual big concerts. Since 2021, Hololive has been producing massive concerts, and the only reason they didn’t have a big venue in 2021 was due to COVID. Currently, they host one annual FES, one big concert, and every talent gets one yearly anniversary concert. This has been the norm for JP talents for the last four years, and it doesn’t seem likely to change anytime soon.

The argument about idols being overworked doesn’t really hold up when you consider:

>Mumei leaves for a couple of months and comes back saying that Hololive allowed her to take a break.
>Shion and Ayame take several months of vacation every year.
>Gura streams only 12 times a year, or sometimes even less.

It’s clear that talents are allowed to take long breaks.

Additionally, the company’s direction hasn’t changed from its roots. They continue to focus on big events, and no major shift or merger with the homos has occurred. The China situation was a massive flop, and not a single talent has been forced to suck chink cocks on stream.

Not gonna lie, but when you look at what previous talents have done after leaving Hololive—claiming the company’s direction didn’t align with their goals—and then continuing to do exactly what they were doing in Hololive after going independent, it says a lot about the talents rather than the company.

At this point, I’m more inclined to believe this is a talent issue, not a company issue. That said, I’m seeking some input from this board to help me sort out my feelings on the matter.

Thanks, anons.

>> No.90472946

>>90472854
>it says a lot about the talents rather than the company
What the fuck are you implying about my oshi

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