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Back to Full Strength Edition

Welcome to VShojo+! A thread to discuss VShojo, and any vtubers frequently associated with them.

Today was slow but we got a couple of interesting streams out of it at the very least! Zen was a murderous shark for a bit in Maneater, while Haruka started playing arguably the worst David Cage experience, Heavy Rain. They were the only streams to fill out an otherwise empty day, but they were very much appreciated. Heavy Rain in particular as it poses us one of life's greatest questions. "Maybe she's hungry?"

Tomorrow's looking like a pretty normal day as Vei should finally be getting a keyboard after accidentally destroying hers live on stream on Friday. Silver should hopefully have a new schedule out, and it seems like Mel plans on debuting a new outfit. An event that is apparently so big that Mouse has it on her schedule as well. It would be weird for it to be her Live2D debut as it's not labeled as such, but taking up a spot on multiple girl's schedules is pretty unusual. That is, unless Mouse just intends to hang out with her best friend and we're all graced with another lovely Mouse + Mel chat after being denied one on Saturday.

The past is the past and the past don't last. Life goes on, and as it does we soldier forward as well. What's important is that we as a group work to keep the thread comfy, and the best way to handle that is to do as you've always done. Ignore the bait, shitflinging, tribalism, and anything else that would derail things. And most importantly, be excellent to each other.

VShojo is:
Nyan - https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners
Silver - https://www.twitch.tv/silvervale
Froot - https://www.twitch.tv/apricot
Mouse - https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Zen - https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya
Mel - https://www.twitch.tv/projektmelody
Hime - https://www.twitch.tv/hajime
Vei - https://www.twitch.tv/veibae

Previous thread: >>9021157

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>> No.9039574

I LOVE NYANNERS

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>> No.9039723

Not sure I would have bothered this late with no waifus, OP, but I get it. Even the overnighters have been mostly active.

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>> No.9039852

I love pink cat and want all the good things to happen to her.

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>>9039723
Yeah it could be a horrible mistake but I'd like to think a quieter thread now that it's all hopefully calmed down would be nice to see. Or maybe he'll appear overnight and it could be best to have it up as a precaution

>> No.9040252

>>9039727
Is this the chat-made outfit? It looks fucking horrible.

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Anyway schedule time. Currently live:

Mira - Hey what do you know. She streams so rarely that it seems like an event when she does. She's one of Silver's oldest pals and she's playing Fantasy Life which is a super comfy game to wind down from all the shit today with if you're interested. https://www.twitch.tv/mirapink

And since it's late as fuck, tomorrow's schedule. Assuming that things go as planned:

Vei - Used the broken keyboard as an opportunity to take a mini break from streaming, and has plans to return tomorrow.
Mel - Schedule says "NEW OUTFIT - OFFICIAL DEBUT!" which sounds like a new 3D outfit but I don't recall any new outfits being teased. It also feels like too little fanfare for a the Live2D reveal though. So we'll just have to find out!
Mouse - The only reason I'm even suspecting the new outfit might be the 2D model is Mouse's schedule has, "Projekt Melody Debut" listed on it. It could just be an excuse for the two of them to hang out, but it also makes it seem like a bigger event than a new outfit would normally be.
Silver? - No schedule as of yet, but Wednesdays are pretty normal for her. We'll find out but here's for hoping.
Zen? - Don't know. Probably. Zen's always a mystery but is streaming more likely than not.
Froot? - I don't know. I feel like she could show up given all that's going on. That's just a theory though.

Nyan's taking some time off. And Hime is out searching for buried treasure.

>> No.9040424

>>9040252
It's a fan design. I think her actual thing is going to be cyberpunk inspired but it's probably not that.

>> No.9041022

>>9040355
>Nyan's taking some time off.
Nyatasha Nyanners sits alone.


Watching a jerma stream probably.

>> No.9041162

https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1432938675504037888

Cute dorks.

>> No.9041229

>>9041022
I'd like to think she'll appear on someone else's stream in the meantime. Like this anon mentioned >>9038887 a cleansing collab of sorts could be nice to see. I dunno I'm probably just some loser who feels like doing something symbolically can help put a traumatic event behind you but that's just how I feel.

>> No.9041404

>>9041229
Yeah I think there'll be a couple somber collabs this week. And a couple random drop ins from folks you don't see often. It's gonna be a weird couple weeks.

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>>9040355
>I don't recall any new outfits being teased
Mel's been teasing her new yoga pants for a while now

>> No.9041646

>>9041509
Oh shit I forgot about those and she said she wanted to do a yoga stream too. I guess cause I was thinking of them as just pants and not a full outfit but maybe there could be a tanktop or something to go with it.

>> No.9042230

>>9041646
mt guess would be a sports bra, so she can show off her abs

>> No.9042255

>>9040355
froot is still playing apex btw, gotta binge that drug.

>> No.9042318

>>9041162
I would love to see a Vshojo dancing stream. We know Zen and Mel have great moves, and Nyanners studied dance for years. I think mouse used to dance a lot too but obviously her health probably precludes much dancing at this time.
Not sure if Froot, Vei, Silver or Hime like to dance, but I would be shocked if Silver doesn’t.
Invite the vshojo+ girls too. Momo and Bunny showed off their moves in that ridiculously sexy VRChat stream from a week or two ago. And invite whoever the fuck else too—connur, Lumi, Mira, EVERYBODY DANCE

>> No.9042608

>>9042318
Nyan wanted to do dance streams when she got full body tracking, but she never got it working correctly. I was really excited about it.

>> No.9042751

I miss Vei. I hope she streams today. I hope she plays Harvester. I hope she watches Luxury Dark. I hope she talks about her period and bowel movements and makes all the holobrinies and purityfags have violent seizures as a result. I hope she listens to Hot Dad and plays Boi and Apex, even though I hate those games. Anything that makes her happy. I hope she yells at chat and then someone gifts her 100 subs (not me) and then she says “oh my God-uh!” I hope she reads creepy messages that someone (not me, I swear) sent to her business gmail. and streams 12 hours of project Zomboid followed by 16 hours of FF14. And then I hope watches Vei Dancing Bay-cons and Chuggs videos and Kay’s Kitchen and then plays AI dungeon with Nyanners and becomes a zillionaire.

Sincerely,
Jeffy Bengals

>> No.9042916

>>9042751
I hope so too. I think. That's a lot to take in.

>> No.9043097

https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1432950502564810752

Okay, so, this is a thing.

>> No.9043215

>>9043097
Yeah, it's stupid slacktivism shit that won't do anything. Of course Twitch wants that shit off the site, but it's not that easy.

>> No.9043300

>>9043215
Yeah, but, how many of our girls forgot about it and are now going to take tomorrow off (or use it as an excuse)? The way Froot is speaking there makes it seem like she wants to stream tomorrow maybe?

>> No.9043539

>>9043300
I don’t think my little raisin, for one, gives a fuck about movements like that. She’ll stream unless she’s not feeling well

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I FUCKING LOVE NYANIKI NYANNERS AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER

>> No.9045290

>Mel and Mousey aren't partecipating in that retarded commie #ADayOffTwitch thing
That's why they are the most based out of the bunch

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>>9039517
I mean... This is pretty much how it works in a roundabout way, except it's consensual.

>> No.9045420

>>9045290
And yes there will be based.

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>>9039574
>>9044396
This but unironically

>> No.9046620

>>9041229
I don't think people will mind if she does a Haruka for a bit and only appears on other peoples streams, and she shouldn't be worried about losing people - Haruka had a great comeback stream.
I do hope that Vei will want to do more Wildermyth, because that was a pretty fun time but with things the way they are I'd understand if she wasn't in the mood to.

>> No.9047207

>>9046620
it's not just that she is worried about losing subscribers/followers, its that she can't enjoy things without thinking about streaming. If she plays a game she thinks about how it could have been content that she streams. If she wants to go on a road trip, she thinks about how whatever experiences she will have will be content for her streams. She needs to see a therapist, lmao.

>> No.9047423

>>9047207
A potentially weird solution, but maybe she should find a small office to hire. Even if its close by, but having a commute and a totally separate space really helps separate your work brain and home brain.

That or she can just do a 10 minute drive around her block before and after a stream, something small, ritualistic, but just to divide work and home.

>> No.9047531

>>9047207
It's the content creator/comedian curse. Once you see things through that lens, you can't stop seeing it, it's like putting on the glasses in 'they live'.

Some lady's weird hair cut at the gas station: that's 10 minutes. Talk about maybe getting a haircut: 30 minutes. Previous good/failed haircuts: 30 minutes. Ms paint the hair styles: 1-2 hours. Gas stations in general: 30 minutes. The Prius: 30 minutes. Show clips of someone making a dragster Prius: an hour. Etc.

It's a mine you're constantly digging and can only cash out 100$ worth of content a day no matter how much content you make.

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can I post Lumi here? I love her

>> No.9047872

>>9047855
only if you can do a cute lumi noise too.

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>>9047855
Say awoo, bitch, say it

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>>9047872
>>9048024
AWOO

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I WANT TO GIVE NYANNERS A BEAR HUG!

>> No.9048082

>>9047855
I mean, it does feel like we've adopted her and her friends, so why not.

>> No.9048752

>>9047855
>>9048082
Her collabs with Mel make me piss my pants laughing

>> No.9048884

>>9048752
her and mel are great together

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I love her so much its unreal.

>> No.9049164

>>9048024
https://twitter.com/Lumituber/status/1433003187707994118

>> No.9049806

https://www.twitch.tv/sivelle
Tiff is live, crying and trying to vent

>> No.9049915

>>9049806
oh boy

>> No.9050082

https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1432994228292968448

Meanwhile, have a cutepost from Froot.

>> No.9050165

>>9049806
Aw man. I just tuned in and like 30 seconds in this is fucking ROUGH.

>> No.9050171

>>9049806
>I told him "block these girls". I couldn't see him with these girls anymore, i couldn't see them play dnd with him anymore, i couldn't see them make music for him anymore

So it's true. These girls were ok with Arc's stuff as long as they could benefit from them for clout, but then decided to #MeToo him when his wife forced him to shut them out.
Total Epstein situation

>> No.9050237

>>9050171
Depends how many of them knew about each other. Maybe the ones he was actually serious with haven't said anything yet.

>> No.9050277

I'm starting to think that the window on Arc making his way out of this alive is closing.

>> No.9050310

>>9050171
She mentioned earlier that one girl was being really mean to her, and from what I have read its possible because of things arc said about her to get sympathy. Momo for example sang to him to cheer him up...

>> No.9050318

>>9050171
What you mean, that's not new information, they said that in the twit longer that this all became public after he tried to block them all due to his wife finding out, it's even in one of the voice recordings

>> No.9050321

>>9050277
I can see somebody trying to suicide him. He's probably got enough dirt on people to level the entire indie western vtuber scene

>> No.9050329

>>9050277
eh you can always make a new window.

those furries would hire him again in a heartbeat.

>> No.9050333

>>9050277
If he hasn't already drained the bank account and fled the state/country, then some mentally-ill fan is likely going to hunt him down. Assuming, of course, he doesn't do it himself.

>> No.9050349

>>9050277
Ah, man, can you imagine his stream is just him dropping bombs on everyone else. It'd be scummy, but... facinating.

>> No.9050355

>>9050329
kek
he's gonna spend the rest of his life calculating the viscosity or centaur cum

>> No.9050370

>>9050349
>It'd be scummy
Nah, he didn't pick the rules of engagement

>> No.9050398

>>9050321
>He's probably got enough dirt on people to level the entire indie western vtuber scene
Take your meds. No one can "level the entire indie western vtuber scene". Definitely not this fat faggot. The only thing he can level is his 17.8% friendship statistic.

>> No.9050402

i actually pissed of that he chose this whale instead one of the other 3 side ho. she even said one don't care and said she loved him back.

>> No.9050454

>>9050398
You sure about that? How long is he been on VRchat and how deep? How many girls might've tried to trade ERP/nudes/whatever for shilling?

>> No.9050458

Imagine dating someone with no job, i always feel insecure i don't make enough to date anyone.

>> No.9050498

>I could afford to buy enough food for the both of us
X to doubt. The fat piece of shit never stopped eating.

>> No.9050523

>>9050398
I didn't think people would be able to argue against the amount of evidence against him, but /vt/ continues to surprise.

>> No.9050535

He has no drivers licence? goddamn, what.

>> No.9050563

Tiff is an idiot for doing this before divorce. Stuff like this gets rolled super hard by a good lawyer.

>> No.9050575

>>9050563
they aren't actually married

>> No.9050577

>>9050398
I mean he could, in theory, dump a ton of dox on the girls (and other large streamers), which would be hyper shitty if he's going full scorched earth. But, I can't imagine he has a ton of sinister background on many people.

>> No.9050581

>>9050563
They were never married.

>> No.9050582

>32 male
>American
>with no drivers license
>There were times I had to tell him no you can't buy that game
Damn, he really is a man baby. How did he even survive so long

>> No.9050593

>>9050563
fiance

>> No.9050598

>>9050563
Not married, not sure if common law applies though.

>> No.9050622

>>9050582
don't forget he's a "veteran"

>> No.9050624

>>9050598
yeah they don't then so nevermind

>> No.9050651

>>9050598
Common law is barely a thing in the states.

>>9050582
Some people can just make it happen when forced and up against the wall.

>> No.9050681

>>9050575
>>9050581
Pedantically, civil unions vary by state but can be implicitly entered due to e.g. extended cohabitation. I think in Texas there’s a rule of thumb where three people considering you married counts as grounds for an implicit civil union, which I think has similar implications to marriage.
Or some shit I don’t know the law I just piss in the ocean.

>> No.9050683

>>9050577
This. An eye for an eye the whole world goes blind, but since he's already going blind himself...

>> No.9050684

It's amazing how far self esteem can carry you when you hang around nerds. Ugh, wish i was half as confident.

>> No.9050709

>>9050577
Could do so me damage to Zen i guess.

>> No.9050719

>>9050651
>You need to understand, I am rather small, and Arcadum is a "larger" man so to speak. He put his arm over my head and pressed my body against the wall before leaning in and whispering "Can you take me to Games Workshop?" I can still smell the garlic bread on his breath...

>> No.9050728

>stops paying bills without saying anything to go to blizzcon
What a fucking manchild

>> No.9050763

Introvert respet.

>> No.9050781

>>9050651
But it is a thing in Texas.
Texas law states that a common law marriage may be proved by evidence that the couple:

“agreed to be married”; and
“after the agreement they lived together in this state as husband and wife”; and they
“represented to others that they were married”

>> No.9050810

Weirdly i hope Vshojo pick Tiff up just as a middle finger to Arcadum. She seems nice enough.

>> No.9050827

How do useless manbabies like this guy find his way into so many circles when I struggle to get over my social anxiety to even make one friend. its stunning how useless this man is

>> No.9050829

>he got caught planning to run away with another girl in 2014
jesus

>> No.9050837

>>9050781
That's assuming he survives long enough to make it to court. In other news Sivelle is about to launch herself to mid-tier vtuber status because of all this.

>> No.9050839

>>9050709
weird shady stuff went down in VRChat backrooms so it won't be surprising.

>> No.9050868

>he would say "you would make a bad mother" to trigger her
oh my god, crucify this piece of shit

>> No.9050870

>>9050810
While I think she's a good gal and hope the best for her, this is the kind of baggage you don't want tied to your company (especially when its this fresh) regardless of it not being her fault

>> No.9050871

>>9050829
Running? Unlikely

>> No.9050877

>you would be a bad mother
why care about that opinion?
She sounds awkward as fuck desu.

>> No.9050878

>>9050827
because people like this don't lack confidence and question their worth unlike others. It's truly a blessing to some extent.

>> No.9050883

>>9050837
>That's assuming he survives long enough to make it to court
I really hope he carries
>In other news Sivelle is about to launch herself to mid-tier vtuber status because of all this
What an unexpected, but very convenient, turn of events!

>> No.9050892

Well, fucking glad he didn't put a kid in her. Can you imagine him as a dad. Man i bet Haruka calling him Mr Dad was absolute gold to him.

>> No.9050910

>>9050827
being an extrovert helps.

>> No.9050921

So this brewing debacle was the impetus for the theme of Otikata's Curse?

>> No.9050924

>>9050837
Viewers from stuff like this never sticks.

>> No.9050926

>>9050810
The girls, without question, are going lift her out of the bottom. Signing her up or no.

>> No.9050932

>>9050582
I mean you have the answer, by abusively mooching off everyone around him and somehow having enough charisma to pull it off (but not enough to pull it off well)

>> No.9050975

>>9050926
I dunno. The way she's been talking, it sounds like she doesn't stop her anger at Arcadum, it spreads to everyone involved, especially the girls affected. She's the alpha victim, and the girls are beta victims.

>> No.9050995

>To win argument, he wouldn't stop until his opponent was completely destroyed
What a fucking chad

>> No.9050996

>>9050975
she literally just said she can't stand negative emotions. I honestly don't think she has any hate left in her.

>> No.9051052

>>9050996
She's got bigger logistical and emotional issues to deal with in her position than trying to litigate the past

>> No.9051057

>>9050995
>chad
>can't take the L when someone oneshots his crappy design boss
yeah

>> No.9051056

>>9050996
no wonder she's the astral traveler

>> No.9051065

>>9050924
From this stream purely? Absolutely not. But, because of this everyone with more than 5 viewers in the vtuber scene and solid percentage of Arcs old base are going to carry her for at least the interim.

Not to be too cynical, but, nothing is more dangerous than a woman's tears.

>> No.9051112

>>9050975
I wouldn't even consider the girls victims. It's clear they did this out of spite and didn't even think or care about how it would affect her. Isn't her mom in the hospital or something? Kinda a shit time to drop this bomb. All those other girls are pretty much homewreckers

>> No.9051136

This stream seems a bit strange.

>> No.9051142

>>9051112
Doesn't it make sense to do it now, rather than individually and have all their evidence get doubted?

>> No.9051145

>>9050975
That's not a wrong opinion. I don't think she's angry at everyone else, but, I think she was hoping for this to end by someone else opening the door to his bullshit so she'd have an escape route. It just didn't happen fast enough.

>> No.9051176

The sad part is that incels on this site will write all this off as "woman crying for attention" rather than recognize that this was legit abuse from a faggot that doesn't deserve any whiteknighting.

>> No.9051191

is.. is arcadum in her chat right now?

>> No.9051202

>>9051136
as a wizard and having no relationship experience at all, i agree. i personally thought i would hear on what the bitches did not this boring nuances.

well i'm going to sleep i'm hype to see the new model tomorrow.

>> No.9051209

the sniff of aggression?

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>>9051191
Yep. And is even still a mod for some reason

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>>9051191
possibly, might just be his account logged in on his PC at home

>> No.9051223

>>9051176
The incels here go on about "well why didn't she do anything sooner" as victims have the strength to just up and leave.
You can tell people here didn't actually read any of the allegations either.

>> No.9051224

>>9051136
just a female venting dirty laundry. Typical shit which we all love to hate.

>> No.9051231

also, Momo's watching, and followed her 20 minutes ago

>> No.9051236

>>9051209
Often called "sharp intake of air"

>> No.9051267

>>9051215
I don't think the modlist shows online mods, but every mod. Autocomplete doesn't show him in chat at least.

>> No.9051274

>>9051202
I'm not defending Arcadum but the way this stream is going seems a bit inappropriate if she really is the main victim. She's raking in them views.

>>9051236
That's what the term is for? I always thought that was a general term for anything including wincing.

>> No.9051305

>>9050827
Its literally just confidence and having a skill other people want to make use of (DM-ing for noobs).

>> No.9051306

>>9051223
I mean, she could have confronted whoever the first girl she caught him with, or the second, perhaps even the 8th girl. Could've ended this, with the same result, much earlier.

>> No.9051311

>>9051176
Just fucking disheartens me that people are like that. But if they've never experienced that stuff i guess it can seem fictional or made up... geh, i need to stop trying to understand both sides.

>> No.9051310

Half of this stuff honestly sounds like "oh also, oh also" kind of shit women do. I dunno what I was expecting to be honest.

>> No.9051317

>>9051267
Nope, shows only online mods. Just checked my own chat.

>> No.9051319

>>9051274
*anything that involved a sharp inhale, including wincing.

>> No.9051341

>>9051306
no, women are helpless and can't make decisions of their own and need guidance.
But also they are powerful and independent.
Paradox of the modern times.

>> No.9051349

>>9050827
I know, i've ghosted friends in the past because i felt unworthy of having them. Just, fuckin man.

>> No.9051351

I guess her venting like this is better than telling just a few friends and it leaking out and becoming a mutated story.

>> No.9051368

>>9051306
You're not wrong, I just meant that it isn't quite that easy.

>> No.9051385

>>9051368
>it isn't quite that easy
It literally is. She clearly had the girls contacts.

>> No.9051386

>>9051351
venting online is never a good thing anon.

>> No.9051398

>>9051310
Thats what happens when you haven't made or prepared a script, especially when its been going for long its become "normal".

>> No.9051411

>>9051306
>>9051341
This

>> No.9051416

i guess arc heard enough, he left

>> No.9051419

>>9051231
Mira, some folks from Nyan's mod team and mowtendo is as well.

>> No.9051430

>>9051385
You're just proving my earlier point then.

>> No.9051437

>>9050318
Yeah but they were wording it like "We all got blocked and got upset and then started sharing stories with each other and we were SHOCKED"

Sivelle is proving that all of them knew and all of them didn't give a shit and were more than willing to be a Casting Couch for DnD and clout.
As soon as the clout ran dry there was nothing left for them to excuse Arc for so they coordinated and destroyed him.

>> No.9051440

>>9051419
>mowtendo is as well
interesting

>> No.9051443

>>9051416
I heard enough too, cute fox is on anyway
https://www.twitch.tv/anny

>> No.9051446

>that one guy spamming ResidentSleeper

lol, i stand by my comment on dumping this bitch and him moving on and choosing kelli

>> No.9051451

Will this stream be able to save arcadum? if hes recording right now he might use it in his stream

>> No.9051466

>>9050349
This is EXCACTLY WHAT HE SHOULD DO
If you're going down and there is no way to climb back up make it a murder suicide.

>> No.9051470

>I can't hate him, I still love him
Oh boy, this is a bad road for her to stay on. Arcadum comeback is already in the works.

>> No.9051495

if he redeems himself, will the girls be stubborn about it, or will they continue with the dnd campaign?

>> No.9051496

Why couldn't all this Arcadum shit happen after Wednesday's game
I'm gonna miss among the reeds

>> No.9051497

>>9051443
>"let me fuck"

I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE

>> No.9051516

>>9051495
never going to happen anon

>> No.9051520

>>9051495
Ain't no fucking way that's still going after this.

>> No.9051522

>>9051496
Same, I was interested in seeing how they would end up completely destroying Arcadum's punishment campaign.

>> No.9051542

>>9051470
this just means she's as much of an enabler in a backhanded way of his behavior as he himself is.

>> No.9051543

>>9051495
He won't, they won't. The characters may live on, but this campaign, and the whole world of Verum is gone.

>> No.9051564

You know what they should have done? They should have coordinated their hitpieces and laid it all out AFTER the DnD sessions.
>Bro do you really think DnD is more important than their mental health
Yes
But more importantly, they should have coordinated to be as gamey as fuck and basically be such creative and annoying players that they basically completely ruin his Campaign plans and make him look like a fool of a DM. THEN release the stuff

>> No.9051571

>>9051306
Sometimes this kind of stuff is hard to do. From everything she's said so far she's been a grade-A introvert trapped in an abusive relationship too scared to take that final step until last weekend. Not everyone is capable of that kind of shit.

>> No.9051572

>>9051543
Callous row is moving on without him at least, Verum is too much him though.

>> No.9051601

>>9051495
only if this stuff gets proven to be bullshit, edited discord convos and out of context voice recordings etc
Which weirder stuff happened but this looks very unlikely. I would also say never trust a person with BPD as well but I can't bring myself to not trust Momo.

>> No.9051603

>>9051386
that too but I wonder if her logic is partly that any girls who were nasty to her will hear her full side.

>> No.9051611

>>9051571
She also said it early in the stream, that he'd also say "I don't want to be responsible for another man's actions", because she had been in an even more abusive relationship and he was basically her knight-in-shining-armor at the time.

>> No.9051613

>>9051495
They should, otherwise there's literally no incentive for him to go to therapy and work on himself etc..

>> No.9051638

>>9051613
not to mention varum is bigger than any of this drama, any player/dm/mod that decided to drop the dnd games due to this is being a selfish cunt

>> No.9051643

>>9051603
and because girls will be girls they will fire back at her? It's a vicious circle.

>> No.9051654

>>9051613
Dude is radioactive now.

>> No.9051657

>Arcadum is live
>him sitting there waiting for people to join
>explains that the women manipulated him into virtual sex and how his wife enjoyed being cucked
>some how makes a comeback and explains everything perfectly
>everything is back to normal and the women are left as lying manipulating people
>all the while this song is playing on loop for the entire stream
https://youtu.be/4Nz3DL6EXtQ

This won't happen but it's so fucking funny to think about at least to me

>> No.9051659
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9051659

>>9039517
What kind of animal do you think the new Vshojo will be? Or will they get their first human member?

>> No.9051667

>>9051176
You don't fall for "grooming" attempts in 2021, especially as a vtuber. You would have to be really retarded. It's obvious this this is faked and purely a means of getting money.

>> No.9051703

>>9051667
Yeah man abuse hasn't happened since 2017.

>> No.9051717

>>9051657
but what if Visigoth - Dungeon Master was looping instead?
I would also settle for Master of Puppets because the lyrics seem fitting

>> No.9051718

>>9051659
I want a Nintendo 64 vtuber

>> No.9051728

>>9051654
"Now" being keyword. As in, right now. Steps towards self-improvement should be met with reciprocity

>> No.9051758

>>9051657
I mean it would be super funny if like 2-3 months later it turns out that it it was all bullshit setup just like with Depp. But the chances of it are almost zero.

>> No.9051767

Um. This just occurred to me, but if the fat lard wants to ultimately "win" this "fight" against Tiff, all he needs to do is anhero. He would break her so hard that she'd end up being committed. And I think he knows that. In fact, I'd go so far to say that she needs to shut up right now and call the cops to make sure he doesn't commit suicide to spite her.

>> No.9051780

>>9051758
With the sheer amount of people who came forward, I can't imagine that being the case.

>> No.9051781

she's really up here considering making some dumb decisions out loud

>> No.9051783

>>9051728
That's a multi-year arc, for lack of a better word, to get to a fraction of where he was at 2 weeks ago.

>> No.9051794

>>9051767
Yeah, because this man child will have the spine to go through with that.

>> No.9051814

>>9051780
The problem is the majority of the accusations are "he's fucking creepy dude" with buzzwords like "Grooming' thrown in to the mix.

Only a small handful are actually claims.

>> No.9051820

>>9051659
PS1 low poly Vtuber who only plays PS1 style horror games.

>> No.9051824

>>9051794
Man just lost his career, home, and most of his support network. Never underestimate a cornered animal.

>> No.9051830

>>9051780
considering half these people are nothingburgers just to pile up on stuff and some tranny cloutchasers don't rule it out. But the chance of it is still like 0.5%

>> No.9051843

Why is she streaming?
Is she clearing points up or making new ones?
Or just crying on stream for attention?

>> No.9051866

>>9051767
He'll probably find some poor shy nerd to creep on who's outside this sphere of drama and has no clue and leach off her until whenever.

>> No.9051869

>>9051814
>Grooming
When you're past 17 it's just emotional manipulation.
Oh shit, now she's throwing doubt on an accuser.

>> No.9051886

>>9051824
I would much rather see him drop some bombs on other people than neck himself. If you're going down at least take as many people as possible. Like Zen was a legit creep during her early VRChat days.

>> No.9051893

>>9051843
Yes

>> No.9051901

>>9051824
He's not cornered, this is 99% internet and twitch drama. No one outside Twitch even knows about this.

>> No.9051913

>>9051869
>I feel like there's maybe 1 or 2 of these girls that he just made feel awkward and they're blowing it out of proportion
based and redpilled?

>> No.9051915

>>9051869
>now she's throwing doubt on an accuser.
LMAO Women are truly their own worst enemy

>> No.9051916

I know it shouldn't surprise me, considering how long i've been on this damn site, but the sheer lack of empathy here i find troubling.
But i guess i'm a cuck who's easily swayed by feefees instead of being a logical chad.

>> No.9051920

>>9051901
All his friends were online and know though

>> No.9051941

>>9051901
Never mind the megathreads on multiple subreddits, it trending on Twitter... Or the fact he couldn't even hold down a job at Home Depot to sustain himself alone. He is on borrowed time and knows it.

>> No.9051955

>>9051916
Yes. You shouldn't get invested in these randoms on the Internet feelings, buddy. it's not healthy. They will sort it out themselves without (You). Just enjoy the show.

>> No.9051962

>Streaming to a bunch of Guys who like DnD wanting to show you support
>Call them all awkward dudes
>Call them dudes that would make her feel uncomfortable and that she picked Arcadum over them
WOMAN
GAIN SOME FUCKING IQ POINTS
YOU ALREADY DUG 5ft OF YOUR GRAVE
DONT FINISH IT OFF

>> No.9051974

>>9051916
You're not allowed to feel bad for someone who happens to be a woman, anon. That's SJW nonsense.

>> No.9051980

>>9051916
It's mostly just shitposting anon. Most people have empathy, it's just easier to make jokes and stuff here. Can't speak for the actual schizos though

>> No.9051990

I don't really care about this whole drama I just want to see some incel neckbeard anhero either physically or metaphorically

>> No.9052004

>>9051916
>sheer lack of empathy
It's one thing to have a cool head to see that the lardass is just collateral damage in a virtual catfight. It's another to just side with one of the bitches and say "she's the apex victim, support her".
Don't try to justify your retardation with "muh ebul 4chen".

>> No.9052022

>>9051916
>but the sheer lack of empathy here i find troubling.
Pay attention to what she's saying anon.
She TRIES very hard for the sympathy card and then in the NEXT FUCKING SENTENCE she backtracks and says she loves him and he wasn't that bad of a guy and that she understands him and people Shouldn't be hating on him.

Instead of twisting the knife like what is expected she's patching up his wounds and giving him more of an out that he originally had.
He probably could get her to take him back within a week if she's this emotionally retarded

>> No.9052025

>>9051814
>>9051824
>>9051830
This

>> No.9052034

>>9051962
I have never seen someone take their high ground and dig it into a hole so quickly.

>> No.9052077

I'm so confused, is she fucking making excuses for him being a turbo sperg?

>> No.9052080

>>9051901
His job was Twitch and he has no useful life or social skills

>> No.9052081

>"Some of the people that are coming out just seem to have had an awkward experience with him"
True and real. She's being more honest about it than i thought

>> No.9052113

>>9052077
She's going around in circles now.

>> No.9052119

>>9052077
Yes
She is defending him while she cries about all the abuse she's gotten from him
Either literally Stockholm syndrome or her thoughts are more scattered than mumei mixed with auqa

>> No.9052132

>>9052022
>not being a man-hating harpy who's only life mission is living her revenge fantasies makes her emotionally retarded
Autism

>> No.9052154

bitch all you had to do is shit on him some more. This would've been a great win for MeToo and all victims and women who suffer from the same shit. But you fucked up...

>> No.9052159

>>9052119
Why not both?

>> No.9052185

>>9052154
No one even got metood, all he did was cheat on his gf

>> No.9052195

This whole situation has me thinking back to the anons who were told to take their meds for calling out Arcadum for setting his sights on vshojo and seeming to have his sights on froot during one of the apex collabs.

>> No.9052211

>>9052185
Jacking off is not cheating

>> No.9052225

>>9052211
Ever had a girlfriend anon?

>> No.9052233

>>9052195
I was one of those told to take my meds. This shit has vindicated all the "I told you so" I'll need for years.

>> No.9052234

>>9052195
Broken clocks anon, don't give the schizos here any credits.

>> No.9052239

>>9052185
Let's not pretend he didn't act like a complete autist in almost every leaked log or audio call. Like actual autism

>> No.9052251

>>9051703
These girls ate more than smart enough to not fall for the dumbest shit is the point, unless you think all women are victims or something equally stupid.

>> No.9052259

>>9052239
not just an autist, a coomer autist

>> No.9052264

>habitually says 'I love you'
>accidentally says it to strangers
is this woman the medicine that nyan needs?

>> No.9052277

>>9052234
broken clocks are more often correct than those going at 90% speed

>> No.9052313

>>9052251
Unless they aren't smart enough, clearly. Yes, you have to be stupid to fall for this shit, but some people are that stupid

>> No.9052318

>>9052259
-3 ch for autism, -4 int for coomer brain. He had good rolls to compensate for a while, just had that streak run out.

>> No.9052322

>>9052234
Every person near vshojo that I've called out and was called a schizo for has turned out to be trash so far, except for noble. Somehow he's immune.

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>>9052277
made me laugh, but the more I think of it: what-uh?

>> No.9052408

>>9052322
Who did you call out? (other than arc)

>> No.9052411

Now she's full on defending him against accusers. She went from shovel to backhoe.

>> No.9052429

>>9052322
you sayin Anthony Padilla isn't good people?

>> No.9052439

>>9052225
You think men stop masturbating when they are in a relationship? Have YOU ever had a girlfriend?

>> No.9052444

>>9052408
Digi, cosmic, nux, david nash off the top of my head

>> No.9052452

>>9052411
inb4 she shits on Momo and other accusers and deconstructs this whole thing from the inside because Woman.

>> No.9052468

>>9052154
Go on cunt, just call her a "gender traitor" or a "pick-me girl". Come on

>> No.9052474

>>9052411
NOW SHE HAS SAID THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT SHE WAS ABUSIVE AND APOLOGIZING FOR IT. WHAT IN THE GODDAMN?

>> No.9052477

>>9052444
What's wrong with those guys?

>> No.9052480

>>9052439
If you're messaging other women to help you masturbate, that's cheating. It's using another person to help you get off.

>> No.9052489

>>9052444
Fucking autocracy *devan

>> No.9052493

>>9052444
I don't think Nux is particuarly intersted in women.

>> No.9052501

>>9052384
schizos saying their stuff have a greater chance of being correct than anti-schizos who dismiss everything at face value/"because that sounds ridiculous anon!"
or something like that

>> No.9052506

>>9052411
And this is why abuse like this often keeps happening. People get so entrenched in relationships that they start doing more mental gymnastics than /pol/ in order to justify staying with someone. It doesn't matter that he never physically hit her. Everything she's outlined thus far has been far worse damage than a single or multiple punches could have ever done. But that's her lifeline right now given how much she's mentioned it. Because he never hit her, she still has to love him and defend him. Even when everything points to that being the wrong move.

>> No.9052513

>>9052480
is watching porn cheating too?

>> No.9052523

>>9052480
>It's using another person to help you get off
>that's cheating
No, that's porn

>> No.9052529

>>9052468
The point is she started this stream talking about all the nasty shit she's dealt with dating him, she changed her mind mid-stream

>> No.9052532

So what time she gonna start playing apex? Someone ask in chat.

>> No.9052533

>>9052513
Yes? Why the fuck would you think it's not.

>> No.9052551

>>9052533
femanon hands wrote this

>> No.9052555

>>9052513
>>9052523
Porn doesn't have a live person interacting with you, whether physically or by text. Are you guys retarded

>> No.9052561

>>9052533
I hope you never, ever, ever manage to con somebody into a relationship with you. You should be on a fucking list

>> No.9052563

>>9052439
Go tell your girl that you jack it to your online friend and see how it goes. I'll wait.

>> No.9052565

>Amazing DM line
Yeah no. You were in an abusive relationship with That DM and because of that you only know his shitty way of "playing"

>> No.9052576

Now she's really laying the defense on. Oh boy. Defending him, and crying that she'll never be able to play DnD with him anymore.

>> No.9052580
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9052580

Damn. She's that torn up about not being able to play dnd anymore

>>9052533
I can't imagine considering porn or masturbation as cheating, but what do I know about relationships?

>> No.9052581

>>9052555
>>9052533
your point?

>> No.9052586

>>9052555
Cool, let's explore this. Does having an OnlyFans account count as cheating?

>> No.9052598

>He's such a great story teller
>He's such a great DM
>I hope he never stops creating
Bitch what the fuck?

>> No.9052612

>>9052586
Yes. You're (the one with the onlyfans) helping people who aren't your partner get off.

>> No.9052618

>>9052586
No? It's a job.

>> No.9052619

>>9052580
Porn and masturbation isn't, the key part is that he was doing it with women he knew.

>> No.9052624

>>9052529
Or maybe she was angry at the situation at the start of her stream and managed to collect her thoughts as the stream went by

>> No.9052630

>hate
>hate
>hate
This is a PSA in an attempt to at least keep Otikata's Curse alive

>>9052598
he didn't blow up in popularity for nothing, right? or is there something else that exalted him?

>> No.9052642

>>9052598
>I hope he never stops creating
When did he start? Seriously, when did he ever have a single original idea that wasn't a rip off of whatever the fuck media he consumed recently?

>> No.9052641

It sounds like what's best for everyone is if she just accepts his apology and returns to normal instead of continuing this sherade, then get rid of the homewreckers near him.

>> No.9052669

>>9052612
>>9052618
I don't mean putting up content. I mean being a customer on OnlyFans. Does that count as cheating?

>> No.9052680

>>9052612
Fuck i should cancel my netflix sub because im helping some fat corpo to get off
fuck man
fuck

>> No.9052684

>>9052641
She's pretty clearly abused, anon. It's common for people in that situation to still "love" their abuser, even if they obviously shouldn't.
Overall, it's her decision though, doesn't mean it'd be a good one if she welcomes him back.

>> No.9052709

>>9052586
I'd put that in a weird grey area because you are individually supporting someone, but probably not interacting with them. It would certainly be... a conversation.

Nothing wrong with jerking off to nobodies the algorithm on pornhub sends at you or reading dirty comics though.

>> No.9052721

>>9052641
This, 100%. The girls have had their time in the limelight, now it's time for the adults to take charge

>> No.9052723

>>9052669
I don't know how it works tbf. You don't interact with onlyfans girls, do you? If you do, it's cheating. If not, it's porn

>> No.9052747

>>9050975
on twitter didn't she bitch and moan that the girls never to took the time to get to know her and hear her side and claimed that her pain was somehow worse than her pain?

It's so hard for me to have sympathy with someone who publicly supported a pig for so many years. if that sounds like victim-blaming, then I guess I'm guilty of that, but I strongly get the impression these 2 characters emotionally abused each other constantly and there wasn't just one victim.

if you are a private person and not an entertainer and you're scared and beaten down physically or emotionally by your husband and scared to leave him, then my heart goes out to you, but when you are a public person and you promote and encourage your husband's success even though he's a scumbag, that's what I have a hard time with

full disclosure: i liked Arcadum before this and liked his content, but I didn't know him well. she knew him well.

>> No.9052756

>>9052384
He doesn't know old mechanical clocks need to be adjusted pretty regularly.

>> No.9052770

>>9052598
In his apology speech he should unironically clip this and say He will not stop creating
Then say he's gonna focus on more male-focused campaigns with male guests and invite some of his fans.
Then you post on twitter everything about your life that you "improved"
Say you found a place to rent
Say because you're alone you learned to pay bills and clean your room
Every time you do this make a subtle hint that you're, as they always say, "being better"
After 4-5 sessions the girls will start crawling back to him.
And he can try fucking them again
They're so damaged, and he's actually so good at emotional manipulation he could actually come back bigger, better, and more groomy than ever but since he's a fag he's just going to take the L and die quietly .

>> No.9052774

>>9052721
Adults did take charge though. Or are you really still defending the fat bastard thinking he's going to somehow come back from this?

>> No.9052813

>>9052723
>If you do, it's cheating
Why? They are doing their job. Is being emotionally open (and, possibly, have some exclusivity) with a therapist count as cheating?

>> No.9052823

>>9052770
You know, he's autistic enough that he probably will do something like this.

>> No.9052836

>>9052770
>Implying they'd come back
If that's all it took cancellations like this wouldn't even be a big deal

>> No.9052846

>>9052813
Honestly being more open to your therapist than to your wife means you have serious relationship problems

>> No.9052874

>>9052770
This so much, and i hope it will evolve just like real-life #MeToo evolved: directors are hiring less women

>> No.9052882

>>9052813
>doing their job
The person who has an onlyfans account is doing their job. The one you asked about, the subscriber, is cheating if he interacts with an onlyfans girl. He isn't doing a job, he's emptying his balls

>> No.9052886

>>9052770
>and say He will not stop creating
Kinda hard to create when your entire artist community just kicked you to the curb and many big name streamers have blacklisted you. He might be able to con some 2views into playing with him but this isn't going to work for the long run.

>> No.9052912

>>9052886
Just have to start over with indies.

>> No.9052926

>>9052886
So he's back to when he started his career online
That's not dead
Thats re-debut with a starting follower boost.

>> No.9052968

>>9052882
Yes, THE GIRL is doing her job. The guy is masturbarting to a professional. Masturbation is not cheating. You are not entitled to your partner's masturbatory habits

>> No.9052987

>>9052912
>>9052926
With what money? He didn't make nearly enough to live on his own AND start from scratch again. This isn't a reset button. He will always have to fight the stigma of being That DM that abused and manipulated people. All it will take to break any momentum he's gaining is to tell the people he's theoretically playing with that he's a piece of shit and to drop him. He can't just get rid of that. It will never go away. He cannot stream D&D ever again without facing it.

>> No.9052992

In general I'm disgusted with Sivelle for supporting that piece of shit for so long when she knew a great deal more than any of us did about his shady side.

But I will give her credit for one thing: she hasn't deleted the VOD (yet)!

If I were her, I would spew my piece and cry and handwring then nuke the fuck out of the VOD. let clippers preserve it for posterity, but not host that crap on my own page, for godsakes.

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>>9052968
Or you could just not masturbate and contribute to women thinking its a good business to be a harlot.

>> No.9053006

Literally all she had to do was shit on the guy for a half hour stream. How do you blow it this bad? She had all the support in the world, and she chose to backtrack on the accusers and support Arcadum in a less than roundabout way.

>> No.9053027

>>9053006
Yeah she chose to do the right thing instead of joining the lynching mob

>> No.9053035

>>9052994
Based

>> No.9053038 [DELETED] 

>>9052968
>If I ask my discord friends to help me jack off, it's not cheating cuz I'm only touching myself
If you say so

>> No.9053037

>>9053006
Because feelings are complicated.

>> No.9053056

>>9052994
k, friend. now go back where you belong. go back while you still can.

>> No.9053071

>>9052987
He didn't even do much of the work himself. So much was made by the community or people he hired.
He could maybe be a regular paid DM, but a streamer? No way.

>> No.9053080

>>9053038
>forming an emotional connection to a rando vs vs fapping to an amateur prostitute
Yeah same thing

>> No.9053108

I hope our girls gently tell her how wrong she is and that it's all just Stockholm syndrome talking. Strong female support group acting as a voice of reason is what women need in situations like this.

>> No.9053111

rewatching her VOD.
Is she illiterate or just nervous? She pronounced the word "disingenuous" as "dis in generous" not once but like 4 times.

>> No.9053117

>>9053080
Do you know what this whole situation is about anon? He fapped to his friends. He isn't being cancelled because he opened a porn magazine.

>> No.9053128

>>9053080
well, I was bringing it back to what we were actually talking about, this situation. If you think you can only cheat with an emotional bond, I'm sure you'll make some lucky woman very happy

>> No.9053141

>>9053006
Honestly i think my opinion of him is worse now, i mean, he's a disgusting manbaby who mainpulates everyone around him to get what he wants, she's still under his influence in a roundabout way, which is why she's defending him in a roundabout way.
Sure he hasn't done anything criminal, but it's still awful how he treated her.

>> No.9053143

>>9053071
Exactly. He was so reliant on others to do the heavy lifting (and not even properly paid/praised) that he couldn't start over even if he wanted to.

But I will say this - at least some of the anons here aren't so far into incel territory like some of the /tg/ posters spamming threads about this over there.

>> No.9053146 [DELETED] 

>>9053128
>I was bringing it back
>masturbating is cheating
Yeah you did

>> No.9053182

>>9053146
ah so you're just a retard. Gotcha.

>> No.9053194

>>9053108
I hope she doesn't give into peer pressure and brainwashing. Women can think for themselves, they don't have a party line to toe

>> No.9053201

I've known guys like this and i am honestly surprised he didn't try mainputling her into being "poly" but maybe he dosen't like sharing or being compared to other guys.

>> No.9053212

at least Vshojo won't be as stupid as Tiff. No forgiveness no quarter. Burn his platform of power and influence.

>> No.9053227

Ok someone give me a qrd did she walk all her claims back now or some shit?

>> No.9053260

>>9053201
>maybe he dosen't like sharing or being compared to other guys.
Tiff hinted as much during her beginning segment, going so far as saying he would use her old relationship as a weapon in arguments and abuse.

>> No.9053271

>>9053194
it's not peer pressure. She's stressed and abused. She needs people who actually care for her to show her the way. Don't expect a man to understand it though.

>> No.9053299

>>9053037
it's true. she talks about how happy he made her, and you can't just instantly discount all that. and I speak for a lot of vshofriends when I Arcadum he made us happy to. He made Mouse happy, Vei, Nyan and Haruka happy and so many others.

that's one of the reasons i am so pissed at him for ruining all that

>> No.9053312

>>9053271
>Don't expect a man to understand
But you'll never be a woman, by that logic you wouldn't understand either

>> No.9053315

>>9053271
>I don't expect a man to understand that people should be told what to think
U wot

>> No.9053377

>>9053299
I'm more pissed that 10 people decided their comfort outweighed the happiness of thousands

>> No.9053455

>>9053377
>Other people must suffer so that I may laugh at sex jokes and le quirky D&D nonsense!
Seek actual help. You are just as bad as he is.

>> No.9053467

>>9053377
>their comfort
not sure if you are trolling, or you are actual scum or both.
you sound like Cosby's wife or something. Cosby made peepo laugh so let's keep this sex abuse stuff under wraps.
"their comfort". what a retarded thing to say. it's their fucking DIGNITY he violated, one of the most important human needs. it's not some comfort or luxury. and they aren't throwing him or prison or hitting him over the head with a baseball bat. they're just sharing their experiences.

>> No.9053484

>>9053455
Jesus anon that was surface level bait come on

>> No.9053502

After this stream there is a very high chance Arcadum comes back to her, they cut down on online presence and social media and live a relatively stable life with no homewreckers.

>> No.9053505

>>9053484
>I was just pretending to be retarded!
Poe's Law. You don't call this shit out now you'll have faggots parroting it for years.

>> No.9053515

>>9053484
there are definitely people who unironically think what he said, regardless of whether that anon was just having a bit of fun.

>> No.9053539

>>9053006
Most of the accusers are almost as shitty as arcadum. They're spiteful homewreckers plain and simple. Only one I see as a victim in all this right now is sivelle. Hope she completely cuts ties and doesn't let him come crawling back to shit in his adult diapers all day.

>> No.9053558

damn i thought hololive's policies made them impersonal and the whole "kayfabe" thing is absolutely cringe but they might actually be onto something. i cannot stress how little i care about the unhappy relationship between these two autistic fatties and how one of them was kind of creepy in discord pms and we all know cover would shut this shit down immediately

>> No.9053581

>>9053539
well Momo too. Though she has BPD so take her side with a grain of salt.

>> No.9053585

>>9053502
Until he actually hits her and we then see her as a domestic violence statistic on the nightly news. But never mind that because Disney released some new MCU movie and Kim Cardassian has new shoes!

This world fucking sucks. We would be better off burned away and the slate wiped clean.

>> No.9053599

>>9053502
One can only hope

>> No.9053601

>>9053581
Why does that make a difference?

>> No.9053602
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9053602

Does anyone have any gifs like this of the other girls?

>> No.9053610

https://www.twitch.tv/sivelle/clip/MoistArbitraryLionTooSpicy-RgsQoeb9iBVlwG58
unf

>> No.9053619

>>9053585
sure thing edgelord. World sucks, deal with it. Wanna change it? Do some community work.

>> No.9053629

>>9053455
>Tens of thousands should suffer so that i may score some sympathy internet points
Boy, you love power. I hope you'll never actually have any

>> No.9053632

>>9053539
I don't know the other girls and can't speak to their character but Momo literally did NOTHING wrong. she has a huge heart and cares for people. she struggles with trauma and prbly mental illnes, and she was only being a shoulder to cry on for her friend and trying to be supportive of someone she thought was a good guy.

I also listened to the Naomi phone call and she sounds like an extremely sane and moral person. victim blaming is tiresome.

>> No.9053676

>>9053601
have you had any experience with people with BPD? Compulsive lying, mood swings every few days and irrational behavior is prime in people with it. It's not their fault of course, they can't help it.

>> No.9053687

>>9053629
Being a utilitarian edgelord should lose its fascination at around the age of 19 or 20. If you are older than that, feel ashamed and harm yourself.

>> No.9053694

>>9053632
Don't bother, anon. All these antis never so much as read a twitlonger or listened to the audios. They just latched on to the party line like good little sycophants "defending a poor man from le evil women SJWs"

>> No.9053726

>>9053676
I have actually. They're nice people.

>> No.9053738

>>9053539
>Most of the accusers are almost as shitty as arcadum. They're spiteful homewreckers plain and simple.
This, so much this. The facts that
1) They all came out THE SECOND the clout faucets were closed and
2) A few of them baited him into conversations THAT THEY THEN RECORDED
are red flags the size of continents

>> No.9053776

>>9053632
The fact that she recorded hwr private phone calls is a massive red flag for me. I cant trust people who do this

>> No.9053795

>>9053738
>i'm an run-of-the-mill incel, but with the slight quirk that i pretend to care about arcadum's gf
that's good to know, anon. how charming.

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>This, so much this.
Did literally every single Discord ban you people from discussing this?

>> No.9053803

>>9053687
>harm yourself
I don't suffer from a certain delusion that tells me my genitals are wrong, i'll be fine

>> No.9053805

>>9053776
Nice bait

>> No.9053846

>>9053632
Said most not all.
>>9053694
Clearly wasn't defending the man baby retard.

>> No.9053894

>>9053795
>i will call you an incel because my entire worth is based around how many people i get to fuck me, because that's the only thing i'm good for
Likewise lol

>> No.9053965

>>9053776
recording phone calls is definitely a shitty thing to do... from the perspective of the con-artist on the other end getting caught on tape.

>> No.9053969

>>9052992
>But I will give her credit for one thing: she hasn't deleted the VOD (yet)!
Thankfully i've just downloaded it

>> No.9054005

>>9053894
even you're smart enough to know that incel isn't about numbers or "body count," as the kids like to say. it's about your lovely mindset.

>> No.9054007

>>9053965
do you record calls with people you talk to? You fucking creep.

>> No.9054040

>>9054007
Nice one. You really got him.

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>>9054005
Ah, i see. What a fascinating insight in the mind of a tranny

>> No.9054104

>>9053965
Obviously people dont release recordings whrere everything is fine.
Its the principle. Who else does she record? Does she not trust them? Who does she have blackmail on?

Has she always recorded arc or was she setting him up on advance of the big reveal?
If thats true than most of the twitlongers saying they "only discovered the abuse recently" are outright lies.

All im saying is if her post was like momos and didnt have recorded audio id respect it but now she is a massive red flag for anybody working with her in future imo

>> No.9054105

>>9054007
i haven't needed to recently did, but i did when i was trying to be scammed by someone running an phony business, and i would do so again person if the I'm talking to is trying to fuck me over or threaten or abuse me.

>> No.9054125

>>9054104
>Does she not trust them?
I think that's pretty obvious anon. Did you even listen to the audio or read the twitlonger?

>> No.9054136

>>9054005
>>9054074
Your both incels kek

>> No.9054154

>>9053776
Do you honestly think that was the first time?
When a detective solves a case do you not trust the guy for snooping around so much?
There's a minimum level of such behavior you need to even make these accusations.

>> No.9054261

>>9054105
sounds more like you are a scammer who tries to set gullible people up and then blackmails them

>> No.9054290

>>9054154
>bait people
>record them
>blackmail them
Holy shit, yeah she should work for the police

>> No.9054330

>>9054136
*Your

>> No.9054365

>>9054261
>and then blackmails them
lol it's the same esl from yesterday

>> No.9054380

>>9054261
if that is what i am, then i welcome people to record my phone calls with them, as they should if I am a scammer.

>> No.9054437

>>9054330
(you)

>> No.9054447

>>9054365
what's wrong with his english, buddy? Too much projecting maybe?

>> No.9054501

>>9054447
No need for an s

>> No.9054524

here's my medless rrat in light of all this
Zen uses TTS not because insecure or stutter. It's because if they use their actual voice people will recognize them as some certain fucked up creep who groomed people or underaged VRC members.

>> No.9054534

>>9054104
>All im saying is if her post was like momos and didnt have recorded audio id respect it but now she is a massive red flag for anybody working with her in future imo
this is so massively dumb. you're basically saying, "i believe testimony that includes limited evidence but i am skeptical of testimony that includes very strong evidence"
again, i acknowledge recording phone calls is a TERRIBLE thing... for malefactors who are doing something sleazy on the other of the line.

>> No.9054539

>>9054501
ESLchama...

>> No.9054569

>>9054539
ESLchama...

>> No.9054585

>>9054501
I won't question that you're a burger EOP. Your education is THAT bad.

>> No.9054672

>>9054524
I honestly think Mel and co would have done their checks on Zen before letting them on and probably heard their real voice.

>> No.9054705

>>9054534
So you think its just ok to record people no matter how much they trust you because one day you might need the evidence to bury them
You know they do offer meds for paranoia

>> No.9054713

>>9054524
Zen misbehaved and trolled and told lies online when he was younger (as did I and as did all of you fucking losers), but he shaped up his act and is a force for positivity and love now.

You can dig into his past and pull whatever crap you can find, and I predict you will find nothing that anyone but holobronies who already hate Zen give a flying fuck about.

i keep reading all this " OMG Zen will be next to be MeToo'd!!!" and it reminds me of nothing so much as that retard who made a collage "proving" that Nyanners is a hypocrite and posts is on 4 chan several times a week thinking that people care.

>> No.9054724

>>9054672
Arcadum got away with stuff for years. So did many other IRL people. There is always a chance.

>> No.9054762

>>9054705
yep, that's exactly what i said. excellent reading comprehension.

>> No.9054774

>>9050810
i dont know about giving her an envelope this soon. but i can see the girls start to promote her and do collabs. maybe even throw her name around as another player when they do start finding an DM to run games again. [provided she feels up to it of course]

>> No.9054779

>>9054713
>is a force for positivity and love now.
is that why he mods actual shitters in his chat that go and harass and stalk other people while Zen enables them and does nothing about it for months?

>> No.9054804

>>9054585
Stop seething god damn

>> No.9054856

>>9054501
American education and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>> No.9054888

>>9054290
How do you prove something without evidence?

>> No.9054903

>>9054804
stop trying to salvage it, Arcadum.

>> No.9054906

>>9054779
i understand that you're angry that you were banned from Zen's discord, and that it still a very fresh wound for you, but it will be okay, and there are plenty of other discords you can join to distract yourself.

on a related note, Mods for popular streamers pretty much have to be assholes to their job well. That's why Nyanners mods are absolute tyrants, and Mouse's biggest mod Roxy is such a cunt--she has to be, because we love Mouse and need to protect her at all costs. I salute Roxy and her ilk.

>> No.9054916

>>9050868
ooooooooohhhh.......FUCK HIM!!!!

>> No.9054927

>>9054762
Yes you did
You said that recording calls is only bad for the people who do bad things and get caught
Meaning innocent people wouldnt get upset with being recorded without their permission
So i call you out saying that you therefore believe its totally fine to record everybody because who knows if theyll be good or not just in case

>> No.9054988

>>9054906
>i understand that you're angry that you were banned from Zen's discord
rent free, I'm not in any discord group.
>I understand
I understand that you have no clue what you're talking about but maybe you should educate yourself on the whole situation of Zen's mod stalking the other mod irl until Zen finally took action.

>> No.9055056

>>9051419
looks like the wagons are starting to get circled.

>> No.9055060

>>9051659
Crystal dragon loli.

>> No.9055069

>>9054988
again, child, the very nature of the job of a mod attracts assholes and absolute cunts. some of them go overboard and have to be reigned in or dismissed eventually. it's a necessary evil, and it's not that deep.

>> No.9055137

>>9055069
anon you have to be 18 to post on this board

>> No.9055197

>>9055069
>job of a mod
>job
ogey
>guy harasses and stalks the other guy
>no big deal
ogey

>> No.9055343

>>9055197
Huh, what the heck does ogey mean?

>> No.9055357

this guy is the biggest neckbeard nothin personel kid, how anyone is defending him is beyond me https://streamable.com/6o6uza

>> No.9055366

>>9055197
no, that one of innumerable Vtuber mods happened to be psychotic is not, in and of itself, remarkable in the least, and if Zen is no longer condoning the actions of this psycho, it does not change my positive opinion of gecko, who does his best to keep things comfy for the largest amount of people, but unfortunately cannot experience a psycho-free experience for everyone.

That must be hard to grasp.

Part of it not being a real "job," as you seem to be fixated upon, is that it that the application doesn't actually come with a full battery of psychological testing in order to qualify.

>> No.9055410

>>9055343
it's okay with a cute Japanese accent

>> No.9055444

>>9055357
Not defending him persay
More so saying most of the girls involved shoukd burn in the same funeral pyre

>> No.9055445

>>9055137
your dad is right next to me jerking me off while I type, which counts as adult supervision, so it's allowed. i checked the TOS.

>> No.9055524

>>9055444
>most of the girls involved shoukd burn in the same funeral pyre
and yet they will not. that must be very upsetting for you.

>> No.9055549

>>9055524
Somewhat yes
Why the fuck else would i be shitposting my complaints here?

>> No.9055592

>>9055410
You're Japanese?

>> No.9055642

>>9055524
Oh, trust me, they will. It's just that in their case it'll be a slow burn. Nobody likes to work with a drama whore. See: the real life consequences of the #MeToo movement
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2019/09/05/the-latest-consequence-of-metoo-not-hiring-women/

>> No.9055643

>>9055592
no, i am a cultural appropriator

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>>9055592
Yes

>> No.9055664

>>9055643
4channel really is as villainous as they say

>> No.9055714

>>9055056
German-sama here. Why does this proverb exist in this form? I got "Der Kreis schließt sich" (The circle closes now) where come the wagons in?

>> No.9055962

>>9055714
it's a term from the american old west. At night, during migrations from the west coast, they would park the wagons in a circle in order to form a makeshift defensive position. Circling the wagons means setting up a defense.

>> No.9055992

>>9055962
*from the east coast

>> No.9056091

Hopefully none of our guys are any of the "big 3" he was cheating with. I doubt it, but still.

>> No.9056179

god i wish you people would fuck off to /r/livestreamfails already

>> No.9056228

>>9056179
Too bad bitch, the apology stream will cause an even more delicious shitstorm

>> No.9056565
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nyanners, vei and mousey are very cute and I like watching them have fun!

>>9053111
probably how she heard the word from others around her and might've never seen it written [properly]. There are quite a few people like that; usually mistakes like that get ironed out when amongst peers.

>> No.9056731

>>9056565
I like that you say this while posting a picture of Vei, the perfect textbook example of pronouncing things in a fucked up way because you've probably never heard anyone say it out loud before.

>> No.9056762

>>9056565
>vei
I MISS MY LITTLE RAISIN SO FUCKING MUCH.
i had an extremely embarrassing IRL conversation the other day about how i gladly jump in front of a bus* for Vei, because her life is worth like 10,000 (or however many views shes gets) of my own.
i am a genuine stan and a faggot.
* and no, I'm NOT gonna go ahead and jump in front of a bus anyway, thank you very much, because then i would be unable to watch Vei's streams

>> No.9057041

>>9039981
Damn I may have been onto something with this assumption. Didn't expect it to be Siv though. Watching her vod and it's nice seeing a lot of the girl's emotes in the chat.

>> No.9057244

>>9053111
Well she did live with the guy who can’t pronounce crimson

>> No.9057382

>>9056179
More like lolcow and /cgl/. This thread has at least been a good exercise in training my anon's eye.

>> No.9057427

>>9057382
It's been pretty amazing to read through after it all happened. The instant absurd links some people make just to blame everyone but Arc is silly lol.

>> No.9057595

>>9057427
Well, yeah, it's totally her fault for not sucking his dick enough or letting him play around, how evil of her to limit him from sewing his wild oats wide and far. And how mean that she didn't but every video game he wanted.
And sarcasm incidentally because, uh, you can't tell around here sometimes.

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This is the first acknowledgment of anything I've seen from Haruka. Haven't looked at her Discord but no other faved tweets since returning from her break and nothing tweeted herself aside from the heavy rain stream announcement.

>> No.9057845

>>9057595
>And how mean that she didn't but every video game he wanted.
that part of the VOD made my skincrawl. I didn't have sympathy for Arcadum exactly, but I felt such.. pity and revulsion.

Imaging having to ask your girlfriend for an allowance to play video games.

>> No.9057869

>>9057427
anon, it's obvious what he did wrong, what's more interesting is the
>victims
who were complicit in helping a man coom for clout
nomatter how bad someone is for weaving lies, and manipulating, it takes a special kind of someone to hop on someone's dick for 10 gift subs

>> No.9057978

>>9057845
I'm watching the vod now and she says he was unemployed at the time so it was all coming out of her pocket. Makes perfect sense to me.

>> No.9058043

>>9057869
>nomatter how bad someone is for weaving lies, and manipulating, it takes a special kind of someone to hop on someone's dick
this is so fucking dis-ingenerous, as Sivelle would say.
You think our girl Momo cared about the fucking "clout" that Acradum brought her? She's an amazing streamer and has her own following.
That purehearted green cat genuinely liked him and genuinely thought Arc was her friend and wanted to be there for him, misguided as that may have been.
You're just gross.

>> No.9058094

>>9058043
anon I'm sorry your oshi is an awful human being just like everyone else
people aren't perfect, don't put them on pedastals, especially chuubas

>> No.9058116

>>9057978
my point was not that i can't comprehend the situation but that the thought of ever being in that situation makes me feel profoundly icky and makes me pity him, horrible as he is.

>> No.9058149

>>9058094
Many people aren't awful though. Maybe it's just your area.

>> No.9058181

>>9058043
>That purehearted green cat
Please be trolling. Please

>> No.9058201

>>9057595
The root of this shit storm was when she didn't let him go to blizzcon. She didn't realize she angered a true soldier. Now that the 10 cursed accusers finished the ritual the whole world is going to suffer arcadum's wrath. She's doomed us all.

>> No.9058203

>>9058094
>is an awful human being just like everyone else
>just like everyone else
you've been here too long

>> No.9058206

>>9058149
everyone is awful to a degree, you just aren't usually privy to see it outside of these drama meltdowns

>> No.9058243

>>9058094
i don't know who fucking hurt you, but some people are not awful, and Momo is not by oshi by a long shot (i don't even watch her that much). she would be the first to tell you she's not perfect and is profoundly fucked up. but greed is not among her many faults, and to say that her association with Arc is in any way comparable to his creepiness and abuse is just reflexive and stupid inceldom.
You are profoundly ignorant of the topic of this board (Vtubers) if you think that Momo, of all people, is a clout chaser. Momo offers clout to others, she doesn't chase it.

>> No.9058266

>>9058181
You would be surprised. Here and on /pmg/ there's a wealth of anons that genuinely believe their chuubas are God-sent angels.

>> No.9058277

>>9058206
https://vocaroo.com/1luUeySA1T66

>> No.9058318

>>9058277
lol

Anyway new thread
>>9058284
>>9058284
>>9058284

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>>9058277
vei, was it really necessary to record a voice clip just to tell him to fuck off?

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