/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>90183543
>graduation is completely meaningless
Graduation is a relic of IRL idols and has no place in the 2d world were they could just play the character periodically. I see no reason why the have to completely give up the character when they want a different job, hopefully with Ames graduation the status quo on that could change.

didn't read lol

Wrong thread nigger

>>90183867
retard making clickbait "thumbnails" on 4chan, thats some next level mental illness

>>90183867
Talents need to unionise to get better treatment.

>>90183867
tl;dr

>>90184306
the other thread had Randon as the thumbnail and I think it confused the conversation a bit

>>90183867
So managers are essentially fucking worthless then

>>90183867
Middle managers is also why Coco left. People go on and on about the PRC nationalist trolls, but at the end of the day, the only reason she publicly gave was difficulty doing things she wanted to try because of heavy process and manager vetos.

that plus jp corpo autism kinda make sense. You either have good communication with manesan or you are fucked

>>90183867
stupid faggot. bet it's the retarded orc himself making these threads to promote his gay video

>Believing a word of what this retard has to say

>>90185044
If you don't believe a homo you should at least believe Aqua leaving to do the exact same thing she was already doing. You should believe that Full Color among other songs still aren't fucking out

>>90185135
>Aqua out of nowhere
Go enjoy your orc failure streams, sis

>>90183867
>>Ex-Hololive Member
Where? Did you link the wrong video by mistake?

>>90183867
>Confused retard OP uses an image of someone who is still making money for/getting money from Hololive

>>90185044
I mean he'd know more than most. You don't think Kronii or Mori or Ame ever complained to him on the side?

>>90183867
>Remade the thread once the other one got bumped off
kys dramafag

>>90185858
that's the point, she's out and doing her own thing, but didn't have to give up her character

>>90185918
I wanted to finish my reply
>>90183973

>>90185135
NTA but Aqua is a drooling retard which is why other talent basically call her stupid and immature that she is out of touch with reality, other talent also had their issue with rejected projects etc but instead of acting like a spoiled brat they would try to communicate further to get a pass and I would rather trust the talents that have real world experiences, the talent that have real jobs before sing praises on how much better the company they work at right now than their previous job

>>90185044
i mean, it's obvious even without him saying it? or are you trying to argue that hololive isn't averse to risk?

>>90186357
always fun to watch how quickly and severely tribeniggers turn on them the INSTANT they make the "wrong" decision.

something something homos

>>90184342
/thread

>>90183973
that's why you and all other small corps can never achieve hololive success. hololive sells a story experience. a story needs an ending. without one, it becomes a soulless milking cow that everyone slowly grows bored of or hates. the graduation is not an accident or misfortune, it's part of the whole hololive experience, we know it will end, which makes every moment seem more precious. you wouldn't understand it as long as you think hololive is just streamer using avatar. they are what they've always said: "a character". and a character need a story for them to shine

>>90183867
>it's not my fault, it's management's fault
like clockwork.

>>90186878
>"a character". and a character need a story for them to shine
They need a story, but they should be able to decide how long it goes, ending it with graduation, especially if they have more things to do, is dumb.

>>90187025
>but they should be able to decide how long it goes
yes graduation is talent's decision. are you confuse something? don't bring 2 fag who get fired but have graduate status, they destroy starEN by doing so.

>>90186878
you know graduations are a thing for all corpos right

>>90187282
but the way they handle it, the way it being treat is different. are you small corp enjoyer or hololive watcher?

>>90187174
They weren't fired and they count in this.
In fact, they had unreleased projects, so if they were treated like Ame, that stuff could have come out and the fans could have enjoyed it.

>>90186936
>management bootlicking
like clockwork.

>>90187400
but that stuff didn't come out so it's more proof they were fired.

Cover could literally sacrifice a holostars to the devil and I wouldn't mind

>>90187370
use english if you aren't going to make websites in your own language.

>>90149513
>>90149513
mom I posted it again !

>>90187415
>bootlicking

>>90187706
reddit meme

>>90187688
>>90187706
>>90187724
go home

>>90187759
it's literally a reddit meme
i don't know how much more blatant they could be

>>90187400
>They weren't fired
dyrb

>>90187724
That meme existed long before you or reddit were even conceived, zoomerchama

>>90186608
>tribenigger
I always love to see how retards like you can't comprehend something simple and just spewing buzzword like a retard, by your own logic the other talents are tribenigger because they disagree with Aqua. Ironic

Not hololive

>>90187936
Even though he's still really pissed over what happened, Lando has said multiple times that the graduation was mutually agreed on

>>90187415
>can only think of sucking management
Whore mindset.

>>90186357
>why other talent basically call her stupid and immature that she is out of touch with reality
Literally never happened
>the talent that have real jobs before
Like Aqua?

>>90188089
as in either you walk out willingly or we kick you out

>>90188089
Deciding not to dispute your employer's decision to fire you doesn't mean it was something both parties wanted.

>>90185891
>I mean he'd know more than most. You don't think Kronii or Mori or Ame ever complained to him on the side?
Unicorns don't want to consider the reality that Holostars know more about the situation at Hololive more than any of the fans. They work for Cover so they know about the contract rules, the strict NDA, and the many issues of dealing with Japanese management. Altare has described how little management cares for the EN branch and that has definitely been an issue for HoloEN.

>>90188422
probably more with Vesper, but both Altare and Axel act like they they had a choice

>>90188029
>if aqua leaving was reasonable for her then every holo would've left because they all have the exact same considerations in making such decisions
i thought i had gotten jaded by how fucking retarded anons at this hour can be but i guess it's nice to know there are still surprises left in this world.

>>90188454
Again, that might be true for Vesper, but both Altare and Axel act like they had a choice

>>90188548
Next you'll be telling me that when people leave movies or studios by "mutual agreement" it's totally because they wanted to spend more time with their family or working on passion projects.

>>90183867
>corpo is stopping them from doing anything creative
>go indie
>do nothing creative
If I had a dime for every time it happened, I'd have at least 4 dimes.

>>90183867
>management turns down 99% of your ideas
>quits
>your content is exactly the same after you left
yeah that's bullshit.

>>90188666
just saying what happened, plus we don't know exactly what made them leave still.

>>90184012
SPBP

>>90188317
>Literally never happened
Pretending or not, you're still retarded
>Like Aqua?
NND streamer isn't real job
You can take your mask off now, you're just a spineless faggot posing as the good guy siding with the talents while at the same time ignoring that said talents when they praise the company, it's too ironic that you called people tribenigger

>>90189236
Glad to see you keep on spouting bs, catalognigger.
Also, I was not talking about her being a streamer, she had several "real jobs" before, retard.

>>90189335
It's hard to speak with a retard that struggling to comprehend context, she is mostly NND streamer and the fact she quit jobs then end up being mostly streamer is exactly how you know that she is out of touch, like I said before the talent that have real life experiences know better that they disagree with Aqua but you can keep ignoring that because it doesn't suit your narrative and keep spouting buzzword if that makes you feel better.

>>90189863
Very nice English, not that I would have expected any better from a clueless, lying piece of shit like you.

>working for a company is stressful
What a shocking revelation!!!

>>90190012
>clueless, lying piece of shit
Said the clueless lying piece of shit trying to lie about other talent when there is even a clip about it for your filthy secondary-ass

>>90187880
bootlicking is the real "reddit meme",zoomer.

>>90188682
The funniest thing is that it always happens.

>>90184704
She said a bit more, and said those reasons were only 50% but I don't know what was members only and what not. (Tbh it wasn't too spicy)
In the end graduation from such a gig is more complex than just "I hate this one thing!", but it's a accumulation of multiple reasons outweighing the benefits.

>Ex-Hololive
>not Hololive
Every time

>>90191370
Did she ever say anything about a veto towards another member (or maybe all members, I only know from one member's pov)?
It's intentionally a very vague question but if you get what I'm saying a yes or no answer would suffice.

Management exists to keep you from yabbing.
Do you want to end up like NijiEN?

>>90183867
>manager lets them do something
>gets fired if it backfires
>manager forces them to not stream
>gets fired because company is losing money

>>90194219
>Implying there are no yabs in Hololive

>>90183867
>source: the sexpest menhera grifter who got fired
good thing i didnt even bother reading