/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Twitch sites
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

HEY SOUL SISTER

Mooom activity

>>90168876
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>103,318: Noel (Hololive)
>97,254: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>84,793: Marine (Hololive)
>51,536: Nene (Hololive)
>51,517: Miko (Hololive)
>38,527: Ponpoko (Indie)
>38,469: Ponpoko (Indie)
>34,127: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>31,975: Miko (Hololive)
>31,587: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,232: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,776: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>20,167: Lui (Hololive)
>20,159: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,461: Mio (Hololive)
>18,412: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,204: Iroas (Nijisanji)
>16,042: Moka (VSPO)
>15,921: Hinano (VSPO)
>15,363: Rou (Nijisanji)
>15,300: Ange (Nijisanji)
>13,724: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,662: Vivi (Hololive)
>12,974: Noel (Hololive)
>12,675: Sho (Nijisanji)
>12,385: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,273: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,106: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>11,861: Bae (Hololive)
>11,828: Flare (Hololive)
>11,649: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>11,367: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>11,012: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,982: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,827: Bae (Hololive)
>10,251: Su (Hololive)

>>90168941

>>90168876
I miss her. If she doesn't show up tomorrow I'm ending it.

>>90168994
Chumbuds are really the toughest fanbase.

GRIM

>>90167950
>False says holo fans are attacking IM too
>a chatter mentions that in early 2024 a ton of Niji fans jumped ship to Hololive and that changed some of the vibe within the fandom
>False agrees that it's probably the nijifags who poisoned the well

>>90168992

>>90168982
NOVEMBER 2024 GOLD
>1) 86,316: Shellin (Nijisanji) 3D reveal [20]
>2) 55,816: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Yugioh Tournament DAY1 [29]
>3) 73,842: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Yugioh Tournament DAY2 [28]
>4) 88,768: Fubuki (Hololive) FBKINGDOM Fest. + 1st Sololive Announcement [32]
>5) 63,844: Kanade (Hololive) Liar's Bar w/ Noel, Marine, Subaru [22]
>6) 37,482: Sakuna (Indie) Zatsudan [16]
>7) 40,509: Miko (Hololive) The Strongest TOFU [19]
>8) 108,194: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiFes2025 committee [15]
>9) 190,351: Niko (Hololive) Debut stream [36]
>10) 83,892: FlowGlow (Hololive) 1st full gen collab [29]
>11) 41,265: Sakuna (Indie) Utawaku [32]
>12) 82,696: Nene (Hololive) Return Stream
>13) 99,667: Yashiro (Nijisanji) Dokuzuhonsha live
>14) 69,795: Suisei (Hololive) Sololive - free part
>15) 114,577: Lamy (Hololive) Birthday variety 3D
>16) 59,171: Marine (Hololive) Liar’s Bar w/Lamy, Korone, and Noel
>17) 121,875: Koyori (Hololive) HoloKoshien
>18) 86,093: Miko (Hololive) MikoRoom with Korone
>19) 65,475: Subaru (Hololive) Subaru-Mio-Miko US trip report
>20) 42,246: Miko (Hololive) Holocure
>21) 48,362: Matsuri (Hololive) Mario Party Jamboree w/Subaru, Pekora, Ayame
>22) 101,172: Subaru (Hololive) Chained Together tournament
>23) 60,601: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Splatoon tournament Day 1

> PER COMPANY
6x: Nijisanji
15x: Hololive
2x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
4x: Nijisanji
3x: Miko
2x: Sakuna, Subaru
1x: Shellin, Fubuki, Kanade, Niko, FlowGlow, Nene, Yashiro, Suisei, Lamy, Marine, Koyori, Matsuri

>>90168876
>picrel
Proof?

Yagoo's favourite

>>90169104
NOVEMBER 2024 SILVER
>1) 48,281: Matsuri (Hololive) 3D Live bday
>2) 41,365: Amayui Moka (VSPO) Debut
>3) 40,261: Miko (Hololive) Buckshot Roulette w/ Fubuki, Mio, Okayu
>4) 70,499: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Yugioh Tournament DAY3
>5) 46,037: Miko (Hololive) KusoDeka Bayashi
>6) 35,074: Okayu (Hololive) Chat with AI You Laugh You Lose
>7) 34,975: Subaru (Hololive) Holomem class seating chart
>8) 30,444: AZKi (Hololive) Hololive Koushien 2024 #7
>9) 183,452: Chihaya (Hololive) Debut stream
>10) 73,581: Miko (Hololive) Maripa w/ Fubuki, Korone, Kanata
>11) 40,003: AZKi (Hololive) Kololive Koushien 2024 #8
>12) 47,271: Lize (Nijisanji) Lize's Radio vs. The Strongest Combo Battle
>13) 35,432: Kanata (Hololive) HoloKoshien
>14) 45,736: Pekora (Hololive) Holocure
>15) 90,784: Nari Yang (Nijisanji) 3D debut
>16) 42,813: Koyori (Hololive) HoloKoshien
>17) 85,619: Nagao (Nijisanji) Splatoon tournament rules and draft
>18) 78,899: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) SF6
>19) 39,957: Iroha (Hololive) 1m endurance Karaoke
>20) 39,754: Miko (Hololive) Don’t Scream
>21) 48,349: Miko (Hololive) thumbnail making
>22) 44,454: Toya (Nijisanji) NijiSplatoon tournament warmup
>23) 59,519: Ponpoko (Indie)24 hours stream
>24) 97,254: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) NijiSplatoon tournament Day 2

> PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
1x: VSPO
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

> PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
2x: AZKi, Nijisanji
1x: Matsuri, Amayui Moka, Okayu, Subaru, Chihaya, Lize, Kanata, Pekora, Nari Yang, Koyori, Nagao, Kuzuha, Iroha, Toya

>>90169041
BASED BASED BASED TOTAL NIJI DEATH

>>90169153
>virus

>>90169041
>a chatter mentions that in early 2024 a ton of Niji fans jumped ship to Hololive and that changed some of the vibe within the fandom
I mean this is true isn't it?

>>90169041
Did he also include the fact Connor was the main reason Mori catched strays for years?

>>90169154
NOVEMBER 2024 BRONZE
>1) 45,513: Sakuna (Indie) Liar's Bar
>2) 35,139: Choya Hanabi (VSPO) Debut
>3) 35,383: AZKi (Hololive) Hololive Koushien 2024 #5
>4) 53,951: Moka (VSPO) SF6
>5) 41,522: Moka (VSPO) SF6
>6) 33,993: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) The k4sen FF14
>7) 34,871: Mana (Nijisanji) MECHATU-A collab
>8) 29,058: NeruMero (Indie) Genshin
>9) 181,200: Vivi (Hololive) Debut stream
>10) 54,102: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Birthday Stream
>11) 28,420: Niko (Hololive) Zatsudan
>12) 38,410: Pekora (Hololive) Don’t Scream
>13) 35,382: Marine (Hololive) Don’t Scream
>14) 42,763: Marine (Hololive) Holocure
>15) 80,898: AZKi (Hololive) 6th Anniversary 3D
>16) 35,810: Pekora (Hololive) Holocure
>17) 56,449: Pekora (Hololive) Holokoshien watchalong w/Marine
>18) 42,315: Chloe (Hololive) Marshmallow+announcement w/Holox
>19) 38,250: Pekora (Hololive) The Game Awards press conference
>20) 38,261: Okayu (Hololive) Mario Party Jamboree w/Niko, Vivi, Fubuki
>21) 29,989: Moka (VSPO) SF6
>22) 32,240: Suisei (Hololive) model 2.0 debut
>23) 49,259: Miko (Hololive) Soul Calibur 6
>24) 84,793: Marine (Hololive) Marine-Pekora-Noel Power Pros

> PER COMPANY
2x: Indie
4x: VSPO
16x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
3x: Moka
2x: Kuzuha, Marine
1x: Sakuna, Choya Hanabi, AZKi, Mana, NeruMero, Vivi, Niko, AZKi, Chloe, Okayu, Suisei, Miko

>>90169041
We didn't gatekeep enough

>>90168876
*YESTERDAY’S EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY*
>11/24 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)
4.049: Dokibird (Indie) | Announcement Stream
3.106: Mint (Indie) | Metal Gear: Ghost Babel
2.132: Pippa (Phase-Connect) | Mabinogi
2.023: Nene (kawaii) | Karaoke Stream
1.815: Meloco (Nijisanji) | Resident Evil 4 Remake
1.528: Luca (Nijisanji) | Mouthwashing
1.261: Ruze (Holostars) | Vermintide 2 w/ Axel, Bettel, Goldbullet, Hakka, Octavio, Rexford, Shinri
1.121: Phase Connect | Phase Weekly
1.100: Elira (Nijisanji) | Metaphor: Refantazio

>Hololive
No one is live

>>90169041
It's more likely that it's the fans of whoever that black fleshie is and normalfags

>>90169060

>friend
>he
YAB YAB YAB

Moona wants to see Moona costplayers in Singapore

>>90169153
>virus
Maybe if he stopped diddling kids, he'd have time to be productive.

>>90169198
It is but it's greatly over exaggerated, like "people" trying to claim Council poisoned the well years ago.

>>90169147
>favourite
Cringe.

>>90169281
I just have Chloe in the background

>>90169281
https://youtu.be/9dxJ5N_h4As
https://youtu.be/8d2nAFVOuSM
https://youtu.be/sMT2LsdAvmk

https://imgur.com/pERx5mc
340k views let's fucking go
Let's beat Sasaki's baby play

>>90169281
Moona is live

>>90169281
EN Gen 0 is live rn

>>90169202
He was starting to talk about that whole event but someone in his chat was complaining about him blaming Niji and it started annoying him so he basically stopped talking about/reacting to Connor's vid and went back to playing Raid cause he was getting mad.

>>90169438
Sasuga nijiniggers

chama yapping in eigo about her trip to Mt. Fuji

>>90169438
Shame.

>>90169278
>EN COPE GOLDS FOR NOVEMBER 2024
1) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.934 - HoloJustice's Haunted VRChat Investigation
2) Dokibird (Indie) - 4.920 - Goddess of Victory: Nikke
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 4.987 - Minecraft - Mococo PoV
4) Mint (Indie) - 4.520 - Webfishing
5) Pippa (globie) - 3.284 - Birthday Stream
6) Calli (Hololive) - 4.759 - Various Games
7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.805 - Silent Hill 2
8) Shiori (Hololive) - 4.140 - L4D2 Advent Collab
9) Raora (Hololive) - 4.483 - Just Chatting
10) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.590 - Diablo IV
11) Nerissa (Hololive) - 2.370 - "Pride and Prejudice (1995)" Watchalong
12) Gigi (Hololive) - 3.874 - Just Chatting
13) Raora (Hololive) - 4.310 - Sonic X Shadow Generations
14) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.939 - Diablo IV
15) Nerissa (Hololive) - 4.800 - Lethal Company Advent Collab
16) Luca (Nijisanji) - 4.871 - Super Mario 3D World w/ Ren, Shu, Sonny
17) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 4.580 - Fate/Stay Night Remastered
18) Goldbullet (Holostars) - 4.665 - Armis Anniversary Collab Stream
19) Kiara (Hololive) - 4.593 - Diablo IV
20) Raora (Hololive) - 4.829 - Mario Kart 8
21) Mint (Indie) – 4.390 - Liar's Bar
22) Raora (Hololive) – 4.931 – Mouthwashing
23) Shiori (Hololive) – 4.193 - Unarchived Karaoke Rebroadcast
24) Dokibird (Indie) – 4.049 - Announcement Stream

>NOVEMBER EN COPE GOLDS PER STREAMER
4x: Nerissa, Raora
3x: Kiara
2x: FuwaMoco, Mint, Shiori, Dokibird
1x: Pippa Pbswth, Calli, Gigi, Luca, Goldbullet

Reminder that we stand with mousey

Since we're slow anyways, I've been thinking, we should really have some terminology about shit beyond just
>The GRIM era
and "Post-GRIM."
We have Mythmania (Myth debut till the first Youtube Culls) and GRIM era (Early-Mid Fall 2022 until the middle of Spring 2023) but we should name other eras, too. Here's my pitch

BI WEEKLY "THIS FUCKING MUSICAL BETTER BE WORTH IT" POST

>>90169202
I guess you're right about same people being the type to shit on IM
same breed of schizos

>>90169501
unity chads we're winning

>>90169501
she's right, it's thanks to mousey we still have no graduates in holoEN

>>90169533
>Bi-weekly
Like twice a week or twice a month what are we talking about here

>>90169501
GRIM

>>90169533
Winter break is soon!
Surely Mumei will show up since she doesn't have to do uni stuff

Right??

Since we're slow anyway. I've been thinking this thread could use a bit of this.

>>90169501
>I'm ill
We got it

>>90169636
nay slow thread should be for cakes and hags
hebe and below is for high speed threads

>>90169533
It will be

>>90169636
That's nice and all, but consider this.

>>90169501
>i couldnt live
>jizz in the eye

>>90169501
is her bank account getting low again? her illness seems to flair up when that happens.

>>90169636
Go on king.

>>90169198
Kinda, but it should be specified that 99% of the Niji fans that jumped ship went to Holostars, not Hololive. They didn't cause a vibe shift within the Hololive fanbase, they just caused more homofans to attack the girls.

>>90169153
Are virus accounts incapable of making actual content like the rest of the fanbase?

>>90169624
This was her output last December, for comparison

>>90169708
Cute, but have you considered this?

>>90169636
you may proceed

>>90169750
They're the Stars of the fanbase. They even have a way to easily identify and separate them from the actual fanbase.

>>90169402
>340k
Jesas

>>90169768
As >>90169680 said, it's sadly not the time for lolis yet.

>>90169750
They're parasites. they don't make anything related to Hololive. They just use the names for clout.

>>90169522
But the catalog told me that EN is dying now. So the second Golden Age only goes until Ame's gradufilliation, and now we're the Spanish Inquisition of Hololive English.

>>90169522
>advent renaissance

>>90169882
>>90169680
My supply of girls above A-cup is limited.

The fuck is Moona singing?

Now that it's been over a year and a half since the allegations, and no changes or any proof has come forward to make those claims seem legitimate, I'm gonna go ahead and say it:
That guy who was always screaming that Mumei's sub count was artificially inflated by bots was incorrect.

>>90169522
>Spring 2023
I guess that's when the shift became very apparent, but I believe the management overhaul happened around the end of 2022/start of 2023.
Took a while for things to get rollign after that but some anons were noticing things seemed different all the way back in Jan/Feb 2023

streams doko?

Mori is based

>>90170146
That's when things STARTED, for sure, but it didn't translate to much until, I'd say around the time of Connect the World's announcement, which was what? April 2023? Around Easter, if I remember.

>Holostars deserve better

Raki 3D kinda cute

Everytime I look outside the walled garden something is always on fire.

Go-getters 5 million
https://youtu.be/j7RbmhKeaZs

>>90169501
queen stands with queen

Holy...

IRyS is noticeably more olive-skinned than everyone else in HoloEN.
My verdict on this: More HoloEN girls should have skin like hers. They would look better.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=j7RbmhKeaZs
5M DOOOOOOOOOORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>90170252
Sound about right, changes at that high level of management takes months to produce results.

What are we eating tonight, /#/s?
>Bacon cheeseburger.
>Side of coleslaw.
>Vanilla Coke.

>>90170327
That the peak for today?

>>90170339
Source?

>>90170405
drop the coke and it sounds pretty good

>>90170405
I just had some Hamburger Helper. Shit's not bad.

>>90170128
Yeah that was always cope. If you could bot subs that easily we'd have seen a lot of it, and a lot more vtubers at 1M.
When Ririka messed around with the twitter bots and asked them to sub to her youtube channel she gained a bunch of subs but then we saw her get hit with some sizable culls a bit later.

The most simple explanation for Mumei's sub growth suddenly spiking is her just getting lucky with the youtube algo.
Something she did before going on break looked good to the algo and it just pushed her channel to more people

>>90170339
Big fat tail

>>90170405
i grilled borgers

>>90170360
Go-Getters is probably the best part of that whole project, isn't it

>>90170353
My opinions on the skin colors of all popular vtubers would get me banned for a few hours.
I was a huge Sana fan, to say the least.

Since we are dead might aswell talk about the minor numberfag leagues, its always nice to see pillow getting 1Ks form time to time. probably my favorite ASMRtist

>>90169147
>random sonic concert could afford kino confetti
>Breaking Dimensions could not afford kino confetti

>>90170424
https://x.com/superfann3/status/1860540260918394951

Biboo status?

>>90170252
Yeah around CTW time. There was all the usual shitposting around those times and announcements, but at that point most here that had been paying a lot of attention were pretty convinced EN was heading in the direction it did.

>>90170555
moving to JP

>>90170405
>hamburger
>>90170470
>hamburger
>>90170501
>hamburger
Truly a nation of taste

>>90170555
bought airpods, lost them.

>>90170599
proof?

>>90170522
She's been doing good in her lane, honestly. Happy for the girl. Knows what she's going for, does it, has fun with her community and doesn't fall for the usual traps of the ASMR "gfe" style Vtuber.
Hope she can keep that up. And also I want to have sex with her mother

https://www.youtube.com/live/sMT2LsdAvmk?si=islqwmHUIvJDWYe1

chamma is live, babbling

>>90170405
beef tendon stew
gochugaru noodles
calamansi sparkling water

>>90170655
I recall she said as much on her last holocure stream. Unless I misunderstood or got confused and this is just a family/vacation break

>>90170604
I fucking hate hamburger and pizza. How many days in a row can you eat fucking boneless wings and taquitos? All of my fat friends only want to eat trash every day.

>>90170809
This is the quick break, shes planning to move before the year ends.

>Great streams
>Never streams
Why the fuck is this correlation so high

>>90170674
The thing with GFE content is that it only works if the streamer is equally as mentally ill as the audience, if the streamer can ride the waves of schizos on her chat you can pretty much secure yourself a loyal fanbase and a pretty decent cash flow.

>>90170851
oh my bad then, thanks for the correction

>>90170604
I also enjoy fried chicken

>>90169522
>Second Golden Era?
I mean Myth still dominates all of the things for EN.
Biggest EN Event - Myth
Biggest/Most sponsor - Myth
Concert - Myth
Highest CCV - Myth
I mean you probably can attribute most to Gura but Myth did a lot this year.

So I would say "End of an Era" is fitting since we don't have anything big outside of Myth maybe more streams but that's about it.
Comparing it to Golden era where subs are skyrocketing and Music videos views are easy to get the only thing this era got is more streams.

I saw a catalog bait thread about the orc and there is one thing that the dude said that stood out to me.
>If a talent does really, really well, they don't get extra money (They only get a set salary). However, if the talent that they're managing screws up, or does something risky, then the manager is going to get in big trouble. They're going to get chewed out at the next meeting, or they might get reassigned, or fired or something like that.
That actually did seem interesting to me, because I started wondering about whether or not this is the best way for a manager to be compensated or not.
Because on one hand, the first thought I had when I read this was
>"Oh, maybe Cover would benefit if their managers got some kind of bonus for a talent having a successful year? Then they would start being more proactive about approving shit and getting things done"
but on the other hand, the thought I had AFTER that was
>"Shit, would that be good? Then you'd have to quantify who's more successful and who isn't, which could become a flawed incentive structure that just makes managers into the bad kind of numberfag, real numberniggers and shit, like Nene's old manager"
That's something I wanna ask because it seems like a valid question. How would you set up an incentive structure for the managerial level of Cover that would make them better for the girls they work for, without turning them into numbers-obsessed slave drivers? Or in other words, how would you set up a system where managers are "invested in their talent's success" while still keeping the talent in the driver's seat?

>>90170522
She seems like a smart girl so far. Her and Kanna strike me as the more smarter of the ASMR girls, the others I can easily see end up having a major woman moment if the wrong chatter pisses them off (pillow already had to deal with that one schizo who gets mad when she collabs).

>>90170239
https://www.youtube.com/live/9dxJ5N_h4As

>>90170535
It's an environmental hazard

>>90170548
the perfect pillow
>>90170604
we ain't called burgers for nothing

>>90170926
I disagree with some of this. Like, what the fuck does
>Concert - Myth
mean when the concerts are for everyone. Unless you wanna talk about Mori's sololives, but that's UMG more than anything.
But the fact is, this year has been
>The most sponsors for HoloEN
>the most events for HoloEN
>the most content for HoloEN
>the highest fan activity in HoloEN's community since MythMania
There are many, MANY metrics where they are doing gangbusters now compared to past years. And it isn't just Myth, although Myth still holds the driver's seat for things like expensive merch collabs and brand deals.

Morp tomorrow

>>90170926
>maybe more streams but that's about it
But that's literally the fucking point unless you're fine with the Kizuna Ai treatment. If holoEN was just Myth for 4 years none of that shit would be relevant because the branch would've likely died 2 years ago.

>>90170926
>>90171136
Holo EN is simply in the Sliver age it does not measure up to the golden age of peak myth but EN is at is strongest it's been since golden age only way it could get better if gura comes back.

>>90169522
>Second Golden Age
Is that a Destiny 2 reference

>>90170947
just hire better managers
it's not like they don't know what type of work they'll be doing
cover has semi hands off approach to individual branding so implementing some kind of incentive structure for managers will eb counter productive

>>90170947
The only realistic way to implement performance based compensation due to talent performance for managers without it devolving into some managers beating the horse until it dies (quits). Its having someone overseeing the manager - talent communications but by then you start introducing longer chains of reports and overhead.

A better way would be giving managers non monetary incentives based on amount of projects/events/merch/etc that might not have been released without the manager's help, you still get the issue of having to keep an eye on the managers so they don't forge such proof.

I'm sure there must be a realistic KPI they can use to reward managers who outperform on their duties like henma

>>90171264
does she actually like ds2?

>>90171337
I feel like the era right after Advent debuted but before Armis was a mini golden age, like the equivalent of Mythmania for newfriends

>>90171337
I just hope that the day were someone surpasses Gura comes so that she finally doesn't have to carry the "biggest EN" cross

>>90171445
no, but she doesn't want to yield to it
also shd saw she made some fans of ds2 happy and that also motivates her

>still seething

>>90171533
I have high hopes that it'll click and she'll finally tack onto the idea of
>this game is designed like a Kaizo and if you treat it like one it becomes infinitely more fun

sorry bro i aint watching moona

What's the yab?

>>90171513
Thats never gonna happend again dude, you guys gotta realize that guras popularity boom was a one of a kind, im sure there will be popular vtubers in the future but wishing for another gura is just dumb

>>90171576
>still kissable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AOXEOO96fM
Numbers?

>>90171614
why

>>90171686
Holy shit I'm actually going to watch a full mori stream

>>90171653
He married someone and took their name, it's Hozuki now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QdO_kOj1dU

we thinking over or under 300 ccv (100 ccv per talent) for this karaoke stream?

>>90169522
>Mythmania
Can't really talk about without invoking Susan or YouTube. COVID played its part but YouTube was much, much less adversarial to EN in late 2020 than the end of 2020 and onwards.
>Age of Omega
This was the last time JP and EN mingled frequently as branches. It's easy to look back on this time as being the rise of Omega but EN was actually doing very well in 2021 until CCVID hit in its last week.
>Advent Era
Good summary. That post by Jap hit the nail on the head. He knew we wanted CGDCT and he pivoted the direction of the branch towards it instead of away.
>Dawn of Justice
You say that now is the highest point of fan interest since Mythmania, but Justice and even Advent had nowhere near the hype that Council did. This time period is more of a return to the 2021 EN than to 2020. You really can't compare anything to Mythmania.

I'm not convinced Age of Omega/Dawn of Justice need names and that might be why I take exception to their names. 2020, 2022, and 2023 were turning points in Hololive as a whole, and while 2021 and 2024 are great times they are not exactly monumental years.

>>90171686
>Undertale Yellow
>a fan game about Undertale
>Allowed to be played by Cover
Huh? What? Perms autism got overcame for this? How the fuck?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gyiY1hrHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gyiY1hrHM

the next stream for today

>>90171691
males

>>90170947
Giving managers bonuses based on talent performance will lead to managers forcing the girls to do things they don't want to because their salary depends on it.
Imagine if streaming was a KPI and your talent is Mumei. You'd be heavily incentivized to harass her into streaming or keep telling her to drop out of college because your paycheck relies on it.

There are too many damn member streams

>>90171686
What the freaking heck is undertale yellow

>>90171790
Members-only content
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>>90171657
>>90171513
It will happen eventually PewDiePie was always number one untill Mr Beast came along someone will do the same for gura.

>>90170947
the answer is probably somewhere in the middle, measuring success just leads to what you mentioned, but it's also not idea to just let them ride it out like Nerissa/Fauna's manager who does absolutely nothing
It's a little bit more work for the girls, but everyone who has a manager should be asked to give a performance review every now and then, at the end of the day it's best to leave whether or not they're doing a good job to those that stand to benefit from said job. Semi anonymous bi anual reviews for all managers sound doable, it gives them enough time to see a complete project through, but not enough that if someone is a real screwup that they can tank a girls momentum
Maybe there could also be a double reporting system, whenever a girl wants to invest or start a project of certain scale or budget, they do the usual of talking about it to their manager, but also report to a third party that makes sure to supervise that managment to make sure they're actually doing their part towards getting it done, so these things aren't just lost to the air between Holos and their upper managment
Worst case scenario, they should allow the holos to hire their own side manager or assistants that are allowed to work withing the Cover infrastructure, so the holos can actually work with someone that actually cares about them, instead of these apathetic useless managers

>>90171786
it's the rare case of the original creator of the base game is on cover's speed dial

>>90171786
maybe things under Toby Fox are easier to get perms for since he has done songs for holo, still getting a fangame perms is interesting

>>90171136
Sponsors are getting carried by Myth just look at the skateboard thing the top are mostly Myth not to mention lots of the best colalbs are with Myth/Gura.
We got more 3D last year since 3d showcase for Myth/Promise and we got 3D summer.
Again we got more streams and collabs this year mainly because more people which is great but I wouldn't attribute those to being Golden Era thing since aside from CCV which didn't really incline much most of the things are still being carried by Myth.
Well fan activity is mainly because no Covid etc it's like saying NijiEN did great before because they got all the Fan activity "Cons" in their prime. And you can't really compare it since MythMania you got 90% of content creators etc trying to do shit for Myth like Game/Fanart etc.
Hell Gura still got more fanarts than most active EN's right now.
The best thing this era got is total death for NijiEN.

>>90169041

Today, I'll remind them

>>90171864
I think it's Undertale but Pikachu is your starter.

>>90171786
Toby Fox is a big Marine fan isn't he?

>>90171786
I guess yellow is a fangame kinda like how Team fortress was a quake mod at first, its a mod that suddenly got really big so its kinda its own thing nowish

>>90171944
hololive needs to get a bit more to the right, but with lesbians instead of males

>>90171868
If it's not Marine in by 5 years then it's going to be some other JP vtuber that gains insane popularity overnight, or no one at all

>>90171767
2021 was when we had catshark 194k tho
also peak bonebros

>>90171864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr4OTPFtLrA
Fan game for Undertale.
I don't know much but if I were to guess, it's about the Yellow heart from the game that had a revolver as their support item in the end of Undertale.

>>90171856
Usual end of month shit as they realize they forgot to do some

>>90172042
Is this the game where Toby Fox's label copyright struck them and then he had to personally give them perms cause his label fucked up?

>>90172129
Yes.

Does Haachama not have membership enabled?

>>90170947
>How would you set up an incentive structure
You don't. You need a filter that weeds out people who don't understand what their job is as a manager. The only possible system would be managers getting periodical raises the longer they're assigned to the same talent, and there being no checks preventing a talent from "firing" their manager in order for this system to incentivise commitment and building a good relationship between the talent and the manager. If a talent is too stupid to hold on to a good manager that's on them, but the manager shouldn't have any power over who they are assigned to.

>>90172024
That's why I said EN was doing very well in 2021, more notable mentions are Bunkeronii and Minecraft in general

Why does no one talk about Golden Glow girls?

>>90172295
Who

>>90172295
what

>>90172295
whomstve?

>>90171657
An active Gura who regularly streams in 2024 wouldn't even crack first army, FBK was the biggest holo and then came Aqua and then came Korone, and then came Pekora, and then came Marine, and now it's Miko.
Popularity comes and goes, it's never stagnant, it's never going to be the same one at the top, I'm not asking for someone to come and get better numbers than Mythmania numbers because the circumstance that brought said numbers will never happen again, but current Gura, 2024 Gura. it's doable.

Is biboo stealth suspended for 5 days

>>90172022
Only if you're talking about subs, which are incredibly worthless
When it comes to actual popularity, Gura has been outdone by every first army

>>90172024
>also peak bonebros
The day that mori and gura mend their differences is the day that EN will return to it's golden era

>>90172295
Be the change you want in the world

>>90170947
Punishing them for fuckups or drama is already correct. The manager should become a facilitator for the talents. Tying them with the talent's success is gonna be goddamn messy. With this statement though, it's pretty clear that Omega was sacked because of Kronii's drama and management's response.

>>90172129
That whole situation was so weird, dude, the label's CEO was on Twitter saying shit like
>"I bet you (the creator of Undertale Yellow) TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS that you do NOT have Toby Fox' permission to do this shit"
>(Toby Fox posts that he gave Undertale Yellow permission to do all that shit)
And then he just didn't admit that it counted until fucking Toby Fox went and said
>"Yeah okay I'm gonna give the guy a ten thousand dollar donation to any charity he wants"
Never seen a case of an agent running so far outside the bounds of what their client wanted from them before

>>90172295
Anon, Betty White passed away a while ago

>>90172376
What delusion makes you think Gura wouldn't be first army?

>>90169153
Killing kids in Gaza take too much time

>>90172280
I don't think you can equal 2021 to 2024, not only back then we had the highest peak but also the most cohesion EN ever had
It feels like a new peak only because we're finally out of that fucking hell hole but we aren't at 2021 levels yet

>>90168876
Fauners my beloved, i miss you

Which HoloEN most likely voted for Kamala?

>>90172544 (me)
Forgot the pic

>>90172606
Kaela

>>90169281
Im watching chloe

>>90171944
Surprised that Hololive struggles so much with women when Idols have always been a relative safe sell for girls, at the height of the popularity AKB, LoveLive, Im@s, all had very healthy and present female fanbases, peak Us had an almost 50/50 male female split only leaning slightly in the male favor, and even Uma has a pretty solid feamle fanbase, beyond me what keeps Hololive so popular only among males, because girls only groups have thrived with women
maybe they should try to move away from games as their main crutch, that and do girls only concerts those seem really fun, Baby Metal did one not that long ago, they shouldn't have a hard time connecting with girls if they actually reach out to them, it's girl to girl talk, they just need to be pretty, strong and aspirational which they already are, that's what girls like in idols

>>90169153
I want to see the zogllie virus and the suisei one fight

ID chad you really can't stop winning

>>90171686
Wasn't this game a bootleg or something?

>>90171864
https://files.catbox.moe/z1ogrg.png
https://files.catbox.moe/i8xvep.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2yiy5v.png

>>90171582
lmao no amount of clicking can save ds2 from being a shit fucking souls game

>>90172510
Her numbers are on the same level as Koyori-Azki-Kanata-Botan, and if anything her celling is far lower considering that everyone on that list has a couple of 100k lives under their belt. Gura's numbers for the past 2 years can't even match Subaru who depends on who you ask is she's first army or not

>>90171722
huh? what?

Is Vtubing as a whole reclining slowly? Is it saturation or something else?

>>90172575
I'm gonna get a bit nit-picky with you on this because I think you're mixing up the idea of
>new peaks
and
>equivalent peaks
This can be a "second golden age" without being on the same scale as the original "golden age." It's maybe not hitting the same high watermark, but it's still on the upbound swing.
Like how in Destiny 2, the Second Golden Age comes about after the Collapse, even though it's still just in the Last City it's still considered a Second Golden Age if only because the quality of life and relative security of the average person is extremely high up until the Black Fleet returns

>>90172659
it's cause 80% of Holo activity is gaming streams, and not shit like Bejeweled or other casual time sinks, which still has just minor female representation

>>90172822
IT WAS THE FUCKING DESTINY SCHIZO HOLY FUCK KYS

>>90172808
Not really

>>90169522
>Fan interest is at the highest it's been since Mythmania days
No way someone actually wrote that with a straight face

>>90172822
Based Destinyfag

>>90172716
Sorry our rival is ENsharts

>>90172829
They should really make an effort to move away from games, at this point anything that's not FOTM is a debuff over a simple zatsu or variety stream

mori's fat tits are more erotic than her big butt

>>90172808
outside of hololive? yes

>>90172808
vtubing no, vt japanese companies in the west yes.

>>90172931
we need a new technological breakthrough to do IRL streams without doxxing

>>90172441
notGura has longstanding beefs with a lot of Mori's real friends (TT, IM, Monarch, jesus) .

>all these anons actually watching moona
don't even think of letting me catch you complaining when she raids into a homo later

>>90172377
No. She and everyone else who didn't stream today will graduate wednesday. Source: /vt/

this is the ultimate chuuba design according to Koyori's research. i wonder why Cover isn't debuting something like this?

>>90172962
Give this man a reddit gold

I think gura should return and embrace her role as a queen of (EN) vtubing

>>90168876
NOVEMBER 2024 HIGHLANDER
>1) 86,316: Shellin (Nijisanji) 3D reveal
>2) 55,816: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Yugioh Tournament DAY1
>3) 40,261: Miko (Hololive) Buckshot Roulette w/ Fubuki, Mio, Okayu [S]
>4) 88,768: Fubuki (Hololive) FBKINGDOM Fest. + 1st Sololive Announcement
>5) 63,844: Kanade (Hololive) Liar's Bar w/ Noel, Marine, Subaru
>6) 37,482: Sakuna (Indie) Zatsudan
>7) 34,975: Subaru (Hololive) Holomem class seating chart [S]
>8) 30,444: AZKi (Hololive) Hololive Koushien 2024 #7 [S]
>9) 190,351: Niko (Hololive) Debut stream
>10) 83,892: FlowGlow (Hololive) 1st full gen collab
>11) 28,299: Kanade (Hololive) Maripa w/ Noel, Ayame, Lui [4th]
>12) 82,696: Nene (Hololive) Return Stream
>13) 99,667: Yashiro (Nijisanji) Dokuzuhonsha live
>14) 69,795: Suisei (Hololive) Sololive - free part
>15) 114,577: Lamy (Hololive) Birthday variety 3D
>16) 59,171: Marine (Hololive) Liar’s Bar w/Lamy, Korone, and Noel
>17) 121,875: Koyori (Hololive) HoloKoshien
>18) 78,899: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) SF6
>19) 39,957: Iroha (Hololive) 1m endurance Karaoke
>20) 38,261: Okayu (Hololive) Mario Party Jamboree w/Niko, Vivi, Fubuki
>21) 48,362: Matsuri (Hololive) Mario Party Jamboree w/Subaru, Pekora, Ayame
>22) 44,454: Toya (Nijisanji) NijiSplatoon tournament warmup
>23) 59,519: Ponpoko (Indie)24 hours stream
>24) 103,318: Noel (Hololive) birthday 3d Live

> PER COMPANY
5x: Nijisanji
16x: Hololive
2x: Indie

>>90172659
It's not games, it's livestreaming. Females aren't streamwatchers, I have been repeating this for years and you may call me a schizo but the facts are there. Women might become streamers because they can see that the male audience is there, but women don't WATCH streams.

>>90172876
EN is weird because it's never going to be better than it was a the very start. No matter what, nothing could ever make them get to even a fraction of the popularity they had back then, so when comparing eras you have to be very careful with the wording, because otherwise it gets really depressing really fast with the hole "it's never going to be this good again" specially for a thread that favors those holos who came after that phase. Which doesn't really apply to the other branches, JP - better than ever, ID - bout the same, maybe a little worse, their peak was ID2 being EN1.5, but ID management killed that momentum real fast.

>>90173032
Im watching pillow and shes giving ME kisses dunno bout the other fags

>>90173073
I think she needs some kind of therapy for her clearly crippling anxiety

>>90173018
do you use the "real friends" shit like a tagline out of desperate need to be recognized for something in your life?

>>90173097
NOVEMBER 2024 holoID TALLY
>1) 6,481: Kaela (Core Keeper SOLO WORLD)
>2) 9,400: Anya (Buckshot Roulette w/ Raora, Kiara, Reine)
>3) 7,744: Zeta (Super Mario Party Jamboree w/ Holoh3ro)
>4) 4,360: Kaela (Core Keeper w/ GRAONDSTONE)
>5) 4,311: Kaela (Lethal Company)
>6) 5,061: Zeta (Bday countdown & new accessory reveal)
>7) 25,787: Zeta (Zeta 3D bday J*zzeta)
>8) 1,494: Reine (Unsorted Horror)
>9) 3,730: Kaela (Core Keeper)
>10) 7,405: Moona (unarchive karaoke stream)
>11) 4,625: Anya (Iron Lung)
>12) 7,881: Moona (Liar’s Bar)
>13) 2,892: Zeta (Omusubi)
>14) 3,387: Kaela (Core Keeper)
>15) 7,310 Ollie (Holocure)
>16) 5,290 Risu (Unarchived Karaoke)
>17) 3,974 Kobo (Valorant)
>18) 1,883 Risu (Monday Malam Malas)
>19) 12,763: Kaela (Holocure)
>20) 2,608: Ollie (Delivering Hope)
>21) 3,816: Kaela (Thought Experiment Simulator)
>22) 9,885: Ollie (Holocure)
>23) 3,907: Moona (HoloCure)
>24) 1,392: Iofi (Core Keeper)

> PER STREAMER
7x: Kaela
4x: Zeta
3x: Ollie, Moona
2x: Anya, Risu
1x: Reine, Kobo, Iofi

What can Yagoo do to make Holostars incline?

>>90172962
>malaysian

>>90172575
>most cohesion EN ever had
I don't know if we ever CAN get back to that level either. There are those who lived through grim and those who didn't can't understand what it was like. From my perspective, Mori and Fauna are effectively the only two who are still trying to have a monolithic EN

>>90173133
I can't believe my sister isn't a woman

>>90173036 (me)
Sorry. Wrong source. Right sources are BVTM and OKBH

https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1860865176180056531

kinda late but ok

>>90172962
>MYR

>>90173134
ID3 honeymoon period was better bro

>>90173211
/vt/ is bvtm/okbh's board, so it's correct either way

>>90173050
I trust Miosha more than KoyoJones

>>90173133
You don't need to sell them streams, Hololive, at least JP, is not entirely about streams anymore, there's many more ways to reach the female audience. the current state of HoloJP can actually go toe to toe with proper midlde sized idols groups in terms of music output. they can be reached, just not with streams. and even then, withing streams they did find women willing to watch them as proven by Marine's female demographic. Vlogs, music, there's way to get to them
Hololive JP has stopped being about streams only for a really long time already

https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1860865176180056531
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1860865176180056531
https://x.com/hololive_En/status/1860865176180056531

>>90173221
Why would anyone willingly drink gamer supps?

>>90173351
I would if it had Fauna's face on it

>>90173182
They can do well as a fleshie

>>90172876
Depending on the meaning I don't see what's wrong with that.
If it means
>Fan interest is at the highest it's been, INCLUDING the Mythmania days
then it's horse shit, but if it means
>Fan interest is at the highest it's been, EXCEPT FOR the Mythmania days
then it's pretty accurate

>>90173182
mandated live x stars pairing

>>90173182
tell them to show up in Biboo's chat

GET THE FUCK IN HERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gyiY1hrHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gyiY1hrHM

>>90173351
If it wasn't for the price I would chug anime girl thighs all day

>>90173182
Official het ships like 2018/2019 Niji

>>90173196
For every woman like your sister, there are 1000 male streamwatchers. Female viewers are statistically irrelevant when you look at streaming as a whole.

>>90173345
And that's the correct strategy. There's no point in trying to change entrenched behavior, just take your product to where the women already are.

>>90173134
that's kind of a retardedly reductive approach that reduces them basically to their CCV counts
you can't reasonably say someone like Mori felt more overall successful having 30k people watching her failing at vidya compared to her giving an interview about her music on national TV
also a sudden spurt of virality can mean massive sub/viewrship jumps out of nowhere (Marine, Suisei, now even fucking Raden and Jimmy)

>>90172780
Funny how you rank Subaru as the weakest First Army when Suisei's numbers are as bad as they are.

>>90173476
Did she see IRyS do a watchalong and go
>oh damn I can do that, hell I SHOULD do that
or was this in the books for a while

>>90173032
>she raided into risu
i don't remember Moona raiding into a homo, or any other holo that's not ERB, at all.

>>90173134
>ID - bout the same, maybe a little worse, their peak was ID2 being EN1.5,
Their peak was post id 3 though

>>90173351
I'm just buying the shirts

https://x.com/shiorinovella/status/1860866181030109187
https://x.com/shiorinovella/status/1860866181030109187
https://x.com/shiorinovella/status/1860866181030109187

>>90173501
>thinking it's a 1:1000 ratio
At absolute worst it's a 1:10 ratio, even girls with no female appeal like fucking IRyS have 15% female viewership

Justice baby here but myth mania can not be that crazy compared to modern holo en.

>>90173423
He need to ask Riku for this

>>90173520
She raided hakka a couple streams ago

>>90171751
15k. IRyS's buff

>>90173411
It is still horse shit excluding Mythmania because CouncilRyS

>>90173562
What a dork

>>90173568
the streams were mid but the threads were fun

>>90173182
sell them to Brave

>>90169636
Arisu is a dirty little girl.

>>90173182
Nothing can be done to save those fucking THINGS. They had ONE SHOT once they made homoEN a thing and they hired the absolute fucking worst faggy discord kids imaginable and they've only gotten worse and worse somehow. I don't wanna hear how the clown nigger is somehow their savior and JUST LIKE JERMA BUT AN ANIME GUY KEK LMAO like shut the fuck up, no he isn't and he never will be he's just another faggot trying too hard.

>>90173050
nijisanji already did lol

>>90173568
advent and justice newfags refusing to do their reps is depressing

>never once signed up for anybody's membership
It feels like I missed the boat.

>>90173674
You know now that I think about it, I've never actually heard one of the beggars explain how he's like Jerma.

You guys remember when Kronies caused their own worst possible outcome by using the leaked Minecraft server seed and spying on Kronii doing off-stream Minecraft

>>90173504
>interview about her music on national TV
nta but all that is in Japan where vtubers are mainstream.

>>90173568
sorry but I don't see any 33 pages schizo manifesto about CCGG like Amesame had

>>90173647

>>90173674
I think clown is alright and at least he's not trying to leech hololive most of the times. But he is 100% trying too hard

>>90173520

How can we save ame

>>90173892
She chose her path, anon. Only she can save herself now.

>>90173568
It is genuinely impossible to explain to newfags how absurd Mythmania was beyond just showing them pictures like this and letting them understand how insane it must've been for that to get that kind of reach

>>90171864
How do I get access to this ass?

>>90173892
By praying hard that not-Ame fucks up so bad that Ame will be scrubbed from Hololive history.

>>90173957
I was there

>>90173568
Because Myth mania was essentially just Gurame. Mori kept to herself and didn't participate in most things. Kiara streamed 12 hours before everyone else did. Ina is Ina. Modern HoloEN simply cannnot hit the same ceilings.

>>90173733
early Kronies were retarded control freaks since their core was composed of spurned Mori gachis who fucked off when she bucked against their autism rather than sticking around, like those who openly corrected and criticized her in comments
they thought they could get their deep-voiced autist "right" this time around if they put up the screws and instead fucked themselves over in exact same fashion
most of that crew long moved on tho (with some getting stuck on IRyS and Fauna like fleas)

>>90173892
people can only save themselves

>>90169636
>>90173647

>>90173347
I get they wanted to get the girls with the biggest tits in EN but the collab could use a more balanced color lineup it's way too much blue

>>90174015
>blaming fans for their choices
I guess.

>>90174012
>Because Myth mania was essentially just Gurame.
Yeah sure ignore Ina's numbers and why "stable octopus tip" became a thing

>>90173767
4k venue in the US

>>90173996
>smol Ame
>Cover selling her Halloween designs
>designed dinogura
You wish, Advent toddler. Try making your mark in the same way.

>>90173767
not just that, hololive has a deal with ntv/vclan for the whole buzz rhythm/music verse program. all those were on broadcast tv. I'm fairly certain other vtuber (indies like single mother Ray included) can pay into that program through the C+ network.
pay for play is still alive and well there

DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>90174076
Gamersups is deathly afraid of lolis please understand

>>90174012
Newfag

>>90173568
For reference, there were Ina solo streams that peaked higher than this >>90174012

>>90174012
Kiara self sabotages by streaming Fire Emblem and Tales games

>>90173707
Why should they? They're here to watch Advent and Justice. They can never go back and BE there, but they were there for Advent and Justice because that's their Myth.

>>90173988
Be her husband, which you can't because her husband is me soz

>>90174111
Make sense, teacuck.

>>90174080
if you criticize someone (especially in harsh words) and then fuck off when they reapond harshly, you're kind of a spineless fag, I can't sugarcoat it
also trying to groom a creator into your own fantasy is faggy 2view logic, the Holo girls made it where they are thanks to who they are and trying to force them in a mold always end badly

>>90173957
Look at this shit
LOOK AT THIS SHIT
THIS FEAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE IN THE MODERN ERA
TEN THOUSAND CCV FOR FUCKING KIARA ON FUCKING RICE LOLI IS A FEAT THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN TO THE MODERN AUDIENCE IN TERMS OF HOW ABSURD IT IS
FULL BRANCH COLLAB NUMBERS FOR A FUCKING TAKAMORI MINECRAFT COLLAB THAT HAPPENED AT FUCKING 6:00 AM EST
This is like trying to explain to a person in the 9th century what the ruins of Aqueducts were for

>>90173774
>>90173568
>33

>>90173733
kronies calling out Kronii on her offline minecraft autism was the single worst thing they did to her, and yeah the whole homo collab debacle was just second to it.

Boy Fauna clearly didn't take that, "I'll try to stream more this week" from her LA Noire stream very seriously huh.

>>90174067
too old

>>90174012
Mori, Kiara, Ina all had a 20k average+, and we are not talking about peak average for the record. Seeing indies and vshojokeks brag about 7k averages bring a smile to my face everytime I think about what a real influence over the EN market looked like.

>myth mania
More like myth meme

>>90174255
i love samefagging too sis!!

>>90174303
>putting your foot down then bouncing when people fuck up anyway is spineless
lol
lmao

>>90174396
it wasn't influence, it was monopoly

>>90174015
You wanna know something fucked up?
I can 100% be positive that there is someone from those times who went down this path:
>Followed Mori in Mythmania
>got pissed off at her and became an ex-deadbeat
>Jumped on the Kronii bandwagon
>got pissed at her for the Minecraft stuff and became an ex-kronie
>jumped on the Nerissa bandwagon (back when people were saying she'd be Kronii 2.0)
>got pissed at her for being a girlfailure or something and left
>Jumped on the ERB bandwagon (pre-debut when she was the edgelord cool girl)
>got pissed at HER for her homo stuff and left
There's someone out there who has that exact pattern, God help their soul.

>>90174366
>Fauna
>serious at anything

WHY ARE >WE SO DEAD

>>90174476
Well she clearly had time to do stuff, considering she was making shit elsewhere

>>90174120
Oh shit Japan just does Payola out in the open? Wack

>>90173733
>You guys remember when Kronies
No, I really don't. On the list of things that interest me, kronies are pretty much at the bottom.

>>90174188
if they want to talk about Myth then they should do their reps
it isn't rocket science to watch VODs

>>90173852
Even ID don't want to watch Dubai kek

>>90174349
>"Oh god im gonna be such a control freak that it will make my oshi stop playing the game she likes"
why did they do it...
captcha: KYSK8A

>>90174491
Thanksgiving

>>90174333
>I distinctly remember thinking this guy is a fucking loser
we didn't know how good we had it back then
now we have ennacuck and the discord sissies

>>90174446
Other EN vtubers existed at the time, people chose EN over them, always. The same can be said today but in a much minor scale, mostly thanks to 2022.

>>90174430
there's no putting a foot down if you fuck off at the slightest retort

is it really that easy to bait people to shit on a holo just by shitting on other holo while using that holo image? is it a samefagging or actual retards falling for it?

>>90174540
>do the opposite of what you say you will
Why are you trying to argue all this when numbers proved it all anyway? Wrong thread, sis.

>>90174306
Those viewers didn't stop existing, but they stopped watching Myth. I don't think you can blame Cover or Youtube or sunspots for waving a magic wand and simply wishing people out of existence so they can never watch Myth again.

>>90173018
Gura has beef with JESUS?

>>90174536
but where's ame's blimp parade stream

>I don't think you can blame Youtube
roru
rumao even

https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1860864801779638624
DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Okay these two are actually trying to harm their branchmates, it's the only explanation

>>90173568
Advent/Justice babies will never know the pains Mori 1.0 , days when Kiara could tweet and the board will turn orange or # dorya when meme review would break 10k.

>>90174594
>I don't think you can blame Youtube

>>90174594
I mean I can literally do exactly that, I can blame Youtube for changing how they count viewership in the end of December 2020 which caused a noticeable decrease in CCV for everyone on the website

>>90174647
LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE LEAGUE

>>90174647
>MORE
jurard and shinri

>>90173134
In 2021 one of the biggest things to happen was Mori doing a song for a c-tier gacha.
In 2024 Mori performed on the same stage as Ado

>>90174665
>meme review would break 10k
You mean 100k

People talking about era but Luxiem at their Peak still beats this era without Gura.
MythMania >>>> CouncilRys >>>> Luxiem Peak >> Advent debut > This era without Gura

>>90174665
># dorya when meme review would break 10k.
We did not exist concurrently with Meme Review

>>90174647
By inviting them to play game that does good numbers?

>>90174647
>and more
oh boy, here we go
hiding who the other participants are is not a good sign

>>90174733

>>90174733
And what if we only count North American viewers like God intended?

>>90174692
>>90174733
Be less obvious vermin

>>90174647
I will predict ERB and maybe CC joins

>>90174733
The chinks are gone sis... it's time to move on...

>>90174473
the kind of retards you're describing ended up being small corpo fags, hell most probably went out during the grim era, i remember looking at some ex-kronies going for ghost gura after the homo debacle, and well... you know how that went now KEK

>>90174647
I'm sure Fauna will have time for this at least haha

>>90174592
because we started talking about gachis, not numbers
if you fuck off at slightest oushback it shows your investment was low
and yes, numbers proven that besides while Mori stream numbers dipped her earnings barely did (which is where the gachi count actually shows)

>>90174733
Not now cuckxiemfag adults are talking.

>>90174825
>invest in a thing
>thing changes
>REEE YOU'RE SPINELESS
You should watch homos yourself, honestly. You're "investing" right?

>>90174647
>Hire a nijisister and she acts like a nijisister
Damn no way

>>90174647
Ok between
>league streams
>roblox obsession
which is preferable?

>>90174898
>thing changes
To be clear the thing that happened was that Kronii played Minecraft off-stream instead of on-stream, that's the thing that you're talking about, you understand that?

>>90174491
I've been keeping Ennacuck on his hamster wheel

>>90174906
Are you mad Niji doesn't get # with it? I don't get it.

>pajeets copystriking Kronii's orisongs
...

what about gura?

>>90174647
the hell is this ERB-ass schedule

>>90174934
It's not the ONLY thing I'm talking about. You realize you don't control this conversation, don't you?

>>90174952
Fucking huh, what

>>90169475
sasuga EN 0

>>90174742
It might do good numbers because of the tourists, but the fans don't like it
All I see every time one of them starts talking about League is chat going "NOOOO" and "DON'T"

>>90174683
Wouldn't that mean that Promise, Advent and Justice have better true CCV too and mythmania wasn't some exceptional miracle because those 10k-12k streams we see today are closer to 20k in reality? Or was the CCV change some kind of selective conspiracy that only targets Myth to this day? Which is it?

>>90174012

>>90174701
Let's not pretend that the Mori concert wasn't basically a make a wish gift, she didn't get the level of popularity required for something like that, she just got lucky that UMG cashed in a couple of flavors, Ado along mogs all of Hololive

>>90174647
eh riot changed how pro tier2 works in EU and a bunch of the top dogs are making moves to pump new teams and content unironically league algo is in heaven right now, maybe they can catch some waves from it, in the end it's CGDCT collab for 2-3hrs there are worse options.

>>90174964
Damn nigga I wonder what an American woman could possibly be doing this week that would leave her busy on Thursday and the weekend

>>90174964
the diva of en everyone

>>90175003
chu

>>90174964
if you read the text in the tweet attached to the image it makes a lot more sense, the short version is she doesn't know if she can stream two of those "free" days

Question for you oldfags, were the schizos back then as insane and dedicated as the schizos nowadays?
How were egg and squirmbeat compared to the ennacuck legion?

>>90174964
4-6 streams in a holiday week where her family is visiting, better than most of EN.