/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>90128775
>The lack of support we get from this company is insane. That's what I've been dealing with for the past 2 and a half years
Kek. Based management giving the cold shoulder to these whiny faggots.

>>90128775
Considering he decided to scrap his second outfit when it was almost done, wasting Cover's time and money. Probably.

He seems like a pain in the ass to work with desu.

>>90128775
That's pretty fucked, actually. Makes a lot of sense why people like Altare or Ame, who are competent enough to do projects and set up their own them studios themselves get burnt out waiting for management to get off their asses to do anything.

>The boys are totally taking all of the support away from the girls.
Each day that retarded rrat gets more and more ridiculous.

>I told you so moment
Homo is regretting not quitting with vesper and magni it seems, Wouldn't surprise me to see all of tempiss gen 1 reunite and try to form some garbage 2view let's play collab channel nobody will ever watch cause they drove all of the potential brotuber fans away with yab after yab

Why does Cover hate the boys if they insist on having them

>>90128775
am I crazy or he sounds like an even bigger faggot nowadays, like who even talks like that

>>90129023
Sounds like Magni and Vesper bitching about their models only to fuck off. Like fucks sake dumbasses the reason people here picked you up was because the sisters didn’t want you as your models were ass. That’s why the Magging shit started, the sisters were shitting on you and then you still picked the sisters over the bros in the long run. Serves them right
>altare
Who? Oh yeah only sisters like this guys faggot voice

>>90128775
More like Cover "hates" Stars. And not just them that has problems with management, the girls side also dealt with the same issue, though the issues were fixed almost immediately because they don't wanna dissatisfy the main money maker branch

In this current context, the issue was not that Altare had a project and got shut down. He had an issue (something recoil but I can't hear properly) but the manager was so retarded that they ignored it and let it drag like those AI mail reply "We will get back to you shortly" until he had enough and fixed it himself

Too bad for the Stars is that they made so little money that in return, they received way less attention and resource than the girls. Though not like the antis and anons /here/ cared anyway, you all only jumped on Cover's throat if it happened to the girls instead

>>90128775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrl9IaSX7rM&t=11518s

weird that cover is allowing this (segment of the) stream to stay up.
openly shitting on them like this has to be a contract violation, where is his suspension?

>>90128775
yes a dead branch deserves a dead support team

>>90129120
jesus have you tried not talking like a faggot

>>90129166
Why don't you start another campaign? It worked so well to get Jurard fired.

Cover isn't a black company, so this isn't any kind of issue. Mori, Kroni, Kiara have said much worse.

>>90129166
This isn't Niji where they punished the talents for speaking up about the management

Kiara didn't hide her dissatisfaction during the Omega arc and guess what happened after that? Kiara didn't get punished, Omega did, and replaced with a more competent one

At least for Cover, if something happened to the talents, they will try their best to fix it internally. And I bet after this stream, Altare's manager is gonna get kicked out

Yes, we all hate him

t. Cover worker

p.s. look forward to the next Announcement in a few days regarding a certain Armis member.

i wonder if they're giving him the japanese annoy-you-until-you-quit treatment

>>90129296
>And I bet after this stream, Altare's manager is gonna get kicked out
Yeah that's not happening.
Though I'm curious if he's considering the ame way. Unfortunately, as a male vtuber, there IS no better place than Holostars. As much as he's compared to the girls, the stars make far better numbers than any of the self-made male vtubers, except for maybe Shoto who leeched his audience from peak Luxiem.
Leaving would be a bad move unless he leaves vtubing entirely and gets a non-streaming job.

>>90128983
What does this say about Gura then? They've been doing the same shit to her since the very start.

Gos these faggots get the easiest ride in existence and never fucking stop whining

>>90129518
This but Holos. All they do is whine and whine.

>>90128983
Psst, it's not just limited to the boys.

>>90129518
>Ignores Kiara

>>90129627
thats the point, they are acting like women

>>90129597
Its Okay for Cover to ignore their talent as long as its the men. Its Karma for them taking the resources that could be much better used to improve Hololive.

>>90128983
then graduate already faggot
and dont forget to bring another homo along with you

>>90129824
They should stop funding their retarded Holoearth project and use it to actually improve their current talents.

>>90128775
uhh holokeks? wasnt one of the things you are boasting over the nijis is that your company supports your talents? what happened with that?

>>90129865
howwould more money help? did u forgot all the adertisement they did in the beginning? any money they put into them will never be made back. starsEN is a net loss for cover

>>90129319
Is it the cute one please say yes

>>90129970
We don’t like homostars, this is a good thing

japanese efficiency

>>90128775
I don't know why the holopro members still don't get it, stop trusting the company for tasks that you can do by yourselves or that don't really need their help more than for communication
>But it's still a tech company and they should help their work..
They are useless, most of them don't know basic things and the ones who know stuff don't work to help the talents. Like, Fauna and Mumei saw that Kronii and Gura trusted management for their original songs and it ended up in a horrible mess, WELL let's trust them again, and now the faumei song is in the limbo. And there's more examples, but the thing is that if you can do it by yourself, then do it yourself, because you know they are incompetent

>>90129970
No one said Cover supported everyone and they did no wrong. Hell have we all forgotten Ame? The only thing that Cover has advantage over Anycolor is having lower number of complaints and public breakout. For Anycolor, at one point in time, they had a drama everyday

>>90129865
Dawg Cover hired much more employees this year. There is a graph that stated percentage of management team is higher than the talents themselves. The problem isn't the funding, but rather the lack of quality

>>90129754
It is woman like to expose that the management in your company is ass?

>>90130106
>Cover hired much more employees this year

imagine having more than 500 employees but being unable to answer your talents request for weeks
they seem bloated, inefficient atm. propably grew too fast

>>90128775
Huh. I guess Holostars share the same management as HoloEN? I've heard nothing but not great things about management. I mean yes, if there's no talk about it then they're doing their job, but this is grossly neglect after neglect. I'm 100% sure it's the same for Ina's case where she's doing her due diligence to keep her working visa updated, but HoloEN STILL manages to fuck things up.

>>90130311
This. I genuinely don't understand how ineffective their company structure is. They need someone outside the company to see what the fuck is wrong with the chain of command and restructure things.

>>90128775
I really think he should head out on his own, maybe team up with old friends.
there's no way it could be worse as an indie, and the freedom would feel incredible. He clearly resents being in Holostars and isn't happy.

>>90128775
I hope so

>>90130584
That's the thing. Holostars IS the peak for male vtubing right now. The only people higher than them are Shoto, and fleshies who became vtubers later.
It's unrealistic to expect to do better outside the company than in it, especially if you're trying to pay off a fucking 3D studio.

>>90130531
Japanese. Japanese corpo. That's what's wrong with them.

>>90130665
Could he have a shot getting a Vshojo slot like that Kuro guy? Or does vshojo regret that deal and aren't hiring dudes anymore? I never saw them do it again

>>90130680
I don't see any of the JPs suffering from gross mismanagement though? Okay, Mel was one it was still early Hololive.

>>90130794
Japanese are used to Japanese corpos
Westernets aren't

>>90130694
No. He has no connections in Vshojo and doesn't really mesh with that kind of atmosphere, Kuro aside. He's mostly a chill guy from what I've seen and is as easygoing as he looks.
>>90130794
Marine complains about it like every time she streams.
I can remember a lot of stories from others like Kanata too.
Holo management is just incompetent in general and extremely slow.

>>90130823
too many middle managements which make shit unnecessarily complicated and long. In holo, you really need a competent manager to push your shit through all those mid management bullshit

genuine question but how does regis avoid so much backlash when he is constantly collabing with the girls? even like a day ago he collabed with Bae for her sub countdown stream. for as much hate the homos get for potentially collabing with the girls regis seems to fly under the radar and avoid most of hate despite ACTUALLY collabing with girls, like dude has made his way through EN and ID. it seems hes able to successfully collab with the girls with as little blowback as the jp stars do which is insane to me. how does he get away with a lot of the shit he does? gura gets more hate threads than this guy somehow.

>>90128775
eat shit thecause

>>90128775
why is he doing some weird fucking ASMR whisper voice? are you a man? fucking speak up

I don't watch male vtubers but this one has a point.
https://youtu.be/gyMKVDzlvh8
I guess that's why Ame left.

>>90130973
he did not fly under the radar
there were plenty of threads shitting on him, especially during his first collabs with Kobo
it just gets tiresome shitting on someone about the same thing for over 2 years

>>90129166
>weird that cover is allowing this (segment of the) stream to stay up.

Bold of you to assume that they fucking watch his streams, or anyone else do it for the matter

>>90130973
He and Axel are just kind of accepted at this point. He's completely harmless and extremely outgoing, helping a lot of people behind the scenes.
If you're gonna pick a starEN to collab with, he's the best one as long as you can deal with his voice. He's got an incredible reputation among other content creators.
>>90131026
That IS his natural speaking voice. He sounds like that even on his RM.

>>90130973
No? He gets called a leech all the time. Remember when he yab'd about wanting to fight a viewer irl for calling him out on that?

>>90131034
first time seeing this
this is a very insightful clip

>>90131053
Well now they do. 100% sure of it. Watch this part get scrubbed in a few days.

>>90129970
>supports your talents
Homos is NOT part of Hololive though

>>90131106
this is not Nijisanji
they never deleted any streams of Kiara shitting on the management, doubt they will do it with the boys streams

>>90131062
>That IS his natural speaking voice. He sounds like that even on his RM.
He should go see a doctor then

cover is unironically healing

>>90129296
Altare's manager? Fuck no, they love that dude. Most of them talk about their direct managers positively, even some others that they've given nicknames to.
It's just that there's obviously a lot of other staff that aren't necessarily on the ball. For example, during Armis's anniversary, they talked about how before debut, they brought in an audio tech to ""fix"" their mic settings, resulting in audio scuff and bad settings that they've spent the last year undoing. Or that time they improperly credited someone on an original song so they took it down and somehow spent an entire month fixing it. They also uploaded it to the wrong channel initially. Sasuga management

>>90130311
because they only hired back office, sales or metaverse staff?
why is it too hard to understand?
the fact they are still opening manager job searching mean they are still lacking staff on talent management

>>90129166
>where is his suspension?
https://x.com/regisaltare/status/1859586946554589646

>faggot
>victimhood complex
Very shocking

>>90131181
Bruh. The HoloEN branch top streamers aren't streaming, one just got fed up of it and left. This isn't healing.

>>90131241
>HoloEN branch top streamers
I don't have a laughing frog image for this

>>90131241
>top streamers
>streamers
>stream
lol

>>90131205
>They also uploaded it to the wrong channel initially.
ok that'd be hilarious if it wasn't crippling to a channel's viewership.

>>90131034
MANAGEMENT HATE

Stars unironically think they deserve the same level of treatment as the girls when they get 10% of the audience

>>90131205
grim
never thought i would feel sympathy for the homos at one point

>>90131224
you know whats next, starts with r and ends with ope

>>90131510
altare arent you on a break?

>>90128775
manWHO(re)?

>>90131034
Uhhhh holobronies?

>>90131241
>HoloEN branch top streamers
>one just got fed up of it and left
kek he thinks Ame is one of the top streamers

stars trannies using ame as an excuse is pretty funny when she immediately proved everyone right by doing the exact same thing she was doing in hololive (not streaming)

>>90130973
Can you post the definition of collab. If a prerecorded karaoke is consider a collab then bae have collab with every homo during that stream.

>>90131034
It's kinda hillarious how virtually none of the ex big corpo (both Holo and Niji) ends up doing anything particularly new or creative compared to their corpo selves, though

>>90131750
doki does big tournaments but to be fair she was doing that in niji too when management wasn't fucking her over

>>90131736
> If a prerecorded karaoke is consider a collab then bae have collab with every homo during that stream
NTA, but yes, it is considered a collab and yes, she did.

>>90130694
Vshojo are not gonna waste an invite for someone like him. They are already debuting multiple new members next year and will focus on their growth for at least the next 6 months

>>90131862
So she didn't collab with him, got it.

>>90131736
>then bae have collab with every homo during that stream.
I mean, havent she kinda done that in normal streams as well? most JP ones atleast

>>90131750
the fuck you saying! say that to my face BITCH

>>90128775
He makes the company no money. It's impressive that he keeps that same voice while ostensibly ranting. There's no way he isn't graduating.

>>90131750
Matara's done quite a lot of crazy shit apparently. She's joined all kinds of wild collabs and companies.

>>90128775
Why doesnt this faggot speak like he's trying to do gay ASMR

>>90131992
They were both in the Worms tourney, why do you fuckers have such bad memory?
Does high estrogen levels lead to memory loss?

>>90132006
On en only vesper, shinri and bettel during that infamous homofan called out.

>>90132111
Name 3 of said "crazy shit"

>>90129166
Kek none of the managers watch streams in EN. They had no idea Nerissa was having her family on streams for instance

>>90129151
Rokoko coil, it's a thing used for motion capture

>>90132203
En managers knew. It was the jp managers who didn't know.

>>90132188
fuck if I know. I don't actually watch her.
I just remember hearing she joined some fleshie hollywood agency, which is borderline unheard of for a vtuber in the west

>>90132171
Axel too

>>90129597
retards cant tell. their hate comes first. plenty of the girls already expressed their frustration multiple times in the past.
ame built a studio to do 3D shit but never got to use it. "graduates" and now can fool around whenever she wants, when her third world internet allows, at least.
the actual difference here is that the girls are the money makers while the boys are third class citizens.
guy in the OP came into the company bright-eyed expecting they'll amount to something, but males have no future in yagoo's company.

>>90132264
she became a hollywood fluffer kek

>>90132364
>guy in the OP came into the company bright-eyed expecting they'll amount to something, but males have no future in yagoo's company
reminder that Magni unironically expected to get to collab with Marine kek

>>90132432
source?

>>90128775
>irritable recently
what the fuck is he talking about? he is the homo ame bitching at his chat since the very beginning

>>90128775
Damn bruh.

>>90132432
The Orange homo had the goal of 1 mil subs in his debut. The highest amount of subs they have to this day is roberu with 333.000 subs, so obviously they are a bit delusional.

Crazy bootlickers here.

>>90132964
I distinctly recall starmin shitting on my oshi for several things, so their ex-fags and current ones can all get stuffed.

>>90132803
>ruined Zeta
>ruined Nodoka
dddddddddddddddddddddddingo man

>>90132964
The real bootlicking is actually liking these faggots, with how much management shits them out in front of everyone.

>>90128983
I know unicorns on this board want to gloat that Altare is angry with management but most of the girls in HoloEN feel the same way. They have started complaining about projects getting delayed or cancelled. Management treating the EN branch like shit will piss off more than Holostars and isn't something to celebrate unless you believe in a scorched earth victory.

>>90131293
>>90131311
>Gura isn't holoEN's top streamer
Ah, you're retarded.

>>90128775
This sounds exactly like Pomu's situation.

man I'm so happy homos are finally getting the treatment they deserve and all the sisters coping that the homos dissappearing tommorow would somehow be bad thing for hololive

>>90132264
Pretty much. Reminder how miserable she was under Niji. A good management can carry you far instead of clipping your wings.

>>90133606
>hollywood
yeah, carrying you into the fire

>>90133538
Funny when the girls were complaing, while the guys were having it great, that supposedly didn't have anything to do with each other, but now that the homos are crying, they are directly connected?

>>90133661
It's VShoujo. It fits them.

>>90133538
Omega fucked the EN side when he tried to merge the homos into the main side. There will always be issues with management but those homos leeching resources are worse for the branch than the other management issues.

>>90133847
Neither side really had a great time with management. Why do you think Vesper and Magni graduated?

>>90134118
magni had delusions of grandeur and vesper was an unironic druggy menhera

>>90134167
The real reason is that they had issues with management.

>>90132628

>>90134203
indeed, stemming from their delusions of grandeur and drug addiction, respectively

>>90134118
Good for bringing those two up. Why did iRys redesign take so long, but Vespers didn't? Tip: She has said that Redjuice wasn't at fault, he actually had a time period where he didn't accept other commisions, because he was waiting for management to contact him, but they just fuking didn't.

>>90128775
Wow, cover are just like me!

>>90134239
What a fucking idiot. Why are men like this

>>90134239
what does this prove

>>90128775
I genuinely hope this branch gets the rope

>>90129151
>you all only jumped on Cover's throat if it happened to the girls instead

damn right i would, I'm not a fan of Cover or the fucking company. I will kill for my oshi. I also want all the homos to die or atleast graduate

i feel okay about this, if this will force him to graduate eventually, it works for me. I better not hear the same thing about the girls though

>>90134239
so he knows Marine exists? that's crazy

>>90128775
NOOO PLEASE SAVE ME "the cause" WARRIORS I SUPPORTED YOU HARRASSING MY OWN KIN AIEEEE

>>90128775
I got no love for the stars. Honestly I don't think about them at all but this shit is a major peeve of mine. I fucking hate when people say they'll do something and just, don't. If someone wasted 4 months of my time on a 1 hr fix then I'd be pissed too. Dude's keeping it together better than I could

>>90134515
Remember when EN twitter would push the most superficial homo shit while conveniently forgetting to bring up holo events until the next day? Can't believe these fuckwits have the gall to complain

>>90133560
You have to stream to be a streamer.

>>90128775
Hate marketing is their strategy, management's just helping that along on their end

Hard to convey just how much of a mistake this homo branch has been in every regard

>>90134855
yeah but you don't understand, nobody watches them anyway

>>90135049
That's the point? There's a reason why she's not streaming.
>she's just lazy
Well maybe management should do better not to turn away their talents.

>>90128775
Although I don't believe homos deserve any "support" (read: money burnt), I do feel bad for him here.
The support he talks about isn't "give me more concerts/models" or whatever, it's ACTUAL basic tech support. And the issue he mentioned is definitely something all of HoloLIVE EN has to deal with as well. Holo management is INSANELY incompetent, on top of presumably being very understaffed and overloaded. But they string you along with "oh we'll help you trust us" bullshit. Every time. If you watch streams you know all the past incidents.

You'll learn to "fuck it I'll do it myself" very early on but you have to consider that a lot of stuff ONLY works because they spent years building an established support network of fan-workers like Kanauru. They even have to have these people WORK ON 3D MOTION DATA because Cover can't be assed to do it or pretends they "can't".
And if you don't have that support network you're basically just shit out of luck. And even if you do have it you still have to basically be your own manager and oversee every fucking aspect of your own projects. There is no "let management handle it" for anything, ever. Only a select few care so much that they're willing to take that load on their back and I don't think they should ever be expected to. Yet people still act clueless about why certain EN's don't seem to engage in idol/3D stuff much.

>>90128775
I feel no sympathy towards him or anyone in this god forsaken branch

>>90134515
>I better not hear the same thing about the girls though
So I guess you didn't hear about Kronii complaining she got ghosted for 20 days

>>90135254
maybe if we dump more resources into them.... quick, cancel subaru's birthday again

>>90135254
Antis watch them to clip stuff like this, but I get it, hate marketing works doesn't it? Hey here's an idea, keep using everyone's oshis as bait for drama and clout, that's gonna make em incline

>>90132203
StarsEN actually has some of the most active talent managers on streams in Cover. They post polls in chat often and sometimes even appear in person.
This staying up doesn't mean that the talent managers are ignorant and don't know about it, it means that the talent managers agree with Altare about the higher ups.

>>90135565
their managers should leave with them

>>90132203
I would say watch stream, but it seem like you dont even watch clips, so why are you vtuberantis raiding the board again?

>>90134118
Homos were always bait.Yagoo was and is retarded for thinking they could work. Chink sisters abandoned the Niji homos and went back to kpop after the initial craze. But Omega and his homos thought that they were more valuable than the girls.

>>90134118
Because they’re whiny little bitches and one of them had a breakdown over not being able to smoke weed next question.

>>90129970
Holostars are spoiled brats who throw tantrums when they get pampered slightly less than usual.

>>90128775
>click play
>the most faggot like voice I've EVER had the displeasure of hearing
>close it
Jesus fucking christ people actually listen to this? How do you not invert your own face to this shit? Is this the equivalent of loli voice for females? God almighty that is heinous, surely everyone knows no one speaks like that irl right? More to the point it sounds fucking dogshit

>>90128775
No /vt/ is obsessed with him though as this is your cock sucking, dick obsessed 200th thread on him BVTM

>>90135818
>breakdown over not being able to smoke weed next question.
So where is your proof unikek, surely you wouldnt lie right?

>>90136029
Or maybe people are just fed up with the homo favoritism

>>90134118
>Vesper and Magni
Those retarded fags overvalued themselves. It's funny how they act more like women than the actual women in the company.

>>90136072
>homo favortism
You haven't even read the thread LMAO, fucking dumbass

>>90130694
Why do you think even vshojo hasn't touched any more male vtubers after Kuro anon? The market for them is extremely limited and is made up of underage/young girls who can barely afford anything. Even Kuro lives in SEA where he can live comfortably with a lower income.

>>90132040
Going flesh is hardly innovative

>>90135986
Agreed his voice is unbearable. To be fair he WAS the runt of his gen though from the start, so it's not like it was well received by homosisters either.
>>90136101
Yeah those 2 are absolutely insufferable people. Grifter orc is already trying to use Altare's melty to chime in and give his "wisdom" on how corpo management should work. Because we definitely need advice from a manchild who broke the speedrun record for fastest suspension (in a majority-female company).
They may have had issues with management in some form but I absolutely don't believe they left the corp solely because of that. There was more to it, especially delusions of grandeur from Fagni.

>>90128775
Gotta support the cause, y'know?

>>90128775
The whole homoEN thing was a gigantic fucking dud, and the only redeeming talents that had a remote chance of carrying the rest fucking quit, and then they had to quickly scramble together and even bigger shitpile of a gen, AND THEN they had the audacity to claim "we just had SO many great applicants we just kept the leftovers and made ANOTHER gen" that somehow turned out to be even more unimportant and forgettable and brown than the previous one
Christ almighty can you even fumble this hard

>>90128775
I don't think it's personal. Cover management is just that inept.

>>90135348
Cover is not competent with tech, they suffer from the classic case of burying their heads in the Japanese tech ecosystem.
Kiara has been using Isegye's 3D app over Cover's and she mentioned that Cover's tech department were dumbfounded by how she's able to do all her 3D shit with it and asked her a bunch of questions regarding the app.

>>90134118
>Why do you think Vesper and Magni graduated?
probably because vesper was a sexpest due to autism

HololivEN has been stretched to thin
They should honestly just terminate homostars since they are a drain on resources

>>90136749
I think it was more towards vesper's own social ineptitude and anger issues that he just snapped at management for being worthless while he still had to comply to jap autism while getting nothing out of it
I also firmly believe that he called someone a nigger in a shitfit and that got him the suspension

>>90128775
Whoever hired a literal faggot need to be fucking doxxed so they can't do any work ever again in this field

>>90136351
His advice to corpos is basically
>Let the streamers do anything they want, your job is to clean up the mess afterwards
That's some dogshit advice.

I think in regards to getting Cover to do stuff; Altare's folly is emailing them instead of sending a fax.

>>90136124
Just calling it out how it is, glad that management is finally waking up how useless those fags are

>>90129094
Faggot here, we don't claim him. I've been saying since debut this guy has serial killer voice and its only getting worse. Won't be long now until he's arrested for his alleged crimes.

>>90136351
My take on Fagni is that rather than just delusions of grandeur, he's just a spoiled bitch that has always gotten most of what he wanted with little effort and never got a hard reality check until homoEN, and like a spoiled bitch he's blaming everyone else for his shortcomings

>>90137184
I dunno I've always seen Altare's voice as something more akin to Herbert the pervert from family guy.
He sounds a bit weird but if Chris is ever in trouble Herbert will be there to protect him.
Some lucky guy can sleep safe knowing Altare is the one peeping into his window.

>>90128775
Genuinely I hope he graduates so the rest can follow

>>90130311
I'll fully admit I have no idea how Holo is structured, but hiring more people in JP companies can sometimes lead to even more red tape than usual

>>90136101
I put it all on Magni. He thought he was a lot more valuable to the company than he really was, and after walking out only now is realizing how little value he had and its killing him. Vesper was just menhera, and partly had this guy whispering in his ear and partly just wanted an out.

>>90132803
So? It's good to have large goals.

>>90137152
The EN girls are pretty useless too that's why they didn't give a fuck about Ina's visa, lmao guess only JPchads matter
https://youtu.be/neB3bGwkSvg?t=204

>>90137639
Touched a nerve I see

>>90137614
There’s a difference between a large goal and being delusional

>>90137675
I'm just calling it like it is, you crying ?

>>90137639
Weird seethe

>>90137708
No but are you homosister? Better give your boiz positive support before they disband

>>90132128
high estrogen and schizophrenia yes

>>90132364
>but never got to use it.
??? pretty sure she did multiple times

>>90137714
Apropriate cope

>>90137739
You might want to do something to keep Gura,Mumei and Ina from graduating first

>>90137824
Weird deflection but ok

>>90131736
this nigga hasn't watched a single hololive stream since August of 2022

>>90132205
Rokoko has a site for troubleshooting and a contact address, why would Cover have to fix his shit? They don't make the damn things.

>>90128775
>Trying to push nijification
>dies

>>90137891
Because he wants cover to contact the troubleshooters and not him

>>90132628
nta but one of his vods as lando pre-holo has him wishing for a collab with pekora and marine

>>90137184
Hag here. It took me awhile to get use to Altare’s voice especially since I had my doubts it was his natural voice. From what I understand, his voice has always been on the deeper side, but he learned to speak that way to counteract stuttering. Lately his voice has more of a forced cheeriness to it that makes it a bit grating, which given the circumstances, makes sense why he started doing it.

>>90135362
>Kronii
Homo collaber and the worst one at that, don't care

>>90130973
Easy, deflect to Vesper homosisters dont like Vesper in the first place for not kneeling to their fujoshit and unicorns hate him for collabing with the girls. You couldnt ask for a better lightning rod.

>>90137969
Here's my thing on it, what would they even say to each other?
>I'm a big fan!
>Five seconds elapses
>Have three more hours of time to fill
Good luck with that.

>>90138055
I think he wanted the collab on his rm vod vids than his holo character

>>90130973
You're a retard saying this in a literal hate thread about him

>>90129865
Holoearth is a better investment than HomoEN.

>>90137928
It's pretty funny how he took credit for something Pomu and Kiara did.

>>90128775
I sometimes genuinely wonder how do starmin even like these fags even though they know men will be less attracted to them if they ever say they like homostars out loud.

>>90131062
>Axel the sex pest
absolutely not

>>90137928
lmao he genuinely thought he did something revolutionary

>>90130973
nobody gives a shit about id or the rat

>>90128775
I have sympathy for Holostars English, I bet they do get shit treatment from Cover. If you're a dude you're probably better off in Nijisanji (who are shit in their own way but at least you don't have the frustration of the main branch of girls getting catered to while you're ignored) or going indie.

>>90128775
I FUCKING HATE HIS VOICE. HOW DO YOU FAGS LISTEN TO THIS
tl;dr please

Grim thing is this shit is happening to the girls now. Ina's visa, Gura's Full Color, Kronii's problems with management, Kiara doomposting in members, management organised collabs being massive fuck ups, several ENs being active on their PLs after years of inactivity, etc.
Fucking sad state of affairs.

>>90138329
Saying you watch female vtubers gets all the women to drop their panties doesn't it

>>90138439
>Kiara doomposting in members
Hasnt Kiara been doing that almost since debut though?

>>90129030
>The boys are totally taking all of the support away from the girls.
It was not a retarded rrat and it showed, there's even a list about it or do I have to remind you that the Niji-Holo collab ban was lifted when tempus appeared? yeah that's no fucking coincidence when Kiara was fighthing for them for more than a year then the blue fag comes out and says ''yeah, heh, we get the shit done'' when talking about the collab ban being lifted
The difference is that they are not being babysat anymore and have to face the cruel reality after Omegay left

>>90138419
You get used to it
He sent some shit into management for troubleshooting, four months later still no word on it, he requests they send it back to him, he fixes it in an hour

>>90128775
Deserved after the homos tried nijifying Holo.

>>90138439
I think Cover management needs a bully on the talent staff. It's one thing to complain because you're annoyed, but it's another to publicly ridicule people from a country that isn't used to it.
Most management in general usually deserves to be laughed at but because I'm invested in Cover management right now they'd make a great punchline.
You would just have to watch NDA.

>>90138450
I mean as a guy named joshua it does get the females drop their panties

>>90138450
At least girls can find something relatable to the girls, how the fuck can I relate to these pathetic faggots?

>>90138546
I wouldn't waste my time on homos either so I feel sympathy for the manager, forced to listen to this whiny retard every single day.

>>90128775
Seems like a nothing burger and a common frustration; Ina's anger over the visa issue is a lot worst and damning.

>>90128775
And I should care about this guy because…?

Why can't men ever behave themselves?

>>90138636
Bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do?
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

>>90138439
>fauna is so great she is now worth several ENs
zamn

>>90128775
Wouldn't be surprised if we get more graduation before the year ends

>>90138775
I hope so. I think all holostars should quit in solidarity. Would be a great christmas present.

>>90138580
Half of them are just dudes with varying levels of weeaboo and/or autism
Then you also get a massive sperg like Flayon, but he's also a female vtuber watcher, so there you go

>>90138439
I never understood this about the songs, WHY is an original made by cover and some dude they contracted have to be in Limbo for over 2 years? it doesn't make sense even for nip standards, what is holding a song hostage for so fucking long? if i'm not wrong the song is already done with MV already done too, WHY 2 YEARS... like fuck, someone explain this to me.

>>90138775
Yeah, Holostars graduating would be sooooo bad

>>90134118
Because magni is a retard and caused bettels hearing problems by inviting him on his side project which is why he is on a guerilla schedule

>>90138857
Japan may or may not be the technological archipelago we dream it to be.
Plus, they're aging. They may have been brilliant in their youth but they've got a dial up connection in their mind in an emerging field that would benefit from an ethernet connection.

>>90138055
afaik he doesnt know JP like at all either so... great collab Magni

>>90138949
Magni can give ear infections now? damn

>>90128775
Cover actually based for once. Just graduate these faggots and their dogshit branch already

>>90129499
>Gura out of nowhere
rent free sis

>>90132203
That was A manager, just her actual manager, you absolute retard

>>90129577
lol not now homosis

>>90128775
Reminder that the homos and their fans think it's Cover's fault the Stars branch is not more popular

>Do Yagoo expect them to perform the same as the girls to even give them anything?

>Somehow I see it as if they got punished for having slower growth than the other part of the company, so all the resources and "treat" went to them instead of the boys.

>The same definitely seems to be happening to Holostars, imo. Seriously, this company can somehow pull actual former AKB48 stars to join the girls, and can get the girls to play at actual MLB games and do songs for high-profile anime. How in the holy hell can't they even get dedicated concerts for the Stars boys?
>Hell, how haven't they had a Stars member come anywhere close to the 1M club?
>Feels like the Stars boys struggle to even pull up the same numbers as Iluna in their hayday (before December 2023 happened), which is frankly just INEXCUSABLE.

And finally, the punchline:
>I might be alone on this but I really wouldn’t mind if they somehow went on strike or something, ie no streaming, cause at this point it’s clear that the holostars management have learned nothing from Vesper and Magni.

You know what's sad as fuck? that the whole homo branch could be graduating and nobody would care except twitter and maybe reddit, they would blame the unicorns and then the question of ''ok, but why is their ccv so low if the only problem is the ''minority, are they not entertaining enough without the girls being there all the time?'' which will just devolve into a ''YOU SHOULD WATCH WOMEN SPORTS TOO IT'S YOUR DUTY!!'' kind of response and everyone would see that the beggars are just deranged fags.... there is no winning for stars.
>nobody cared for them
>nobody asked for them
>the only thing they get is people trying to guilt trip other people into watching them
it's honestly really fucking sad.

>>90139745

>>90139464
he can if he shares his dirty streaming equipment with bettel since his other workers in his school skits also uses those equipment's

>>90139745
>I might be alone on this but I really wouldn’t mind if they somehow went on strike or something, ie no streaming,
Kek

>>90139852
Good on Gura for showing solidarity for the boys

>>90139976
lol rent free

>>90139745
>Hell, how haven't they had a Stars member come anywhere close to the 1M club?
>Feels like the Stars boys struggle to even pull up the same numbers as Iluna in their hayday (before December 2023 happened), which is frankly just INEXCUSABLE.
Do they want cover to bot them or shit???

>>90139745
>Reminder that the homos and their fans think it's Cover's fault the Stars branch is not more popular
This is some schizo shit because everyone knows that Stars is Yagoo's pet project. The boys would not be around if he wasn't personally entertained by it and putting resources into making it work. They're not producing anything for the company so its no wonder that their resources are going away after Cover went public and the staff insulating them has been slowly peeled away.

>>90139976
Man, you retards can't stop thinking about Gura huh?

>>90139745
man homoniggers are fucking delusional

>>90139999
They want more
They need more

>>90133847
Ina is currently banned from streaming because Cover are retarded

>>90131042
>it just gets tiresome shitting on someone about the same thing for over 2 years
Did you forget the type of asylum we are currently posting in?

>>90140098
Management can be dumb but the homos are dumber

>>90139745
>Hell, how haven't they had a Stars member come anywhere close to the 1M club?
Leeching hololive was a mistake from the start. They should've gone the route of a separate fujo/yume/kpop style brand from the get go.

Oh hey, it's the sequel thread
>>89991746

>>90139747
they should have went with brotubers instead of the fujobaiting. unless they go full degenerate they have no chance against the Nijis on that field.

there are many 5view fleshtubers (even some 6views like Asmon), almost all brotubers.
there clearly is a market, but they are not tapping into that as long as they keep up the BL homoshit

>>90140062
>J-j-just a little bit more! They will incline!

>>90139996
No, some of them genuinely believe that it's Hololive's fault for not constantly showering them in collabs and this is why they stagnated (this isn't a surprise, most of their fans came from NijiEN where coed was practically enforced by management).
The Stars fandom doesn't have that organic growth and outreach that Hololive did, it always boils down to "If you don't watch Holostars then you're an incel/parasocial" and look at how well that did.
>>90139999
A lot of these people only started following them after NijiEN collapse earlier this year, they lack knowledge of a lot of Hololive/Cover's history.

>>90140098
Yes management is retarded, but how does it clarify that statement?

>>90140098
From what I heard from some other members it's more of the JP government's fault requiring a stricter work visa for them.

>>90128775
>talking bitterly about the company in a representative capacity like this
Jesus Christ homos are universally retarded.
>wahh the servant class isn't sufficiently attentive
I'd fucking phone it in too if I was supposed to polish a turd like this. Didn't this net resource drain just announce a giant break for muh mental health?

>>90140250
I invite you to watch a collab with 4 or more stars and then one with 4 more FSP and tell me who's REALLY fujo baiting.

https://x.com/regisaltare/status/1860686720653459502
He read the thread.

>>90128775
That's what "supporting the cause" gets ya, you blue faggot. Troonery is not acceptable.

>>90131042
>it just gets tiresome shitting on someone about the same thing for over 2 years
Biggest lie I've ever seen on /vt/

>>90140250
Nigga I watched the homos and they fucking blew it, especially with the mixed collabs, do I need to remind you that early on Altare talked about having a gf he didn't like but stayed with her just because her dad made a kick ass bbq? that doesn't sit well with the fujos, many of them from day 1 thought they could go the twitch route and fucked it up for everybody, Axel fucking flirting with zeta and her female manager? her female manager trying to feed hi, on stream? they are NOW pandering to fujos, but before these fags thought they were hot shit and deserved the world

>>90140365
lmao he’s trying so hard to cope

>>90140276
Beggars really think that we're saying management can do no wrong, when in reality we're saying the Homos were a mistake nobody wants and it fuckign shows.

>>90140365
Yes king! I will "support" you to go on strike to teach Cover a lesson!

>>90140335
>>talking bitterly about the company in a representative capacity like this
The company deserves it though.

>Clearly talking about how Cover screwed him over with this piece of equpment
>they held it for 4 months
>they lied about not being able to fix and even had dust on it
>said he fixed it in 1 hour
>/vt/ has to create an libary of shit for a narrative

hey regus just graduate or kys already, faggot. and take the rest of the homos with you

>>90140486
yeah but not from him or any of his fellow dreggs.

>>90130973
Here's the truth: men actually do like mixed gender collabs. They're not as loud on twitter but they do enjoy it and you can see that kind of feedback in threads, in comments, and the chat itself. They self-insert as the guy in the collab so they can pretend it's them collabing with their oshi (or fucking their oshi since men don't think about anything besides sex and see sex in everything). Altare is very easy to self-insert as. Very chill and easygoing guy who gets along with everyone, so men don't mind him collabing with their females and eventually they also enjoy ships of him and their oshi.

>>90140486
It doesn't matter what the company "deserves" you fucking retard. If Altare thought he had it bad before he can see where shit talking them on his company account gets him.

>>90131224
Sounds a lot like this board.

>>90140620
quality bait

We hate Homostars glad people relize the sexpest they are

>>90140679
If it's bait then why did you respond? You replied, so it must have at least some semblance of truth to it.

>>90140755
you are a pedophile, quite literally you rape defenceless children

>>90140365
I hope he did.

>>90128775
I’m going to be a management bootlicker. July is Tempus’ anniversary meaning management was busy. Then there was the issue with the orisong that needed to be fixed and it took weeks to do so. It makes sense why they didn’t do anything in July. I also think some of this falls on Altare for being passive. If he did not hear back from them, why didn’t he follow up with them sooner? I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say maybe he did ask them about it during those 4 months of waiting. He’s the same guy who asked for Binding of Isaac perms for a year and some odd months. With that said, they still could have done something as soon as they were able to and not have it sitting there for months.

>>90140620
Rider, what are you doing here?

>>90128775
I’m going out to celebrate if by the end of the year, the homo branch disbands

>>90140620
Calm down homoshitter, the only people he have collab with post 2 homo death are ID and prerecorded video are not even a collab.

>>90138857
Okayu, as of late october of 2022, said her second song with ryushen was almost finished, missing only the MV part for it to be complete, and that they expected it to be finished early january (2023)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-XzI4wI4nI
>2023-12-17
Before her vacation in 2022, she said she had 8 songs ready, yet despite that, a collaboration song, which one would assume would be given priority in the queue, was pushed until December 2023
It's not just an EN thing

>>90140943
>Management is not perfect!! do NOT be passive!! - Suisei

>>90128775
this guy is a fag but cover management is extremely incompetent and most of them need to be fired. have you guys really forgotten ina's visa shit this fast?

>>90140620
Cucks from SEA don't count as men

>>90140620
weird cuck fan fiction but ok

>>90141364
While management being incompetent is true, this fag and fiends has no right to complain about anything.

>>90141364
That was Ina's fault

>>90138955
It is just as it happens everywhere in the world, in all sectors
An aged, historically selfish and selfrighteous demographic of dinosaurs that refuse to change their ways, adapt to the new technologies and sensibilities and give way to the younger generations while complaining about them, those same dinosaurs also only react when forced to because their own stubborness is hurting heir wallet

>>90137969
>Two of the biggest holos numberwise

>>90141487
hololive fanboys are even worse than console war fags back in the day holy shit. the company can never do wrong in your eyes

>>90140943
Management has proven repeatedly that they are borderline malicious with their level of incompetence. This is one instance out of a hundred. And yes, the girls get fucked over in exactly the same manner all the time. In fact what happened to Altare isn't even close to the worst incident.

They are fucking lucky that the people who have the balls to complain about it are usually not popular enough to cause a backlash (or even get victim blamed for being "entitled"). Closest thing we had was Ina with the Visa fiasco. Imagine if Gura did it.

>>90129499
The fuck do you want management to do when Gura is a lazy whore? Make her stream at gun point?

>>90142351
its her JOB isnt it? if she cant stream she should at least be obligated to tell fans she's on a hiatus.
They know what theyre doing by preying on people with attachment issues, and its cruel to just leave people in the dark like that.

>>90142276
>The fanbase that coined the term manigger are corpo apologists

>>90142424
You're right anon, Gura should be more appreciative to her fans but that still has nothing to do with management.

>>90142424
>please give the “muh black company” shitlords legs to their argument by forcing Gura to care about her fans

>>90142489
putting out a statement is just proper business etiquette

>>90142606
Well, clearly Gura doesn’t feel like it.

>>90142351
If I were her own direct fucking manager myself, you bet your ass I'll hire as many private detectives as it is necessary to find her location, sneak into her house and beat the everliving shit out of her for not streaming unless she's going through actual, signed and documented medical impairment that doesnt let her fucking stream
Had I the goose with the golden eggs under my direct supervision and it fucking refused to do the bare fucking minimum you bet your ass I'm whipping it into shape or fucking die trying, she has the capability to make everyone fucking filthy rich, yet there she lays, a massive, COLOSSAL waste of potential, an absolute money making machine catching dust, and I then have to answer to my superiors "WHERE ARE THE FUCKING GOLDEN EGGS"
It is astounding how they just let her fucking wallow in her own sloth when she could fucking redeem her entire gen reputation
There's just no logic answer to this

/vt/ is really easy, just use their arrogance and polarize them and they themselves will enable the same retards that will go after their oshi once they are bored. The oh so great fans being played by browns. Well, events like the elections and povertyball have taught me is that most of them are brown too

>>90131034
>I guess that's why Ame left.
Ame left because she didn't want to keep being an idol and carried all the tech stuff for cover. She was already burning up since 2021, but point stands. Vtuber managers are stupid. Randon is an even bigger retard however

Holodrones really do be cutting off their nose to spite their face

male holos have never been given a fair shake
Cover has a big sexism problem

>>90131241
>The HoloEN branch top streamers aren't streaming, one just got fed up of it and left. This isn't healing.
Did you seriously say ame was a top streamer? Gura has been MIA for the entirety of 2023-24 also.

>>90142769
ogey /pol/fags

>>90140811
>resorts to making shit up because he has no argument
Why are males like this? How embarrassing.

>spoiled homos not getting special treatment from muh Omega daddy anymore
>whined about it like a woman
>THIS IS WHY AME LEFT
>THIS IS WHY AQUA LEFT
Lol

>>90142986
They honestly expect anyone to care about the homos after Omega burnt any good will they had left, which wasn’t very much to begin with.

>>90133475
I genuinely have never given a shit about Zeta and the Nodoka stuff is forgotten

>>90141418
This whole board talks about cuck fanfiction every single day so it fits right in perfectly. My post shouldn't incite any anger because it's the truth.

>>90128775
It's how some jp companies work. they won't fire you for unknown reasons but make you quit yourself by doing nothing for you. he isn't needed.

>>90143055
I think /pcg/ is more your speed, fag.

>>90135348
>>90136736
This is a more valid complaint that i can give, and the bigger reason why Ame fucked off

>>90142763
wasn't Gura insanely lazy as Senz too? Kinda getting into the obvious here. I think it was hilarious how Gura was trying to alienate new fans when they debuted (Bijou/Ceci/Gigi) by fucking streaming out of the blue. Then again, I guess being able to stream makes her jealous. Little blue sharkie can't stream now, her tummy too h0rt to make a chance to play a dumb game, but she can stream when a new generation might take her precious breadcrumbs.

>>90143051
>Omega
>Quitters
>Support the cause
>You're welcome here
>Hololive supports LGBTQ
>Pagpag's "Im not fucking mad they segregate me from the girls" heel spiel
When you think they cant get worse, BAM
Just fucking can them already, they're a lost cause, they're just going to cause something big at some point at this pace

>>90143235
Wasnt she straeming with flow glow around the corner, which just happened to have another loliish girl (Su)?

Shitting on management is a time honored tradition. Especially publically since it sets fire to their asses. Also hilarious to see all the short sighted morons in this thread.

>>90143557
management in general is dumb. rejecting the koshien idea from aqua but allowing it later with koyori because koyori had to say "it'll work" is insane

>>90141313
lmao how can cover work like this
they have to be ruled by ineffective middle management that cant be fired due to retarded nip laws

>>90143235
she was an alcoholic druggie

>>90146307
>was
That explains a lot of things, honestly

>>90132364
I don't remember Ame's internet in the past being that bad like the last weeks.