/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

EN Jump Queen Back at it again

>>89717979
>>89717986
>Tower of Suffering
She's in such a good mood after clearing it (twice), its hilarious

>>89718104
>>89716522
Im gonna fucking McFucking lose it if I dont complete everything before the next update

A word of warning: if you fire a worker in HoloHouse without collecting their coins first, the coins are lost.

If I spend all my usadachips, can I buy 1k more from the front?
Is this a good way of fully upgrading a fighter/racer if I have an almost unlimited source of holocoins from grinding out golden fish?

>>89718493
You can, but you won't be able to max a worker this way since upgrade costs go up by 50 each point used.

>>89718639
I wonder if it would be worth it then to get them up and to the max available with 1k usadachips and then bet on them

Finally. Took me 4 hours and 13 minutes.

I've never played Jump King in my life. And I never plan to.

For the pit, should I prioritize my points into stamina over attack?

Man im surprised fan letters stats dont show you how much you have overall, come on kay yu

>>89719793
I went 30/25 HP/ATK, though I think having a little more HP than ATK than even that is optional.

>>89720009
Optimal*

>>89719803
Yeah feels a little nebulous if we can't see the total buffs

>>89719803
Instead of yet another collection of small stat up bullshit this should've been sort of like a pokedex for collection/completionist purposes only. There are way too many modifiers and stat systems in the game already, what an absolute clusterfuck. This will only make new updates harder to develop as the chances of things breaking grow exponentially.

How does a beetle take a shit 4 times the size of its body

Man that did not work out as I hoped.
The size buff is very fun but it doesn't affect Ao-Chan as far as I could tell, only regular weapons.
And lifesteal just more or less stopped working against the yagoo horde, not sure why. Doesn't it proc on attack, once per second?

>grind slots for 1 hour
>buy a cat
>it shits twice in the span of a minute
accurate

Hows your collection looking, whats the rarest one you have? Is there one for a Yagoo?

>>89721523
I just got halloween Bae, also have A-chan and Area 15.

>>89721523
I got Nanora on my first run when the update came out playing as Nnnnaaa, not sure how rare she is. Also got achan.

>>89721523
I'm slowly working on it.

Wait, are the fan letters permanent buffs universal to all characters?

>>89722017
Yes, very OP.

so you cant actually time the slots right? its looks like pure RNG

What's the coin build

>>89723392
1-weapon Marine with greed stamp, piggy, breastplate, Headphones and SCT got me like 3.5M, but I can't figure out how to get her to actually survive against yagoo much because I stop getting kills at 24 minutes.

did irys get nerfed? I'm trying to do nomove with irys on endless myth or treat stage and I have to keep moving to not die

>>89723729
>irys
>nomove
what, did you mean Sana or Fauna, those are the typical nomoves

>>89723913
haven't played for a while, but on release irys was the best tank in the game

the double heal have lower drop rate or something? I rarely see it

Is luna's playstyle literally just standing still?

>>89720745
I think its more like a character wide minor version of the golden eggs from VS

>>89720745
i personally like the idea but its a bit of a mess, it doesnt help that you have to play endless for most 20min boss drops too

Nice, I hit 1k hp, wonder if a change in build would make me even more resilient to dying as standing still

>>89724664
Leech stamp heals based on % so the heals would be pretty massive.

does anyone know what font holocure uses?

>>89724858
15% per second, yeah maybe that would do better

>>89725053
I wasn't getting them per second on my last run, my weapon's slow but the area really should have guaranteed procs so not sure what was up with that. In other runs with other characters like mairine it does heal massively though.

Do any of th super collabs benefit from high haste?

>>89724494
yep just confirmed myself

>using the special while the timer on the devil hat is still up fucks up with the timer
The time bugs out and I'm not sure if it's stacking, adding more time or just showing some extra time without the effect going.

>>89726186
Jingisukan? Extra damage and healing. Pretty good on characters that proc on heal like Fauna.

>grind out Hololite Prism (~2-3 hours)
>become functionally invincible

How does the training work? Why this two followers of similar quality have stats so wildly differents?

>>89726734
probably the 2nd(?) strongest super collab and i almost never use it, whoops

how do I build Marine?

>>89727500
multi-hit = good
more hits = more coins

Why is this the final stamp to drop like half the time? Useless.

>>89728077
Do the mushrooms heal?

>>89723980
No, she was never a tank, nevertheless the best. That was Ina.

>>89728188
They don't even do anything, when you touch them, you "kick" them away and they float off the screen lol.

Winners of this update
>AZKi
>Bae
>Noel
>Towa

>>89726986
They are both the same though, the level 48 has 54 (25+15+14) total stat points, and the level 46 has 52 (30+15+7) total stat points. Each level gives 1 more stat point.

>>89728433
14 is the number of battles. What I mean, the first one only has an avaible level point but has 5 hp less than the second that has 6 levels.

>>89728558
Oh, you probably spent points on racing. Both racing + pit fight share points.

why is this still a thing
why give a super drop a fucking downside

>>89728717
Spoiler that shit, scary as fuck

>>89728850
Who cares, it's not even a problem

>>89728717
Im gonna hack Kay yu's steam account and change Flare's weapon to a bow and arrow and make her skin even darker.

>>89728798
Kill me...

>>89728077
It's fucking stupid that stamps are weighted. Make them truly random or let people influence them in some way.

>>89729361
nta but you can reset it right?

>>89728317
>Towa
I thought she's bad?

>>89729160
it literally fucks with your aim, its not worth 30% crit

>>89729740
I just got it on a Pekora run and other than making my mouse cursor jiggle a little bit, it had no effect on my aim at all.

Maybe controllercucks get fucked, but that's a good thing. KYS controller users.

>>89729740
It jiggles slightly from side to side
This ain't fuckin' Apex, it's not a big deal

>>89717773
I think theres a size limit. my weapons stopped getting bigger around 600 pickup range+sana stamp+sana skill

Jingusuikan is great and all but does it help against yagoo when you're forced to run away?

>>89718254
Oh fucking joy. I SO love love it when my comfy games are getting hijacked by ragebait slop.

Damn got a minute farther but this isn't the strat.
Not sure I was even proccing Jingu healing or leech stamp healing enough at the end. Do healing numbers disappear when there's too much shit onscreen?

>>89731412
Literally just don't play the entirely optional content.

>>89731449
Which girl can reach the 40+min mark?

>>89731689
just randomly saw this tweet, he made it to 40:06

>>89731689
wrong pic

>>89724355
yes. every item has a weight that determines how often they show up
https://holocure.wiki.gg/wiki/Item

So what is the best/fastest way to get tokens in the casino?
Spamming slots?

>>89728850
It's funny

>bet all my coins into the fight pit
>they all ignore each other and spam me to death
>lose everything
t-thanks...

>>89732153
not necessarily the fastest, but...

>>89732511
Why not use cheat engine at that point?

>>89732187
i know its 100% kay yu's sense of humor, im just bothered its the only "super" item with a "downside" no matter how you look at it. im being autistic about it but its not the biggest deal

>>89732153
Read previous threads

>>89732600
How is clicking the button the game lets you click, cheating? Slots are literally just that.

>>89732263
Everytime you won a match the next one the CPU focus on your worker. It resets with every lose.

Man, this jump king game is fucking ass. I knew I'd hate real jump king, so I never played it, but I think this controls even worse than real jump king. You can walk, and even hitting both the direction and the jump button in the same frame means you still take a tiny step which is enough to walk off of platforms without starting a jump. Plus the number of frame perfect jumps in the 60-70% section. People have beaten this in like 3 or 7 minutes or whatever, I'm not those people, and I'm probably never going to become those people.

There are also much harder vampire survivors clones, and holocure wasn't meant to be super brutally difficult, but with this jump garbage I feel like even three times the checkpoints wouldn't be too easy. I know I'm bad, but I am just really not having fun. Is this punishment for the players for no one liking his holo x break shit?

>>89733252
I liked Holo x Break. I played it with my buds.

>>89733252
>Is this punishment for the players for no one liking his holo x break shit?
no it was just a way for him to get extra callouts from calli and whoever else got references in there

>>89733252
If Flare can ignore the fishing minigame because she doesn't like a fish, you can ignore the tower minigame because you don't like jumping.

are there recommended builds on the wiki or anywhere? I always end up going for the same collabs/super collabs and it's getting kinda stale

>>89733517
I've beaten every stage with every character (well, before this update), and before this update the only thing I hadn't finished was all golden fish, which I was slowly chipping away. I'm too autistic to ignore it, but I'm also way too frustrated to enjoy it.

I get the sense the same thing happened with holo x break, where his group of friends/playtesters got so used to the game they were surprised by how other people received it. Honestly, even tripling checkpoints feels like it wouldn't be enough for bads like me. I know I'm bad, and this isn't even as hard as vanilla jump king (bad controls notwithstanding), but I didn't buy jump king.

Wow, Sora is really good at HoloCure.

Flare with high haste and maxxed out main weapon kinda looks like she's pissing all over the map ngl.

>>89733517
Also, fact is, this tower is like 20% of the new content we got this update. I wish he'd just made it another standalone game if he wanted to do a hololive jump king clone, he already did that for his pet beatemup. I guess the problem there was that no one played it after day 1 except this guy >>89733336.

It doesn't seem he even wants to work on holocure anymore, only side content now, with the ckia grinding, casino, and jump tower. Over a year between updates and it only added one new weapon, two new collabs with that weapon, and one new super collab. The nine characters was good and all, as well as the standard stage + hard mode, but in terms of changes to the core game this was the smallest update and it took the longest. Also the new stages don't really add new mechanics except the Ollie math thing - the lightning is nice but it's more a gear check than anything.

>>89728717
So is the clownfish just gone now? The funniest possible way to deal with this issue would have been to make it so playing as Flare and only playing as Flare made the clownfish never show up.

>>89734261
idk, im appreciating this buff to elf song (it got moved from 10 kills to 5), she's definitely on the high end

elf song is a little weird to tune with it being based on fireball and skill kills.

>>89734312
Retarded way of looking at things. Firstly, holohouse wasn't even a finished feature to begin with, everything you want to dismiss as mere side content is making holohouse more fleshed out and fun, which is a good thing. The entire gameplay loop is meant to give you a break from the stages or the gacha and stat menus to farm in other ways that are more relaxed in nature.

>>89734432
Where are the patch notes for the latest changes?

So who's the best and worst among the new characters? Also out of all the adjustments on previous holos, who's the best right now?

How to unlock Mumei's Bird Feathers weapon?

>>89733252
just do what i did and copy a video's jump arcs
>>89734623
Flare and Towa feel kind of weak compared to someone like noel or coco but i would have to play them more. lunas buff doesnt work on harder stages that force you to move, and the best is your your favorite

>>89734312
>anon finds out what warframe players have had to endure since 2014

>>89734533
I don't have a problem with holohouse, and the additions except jump king are fine. Even the rhythm game for fishing, which I also don't really like, is undertuned enough that I can do well enough at it even if I'm not a fan.

>The entire gameplay loop is meant to give you a break from the stages or the gacha and stat menus to farm in other ways that are more relaxed in nature.
Doesn't apply to the jump king stuff. If anything, jump king is more intense than the base game. If it had infinite checkpoints or were a lot easier, I'd probably be less annoyed, but even if it's not as hard as vanilla jump king, it's a lot harder and more precise than any platformer I've played before, because I don't particularly seek out difficult platformers.

The jump king stuff is like if there were, say, an update to counterstrike that gave you a new skin if you reached gold or platinum or whatever in starcraft 2. Sure, that's not actually a hard achievement for people who are good at RTS games, and you could just ignore the achievement and the cosmetic reward, but that's just a pretty bad feeling.

>>89732153
Arena is the best, but you need a high level worker
Racing is similar to the arena except slower because of the lower maximum bets/winning prize
Slots is slow but reliable if you AFK and use an autoclicker
Blackjack is the best if you don't have any high level workers for the arena/race, but you need to be lucky or save scum (the AI can easily fuck you over though)

>>89734623
From the ones I tried so far:
>Noel > Coco > Katana > Flare > Pekora > Luna

>>89733252
I find it cool that Kay just coded Jump King in a week because he felt like it, but man I just hate the fact that it's Jump King. Why the fuck does that game even exist. I get that it's supposed to be a rage game for streamers to scream at (I still have fond memories of Laplus playing it) but why does it have to have some of the worst controls a platformer has ever seen, holy fuck, even the Holocure version adding a charge bar doesn't make it better. I just fucking hate it so much and now I hate it even more because it's a(n optional) part of a game I enjoy. Just knowing it's there sours my mood.

Is there a way to check the names? Find myself / see if I got into the game / try to remember what I put as my oshi? I saw someone saying you could just open the hex editor, but come on now.

>>89734623
>Good
- Marine : Money maker
- Noel : Literally invincible
- Watame : Unlimited healing
- Coco : 80% Atk for free and Holy Fire lifesteal
>Okayish
- Pekora : Way worse money maker than Marine
- Kanata : Needs Plague to proc Gorilla on non-boss
- Luna : Gaining Spd while standing still for some reason
>Bad
- Flare : Fire Magic can't reliably kill mobs late game, which in turn making Elf Song not proccing so it's like she doesn't have 2 skills at that point
- Towa : Only good at bursting down bosses, does literally nothing everywhere else

>>89735069
>but why does it have to have some of the worst controls a platformer has ever seen
Not that I've played it (I am the one you were responding to), but I'm pretty sure vanilla jump king has better controls than the holocure version because you can't accidentally walk off platforms. For the most part that makes the game easier, not harder, except in the stages with wind.

Even after 5 hours I still don't have a good handle on how the jumping works. It still feels like jumps require way more precision than I feel like I actually have control over. The difference between smacking into the side of the platform and blasting past it feels like it doesn't leave enough room.

>>89735154
>- Luna : Gaining Spd while standing still for some reason
she has to stop to catch her breath

>>89735069
At least he is removing it from the 100% Steam achievement list. So it isn't like he isn't aware that it is polarizing content that some people rather not do.

I clutched and grabbed the fan letter right as the stage ended.

>>89735242
The thing is, he added checkpoints, so he knew this wouldn't be received well and he needed to nerf it. I just think he was in an echo chamber that told him it was a great idea and people would love it, and he was probably looking forward to all the girls playing it, but he severely overestimated how well it would be received. Three checkpoints before the absolutely brutal section at 67-70% with multiple frame perfect jumps just tells me he made the same mistake he did with holo x break not having a save system. He and his buddies were completing runs in 30 minutes, so everyone else will too.

It should have just been its own game. Apparently he was talking about adding more expansions for it later, which just makes it sound like he'd rather work on this than holocure.

kek twittard actually getting asshurt they can't 100% the game because of jump king

Okay this math shit in the new hard mode is just taking a knife and jamming it down my pisshole, did people troll the dev for the game being too easy, and he did the usual add an assache nightmare mode to ruin everyone but the sweatiest player's day thing that devs seem to love doing these days??

Can't pause or equation resets, can't stop moving, have to turn off dmg read outs so numbers aren't bombarding the screen while you try to do math, fucks you over if the boss spawns and you're at the edge of the map

flare hate clownfish cause they're trans?

>>89735464
Checkpoints should have been either 50 coins or cost a lot more while letting you use your full money (maybe also increasing for every checkpoint you place). At least that way it would blend in better with the rest of the game, if you can't stand the bizarre jumping mechanics then grind a few money runs and then go back there.

what's a good afk farming build? rather not autoclicker the casino

>>89733252
Jump king part is the first time in like 20 years where I've actually felt zero shame about cheating and editing the saves. It's not the kind of genre that respects my time, so I don't feel bad about disrespecting it back.

>>89733252
just don't play it? I don't even do fishing and all the holohouse shit and I can enjoy the game just fine

>>89734888
how do you do the arena
ive just been using a script to spam enter on the slots and its pretty slow. like 100k every 30minutes or so
i tried a bunch of builds thinking arena would be good with the max bid but i have no idea how to win this consistently, i always get fucked

>>89735832
If it were it's own game, I wouldn't play it. But I didn't play holo x break either and kay yu didn't want this to go unplayed too, so he forced it into holocure and required it for 100% completion.

>>89735805
Honestly I'm thinking of doing that myself. I restarted from scratch (filtered by the jumps at 70-75% when my last checkpoint was ~66%), to move my checkpoints up. If I had ten checkpoints instead of three at that point, I think I would've been annoyed but I'd at least be able to make progress. I can do any of the jumps - though even after 5 hours the controls don't feel good - but I can't consistently do 50 in a row with no mistakes.

>>89717773
The detail on that armpit though

>>89723392
just put on your oshi and fish for a few hours honestly. its far better than doing runs. took me around 10h or so to afford all the legendary scam items from the casino

>>89735265
Yeah I think this is poor design, boss letters should be automatically picked up, I've missed out on Smol Ame, the Robot, and A-chan so far, managed to get Halloween Bae by sheer luck of standing right on top of her when she died.

>>89734812
>but that's just a pretty bad feeling.
No anon you're simply too autistic.
They even removed the achievement so people wouldn't feel like they had to go through it. Just look up the spoiler for who the cute girl at the top is and give it a rest.

Play what you want and how you want, stop treating games like they're a chore you need to fully carry out.

>>89735805
You cheated and edited the save to get an achievement and nothing else.
Reevaluate your priorities.

>>89737041
Which line of code do you edit, I don't wanna touch that shit.

>>89736948
>They even removed the achievement so people wouldn't feel like they had to go through it.
The achievement is still there, did he say he was going to remove it?

> stop treating games like they're a chore you need to fully carry out
What makes you think I do this? I certainly said nothing of the sort. I don't complete most games, only if it's fun to do so. Holocure was fun to complete, now it isn't fun to do so anymore. I was challenging myself to do every character on every stage even if there was no steam achievement for it, same for getting all the golden fish (that one was on the backburner). Whether I play it or not, whether it has an achievement or not, there's going to be this big section of the game (that he's planning on expanding) that is just meant to be bad to get reactions from streamers, when I previously was enjoying this game without caveats.

This is already the smallest update yet in terms of the core game, and he's going to get a lot of reactions from the girls out of this. Is he going to add more ragebait gimmick shit instead of working on the game in future updates? Probably. It's like a game having microtransactions or gacha, sure, you can ignore it, but even if you don't personally take part it's still going to be there. The entire thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and if you don't get that you aren't autistic enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmGNOhgu0F0

AIEEEEEEEEE

>>89737275
shitposting doubters btfo

>>89736636

All right what the fuck do I build on Luna?

>>89736928
Play endless

>>89737264
>that is just meant to be bad to get reactions from streamers
Or maybe he just thought it'd be fun to program a platforming section and decided to do Jump king, like he said in his post. It's like some schizo crying because time is spent in adding holos he doesn't like instead of getting to the ones he does.
Also retarded comparison, microtransactions exist in games to encourage purchases, and this is shit because devs have an incentive to make the game less fun so people buy the workaround. The jump king segment is literally inconsequential for core game progress, and just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean others won't.

>I was challenging myself to do every character on every stage
This isn't a challenge, it's a grind.

>>89737275
Kay should patch the clownfish back in just before her stream starts

>>89737409
Haste and then fish for the stamp that stuns I guess
Defense and other damage buffers so you can stay at melee range to trigger CiJ should help too, as well as the dagger+axe collab

>>89737453
Wait, what?
He removed Clownfish? Why?

>>89737443
At this point he's effectively made two games (holo x break, and now holojump king) from the ground up instead of working on holocure, and he spent far more time this update adding side content. The side content is becoming as much the game as the "core game" now.

>This isn't a challenge, it's a grind.
Honestly some of them were on s3h halu 5. Though yeah, for most characters on most stages it didn't really matter. Haven't finished everyone on s5/s4h yet.

>>89724615
I got Nodoka on stage mode. It teleported to me before the game ended.

>>89737609
Because Flare is autistic

>>89737609
https://x.com/shiranuiflare/status/1858127358903120112
Clownfish disgusted her

>>89737769
https://www.youtube.com/live/GSBi_gJEisE?t=56m21s

>>89737609
Flare has a phobia of them. Apparently she got sent some kinda chain letter shock image sent to her when she was younger that had a clownfish on it. So clownfish triggers her memories of that. She wouldn't go anywhere near the Holohouse portion and so Kay changed the Clownfish to Mackerel so she could play her character and go to all sections of the game.

Is looking up collabs cheating

>>89737443
>The jump king segment is literally inconsequential for core game progress
The more dev time it receives (and we already know it's going to), the less time the core game gets. That anon's comparison to gacha was meant to say that this part is inevitably going to start eating more resources and attention, eventually becoming the main focus. Only meaningful difference is it just steals attention instead of fleecing money from people.

>>89737879
Honestly my point was more that it changes the game. Gacha is worse, and directly incentives the devs to make the game worse to sell the solution, but this does it indirectly. If the ragebait is received well, or he likes the attention, it means he's incentivized to put in more ragebait to get more attention. He already plans to add new "DLC" for the tower.

I'd be fine if he just made it a different game.

>>89737864
No, but it's probably more fun to find most of them yourself. I'd only resort to looking them up when there are only a few left since brute-force searching for the last one or two is a pain.

Wow it worked!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmGNOhgu0F0

Kay Yu, for the love of all that is good and holy, please turn down Coco's ability's item drops! I can't see literally fucking anything! A stamp or anvil drops and I can't tell where!

>play the math quiz
>216 % 12 = ??
>0 isn't an option
what is this scam

>>89738166
There should be an expiration time for them, half the time the stupid bitch doesn't even throw the item

>>89738209
It's pretty alarming when the dev doesn't know the difference between modulus and division

>>89738213
She'll throw the item, but only if there's an enemy within range for her to target. The problem is when you kill them too fast to throw. If you don't throw the item, you can't pick up the next one. Rather than give them an expiration timer, I think ones far away from her should disappear and there should be a max limit on the amount there can be at once. That way there's always some on hand and you won't be cucked by a bike half a mile away you didn't grab.

>>89738166
>kay yu please nerf coco for no reason
try not playing on stage 1

Has anyone bought a shitload of Usada Casino Drinks yet?
I noticed every one I buy pops up behind the counter, does anything cool happen if you get a ton of them?

>>89738306
Pekomama gets drunk and you get to rape her

>>89738317
Now that's the kind of side content I support.

>>89719803
I just made my own spreadsheet to track it

>>89724519
I just did this frustrating shit to unlock the 20% fan letter buff, don't think I'm going to go back. 770 wins per 2% stat increase does not feel worth the frustration

>>89736416
Use ranged worker
Spam retreat and try to survive until most other enemies are dead and then kill the last remaining survivor(s) with your special
Exit to main menu and reenter the casino to reset the arena and go again (if you don't reset, on the next match all the enemies will gang up on you).

>>89732760
retard

>>89738633
What do you mean 770 wins per 2% stat increase?
Also I thought getting the Casino Coins for the Rabbit Foot and all the pets/effects was really quick and easy.
Did you make sure to lose a match on purpose after every win? It's pretty much impossible to win twice in a row since the AI will always focus you if you won the last match. So just do a base bid Beginner match with a Lv1 worker to lose on purpose between the 50k Champion ones.
I had like 24 wins to 2 losses with my 40HP/15Atk Ranged Worker by the time I bought everything.

is the slots guaranteed money?

>>89738241
Playtesters mistook the ÷ symbol as + so they used % instead, also apparently some people doesn't know what / is in math so that's why they didn't use that symbol either.

>>89721272
Yeah, it doesn't effect Azki's Geo-Zones either. Guess I'm gonna try a Healing Build so she can Turtle in them. It might be good on Noel but 60% is Maxium Size.

>>89738836
Yeah I don't know what the fuck he's going on about there, even regular people understand "1/2" and "1/4". If they're capable of doing grade school math, I think they'd be able to get it.

>>89738761
They are heavily rigged in your favor and ontop of that half of your coins spent are added to the bonus payout so you get them back when you inevitably hit the Jackpot.
There's no way to lose money with them unless you leave it at a few spins and leave.

>>89738836
That's fucking stupid. Who doesn't know that / is division but instantly recognizes what their improper use of % is meant to be?
I usually respect his design decisions even if I don't necessarily agree with them, like not wanting to give hard numbers or showing damage breakdowns for runs and so on, but this is just plain retardation.

>>89738836
Who the hell doesn't understand the / sign in maths?

>>89738836
i understood the % but i still hate the math minigame

>>89739013
I hate it's controls. Aiming for the correct nousagi takes a ton more effort than solving the puzzle.

>>89739066
The controls in general, especially on gamepad, could use more options to tweak.

>>89739066
yes exactly just let me fucking select it

>>89738601
>Shikko
Oshikko hehe

>>89726445
>no prism nor catching net
you could've made it easier
but I applaud you anyway

>>89738633
Anon the stat increase items is bought with HoloCoins, not Casino Chips.
Yes, that means you need to spend 77M HoloCoins for one of them. You could technically reliably farm 2~3M an Endless run with Marine, which means around 40 runs of them at max for only one of them.
It was probably possible to convert the Casio Chips back to HoloCoins back in their testing stage similar to being able to buy more than 1k chips max, but they somehow scrapped it.

>>89736657
huh? you have to buy casino items with carrots

>pekodam letter drops
>im on stage mode and the end screen doesnt let me grab it
fuck

>>89739330
He's talking about HoloCoins. Not the Casino Carrots.

>>89738633
Just go fishing for HoloCoins.
It stops getting faster after Lv7 but your Bonus Fish keep increasing indefinitely so as long as you don't fall asleep and fuck up the chain you can get hundreds of fish per catch after a while.

On the top end you can get like 10m Coins in a very lucky Endless Run with one of the good farming characters like Marine.
If you dedicate a few hours and drive your chain up into the 1000+ range those same same 40-something minutes will get you 100m+ Coins.
It's not something you can just quickly do for a little while though, you need to build the chain first so the longer you go the more the payoff scales, so if you want to save as much time as possible you'd want to just dedicate a day to fishing and make enough money to buy out all the Legendary Casino items in one go.

HELP ME BUILD MARINE
NOW

>>89739629
at 1000 chain you get almost 200m/h with golden rod fuck doing that manually though lmao i just use the bot

>>89739859
I dunno, but get Membership. I feel like it's insane not to get that on Marine, it's such an obvious choice.

>>89739859
It's very obvious. You don't need anything special
Just cook the meal that gives extra coins and obviously grab Halu and Super Chatto Time

>>89739859
Lock all weapons, cook for extra Coins, play Endless, get Halu and luck into the Super version of Super Chatto Time as early as possible.
It's that easy. Super Super Chatto Time will boost your damage so fucking much you can one shot YAGOOs for a very long time if you get it at the start of your run.

Fishing is busted.
I did a ~10 hour session before the update dropped and could just instantly buy out the entire shop.

>>89738956
average people are more retarded than you think

My Marine Build is usually Membership, Pig, Chatto, IBL, then whatever. Probably Wall for some survivability

>>89740681
so how does % make it better?
even less people would figure that out because it's literally never used for division by anyone outside of this game

holy shit just finished stage 4 hard. the music, the atmosphere, the adrenaline.... it was kino

>>89741109
The math boss ruins it. Kaela being a boss who's pretty tough was a great choice but fuck the math part, it makes me not want to replay it.

https://github.com/TemariVirus/Holocure-Auto-Fishing-Bot?tab=readme-ov-file
this thing work for anyone?

>>89741197
nah i don't mind the math, at worst you can ignore it. i got few question wrong and i didn't die

I feel like character cosmetics are such an obvious thing to add, especially when looking at Jump King for inspiration, as a reward for completing challenges.
Like it makes way more sense to show off an achievement with a fun little hat that you can see while playing, than a decoration for the holohouse that you'll probably only ever look at once or twice

>doing my don't move run
>two fan letters with only 2 minutes left
How rare are those again? I feel like I see at least 1 a run but seeing 2 right in front of me is making me highly consider just throwing the run

>>89741210
i used that one on 0.7 and it worked great
dunno if its updated

>>89741706
>a fun little hat that you can see for the first 5 minutes while playing
ftfy

>>89741807
yeah I used it as well back then
but since the update it says settings wasn't formatted correctly

>>89741210
>>89741807
>>89741850
>https://github.com/TemariVirus/Holocure-Auto-Fishing-Bot/releases/tag/1.3.4
I downloaded this and it works but randomly broke my chain after like 15 minutes not sure if that's just how it is or not never used it before

>>89740797
To be honest, the % is simple to figure out from the context. Think about it - what other math operation is there in close proximity with addition, subtraction and multiplication in a game where the main target audience maintains a belief that 10+9=21? I doubt most people consciously thought about it like that, but a regular human brain's pattern recognition is enough to infer it.
Kay Yu should've done proper fractions anyway, it would've avoided the entire issue with the symbol and be a lot more readable overall.

>>89742044
I mean yeah, I figured it out after a few seconds of wondering what the fuck he's expecting, but that doesn't change the fact that it's just plain wrong and misleading.
He could have used "a" for "addition" instead of the + sign and it unironically would have made more logical sense than using % for division, that's simply not a thing.

>>89741894
huh it works for me now

Why is flare so autistic?

>>89738306
After 10 it glitches

>>89738306
>>89622015

>>89732153
lose 5~6 blackjacks with lowest bet then all in next round

always all in after dealer blackjack

>>89742776
shes better this way

>>89743247
Blackjack has some riggwing AI? Why...

>>89743402
dev thinks it's funny

you have 1% chance of beating watame with miko in jokenpo, it's impossible to win 4 races in a row, etc...

>>89743484
>it's impossible to win 4 races in a row
It is definitely possible to win 4 races in a row. A worker with 11 stamina and 38 speed will win championship 5 100% of the time without fail.

>>89740013
>>89740111
If you don't get super chatto, solo weapon marine can't kill pre-yagoo enemies at a reasonable pace in endless and stops levelinfg early.

>>89743542
>A worker with 11 stamina and 38 speed will win championship 5 100% of the time without fail.
is this true what the fuck am i doing the pit fights for

>>89743740
Apparently pit fights earn you more per hour, but with more randomness. But I can say that two workers with 11 stamina and 38 speed can win championship race #5 every time and you can just alternate between them so they don't get tired and it's slow and steady chips earnings. I get about 200k per hour doing this.

>>89717773
What's the original version of the thumbnail? I need it for reasons.

>>89743740
For Racing Champion 8 is 3k profit a win, but you have to play that manually to win. If you want to farm without paying attention you should do Champion 7 with like 12 Stamina and the rest pumped into Swimming for a bit higher return than Champion 5.
Thing is, Champion Match is 150k profit a win if you bid the full 50k. Even if you only win 1 in 3 it's still gonna be a lot quicker than spamming Racing. Racing returns are just disproportionately puny compared to it. I'd honestly sit at a slot machine with a turbo controller or auto-clicker before racing, pretty sure that'd still be faster.

>>89743740
Because you get 150k carrots a win and a match lasts about the same time as a race?
Champion fights are really consistent with a 40/15 stat split if you keep spamming Escape and use item pick ups to get out of corners. Just remember to leave the Casino or do a throwaway loss in Beginner using a lvl 1 Worker inbetween matches since the enemies will focus you if you've won your last round.

>>89726445
Yeah, but also, no. Her buff lasts ten seconds and comes back whenever she stops so she can move more than someone like Anya.

>>89744007
>>89744123
ill be honest i havent even tried racing yet i didnt know the payout was so low in comparison

>>89744207
It's kind of sad, they really should buff it. There's just no reason to do it.
All the mixed environment stages require different stat spreads to win and the payout is laughable, it's a lot of effort for nothing. You don't even get a trophy to display in your Holo House or anything.

Do Dragon Fire and Holy Fire count as Asacoco weapons?

>>89744799
Yes

>>89744799
yes, have fun

>>89744816
Awesome, that's what I thought but I wasn't 100% sure. Thanks.

>>89741369
No he has a point, people don't play holocure to satisfy some guy's math autism.

never ever forever and ever

>>89737851
>Mackerel
That's better because of /our/ saba meme. Was the clownfish even a reference to something?

trying to farm diamonds is not fun. yes I know the spots they spawn

>>89744799
Yes. It's why people are calling Koefficient a dumbass for disabling Asacoco.

I really hate leveling gathering.
This shit is mad gay.
This timing minigame is extremely unfun to do for 5 hours straight.

>>89745101
Finding Nemo.

>>89745110
What level are they? Like 7 or 8?
Should I already start trying to go for them while I'm still leveling?
I'm only Lv5.5 and already extremely sick of this

>>89745110
So the spawn rates really are completely bugged.

>>89745125
You can just mash instead of hitting the sweet spot, you get less resources and XP but you can do it while watching streams

>>89745125
You don’t need to care about the minigame if you want xp after you get an item with a gather bonus. No matter how poorly you do then you get at least the gather bonus amount of material and if you get at least 1 material you get full xp
You can just spam click the highest level things that spawn then. Only watch out because then higher level things will start to spawn more and you won’t have enough materials to make better tools immediately.

>>89745125
This can be just a hunch, but I felt like I had an easier time grinding mats with Kaela than with Kronii. Considering how much random rules there apparently are in gambling, it may actually be the case though.

>>89745176
Level 6 on the bottom areas. So long as your pickaxe has a gather boost, you might as well spam click to get some free ones.

>>89745208
Not necessarily, I was farming in the level 7 to 8 areas. I just don't enjoy farming for diamonds since there are more things that can spawn in those areas so it takes longer.

>>89745366
Like how fan letters have improved drop rates for the character that fan letter is associated with

>>89745366
Is there fuckery like this in the Casino? I haven't heard anything about that.
I know people are talking about Fan Letters having improved drop chances if you play the character they are related to, but I'm not sure I buy that until someone datamines everything.

>>89745944
Miko only has a 1% chance of winning against Watame in the Casino

Is there somewhere Kay is still taking names for the worker fans he has yet to add? I wanna submit mine for an Otomo

Remember to grind to Lv10 Woodcutting/Mining and get the Hololite gear so you are ready to gather and craft weapons and armor for the roguelike mode :)

Wait, where Rushia

>>89746759
Her not being in the game is pretty whack honestly. I was looking forward to using her.

>>89746759
terminated

Didn't know you could get bosses too

Damn this wasn't it either. I think I was doing better than previous runs but I messed up (and forgot to use the potion).

>>89745110
Diamonds are definitely the worst by a mile.
You need so fucking many of them to craft everything and there's this piece of shit Pebble that keeps getting in the way talking to you when all you want is to chop some wood, it's horrible.
All the other materials are really no issue at all, it's the Diamonds.

Most interesting character of each gen:
>Ina
>Bae
>Korone
>Roboco
>Haachama
>Shion
>Risu
>Ollie
>Kaela
>Pekora
>Coco

an opinion

Usada Casino Drink for 1m does it do anything? Or is it a scam?

>>89747785
I generally agree, though I find Watame more interesting than Coco. Coco has some neat stuff, but it's still fairly straightforward damage. Watame's ability to turn healing into damage makes for some more unusual builds.

>>89747906
It shows up in the casino but does nothing else

>>89747906
scam

>>89735529
Didn't they remove the achievement for finishing the mini game?

Jesus christ, Luna just deals no fucking damage. Got stuck on Nodoka for like 5 minutes because of it and died

>>89748633
It's still there for me

>equip Trumpet on Flare with some haste items
>suddenly Crazy Bus

https://streamable.com/lsn9qs

>>89738754
>I had like 24 wins to 2 losses with my 40HP/15Atk Ranged Worker by the time I bought everything.
Does you follower cap lvl is 55? My stronger follower caps at level 48. How do you get it?

Why does Flare have a Splat Tim gun? She's a dark elf, she should have a bow.

>>89748869
You fucking racist. Mods, crush his gem.

>>89748850
You get LVL+5 total stats

>>89735529
I don't even get all the bitching, the tower isn't hard, specially with the checkpoints
>it doesn't respect my time
the whole game is a time wasting simulator. there's literally a casino where you spend fake money to make more fake money so you can buy a fucking monkey that follows you around
if anything, the jump tower is more engaging than anything else in the holohouse

>>89743779
You can get 2m chips in an hour in the pit fights lol.

>>89748648
It's because you're not building damage.

So do some characters have better Fishing rates because Reine, Calli and Coco all should if there are secrets values.

would your oshi really throw away her fan into gladiatorial pit for her amusement?

>>89745112
Disabling injection Asacoco doesn’t stop you from making dragonbreath or holy fire but you still shouldn’t on Coco because she nullifies the downsides of it too (other than the lost item slot)
I block Asacoco instead of disable it for other characters too unless I am doing something special because a blocked item will still show up as super in Holoboxes potentially and I want to play around it it
Although with how things work maybe I should just take asacoco so I have a good chance of it becoming super
The skill damage bonus it gives would be amazing on many characters

>>89749563
For money? Better ask what Holo wouldn't do it.

My Oshi is Mumei. She's canonically a mass murderer who has caused genocides.

>>89749563
yes, and she'd make my death very amusing to others that are watching it

>>89749656
Asacoco is garbage because it gives 80 ATK% which you already have loads of.

>>89749656
If you can handle the slight HP Drain it's really quite good and it's pretty easy to do even without Shackle. On Coco you can do it just by doing either of the collabs. Or super charge it using Holy Fire.

I beat the whole tower (pic related me at the end)

>>89749089
It's literally called a "rage game" for a reason

>configure steam controller settings
>set A to toggle
>enable turbo
>hit the slots
>wait an hour
>blow it all on blackjack in 30 seconds
This DESTROYS the frame rate, btw

>>89749865
>Or super charge it using Holy Fire.
They don't interact, Holy Fire is Gorilla paw.
>>89749833
That's my thought and why I wonder if it is even worth it on Coco. The super version is +100% and +200% skill damage which is what I'd want to try out sometime.

Luna has nothing going for her. She needs stun in order to do any damage but even then it isn't very good. The only things in the game that cause stun are Wamy Water and her own weapon. The crescent does shit damage too.
It's like if you took Aki and removed everything good about her. Speaking of, we REALLY need more collabs, especially ones that cause debuffs. It's fucking lame that black plague doesn't trigger Mukirose.

>>89750370
This is why I ignore all character kits and build the same collabs and items on everyone.

What are the new Super Items for this version anyway? Any other than Asacoco?

>>89750589
True BL + Hope Soda

>>89750589
Just Asacoco.

>>89750589
Is it bugged? I got it while holding the regular version but still had the HP drain.

How goes the fan letter grind fellows?

>>89750370
The crescent did good damage for me because it would proc multiple times per second on a stunned enemy in the arc which absolutely melted bosses and enemies in my experience. She is built for haste because the chance is every time an enemy is hit while stunned.The lack of ways to stun is the bigger issue. Her character weapon, Skill and special the only reasonable way to do it, adding the stamp to increase the odds, because the wammy water knocks enemies away from her melee range.
With some of her discouraging her from moving it feels like going for Pick up range is a good idea so grabbing the limiter and Stamp but then most weapons or collabs you would use with that will end up keeping enemies out of melee/skill range. And of course any good weapons get no benefit from weapon size scaling which is still dumb.
There is so much damn competition for the Spider Cooking weapon for good collabs. Axe too.

>>89750692
Not supercollab I meant items.

>>89750850
It happens to me to. Worst of it I was using the shackles, the super version drop and override the shackles effect.

>>89750370
She's okay, she just looks bad because so many of the new characters are straight up broken.

Pekora’s kinda nutty.

Also beat the jump king shit. Bless the checkpoint system. No clue why the end was so easy and forgiving compared to the rest of it.

>Autocook is broken
I knew it

>>89740244
>10 hours of fishing
That sounds miserable.

>>89751343
I honestly don't see any of them being too broken. Watame is strong because heal spam, but I find the rest of them still outclassed by the old strong characyers

>>89751480
It's one day watching streams while fishing on the side compared to 100+ hours of grinding out runs with AZKi or now Marine.

>>89751648
Marine is the new best coin farmer by a mile.
Noel is straight up broken and trivializes even Stage 4 Hard to the point that it becomes impossible to lose no matter how much shit you stand in.

>>89740244
Wait you can just buy chips with money forever? I thought there was a cap

>>89751715
Yeah, sana is thoroughly outclassed in the “stand there and wait to ult” category now

>>89751715
Even Flare, the worst of gen 3, has a unique advantage in hardcore mode.

The new support ability is cool
but I think they need to add more mechanics to the game.
The dude still needs to design like... around 30 other characters, maybe even more in the future.

>>89751760
That's the normal money shop, not the chip shop.

>>89751858
The luck mechanic is cool

>>89751715
Fair enough on marine, I don't coin farm. But it's not as if older characters can't trivialize S4H either.

>>89752028
Korone is really strong, I feel like she's usually underrated.

>>89752028
Well yeah, with the right build everyone can do it easily.
Thing is with Noel you can literally go in there at G1, no Fandom, no shop upgrades, no nothing, and shit all over it with the worst item luck known to man.
I do think she's quite a bit overtuned compared to most of the cast.

A facking monkey!!!

>>89752724
>you can literally go in there at G1, no Fandom, no shop upgrades, no nothing, and shit all over it with the worst item luck known to man.

>>89753401
>can't take it to regular stages
You had ONE job kay yu.

>>89753456
It's for the better with all the effect cluttering you are not going to see it.

>>89751715
Why people even farm coins? I have been completing every level with all characters and getting max fandom levels and still have not really been starved for coins.

>>89753977
you need a shitload of coins at the start, then you don't at all

>>89753977
To buy things in the casino.

>>89753977
You need like 500m Coins for the Casino Prizes

>>89752028
Well for other characters it involve stacking Spd and outrunning the YAGOOs to make sure you only eat few hits a second.
For Noel just stand there and afk, that's literally it.

>>89752724
No you cant, why exaggerate this much? You still need to be gachikoi or w/e because otherwise you get shit on within the first 4 minutes.

Show off your design sense nerds

>>89754685
A woman posted this.

>>89754723
I'm not posting my dick to prove you wrong, not again.

>>89754747
Homosexual or woman, either one means you're a hole.

>>89749494
And Ina.

>>89754861
>tv backwards

>>89754685

>>89754861
you're looking at the back of your tv dumbass

>>89755058
>>89755050
I watch TV from bed and eat on my couch

>>89755075
Youre a retard even with this justification. Why wouldnt you move the couch so it can also see the tv?

>>89754685
I wanted to recreate my place but he building area is too small so I gave up. I wish we had more options for floor plans.

>>89755185
>gives himself eyeball cancer by sitting too close to the TV
ha, my mom raised me right!

>>89755250
just realized my desks were facing the wrong way

>>89755050
vt

>>89755655

big ass whirlpool

>>89755829
I made it big enough to fill entire screen, 666% pickup range, pretty funny

>>89754685
don't judge me, I just copy the whole the whole thing from someone on reddit

>>89756586
>>89755829
I really wish Eldritch Horror was better. It's one of my favorite collabs on paper but the healing is low and kill dependant, and enemies aren't hit with any kind of status or even slowed or dragged to the center.
"Mid" is not good enough for something that sacrifices EN curse.

>>89756999
It also sacrifices Jigokuhensheep