/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

she's but a pidor

No one cares about a bitch that lost to Gura

>>8946886
kizuna ai clinging on her last pubic hair so nijifags will sub to her. cope

>>8946886
Well that explains Hololive's success.

VShoujo has a lot more freedoms.

Kizuna Ai would be sucking on hololive's toes if she wasn't so tied to China

Kson started flashing her cooch the moment she got her freedoms, so my answer is let it happen.

>>8946886
>Did alot
But male and females already collabed and shit during the oyabun and four kings era

>>8946886
Male/female interactions only benefit male and are harmful to female. That's why top Nijis are males while Hololive keeps the male/female interaction to the absolute minimum and the result is the opposite of Niji, but more successful, because being vtuber is actually a job meant for female.

Nijisanji did a lot to make female vtubers within the company get utterly and completely overshadowed by male vtubers, proving that female vtubers lose the novelty and appeal when they stop being among each other only.

>>8946886
Ai's oshi is Lamy.

Not baiting but why are Holos so obsessed with numbers?
If it changes anything about your viewing experience it impacts it negatively by retards clogging up the chat.
I don't want to call you names but it seems like a complete emotional overreaction because of some desire to be le winning team.

>>8947710
Have you visited /v/? You’ll have half the answers for why there’s tribalism

>>8946886
translation: I like you because you guys suck chinese cock as well

>>8946886
Imagine using this as ammo for why hololive sucks when Kizuna herself (a female) is free to collab with any holo member she wants, but doesn't because like Nijisanji she's a huge Xing cocksucker. Zhangs really DO own vtubing huh.

>>8947622
This, and when she said about Nijisanji's freedom, she probably compare it to her old agency. Holofags literally have no reason to get triggered over this.

>>8947019
Luck

>>8946886
Anyone have that pic of Ai literally donating to Lamy's channel?

>>8948009
Holofags have thin skins.

>>8947945
>>8947542
Didn't globoholo bent to China on multiple occassions now? what did I miss that you say Holo is antichina?

>>8948025
Feels like that was late last year, just search on youtube

>>8947710
Nah. Unlike Nijisanji. Hololive knows the demographic they're catering to. And that's me, a weeb. And I believe in Waifu Culture Supremacy.

why are holobronies like this?

>>8948062
If you support Hololive now, you support fight against China. If you disagree you are a bugman. Taiwan!

>>8948062
You have to prove Holo bending to China past the big yab, not the other way around.

>OP: keep coping holofags
>>8948009
>>8948043
Do tribalists really?

>>8946886
why are you posting translated clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKirIFYHzq8

>>8948386
Even if i'm disappointed with how easy holofans are baited, the utter gall of Nijikeks to pretend that OP had good intention with this thread just shows why no one likes them.

>>8948016
You win the lottery by luck, you don't build an agency of multiple talents that lasts for years by luck.

>>8946886
It doesn't matter because her favorite Vtuber is LAMY. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwkkpxPNZ4M

>>8948025
LMAO

>>8946886
No wonder she lost all her popularity

>Holo vs Niji bait thread with AI sprinkle on top
At least you're evolving, but this thread shows why you keep doing this to holokeks with how many (You) they give.

What's the point of being tribalist when everything's already clear as day? Anyone can see that Hololive is better than Nijisanji overall but male Nijisanji are better than Holostars.

>>8948937
It's kayfabe.

>>8948110
Nijisanji knows it's audience. Hololive us the one that went from idolfag hunting to EOP pandering.
I mean look at Haato's scizo arc. That was pure catering to EOP for attention because she wasn't all that popular in hololive.

Nijisanji has and always will be JP based humor and entertainment that's been the kind of shit on NND for the last 15 years. It's why they are more popular in JP while hololive is like 70% foreign viewership

>>8947710
is clearly Nijifags who are obsessed with numbers. Is literally never a conversation in any general except a Niji

>>8949038
tranny schizos BTFO...

>>8949067
>WE'RE ON REDDIT

>>8949115
Yeah i know hololive has like 5 different subreddits for the company alone and individual ones for each vtuber..

>>8949070
SEA ESL tribalmongering and pointing finger, how classic.

>>8949070
>Nijifags are obsessed with numbers
>HAHA LOOK HOW BIG HOLOLIVE SUBS AND VIEWS ARE, NIJISANJI SO IRRELIVENT HAHA YOU SHOULD JUST ACCEPT HOLOLIVE IS BETTER
I wonder why they get brought up in conversation with Niji so often...

Stop using my oshi to create shitty bait topics. She created this industry and every VTuber bows to her and so should every shitty anon on this shitty board.

New nijiniggers on /vt/ don't know that their predecessors were the first numberfags, they shat on hololive and other agencies back then on /vyt/.

>>8948341
So you gave one example for them bending over decisively for china and no case against and I have to prove their not against china?

>>8948561
>the utter gall of Nijikeks to pretend that OP had good intention with this thread
I think its obvious that this is a bait thread no mattet which tribe you are, that Nijikek is probably just pointing out that OP is a faggot and instead of fighting we should BTFO OP together like that thread where the OP said Niji and Holos no longer collabs

>>8949342
Makes you realise that numberfags don't actually like nijisanji or hololive, they just circlejerk whoever has the highest subs/views and will jump ship at the drop of a hat huh?

>>8947964
You speak as if Holos didn't suck off chinks' cocks

>>8949342
>new Nijiniggers
Some of them literally migrate from /jp/ because they dont like the extreme gatekeeping there like how HoloJP fags here migrate from /jp/ because its infested with schizos though

>>8949342
it was all of your samefagging

>>8948016
Cope

Nijisanji just feels like they're having much more fun. They are playing the games they want to play, and when they collab they are genuinely laughing together and having a blast. There's less pressure for them to put on a show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Hzdvtau_Q&t=5813

>>8950655
>not banned by china
>NijiCN

>>8947019
That doesn't explain anything.

>>8949342
They did. So did Lunatics before them. Guess which ship they jumped to after Hololive went popular?

You're literally a faggot if you think Kizuna is still relevant these days.

>>8948749
Why 6100

>>8947584
who fucking care dude
got dam this is that whole "girls and boys can't be best friends!" thing from middle school all over again

>Commie vtuber praising another commie corporation.
Am I suppose to be surprised?
>Stuck at 2.98m
I would've thought she'd hit 2.99m by now since the month is almost up. She's slower than a hololive sub channel like Aloe with no content or expected videos in the future.

>>8955100
iToddler you stupid newfag

>it's another Kenmochi vs Ai thread
>no one linked the rap battle
Come on guys.
https://youtu.be/METNQRSPTy0

>>8949067
>70% foreign viewership
Still living in early late 2019?

>>8955426
Speak like a human

>>8946886
So they are joining forces to fight hololive, cute.

>>8949038
Worst part is I can't even tell if this is real or not.

>>8948110
>weeb
>waifu supremacy
go back

>>8956104
You're right it's 90% foreign viewership now. Pekora's 60% foreign viewers is probably 70% now.

>>8960534

>>8960534
the gaijin vermin doesnt even matter since most of them dont sc

>>8948639
half and half, Hololive was lucky to strike it rich with early clippers and gained a massive western audience because of it. Don't forget that Niji was still at the top before the EN gen became a thing. Also notice that they don't really hire unknowns anymore, there was a lot of luck in the beginning but all their current moves are pretty strategic.

>>8946886
I bet she doesn't want Lamy to interact with males

>>8946886
Kizuna Ai isn't the same anymore, they changed the voice actor and she moved to do her own channel

>>8966069
why do retarded niggers keep saying this shit? It's still the same lady doing her voice you fucking gullible retard.

>>8949342
Nijifags are the jews of /vt/

>>8946886
What's her average viewers now? 300 or something?

>>8964018
>Don't forget that Niji was still at the top before the EN gen became a thing
no it wasn't

Mito is the real og chuuba, the other mainly uploaded shitmemes

>>8946886
Ai sure has fallen. Having to collab with a literally who like this instead of Hololive members.

>>8946886
>Keep coping holofags

This, this kind of tribalist shit the one that holding nijisanji to go and beyond, pls stop sucking cock and just let everyone enjoy them, brand loyalty is a problem for many vtuber already nijisanji suffering big time from this also, stop baiting holobros to hate nijisanji retard! Or else they never gonna get big!

>>8950747
VirtualReal is not same branch as nijisanji, they literally get double view from all nijisanji on bilibili

>>8971506
Nijisanji is based and redpilled.neck yourself holotrannies and holobronies cucks.

>>8946886
>male/female interactions being ok
That's what you call ruining vtubing.

>this thread
All of you need to touch grass. Fucking embarrassing

>>8947964
>>8948749
Chink AI kneels to Ramirez

>>8972070
>That's what you call collabing

>>8946886
who even is that

A lot of Holos have collabed with guys. Off the top of my head:
FBK
Haachama
Suisei
Subaru
RBC
Choco
Towa
Matsuri
Moona
Risu
Iofi
Ollie
Mori
Kiara
Probably more not coming to mind right now.

>>8949038
take your meds, holy shit.

>>8972570
Come on Subaru hasn't collabed with a male for at least a year. Half of the list are Apex addicts and had to collab with males and are the bottom of hololive. Shishiron had 2 "No more Heroes 3" promotions with 2 males, wasn't on her channel so people might have missed it.
Niji can collab with the other gender but still they have people like levi and hayase who can't get average 1k viewers after 2 years even when levi has weekly memberstreams. Botan had 7 mengen in 13 months after getting called out and 3 wallpapers. Subaru...is a wasteland if you think it's 3 years but they both get 10k viewers easy.

>>8975107
>Maimoto 3D was over a year ago
What the fuck

>>8946886
It's not just that though. Niji makes casual interaction/collab without clear goal being allowed to happen. Before this, you have to state clear intent and plan if you want to ask someone to collab. Ai also state the same thing, if you're not a clipfag and watch the actual stream.

>>8977559
>Niji makes casual interaction/collab without clear goal being allowed to happen
Is that supposed to be a good thing? The thing Nijisanji need right now is actually quality control, because they can do whatever they want, most of their contents are low quality.

>>8984254
>muh quality over quantity
How to say you don't watch Niji streams without saying you don't watch Niji streams

>>8975107
>but
Are you saying 500 viewers is bad or something? You faggots made up this race in your head so if Nijisanji has 'low' numbers they're losing or something. Levi still releases amazing covers and Ran-nee chan has fun shows and is a co-host on Nijibara, numbers mean nothing. They're doing well. I'm sick of numberfags. Die already

That was actually a pretty wholesome segment, felt nice to see Kizuna relaxed and happy again. It's amazing how good her rigging is, even compared to modern ones. I love her so much

>>8946886
Everyone knows that hololive is going to shit, the english branch managers/producers are forcing stupid lore shit while the JP branch stagnates waiting for permissions and the next popular game to jump on. I only watch hololive anymore because I still care.for my oshi and her friends, plus I like the idol side that EN misses out in completely. Niji is by far more competent as a company and has good talents, even their EN is top-tier all around. Even vshojo is more interesting when they actually play games. Fucking take me back to 2019

>>8946886
Tbh I do respect Nijisanji allowing for mixed gender stuff

Nijisanji also did a lot to popularize cheap trash fire garbage Live2D so even the lowest sewer amoeba could become a vtuber with minimal effort. Please thank them properly.

>>8960434
>Be this dumb anon
>Doesn't know that 99.99% of the Vtuber fanbase are ex WEEBS
>Get called a retarded ass nigger
You're a reatarded ass nigger.

>>8984927
500 viewers 2 years in is bad when Mito had 500 viewers in the first week. You might want to watch Mitos video about her reason to join nijisanji. Numbers matter. Ran is doing fine because she is a riajuu and is only doing this as a hobby.

>>8946886
How is that kneeling? Are you seriously implying more freedom is always a good thing?

>>8990004
Yet Levi still got to be on AR Light Up Tones, invited to collabs, friends with people, etc. So tell me what do numbers have to do with that?

Rent free

>>8946886
Not sure why this is even a debate, they can just pick their gender to be what they want, so gender "restrictions" on collabs never made sense.

yeah Kizuna, thats why u and nijisanji are irrelevant and hololive keeps winning.
lets be real shes just salty

>>8947584
>only benefit male and are harmful to female

Highest level ironic 4chan brain rot. If you're worried about your fake cartoon wife looking at a cartoon man you're legitimately fucking insane.

>>8964018
hololive became top even before EN became a thing. also u need to go deeper: u say clips made hololive so big ok but why didnt they make nijisanji so big then? u may say its because nijisanji memebrs werent clipped ok then why werent they clipped or why didnt the clips get popular compared to hololive clips? hmmm? its because hololive members are funnier and more entertaining.

>>8995253
>hololive members are funnier and more entertaining
Exactly opposite
>why didnt the clips get popular compared to hololive clips?
YT algo

>>8995348
haven't heard the algorithm cope before. Holo took longer to get their big boys in, simple as

>>8995348
>They only have numbers!
>They aren't entertaining!
>B-b-but Algo!
>B-b-but clippers!
>T-they totally a-aren't entertaining!
>T-they're so boring, t-that's why people c-clip them!
>T-they're totally b-boring!

>>8996461
>Holo took longer to get their big boys in, simple as
You know, this cope sounds even worse

>>8996789
>B-b-but Algo!
>T-they're so boring, t-that's why people c-clip them!
That's you, who imagined this contradiction. All I said is that their clips were viewed because of YT algo, so stop falseflagging, please.

>>8995348
seems like cope

>>8994994
Levi sucked more dicks than others.

>>8996940
>seems like cope
You have a bad eyesight then.

>>8996941
You can write fanfics all you want, still doesn't change the fact that low mumbers means nothing.

>>8996967
I just use common sense unlike you

>>8997003
That's the biggest cope I've seen today. Trying to mask his ignorance by a common sense... man, you're just pathetic.

>>8996854
Gen 3 has 3 different members that mog half of Niji. I am not a tribalfag but I dont like denial. I want Rion to yield my offspring

>>8997073
You've just showed that you are a retard.
You didn't even understand what I wrote in my post. I wrote that your dumb theory about "getting big boys in" is completely retarded, as they would be nobodies without yt algo bias.

>>8997208
Newsflash, no one would make it big without the algo.

>>8996938
>N-no, NijiEN i-is t-totally e-entertaining than H-hololive
Completely ignoring the fact that Hololive was just an ant compared to Niji back then, and somehow they managed to get the clippers on their side? Why is that? Hololive's totally boring, thats why they're at the top in the West, rivaling JP, took ID domain despite being later than Niji. even managed to get the Korean audience despite the market being the hardest to get into for god fucking sakes. Be there when they create their KR branch completely mogging all of NijiKR because Hololive totally isn't entertaining.

>>8997243
No every sinlge niji got popular through talent, skill and dedication, and every holo got lucky. you are wrong and gay

>>8947019
Kek

>>8997243
>>8997344
>would make it big
"Big" is a real keyword. When algo is playing on your side, you get the numbers. Don't believe me? Pick any of your "Big boys" and compare their numbers before algo bias with someone decent from niji at the same period (for example september-november 2019).

>>8997328
Oh, you're that anon, who writes
>Hololive's totally boring, thats why they're at the top in the West
Then people explain you why it is, and after 30 minutes you write again:
>Hololive's totally boring, thats why they're at the top in the West
There's not point talking to a retard who has a goldfish memory.

>>8997453
Faggot I am saying the algorithm is what creates big numbers don't repeat what I said or else I'll shove my cock down your tight little throat.

>>8997533
>Goldfish memory
I haven't got a proper explanation as for why they're at the top. They're boring right? Why do they have the clippers? The algo rigger? And why do people do it, but not the Corpo?

>>8997580
>I'll shove my cock down your tight little throat
Your micropenis is too small for that, don't make me laugh.
>Faggot I am saying the algorithm is what creates big numbers
Yes, algo is what creates big numbers. And guess what happens when biased algo things that vtubers=hololive?

>>8997634
>I haven't got a proper explanation as for why they're at the top.
1. Getting in a chink market first;
2. Chinks clip holo, because they don't know anyone else;
3. Because there are no other clips with western keywords, YT algo starts to think that vtubers = hololive.
You know the rest.
Not let's wait 30 minutes for your goldfish memory to wipe out this information.

>>8997828
>1. Getting in a chink market first
Good job, you outed yourself as a brainlet, or rather, a supposed to be "all knowing one"

>>8997667
I genuienly don't understand why you're still giving me (You)s when I agree with you.

>>8985870
Why is that worthy of respect? The girls choose to not collab with males in Hololive and no one is stopping them except the gachikoi the girls created from GFE. Even in 2434, some female livers don't interact with males.

>>8997924
You are a moron if you think otherwise. Did retarded anon really think that entering chink market meant creating their branch there? If you did, I have a news for you - you need to update your knowledge - Holo was the first one to promote their main branches in China. Did you already forgot? We are talking about clips of main branches, not chink branches.

>>8949038
>14 words
Ah I didn't knew that one

>>8949038
>6 million
>subject matter
Kek

>>8955222
>girls and boys can't be best friends!
they cant though
men and women are different and perceive things differently

>>8998126
Quite impossible for the chinks to now know about Nijisanji, when they were so big compared to Holo, also >do i need to remind you? Why clippers clip them? If they were so boring?

>>8998445
>Quite impossible for the chinks to now know about Nijisanji, when they were so big compared to Holo
Looks like you don't even know how things work. Nijisanji was big, compared to Holo on a LOCAL JP market. Nips did Niji clips, but those clips don't have any western keywords, so they didn't affect yt algo at all.
>do i need to remind you? Why clippers clip them? If they were so boring?
Yes, yes, your famous goldfish memory kicked in!
I warn you last time - if you lose memory one more time, I am gonna stop answering your retarded questions.
Here is an answer on your question:
>2. Chinks clip holo, because they don't know anyone else;

>>8947019
undeniable proof

>>8998634
>Chinks clip holo, because they don't know anyone else;
Gee, an ant that manage to crawl its way up and became a threat to the Chinkysanji, despite being boring, talentless, shit managment, tech company, but cave man tier tech, less game permissions, no freedom.

Imagine all those problems, and yet it became a threat to the largest Vtubing company, imagine id Holo's were actually the opposite.

How do you actually cope with all that?

>>8998445
>nijisanji is basically controlled by china
HOLY SHIT. How will nijiniggers ever recover???

>>8998961
Looks like you:
1. Don't have anymore arguments left;
2. In process of losing your memory again.
That means, it's not worth talking to you anymore. Have a nice day!

>>8999062
By doing business as usual, some of the livers on bili2 are cute and nice.

>>8999069
>No arguments
Was there?
>Holo = boring
Where is this success coming from
>Algo
Why do they manage to get the clippers
>Chink
Yes, Hololive's so boring! It got the China audience, despite being an ant!

Always remember what Hololive has
>Shit management
>Less game permissions, very limited game selection
>No freedom
>Shit tech
>Boring
>Talentless
Despite all of those problems, they managed grow, rivaling NijiJP, took ID domain, the behemoth in the West, caught KR audiece, notoriously known as the hardest market to get into, inevitable KR branch and market domination. >They're soooo boooooriiiiinnnggg

Imma enjoy myself, knowing that they will conquer the world in the future

>>8948062
They bent so hard they dumped their entire CN branch.
Based china wins again.

>>8948062
>what did I miss
Holy fuck, how long have you been disconnected from Hololive?

>>8998126
>Holo was the first one to promote their main branches in China
Do you have a source on this? Any news article to back up your claim?

>>8999180
A fucking chink

As a filthy EOP, holos initially appealed to me more than nijis simply because of superior character design and fitting voices. In this aspect nijis are just really fucking boring and generic. Also, holos acknowledge EOP audience and actively engage with overseas fans. And yeah, holos are really fun to watch and there's not a fucking million of them, so it's possible to know them all and keep tabs on their interactions.

Why not just watch the people you think are fun to watch?

>>9005679
The constant shilling done by both the talents and fans also help keeping the audience up-to-date with the lore.

>>8947622
obscenely based
gokisei love

>>8946886
keep cucking cuckfag

>>9000000
Shit thread, using it to check this.

Nijisanji just has too many members

>>8972570
Ina had a m*le translator for the pixiv collab

>>8947019
wait that didn't explain Chink clipper and reddit nigger

>>8990004
mito literally auditioned just to use "i became a vtuber lmao" as a joke at parties, stop pretending you watch mito

>>8995253
>Hard to translate their humour
>Sometimes it's hard to understand what they are saying because of how they speak. Like kenmochi who has a large japanese vocabulary or like kuzuha where 90% he says doesn't have any meaning.

Idk I remember watching a video about it. Well it explains the famous clips of hololive are trying to speak English or cute voices.

>>8972070
yes