/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>89329976
So did any femruffians reply? Any cuties?

>>89329976
Every member of hololive wishes all their fans were cute girls except for one who thinks about boys all the time

I feel like replying to this would put a huge target on your back.

>>89329976
They mean they hate their male fans

>>89330218
This is true. The ones that think about guys are fujos that want to turn you sissy too.

>>89330218
>one who thinks about boys all the time
Kobo or Shiori?

>>89330543
Gigi. Irys.
Fujos.

>>89329976
Hmm

ah yes, the mythical 0.01% female audience for vtubers. i wonder what the numbers say on their end, they have that data on their analytics.

>>89330656
Exactly why "female viewers" doesn't mean anything. Everyone is a female when they feel like it thanks to creeps like this empowering them.

>>89330964
i think the word "female" has lost its meaning in online discourse in the past few years. i just automatically assume everyone online is male until they categorically prove to me they're otherwise. probably with a karyotype or something.

>>89329976
Why does Mococo eat like a FUCKING piggg

>>89329976
>"yo any girls" while doing that one donut meme reference

>>89330218
Danchou...

>>89331259
This anon is easy prey for stinky fujos preteding to be one of the boys to lure them into their basement under pretense of hanging out at a pub so that they can trap them with other maleanons and keep them trapped until they have enough footage of the two fucking and playing out their dirty BL fantasies.

>>89329976
The holos with a higher ratio of female fans don't pander to male fans, they made their bed.

>>89330218
Noel?

>>89331504
It should've been me!

>>89331259
>past few years
"there are no girls on the internet" has been a thing since before you were born

>>89330622
Bros, why are fujos so cute...

>>89329976
they, and the poor bastard that actually handles their twitter are sick of the tsunami of dick pics that keep getting sent to them, and are urging/requesting for some cooch/titty pics into their inbox for a palate cleanse and dolorous attempt to prove (even if it's just a few) that there are indeed, women who watch them

>>89332486
>dolorous
what

>>89332486
This is plausible. I bet dyke or bi vtubers honestly feel this way

>>89332486
How do they get dick pics sent to them when their DMs are closed?

>>89332732
Astrally
I sent you mine
Get a looking glass, it's small and split in three

>>89332783
You might want to see a dogtor about that...

>>89332732
>he doesn't know about the dicknet

>>89332835
Pero didn't respond and I know no other dogtors

>>89329976
BAU BAU PLEASE BUY MORE BOTS

>>89329976
Fuwawa doesn't want femruffians to keep hating her for unintentional femmogging

>>89330227
Ikr like what's to stop schizos on /here/ from creating fake YouTube accounts, going to that community post, and start harassing the girl ruffians that replied in the comments. That would not be even remotely funny.

>>89330218
Nah, most of them like getting attention from men.

>>89334133
Only if you’re not a creep (99% of what they think of chat) and give money

>>89333691
I was planning on doing that if it got political, but the comments seem mostly benign.

>>89335147
Your brain might be more rotted than you know

>>89329976
I will impregnate girl ruffians

>>89335147
There are a couple non-binaries in comments, and for second I was tempted to say
>They said girls, not freaks
but that seemed a bit much for a YouTube community post.

>>89335147
>>89335832
I was thinking something more like roleplay, or replying a kissing emote...

>>89335832
Thats why you don't get likes, because you are bullying other Ruffians

>>89335832
No balls

>>89336358
You do it then

>>89329976
they wanna groom and fuck femruffians.

>>89336286
ruffians are made to be bullied, now gimmie ur lunch money faggot

>>89330059
and posts like these are exactly why girl ruffians don't respond

>>89337034
pebbles are in no position to bully ruffians

>>89332486
Sowwy

>>89330656
This guy is a confirmed fag btw

>>89339374
No kidding

>>89329976
Not everyone is fortunate enough to have an Oshi where 1 out of 3 of us are girls looking to fuck her (and a handful of waitresses have).

>>89330656
>no matter their gender or orientation
They didn't say shit about orientation. What do faggots get out of FWMC anyways?

>>89339739
>KFP think there are girls

>>89330656
Isn't this that one Ruffian who had gay comics about anal sex on his Instagram? What a faggot.

>>89340443
Literally the only KFP I know are female. I do not know a single male who watches Kiara.

>>89340643
Why do you even know that. I swear Ruffians here are bigger fags than any of the thread celebrities they talk about. I see you retards talking about them/some discord more than I see you talk about streams.

>>89341230
I wish there was somewhere I could talk about FWMC without all the shit /baubau/ does like that...

>>89334133
women prefer male attention to zero attention but they prefer female attention to male attention

>>89339374
damn anon, how could you tell?

>>89329976
I'm pretty sure every vtuber wants lots of female viewers, asking them to reveal themselves is normal.

>>89337475
say that to my face fucker and not online see what happens

>>89329976
>Mogojyan, the Wuffians are getting lonely when we're not streaming, we need to give them someone to groom...

>>89343450
I'd probably start watching the teletubbies with tits again if they did this.

>>89329976
>Sometimes we see others say that there aren't many girl ruffians, but that's not tru-
No, it is true, Fuwamoco. You girls have like, one of the lowest amount of female fans in your fanbase. It's not a bad thing, you know your niche, but let's not pretend female ruffians are something in abundance.
Everyone and their mother knows your fanbase consists of mostly dudes.

>>89330218
And the ones that want male attention get female attention. Crazy, isn't it?
I don't know if I've seen a single ERB fan that wasn't a woman (lesbian or otherwise)

>>89343871
>You girls have like, one of the lowest amount of female fans in your fanbase.
Proof?

>>89344149
You're kidding, right? Of all the people to ask this to, you ask a Ruffian. The fanbase known for stalking and keeping tabs on the other members of the fanbase more than their actual oshi. These losers can tell you what an individual Ruffian had for breakfast with how much these fags talk about each other. Knowing something as simple as gender breakdown is trivial for their mental illness.

>>89344149
Oh, I don't know anon, maybe check the profile of your average ruffian. Tell me how many girls you find within the masses, go ahead.

>>89344149
Are you deadass?

>>89344383
no cap

What about non-baunaries ruffians? Surely we’re an inclusive fanbase

>>89329976
Didn't they drive off a majority of would be female viewers by pissing off the homostar fanbase that one time? Why are they surprised

>>89344492
God this shit mentality is exactly why western localization is garbage, “wish there was more gender neutral language” which explains why all gendered language and shit is removed from translated games or anime

>>89330059
Me but I'm not cute tho

>>89344149
All the replies and no proof kek. There was a long Twitter thread of all the existing femRuffians making friends with each other and FWMC went through and liked every tweet. Also the ASMR had a bunch of them sad that they got called onii-chan

Did they really expect to have any female fans after pissing off the sisters by ignoring the homos? The only girls that would be interested in them now are the rare cgdct female enjoyers, which just like with fans of those series are majority male

>>89333118
Calm down Aku the sperm whale we're talking about real women

>>89330059
Yeah, a bunch. You can check since it's a public post.

>>89344643
My nigga, it's not hard to understand that out of all the Holos Fwmc would have a relatively small amount of female fans. You said it yourself, they expect most of their fans to be guys.
What exactly are you arguing here?

>>89344606
japanese is a less gendered language than english though

>>89344804
lol not at all

They hearted a comment from a non-binary ruffian, think I’m gonna stop being a fan cause I don’t wanna see woke shit in my entertainment. Even had someone putting trans flags as a comment too, never let these freaks get an inch

>>89344955
rent free

>>89344804
>japanese is a less gendered language
You can just admit that you dont speak 日本語

>>89344804
This is kinda true in some ways and also very much not true at all in a lot more ways

>>89345109
like what

>>89344993
Fuck off, these people will literally bring down Hololive with their shit. Gonna be trying to get the girls to say trans rights or whatever if you let them have their way

>>89344804
I've always held that calling either Japanese or English a "gendered" language is a stretch. Both languages have gendered pronouns. That's basically it. Neither have any extended grammatical gender structure, like other Euro/South American languages.

>>89345301
>seething about 1% of the population
And that would be a problem because?

>>89345457
YWNBAW

>>89345482
I hope not kek, given I like being a dude.

>>89344955
They hearted it because they know "non-binaries" are 99.9% women, anon. kek

>>89345457
Because we’ve already seen what they can do if they infiltrate spaces, just look at any piece of entertainment and it’s got these types of people festered in it. Dragon Age Veilguard is the most recent example

>>89329976
Hololive gay thing
Blue and pink

>>89333118
Your posts got deleted in /#/ of all places, then you run to the catalog? Sad.

>>89345457
It's honestly kind of incredible how burgers let them completely take over their brains. In my country they're not exactly disliked or something but they're promptly ignored so it's kind of win-win

>>89344804
You're confusing gendered language with grammatical gender.

>>89345602
Can you explain? I think linguistics is interesting but I'm very much not well versed in it

>>89345591
If only it were that easy to just ignore them, they shove their ideologies and shit down everyone else’s throats in the west

>>89345639
This is what grammatical gender looks like.

>>89345695
>they shove their ideologies and shit down everyone else’s throats in the west
It's literally just shit like getting to choose whether your burly video game character has a cock and balls or a vagina. Hardly anything to get this worked up over. The shit about turning kids trans in schools is a myth.

>>89345730
so where do japanese and english compare with this?

>>89345811
They don't? That's the point. Neither English nor Japanese have this.

>>89345556
i don't trust anyone bitching about le woke in videogames nowadays, especially after seeing those grifters whining about baldur's gate 3 until it turned out to be a massive success ("a-actually it was always great"), whining about the terraria update where the character voice is no longer linked to body type, and whining about silent hill 2 remake because of a neon sign that was virtually unchanged from the original. it's sjw tier bullshit but from the other side now.

>>89344642
Girls are inherently cute, you really have to try to ruin it or be a tranny to stop being cute.

>>89345847
then how do they compare with gendered language?

>>89345929
"She did this"
"He bought that"
Pronouns. That's it.

>>89345957
and in japanese?

>>89345800
Yeah no it’s not just that you gaslighting fuck

>>89346043
Male: 私、俺、僕、etc.
Female: 私、あたし、うち、etc.

And something Japanese has that English doesn't is honorifics.
さん、くん、ちゃん、たん、様、etc.
These can be used with one gender more than another (like くん for males, or ちゃん / たん for females, but that's not a strict rule)

>>89345848
Imagine ignoring this blatant propaganda in entertainment because it aligns with your beliefs, just ignore how boy/girl have been replaced with body type 1/2 and how trans scars are now an accepted feature in character creators

>>89346200
Go ahead, I'll give you the chance to "enlighten" me then. Only as long as you don't use /pol/isms.

>>89346206
but doesn't japanese drop subjects a lot

>>89346303
>character creators are now more customizable than ever
>this is somehow a problem

>>89346370
Yes, so does English. Doesn't change any of the above.

>>89346303
dunno what to tell you, i have better problems than the customization option saying "1 - 2" instead of "man - woman".

>>89346303
Just... don't use them if you don't want to? Surely there's bigger things to be concerned about than character customization giving more customization options?

>>89346372
More customization is when you remove options to make it more “progressive”

>>89346553
don't just repeat my post word for word fucker.

>>89329976

>>89346321
Anything I say you’re just gonna deflect with “muh pol lingo” not my fault you’re a consoomer and can’t see how shitty modern entertainment has become because of these freaks

>>89344955
Yeah man, here I was thinking these two girls acting like cute anime dogs on the internet were based tradcath nazi tradwives... What a betrayal... It's over...

>>89346638
Cope and rope

>>89346573
>in his own example he mentions only renames and additional features
>"ummm sweaty i'm talking about the woke REMOVING options"

>>89346439
Ok? Doesn’t really add to the conservation because you “have other things to worry about” it’s still a thing that’s happened and obviously has become a pattern across many games

>>89346638
>can’t see how shitty modern entertainment has become because of these freaks
this is why that first anon said "rent free" to you, kek

>>89346553
Uh kind of hard when they make girl/boy into body type 1/2, so no there’s no choice but to go along with this craziness. Or when they fucking make you pick pronouns like what Starfield and Veilguard did

>>89346738
Go fucking back to /pol/

>>89346658
Troons do that better than any other group, so I’m good

>>89346687
well, you've failed to explain why renaming something from man/woman to 1/2 is so awful in the first place. if it had any actual real practical implications you'd have a point but as it stands it's essentially just bitching about labels. ironically much like trannies do lol.

>>89346655
>based tradcath nazi
That's more wawa's thing.

>>89346439
Fags like you are the reason why you have to refer to buffalo bill as "ma'am" and get canceled and lose your job if you don't. By choosing to bury your head in the sand and give them an inch they'll take a mile.

>>89346678
Again, not my fault you people ignore when shit gets changed or straight up removed in the name of “inclusivity and not offending people”

>>89346738
Just pick the pronouns that match the body like a normal person you fucking sped

>>89343869
Are you claiming she doesn't like female attention because of the 2 male collabs?

>>89346850
Are THEY in the room with us

>>89346701
“Stop noticing, just consume product”

>>89346854
The point is that you should pick your own hypothetical examples better you fucking retard. As it stands you just sound like a little bitch.

>>89346777
Defeatism and coping while ignoring the obvious problem, no wonder you freaks get preyed upon so easily

>>89346902
>Stop noticing
The only thing that's being noticed is your delusional obsession over 1% of the population kek

>>89346958
Imagine being such a schizo you freak out about this over 3 threads kek

>>89346802
Just being retarded or something? Changing girl/boy to body types is exactly what these non-binary and lgbt freaks pushed for in gaming since it’s “not inclusive.” I shouldn’t be forced to partake in that nonsense when I just wanna play games

>>89346899
Yeah, you for example kek

>>89347021
Go back

>>89346850
just reread >>89345848. i'm talking videogames and maybe internet culture, not whatever the fuck got you fired.

>>89346871
Uh sorry to say but normal people are not like that, get the fuck off Twitter and try that shit irl you’ll get laughed at unless you live in Seattle or Cali. Fucking delusional online freak, nobody but you degenerates is ok with being forced to pick pronouns because it’s the new quirky thing to do

>>89346932
It’s not a hypothetical example you retarded fuck, it’s literally all throughout entertainment. Not my fault you ignore it because it aligns with your shitty views

>>89347059
Who exactly do you think is pushing to de-gender the sexes and have characters refer to your physically male character as "She", anon? Think real hard about it.

>>89347012
>Make meaningless change
>Party 1 is happy
>Party 2 is unhappy because party 1 is happy
Seething because someone else gets to not seethe makes you a retard, watch less video game grifters. I don't have any issue with Type 1 and 2 because I KNOW what it fucking means, it already represents man and woman, I don't give a shit that they can now regard it as something else and be satisfied by that, why the fuck would it matter if you already know perfectly well that it's male and female?

>>89347142
Are you fucking dense? Your own fucking example contradicted your own point where you tried saying "the woke freaks are removing options from my character customization!!!" and you brought up ADDITIONAL options.

>>89347191
How is your experience in this hypothetical game ruined by you choosing a male character with male pronouns, so they can refer to it as "he"? You want to play games, so play them the way you want to. You're simply upset that others are now able to play them the way *they* want to as well. Think real hard about it.

>>89347206
“It doesn’t matter it doesn’t matter it’s the same thing.” Then why fucking change it?!?! If it’s the same as girl boy, all it does is appeal to these freaks that don’t align with being a boy or girl. That’s why modern gaming sucks, devs focusing too much on this shit instead of making an actual enjoyable product

>>89330622
IRyS imagines all her viewers are white haired bishonen that are also her big brother and yandere

>>89347191
Why are you playing as a physically male character and picking female pronouns, anon? Is there something you aren't telling us?

>>89330656
What a fucking creep.

>>89347213
What’s your point? How is this a gotcha? Yes woke freaks and removing and changing shit in entertainment to push their own ideologies, what’s your deflection besides just coping and doing the meme “yeah it’s happening, and it’s a good thing.”

>>89347343
based

>>89347206
If it's "meaningless" then don't fucking change it. Stop trying to pander to less than 1% of the population.

>>89330218
>fan rep is canonically a guy

>>89347313
Because it’s fucking unnecessary and ruining gaming

>>89347382
>What’s your point?
That you're malding so fucking bad about inconsequential shit that you're tripping over your own words. I haven't even told you what I think about this whole thing, you just assumed because you're seething like a bitch.

>>89347429
>ruining gaming
I repeat: how. Your experience has not changed in any way. Do you need to wear a sticker that says "MAN" everywhere you go, just so you don't forget what you are? Are you unable to make that decision in your brain?

>>89347431
Once again, if it’s inconsequential then why change it? That’s the problem, there’s no reason to change it other than pandering to this vocal minority of annoying people and that’s why it’s bad. Fucking open your eyes

>>89347502
My experience hasn’t changed? LMAO, look at the absolute state of modern gaming the past 10 years and how shitty it is. All the major gaming studios and skeleton crews ran by these freaks because the old guard left

>>89347330
>Then why fucking change it?!?!
who fucking cares? do you have any idea of how many rpg/simulation games even decades ago did this shit? but you clearly only get your gaming news from retarded grifters like grummz who hyperfocus on mediocre games he can find anything remotely "woke" about so he can amplify it by x20000 and say SEE THIS IS WHY THIS GAME SUCKS IT'S BECAUSE OF LE TROONS. you fucking americans are utterly fucking brainrotted, it's genuine mental illness. i pity you.

>>89347313
Because troons and their delusions should not be entertained in any manner. Men are not women, women are not men, and the rest of us shouldn't be forced to play pretend that they are.

>>89347567
>look at the absolute state of modern gaming the past 10 years and how shitty it is
The only shitty practices I see in gaming is the rise of gacha, and COD still releasing a new game every year. Neither have anything to do with more freedom in character creators.

>>89347596
Games never did this type of shit to this extent, stop gaslighting you fucking bitch. I’m not going to just sit by like you fucks and let these freaks ruin my entertainment

>>89347599
>nd the rest of us shouldn't be forced to play pretend that they are
So then don't. That's literally the entire point. Play a male character, that looks like a male, and has male pronouns. You're really struggling with this idea, huh.

>>89347623
“More freedom” and it’s actually more restrictive than ever before. lol get real, these fuckers who make up less than 1% of the population should not be pandered to this much

>>89347644
>Games never did this type of shit to this extent
D'nD/RPGs have been doing this for over twice your age little boy, kek

>>89347669
You’re just continuing to out yourself as a Twitter freak, probably one of those non-binary ruffians who came here to defend zirself

>>89347699
>you are now able to change/swap/customize settings you weren't able to in the past
>this is actually somehow having LESS freedom because...because it just is

>>89347713
Yeah no, nice revisionist history. Maybe give some examples instead of talking out your ass? Maybe your gay little dnd group that lets you pick your pronouns, but for everything else this has been corrupted

>>89347752
The only position I have given you so far is "you are a retard for bitching about pronouns in video games" kek. Which is correct, and you very much are.

>>89347759
Yeah because most people wanted “checks notes” to remove boy/girl and instead have a mix and match of bulky/thin with separate pronouns and different genitals. Fucking degenerate shit, only freaks who support this think it’s ok or it’s always been like this

>>89347801
Right back at you buddy. You were the first one to make a claim either way.

>>89347814
Imagine thinking pronouns is games is ok because it was pushed by Twitter freaks, low iq faggot

>>89347857
>Fucking degenerate shit, only freaks who support this think it’s ok or it’s always been like this
And that refutes the factual reality of character creators being more customizable than ever because...how, again?

>>89347857
>character creation "used to have" only boy/girl
>character creations now allow you to create boys and girls + everything in between
>this is a bad thing

>>89347909
Imagine crying about pronouns in games in any capacity ever. I hate you break it to you anon, but you have pronouns. A shocker, I know.

>>89347857
And none of this stops you from playing as a guy and having other characters call you a guy

>>89347873
I’ve already given examples, all you people have done is say “muh pol shit, it’s always been this way, it’s more inclusive.” So no actual arguments, just the usual cope since you’ve finally accepted that this shit happens in entertainment now instead of trying to wave hand it as a “conspiracy” which you can’t do anymore because of how obvious they’ve made it now. Literally supporting the people who are ruining modern gaming

>>89347929
More customizable is when you can pick pronouns and other shit nobody else asked for expect for terminally online freaks that don’t even know what gender they are

>>89347935
Yes, that’s the point. It’s a bad thing because literally nobody but those who complain online all day “asked” for it. More like they imbedded themselves in the industry to push these changes, and are being financed to do so by ESG initiatives

>>89348050
>More options = more customizability
Holy shit, he's getting it!! I'm really proud of you, anon. We didn't even need to break out the crayons this time.

>>89348050
Still waiting for you to explain how this is somehow removing options, btw

>>89347995
>Starfield
>Veilguard
These are the only examples you gave. Two games that allow you to also just be a regular ass dude, like you want. Really not helping your case here lmfao.

>>89347976
I don’t make pronouns my entire identity you fucking zoomer. Let me guess “everyone has pronouns it came with your language.” Get some new material already, seen it all on Reddit and Twitter already fucking tourist faggot

>>89348163
>I don’t make pronouns my entire identity
Instead you making bitching about them your entire identity, kek

>>89348163
>Imagine thinking pronouns is games is ok
>pronouns is [sic] games
This is why I replied to you the way I did, you autist. The only one ITT having an autistic meltdown over pronouns is you kek.

>>89348101
Imagine clapping like a brain dead monkey for this type of stuff in gaming. Guess it makes you low salary fuckers have some sense of purpose from not killing yourselves when you can self insert your own degeneracy in entertainment

>>89348150
They are examples, which you people asked for. So you’re just moving the goalpost because you have no further legitimate argument after getting btfo’d lmao. Get fucked

>this thread
i for one am a 1ruffian.

>The talents with the tranny colors have their fandom pretending to be girls
Who'da thunk it?

>>89348197
Nah only when these freaks manage to shove their nonsense into my escape like this, don’t need to see people outting themselves as trans or non-binary when asked if there’s any girls around

>>89348230
Pronoun obsession is a mental illness, people are required in work and schools now to sign their signatures with their pronouns and introduce themselves with it too. That’s fucking deranged, but what should you know fucking loser neet never been to college or worked a day in his lfie

>>89329976
They are homosexuals

>>89348335
>sees blue and pink
>"trannies!!"
why are you like this?

>>89345910
> girls are inherently cute
ur such a fucking beta male simp jesus christ get this onions shit out of here

>>89348424
Ask the people who thought that Milo was supporting it because she chose the flag in Among Us just because it had pink and blue colors

>>89348299
No, you retard. You took a shit behind the original "goalpost" and tried to use it as an example. This entire thread has been to tell you why those two "examples" are retarded because you can just play a male. You are too stupid to understand this however, and choose to instead get upset by this fact.

I unironically think everyone ITT should die.

Why are ruffians like this

>CCGDCT is attracting trannies
No way!

>>89348263
Imagine getting upset over something you have complete control over. Just pick male bro, it's really not hard. Unless, maybe you've got some sort of insecurity you need to get off your chest? People who make baseless claims about other people's salaries on the internet usually do after all.

>>89348492
Doesn’t even matter, the point is that the lgbt mafia of non-binaries and grooms ruin modern entertainment. You’re just purposefully ignoring it or support this degeneracy if you think there’s nothing wrong with it. Why did these people feel the need to announce that the’yre non-binary when the twins were asking for girls? Wanna answer that, or just gonna gaslight again because you don’t have a reasonable response to these freaks injecting their deranged ideology onto yet another form of pure entertainment

Oh this isn’t a fun thread okay I misunderstood

>>89348564
Nice cock bro

>>89348575
I don’t need to fucking have the option to pick male and he/him, that is so performative and retarded that it makes me drop it instantly

This thread is proof that letting trannys into any fandom is a mistake

>>89348678
>identifying as a male scares him
Anon...just say you're trans. The vast majority of society really doesn't care about you, it's okay to come out of the closet now.

>>89348735
Yeah, because some burger retard will go apeshit and shit up the whole place.

Why don't women engage with hobbies like vtubing as much as men do? Not to say they don't at all, but they're clearly outnumbered by a significant amount given all the statistics we've seen.
Tbh I think that the big gender divide in hobbies like this has a wider impact on society as a whole, but I still don't really know the reason for it
It's not like hololive is particularly "manly" or whatever else you'd consider to be stereotypically male

>>89348765
You shouldn’t have to pick a male body and then fucking male pronouns, it was never that way ever. It’s all performative nonsense to make people like you apparently lap it up because of how “progressive” these games are now

>>89348612
>You’re just purposefully ignoring it or support this degeneracy if you think there’s nothing wrong with it.
I think there's nothing wrong with it because there IS nothing wrong with it. Just pick male, or female, and play the game. Why is that so hard for you? You did it before, why can't you do it now? I did it just fine before and have continued to do that same.
>Why did these people feel the need to announce that the’yre non-binary when the twins were asking for girls?
Proof?

>>89348796
EU/SEA faggot

>>89348841
>performative nonsense
Yeah that's what gender is and always has been. Kinda the whole point. Anon, are you sure you're not pulling my chain here? I didn't realize you were so progressive!

>>89348822
Men have hobbies, women pretend to have hobbies

>>89348872
Well I literally cannot pick male/female anymore because it’s body type 1/2 now, Alzheimer’s hitting already or something? The proof is literally in the comments in their post, there’s plenty of people saying that they are non-binary and wish that the twins would be less focused on gender content

>>89348939
I didn't realize I was pretending to wear those mittens my girlfriend knitted me last year. Or the coasters she made. Crazy stuff anon.

>>89348923
Uh no, gender has always since the dawn of humanity had strict roles and identifiers. It’s performative nonsense to try blurring the lines against traditional gender roles

>>89348987
>Well I literally cannot pick male/female anymore because it’s body type 1/2 now
You've been bitching about pronouns. That's what we're talking about. Pick whatever body type you think looks "male". Unless, again, like I said before you need a sticker on one that says "MALE", because you're unable to make that decision for yourself.

>>89348996
You don’t have a girlfriend

>>89348996
I wish I had a girlfriend

>>89349034
>gender has always since the dawn of humanity had strict roles and identifiers
>performative nonsense to try blurring the lines against traditional gender roles
Just wait until anon learns about ancient cultures/anyone outside of America, kek

>>89348822
Vtubing is mostly supported by and based on the CGDCT adjacent side of anime. That shit has always had like 99% male audience. If you wanted vtubing to have a bigger female audience, you'd have to imagine what it'd look like if it had been instead based on the kind of anime that mostly women like.

>>89349072
Are you just being purposefully retarded or something? If it’s so obvious which is which between body type1/2, then why even change it? That’s the problem, shit shouldn’t be changed/altered/removed for no reason if it’s just going to be performative fart sniffing like that. It’s never been more complicated than picking boy/girl, now it’s 4 different body types with different genitals and surgery scars and other nonsense. Oh but having a boob slider is too misogynistic apparently

>>89349131
What’s your argument? All civilizations throughout humanity have had distinct gender roles

>>89349250
Again, because more customization is never a bad thing. You simply lack any sort of an imagination.

>>89349283
With many of them directly opposing the "gender roles" (western) you are obviously trying to push here. Gender is performative, by definition. Sex is not.

>>89349294
Literally nobody that matters cares about the “more options”, it’s not more options when 99% of people arnt going to care about them and never asked for it. Still not addressing the various features that get removed still huh

>>89349294
>more customization is never a bad thing
You’re getting less customization, dingbat, you just haven’t figured it out yet.

>>89349345
Sex and gender are the same, anyone who thinks otherwise has drown in the progressive koolaid

>>89349386
They are literally, by definition, not the same.

>>89349360
>>89349372
And those 99% still get to play the game exactly how they wanted to, with an extra 1% who also get to play the way *they* want to. And later down the road maybe some of that 99% will also want to play around and have fun with character creation (to use your retarded numbers).
We're still waiting btw >>89348125

>>89349416
I think what anon means to say is that, without mental illness or induced psychological distortion, your perceived sex should never differ from your actual sex, since your mind is part of your body.

>>89349498
Yeah no, those 99% of people absolutely do not “still get to play the way they want” when the customization and shit is all curated for the 1%

>>89348436
just dont be fat sis

>>89349564
>Pick a male looking body, call it a male, with all typical "male" features
>This is apparently shit customization now
Maybe I've had you wrong all along. Maybe you're saying that ALL characters should look like stereotypical liberals with colored hair, tattoos, piercings, and sex changes out their ass. Man you really ARE progressive anon. Sorry to hear your girl lost the election, hopefully that isn't what's making you seethe so hard right now over pixels on a screen.

>>89349715
Look at the character designs in Veilguard, literally ugly as fuck and designed for these freaks in mind who actually wanted these “more options” for customization. You can stop gaslighting now fucker, you lost

>>89348822
Nijisanji audience is almost 80% women. There's plenty of them, they're just watching a different kind of content.

>>89349807
>literally ugly as fuck and designed for these freaks in mind who actually wanted these “more options” for customization
>said customization
Once again. Your "argument" falls flat on its face when you can still make the same shit as you always could. The only one being gaslit here is you towards yourself.

Most Hololive fans are men, what exactly is the appeal for women? Even the Holo members that arnt pro-unicorn and/or do stuff with homos, still don’t have a massive female audience. Like Bae/Kronii/Ollie/etc still have a majority male fanbase

>>89349988
Those are fucking horrendous designs. And no, once again for fuck sake, the experience is not the same. I did not have to pick fucking pronouns and gender identity for games I used to play, we do not need to go through fucking mental gymnastics just to pick as playing a girl or boy

>>89349498
I can't make a character with big titties anymore thanks to troon devs

>>89349345
Just so you know the guy who detached sex from gender was John Money and he was a pedo. It's not science and never has been, it's made up bullshit by a con artist that got co-opted by feminist academics. The more you know.

>>89350093
Completely rent free lmfao. Here's another example. The internet is absolutely filled with them, all are totally normal. And I repeat, if you have to consider it "mental gymnastics" to call yourself a boy, that says more about you than anything else.

>>89350093
>we do not need to go through fucking mental gymnastics just to pick as playing a girl or boy
What mental gymnastics? What part of
>play as a guy
>tick the box saying you're playing as a guy
is hard to understand?

>>89349866
Oh, so bad content

>>89350284
“Totally normal.” Ok, that’s all I needed to hear that you’re part of the problem trying to cope about how shitty this stuff is now. Literal fucking shrek looking ass characters, and you think there’s no problem. It’s mental gymnastics when I have to pick an “ambiguous” body type that is obviously meant to be male or female but not stated as so to not offend anyone, then pick pronouns, then pick an identity, then pick “background” instead of fucking race like it should be because the US is so fucking sensitive with that word and slave

>>89331305
She's trying to plump up her chest, no need to be a meanie.

>>89350323
Picking a guy meaning picking male pronouns, that’s never how’s it’s been. I’m not going to pick myself as he/him or she/her if I want to play as a girl or boy because that’s so fucking gay

>>89350394
Anon, it's not mental gymnastics. You're just too lazy to play RPGs KEK. And you're also blind, apparently.

>>89350435
More like I’m not a brain dead consoomer who knows not to waste time and money with a piece of shit. I’ve been playing rpgs for literally more than 20 years, this shit in modern games is unprecedented and you are failing trying to gaslight by insinuating it’s always been like this

>>89350556
>insinuating it’s always been like this
Because it has. Imagination is not some new concept, retard lmfao.

>>89350597
“Imagination” and it’s just made up shit by neo-libs online who injected it into entertainment because every facet of their lives has to have this stuff in it. You’re boiling down this to just “imagination” no shit character creation is imagination. But you’re again just gaslighting trying to imply it was always like this, no games back in the day had you pick fucking pronouns and all this other degeneracy

>>89329976
Mister Doughnut tastes like shit

Why are FuwaMoco so stupid? They ignored their EN fans by catering more to JP fags, they catered to gachikois by not even acknowledging men, and now they want female fans? Feels like they’re gonna drop the ball for 2025

>>89350699
The Sims, Saints Row, Animal Crossing - I can go on but again there's literally no point, because this is such a non issue that it's hilarious it even needs to be brought up. Just stop being so insecure and pick "type 1"+"he/him" kek.

>>89329976
>femruffians are so fucking rare that they have to apologize for it

>>89350866
I'll keep watching games with brown DEI gender ambiguous monstrosities tank and laugh at it.

>>89350866
No, because again I’m not a brain dead consoomer that needs to buy and play the “next big thing” which Veilguard isn't even because it was a colossal failure lmao. Woke games are dying, more and more modern games are gonna go away from this type of “customization, so you can just seethe over it and go cry about Concord or whatever again

>>89351118
You have fun with that buddy. I'm sure letting this live rent free in your head is totally healthy and not at all a sign of insecurity.

>>89351135
>so you can just seethe over it and go cry about Concord or whatever again
The only one seething here is you over pronouns lmfao. Type your message again but try not to cry this time.

>>89351168
It’s not “rent free” when it’s being pushed all throughout entertainment, maybe come up with a new phrase to spam retard. Arnt even using the word in the right context, because there was something which prompted this discussion with non-binary freaks feeling the need to announce themselves which is exactly why modern gaming is the way it is

>>89351168
Pointing out that pink haired troons are ruining the AAA gaming industry is hardly letting it live "rent free" in my head. I just buy and play better games like Space Marine. The pendulum has already swung anyway, companies are ditching the social justice shit because it's losing them money hand over fist so we'll be back to normal soon

>>89351223
No, you having a autistic melty over pronouns is absolutely them living rent free in your head lmfao. You could just go on with your life and play games the same way you always have been able to. The only thing stopping you is an extra button press.

>>89351205
You’re seething pretty hard over someone calling out this nonsense in gaming, making up a false reality trying to argue that “oh it’s always been this way.” It’s never been this way, you’ve just deluded yourself into thinking it has been because it’s the only way for you to convince yourself that you arnt on the losing side

>>89351277
Kind of hard when most triple A games are trying to push for this shit, which is exactly why I and many other people stick with older games where this wasn’t prevalent at all. Pronouns are made up nonsense, there’s no need to complicate someone being a man or woman but here we are with you trying to justify it

>>89351254
>Space Marine
>companies are ditching the social justice shit
Oh man, if you hate that, you're gonna REALLY hate when you find out that Warhammer is anti-fascist and anti-totalitarian.

>>89351283
>because it’s the only way for you to convince yourself that you arnt on the losing side
I get to play more games than you do because I don't give a shit that I have to select "man" or "woman" lmfao. How am I losing again?

>>89351350
Let me guess your next line “muh media literacy.” God you are just a walking stereotype, actual fucking tourist out in the wild

>>89351404
>stating facts is actually tourism, some how
Need I remind you what board you're currently shitting up? This isn't /v/ you're the tourist here, I'm just stuck replying to you.

>>89351397
You get to play more shitty games than I do which are 70$ and buggy messes filled with woke shit. Congratulations? Not really a flex. Sure am glad I don’t force myself to play Outlaws or Veilguard or Starfield to miss out on such “great” modern gaming experiences

>>89351467
You talk like a literal tumblr stereotype, and this board is tourist central for 4chan so not really helping your case here. Fuwamoco would fucking despise you btw

>>89351350
I don't even care it's a good game without a single character talking about how they chopped their penis off and want to be referred to as Xe/Xer. You can talk about how it's actually a communist allegory all you like

>>89351466
Never once did I say I was going to play those games, specifically. I said that I *get* to play them. I'm not locked out of playing [insert random game] because of my mental illness. Here's an example of a "good" game for you. Did you know that Monster Hunter Wilds will let you use whatever body type and voice now? OOOOOO SCARY PROGRESSIVE CHARACTER CREATOR.

>>89351554
>I'm not locked out of playing [insert random game] because of my mental illness.
Rare for a troon to admit they're mentally ill. Good for you. Self awareness is key.

>>89351520
>You talk like a literal tumblr stereotype
Better to talk like your made up boogeyman than literally be a /vpol/tard.
>Fuwamoco would fucking despise you btw
And this is how I know you're really a tourist kek

>>89351554
Yeah and thats exactly the problem, this woke western shit is infecting foreign media too. Still not beating the tourist allegations

>>89344804
t. self assessed n5

>>89351605
>he's retarded AND illiterate
Not a rare combo, really. So no surprises there.

Quit arguing with the rainbow brigade, their ludicrous level of hypocrisy and inherently disingenuous stances get you nowhere.

>>89351621
You talk like a self-righteous cunt, that’s enough to oust you. Nah, they would hate you and all “people” that you are defending

>>89351644
>this woke western shit is infecting foreign media too
we're still waiting bud >>89348125
>Still not beating the tourist allegations
If you want your hugbox just go back >>>/v/

>>89351661
When the troon community has stellar exemplars like Chris Chan, throwing around accusations of critics of that ideology being retarded is just begging for the stones in glass houses retort

>>89351661
You literally said your own mental illness bud, it’s ok we don’t care if you’re autistic or a groom it’s blindingly obvious

>>89351350
Woke people are fascists and totalitarian so the game being against those things makes it sound even more based.

>>89351755
I’ve given you so many examples in this thread about what’s changed in modern entertainment like gaming, and you just pass it off every time as “oh it’s always been there you bigot.” Not my fault you fail to accept reality and what happening in the industry you blind sheep

>>89329976
They do probably have one of lowest percentages of female fans in EN, but that's really nothing to be ashamed of

>>89351791
Yes, yes, I know that sentence was hard for you to understand. Keep working hard at those English lessons.

>>89329976
I am a woman thoughbeit

>>89329976
They incest bait and pander to unicorns, what female is gonna enjoy that?

>>89351905
Spoken like a true SEA fag

>>89351758
>Chris Chan
Mental illness isn't mutually exclusive. The example you gave is a literal pedophile. Doesn't change the fact that you stroking out over the words "male" and "female" (or even the lack there of) in video games also makes you a diagnosed retard.

>>89351968
“Stroking out” and it’s just people calling out patterns of shit in entertainment. Again, stop being a blind consoomer

>>89351842
>I’ve given you so many examples in this thread about what’s changed in modern entertainment like gaming, and you just pass it off every time as “oh it’s always been there you bigot.” Not my fault you fail to accept reality and what happening in the industry you blind sheep
No, what you have not been able to answer is how adding options/the ability to use settings any way you want to a character creator is somehow, in reality, *less* customizable.

>>89351968
nta but aren't all troons pedophiles? I don't think I've ever seen one that wasn't.

>>89352009
>Again, stop being a blind consoomer
Once again. You have no idea how I spend my money. I could hate literally every game listed ITT for a thousand different reasons. My not having your mental illness over pronouns is not being a "blind consoomer."

>>89351968
>The example you gave is a literal pedophile.
Well yeah he's a troon, that's redundant

>>89352071
Why do pronouns have to be included in games? How does the inclusion of pronouns improve the experience of the average gamer?

>>89352021
I’ve already given you examples of both how they’ve removed stuff like breast sliders while completely changing boy/girl into body1/2. It’s not more customizations it’s blatant pandering propaganda designed to make people like you eat it up to “own le chuds” so you’ll blindly support whatever crap they churn out next. But the culture war is on my side, all these games have done horribly and these companies are literally considering selling to China. If you see and hear all that and still think the way you do, then you are just unironically retarded and never were a fan of anything. But I’m sure you’re gonna go in your discord and brag about how you owned so many chuds epic style on le 4chan anyway

>>89352125
Why can't pronouns be included in games? How does their removal improve the experience of the average gamer?
And before you once again act like a retard, your question has already been answered a hundred times. More customization = good thing, not bad thing.

>>89352071
The fact that you’re defending their inclusion this much and trying to still gaslight how they have “always been in gaming”, seems to be the opposite of what you are trying to say about being this supposed neutral party lol

>>89351929
dykes with an incest fetish maybe? there's got to be at least a few of them out there

>>89352065
Like 20% of men are pedos, so that doesn't mean much.

>>89352159
No, anon, you know what I'm going to do after this? Play games without caring about your retarded culture war kek.

>>89352196
Because they literally don’t add anything to the game except pandering points, that’s it and you still fail to understand

>>89352264
>once again proving he doesn't understand the concept of imagination
They add customization options you didn't have before. That’s it and you still fail to understand.

>>89352196
If all games start to cater to furries and you had to pick your fursona as a mandatory part of of character creation most people would think it's terribly retarded and damages the setting of the game by forcing some 21st century extreme left wing identity politics shit into settings that it makes no sense. Like if you had a realistic shooter game and there was a 2 minute dialogue about how Sergeant Chad McChadderson found out he has the spirit of a tiger or some shit. It does affect games in a negative way, more choices are not necessarily always good when said choices are being forced in to try and normalize a very dangerous ideology

>>89352217
>you are trying to say about being this supposed neutral party lol
In what world?? You are a retard for caring about pronouns in games. You have pronouns. You always did, and you always will. Play a girl if you want, play a boy if you want, play a girl that looks like a boy, if you want. It's a fucking video game. This is absolutely how it has "always worked", the only change is that more games now have better support for these options. Which, yes, is a good thing.

>>89352301
It’s options that less than 1% of players use, “more” is not always better. It’s propaganda designed to get people more accustomed to this shit in their daily lives. Literally multiple scenes about a character being “‘misgendered”, and you want argue it’s anything but pandering

>>89352393
“You always have pronouns.” There’s that Twitter talk again, trying to downplay the mental illness of people online who make it their entire identity. I don’t make it a point to say I’m a guy, that’s the whole fucking point. I don’t need to see it in games about how much of a point they want it to be that you can pick your precious pronouns despite picking a different body type that is obviously meant to be girl and boy

>>89352380
What a retarded analogy kek. Everyone has pronouns. Not everyone is an out and about furry. This isn't some smart logical leap you think you're making. No choice is being forced on you. You use the pronoun you chose for yourself (clearly, by accepting traditional gender norms) on a daily basis. To then chimp out over having to use it in a video game is pants on head retarded.

>>89352508
“No choice is being forced upon you.” Yeah expect choosing body type 1/2 and which pronouns to use, fucking contradicting yourself as usual

>>89352480
>the English language is Twitter talk
Retard
>I don’t make it a point to say I’m a guy
>that is obviously meant to be girl and boy
Ah yes, the "obvious" gender selection of character creators with monsters/non-humans as options. You select the pronoun so the game calls you that pronoun. It's literally that simple. This extends to normal humans and anything your imagination can come up with (which, as this thread has shown, isn't a lot).

I think all of you are retarded. That is all, peace.

>>89352508
>Everyone has pronouns
Yes and they're all tied to biological sex. If you're a man you're referred to as "he", if you're a woman you're referred to as "her". You don't "pick" pronouns for yourself because you can't pick your sex, you're born with it. If you take hormones and cut your penis off you're not a woman you just become a really ugly and mutilated man, and still a he/him

>>89352580
>choosing body type 1/2 and which pronouns to use
Exactly! You're getting it! You have the choice to select between so many options now. Nothing was forced upon you.
Imagine literally complaining about infinite freedom.

>>89352624
The word you're looking for is "gender" bud. Confusing concept, I know. I don't expect you to understand.

>>89352706
The idea that gender is different from sex started with John Money, noted pedophile sex researcher who caused his subject to commit suicide from his theories, truly an auspicious start to troonism but complete made up nonsense. Gender is sex and sex is gender.

>>89352620
You’re still trying to normalize pronouns usage bud, it’s not normal outside your bubble. People don’t greet themselves with he/him she/her in the real world. You’re obviously not a neutral observer like you claim you are, especially spouting the usual NPC response to the debate of “oh everyone has pronouns it came with your English language.”

I’m playing sonic, anyone know if there’s dei in this?

>>89352675
You’re still ignoring the point, you are literally forced to pick between this bullshit “not actually a man or woman” body type 1/2 with 2 pronouns

>>89352706
And this whole nonsense of differentiating between gender and sex, literal Twitter troon talking point word for word. Go 41% yourself, or maybe the number is higher now likely. You arnt fooling anyone

>>89352824
>it’s not normal outside your bubble
You and I both know you aren't the big man you think you are, and are too much of a pussy to "misgender" some trans person IRL kek. No, this is extremely normal, and normal people will just go with what pronouns they're told by someone, because there's no reason to not call them a male/female.
>You’re obviously not a neutral observer like you claim you are
Again, never claimed this lmfao. My claim is that you are a retard and so is everything you stand for. Really no clue how you keep coming to this conclusion. Maybe you just desperately want to be on my "side"?
>The English language is muh NPC rhetoric
Baffling response.

>>89352879
>forced to pick between male and female since the dawn of gaming
>now you get to pick between male and female, or anything in between
Again, still failing to explain how this is somehow a problem

>>89353060
>>89353105
Organic entities for sure

>>89353060
lol oh no the “dude” is gonna beat me up for misgendering “him”, sorry I don’t live in a shithole where misgendering someone gets you put in jail. Nah, if a guy says he’s a girl he’s getting called a guy and vise versa. No need to pander to mental illness, which is not normal btw. Maybe in your little bubble it is, but again go out in the real world and go get laughed at tranny fuck. You yourself fucking claimed to be neutral on this, my god you must be a woman with the amount of mental gymnastics you are doing to try convincing yourself you’re right. Absolutely lunacy, you people are losing the culture war btw

>>89353165
Post your membership, /vpol/ tourist

>>89353105
“Or anything in between” and there’s the problem. Nice you finally figured it out!

>>89353209
Fuwamoco disavow everything you stand for, how does it feel to know they hate everything you defend

>>89353105
I hope when you grow up, have a family of your own you look back on this phase you're in and think "what the fuck was wrong with me". You don't want these things in games because of your identity, you want them because you lack an identity and desperately crave one

>>89353206
>Nah, if a guy says he’s a girl he’s getting called a guy and vise versa. No need to pander to mental illness, which is not normal btw. Maybe in your little bubble it is, but again go out in the real world and go get laughed at tranny fuck.
Thank you for outing yourself as a NEET KEK.
>You yourself fucking claimed to be neutral on this, my god you must be a woman with the amount of mental gymnastics you are doing to try convincing yourself you’re right
I have claimed neutrality exactly zero times. Go ahead, show me where I did. And from the way you type, even if I was a woman my cock would still be bigger than yours.

>>89353249
>more options is the problem
Got it...so, you simply can't explain how having more options is actually a bad thing. You should have just said so from the start. Would have saved us both a lot of time.

>>89353290
>how does it feel to know they hate everything you defend
>he doesn't know
You really are a tourist huh...

>>89353330
Imagine being so up your own ass and propaganda within your safe space bubble, that you unironically think this type of behavior is normal

>>89353209
Post your neovagina first

>>89353298
>I hope when you grow up, have a family of your own you look back on this phase you're in and think "what the fuck was wrong with me". You don't want these things in games because of your identity, you want them because you lack an identity and desperately crave one
Holy projection. It's okay anon, you can talk about it if you want. I'm a pretty good listener.

>>89353358
Once again, for the fucking 10th time because you apparently have cognitive disabilities, it’s not made for more customization is made purely for pandering which is why it’s a problem. Fucking troops ruining gaming with shit like this, good thing they have such strong allies like you batting for them despite all the games “made for them” performing abysmally lol

>>89353396
Imagine being so jobless that you think it's not lmfao

>>89353435
I've seen enough troons recruited by discord cults to know what it's about. I'm comfortable with who I am, I think it's sad that many of these young people are being tricked into mutilating themselves as a solution for trying to self actualize.

>>89353453
>despite all the games “made for them” performing abysmally lol
By your own admission MH Wilds is "made for them" (when the reality is that both JP and EN fans have been begging to be able to use male and female armor sets on both body types for years) and that shattered records (and will continue to do so in the future). Gonna cry about that too?
And again, no, more options will never be a bad thing. No matter what "reason" your mental illness comes up with to explain why they got added to a game.

>>89353330
you reek of discord tranny insecurity
just because corporations are on your side does not mean normal people support you and your gay pedophile hero
your whole world view comes from a guy who sodomized 2 boys who later killed themselves and you think that's normal, yeah nice one faggot
>seethes at pol
you being a newfag was already obvious

>>89353472
You must live in some shithole like Seattle or California, but even then most people arnt fucking introducing themselves with their pronouns like it’s a normal thing. God you are so pathetic acting like it’s the norm, need this type of shit in entertainment because people in the real world won’t respect your pronouns. Mental illness for real

>>89353562
Oh yeah all those JP and EN fans in your head surely made a lot of complaints. Not that capcom has gone full woke by embracing butchering via localization and how they need to change their games for “modern sensibilities.”

>>89353607
I live in Ohio and work in arguably the most right-wing industry you can. We also have 2 trans people at my company. Wanna know how they're addressed? By their preferred pronouns. Wanna know why? Because normal people don't go out of their way to openly be assholes. This is why you're so painfully jobless.
>>seethes at pol
Correct, I'm "seething" at an election newfag like yourself for taking over this website.

>>89353604
see >>89353689

>>89353689
Is that what the trannies at work told you? You’re literally seething this entire thread about pol, easiest way to out a newfag tourist. You people will never be welcome in Hololive

>>89353715
Can’t even respond to people properly, man you’re making this so easy

>>89353741
I've been on 4chan longer than you've been able to type.
>You people will never be welcome in Hololive
>he doesn't know
Hilarious

Ironic how much troons say cultural appropriation is a problem yet they're the ones appropriating language and making it fit for their propaganda.
It's almost as if delusional men in dresses will never be women and their only way is coping by attacking everything that does not fit their mentally ill world view before they kill themselves.
>ermmmmm inglish haz pronoouns
Okay and? You're still a mentally ill man in a dress who wants to rape women, you trying to change definitions won't change that.

>>89353798
You’ve been for 4chan for 1 year max, don’t delude yourself. Mind pointing to who’s trans or non-binary in Hololive? That’s what I thought

Transgenders aren’t real lol

>>89353668
Seems like my "headcanon" is the reality given the game's popularity.

oh my god they just keep going back and forth

>>89353831
>Mind pointing to who’s trans or non-binary in Hololive?
>You people
Mind pointing to where I say I'm trans or non-binary? That's why I thought.

>>89353861
The game isint even out yet you stupid faggot, and of course it’s popular it’s a big series lmao. Its popularity was never in question, what was is this headcannon of yours about what the “fans” have been asking

>>89353923
>what was is this headcannon of yours about what the “fans” have been asking
It's okay, you can just say you've never played a Monster Hunter game before. They're quite niche after all.

>>89353914
Uh I said trans or non binary retard. What did you think I was implying, that Hololive doesn’t have any allies? Lmao good luck finding proof of that, especially not just bringing up ancient knowledge that everyone else knows about already that has changed

>>89332486
>dolorous
no one uses this word ever

>>89353970
Where’s your proof that people have been asking for this stuff, I have not said im a fan of the series lol. Pulling shit out your ass as usual

>>89353988
>You people will never be welcome in Hololive
Your words, retard. Not mine. Because, newsflash, "my people" are literally holo talents. As you yourself are clearly aware.

>>89354048
What do you even mean by people like you then, cause obviously you’ve concocted yet another shcizo mindset here

>>89353831

>>89354034
>Where’s your proof that people have been asking for this stuff
My proof is playing MH for the last 16 years. I'm not going to fucking dig up random tweets from users for you. Here, you want a hololive example? Fubuki plays a hunter with a male body with a female voice, because she prefers the male armor sets. If you had played even a *single* MH game you would know this is an incredibly common thing people have been asking for.

>>89354215
Let me guess the usual cope answer, Kronii which is again ancient news that has changed

>>89354093
Allies, you fucking autist. For you to claim that hololive doesn't have allies in it is completely laughable.

>>89354224
Oh so it all was just voices in your head, got it. Someone preferring to play a male body with female voice doesn’t mean they wanna play as a man that’s she/her, which is what I know you’re going to try to correlate. The example you provided is someone supposedly wanting to play a bulky character, doesn’t even necessarily mean male, but have a female voice. Making shit like armor sets or classes non-gender locked, is also not the fucking same shit as what we’ve been arguing about with pronouns because that’s purely a gameplay change

>>89354333
For you to claim Hololive does have allies in it, is so fucking retarded. Surely if there were allies they’d be more open about their beliefs towards gay and trans people publicly. Surely they wouldn’t continue to work for a company that disallows being progressive openly?

>>89354346
>is also not the fucking same shit as what we’ve been arguing about with pronouns because that’s purely a gameplay change
It absolutely is, because you equate "male sounding voice" to mean "must be used by males only". This is literally the crux of my entire argument. I have not budged from the start, having the option to do whatever the fuck you want with these added options is a GOOD thing. More customization = good, not bad. You crying a river over having to pick pronouns = retarded, not smart.

>>89353689
nice delusion you tranny, nobody actually thinks you're a woman, pretending just to not lose their jobs does not count
now that Trump won so enjoy your pedo friends getting killed off and no I am not american so seethe even harder
good of you to admit that your ideology is just based on a pedohplie molesting 2 boys and having them commit suicide at least you're consistent in your mental illness

>>89354395
Holy fuck it's insane how much of a tourist you are. How did you even find this thread? Did someone link it in whatever /pol/ thread you came from? hololive is filled with lesbians. It doesn't get more ally than that.

>>89354471
And right on cue here you go trying to equate pronoun bullshit into something actually legitimate like armor sets being gender locked.

>>89354508
>zir fell for the business yuri

>>89354555
Sorry retard, you don't get to take my argument and use it when you think it's convenient for you. All of this falls under """"""woke""""""" shit you hate. I'm the one telling you you're retarded for caring rather than fighting for more freedom to choose.

>>89354508
HAHAHAHA ACTUAL RETARD THINKING HOLOLIVE IS FILLED WITH LESBIANS. Let me guess, you also believe that the twins fucked each other too. God you are so easily deceived

>>89354592
>he literally doesn't know
Please, just go back >>>/pol/
or maybe stay and actually watch streams, vtubers are really great, maybe one day you'll learn that

>>89354333
>>89354395
bot activity desu
Who the fuck says "allies" outside of twitter, even with though vt is filled with monkeys and newfags you still don't belong here
go back

>>89354607
You’re the one that brought up the monster hunter example… it has nothing to do with woke pronoun shit because it’s purely a gameplay element where people can mix and match more classes. There is no equivalent of that to picking your fucking pronouns in a character creator

>>89354641
>>89354647

>>89354647
God you are in deep, let me guess you also took the Kanata fake bait that she supports non-binary people too right

>>89354395
Does he know?

>>89354710
>it has nothing to do with woke pronoun shit because it’s purely a gameplay element where people can mix and match more classes
Once again, I know you've never played a monhun game in your life but again, it's identical and here's why. There is functionally, zero difference between the male and female armor sets. Even more so, what people want freedom over is called "layer armor." This armor gives you exactly *zero* stats, and is purely for decoration. Just like oh, I don't know...picking how your character looks and their pronouns. Do not speak on things you know nothing about. It makes you look like an even bigger idiot than you already are (a very impressive feat, really).

>>89354747
Gonna try giving examples? Or just continue doing this shit cause you know that every girl in Hololive despises the fuck out of you freaks

>>89354793
I never claimed to play monster hunter, you’re the one arguing that I’m pretending to be some fan or some shit lmao. Imagine comparing wanting to chance what armor set you wear, to fucking picking your imaginary character’s pronouns lol. This level of delusion is truely out of the world. Also nice larp on living in Ohio, it’s fucking almost 4am there ain’t no way you’re not some shit neet on the west coast larping it up

>>89346795
>do that better
>less than 50%

Do you not learn math?

>>89348436
fucking tsundere

This really feels like a /u/schizo baiting for doxx, kek

>>89354919
>Imagine comparing wanting to customize your character, to wanting to customize your character
Yeah, fucking wild comparison, huh anon. Keep moving that goalpost though. Wanna know why it's also a great comparison? Because autists like you also complained that females can wear male armor and use the male voice set, and vise versa.
>Also nice larp on living in Ohio, it’s fucking almost 4am
As if I'd doxx myself to you lmfao. I watch holoJP streams. I'm always up at this time of night.

>>89340954
Real females or used to have balls and cock "females" ?

>>89355034
You’re the only one moving goalposts, you lost the argument about pronouns in games so you brought up something completely different with monster hunter to try derailing the argument into something else that has nothing to do with what was originally being said. You literally said yourself you live in Ohio so yeah. Being up at almost 4am to watch streams on a Monday, claims to have a job working with troons. Hmm seems mighty sus, almost like it’s a larp like I said

>>89355113
You wanted examples, I gave you examples. Don't get pissy just because the example doesn't fit your narrative kek. And again, I don't care if you believe me or not, I'm not doxxing myself to prove it. Doesn't change the fact that you are still unable to explain why having as much customizability as possibly in games is a bad thing. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if you also thought the same about accessibility in gaming.

>>89355113
>claims to have a job working with troons
NTA, but you must work some waggie job or something. The tech industry is literally filled with them (and regular gays). Shit, the internet you're using at this very moment is held up by furries. You're pretty oblivious to how the corporate world works anon.

>>89355203
I never asked for examples… again, you’re the only one bringing up different shit. And here we go finally 360d back to your original cope that I’ve already answered how all this “customization” is just performative nonsense to make monkeys like you clap about how progressive gaming has become. Yes accessibility is cancer in gaming, I don’t need to see yellow lines everywhere or trigger warnings or story mode for retarded fucks that shouldn’t even be playing games anyway

>>89355291
I literally work in IT and it’s just a bunch of boomers and millennials, none of them are furrys or faggots or troons. The meme that it’s all held up by them is internet cope exacerbating their existence

>>89355345
All that text when you could have just wrote "Yes, I am a gigantic asshole online and in real life, thank you for pointing it out." Character creation *is inherently* performative nonsense. I once again bring into question you playing RPGs since you fail to understand what this mean.
>Yes accessibility is cancer in gaming
You really are the worst type of person kek.

>>89355203
Why you keep talking about dox, you’re the one who mentioned where you live and nobody asked you to prove it one way or the other. Do you have a degradation fetish or something

>>89355387
It's really not though. There is a disproportionally high number of gays/troons/furries who work in tech/IT as compared to other professions. The "coding socks" thing isn't just a meme.

>>89355470
Because it was brought it up, you fucking retard >>89355470
>You must live in some shithole like Seattle or California

>>89355427
You are just a sorry pathetic excuse of a man, can’t even own up to outting yourself as an ally but have to put on this performative nonsense about how “its just the norm” when it’s not. Your side lose massively and continues to lose the culture war, all this shit in gaming is gonna get reversed in due time as we continue to see flops like concord and Veilguard. I never argued that character creation was or wasn’t performative nonsense, what I argued is that putting useless options like pronouns and body types replacing male and female is what’s the issues because it doesn’t add anything when being able to chose male or female has always been there. The problem is that it’s now dragged out how you chose whether to be male or female that makes it ridiculous. And yeah developers wasting time and resources making their games “more accessible” is retarded, because it’s again just an instance of pandering to literally less than 1% of people who arnt even going to buy the game anyway

>89355609
uh oh, melty

>>89355494
It is a meme, stop falling for this shit online

>>89355570
>guessing where you live is apparently the same as you saying yourself where you supposedly live

>>89355639
>can’t even reply properly, again

>>89355609
>can’t even own up to outting yourself as an ally
???????? >>89354333
>all this shit in gaming is gonna get reversed in due time as we continue to see flops like concord and Veilguard
2 more weeks, amirite
>The problem is that it’s now dragged out how you chose whether to be male or female that makes it ridiculous
It's one button press you fucking sperg lmfao
>And yeah developers wasting time and resources making their games “more accessible” is retarded, because it’s again just an instance of pandering to literally less than 1% of people who arnt even going to buy the game anyway
Pray you never have kids with disabilities. Not that you'll ever have kids in the first place.

>>89355681
>correcting a retarded anon to prove a point is NOT ALLOWED ON 4CHAN