/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>891197
she wrote it, rrat

>>891197
like the other guy said, like 99% of them don't write their own material. when you can do that, you get more offers to do stuff like this.

>>891197
Are u upset

>>891197
You applied to HoloEN 2 and got rejected didn't you?

>why is Kobe Bryant ranked better than Vince Carter, as a player Vince can dunk better and has higher ups.
Same reasoning applies, work ethic.

Despite being in hololive for roughly 6 months, Mori has produced more original songs than any holo in their whole career

>>891378
Hard work is part of it. But also you have people who seriously think talent is just handed to anyone and they could write a bunch of good songs like Mori does if they felt like it, but of course they never do it. Turns out, this shit isn't as easy as she makes it look.

>>891442
Which is why I used the Kobe example. He wasn't really as physically gifted as those in his position, but due to his insane work ethic and dedication to his craft, which is why he lasted that long.

Because she is the Sora of holoEN.
Cover wants to use her so badly they even started shoehorning her into other holos songs, like Watame's.

It's all part of Sora's grand plan

>>892434
to be fair she is also the most liked hololive EN in JP both by jp fans and jp talents, she has a unique image, can deliver on her hype and has that proper JP work ethics of working yourself to death

>>891197
She's the second best singer in EN. Ina and Amelia can't sing to save their lives, and Kiara's voice is grating and has a strong accent

>>892903
Why EN though? It is a fucking japanese song? Sora? Azki? Suisei? They all can sing it better than Mori.

>>891378
>>891442
>>891571
Its her bazongas. She gets work because if her bazongas.

>>893672
Cover didn’t want to play favourites with the JPs, so they got someone else to do it. I don’t think her voice is bad. In her recent members stream, Mori said she was as surprised as anyone and that she would have liked to hear Suisei do it

>>892903
Ina is not great, but don't put her with Amelia

>>893672
Again it circles back to the Kobe Bryant vs Vince Carter argument.

Suisei and Azki can sing it better, but can they produce it better? Can they write English lyrics for it? Can they prepare for it while doing multiple streams, while recording what? 5 songs?

>>893936
Could you stop with the /sp/ bullshit, no one cares about your jumping retards with a ball. Get the fuck out of here you stupid jock, go bully people somewhere else.

>>893936
The song is in japanese and Mori only provides the lyrics and vocal. She didn't produce it.

>>893964
seething manlet

>>893968
Still, the accolades and work ethic goes well into Japanese corporate structure. Them seeing a gaijin internalize that philosophy would be why the JPs appreciate her

>>893964
>Kobe
>Jumping retard
The guy is the one exception, anon.

JPbros, how heavy is her accent?
It sounds pretty convincing to my uneducated pleb ears.

are people seriously comparing Karen with Kobe? Kobe was actually good at basket ball, Karen isn't really good at making music. Hard work doesn't always lead to outstanding results.

>>894642
You just outed yourself, Chilean. You're that guy who always replies to her tweets saying Who cares like an idiot.

>>894493
Her accent is really heavy when talking in Japanese, it's relatively light when singing but still noticeable.

>>893964
who uses jock as an insult lmao

>>893827
I mean she's got some nice bazongas so it's her merit.

>>891197
Honestly Anon how exactly are you judging she is good or not at music/singing? because i always see in this board in particular the idea of "Mori can't sing/rap" but then i see profesional rappers reacting to her music and explaining on a technical level as to why they are good, and i am not saying i don't believe you but i am more incline to trust people with credentials than anons

>>891197
You do realise you’re one of those jealous haters out there that Calli doesn’t give a shit about?
Stop tweeting start creating doesn’t just apply to actually tweeting, it also applies to posting on 4chan

>>891197
Anon she does sound good. Stop being retarded just because you hate Mori.

>>893964
>no one cares about your jumping retards with a ball.
>go bully people somewhere else.

>>891197
She sounds awesome.

>>892901
>she is also the most liked hololive EN in JP both by jp fans and jp talents
Where do you people get your info from? Are there polls about this stuff or are you just making it up and sell your own intuition as fact?

>>895367
At a minimum, isn't she the only HololiveEN oshi of a HololiveJP?

>>892434
Watame requested her for the song.

>>891197
Cope

>>893672
Who did you think wrote it

>>895367
The JPs love her >>861257

I like it desu. Good for her

>>895204
>professional rappers

>>895367
lol Suisei fucking loves her and many regard her as cool like Marine stream showed. But there were signs of this way back when En-Jp had their set of among us collabs

>>899593
oh look, the /pol/tard is here.

>>899593
Whether you agree or not with it being a thing is very different from it not being a thing Anon

>>899603
/pol/? Lol. Never said there was no professional rappers but I doubt the people that heard Mori's rap are professional. Stop outing yourself mutt.

>>899686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNOAhBmhcqg&t=197s
>Has several record labels listed
>Has released discs
>Has made official music videos for his songs

I Think he objectively applies as a professional anon

>>893964
don't worry anon, the jocks and chads can't hurt you here

>>899738
With those kind of videos he is reacting to, I kind of doubt it. Also, you think anyone that has released discs and MV are professionals?

>>899805
Objectively speaking? yes

>>899805
Yes, they are. So long as they do it for a living and is associated full-time to the record label.

>>893672
It's part of a sponsorship with EN specifically retard

>>894642
>karen
go back

>>899845
>>899849
Oh so objectively, someone who is a weeb and bad at rapping can also become a professional if he does it for a living?

>>895204
who cares whether or not she's "technically good" it just doesn't sound good and that's what matters

>>899923
Yes that's what professional means dumbass

>>891197
My boy is the most talented Holo. How can literally anyone even compete?

>>899924
>My opinion is objective
>technical analysis is subjective.
KEK.

>>900035
Anyone who puts Microsoft Office on their resume needs to absolutely die.

>>899854
Then just have the shark sing it, no? Unless Calli wrote the song, you'd think it'd make the most sense to have the relative best singer of the group do it.

>>900097
....anonchama, Mori also wrote the song. Full lyrics even.

>>900072
https://youtu.be/0N_RO-jL-90
This rap is objectively good. Lots of professional rappers like it and the technical analysis on this is phenomenal. Anyone that hates this are fags.

>>900088
So, do you know how to set up a Sharepoint Server using MS Office?

>>900122
Yes. Mori wrote it and can let Gura sing it.

>>900139
>uses meme channel as example
So you've outed yourself as a retard.

>>900035
Not sure about the rest of the Holos but she's definitely the most talented En.

>>900144
I can google it like a normal human being. Also, not a lot of people use MS Office like that. Don't fool yourself.

It's okay to be retarded

>>900161
keep crying. Mori now lives Rent-free in your head.

>>900186
>I can google it.
So you do not have the right to say that you know MS Office.

>>900168
I didn't use Mori's channel anon. I use one of the most popular rapping channel on youtube. People on the channel did hours of research for historical figures to rap against each other. Many professional rappers like it.

ITT: Mori anti now LARPing as a /mu/sicanon.

>>900223
I can bet even Mori don't know how to do that. She's literally lying to people for putting that there.

>>900072
I didn't say my opinion was objective I said I don't care about "objectice" analysis because either way it just sounds bad (to me)

>>893964
Lmoa get locker'd nerd.

>>900288
You're not Cover, Suisei, and all the JP holos.So fuck off.

>>899923
You were given the definition are you illiterate anonchama?

>>900088
T. Never worked with officlets
I hate teaching people how cut and paste works.

>>900161

>>900405
Sorry anon but I work for a tech company.

>>900444
So, you, The IT guy. thinks that everyone knows how to differentiate Sleep and Hibernate?

>>900476
Not that much difference nowadays especially with laptops.

>>900035
Can she wrestle in illegal backyard tournaments?

>>900528
Kiara can. For money of course.

>>900336
mad lol

>>899923
retard-kun, maybe you should go back to middle school if you're getting this filtered by a basic concept

>>900959
>Yes, because you got proven that you have no control over Cover Corp's own PV, I would be seething.
really good logic, anon.

>>900254
This is always the funniest shit
t. /mu/tant

>>900035
Well that’s actually not so scary. I can add these to my cv in a couple years

>>891197
Mori probably have as much music production experience and industry connection as Cover itself. She have all the chances of owning part of the company by the end of the year if she have at least an ounce of business sense.

>>891197
seethe

lol are you frustrated op?
rent free.

>>899923
This is probably the same Takoshart who tried to claim Ina isn't a professional artist

>>891197
Seethe

>>902040
Ina is a pro artist. She worked with a gacha company officially.

>>901914
Okay maybe ease off the koolaid there buddy

>>900035
She can do everything what Gura and Ina can, plus a bunch of other stuff. Only downside is she's a little autistic.

>>902672
>downside
For holos it's an upside. Aqua got to million on pure autism.

>>900161
Shitposting aside, I would like to have this.

>>903595
>Hmm, i need something that rhymes with "cute and funny".
What could it be?

>>900523
oh if i had a dollar for every time someone calls me because they can't enter their password despite i've already told them several times how it works

Saying this as someone who works in music production, Calli obviously has skill when it comes to various components of production both audio and visual and as a lyric writer and vocalist is pretty decent.

Being a good vocalist is overrated anyway, it helps but it's still just an "instrument", esp with regards to rapping, flow and meter and cadence are more important.

I'm not super big into the whole J-rap thing, partly because it's a little poppy but also because sometimes some of the instrumentals can sound a little mawk-worthy, Please RIP for example, isn't particularly abrasive and is contemporary of soundcloud/lo-fi rap, so its clean production and conventional instrumentation sound a little aloof of the current rap scene.

So it undercuts the whole "anime reaper who's gangster" kinda vibe it's going for. Also Calliope says the fuck word a lot but it mostly feels like it's thrown in her songs to give them a bit of bite rather than because it's a necessary addition, which also makes her lyricism and character feel a little clownish at times.

Despite that, I still think she's pretty talented but I think there's a reason most of the enthusiasm is contained mostly to people who would consider themselves anime fans first and music consumers second.

Fwiw, I thought the most interesting track was Reaper, Rapper, the one where iirc, the music and mixing is also done by her.

>>905514
Yeah, majorly agree. Thanks for putting this into words, quality critique.

>>905514
You might want to check her pre-hololive stuff if you want to listen to her without the anime girl aesthetic

>>893827
That's probably only like, 20% of the reason.

>>905709
nah, Calli always had the anime girl aesthetic because at the end of the day she's still an otaku millenial
it was just a more cartoony and edgier one, but considering she grew up in times when one of the bigger anime runs was PSG, that doesn't even come as much of a surprise

>>905514
I always say people undersell Reaper ka Rapper a good bit, but it really displays her ability to weave a fairly interesting flow to a simple backing track and adding improv-like bits to enhance the humor of the lyrics themselves
ends kinda flat though, even if it was the point of the joke

>>905514
>Also Calliope says the fuck word a lot but it mostly feels like it's thrown in her songs to give them a bit of bite rather than because it's a necessary addition, which also makes her lyricism and character feel a little clownish at times.
"I need two syllables / fuck it I'll say 'fuckin' again"

>>905514
Anon this is /vt/ , it's not necessary to put this amount of effort for a LARP.

>>893827
waiting for Noel to surpass the rest of JP

>>892434
Calli since joining Hololive is already one of the most prolific members making original songs. She's a hard worker.

>>893964
lol cry more

>>891197
Mori, can you stop making threads to criticize yourself? You have one up already.

>>891197
>She doesn't even sound good.

>>893827
Using that logic noel would literally get to do everything.

>>892434
Watame literally asked her you lying piece of shit.

>>893964
LeBron's the GOAT

*dabs*

>>910194
Yes

>>891197
Is Mori the most talented ENtuber?

>>911770
>LeChina
Get out West Taiwan

>>892434
>Cover wants to use her so badly they even started shoehorning her into other holos songs, like Watame's.

that's because her songs are easily the most listened to of hololive (everyone) across platforms. and when I say "easily" i mean like she had 3 of the top 10 most listened to HoloLive original songs last year including the no.1 spot with R.I.P, which is still easily the most listened to hololive original (in fact it's more listened to then the covers as well, though maybe all the covers of king added together might overtake it).

success and popularity == demand. she's highly popular, and highly successful. I mean a freaking vtuber took the no.1 spot on the fucking itunes store for a few days. I don't care how much the deadbeats simp for her, that's literally nuts.

>>899923
>does it for a living

i think this is the part that's not registering in your head. I can release an albumn or write and self publish a book right now, this moment.

That does not mean anyone will listen to it. While technically I've done the things that make you an author or singer, my inability to feed, house and cloth myself with my writing or singing prevents me from being a professional.

If you support your lifestyle and can work full time as a rapper, then you're a pro. no other way to look at it.

>>893964
I never had a Jock call me a nigger tranny on the internet, only nerds have.

>>895020
Does American English accents sound good in Japanese or just silly.

>>893827
correct

>>891197
Can you do a better job anon?

>>893672
Priconne EN is going hard for EOP cash since it's Crunchyroll's game division

>>916355
So it’s really skill+marketing

>>906169
A lot of her current things are mentioned in her previous work. Quotes are all lyrics form her roommates songs.

"back in ze day" which she says all the time.

"Imagine that I climb that mountain and the summit is empty" Shows how far she has grown with the lyrics in her new song beckoning others to meet her at the mountaintop.

"Idol rapper is such an oxymoron" Kek, though she has talked about milky queen changing her outlook on this.

There are probably more I haven't caught yet too.

>>906169
>>920800
"Why you gotta curse in every verse that you rap in? Excessive use of `motherfucker` just to fill all the gaps in"

im only upset because they put autotune in it. calli has a good voice and that ruins it

>>895020
its an act. someone living in japan for years wouldn't have that

>>891378
mori does hard work, but i think she deserves the credit shes done anyways. its easy to shit on her because she mainly likes rap, but you can tell that she cares about her stuff. it isnt saying the other members dont, but mori is a producer also, and that accelerates the process. if you know how to produce beats and music, then youre set. thats what mori has right now

>>920885
Autotune is standard for 90% of pop songs now. It's just the way the industry is