/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>8855368
It's just westoids coping about japan ebul idol culture xddd
They hate anything Japan while ignoring what they're actually fucking watching.

>>8855368
If you mean by that ESL that made that specific thread, i think it's an Anti from 5chan lmao, probably couldn't get any (you's) from their own board

>>8855368
Niji nips
Go join their chat

>>8855368
Self-hate by people here because they want to be Japanese.

>>8855368
One of their frontliners isn't a grandma sounding wigger and has a more generically appealing designs and voices to mainstream fetishes.

>>8855368
You've been listening to globalfag copium. Vtubing is a Japanese industry.

hot take: who gives a fuck what the japanese think?

>>8855368
The grass is greener and not knowing the language to know the rrats helps.
Korone for NND and the JPs is equal to nyaners or Shachi, Korone for the west is le cute wholesome doggo. The reverse is also true.

>>8855368
Anyone saying otherwise is a weeaboo in the actual definition of the word, or as people in this thread are saying, a falseflagging nip
>If anything they seem more excited about EN than they are about their own people
This applies for westerners and JP

>>8855368
People think "White Piggu Go homu" is what EVERY Japanese person thinks

>>8855807
no it's not faggot

>>8855700
> Industries Japan stole from the US;
Automotive, electrical, robotics

> Industries the US is stealing from Japan;
Cartoon streamers

>>8856098
The first car was made by a German so sit down and shut the fuck up.

>>8856040
It is retard.

>>8856098
Don't forget: Animation

>>8856142
Yeah but Benz didn't have mass production.

>>8856040
>no it's not faggot
>>8856149
>It is retard.

/vt/ discussion in a nutshell.

>>8855368
Major offenders of this nonsense:
Nijisisters
Hololiveanti (general no matter allegiance)
JSL (SEA or otherwise weeb that wish they were Japanese and think that "hardcore" 5ch, 2ch opinions are the majority of the Nation of Japan)
drama fucks

many such cases, sad

Doing reps in a new language is an important part of the appeal of chuubas. Seems pretty based to me.

>>8856098
>>8856222
Tezuka literally made atro boy from looking at "Betty Boop" so technically America didn't "steal" anime so much as they reclaimed it after Japan refined something they already created.

>>8855368
>EOPs watch clips and praise nip girls
>JOPs watch clips and praise en girls
we're not so different, you and i...

>>8856258
...Side milk?

>>8856353
Almost as if people wish to see new and different concepts and cultures in their entertainment.

>>8856268
That's why I, already a master of Japanese, have taken up learning Indonesian thanks to VTubers so I can understand what they're saying.

>>8856457
>already a master of Japanese
Right...
but at least the rest is admirable, they'll probably be glad you did and the new generation next year too

>>8856258
But I can find JOPs being happy to watch Petra for English exercises.

>>8855807
worth nothing this still only applies to the 2% of the base that lives in the /vt/ or 5ch echo chambers. most fans don't care about rrats and seem to be unconditionally supportive of talents on both sides of the pond

>>8856799
It's amazing how salty Petra makes EOPs. I always tell them to go back to VShojo. Don't watch a VTuber from a Japanese company if you don't want to hear Japanese.

>>8855368
Do they know she's Korean?

>>8864013
Japanese people love Koreans you idiot, go watch Gran Torino or something and learn how to become a good person.

>>8855368
Japanese men are a naturally submissive bunch.

Japanese men also fetishize foreigners/the other, just like American men fetishize non-majority races.

So Kronii, a cold narcissistic lewdly-dressed sadistic foreigner, is a good fit for them.

>>8866936
>Japanese people love Koreans you idiot
Retard

>>8864013
There’s plenty of Japanese people who consume Kdrama and Kpop while still hating Korea and vice versa with Koreans that hate Japan watching anime and playing Jap games

t. been to both countries several times

Go read the comments on Jap clips of Gura. Several of them say they have started learning English because of her

>>8867260
I play chinese gacha games and hate china

>>8867629
then you don't hate china, you're just a schizoid

>>8855431
Do Japanese people even use the term "idol culture"? The way it's used on reddit you might think idol industry is somehow deeply connected with Vtubers and hololive is pretty much AKB.

>>8855368
>I'm not sure where this misconception that Japanese people hate ENs comes from
People here just love pretending Japan isn't a nation full of westaboos

>>8855368
ALRIGHT! now all of Japan will have valley girl accent!

>>8870486
Japanese prefer proud westerners over weebs

>>8867415
How am I supposed to read those? I don't know Japanese.

>>8870672
>proud westerners
does such a thing even exist anymore?

>>8869228
It's a dumb buzzword made by people who hardly even understand what they're trying to describe. Go figure.

>>8855368
Kronii's voice is so sexy it transcends language

>>8856387
Side booba.

>>8855677
>One of their frontliners isn't a grandma sounding wigger
Anon, Mori is popular as fuck with japs especially because of her voice. 5chan was cooming to it just other day when they were watching that Mario Kart tournament.

>>8856387
Literal oceans of milk in her Jupiter titties.

>>8869228
I've accepted that when people say "idol culture", what they mean 99% of the time is "love ban"
It's genuinely so weird to see redditors have dick measuring contests about and try to one-up each other on just how casual and uninvested they are to try and shut down evil idol cult

>>8869228 #
I've accepted that when people say "idol culture", what they mean 99% of the time is "love ban"
It's genuinely so weird to see redditors have dick measuring contests about and try to one-up each other on just how casual and uninvested they are to try and shut down evil idol culture
Mind you the minute anybody raises content criticism the same people become unapologetic sycophants

It's like it's become a contest to see how low their standards can go

I think that misunderstanding is due to the influence of 5channel niji-sanji fans.
They called EN and Korone's hits "flirtation with foreign countries," "English chatting is weird," and "we're only popular with Japanese and foreigners don't count.
To my surprise, I was once told by a follower on Twitter that "Hololive is gaining subscribers by flirting with foreign countries.
I was very shocked by this.
I believe that you have imported such comments.

As a result, NijiSanji EN failed to create a boom and became a nest of rotten girls who "can't even flirt with foreign countries.

However, it is true that Hololive EN as a whole is not really talked about in Japan.
This is because it is natural and inevitable to talk more about people whose language you understand, and also because there is a tendency that talking about vtubers is bad otaku.
I think it stands out because only favorable people's comments appear due to this unique Japanese disregard for streamers.
For example, PaPapako didn't seem to have seen vtubers until Sana debuted. It's not that widespread.

>>8872791
Only when Americans need an excuse to be smug, then suddenly they're proud of their country. After that it's right back to worshipping the East.

>>8855368
I will be totally honest and not even attempt to not tribalfag, but it's mostly coming from Nijiniggers acting like elites because their only source of entertainment has been constrained to JP until NijiEN.

I've said this before, but maybe Cover hired Aussies this time to have EN streams at more accessible hours for the Japanese audience. If that wasn't the intention then it's gonna be a side benefit. Let's see if they get more JPY superchats than the others later on.

you guys shouldn’t think 5ch as japanese opinion.
they are almost scizo, general fan don’t go to there.

>>8875112
>PaPapako didn't seem to have seen vtubers until Sana debuted. It's not that widespread.
Fool, he does not know the joys
he will

I will never forgive the Japanese because they bullied Towa's deep sexy voice, and now I had to deal with her faux-idol voice.
Nipponniki, kirai!

>>8856098
why are ameritards so self-centered?

>>8869228
People who use "idol culture" don't actually watch/consume shit about idols except for a few random articles they read online.

>>8875303
Shit take, it's literally just so they can capitialize better on English speaking countries in (near) that time zone (NZ and AUS) obviously the mistake the made was not getting a real brit (Ame) in time for EN or now even EN2, getting a UK talent in Cover would be complete common wealth saturation.

>>8864013
Do you think that matters? KPOP groups do great in Japan especially if they bother learning the language like TVXQ did.

>>8875112
>As a result, NijiSanji EN failed to create a boom and became a nest of rotten girls who "can't even flirt with foreign countries.
これはどういう意味?ちゃんと日本語でtskr

>>8864013
Current Generation of Japanese don't give a single fuck about Korea in that manner, China is probably the only country current Japanese still have a grudge with.

>>8875303
Doesn't Mori get good amounts of JPY superchats/

>>8875112
>As a result, NijiSanji EN failed to create a boom and became a nest of rotten girls who "can't even flirt with foreign countries.
what are you smoking

>>8875737
This. But I have noticed slowly overtime that Towa started to not give a fuck again (in a good way). She just does what she wants to do even collabing with dudes in Apex for tournaments. Maybe she'll go back to using her normal voice one day. Suisei and another holo (I can't remember who) had to stop the "cute voice" crap because it was destroying their throats.

>>8855368
Japanese streamers are for the English speakers. English streamers are for the Japanese. Always has been.

>>8876013
KR watches some EN, does Russia watch some EN?

>>8875766
Corn syrup on the brain plz andastand

>>8876073
Russians watch the JPs. They went to Botan, Ars, and sometimes Aki.

>>8856336
how did they 'reclaim" it exactly?

>>8875734
Are you sure you're not confusing pako with huke?
It's rare to find someone who wanted to design a vtuber as much as huke did.

Sorry for the analogy. I'm sorry.
A more appropriate example of YouTubers and vtubers not being liked in Japan might be if you watch vtubers apologize for their projects.
You can see it when Mikoti did a Yuzusoft stream, or when Korone did an old JRPG stream.
Same-chan wouldn't say "some people might be disappointed with me eating Taco Bell", would she?

I think you can tell by the number of fanart.
How much fanart do you have from your country?

Content properly means "number", right?
It's not about clicking or writing.

>>8875112
If you're Japanese, shut the fuck up.
If you're not Japanese, shut the fuck up anyway.

>>8855368
>I'm not sure where this misconception that Japanese people hate ENs comes from.
Weebs. Just weebs. They make shit up all the time because they hate anything not Japanese.
The /jp/ sperg does that shit all the time, and I know for a fact he does it here.

>>8875112
日本人?

>>8875893
I've seen a lot of 18+ models following Mori. I think it's only because they like the way she talks, thinking she's tough or something. If they actually understood her, they'd realize she speaks like a mix between a nerdy Sheldon and a wannabe Eminem. The kind of person who wears their hat to the side, but immediately runs when someone pulls out a bat

>>8879219
Japanese men are so effeminate that Mori being like that _is_ perceived as peak badass & masculinity.

>>8878569
There's a phenomenon whereby the further another culture is from your own, especially linguistically, the easier it is to set yourself up as a phony expert. A lot of weebs are prime examples, but you get it with Koreaboos and now there are loads of people parading "knowledge" of China which is totally wrong. I think the same thing happens with westaboos in Japan, it's a universal tendency.

>>8872753
Use a translator browser addon

>>8877675
Obviously they're Japanese; it's actually pretty easy to tell the speaking patterns of a non-fluent English speaker whose first language is Japanese. The language they use also helps quite a bit.

>>8879219
>they'd realize she speaks like a mix between a nerdy Sheldon and a wannabe Eminem
They have realized that long time ago and just like her more than ever.

>>8885539
The retards who keep thinking her dorky side is some sort of debuff are funny.

>>8879831
Mori is a white girl that went to japan to rap and succeeded. They have realized she's a dork but the fact that she just went and accomplished her dreams, shounen style, instead of conforming to society, makes her very kakkoi in their eyes

In that sense, I kind of agree.

>>8875766
u mean amerimutts