/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>8782841
Honorary nijinigger

>>8782841
She forgot to be entertaining

>>8782841
She forgor

dumb fucking bird bitch

>>8782841
>watching vtubers less than a month after their debut

Someone needs to replace Ina and IRyS for that spot.

>>8783113
Unironically this

At least I'm not a furry

>>8783113
>personality isnt fleshed out yet, still trying to get free of your lore shackles
>still not used to having thousands of eyes on you
>"WHY IS SHE SO BORINNNNNGGGGG"

>>8783113
>>8783201
>just 6 more months bro i swear she wont be boring by then
Cope. A year later and Mythfags keep giving this same excuse with gen1.

>>8783060
kek

>>8782841
Get filtered

>>8782841
>20k likes
>60 dislikes

Keep trying.

>>8782841
She made being boring entertaining, though. I couldn’t stop watching her stream just now even though it was clear the she was clueless

>>8783126
>IRyS
>boring
Maybe watch streams instead of shitposting, santa

>>8783314
>First month is really awkward
>12 months later the first month is still really awkward
Bros?

>>8782841
FILTERED

Don't insult Mumei again.

evidently the ultimate sin is to not be annoying, it is to be boring.
judging by how mumei antis are seemingly just as loud and obnoxious as kiara antis on this board.
who gives a toss if she’s boring? let her enjoy her quiet vtubing in peace you fucking sperg.

>>8782841
Based hooman falseflagging to make antis look retarded

>>8783314
Reminder Pekora was considered a shitter at debut, now she's one of the most popular.

>>8783113
Sana and Kronii were funny and entertaining right off the bat, what's this bitch's excuse?

IP rangebanned, but friendly reminder yet again.
https://imgur.com/a/swQcQ0V

post this here for me anons. please and thanks.

>>8782841
She didn't want to play this. She started because of people like us speculating that she would be real big into sim and strategy because of her humanity schtick.

She may not even like video games.

I'm wondering if she played something like Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Heavy Rain or Detroit: Become Human that she might be able to be more engaging. So far if she is left with only visual cues from the game and no audio dialogue, her brain shits itself.

>>8792256
Being able to play and talk is a skill that has to be learned. All LPers comment on how being able to divide your attention like you're talking to a friend is something that they have to work on.

>>8782841
whore

>>8782841
I don't know anon. Why are you such a whiny bitch?

>>8782841
>cums 50 times a day, with or without the help of her boyfriend
>forgets about it

You tell me op

>>8792405
I agree, and I think the video games she chose for this week were a subpar choice for her to stream.

>>8792217
This is what I'm worried about.

>>8792217
>She may not even like video games.
Its... Its over...

>>8792592
I actually think some braindead dad game like Construction Simulator or Minecraft where it's just doing a bunch of brainless tasks again and again may be the best way for her to learn this skill.
Minecraft is known as babby's first stream game for a reason. It requires almost no attention, you can switch between building something or gathering resources at will, and allows you to make content just from wandering around in aimless directions. It's the training wheels of learning to talk while play video games.

>>8783113
Based

>>8792855
She better find something she likes quick. I hope she's spending the time off-stream looking for things she might enjoy.

>>8793044
yeah unlike something like link to the past which requires concentration

>>8793300
idk, Zelda is pretty easy. It, too, has the benefit of being able to wander from screen to screen for hours without accomplishing anything but still leaving you with enough action that you get to call 'content'.

god i wish he was me...

>>8782841
She was pretty cute in her collab with fauna. She probably just needs more time to get comfortable and figure out better games to play on stream

Let's see
>she says she enjoys art but isn't particularly good at it
>same with singing
>not an asmr tuber
>not a GFE
>I doubt she'll become a cocochama tier shitposter
>no gura magnetism
>not a comedian
>doesn't seem to be an ollie or marine like collab extrovert
>game selection so far isn't super hot (wink)
>her reserved thing is quite cute, but Its not carrying whole streams.

I don't hate her anons, but she's gonna have to figure something out.

>>8794180
Fucking whore

>>8794180
lmao owlkeks

>>8794532
those numbers seem to disagree bud

>>8793830
imagine a vtuber(female) trying to read chat while trying to fight the boss that pushes you off the arena.

>>8794180
Didn’t she break up with her bf and become a recluse autist

>>8782841
holoen doesn't recruit for entertainment

>>8784960
>evidently the ultimate sin is to not be annoying, it is to be boring.

yes because she's an entertainer
at least kiara has a pulse

>Kronii is boring
Compared to owl, atleast kronii got some witty lines. Owl just giggles like shit. Retards really prefer surface level cuteness

>>8792217
>debut

>>8794532
Shes basically an onoseta character. Fucking bland.

>>8794180
>see this
>get curious if there's any substance to the schizos posting about boyfriends
>google that twitter account
>find this one site that I won't name
>it has it all
>all the info about mumei, fauna and other holos
>only those two seem to have (had?) boyfriends though
I can't believe the schizos were right all along. I feel betrayed.

>>8783113
Normally I'd use that argument, but the entirety of HoloEN2 already proved that they're good.
All but her.

>>8783126
>Ina
>boring
Say that you haven't watched any Ina streams without saying that you haven't watched any Ina streams
>IRyS
>boring
That also isn't true. I may not like what she is [blame the management and their chuuni shit] but she definitely isn't boring

>>8783060
/thread

Have you not seen any retarded person irl? Don't you find watching them making weird voices slightly amusing?

God I would be such a good vtuber I have so many good ideas.
Maybe I could be a purodyusaa I guess but fuck.

>>8795853
Ballsackos is an Indog.

It pissed me off hearing her say “Gura” without senpai. Just because some new trannie manager doesn’t want to say it, after they painfully self-insert.

>>8795853
kill yourself, retard

>>8795853
Todd Howard tier post

Non non biyori levels of boring

>>8782841
But that's what /vt/ wanted her to be.

>>8796845
Seethe. Respect should be earned, not given wantonly.

>the site that shall not be named
Go back to r*ddit, fag

>>8797803
>t. underage

>>8797803
Name something Gura hasn’t accomplished?

>>8796845
>It pissed me off hearing her say “Gura” without senpai
They're not japanese and neither will you ever be
>Just because some new trannie manager doesn’t want to say it
He doesn't have anything to do with them right now
Also, what you seem to have forgotten
Gura HERSELF doesn't want to be called "senpai".
faggot

>>8782998
>nijinigger
you have Sana an actual nigger, nigger. Go eat more watermelon.

my prediction for mumei
>She will continue to keep up her character as much as posssible, going against her personal preferences
>she will stop having fun streaming and fall into depression
>yet she will continue to pretend (it will be obvious) until she breaks and goes on her first big break
>during the break Kiara will mentor Mumei and teach her whats important
>Mumei will return a better streamer

>>8798198
He is some chuuni manager that wants to get rid of Gens so he can self insert and retain his perceived status as manager over her. She is more valuable to the company and has been there longer, so respecting someone’s seniority has nothing to do with this trannie cringe lord.

>>8796029
No you misunderstand. I like them both. They're just not entertaining. I feel like I should be entertaining them. They're too chill. Its not fun to watch.

>>8782841
Honestly she did the best she could with the game she was playing

I enjoyed today's stream, it was a really unorthodox game choice but she made it fun, I can't believe a chuuba made me watch 1 hour straight of her digging a hole.

>>8798308
Sana is a honorary Aryan
Rosemi is a honorary Somalian, and not even a cool pirate.

>>8798318
>she's graduating tomorrow
it's over...

She really just needs to do something she enjoys doing, chat can tell when you arent enthusiastic and it makes for a mediocre stream.

>>8787190
kroni doesnt see males as real people

>>8798423
holy cope

>>8798693
But she got a boyfriend!!!

>>8782841
can someone explain why the shitty anya rigger keeps getting work?

look at this shit.

>>8798803
that's the classic Aqua face though

>>8783113
All the best chuubas I've watched have had at least a year of history. Long enough time to make genuine, spontaneous lore involving their streaming career.

shes basically if I started vtubing and was a girl so I can't hate her

>>8798939
>she will get better, just give them more time!
how the fuck do you pass an audition with no talent? They only get viewers cause people will watch any shit with a hololive label on it, like 30k for a stupid box.

>>8794815
a numbers argument is very low IQ.

>>8798803
Because people watch it and no one cares. Its fucking sad how incompetence is encouraged by the lack of criticism being directed at Hololive for their braindead decisions. Its almost like they know they could send a literally brick with a face on it and people would still watch it because you cannot give constructive criticism on Hololive otherwise you are a Zhang. Fuck Clippers for enabling it, and fuck reddit and all other outlets for silencing criticism

>>8798803
https://twitter.com/rariemonn765/status/1429570638776176644?s=20
Anonchama....

>>8799047
how the mighty have fallen. still shit tier next to keffiy. EVERY keffiy rig is good.

>>8799042
based

>>8798998
connor....

>>8798998
You could put a turd out there on stream and 10k people would watch in all the tine and dozens of clips would be made for it because you slap HoloEN on it.

>>8798803
Anonchama... its actually not him...its rariemonn765, he also did Faunas rig too. Yes I know.
https://twitter.com/rariemonn765/status/1429570638776176644
https://twitter.com/rariemonn765/status/1429528884005937155

Although they could have had Anyas rigger shit it up and then throw it to rariemonn at the last minute to try and salvage it

>>8799100
keffiy isn't even that good compared to modern riggers, abuses waviness too much

>>8782841
>boring
i smell filthy zoomer who never watched streams of "non mainstream/popular" games

>>8798998
I'm not saying Mumei will get better, I'm just saying I've had more fun with vtubers that have more history. Lore and interesting interpersonal relationships will just come naturally over time if she's the real deal.
For now, she is about as fun as watching paint dry.

>>8799190
Both Watame and Coco 2.0 are still unmatched by anything else.

>>8794532
Her fans here seems ready to groom her to become their /vst/ and /his/ Holo if she's willing so, she can take that angle. It'd make for a pretty unique niche within Holo too.

>they lack the mental comprehension to understand how other people can like things he doesn't like

>>8799213
Explain how someone this boring gets in over 1000s of other candidates. Cover employee daughter? I don't see any talent, so...explain?

>>8799170
Unironically true and sad.

>>8799047
look at this discount Pomu.

>>8799170
and this is why indies are where it's at, other than stuff like Pekora who are actually popular and good.

>>8799195
b-but anon, she is legitimately boring. It's not the game's fault, although that game was boring aswell.

>>8799466
Counterpoint : If an entertaining streamer played that game, it wouldnt be boring. Like Pekora for example.

>>8799466
If you get over 10k people to watch shit, do you have any incentive to change? In a sense, Hololive fans are like Apple drones. They will consume ANYTHING with the label.

>>8799271
Its a massive psy-ops, they keep talking about the same few NijiENs, probably because it was around the same time the rose whore was playing Age of Empires 2.
Then of course there are the anons who are legitimately offended she is not a gsg player.
>>8799466
Boring is a buzzword, it means nothing for vtubers, she was cute, she made jokes, I had fun, that is all that matters.

>>8799466
I wasn't bored and I was legitimately entertained throughout the entire stream, so that means it's not boring.

>>8799273
Numbers on her roommate.

>>8799561
And where is the talent that shows "wow, this person is more talented than thousands of other vtubers"?

>>8799552
Deluded beyond belief.

>>8799550
I don't want her to change. I once liked a girl in Niji who was pushed to "change" and she fucked the one thing charming about her.
You are equal to the niggers who say Dragon Quest needs to be an action RPG like you're favorite game but never bother to actually play it if the series decided to do that and fuck its actual fans over.

>>8794532
The god-tier design is carrying her. Honestly, this and Sana's situation have made me reconsider the utter importance of a good design.

>>8799617
But anon, it's the nijifags crying over how she can be scuffkino while having higher numbers than them

>>8799623
change what? can you be more boring than they are? This person got in over 1000s of other applications? How?

>>8799597
No where, if you can polish a turd and get dozens of clips and thousands of viewers why change? Why get talent?

>>8799663
>haha she's boring but big number therefore it's good!
the utter state of this board. there are literally 2 digit indies who are more entertaining.

>I don't want her to change. I once liked a girl in Niji who was pushed to "change" and she fucked the one thing charming about her.
>You are equal to the niggers who say Dragon Quest needs to be an action RPG like you're favorite game but never bother to actually play it if the series decided to do that and fuck its actual fans over.

>>8799634
You dont need a good design to carry you, see: Irys
As long as you got the talent and/or singing and personality you can make it even with a design as putrid as hers, and unfortunately Mumei got neither

>>8799466
Let's be real, the construction game was actually fucking boring. So it made Mumei look way more boring as a result.
The journey stream was nice.

>>8799617
>Deluded
Oh well I guess I imagined all those Rosemi posts?
It's noticeable when anons were talking about that blonde indie who played humankind vs the anons talking about Rosemi.
Plus see:
>>8799673 <- This anon is clearly taking personal offense at the fact owl got in but his favorite niji-whore was rejected.

>>8799663
Dude, who the fuck is crying? I liked her stream but I dont give a shit about numbers enough to complain about HoloEN. It is a given that HoloEN will have more numbers, real nijifans might think it sucks but why would we care enough to make this whole pys-ops on yall? We have our own schizos to deal with.

ITT: 2views SEETHING that they didn't win Yagoo's lottery.

>>8799781
she's fucking BORING, dude. This isn't about Nijisanji, imagine being a talented indie who was rejected for this...thing. And they are only propped up by a company, but remain dull. Do you see the problem yet?

>>8799847
Nepotism hires arent exactly lottery

>>8799859
She is not boring, she just makes a type of stream you don't like. It's one of Hololive's biggest strengths as far as making new gens goes because they always diversify the type of streamers in a gen instead of having overlapping talents who all feel like a repeat of each other.

>>8782841
There isn't a single argument anyone can put up against her high numbers. Your favorite Sana is reclining hard and Baelz is struggling. It is clear that people enjoy Mumei, and she's successful while you're the minority here hating her for a reason you can't even explain.

>>8799890
I wanna know how Hololive went from a gen with Pekora, Marine, Rushia, Flare, and Noel, to these 5 shitters.

There could not be a bigger gap in talent.

Why do you hate her?
>she's boring
Then go watch something else
>someone better deserves to be in her place
Nice sour grapes
>she's just popular because she's holo
So what? I don't care about tribalfagging. She's she's cute and her streams are entertaining, I'll watch and enjoy it.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T ENJOY WHAT I DON'T LIKE
Ogey

>>8799725
That's Hololive fans for you. Numbers = quality, apparently. Even though that's historically not true. Or are the Transformers and Fast and Furious movies suddenly cinematic masterpieces now?

>>8799781
You are implying there is a pysops by us when we have to deal with our own schizos. No one in their right mind should expect someone who hasnt played AOE2 in maybe 20 years to be any good at it. She got better as stream went along but cmon. We dont have time for all of these magical plots and shit you imagine we make when we cannot even have a conversation about outside collabs in our general without it going to shit.

>I wanna know how Hololive went from a gen with Pekora, Marine, Rushia, Flare, and Noel, to these 5 shitters.
>There could not be a bigger gap in talent.

>>8799967
Adding to this:
>most viewed streamer/most entertaining
>best zatsudan streamer
>top SC earner
>best ASMR streamer
>Flare who is fun and a jack of all trades
and now, 5 shit holos.

>>8799967
They JUST fucking debuted dude
I fucking dare you to go to their first month streams and tell me that they would be doing the shit they do today

Rushia wasnt even doing the yandere thing then and pekora was just starting to get out of her hikkimori phase

>>8799967
Yes, famously all those talents were right off the boat amazing and memorable.
We didn't have Noel leading that generation for months as an ASMR girl until Marine, Pekora, and Rushia started to blossom.
Not that this comparison works, because I feel Mumei is already doing a good job at her niche.

>Adding to this:
>>most viewed streamer/most entertaining
>>best zatsudan streamer
>>top SC earner
>>best ASMR streamer
>>Flare who is fun and a jack of all trades
>and now, 5 shit holos.

>>8800050
haha yeah the boring owl is better than usada pekora, I know right?

>>8800013
There is. Its not that all Nijifans are into it, but there is anon. And its nothing new. The whole permission stuff started because of a clique of Nijifans on NND with the express purpose of hurting Korone (and the website did nothing because they are owned by the same people who own Niji).

It's amazing how bad the last 3 (or 4 if you want to count irys as one) gens have been. EN 1, 2 and ID2.

As much as I don't want to write her off just yet, it does make me wonder what asset she brought to her audition to convince Cover to choose her out of thousands of candidates. Aside from her 1m+ channel, that is

>>8800230
Yet you are implying that NijiEN, a whole new branch, has this going on.

>>8800144
Are they even comparable? Isn't Rrat closer to the type of streamer Pekora is?

>>8799725
I, quite literally, know one 2-digit almost indie who does everything Owl doesn't!

>>8783113
Gura's first month was awesome

>>8800302
Immediately trying to mud the waters as soon as I mentioned her fans not being obnoxious like Rosemi fans. Amazing.

>>8800299
my point is they went from recruiting good talent to shit. you can even argue JP gen 5 is shit minus botan.

>>8800251
You're a fucking retard if you think EN1 wasn't a success.

>my point is they went from recruiting good talent to shit. you can even argue JP gen 5 is shit minus botan.

>>8800267
>she's a master oscar-winning actress who can manipulate everyone into thinking she's new
>but she's also a retarded no-talent vtuber who doesn't deserve her place

>>8800373
Good and successful are two entirely different things.

>>8800365
Anon, instead of throwing accusations around, you could try to elaborate what makes someone good or bad, instead of just saying "you know!" and expecting us to fill the blanks.

>>8800230
NND is owned by dwango, and in turn Kadokawa. You know their cozy relations to Hololive lmao. In actuality they worked as to shut down every discussion thread concerning holo aside from one. So nice falseflag.

Have she do anything /his/ yet ? Even a trivia or some joke

>>8800538
Yeah and good is subjective. You can scream EN1 is shit all day and it still wouldn't change the truth.

>>8800630
she forgor

>>8800630
At this point it might be false advertising

>>8800439
Even if that's the case she'd still have something to show for it, and that's not what I'm observing. The board seems to agree

Idiot bird

>>8800633
NTA, but I would qualify EN1 as good or above average but not excellent.

>>8800630

>>8800573
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANYCOLOR
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%83%AF%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B4

Also its well documented the ads targeting many Hololive talents, ads from which the website profited and that were key in stuff like the Permission Holocaust and Aloe's graduation.

>>8800726
>Even if that's the case she'd still have something to show for it, and that's not what I'm observing. The board seems to agree
>let's ignore that it's her first week
>if she doesn't stream like my professional vtubers, that means she's boring.
>what do you mean, people can like what I don't like?
>she has 18k viewers of her just digging a hole? And she retained it? No, it's not me that has the problem, it's everyone else.

>>8800726
the board entirely believing in it would be proof itself

>>8800540
anon even you could be as boring as owl girl without even trying. Where is her entertainment value? Marine can talk for hours and entertain. So can Pekora. Even a 10 view indie can have more charisma than this.

>>8800853
Hololive had 30k people watch a video of a box. A FUCKING BOX. You can literally put the label on any shit and people will watch. That doesn't indicate talent or ability.

>>8799634
That's just for the first month(s). Eventually it balances itself out

Her don't starve stream was cute as fuck and she isn't even incompetent when she is allowed to explore things on her own without a hush.
Seethe all you want, you are not the only sane person saying the king is nude, you are the Spaniard calling the qullqiya they stole from the natives lesser silver (platinum) and throwing it at the sea, only for it to cost way more than silver later.

>>8799634
>God tier
>Pomu with a poncho

>>8800879
>Where is her entertainment value?
>Entertainment can be quantified
kek

>>8800986
Holy fuck you spic this is even worse than food analogies. Talk like a normal human being

>>8800937
Ogey. But I enjoyed her stream. I watched every second of it, and I was entertained. I wasn't bored even for a single second.

For me, she's cute and endearing enough to like. We're watching these girls for entertainment, and I was entertained. She did her job well.

>>8800986
i think you need help

>>8801051
Do you think lots of people watch Pekora play Minecraft cause they love Minecraft? Why can't others do as well as her?

>>8799967
You're really going to pretend that everyone loved Pekora during her first weeks

>>8801042
>Take great design
>Add poncho
>Becomes god-tier design
yes

>>8782841
Keep trying asshat.

There is no incentive to hire good talents when you can give any boring girl a L2D and get lots of viewers cause of corporate branding. It's that simple.
>look bro, she is good cause the view count!
and that's why these 5 are subpar.

>>8801250
It's really easy to spot people who haven't watched Sana

>>8801069
It's a good example that goes against the narrative of this website that always value people who call everything shit. Spain wasted a lot of platinum over being retarded and judging it only by comparing it to silver. You are acting as if Mumei is worthless because she isn't a hyper type streamer like Pekora.

>>8801289
Her art is bad. If that's her "merit" then she needs to start working on drawing different faces/eyes before anything else.

Look at Raita, he has famous female designs but his males are completely different (and arguably better).

>>8801311
not everyone has to be hyper but being human xanax is not good either.

>>8801360
What he is saying is that sana has neither the subs nor the viewers so your argument is invalid

It's alright to not like her because you don't like her style, but going full sour grapes is just pathetic. Let people enjoy what they want.

>>8801360
Like I said, really easy to spot someone who hasn't watched Sana

>>8782841
You want the truth? she’s not talented ogey NOT TALENT

>>8783133
Clock and Space are great out of the gate.

VERY DANJYARASU

You're asking me why I follow based Mumei from Hololive™? MOTHERFUCKER WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOUR ARE? I FUCKING WATCH THESE GIRLS BECAUSE THEY CUTE AND THEY DO CUTE SHIT? TALENT? V-TUBERS? HELLO?? IF TALENT MATTERS THEN KAMITSUBAKI SHOULD BE AT THE TOP AT THIS RATE, DUMBFUUUUUCK.

>>8801311
>You are acting as if Mumei is worthless because she isn't a hyper type streamer like Pekora.
No, I'm calling out your stupid analogy. Get real

>>8800302
whomst

>>8801472
>nepotism hire
>artist friend who can't draw well
great hire!

>>8801747
t. hasn't watched a single Sana stream (but we all knew that)

>>8801803
she's so fucking bad she can't even break 10k in a debut week. IN HOLOLIVE. Do you realize how hard you have to try to do that?
>oh they don't care about numbers
so nice they took a job from a better candidate.

who is the /vt/ approved chuba for mandatory watching

>>8801250
Except she isn't.
There is this old image from /jp/ era that predates the western boom of VTubers. Pic related.
The generic western VTuber is a loud whore, Mumei is quiet and doesn't screen or forces a stupid loud laugh over random shit, the average western VTuber can't stop talking about the latest meme lingo, Mumei isn't the one who called herself based and referenced a bunch of cringe zoomer memes.
She is in fact not a common type of VTuber in the west, she is a cinnamon roll, an imouto type character, a character you want to protect (one of the pillars of what the word MOE means).
If she were to be out there playing pranks, being rude, cussing, and talking about edgy topics her charm would be lost so any anon saying this is wrong. She will keep growing because the west is starved for this type of archetype while there are a bunch of east to find bitches who do all that you find "fun".

No matter how hard you shill for the rule 63 australian meme man she wont fuck you.

>>8801860
You'll be surprised at what I'm going to tell you: ____________________________watch her streams!________________________

>>8801869
Sana

>>8801945
>watch this ugly live2D with an uncharismatic, bad artist
I will pass, if I cared about art i'd watch Ina

>>8801929
true, but I hope she can be based while keeping the image

>>8801929
But she's not good at games so that means she's boring! How can anyone even be entertained but not spouting epic memes every second, and just wholeheartedly digging a hole?

>>8802008
>missing out on an entertaining and charming chuuba because of something as trivial as design
>afraid to see his claim that all 5 girls suck is completely wrong because of Sana alone
ngmi

>>8802008
anon... she didn't even mention she draws in her debut stream, at least not as a selling point like ina. watch streams

>>8783113
I don't know...IRyS was fucking entertaining out of the gate. They should have given her the cute owl model, instead of trying to hold her down with her current model.

>>8802019
She has some good taste in music, so I'd say based.
https://youtu.be/yZsMBVU9TwM

I heard that she dated a child rapist and then defended him?

>>8782841
she's exhausted after getting fucked by her bf

>>8799181
Isn't rariemonn supposed to be a god-tier rigger like the mouse woman who did Ame and Astel?

>>8802367
yeah, and then she "fucked around" quite literally and found out.

>>8802428
no idea how she passed auditions
hopefully she graduates before people can superchat her

>>8802095
I treat her streams like an immersive SOL anime episode with an autistic girl, not some random streamer who happens to have an anime avatar.

>>8802367
>>8802377
Yeah, she's had 1 million subs experience and shown she was quite good at game
But now she transformed her voice, took acting lessons, destroyed her computer and got a lobotomy and now she's the no-talent vtuber with no experience at streaming.

>>8802544
I unironically fucking love this new era of Lex Luthor posts

>>8799181
fauna’s rigging isn’t that good either, her bangs look completely disconnected from her head

>>8800433
Fuck these niggas talking shit about the clussy.

>>8802544
>she's had 1 million subs experience
all bots

>>8802415
Yeah he is, which is why everyone got surprised when they found out about it thinking it was rhombus at first

>>8798308
You tell them wosemi sama

>>8782841
That stream was peak cringekino though.

>>8801929
There are thousands more western vtubers and vtuber candidates out now since that image was made and it's not a decision anymore between being a chain-smoking caricature of a vshojo character or being boring as sin (mumei)
there's more to being a cinnamon roll than being awkward and not knowing how to speak or stream. You can be a sweet and pure girl and still manage to come up with entertaining streams.

>>8802672
That's right, all bots. All the streams she did in front of an audience? All AI-generated.

>>8798308
based

>>8802095
No one on the JP side needs to spout epic memes every second but they could probably make digging a hole more entertaining than Mumei did. Owlfags are sure doing some impressive mental gymastics to convince themselves that today's stream wasn't an embarrassing disaster.

>>8802544
>>8802759
STOP
I CANT KNEEL ANY HARDER
MY KNEES

>>8802841
>wtf how are people enjoying things I hate?

>>8802750
But I like Mumei. Her personality and her design hits the spot that I'm looking for, so I will continue watching her. I was entertained just watching her do her best to overcome the scuffs and dig a hole for 1 hour. It's endearing. So what now?

>>8802008
I can't believe this fucking autist keeps saying Sana is bad and yet admits to not having watched her or plan to.

Your opinion is actual garbage. You don't even qualify to give an opinion.

>>8802759
did she write the bots and AI herself?

>>8803150
Of course! You've seen her /here/ posts. right? She said she was good at computers. She wrote all the necessary algorithms to construct the shachi persona, all to attract hololive and let her in! Of course, she also wrote a secret program to make it look like it was rhombus fag who rigged her, just to add to the deception.

>>8801073
anon just because you were entertained by the fancy owl keychain doesnt mean the criticism of her being boring doesnt have hold water.
but i dont think people should be giving her overdramatic shit for it, first week after all.

>>8802937
i ask myself this daily

>>8803678
as an owlfag who enjoyed the shit out of the first half of the stream and got bored in the second half, this is about as sensible a statement you can make about mei. she's definitely the one that's gonna improve the slowest

>>8803678
Criticism of her being boring holds as much water as people saying they liked her. It's purely subjective anyway. This thread is just people Ree'ing over others liking things they don't like.

>>8803678
Fun is subjective, so trying to quantify entertainment as if it was an objective thing won't work. People found her entertaining, people found her boring. That just means that people have different tastes. Trying to put your opinion as the objective one is retarded.

>>8782841
jokes on you, i enjoyed watching her dig for hours.

>>8782841
The world is full of boring people who like boring things. We would kill ourselves, but we're much too boring for that so we watch Mumei's stream instead. I for the life of me have no idea why I like her so much, considering I just watched her dig a fucking hole for an hour and had a good time, but I did, and I was not alone.

>>8804330
man of culture

>>8800365
you cannot argue that

>>8800365
nene's pretty amazing now that she hit her stride

>>8800821
Dwango has no ownership in anycolor, not even minority stakes. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>8802008
My opinion>your opinion. >told to watch stream >see im right> id rather watch an alternative!!

The absolute state of thread readers

>>8802265
>Irys was entertaining out of the gates
Why are you lying?

>>8782841
owl and nature are niji-tier. it's not... Bad. I didn't expect better from cover, but I refuse to believe cover doesn't realize they are basically niji en.

>>8798998
She’s only in Hololive because Hololive Doesn’t look for talent they see a big following a choose based on that.

>>8782841
This was absolute comedy gold for me.

>>8799752
>Irys
>personality
LMAO

Wait guys I always thought Hololive choose the best of the best what went wrong? Are you saying numbers actually don’t equal talent, skill, or personality?

>>8799634
Sana's design is conceptually perfect though. Making her a pale skinned loli wouldn't just tie up to the galaxy/space shtick as she currently looks. Sad as it is, only people capable to enjoy Sana needs to have more than 10 neurons working, which is a rarity

I knew she had the ability to be selfish and irritating to those around her, just like Irys.
It's also amazing that people who broadcast without reading a single comment still exist in 2021.

>>8799181
It's a strong hypothesis. Maybe Rhombus Rigger did half of the work and rariemonn tried to save it

>>8800267
Can draw, has cutesy demeanor, a good lolibait voice and roommate apparently is experienced at streaming. That said, she's not really talented in any of these things, only so-so competent. Which means the pool of EN idols to scout from is already small if something like this dull owl has passed auditions

>>8810848
>looks like a nigger
>conceptually perfect
Literally the worst character design in Hololive. I genuinely feel sorry for her.

>>8811375
What do you see in those pictures about the universe? A dark sky. She has dark skin corresponding to that. You're a brainless retard if you can't do basic visual interpretations like that

>>8811225
Just look at pekora if you want to see how long a shy one takes to open up.

>>8782841
she is affraid she will slip up and mention her bf by accident so she doesnt interact much making her boring.

>>8811457
Idk man, when I look up I see black not shit brown. If anything, black wouldn't be the color of space. There is no color. Your brain is just processing it as "black" because you can't see the full light spectrum. So. Shut the fuck up. Also, nta you were talking to.

>>8811496
If she has a pekora-like transformation i'll for sure kneel

>>8804436
Based impartial anon. I dont like her personally but can fully understand this

>>8782841
The dullness and retardchama behavior is intentional. She's playing up a character for the "klutzy moe" points and so far you can see it works. People already love her. Then once she stops with the forgor and "remembers", it might be a radical change to Hachaama-like levels. Because that's what civilization does. They 'forget' all the time (they're wiped), then they're built anew and crazier and more extreme. And they forget yet again. And it begins once more. Trust the plan. Because it's all part of it.

>>8799967
lmao. This really proves a lot of people here are newfags, who only got into Hololive when it became a trend. If you didn't, you wouldn't be saying garbage like this. Gen 3 were seen as garbage even before they first debuted.... then people said even worse after they debuted.

>>8810848
>only people capable to enjoy Sana needs to have
Yeah the shitskin would be the ESL choice, wouldn't she?

She needs a mommy domme like Kronii to keep her going.

>>8782841
boring is the new buzzword for non-zoomer, so it is

I hope she has a breakout like Pekora and Korone did because right now it's not looking too good. Also is there any reason why she only does 1 hour stream?

>>8812165
I really really really want to hope this is true

>>8812970
>Also is there any reason why she only does 1 hour stream?
Because she's bad at streaming.

>>8813036
It is.

Owl is a mythic class steamer compared to the mega normie shit of clock and sana

>>8799967
Let's look at those "talents", shall we?
Rushia - good at manipulating lonely people for their money. How commendable.
Pekora - good at accidental comedic timing ... So her talent is bad luck?
Marine - can draw okay, but nowhere near as good as Ina or Sana. Good at zatsudans? I would say being able to talk to your audience is a bare minimum requirement for a professional streamer
Noel - she can make whooshosssshoooshhh noises with an ASMR mic. Amazing!
Flare - lol

>>8782998
Kek

>>8783776
So she's the James May of hololive?

>>8812165
This is a strong cope.

>>8814185
hey now, Constable May is a wonderful straight man for Constable Hammond and Clarkson's shenanigans.

>>8783113
With Mori and Kiara this made sense because Mori wasn't a streamer and didn't expect thousands of viewers, and Koara wasn't used to playing games on stream. Mumei doesnt really have this excuse.

>>8792256
>Heavy Rain or Detroit: Become Human
You should be shot for even thinking about these two games

>>8814813
>those two games
And right after he's shot, you should be shot for calling those two movies "games"

>>8799517
Pekora was extremely boring in her first month. She inclined hard once she stopped trying to be seiso amd got over her nerves.

>>8782841
She forgor :skull:

>>8782841
Why do you keep watching her then, retarded faggot

>>8800299
Rrat isnt anything like Pekora. She seems more like a slightly chiller and more mentally stable Ollie so far who also just happens to be bad at games. Like, for all of the whole "chaos" shtick, she's actually kinda boring herself.

>>8800365
Awful bait.

>>8815012
She is really just Anya doing an Ollie impression.

>>8801360
Not only do you not watch streams, you clearly don't even thread read. Nobody is watching Sana and hoping for art streams right now.

>>8801452
Welcome to /vt/!

>>8801945
>numbers argument
Pathetic.

>>8782841
>holoEN
>holoEN gen 2

>>8810848
Tbh I'm really haply about the design / accent filters. Sana will have a comfy and supportive smaller fanbase that will behave themselves in chat and actually discuss streams here. Last thing I want is to be part of a new cumshart numberschizo fanbase.

>>8814185
Well yes, except shes not a homosexual.

>>8800230
it's funny how holobronies are pushing this nijifan is holo-anti narrative but in reality, holobronies are the one trying so hard to sabotage nijisanji lol

What sort of content did she specialise in previously? She had a lot of subs so she must've been able to do something right. Right?

>>8816211
General gaming for shit like apex and streaming
...which is why Mumei was just pretending when she spent 20 minutes fixing her streaming audio and the rest just digging a hole.

>>8815517
The only time I think about Niji is when I read a dumb post here.

>>8799181
rariemonn's so good he could replicate his coworker's mistakes perfectly

>>8814813
>Forgetting Korone's kino playthrough of Heavy Rain where she fell for oji-san.
l

>>8816665
good opsec

Boyfriend

>>8782841
This was literally the most boring vtuber stream I have ever seen, great for focusing on work.

>>8816837
Based, she planned scuffing her stream to become 2view-tier, potentially ruining her professional holo status, for good opsec, and acted like the most grammy-award winning genuine retard of all. In the end, she was just pretending to be boring and talentless.To dodge the 10 seanigs from /vt/.

>>8816976
>pretending to be boring and talentless
she doesnt have to do that if she really is HER though

>>8817005
If you can act like Mumei despite being used to streaming, you're sure as hell aren't boring and talentless.

>>8813295
I guess it just goes to show
What sounds good on paper and what is actually entertaining have little to do with each other

>>8787190
Kronii is a boring, disinterested piece of ice

>>8817685
The bogans are the only ones in En2 with any energy.

>>8812165
ultimate cope

>>8782841
Her playing a manual labor simulator asset flip while being boring is an effective way to draw in contrarians.

>>8811375
have you mutts ever heard of other types of skin than "white" and "nigger"

Something I dont quite get is that she was a vtuber before this, how is she so clueless about sound settings and why didnt she tell her boyfriend not to come in when she is streaming

>>8821325
Not since we wiped out the redskins.

>>8812165
"I was just PRETENDING to be retarded!"

>>8798380
>respecting someone’s seniority
Hey sperglord, you do realize you can also respect someone's seniority using the English language, right?
It makes complete and total sense for EN to refer to their JP seniors as senpais, but the words senpai/kouhai just are not as important within EN itself.
Hearing the absence of the word senpai after someone's name then thinking immediately that EN2 disrespects EN1 only establishes your inability to understand social interaction.

>>8783113
kek

>>8816752
kek

>>8822099
The word senpai doesnt exist in the english language
You want her to address her as ms. Gura or something?

>>8822263
Ms. Gura or ma'am.
But no, my entire point in my first post was that the absence of one word (senpai) that isn't even an English word does not equate to disrespect.

>>8821608

Lex Luthor already explained that in this very thread...have this spoonful >>8802544 >>8803279 >>8816976

i have no horse in this race but i am looking forward to watching the grand kneeling from either side of the argument months later. Its either
>remember when people called her boring? now she's a proper chuuba!
or
>i called it from the start, boring=boring, worst chuuba in council

>>8811457

fucking late but
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_latte

>>8822524
>>8749371
DC never told me Lex Luthor was a furfag

>>8822633
I have a new appreciation for her hair color.
Also
>Cappuccino Cosmico
>Big Bang Beige
>Skyvory
>Primordial Clam Chowder
Astronomybros (and sis) have good naming sense.

I have never been so entertained from so much dead air and scuff. I sat through the whole stream.

>>8816976
God fucking bless you luthorposters

>>8798191
being sober

While her being boring is subjective her shity schedule and game choice is not. Seriously everyone of her genmates are hitting it hard out of the gate hell Kronii is streaming fucking 8 days in a row while Mumei is only doing 4 streams this week. Hopefully it isn't a trend otherwise we really will be getting Ayame 2.0

>>8821608
>why didnt she tell her boyfriend not to come in
This happened?

>>8782998
fpbp

>>8799466
>>8799765
she said she likes simulation games, I think most wholigans expected absolute kino like Nenechi
https://youtu.be/nz-QXPL-9i8?t=1534
coincidentially, Nenechi was also a late-bloomer because for gen5 they for whatever fucking reason scheduled zatsudans daily for a fucking month.

>>8832889
I love this brainlet so much

>>8800320
Not really, Gura was known to have a garbage game selection back in the day. Gura herself although carried those games.

>>8832293
During the Construction Simulator stream you can hear someone opening her door and panting

>>8834973
Thats because her manager is a known hack
Look at her now, she cant play 12 minutes while Kronii gets it before she even debutes
Stuck to only play dead by daylight that nobody gives a fuck about

>>8821608
>3 months in, Mumei's gotten comfortable streaming and built a solid viewerbase.
>One day, 1.5 hours into a Civ stream, a door is heard opening and a muffled deep voice.
>"Okay, everyone, I'm gonna stop it here. My boyfriend just got home. See you guys tomorrow!"
>Promptly ends stream.
What would be the aftershocks of that Magnitude 10?

>>8835011
It was a pet, you retard

>>8832293
Some animal came into the room at the beginning of the stream but she was really vague about it.

>>8822099
When she pulls that shit with the JP holos, what then? EN2 Management is an embarrassment, I have never seen a parasite have a superiority complex before. EN2 has no accomplishments yet their management wants to act as if they are above Hololive culture as well as EN1.

>>8832293
>>8835923
She was just embarrassed about her service dog.

>>8836296
In which way does the dog service her?
I just have to know.

>>8836333
He trouble shoots her streams

>>8835600
THE FINAL YAB

>>8792217
>vtubers are just zoomer "e-girls"
whoa no way

>>8782841
She's probably holding back. Give her about a month or two and she'll probably be different from how she is now. May not be more interesting, but she will be different.

>>8782841
Remember Gura on debut? kindoff like that

>>8798318
>Kiara will make someone a better streamer
Now wouldn't that be the darndest thing

>>8783582
Vtuber like to dislike ratios are always like this. Young horny men have a hard time downvoting cute girls.

>>8783582
>60 dislikes
That's less than Kiara's average during 30 threads a day times

>>8844738
>less
more*

Did her former life play games much at all? I don't think she did. Mumei is like petra. She wouldn't be gaming if not for their streaming career.

>>8782841
why do you jam so much paper

>>8844970
Nobody but herself is forcing her to play games
Unlike other groups she has a lot of freedom in hololive

>>8792176
Use catbox instead, Redditor.

>>8845053
How many holos don't play games?

>>8844970
She's not like petra at all. And thank god the roommate rrats were actually wrong this time.

>>8845191
Denial is not just a river in Egypt, anon. The iketog schizos presented the evidence. Just google.

Wrong reply number.
>>8845333
See >>8845494.

>>8798318
>KFP actually think this

>>8812165
>actually retarded
cute, and SOVL
>actually lex luthor
Kino.

there is no losing

>>8798318
She's already a better streamer than Kiara.

>>8782841
why are you soo retarded?

>>8782841
She is excellent background noise when I do shit. That makes her better than most vtubers.

>>8799256
Mumei will play Civ and grand strategy games? I don't see it. She is not even a gamer.