/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>87980121
you mean there a moment when they aren't malding or seething?

>>87980121
She should fuck on stream.

They get the fanbase they deserve.

>>87980121
twisty is just being satire, retard.

>>87980634
this dumbshit never saw her pl content. its not satire you dumb stoner. she's a fucking moron fr

>>87980121
>nijisanji content

>>87980121
damn, she reminds me of Laplus

>>87980203
They gotta sleep some time

>>87980875
kek

>>87980121
Ok, that's kinda funny. Still not watching, tho.

So sisters hate her and dudes know she's lusting after dudes. Do only ultra cucks and coomers watch her?

>>87981233
She gets about 150 viewers. Hardly anyone watches her.

>>87980121
NijiEN really consisted of whiny bitches huh. Instead of privately talking about that shit, the liver just blasted the other liver and let their sisters harass that other liver to "protect them"

What a happy sane and stress-free family

>>87980121
They're gonna make her the next Nina aren't they? kek

>>87981233
I find her entertaining the way I can find a character in a TV show entertaining even if they're lusting after another character, but I have zero emotional attachment to her.

>>87981283
barely that on a good day too. one of her recent twitch streams i took a peek in only got like 30 viewers total and her youtube chat is very inactive compared to other niji

>>87981391
They are trying but the power of the sisters have been significantly broken ever since the selen shock

>>87981283
sorry I meant to tag both comments in my post lol L:
>>87981701

>>87980121
I'm tired of her being spammed everywhere and I'm not going to watch her, but this is pretty funny. I hope the sister has a meltdown.

>>87980121
wait did she just KEKED the sisters??

>nijis and responding to randos on twitter

>>87980121
>>87980875
Just watched the clip and Jesus Christ the tracking is so fucking awful. It can not be that much more expensive to hire a slightly better rigger.

>>87982226
whoa bitch that costs money. remember doki is unmarketable. They also still owe matara money.

>>87980121
>Nijisisters
>Cuck proudly posting how they're becoming allupeeps 2.0
Nijifags are always so pathetic and sad.

>>87981701
which is unironically how people should watch chuubas. They're all characters, they're all just playing a role. The whole thing has gotten so fucked up over the years that people dont see that.

>>87980121
Twisty is such a 180 in the NijiEN brand, they're just trying everything to make the number go back up.

>>87980121
embarrassing

>>87983066
pathetic. imagine heavily pandering to channers everyday and finding out /vt/ doesn't even like you

So she's gfe but also heavily flirts with her male coworker on stream? Baffling. Funny how it makes the guys audience seethe though

>>87980893
But they dream.

>>87980121
Why do people dislike when this girl flirts with dudes on stream but it was ok when pomu did it?

>>87983451
pomu is based

>>87981701
Wow, there's another person /here/ who gets it.

>>87983899
>replies to self pretending to be a new person

I like Twisty but she intentionally joined NijiEN so she fits the profile I gave for any future livers. Obey the clique, make the most of it like Scarle being independent or go full psycho on them and push boundaries.

>>87983999
Yeah sure, whatever. Feel free to see it that way. I was posting mainly so that anon didn't feel crazy; couldn't give a shit if it looks like samefagging.
That aside, now I'm wondering what their choice of safe word is, if any. Bets anyone?

>>87984499
what is bro yapping about

>>87984587
kek he's embarrassed he got caught.

>>87982226
Better rigging costs more money than Niji is willing to spend. Also they had the best rigging in the world when they invented 2D vtubing and became the biggest vtuber agency in the world in 2018, which automatically means that the tech they've used unchanged since then is still and forever will be the best in the world and they'll press defamation charges against anyone who even hints otherwise.

>>87982226
>>87984746
It is unironically way better than Holo’s

>>87984746
suck their dicks harder why don't you. every ex niji says their old rigging was worse than dogshit

>>87984933
No it isn't

>>87983316
what we see in the OP is the total opposite of that however. she would have had to be basically totally isolated and be purely there for the audience only to try to be GFE. only do cute girls collabs and if none are available then just don't collab, etc. to appeal to /vt/ you have to ignore the rest of nijiEN and basically pretend like you aren't even in it.. I don't think they are even given that option really, or if they practice this it's going to make them disliked and isolated from the rest of the branch. or rather's what's left of it. so either be hated by the audience for trying to continue the usual nijiEN shittery, or by your own branch.

she chose the former and it's produced very logical results. she can't complain a word about her 2view numbers when she knowingly joined nijiEN in this day and age and the writing was on the wall that their support completely fucking collapsed already. she's a pig rolling around in a pit of shit, leave it be and hope it dies with the rest of the branch.

>>87984418
Here's hoping she pushes boundaries and that other female vtubers, both in and out of Niji, follow that particular path. Picrel.
....what's management gonna do about it, fire her? When they had already killed her career three months before she debuted?

>>87985054
Yes, it is. Do more research before you make claims

>>87985121
such a waste of money and resources. she shouldn't have even debuted.

>>87980121
>female Luca

>>87985133
Do nijiniggers really

>become a sexpest
>crazy girl joins
>get sexpested

>>87983451
because back then there were likely enough normies to balance out the crazies.
Since february, all of the people with half a brain left and the only ones left are schizo sisters.

>>87984976
Meant for >>87984933

>>87985497
You’re not very smart are you

>>87985562
If they were smart they wouldn't be nijiniggers

>>87984933
I've not really watched Hololive for a while but even a year or so ago it was better than what I just saw in that clip.

twisty for the last time we're never going to watch you

>>87984976
And it’s still better than Holo’s. Especially newer models (some can stick their tongues out and do that side pout that some indies can do)

>>87985690
Not in that clip

>>87980121
I mean if you're going to join Niji this late in the game you have to know time is limited. Might as well try to fuck whoever you can before bailing. Like how Pomu fucked Luca at that one Christmas party before she graduated.

>>87985128
>new asmr drops:
>"little sister plays with her food"

>>87985609
Yeah… You’re really not smart
>>87985659
Bias blinded you. Holos are stuck looking at some corner of the screen half the time and their facial expressions don’t even get tracked. Not to mention the constant rhombus and similar issues

>>87980121
Holy based Twisty. I know she got her cunny all pissy last week but she's also a based incest god!? Maybe I should watch her.

>>87985690
Sorry did you mean this model?

>>87985690
>holos get 3d model debuts frequently
>multiple outfits and ability to use approved fan models

niji can't even be assed to give their income fodder better tracking

>>87985943
At least try to stay on topic

Is there a more thankless existence than being a female vtuber fan with a male oshi?
Your oshi throws you under the bus in search of a male audience and disses you for being parasocial, the existing male audience hates you and you can't even defend your oshi without a female vtuber siccing her audience on you. Appealing to the female fantasy is seen as "degrading" while the male fantasy is "the norm".
I hate men so much it's unreal.

>>87985824
True! Everyone knows the stiff Niji rigging is GENIUS because it allows them to have so many outfits by sticking PNGs to themselves, so it won't look weird since they can't move!!

>>87985860
Is this a toggle or can she do it automatically?

>>87985824
>their facial expressions don’t even get tracked
Kaela's rise to fame was entirely off of her face tracking being so expressive you could hear her laugh with only your eyes.

>>87986061
You act like Holo doesn’t have stiff rigging?

we get these dumbass threads everyday and you people keep falling for the bait

>>87985121
She was a 3view on that stream, numberfaggot. She only goes two view when she does guerilla twitch streams in the middle of the night for like thirty minutes. Desperation is real

>>87986168
https://youtu.be/IM3CtpxKKAg
T-This? Expressive?

>>87986191
They do not

>>87986428
Lol

>>87986029
Sounds like you should find either a better oshi, or a better community.

>>87986428
>this is what holobronies actually believe

>>87980121
>They're just playing a character!
Then when I schizo post on X I'm also playing a character.

>>87980121
Twisty is back at it again stirring the pot and making the sisters mald and shit themselves. It just takes one collab for her to accomplish this and you'd think that by this point those retarded yumejos would have learnt the lesson but it's no use. I'm just waiting for that retarded homo to call them out like a broken record pointlessly because his entire fanbase is comprised by those. Reap what you sow, Nijisanji.

>>87986389
>She was a 3view on that stream
Nope. That's the final peak. Check any of the many tracking sites.

>>87985824
>>87986191
And I'm sure you can post proof that they are worse than niji cardboard png models right?

>>87986516
Name 1 (one) male vtuber that doesn't have this problem.

>>87986584
Shoto immediately comes to mind.

>>87986570
>nijiniggers got real quiet after this dropped

>>87986584
kenji

>>87984933
Feels like they memoryholed atrocious Holo rigging like rhombus Gura

>>87986570
Yes, because (most) Nijis can actually change their expressions at will, make different mouth expressions, widen their eyes, etc. Holos having their heads move all over every corner of the screen every second doesn’t make it good

>>87986646
Shoto? You mean the guy who publicly talked about how grateful he was for filtering his fanbase?

>>87986859
>>87986857
Yeah because >>87986570 sure demonstrates a variety of expressions

>>87986857
I should probably stop arguing with them because at a certain point it doesn’t even feel like I’m arguing with actual fans (catalog thread, which would’ve thunk)

>>87986960
Who would've thought "niji cardboard models are actually good" wouldn't fly?

>>87986857
Holo improved their rigging.
Niji invested literally 0 dollars into improvements

>>87986562
people wouldn't be so madge if she was actually entertaining, that's why the rest of the niji girls don't get shit on by vanta's fans much.

>>87982226
Their rigging is done in-house, that’s why it’s so shit.

>>87987094
>people wouldn't be so madge if she was actually entertaining
You say that but then Nina

>>87986932
Crazies who harass people aren't fans.

>>87983451
>pomu
you leave that sweet angel out of this

>>87986932
Filtering nijisisters is based tho

>>87986562
He did an entire stream specifically addressing his fanbase the last time they freaked out about Twisty - telling them to stop treating him like a baby and how he and Twisty are colleagues, they obviously talk and discuss things behind the scenes and if anything was making him actually uncomfortable he'd say so offstream. They clearly didn't listen.

>>87980121
nijiEN and cuck content, some things never change

>>87987394
The ones who would listen left the fanbase a long time ago

>>87987197
>Nina
is that all you can say? Nina was a glorious sexy milf who gained more popularity after leaving. when twisty leaves niji she won't even have a straw bed to lay on

>>87987094
That's not a valid point when you realize some find that as comedic. Not my cup of tea but definitely not something worth seething about. Don't you think the first reaction to something not entertaining shouldn't be malding in socials and complaining about how unfunny they consider she is? They are not even complaining it isn't funny, they think she is literally abusing him live. It's the funniest thing to look at every time.

>>87987464
Yeah, and nina was also simultaneously entertaining by your own admission and got intense hate from nijisisters for daring to breathe

>>87987082
Every penny Niji spends to improve the models' rigging is a penny they can't spend on stock buybacks, paying dividends, or otherwise directly increasing shareholder value

>>87980121
KWAB

>>87987522
and? Nina isn't twisty even if the situations are similar. use a new talking point

>>87987394
That is exactly what I meant by "like a broken record" This happened before and try as he might, that's the type of fanbase he has going on for him. It's of no use.

>>87986568
>Checks tracking website
>Stream literally crashed a couple minutes in and was deleted immediately after

Desperation is real

>>87987094
If his fans were phrasing it along the lines of "I don't find this entertaining" then I think personally that's okay - instead they seem to repeatedly act like Twisty is sexually harassing him and he's a poor little baby who can't stand up for himself. If I was him I'd be fucking pissed at being constantly infantalised like that.

>>87987561
kek

>>87987665
The point you made is that people wouldn't care if she was entertaining.
Nina disproves your point
Suck on it

>>87983451
Luca is a known sex pest, so it's plausible that he forced Pomu into it

>>87986948
https://youtu.be/vvE1gkYQHjQ
Can Holos stick their tongues out without a toggle?
https://www.youtube.com/live/OWE2cPMGTn8
https://youtu.be/cyR0yjkPNLo
Do Holos have fully animated expression toggles?
Can Holos even have automatic expressions like eye twitching and widening according to their actual
emotions?
https://youtu.be/0tkQAkTSREM
https://x.com/violerin/status/1841194170184065164
Actually can they even wink

>>87987774
>samefagging argument
Why are you retarded schizos like this.

>>87986932
...Oh, if you're one of the people who got filtered, then that's not a them problem. It's a you problem.

>>87980121
who is this kind of content for?

>>87987916
>Actually can they even wink
Never mind I answered my own question and it looks like trash, somehow looks like it’s being toggled on when it’s not

>>87987650
Looks like a genuinely plausible reason to not stream at face value.
In any case if either of them stopped streaming after this collab for a while I'd sooner suspect a stealth suspension over the mental health risk ToS(?) moment. Though I'm not sure if that's actually fine on yt, and it's only on twitch that vtubers get banned 100% of the time for it.

>>87988110
Cucks, regardless of the gender.

>>87987916
That Wilson clip is actually disgusting to look at.
Also, seriously? Using Zaion of all people to defend Niji's models? The only reason Zaion looked "okay" was because Sayu's a fantastic puppeteer who can work with shit tools.

>>87988458
I used the Zaion clip because it’s funny, get a better sense of humor. You’re still not making any arguments in favor of Holo’s rigging

>>87988018
>is there any more thankless an existence than a female schizophrenic anti?
>male schizophrenic antis at least get hailed as based

graduate already

>>87986396
:D

>>87988018
He used them to boost up his numbers and then dumped them like used condoms. Male vtubers everyone.

>>87987916
Yes
Yes
Yes
Now can nijisanji make models that wouldn't be outperformed by a png?
>>87986570
No, they cannot

>>87988547
Why would we when your arguments are based entirely on falsehoods?

>>87988917
Who are you talking to? Even if Twisty agreed with you she literally isn't allowed to graduate. It'd be faster for the entire branch to "graduate".

It’s always funny seeing Holofags(?) insinuate cover’s rigging is better when their girls can’t even widen their eyes (without a toggle), the bare minimum
https://youtube.com/shorts/vHvr_pp80do
>>87989066
>falsehoods
You know you can just click the links right bro?

>>87989013
Just as a reminder that Kotoka still can't put down her hand

>>87989237
Bro what are you talking about

>>87988547
Not quite so funny when the company you're defending using her corpse threw her into the fires over that clip.
Regardless, that's simply Sayu being a good puppeteer with shit tools. She can make pretty much any model work and it has absolutely nothing to do with Niji's rigs being dogshit.

>>87989237
And polute my recommendations with Niji fllth? No
Post them here or they don't exist

>>87989357
Nijinigger delusions, please understand

>>87989357
?
>>87989395
It’s funny

Hololive fans are evil you're spending your lives antiing a random girl on social media what's the end goal, her suicide?

>>87989578
Heads. Pikes. Wall.

>>87989578
lol

>>87981701
she is not that good of a streamer to actually be enjoyed this way.

>>87989397
Niji rigging looks like daemonhosts

>>87988324
Both of them are gonna be in Wilson's play, so neither of them are suspended. And even if they are suspended, they won't get fired for anything short of a major felony - none of them will.

>>87986584
My sweet sweet Leo Valentino

>>87989578
Sisters are the only ones harassing her. Nobody else gives a shit.

>>87990900
Yeah I forgot it's always someone else fault

>>87990900
Holo fans are falsflagging as sisters. Look at the actual sister asking people to not engage in harassment of any kind. NIJI GOOD.

>>87990900
Why are nijiniggers like this?

>>87988324
You think that guy loves watching male vtubers and cancelled his stream because he was so excited to watch Vox? That type of excuse works on the fujosisters but not anyone intelligent

>>87991231
isn't vanta playing as Jesus in the collab right now

>>87991145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDs6OGB9D3A
Is Vanta specifically talking to holo fans, too?

>>87985133
>do your research
back to FB with you, sister.

>>87983451
>but it was ok when pomu did it?
pretty sure there was a point where her comment section was filled with long winded paragraphs about the dude being annoying and ruining the vibe of the stream and she stopped collabing with him as often

>>87991406
I don't really see anything wrong with those tweets. It's not like this person is tagging twisty and saying mean things to her.

>>87985121
not 2 view. this stream was 15 minutes tops because it was crashing and wouldn't let her end stream. kys
>>87987650
she literally streamed today

>>87980121
>do loli gfe content
>yet cuck the fans anyway
idgi is the niji fanbase all just women and cucks at this point?

>anon mentions rigging
>instant nijiseethe

>>87991762
and then the stream itself completely goes against it, as they WERE going after her for it, as well as disrupting the streams through the chat complaining about her.

>>87992210
she isn't even getting any clout. what's the point? even VA is bored with her.

>>87989578
you're the evil one who keeps bringing up these fucking twisty threads. nobody cares about her but the sisters. fuck off. funny how all these bait threads started to die down and the one that stays up there's someone defending her. i wonder who could be posting ITT

>>87991406
Vanta gets pissy with his fans cause they try to baby him and they also attacked him for that starbucks shit.

>>87991231
This is also the guy who mentioned McDonalds twice and placated sisters the second time by going, "Sorry, I forgot. Thanks for reminding me!" It's hilarious how well his terrible excuses work.

all this thread needs is the enna slut bot schizo posting and its a regular day at the catalog

>>87992210
Reminds me of finana but without the entire killing the carrer arc, since NijiEn was already dead when she joined

>>87986584
Hakka. Dude just likes to sing and is happy to feed his female yumes.
Also, from what i hear, anyone in Avallum.

>>87989578
people wouldn't care if there weren't some orbiter losers (possibly unironically groomers trying to prey on her because she's so unsuccessful and menhera) trying to push her as the next big thing. so that keeps requiring people to keep re-pointing out nobody cares about her and that branch is good as dead. you can lead a horse to water etc and they do not seem to understand or accept that. it's already too late.

>>87993345
I actually really love his karaokes and covers and find how he treats his fans endearing. His metal song choices are great.
t.male

>>87986029
Because with Vox we saw that when fujoshits get what they want the content isnt disgusting lowest tier coomerbait and they dont start acting like apes.

>>87993761
spoonfeed me this what do you mean

>>87980121
Seems like Twisty is just having fun and they dont know how to take it.

>>87994008
her post:
>tee hee I talk to him behind the scenes, keep seething

>>87980121
I physically recoil every time she says anything and I'm not even a sister.

klara and ryo would be better off without her

>>87994369
real

>>87992210
No shit, who in their right mind would become fans of niji now?

DO NOT REDEEM

>>87992210
>1 yoctogram (the weight of a hydrogen atom)'s worth of actual respect for viewer audience
>being in nijisanji EN
pick one and only one. the selen thing gave them a well-deserved decapitation strike but really they have all been such utter fucking shitters for fucking years now and they deserved to fail as a branch long before that.

twisty is proof they genuinely don't give a shit about EN anymore. They want a reason to pull the plug on it

>>87996851
honestly EN is not worthy of having another culture war anymore, Twisty literally got some Phase Connect stuff and the sisters were not able to organize another war because nobody gives a shit about them now

>>87996851
maybe the name twisty denotes the swirling water of the flushing toilet that is their branch. poetic.

>>87997235
kek

>>87991406
>Aia profile pic
>measured and reasonable take
like clockwork

>>87988664
>hailed as based
Yeah, by other men, retard.

>>87987394
Ok but in the defence of the nijisisters, are they supposed to just take this stuff?
Of course they will either leave or get mad.

>>87999211
>are they supposed to just take this stuff?
yes. They were supposed to take it, consider it, and either improve themselves or leave.
It was intended to be a filter, and instead the sisters ignored it and continued to be garbage.

>>87999012
Who cares what women think is or isn't based?

>>87989578
I'm holo fan and I feel bad for twisty.

Not enough to sub or even watch her but I still feel for her.

>>87986570
Its the pivoting from the hip that gets me, theyre probably slightly turning their head IRL but their models move side to side at 99mph. Its so bad.

Didnt it take like 2 years after already Holo had prop pinning implement the feature? (after VTubestudio had it already)

>>87996851
They're not waiting for a reason to AZ-5 the branch. They already have a bunch of reasons at their disposal, of both the "actually true" variety and the "technically not a lie, and true enough to avoid getting bonked by market regulators for lying to them or to the investors" variety. If they were so inclined, they could close the branch and terminate all hands literally right NOW and cite something like "gross mismanagement" (actually true) or "the August market crash" (technically not a lie) as the reason.

They're not waiting on a reason, they're waiting on the timing. They have some outstanding business contracts like the Niji Encounter project, and cancelling those contracts will incur cancellation fees. And as badly as EN is doing right now, they have not yet reached the point where tanking the cancellation fees will cost the company less money than keeping the branch in (at least nominal) operation until those contracts are fulfilled. They will reach that point sooner or later, either because gross revenue reaches a sufficiently low level, or because there are no more outstanding contracts remaining; but either way, they're not there yet.
Also Luxiem's 3rd anniversary is coming up on December 20, and EN management wants to give them as big of a celebration as possible, even if that celebration ends up being the branch's graduation ceremony. They will do everything in their power to keep the branch up and running at least that long, no matter how bad the Q2 report is.

The Q2 report, covering the 92-day period from August 1 to October 31, will be published on or around December 12. There is an extremely high but not 100% chance that the third round of stock buybacks will be announced at the same time as the Q2 report; and a very low but non-zero chance that there will also be at that time an announcement of the upcoming-but-not-immediate merger/closure of the EN branch, e.g. announcing on Dec 12 that the branch is closing on Dec 31.

>>87993350
Huh? /vt/ bait threads don't cause people to bash twisty on twitter. That's ridiculous. Have you made the error of merging the entire internet community into a but a few distinct NPCs?
If there are obnoxious groomers pushing her on twitter and pissing everyone off, I stand corrected and humbly request you post screen caps so I can mock them.

>>88001009
Aia openly said that ILuna 3D is next and Hex said that XSoliel's 3D is coming soon. Clearly they are just milking the 3D before doing anything like closing the branch

>>88001378
Didn't Hana get 3D after the ID branch got closed, or is my timeline messed up?

>>88001378
>Hex said that XSoliel's 3D is coming soon
mf graduated

>>87982226
I’m sure they have a lot of dirty, disgusting riggers working for them already. They really gotta vet those riggers better.

>>88001521
>"Don't graduate yet, Hex! Your 3d debut is just around the corner! It'll ruin the event for all of Xsoliel!"
Now where did I hear that before..?

>>88001719
Just a little more until the 3D is usable? What a mystery.

>>87989270
They superglued it to her headphones, it's one of those little things they hope people quit noticing.

>>87989270
Thanks for the reminder. She streams so infrequently I forgot she even existed.

>>88001378
If the pattern they've had this year continues with those two waves, then Iluna is currently scheduled to get their 3D debuts in January and Xsoleil is scheduled for April. I'm not entirely convinced that EN is gonna last long enough for that to happen, what with how badly their revenue is plummeting.
They might expedite and release the Iluna 3Ds in November (which conveniently has five weekends this year) instead of waiting until January (which has 5 Fridays but only 4 Saturdays, and the last Friday is also the last day of the quarter). This would save November's monthly revenue numbers, but at the expense of officially tipping their hand w/r/t their intent to close the branch the moment it stops being (sufficiently) profitable. I mean their intent is obvious, it just isn't an "official" intent yet.

Incidentally, they finally announced Uki's 3D debut. It's happening Saturday night in NA prime time (8 E / 5 P), but is being advertised as happening on Sunday at 9 am JST. They've all but officially given up on the overseas markets and the EN branch, and they're not even bothering to pretend otherwise.

>>88002436
>3D in November
Wonder if that's why they're doing the "big meetup" in November.

>>88002436
>This would save November's monthly revenue numbers
lol
lmao
how much did the other recent 3D debuts make btw

>>88002766
Important to note that both Shu and Sonny have the type of fanbase that only donates for big events. Their normal streams can sometimes have <~$100 SC.

>>87986859
>he thinks the eye widening effect is good
nigga, it looks fucking retarded cause it happens literally every 3 seconds. Looks extremely unnatural to the point of it being annoying. there is such a thing as an overrigged L2D model. the only real awful thing about holos rigging is their absolute dogshit mouth tracking

>>87981283
She just had a collab with 3 2view literal whos and for a while she was dead last, only to barely rise to the top halfway trough while still dipping under a few times

>>88002968
She is so small she cant even hope to be posted in /lig/

>>88001009
someone's mad kek

>>88002766
>how much did the other recent 3D debuts make btw
More than NOT publishing those 3D debuts would have made. A vtuber's 3D debut stream will bring in more superchats than that same vtuber having a regular zatsu or gaming stream.
If Iluna get their 3D debuts before the branch closes, this is probably why; if they get it next month, then this is DEFINITELY why.

>>88002892
>Pomu doubling Elira like that
Sheesh

>>88003215
Pomu always made crazy money, she is not only very popular (in NijiEN terms) but has insane power with gachis. She was easily the most valuable vtuber in that company and they lost her.

>>88003215
pomu is so based desu... like I don't even care if she talks or collabs with males bc her content will elevate everything

>>87980121
Reminds me of hololive fans when the girls talk with a guy

>>87993345
Hakka is one crass motherfucker, he insists on talking about piss and shit every stream. That's a filter right there, but for some reason women look past that, maybe because he's a spic and other spics automatically see spic entertainers as the best thing ever never mind the actual entertainment value. But he does sing with passion and I like that.

>>88004143
consider: he cute and we like he

>>88004058
Reminder

>>87980203
fpbp

>>88004249
I don't think I've seen any holofags this bad except that kronie

>>87980121
Hate NijiEN with all my being, but this is so fucking based. Intentionally pissing off the Nijisisters while doing whatever the fuck she wants. Stuff like this makes me want to watch her honestly, but it just sucks she's in NijiEN

>>88004312
I can respect joining niji as an agent of pure chaos, you can't find success there even if you try so might as well have fun. Hated by both sides but having a good time

>>88002892
>Keep in mind *cope cope cope*

Numbertranny on suicide watch

>>88004491
NIJICOPE

>>87992210
>at this point

>>88004491
And yet, Pomu still beat both of them :)

>makes retard chink women seethe
>doubles down on it
Holy fucking based Twisty-sama.

>>87990079
If you like bratty cunny that need correction then she's 11/10.

>>88004660
>Pomu
Mint can't even beat Pomu. She's never gotten close to beating Pomu. She has never had a five figure stream

>>88004760
You do know Mint is Pomu, right? All of Pomu's accomplishments belong to Mint.

>>88004143
>because he's a spic and other spics automatically see spic entertainers as the best thing ever never mind the actual entertainment value
This was his initial draw of popularity. ES Holo fans desperate for LATAM chuubas.

>>88004861
Then why can't she beat herself when she was in Niji?! Curious case

>>88004877
Because she was in Niji for 2.5 years and had a 3D debut? Don't play dumb.

>>88004922
Then where'd her audience go? Shouldn't she have the same SC numbers that she got as Pomu, if not more? Why did Pomu's birthday beat Mint's?

>>87986857
the rigging that they... invested in and replaced? That's your argument? Holy shit you guys are dumber than I thought

>>88005012
Nijinigger logic please understand

>>88004979
>Then where'd her audience go?
She has higher viewership than she had in Niji.
>Shouldn't she have the same SC numbers that she got as Pomu, if not more?
She does. Mint's been around for 6 months and has a superchat total of $134k. Before she announced graduation, Pomu's last 6 months had a superchat total of $60k.
>Why did Pomu's birthday beat Mint's?
Much shorter stream (2hrs vs 5hrs), less time for people to donate.
Now, why don't we compare anniversary streams instead? Since they were both 2hrs each, both are anniversary streams.
>Mint: $5963
>Pomu: $800
Let's see what cope you come up with for why it doesn't count.

>coomers itt think twisty is better than anyone in Hololive
lmao
Sucks she's being hounded by sisters but her fans are just as bad if not worse.

>>88004718
>If you like bratty cunny that need correction then she's 11/10
You can't say that when you're getting cuck live faggot, have some self respect or get a rope.

>>88005471
>She has higher viewership than she had in Niji
Nope. VOD views are the same or higher for Pomu
>Before she announced graduation
Funny you say this while stealthily ignoring the massive drama + redebut buff
>Shorter stream cope
Rormao
>Muh-muh anniversary stream
One of her highest super chatted and still couldn't reach five figures like multiple Pomu streams did. Plus Pomu only had wave anniversaries, never a personal one for herself

>>87983066
>Twisty is such a 180 in the NijiEN
>Collabs with male members
Isn't this literally standard practice for NijiEN? They never were against collabing with males, and it's hilarious people gaslighted themselves into thinking she wasn't collabing with males because whatever fucking reason they made up in their heads.

>>87983316
>pathetic. imagine heavily pandering to channers
>Collabs with a homo
DYR...?

>>88006680
Twistyschizos are obsessed with Twisty and can only justify it by convincing themselves she thinks about them as much as they think of her.
As a result they unironically believe she panders to /vt/ despite there being zero evidence of this. No, being a bratty cunny is not evidence of /vt/ pandering.

>>88006822
hi twisty

is niji the only corpo where both the male AND female talents are sexpests?

>>88006858
case in point

>>88006858
Hey look, it's the faggot who spams Twisty bait threads in the catalog and accuses everyone of being Twisty

>>87990419
Holy fuck didn't expected to find a nijifag who watched wactor, kek.

>>87980121
Ok, she is kind of based in a menhera kind of way. I'm still not watching a niji tho.

>>87980121
I thought she'd sound like Kobo at first but she has a nice calm voice. Watched her collab in a scary game, I was just there for Raki.

>>88007630
She barely said anything during the whole collab
I expected her to be used to collabs, with her being in niji and all

>>87980121
pretty based of her to antagonize them like that

Twisty is scheming with her scizo and known anti friend denpafish to destroy the whole company.

>>88008946
That's copium

>>88008946
I would've sooner thought all her outside of Niji collabs were orders from the top, since they're consistent with the information given out to investors that Niji would be focusing on building and utilising links with third party vtubers to grow their company in the future.

>>88009152
what links, everyone hates niji

>>88008946
makes sense for why she collabed with the schizo that post her bloody pads and shoves ice sticks up her ass

>>88009238
Yeah, anons were laughing about it when they were reading the investor report. But look how many friends outside the company Twisty has made. She's technically fulfilling the strategic directive laid out in that report right as we speak.

>>88009152
Considering management's previous actions, this all just seems really desperate of them now.

>>88009261
I’m sorry… what???

>>88008946
Hi denpa! Post a photo of your 500 lb ass for the thread plz

>>88009353
>>86898491
open wide.

>>88009316
I don't think the people writing that report had any illusions such a move would be successful. The goal was just to present a surface level tangible plan to investors on how things might improve. They still need to attempt this plan in order to not be charged with lying to investors, even if they're sure it won't meaningfully impact anything. And thanks to Twisty, they have.
Whether there was any actual orders or info passed to Twisty is pure rrat territory though.
Just thought it was amusing that the execs would probably approve of the denpafish collab given their norminal strategy.

>>88009453
Thanks I need to pour bleach on my eyes now and smash my head until I unsee this

>>87989578
>Hololive fans are evil
ad hominem
>you're spending your lives antiing a random girl on social media
strawman
>what's the end goal, her suicide?
appeal to emotion

>>88009609
Your funny words have no power over me for I be seamonkey and what I no understand can't hurt me

>>88009685
appeal to ignorance

>>87985819
>Like how Pomu fucked Luca at that one Christmas party before she graduated
Where did this rrat start? Any proof?

>>87980121
I love Omankozako's love for lolis, making nijisisters mad and her borderline 2view streams. Still not gonna watch her though

>>87989578
>hololive fans
Sorry bud, but >we don't have time for that, >we have streams to watch

>>88009800
>source: dude trust me

>>88009800
>Any proof?
I am the proof. I was there and she gave me a free footjob with her shoes still on at the same party.

>>88009899
giwtwm
would be able to kill myself and die happy if pomu would stomp on my balls and laugh at me with her cute voice while she degrades me as I fade into unconscious from the pain

>>88009961
I am not pomu but I can do this for you if you are a cute guy. If you're a ugly ojisan then fuck off.

>>88010165
Are you a woman, a ""woman"", a femboy, or just a regular guy?

>>88010403
Woman. I am saving up for a 3dio so I can start making lewd asmr audios.

>>88004143
They look past it because Hakka sounds like he's 12 years old when he's speaking, so it becomes a little brother vibe.

>>87980875
Lmao… and this is the girl who does GFE in niji? No wonder her viewership is horrible

>>88012071
>and this is the girl who does GFE in niji?
Does she? Proof in next thread?

>>88011804
Post a sample of your voice.

>>88004143
Hakka has become a massive woman panderer, not in the yume way but in the “connecting with yourself/emotions” crap, he is always very positive about the small things, and he cannot stop talking about gender-neutral things and lesbians. His female audience grows because of this.

This is quite the thread going on, the OP bait has lost it meaning and while multiple topics are going on, some anons talking about how Denauth, mostly twisty is connecting with all other small corpo and indie chuubas potentially making NijiEn looking good again is quite interesting.

>>88010165
>I am not pomu
We are all Pomu.

>>87980121
Can I sit on the cuck chair? I'm willing to pay!

>>87985496
I want to kiss this smug coyote on the lips if you know what I mean, hehehe

>>88013734
>on the lips
which ones?

>>88012616
Twisty is the secret diplomat appointed by Anycolor Head Office to restore the reputation of the EN branch
>New hire with no connection to existing organs
>Literal WHO? PL with minimal streaming credentials
>Had zero experience streaming, and suffered from atrocious technical skill at presenting content for the first month or so
>The above points indicate there must have been other factors involved in selecting her
>Speaks about how her manager gave Denauth essentially the royal treatment in Japan during the onboarding process
>As far as I'm aware no other wave has gotten the level of treatment she had been recounting in her stories
>It's possible they had the opportunity to talk shop with head office folks for correcting the crisis in the EN branch
>Twisty and Denauth in general are probably the only Nijis who have specific nice things to say about how their direct manager conducts work on their behalf; reminiscent of holo stories of their various managers.
>Twisty has displayed astonishing speed and skill at wooing 2-3view minor corpo cute girl vtubers to appear on her channel, which is in line with the strategy outlined in the investor reports.
>All of these indies and small corpo vtubers only have nice things to say, despite the shitting on NijiEN meta.
>Twisty's true skill she was hired on was personal diplomacy and actual professionalism in working with other creators.
>Rather than trying to rebuild reputation in the public eye - which has been proven to not work again and again, she's rebuilding reputation with other content creators, so their fanbases will naturally drop their pitchforks in turn.
>As she continues to farm positive experiences with all sorts of other creators, as time goes on progressively larger ones will become more willing to reach out to her, even as a one-off fun thing.
>Eventually, "maybe not all of NijiEN is bad, that dumb menhera is pretty cute and funny, and my oshi wouldn't work with her if she was a terrible person" will start to take root as the common narrative
>NijiEN is saved

>>88004877
mint has a better and healthier community now. all the corpo suck fans stayed in the cage

>>88005471
>Mint: $5963
>Pomu: $800
And that's gross revenue. Consider that both had to give 30% to Neal, but only Pomu had to give 50% of the balance (35% of the gross total) to Riku.
With that in mind, here's their pre-tax net hauls:
>Mint: $4174.10
>Pomu: $280
This just further strengthens your point that Mint is doing better now than she was before.

....oh, and there's also the part where Mint does not need to worry about missing out on once-in-a-lifetime opportunities simply because the person whose job it is to negotiate on her behalf doesn't feel like trying. That alone makes all of the other benefits look like sprinkles on ice cream.

>>88006627
she collabs the most on other chuubas channels while not streaming her pov which is why her moron simp fan never sees it.

>>88012496
>says it like its a bad thing

>>87990419
>Leo Valentino
Is he still around? I remember reading long ago anon saying Vox wishes he was him, something about Leo being a perfect 50-50 on giving content to male and female audience.

>>88014161
I hope she gets laughed out of the streaming community and never comes back

>>87982928
Vtubing will still be parasocial even with kayfabe most streaming is how many times does this need to be told

>>88014666
as a moron simp fan this is not true at all. she rarely doesn't have pov if she collabs or she asks us if we'd like one. she tells us on stream if she's gonna be somewhere

>>88015589
>simp never saw her in the all male collab using a voice changer and vox promo pics
sadge cope here

>>88015141
who?

>>88015733
no I did and I don't care. her male collabs are peak. she was also in doppio's fashion tourney on vox's stream

>>88016447
>proving the cuck allegations

>>87982226
but that would cost money thst Tazumi is saving up for Yacht 2

>>88016498
I don't care if my streamer is in a relationship. can't expect people here to understand though. you guys seethe when your streamer even tweets at a man

didn't they have auditions before the selen thing? imagine signing your contract and then all hell breaking loose and now you can't leave

>>87986029
> Is there a more thankless existence than being a female vtuber fan with a male oshi?
Being a male VTuber fan with a female oshi outside Hololive

>>88016837
this is exactly what happened yes

>>88016837
Yes, Denauth was signed 6 to 12 months before her termination.

>>87980121
kys

>>87986094
Toggle, they can get the perms to do it automatically using workarounds but since Cover's tech is so ass, most of them just get used to the toggles

>>88003215
>>88003313
>>88003590
Important thing to consider that isn't brought up often enough imo is that unlike rest of Nijisanji EN, Pomu's audience was really NA (and to lesser extent EU) centric, more than anyone else. She has similar type of audience to Hololive - passionate fans with a lot of disposable income, mostly white adult males.
One of the reasons why Nijisanji EN tanked so hard after Pomu and Selen were no longer there is because it was those two who were keeping majority of NA audience and it left with them, no longer caring about rest of the company.
After that it really became Niji CN/SEA where the remaining audience is full of dumb/crazy teenage girls living their lives on tiktok and twitter.

>>88018506
they probably got niji confused with holo since they routinely hire talents 6 months in advance.

>>88012616
(if it happens) I think it will only work for newest talents, like Denauth, potential upcoming waves and select few "good ones" individuals like Vanta and maybe Rosemi, Maria, Doppio. (i assume Vivi will graduate in next few months)
Notice how Vanta was always cited as the least offensive of niji males alongside Doppio and the only one considered tolerable as brotuber and Twisty only goes out of hisway for him while ignoring majority of other senpai and instead networking with indies in her collabs.

>>88021349
no shit. its obvious she only entered niji to suck his dick

>>88021424
Mindbroken.

>>88021424
There's like five vtubers she collabed with more than with Vanta - and every time she does it's comedic banter based around her making him awkward. Stop thinking about BBC all day anon.

>>87980121
You can tell twisty is a fucking /vt/ shitposter anywho isn't she gfe? Why she's replying to that other sister like a fujosister herself. Either she's gfe or isn't which one is it faggots since you fags love to shill her here for free.

>>88021436
to be fair id also suck his dick

>>88021424
Anon you are not right in the head.

funny thread still not watching her

>>88021517
She's basically the Joker. Smart and psyco, the most dangerous mix.

>>88021517
She is GFE. Nothing about her actions contradicts it. If you think otherwise, your thinking is too shallow and binary.

>>88021777
GFE talents don't go pulling other male talents cocks in their mouth like twisty did when responding to that other sister. This is prime cuck behavior. But hey if that's what you enjoy more power to you brother.

>>88021891
Yeah other GFE talents play it safe because of retarded schizos like you. Twisty doesn't mind alienating mentally ill for a better fanbase, even if it makes it smaller.

>>88022150
>better fanbase
>2view
what fanbase?

>>88021777
average niji cuck

>>88022240
Can you read?
>even if it makes it smaller

>>88022540
Not at all. She's the only one I watch from that company while waiting for it to burn down.