/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

==REMINDER TO ALL MENHERA==
>M: Please don't get merch because you feel pressured or anything like that. DON'T do anything that you don't want to. We really mean it, okay?
>F: So you know, maybe you're like, "Oh, well, you know, maybe if I make a clip maybe more people will discover FUWAMOCO from there!" - it's true, but maybe you REALLY don't like video editing... Maybe don't that.
>M: However you want to, okay?
>F: You know, oshikatsu's supposed to be fun! You know, just tweeting, being loud -
>M: Being HERE with us!
>F: Yeah!
>M: That's all - that's MORE that we can ask for!
>F: Yeah, being like, "Ah! My best friend, you know, I REALLY like these vtubers called FUWAMOCO!". You know, those kinds of things, you know...
>M: So, please, don't feel like, "Oh, THIS Ruffian is doing all this and I'M not doing ANYTHING"...
>F: No. You know, oshikatsu is fun for everybody and ANYBODY!
>M: You should never feel like that, okay? So PLEASE don't compare yourselves to somebody else, okay?
>F: We just want you to have fun. You shouldn't feel pressure.
>M: We don't want you to disappear because of something, you know...
>F: Yeah, so, you know... if your smile's in trouble...
>*Both shake their heads*
>M: Just don't worry, we just want you to be here with us.
>F: Yeah, we wanna protect your smile and have fun together, Ruffians!
>M: You got it? It's not work! It should be FUN! We understand that you compare yourselves to others and stuff like that... SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY "DON'T"! We get it, you know? Because we felt it too before, okay? *reads chat message* You wish you could superchat more? IT'S OKAY! DON'T WORRY! We want you to have fun.
>F: And you know, it's the little things that count, too, you know. So, just sending a tweet like, "BAU BAU!" - that helps, you know?
>M: Yeah! Do what you can!
>F: "I'm on break right now, you know! I had a real delicious sandwich! FUWAMOCO, I had a delicious sandwich!" ... You know, it makes us happy to know that you're thinking about us cause sometimes, you know, we get a little bit lonely. Like, "are the Ruffians thinking about us...?"
>M: Please don't worry, okay? *reads chat message* You can't write well? It's OKAY! Don't worry about it!
>F: But it makes us really happy to know you're thinking about ways you can help us, Ruffians...
>M: We don't want you to get sad and be like, "I can't enjoy FUWAMOCO anymore because I compare myself to other Ruffians", okay?

>>87593855
BAU BAU
>>87593896
BAUSED

>>87593930
>the convenience store
RUFFIAN HUG PILE!!!

women only in this thread
no men allowed

>>87593855
BAU BAU
>>87593930
Don't do this to me, I almost got a heart attack

>>87594179
Why would that give you a heart attack Anon?

>>87594223
He really hated that Anya collab.

why no 3d frame anw

cumming for fuwawa!!!

At least we will have a nice and comfy time during the supa reading on Sunday…

>>87594609
anal only! BAU BAU!
AGRI!! BAU BAU!
Phoenix! BAU BAU!
DeepFriedSceeam! Bau Bau!!
PUDDING RRAT!!

RATHIANS!!
ITS THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK AND EVERYTHING IS SHIT
BUT DONT WORRY
IT CAN BE WORSE
SO
LETS ENJOY HOW IT IS
BE STRONG, RATHIANS!
BAU BAU!!!

>>87593855
BAU BAU

>>87594542
It's being delayed due to illness

>>87594978
Orale Mococo tu si que sabes como hacer que la fiesta se vuelva más loca. Mococo deberías hablar más en español. Me pone bien duro que hables en español.

>>87595177
Your madre は puta

>>87595107
Nope, not happenibg. Mococo would push herself like she did for the Dorokei, and would sooner make them go on another week suspension than miss that collab.

>>87595375
Even if it makes it worse? You think they'd rather reschedule than have her try to sing and do ASMR without a voice

>>87595430
The question is more CAN they reschedule. Remember that this is studio done, meaning that they have to book time in the 3d studio. Many have gone on recors both in Japan and outside that the studio is sometimes booked up for months at a time. This is likely a now or 6 months from now sort of thing.

RAPE Mocotyan!!!!!!!!

hey ruffian who suggested that GG & Raora's stream is silly enough to counter the depressing game, thanks. I switched over after Bae's stream ended and it's been fun

2 weeks without a like

>>87595799
Yeah, it's been a fun stream. Here's to looking forward to the Advent collab if FWMC can make it tomorrow. Would be sad if they had to skip and it was an outfit announcement.

>>87596646
skill issue. You need to be like all their favorites and change your sleep schedule to theirs. Be smarter and only tweet when you know they're awake.

>>87596646
Don’t worry child, I always make sure to like your posts. You are my favorite ruffian.

>>87594818
those already been read right after stream

https://x.com/Patra_HNST/status/1846751865205412172

HOLY FUCK THEM NIPPLES

>>87597102
You're forgetting the SCs that'll be sent during the stream itself

I just got the heebie jeebies when I read my DMs some ya scare me

they could save their voices a lot if they stopped reading super chats

they could save their voices a lot if they stopped doing jp streams

>>87597442
The block button is just seconds away you know. Besides, unless you are a woman. There are no Gay ruffians or men that want to talk to other men. What’s the point?

Wuffians am I sexy?

>>87597802
take those pebbles off your chest biboo you are beautiful the way you are

>>87597802
Kill yourself ERP faggot I hope your entire faggot family gets run over by a bulldozer

>>87597802
Biboo milkies...

>>87595783
>"Mococo moan 2"https://streamable.com/05vfnw
>"Mococo moan 3"https://streamable.com/tx3j6p
>"Mococo moan 4"https://streamable.com/5pgkxq
>"Mococo moan 5"https://files.catbox.moe/64ixtt.mp3
>"Mococo moan 6"https://files.catbox.moe/hymc3t.mp3
>"Mococo moan 7"https://files.catbox.moe/eitxec.mp3
I WANT TO RAPE MOCO-CHAN!!

>>87597802
Yes! Although I truly hate how artists defile your canon chest by aging you up because that are afraid of drawing loli. Truly a shame the world we live in where small girls get the short end of the stick. Like Mococo.

>>87595783
Fuwawa SEX!
Mococo RAPE!

>>87597177
wtf it has a 3DPD cover?

>>87594567
I can't... I already reached my limit for today...

If you had to marry one ruffian and raise a family together who would it be?

>>87598333
nerissa

>>87598333
Nerissa, easy question.

>>87598333
The one that cuts herself. We can have a big litter of puppies and I can cool down her menhera a bit.

>>87598333
This question is stupid. I don’t know any ruffian and I am not gay. I much rather raise a family with FUWAMOCO

>>87598510
hamsters don't live very long I'm sorry to say

>>87597960
>https://files.catbox.moe/hymc3t.mp3
>https://files.catbox.moe/eitxec.mp3
Why is she making those noises...? Mococo isn't supposed to be sexy, don't post this again

>>87598588
People who abandon FUWAMOCO aren’t ruffians anymore in my opinion.

>>87598646
she's a delicate flower begging to be defiled

>>87598741
ueh...

>>87598703
According to Fuwamoco she's still s Ruffian and has a home if she comes back. But creepy groomers may have scared her away forever because ruffians can't stop trying to fuck everything that moves

>>87598819
this might hurt a little mococo but it will make me a very happy ruffian

>>87598943
Shut the fuck up, BITCH. I wasn't the one grooming her, SHE was the one that started doing the ERP and making sexually suggestive comments, I just followed her lead...

>>87593855
BAU BAU

>>87598943
That makes sense. I guess even if I haven’t watched my JP oshi in 2 years… I am still a Shiokko.

>>87599075

>>87599189
You better hope twitter deletes DMs from the servers when an account is deactivated or you'll be learning how Tyrone BAU BAUs soon

>>87599189
You did that? Bad ruffian. You should only ERP with FUWAMOCO or Pero.

>>87599355
It takes them so long to reply to messages though. it's still hot but like sexting with a pen pal

>>87599355
>bad ruffian
I still remember when she called me a bad ruffian..

>>87599559
>>87599614
Well now I am jealous… Thank god that no other female ruffian has ever or will do something similar of what she did on this thread. An interesting piece of Bah Bau history that should never repeat itself.

>>87599347
She enjoyed my Mocorape posts... I'll never forget our Mococo rape ERP...

>>87599355
>ERP with Pero
AAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE!!

>>87600031
I hope to god, there is a short Pero route in their vn

>>87600105
KILL YOURSELF!!!

>>87600031
>She enjoyed my Mocorape posts
Women unironically fantasize about rape. They were almost a 50% of the people that watched and enjoyed Redo of Healer.
Mococo fantasizes about the Ruffians(all me) raping her when she masturbates.

>>87600796
It’s one thing to fantasize and actually get raped. Life isn’t a fucking hentai. Mococo specially wouldn’t be having a good time getting raped. Unless seeing a girl broken in tears and sobbing uncontrollably turns you on, if so… You are one sick son of a bitch.

>>87593848
I want to cum all over their bodies...

>>87600894
>seeing a girl broken in tears and sobbing uncontrollably turns you on
Yes.

>>87600956
Oh God...

>>87598943
I get along better with females I should have reached out to her, shame the groomers got to her first.

>>87600956
GFE
WITH
A
CHILD

>>87598510
that narrows it down to two

>>87600894
>It’s one thing to fantasize
It's still hot. Moco-chan is horny for the Ruffians(me), and she wants to be dominated by us(me).

dead general

Who?

Oh dang the chairman from Knight Scoop died, Nishida Toshiyuki

Mococo wants us to be horny for her.

>>87601455
who

>>87601398
So you rather have 2 dudes going through the same motions and arguments? Silence is sometimes better than unnecessary chaos.

>>87601418
The collective info of all mankind goes to waste at your fingertips

>>87601561
What?

>>87601561
how many fingers am I holding up hackerman

>>87601579
>>87601596

>>87601561
Huh??

>>87601617
>was holding up Masayoshi Nashida fingers
wtf

>>87601617
Who?

Everything they liked and enjoyed about Japan is slowly dying or being replaced.

>>87601455
I have no clue about this guy's works. RIP I guess. I'll go back to watching Oshi no Ko S2.

>>87601772

Wait Matsumoto took over Nishida’s spot?? I wonder what happened to that when Matsumoto had his sex scandal

>>87601772
I take one japanese each jp solo stream

>>87601845
Cute

>>87601901
Baused

>>87601772
Just stay out of Tokyo and it's not a problem. Even as far away as just Omiya and there is less westernized garbage. Or if you're in Kansai then Kobe is mostly untouched.

>>87601462
the japanese tv show they watch at night. they talked about more than a couple times.

>>87602066
>japanese
I don't care

>>87602089
this is the fuwamoco thread not your blog

>>87602089
Baused

>>87602089
KEK baused

>>87601660
Shikka shikka

>move to japan
>aqua graduated
>ame affiliated
>akiba misudo killed
>actor dieded

>>87603069
akira toriyama also passed away not long after the move

>>87603069
Don't forget A-chan retiring

>>87603085
Sayuri too, though probably not someone they know because her music is too recent

>>87603069
>>87603085
>>87603196
>>87603215
Don't care. The year of FuwaMoco!

Literally who?

>>87603085
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>87603268
>first original song
>first live concert
>reached 1 million subs
>good smils figures announced
Yes, despite all the shitposts about the phrase, it has objectively been the Year of FUWAMOCO

>>87603069
>>87603085
>>87603196
>>87603215
The universe doesn't want them to be in Japan.

>>87603385
They'll achieve all of their dreams, but in doing so, they'll lose all the things they love and enjoy about Japan

>>87603423
Neither do Ruffians.

>>87603521
There is no gain without loss, I guess...it just makes their accomplishments more meaningful and important then

i'm homework

Doggy pack post btw

MEMBER POST (REAL)

>Recordings, dance practice, homework, everything!!
everything but streams

stupid fucking stubborn dogs

we're back to this dumb joke again?

>>87603860
Meh I don't really give a fuck today, I had a lot of fun watching Biboo

>>87593848
What a pair of dangerous beasts

voice pack #112 is more important than their Advent and Patra collabs

>>87603892
Did you miss the part where they said a lot of staff depend on them to get the work done?
>it might be surprising for some ruffians
I guess they meant retards like you

>>87603954
fuck off retard stop biting into their excuses

>>87603954
They're the retards who keep accepting every single shitty homework thrown at them

>>87603954
This is exactly why their health is shit, dumb tranny.

>>87603954
If they didn't take as much homework as they do they wouldn't have a lot of staff depending on them.

It's okay because they're doing their best.

I can’t wait for them to complain about a lack of sleep and balance on stream some more when it’s their own doing

>>87604105
They are hungry puppies. Their ambition and work ethic is why they are where they are. I don't begrudge them chasing their dreams with everything they've got. So long as they continue to communicate what is going on, I will support whatever they do.

>>87604262
Sure, I want them to kill themselves too

>>87604249
I mean it's normal for ambitious people to work too hard and complain about the effects of it. Whether it's your choice or not doesn't make you more or less tired.

>>87603953
I think the Patra thing is already recorded since it is 3D.

>>87603860
They stream more than almost anyone in EN.

I want them to do their best but I also want them to understand that it's not the end of the world if they take care of their health too. truly impossible

If they're going to keep taking homework every single time there's an opportunity then they should schedule more homework days and stream less. They end up cancelling streams anyway because they've overworked themselves into poor health, so it'll end up being more or less the same except they won't be killing themselves

>>87604065
>>87604105
retard alert

They are literally killing themselves to do homework...

>>87604262
Kys yescuck

>>87604443
Also adding that FUWAMOCO are talking to a wall when they mention all the homework they MUST take and do. Ruffians are talking to a wall when they say don't do that and rest as well

Homework isn't bad. Every time they have to go over this for the lazy third worlders that start spamming the chat about it when they bring it up.

I don't use social media beyond this place. Are people being shitty about them being sick outside of containment? Why are they being so defensive?

>>87604458
This thread is full of entitled NA ruffians who've never put in a day of hard work in their lives.

Shit sucks but it is what it is. I’ll appreciate their efforts at least

>>87604286
they are literally taking a break right now for that reason sister...

>>87603954
Okay, nice! They should overwork themselves to death to not make the staff members have to reschedule the homework and make them work on a different day! Sounds fantastic!! Inconveniencing the staff? Nah, let's just work to death!

>>87604553
>they want us to understand how important homework is
>we want them to understand how important health is

>>87604681
You do know a lot of paperwork is time critical right?

They really are Japanese

>>87604753
>FWMC are going to overwork themselves to death
no...

I just want them to be able to sleep for more than a couple of hours each night

>>87603954
Not only are they the ones choosing the homework that the staff are trusting them to do since they accepted it, it’s their responsibility to be taking care of themselves so that they can actually do things in a suitable manner. They’re the reason they’re sick. They’re the reason they have so much to do. They’re the reason for all of their mistakes but they don’t learn and in fact keep stretching themselves thinner making it even harder for themselves as time goes on. They can’t complain for the hole they dug for themselves and don’t deserve the sympathy.

>>87604590
They're just clarifying for the dumbasses that say they should drop homework. I stg Fuwawa and Mococo have responded to the retard in chat saying that at least 5 times by now.

>>87604676
They were literally doing homework while incredibly sick because they didn't want to inconvenience the people depending on them. They should fucking reschedule if they are sick, it's that simple, it's what all of their senpai do. They are the only ones in hololive accepting ALL the homework and doing all of that homework while being sick.

>>87604616
Uh oh the thirdies are getting uppity again.

>>87604616
Yeah clearly no one does any work in the most productive country on the planet

>>87604851
>it's what all of their senpai do
If you actually watched them you would know nearly every talent has worked while sick. there are things which cannot be rescheduled

>>87604843
And they SHOULD stop accepting ALL the homework, you stupid faggot. Did you read what they said??? They take so much homework that they don't have any time to rest, and because of that they can't stop working even when they are sick.
>B-but
You know their senpai? the senpai that they love and admire so much, the senpai that are much more popular and successful than FWMC? None of them, not a single one of them accepts all the homework they get. FWMC are the only ones doing this, and they are destroying their bodies in the process. Doing all the homework they do is NOT sustainable.

>>87604455
They don't always know when they'll have homework though. There's a lot of floating deadlines because they are working with a lot of different people. Sometimes the opportunity is RIGHT NOW. Streaming is fun but it's not what they are here to do. They want to be idols. Not just streamers.

>>87604945
Yeah, they do it for some VERY important things that are literally impossible to reschedule, but FWMC ALWAYS put the homework before their health. They always talk about "people depending on them" as an excuse to not take care of themselves.

Some of you act like we live in a vacuum and that they haven’t constantly talked about their poor living space, how they barely sleep, how they barely eat, and how they keep taking all of the homework. They can’t have it all and you’re seeing the effects with how many things they constantly cancel and how they’re always having problems with their health. But yeah let’s keep doubling down on homework and scheduling a stream every single day because they can totally do it like they have been every week.
>It might be surprising for some Ruffians, but a lot of staff depend on us
What a passive aggressive slap to the face. Of course we know they rely on you, it’s one of the reasons why we keep telling them to slow down, stream less, and take better care of themselves but time and time again they show they don’t care what anyone else thinks or how we care.

>>87605055
>And they SHOULD stop accepting ALL the homework, you stupid faggot.
Every time somebody says this in chat they get shut down by Mococo who says that homework is always a good thing and you should be excited for it. They still have a complex and worry about people not knowing who they are, you're not going to change their minds. Homework = opportunities that you can only get in Hololive, sponsorships, songs like the Futakire cover, connections to big artists.

>>87604737
Okay. Then maybe they should have a bit of foresight, expect some things to go wrong sometimes, and take less homework to have extra time when things go wrong.

>>87605057
I'm aware they want to be idols, it's why I'm supporting their journey. The fact that streaming isn't what they're here to do is exactly why I said I want them to stream less and just leave more time open to get work done. They aren't going to do that though, because even though being idols is their dream, they still like streaming for ruffians and interacting with them. They said they're still trying to find balance, and I want to trust them, but it feels like they're just stubbornly hitting health walls

>>87605202
>But yeah let’s keep doubling down on homework
The Ruffians don't make the decisions, they do. You cannot control them. You cannot influence them to do anything other than what they want. You're along for the ride, you don't hold the reins and there is no point getting angry about things you cannot control

they want you to support them as idols, not as your pretend girlfriends. its not that complicated

>>87605299
>>87605381
I just want them to stop killing themselves and make smarter decisions.

>>87605381
they are my pretend girlfriend idols

>>87605425
I think we'd all like to see them take care of themselves a little better but it's out of our hands. I don't know what you think we can do, they already got advice from Marine and Mori.

>>87605425
millions of people go to work sick every day, especially if they have deadlines, ESPECIALLY in Japan. they have a cold not cancer

testing

>>87605513
Why do you think I’m complaining here and not in their comments?

>>87605525
Don’t act like it hasn’t been an ongoing struggle since they moved. They haven’t been sleeping, they haven’t been eating, they’ve been sick multiple times and had throat problems, can barely even remember what happens day to day, they can’t even be bothered to get essential stuff for their home. There’s a difference between going into work sick for a few days and doing this whatever that is for almost a full year now.

Do you know who got the right to veto their work if they deemed it too much for their health though?
You know, someone whose job is to literally manage their workload?

>>87605575
the black borders? me

>>87605743
You know who took them off Twitter for a week and now no longer works for them?

>>87605696
Crunch is a fact of life in creative industries. They aren't even sleeping at the studio yet

>>87605807
And do you know who's about to get thrown out again for failing to oversee their health and somehow forced them to record while sick?

>>87605743
You know who they mentioned in one of their last streams that said were worried about them but they still continue to go down this self destructive path?

>>87605807
>You know who took them off Twitter for a week and now no longer works for them?

>>87605859
And do you know who can still pull the plug out regardless?

>>87605817
It’s crunch time they themselves constantly produce though despite all the warnings they’re getting from everyone and even their bodies.

I just don't understand some of you... Why the fuck are you defending them?? Do you want them to overwork themselves to death? Do you *honestly* believe that taking every single opportunity that they get is a good idea?

They don't sleep, they barely eat, they don't have the time to go out on a walk, they don't have the time to relax and watch anime, play VNs or watch TV. You always say "B-but muh streams!", but they literally told us that streams are just the tip of the iceberg of all the work they do daily. Streams are the "time to relax". They could completely stop streaming and they would just use the extra time to do even more homework.
They NEED to stop accepting all the homework. Their senpai agree, their parents agree, most of the Ruffians agree and even their fucking manager agrees. So why don't you? Do you think that you are getting brownie points by agreeing with everything they do?
It's just sad, and I can't understand how some of you can defend this. They are actually going to damage their bodies permanently. I'm genuinely concerned about their health, and it's just depressing seeing some of you encourage their behavior... I just don't get it.

>>87605961
I'm not defending them
I'm berating the person whose job is to literally manage their workload and/or living condition

>>87605855
>>87605930
Deadlines and contracts don't change because you got sick. It's not like they're flipping burgers and someone can just cover their shift

>>87605924
And do you know who will get the other removed once again and have history repeat itself?

>>87605961
Some people understand making personal sacrifices for your career when it is important to you, which it is to them

>>87606003
Then I blame the manager for not having foresight.
That's like, one of their job requirement.

>>87605381
>t-there not y-your pretend gf
Look at your monkey ass self sitting there in your mudhut crying. FWMC are in fact my wives and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>87606022
And if we repeat that cycle fast enough, we'd have a healthy FUWAMOCO!
Win-win

>>87606003
It’s the hole they dug for themselves. The reason they’re sick is because of themselves. The reason they have so many deadlines is because of themselves. They’re in the position they put themselves in and keep doing it and keep getting worse

>>87606085
>The reason they have so many deadlines is because of *their manager
fixed that for you
literally the one with the knowledge of when's all the deadline gonna be even before the talent know the homework exist

>>87606069
We all know it’s not getting any better.

>>87605575
>shorts are not invading /baubau/
Grim

>>87606124
Maybe it's because their manager a piece of shit yesmen

>>87606121
Holy shit they didn’t need to accept everything. Everything has a deadline so obviously things will get congested at some point. That on top of constantly trying to stream/collab is so stupid.

Their manager gets paid better/promoted sooner the more work FUWAMOCO complete. So maybe they don't have their best interests at heart.

>>87606124
Each time the manager suspected to be changed, we got a healthy FUWAMOCO for around 3 month-ish
So we just need to change the manager every 3 month to have a year-long healthy FUWAMOCO
ezpz

>we will always protect your smiles!
7DTD?
>no
why are they like this

>>87606184
Exactly
Their manager doesn't need to offer everything and/or accept everything that they accept
Their job is to literally plan ahead, just includes the talent's fucking health condition into the plan like someone with actual foresight

>>87606046
And what a glorious career it'll be. They'll shine the brightest for 2 years until they permanently damage their voices and are forced into retirement, become depressed and kill themselves.
But really now, are you actually a psychopath? Do you not understand that their health is more important than doing all the homework they can accept? Do you even care about them as people or do you just see them as fictional characters? They are real girls, you know? If they permanently damage their voices then their careers are literally over.

>>87606003
>Accept less homework = less deadlines = more time to rest
HOLY SHIT!! I JUST CRACKED THE CODE! I'M A FUCKING GENIUS!

>>87606264
You know that it isn’t just mane-Chan bringing them offers, right? They’ve also told us already that mane-chan schedules literally everything for them already but they use whatever time they have for rest for something stupid like an extra stream or just scrolling through twitter.

>>87606293
There is no reason to believe they are doing permanent damage to their voices. They literally just went to a doctor who told them Mococo's throat was fine.

>just now saw the memberpost
>"so even if we’re sick and should be resting, it’s important we power through"
Am I weird one for thinking you should rest and recover when sick? So you can do a better job later?
>"We just wish that we could have been in a bit better condition for today!!"
Maybe you could've been, if you didn't always "power through" and gave yourselves time to rest

The real question is why they posted it at all. Seems to me like they either got told off by someone (I'd guess the dogtor), or are trying to convince themselves that this is the best way of doing things (it isn't)

>>87606332
actual anti wtf

>>87606293
Imagine how devastating it will be when they permanently damage something and they can’t fulfill their dreams because of it.

>>87606365
They’re absolutely looking for validation.

>>87606332
>>87606085
They would rather work than rest. Obviously. They're not complaining about having a lot to do.
>>87606052
How were they supposed to predict they would get sick for a week? Are managers meant to be psychic? No one builds in weeks of padding around deadlines in case someone gets a cold.

Has /baubau/ reached a consensus on whether they will be present for the advent collab?

>>87606365
They want headpats for working hard, and deserve them.

Yeah man, I'm sure the nation with the corporate culture that has a word for "death by overwork" will help them balance it out. What kind of shitty weebs are you? Japan has a huge emphasis on self reliance and independence there. People don't like to ask for help and help isn't offered randomly. It's why they are also more tolerant of fetishes as long as you are quiet and don't harm anyone. Maybe in the West a manager would look after their health. But in Japan everyone assumes that you take care kf your own shit until proven otherwise. It doesnt matter if the talents collapse at home as long as they get the work done when they are in the studio. Its why Coco, a western girls, was so loved by everyone because she looked after them in a way most staff didnt. Achan too. Cover won't give a fuck unless they actually miss something or die, ideally we shluld avoid getting to that point. The problem is FWMC say they can handle it while they disintegrate before our eyes

>>87606456

>>87606448
They complain all the time about not having enough time.

>>87606456
perchance

>>87606360
Their voices are okay, yes, but they barely eat, sleep or exercise, and they literally don't have time to relax and rest, and ALL of those things are related to their voices in one way or another.

>>87606522
They don't complain about homework. It is their priority.

They want to get more idol gigs for JP bros. They don't want to stream for you retards. It's that simple.

With how much they're overworking themselves and genuinely destroying their health, I'm not even annoyed or disappointed because of the lack of streams or the dip in quality in streams anymore, I'm just worried at this point.

>>87606360
>They literally just went to a doctor who told them Mococo's throat was fine
More accurately, it's FUWAMOCO who told US that it's fine
I wouldn't trust their judgement when it comes to deciding on what is "okay" or not

>>87606528
you can't just say perchance

>>87606615
I'm multitasking. I am annoyed, disappointed, and worried.

>>87606569
Some of their homework is literally exercise. They do dance reps. Regardless, a lack of physical fitness does not make you lose your voice.

>>87606622
At least they don't have throat nerds yet

>>87606580
Homework takes up all of their time, they complain about not having time for other things, therefore they’re complaining about homework

>>87606663
i'm homework

>>87606649
It absolutely does because it increases the chance of acid reflux, heartburn and GERD which destroys your throat and vocal cords.

>>87606649
I wish they would do the sleep homework more.

>>87606622
wow, a man with no medical training thinking he knows more about two women's health and bodies than they do themselves, I'm truly shocked

>>87606615
I'm amused at their situation, but ultimately indifferent. They'll only listen to the brown-nosers and sycophant pay puppies after all.

Well with recent events and this member post. I will stop worrying or feeling sad. There is something admirable about them just powering through shit and getting things done, even while sick. No point in getting angry, sad. I am just disappointed in their worldview and how they see homework but now I will just receive news of stream cancellation due to health related issues with a: I see, instead of feeling any sort of worry. If anyone else is still going to lose their minds over this… Good luck, I just realized how foolish it was to think that our voices and opinions, could sway them about something they feel so passionate about.

>>87606685
and there is zero indication they have any of that

>>87606636
...mayhaps

>>87606448
Are you actually stupid? Like literally, clinically retarded?
>How were they supposed to predict they would get sick for a week?
Use your fucking brain. They take too much homework, so when something goes wrong they don't have the wiggle room to change things, and they should ALWAYS expect *something* to go wrong. It's basic common sense, specially when they already have deadlines for other things.

>>87606615
They want to be idols in Japan. Now that they live there and have reached 1M, streaming isn't their priority. Doing homework gets them closer to their dream since it'll open up more opportunities.

>>87606839
you have never worked a non minimum wage job in your life

kek at seeing a recent Kiara tweet and thinking about their sleep situation. I don't know what exactly they want from some of us. I'm not exactly heartless enough to not worry over their health, if I didn't care about it then that means I wouldn't be into their content

>>87606839
No way man, all they've been doing is getting 4 hours of sleep for months and not eating full meals, how are they supposed to know that they probably wont feel well? Nobody can see the future.

>>87606345
>You know that it isn’t just mane-Chan bringing them offers, right?
Mane-chan still got rights to veto those offers anyway
>They’ve also told us already that mane-chan schedules literally everything for them already but they use whatever time they have for rest for something stupid like an extra stream or just scrolling through twitter.
Mane-chan should have foresight that they'd do that take that into accounts when making schedules then.

>>87606448
>How were they supposed to predict they would get sick for a week?
Not that hard to predict if you know their living condition and even their medical records.
>Are managers meant to be psychic?
Basically yes.
Their job is to literally plan ahead.
>No one builds in weeks of padding around deadlines in case someone gets a cold.
Only the bad managers

>>87606649
Nice! Do they also have homework that helps them with the lack of sleep and the shitty diet? Or homework where they get to relax and just stop thinking about work for a moment?

We should just tell them to cancel EN streams so they don't have to wake up early and get more rest.
No one will complain if they only do JP streams during prime time JST, since that's more manageable.

>>87606500
Maybe if you're a normal employee, but they're idol.
Managing their idol's health is the manager job, because they'll be the one that get burned if the idol get sick somehow.

I don't know about you guys but when I go to catch a train or a plane, I always plan to arrive just as the plane or train is leaving because I am a grown up adult who has held many jobs and things like traffic or long lines never happen. Planning for extra wiggle room is just a waste of time.

>>87606998
Mane-chan should start adding those to schedule ngl

>>87606950
>take that into accounts when making schedules
And where does that allocated free time go when they find out they have some? Right back into more work. When they accept everything and want to do everything there’s only so much leeway. No matter how much time you put into scheduling things there’s a point where you can’t. She isn’t a miracle worker.

>>87607118
>Right back into more work
Can't have more work if the managers veto it out.

>>87606727
>it INCREASES THE CHANCE of acid reflux, heartburn and GER
Do you know what "increases the chance" means??
I'm starting to get the feeling that the "Ruffians" that defend FWMC doing all of this homework are actually, unironically retarded.

can a trackerschizo let me know the possibility of fwmc getting sick for Christmas since they will want to do 70 things at once

>>87607078
>>87607136
Does it fucking seem like the manager is managing their health at all?

>>87606998
I know for this is hard for you to fathom as you stand behind a cash register every day, but some people like their careers, and would rather be working their dream job than jerking off all day

>>87607080
>he doesn't arrive early to plant your friends to rescue you in case shit goes wrong
Amateur

>>87607170
Then they should.
It's their fucking job.

>>87607150
>THEY NEED TO SLEEP OR THEY COULD GET HEART BURN AND HAVE TO RETIRE
fucking listen to yourself schizo

>>87607136
Can’t veto it out when they push back and pull another Suzu.

>>87607080
Do you also show up to work an hour early every day in case you get stuck in traffic?

>>87606892
They get to decide, you stupid buffoon.
They can accept or decline homework, so they should take into account the possibility of something going wrong (like getting sick), and leave some wiggle room to operate when thing go wrong.
You probably just live in a pathetic 3rd world shithole that doesn't give a single fuck about the quality of life of their citizens, but some of us live in civilized countries, and the idea of overworking yourself to death is not really a problem for us.

>>87607213
Even Suzu managed to veto their shit before getting pulled out.
Just need to pull enough Suzu.

>>87607196
But what if they have a history of having severe heart burn and got hospitalized for it once before, hm?
And do yo know who got access to that kind of medical records?

>>87607150
>spoiler
Yeah? I got that sense from the beginning. The same type to plug their ears when they hear something they don't like
That or it's falseflagging

They are so here. That YT post was directly aimed at menheras here and on the cliquecord.

>>87607327
Waves of mane-chans come in, tell them they can’t do 1 specific thing, and leave out the front door right after. Are they fast enough to cancel more than FWMC can accept?

>>87607230
Work maybe 15 minutes if everything goes well but I am sure as shit at the gate an hour before my plane leaves .

>>87607485
Mane-chan's the one that submitted all their paperwork, so of course they do.
The question is more on whether FUWAMOCO can drop mane-chan fast enough before they cancelled too much of their homework.

What do we think? Are they dropping out of the Phas collab later?

>>87607175
I'm happy that they are having fun with the job of their dreams. Let's see if their bodies last 2 more years.

>>87607550
hard to say since there is an announcement attached to the collab

>>87607550
I don't think so, going by the tone of their recent members post.

>>87607392
>its falseflagging to defend FWMC's decisions in /baubau/
jesus christ you people

>>87607551
bro fucking coal miners last for decades, they play games and sing for a living, get a grip

Suzu2 shaping up to not to be that good after all.
Didn't she know that whenever she miscalculated their health and stupid decision, it's her that's going to get raped by all the parties involved instead of FUWAMOCO?

>>87607196
Oh! So you are actually retarded, thanks for telling us! You can cure your severe mental retardation by blowing your fucking brains out.

>>87607673
>coal miners last for decades
I actually got to research this shit a while back and the one near mine actually have a working expectancy of just a decade max.

>>87607295
yeah and that's why we're the world's only super power. hope you enjoy your work life balance when the nukes start falling

>>87607649
>its falseflagging to defend FWMC's terrible and stupid decisions that will end up damaging their bodies in the long run
Yes.

>>87607740
post it on main, pussy

Most of the work they do is not that demanding. Some people act like they work in a coal mine instead of playing video games and recording few lines of a script

>>87607776
Already did, you retarded faggot. Now go find my comment so you can post it here and cry about it, moron.

I just read the members' post. I really don't understand them, they don't realize that if they don't sleep and eat well, they become more susceptible to illness and their productivity and time for the things they love so much decreases. They also don't realize that this overwork gives a terrible image to Hololive as a company

>>87607799
sure you did bud

>>87607673
>coal miners
>won't feel symptoms for potential year(s) 'cause you need long exposure
>once you have the coal lung you're stuck with it for the rest of your life
>you can only take short term treatments to suppress symptoms
>even then with best case scenario your life expectancy drops by at least 10 years
Wow, great comparison. 3 of the points still apply to voice work

>>87607673
>>87607780
You are a newfag. You probably don't even know who Marine is or what happened to her.

>>87607840
this retard doesn't understand the difference between vocal cord nodules and a cold

So many doctors just wasting their time on 4chan. Really makes you wonder

>>87607780
Doing a character voice all the time will fuck you up like what's happening with Mococo. It's why Suisei stopped doing it and started streaming with her real voice.

>>87607903
They literally told us that they don't sleep, barely eat, and don't have time to relax. Do I need to be a doctor to say that they won't last long if they keep doing this?
Do your brain reps, anon! And read a book or two someday! I'm sure someday you'll eventually understand!

>>87607923
even if that is a true future possibility, it is completely irrelevant to the current situation because her voice is fucked because she is sick, nothing to do with voice acting, as confirmed by a doctor

>>87607886
You are so fucking retarded that it's actually laughable. Honestly, how did you end up being so retarded? Did your father hit you with a baseball bat on the head every day when you where a kid? You don't have any fucking idea of what you are talking about.
Read this and slit your own throat:

Vocal fold nodules are thought to be the result of vocal fold tissue trauma caused by excessive mechanical stress.[1][2][5] (...) Vocal overuse (speaking for long periods), abuse (yelling), or misuse (hyperfunction) may produce excessive amounts of mechanical stress by increasing the rate and/or force with which the vocal folds collide. This may lead to trauma that is focalized to the mid-membranous vocal fold[5] and subsequent wound formation.[2] Repeated or chronic mechanical stress is thought to lead to the remodeling of the superficial layer of the lamina propria.[5] It is this process of tissue remodeling that results in the formation of benign lesions of the vocal folds such as nodules.[2][5]

There are several factors that may predispose an individual to vocal fold nodules. (...)Gender may be another predisposing factor, as vocal fold nodules occur more frequently in females.[5] The presence of dehydration, respiratory infection, and inflammatory factors may also act as predisposing or aggravating factors. Inflammatory factors may include allergies, tobacco and alcohol use, laryngopharyngeal reflux, and other environmental influences.[1]

wuffians sure are psychopathic

>>87608098
KEK, anon you didn't have to destroy him like that...

>>87608019
Do you actually think they'll ever admit that it's because of voice acting to ruffians, even if it's what the doctor diagnosed?
Let's just leave it to Mococo being sick instead of speculating what caused it.
All I'm saying is that doing a character voice for hours everyday is more demanding than what people think.

Why should FuwaMoco listen to a bunch of ignorant Americans about Japanese workplace culture. You should all be proud and honored that they're working so hard for their goals.

>>87607780
A non-significant number of singers actually stopped early due to work-related sickness.

>>87608098
cool, now post literally any evidence whatsoever of them having vocal nodules. and preferably without your cringelord preamble next time

>>87608098
>You are so fucking retarded that it's actually laughable. Honestly, how did you end up being so retarded? Did your father hit you with a baseball bat on the head every day when you where a kid? You don't have any fucking idea of what you are talking about.
>Read this and slit your own throat:
HOOOOLY BAUSED

>>87607923
Which do you think is more probable?
Mococo doing character voice on debut and slowly relaxing herself over time, or vice versa?

>>87608200
If you think FWMC are liars why are you even here, dude?

>>87608255
>>87608194
>>87608098
embarrassing samefagging

>>87608255
>>87608194
>>87608098
embarrassing samefagging

>>87608255
>>87608194
>>87608098
samefags

>>87608297
>>87608329
>>87608338
nobody got you the way I do
whatever demons you're fightin' through
when you need somebody to turn to
nobody got you the way I do

>>87608246
But do you know who hold the medical record that may or may not contains that information?
While having the right to, you know, manage their workload to evade that shit?

>>87608264
Vice versa because in the beginning she was more nervous about what she should/shouldn't do and focused more on her actions in front of everyone on stream
Now that she got used to being in front of so many eyes and gained some trust with them she doesn't need to worry about people thinking she's weird or dumb, so she focuses on putting up a voice so people call her cute

I want to go back, to the time everything was comfy

>>87608360
Their records say they don't have it which is why their manager has no concerns with their workload.

>>87608264
Do you actually think debutFuwaMoco gets the same amount of projects and homework they do now?

>>87608246
Holy hell, you really are a fucking retard aren't you? You are unironically the most stupid motherfucker that I have ever met...

NO. THEY DO NOT HAVE VOCAL NODULES **RIGHT NOW**, BUT THEY COULD **VERY** EASILY DEVELOP THEM IN THE NEAR FUTURE IF THEY KEEP ACTING LIKE THIS.

DO. YOU. UNDERSTAND. YOU. STUPID. LOBOTOMITE ??

Genuine question: do you intend on marrying one or are you WHORE that will marry both of the twins?

>>87608513
they could also get hit by a car on a way to the studio

>>87608297
>>87608329
>>87608338
embarrassing samefagging

>>87608533
I'm going above and beyond and marrying them both and my JP oshi

Imagine losing your voice because you spend 1-2 hours of your whole day pitching your voice up a little
Women are so pathetic

>>87608416
they sounded better on debut, way too high pitched now

>>87608513
hours of superchat readings and screaming at horror games do more damage to their voices than any of their homework does. and you sound cringe as fuck

>>87608536
But if it's a car they won't get isekai'd...

>>87608536
People usually walk on the sidewalk and obey traffic lights to reduce the risk of being hit by a car. A more accurate analogy for them would be walking on the road with their eyes closed every day on their way to the studio.

Is Mococo's natural voice like the one she does during Twitter Spaces?

>>87608709
ueh isekai

I hope they crash and burn soon. If they have to learn the lesson the hard way, then so be it. I'll just hope that they don't permanently damage their bodies to learn that lesson.

>>87608428
And yet Suzu1 get booted out because she can't take that into account.

>>87608734
Twitter Spaces can make you sound different due to using your phone mic and compression. It makes some people sound like they have a lisp for example

>>87608871
I feel like this rrat has been repeated so frequently people forgot its a rrat. They changed managers because they moved countries. They have different people handling different timezones.

>>87608734
it's like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4mApM2pEu0

>>87608947
Suzu1 get booted out after the Taiwan shit post-move though
And it makes sense too because someone need to take a hit after that embarrassing display, and it sure ain't FUWAMOCO.

>>87608416
And yet all those debuts do the exact opposite for the same exact reason.

>>87608416
>she doesn't need to worry about people thinking she's weird or dumb
>so she focuses on putting up a voice so people call her cute
doesn't compute, anon

>>87608947
I don't know why they changed managers but I can tell you this isn't it. beforehand they constantly talked about only contacting suzu1 at midnight and the sort and I specifically remember how suzu1 had to wake up every few hours one time checking something perm related for one of their covers

>>87608947
>They changed managers because they moved countries
That not how that works though? That's also not how it played out either

New horror slop soon but it actually looks fun
https://x.com/denfaminicogame/status/1846830176845681149

>not cloning yourself so Mococco and Fuwawa can have their own anon

>>87609334
I'm more than enough for both of them.

>>87609334
Amateur

>>87609185
speaking of horrorslop, how's s-siren anyway
i see it floating around in my feed and it seems like something right up their alley

>>87609539
You mean the PS2 game?
They wouldn't understand it and they would never finish it either
At best they get the "joke" ending on their first run and call it there
A shame because it's an actually interesting game with many protagonists and their POVs intertwining

>>87609685
I mean whichever one that Subaru plays here
>it's an actually interesting game with many protagonists and their POVs intertwining
well, shit, now I'm actually curious
I guess I'm gonna check out Subaru's

>>87609748
I watched Korone's true end/100% playthrough of it and know that Friend was doing it too
If I remember correctly the story was based on days and the actions you took on each day with each character would lead to new POVs or branching outcomes that would affect the ending
It might get a little confusing at times but yeah it's a really good watch if you can understand what's going on

>>87609895
iirc subaru's did a written summary in en of what happens on last episode so that'd helps i guess

>>87609950
Just checked her channel and she's done 5 streams of it already each being around 5 hours, she probably doesn't have much left to clear it all so you could just watch the vods from the start I guess

>>87610080
>5x5 hours
>still not done yet
kek I took back my first impression, this doesnt fit for FWMC at all