/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Because the guy has a lot of money and can afford to run it in the red until he gets tired of it

We all know who makes it possible

>>87057071

>>87057071
Luck. Plain and simple. They were lucky enough to not hire anyone who would destroy the finances beyond repair with a sudden graduation.

>>87057071
Literally who?

>>87057454
pretty much

>>87057454
Yes the failed manager carried by a company that already popular before she even joined.

>>87057071
Fish hires autistic women and weeds out queen bee mean girls.
Also he is heavy on female managers. The lead manager is Muumi, allegedly a veteran of the industry, speaks Japanese and Korean and has a Psych master's.

>>87058612

>>87057071
Cuckoldry is in demand in the vtubing space and phasegods have a monopoly on it

>>87058728
Didn't she work for NijiEN for a while?

>>87058915
The rumor is that she was a part of NijiKR and briefly EN before leaving

>>87058915
No that was a lie that phasegods tried to insert themselves into the gurrat
Muumi worked for a NijiJP affiliate branch the same org as Nasa's

>>87057071
Coffee sells. Also he has other businesses and managed to reel back since bringing in Muumi which ultimately saved a few people from graduating.

Phase Connect is actually one of the better companies to work for, despite the rabid fanbase. It'll stay alive until Fishman is ready to call time on it.

>>87059185
>It'll stay alive until Fishman is ready to call time on it.
Fish has a 40 year plan for Phase and jokes about employing the children of the current talent.

>>87057071
pander to chuds
it's that simple

>>87059168
Oh the virtual hostess club thing

>>87059270
More like he should be hiring the mothers of the talent. Rinmama would make money.

>>87059270
>and jokes about employing the children of the current talent.
I really don't want to think about Pippa reproducing

>>87057881
Mumi is a witch

>>87059369
What about Uruka?

>>87059185
He's a good businessman but a shitty talent manager. Thankfully he's smart enough to realize that and hired good talent managers. They supposedly hired a JP manager a few months ago and their JP gen has been blowing up lately so apparently he has a good eye for talent.

>>87059270
But he wouldn't allow his own daughter to become a vtuber, fuck that guy.

>>87059464
20 years from now half of the new talent will be the daughters of blue bear

>>87057071
it is NijiEN done right, let hope he didn't get a stroke and debut a luxiem equivalent.

>>87059514
Here's hoping the new Invaders are worthwhile poaches and not just more reactivated corpses from Tsunderia.

>>87057071
>zero yabs
>zero graduations
>20000000% growth
>all girls happy
>earning more money than most of holo
seriously how the fuck is Phase so fucking powerful?? why couldn't others do the same?

>>87059621
While Luxiem didn't help NijiEN was DoA when they let the clique form

>>87059631
Who is even left from Tsunderia? Lisa joined idol and Ami will never join a corpo

>>87057071
Fishman is mentally stable and a bit smarter than average.

That's it. That's the only thing you need to succeed in the chaotic showbusiness industry of Vtubing. That's what the 95% of other corpos don't have.

>>87059880
Da Wose. His ultimate prize.

>>87059764
Well they did fire Yuri and took her model and channel but didn't she try and steal money or something?

>>87059764
holosister please, this bait has been done before

>>87057071
Coffee.

>>87060018
Who is Yuri I only know Nano I mean Kiba I mean whoever she calls herself next year

>>87060018
Some kind of serious contract dispute

>>87059369
Pippa is only the prelude to madness. Imagine Pippa but as a genuine unloved freak (most likely created in a lab).

>>87059880
Rosemi. And her joining is likely too, considering nijien has been collapsing for a while

>>87059880
hoshino char and almost everyone from gen 2

>>87057263
It takes a bit more than a fuckton of greenbacks to run a vtuber agency. Just ask Niji EN and pre-Brave Idol about the correlation between the CEO's personal wealth and the agency's success/longevity.
Phase's success is not because of Fishman's deep pockets. It's because of Fishman's COMPETENCE. Though, admittedly, him having a fuckton of money does help; but that has more to do with capitalism in general than the vtubing industry in particular

>>87060018
Talents have said things along the lines of
>if you knew, you wouldn't support her
And that's from talents like Tenma, who isn't afraid to screw over the fish.

>>87057071
>other small corpos are dying left, right and center?
By taking the BASED CHUD pill and going hard right of center of course.

>>87060127
Why did she get rid of Nano? Weird.

>>87060339
That was Panko who said the quote, Tenma didn't seem to give a shit and made jokes about it.

>>87059880
>Lisa joins Idol
>Sells out to Brave
>...she stays because they promised her a 3D model
YOU HAD ONE JOB, SAKANA!

>>87060501
Ah shit, you're right. Still, not a bad track record for a small corpo. My personal theory is she wasn't giving Phase their cut from YT monetization

>>87057071
>competition literally killing themselves
>fishman wins by doing absolutely nothing

>>87060601
Lisa admitted on stream she never got an offer from the fish and cried

>>87060733
Biggest missed opportunity they had. I'd also say Yuko Yurei but it turns out Fishman dodged a big bullet with her seeing how it ended over at Idol.

>>87058838
They missed one comma...

>>87059764
>zero yabs
>zero graduations

>>87057071
simple
they running a coffee company not a vtuber one

>>87057071
Older fan base who doesn't lose interest as quickly and has more dispensable income.
Pretty fair contracts that aren't overly generous.
Fishman is a competent businessman and learned to just delegate the talent management shit.
They've got a stranglehold on the older online generation and the more edgy younger viewers.

Phase would have closed its doors too if Fishman didn't hire a bunch of networkers in Gen2
I remember him complaining that no one in Gen1 ever wanted to network or do collabs and he had to force them

>>87059514
>he's smart enough to realize that (he's a shitty talent manager) and hired good talent managers
Like you said, he's a good businessman. A lesser businessman might have hired cheaper talent managers, and would have gotten what they paid for. A much lesser businessman would have let the talents self-manage, and a clique almost certainly would have formed.

>>87059185
Coffee may sell, but WHERE IS MY FUCKING TEA AND HOT CHOCO YOU STUPID FISH?

>>87061723
NGL was never a huge fan of Gen1 but the later gens have several talents I enjoy (Panko, Dizzy, Shiina, Clara)

>>87060488
Some people don't care about self-preservation, in her case she just wants to be quirky and changing her name is a totally uwu quirky thing. So what if it confuses people and fucks with her SEO.
A lot of vtubers fantasize about starting fresh with a new name and they workshop those fantasies but few of them actually do it because they have the self control to recognize the brand and audience recognition they built up over the year, even as 3 or 2views has value. Not Nano tho

>>87061865
I've been trying to convince fish to invest in becoming a gamersupps competitor.

Making the powders would be cheaper that importing all that coffee and it could be done in the US easily for convenient shipping.
The fanbase is already receptive because of the coffee.

this was ogey bait >>87057071
but this >>87059764 is taking it too far
do better next time, sisters

>>87061796
but there are cliques in Phase Connect

>>87059369
I can take care of that, if you don't want her.

>>87060167
Neversemi Leavinglock

>>87062219
anon, thats a penis

>>87062219
>dickenbolz
As expected of Cuck Connect.

>>87062543
I'm sorry that a graph png is bigger than your actual penis anon

>>87062219
Clara needs to be in the same spot as Eimi

>>87059369
I will be putting so many autistic seeds in that dumb autistic yabbit's baby garden we will be called horticulturists.

>>87057071
>Sakana knows how to run a business financially and treats his talent right contractually
>He has GYARI-tier skills in finding good talent
>He gives the girls the illusion of thinking they're working in a cooperative so they work harder to for the sake of the company
>All their managers are professional menhera tard wranglers with PhDs in psychology and psychotherapy
>Talent don't hate each other since they're all self-aware losers so they can't backstab each other
>They have maintained good relationships with indies, businesses, and other corpos
>Despite what the schizos here say they also have good relationships with the wider vtubing community
>Finally, they have a hardcore, ride or die fanbase that supports them through thick or thin
Also they're a coffee logistics company.

Okay so what I'm getting is that while fishman is hardly a genius, he's not a retard either and knows when to delegate stuff to more competent people which honestly makes him smarter than 99% of the people running vtuber corpos

>>87060601
lisa doesn't even like pippa anymore

>>87062773
>Despite what the schizos here say they also have good relationships with the wider vtubing community
The only fucking chuuba I ever seen collabing with phase are phase adjacents like Hexa and Kirsche lmfao what are you talking about

>>87062773

>>87063175
Mint was invited to their first concert

>>87060167
Why would rosemi choose phase over vshoujo or being indie like mint and doki

>>87062773
>PHD
Masters degrees at best

>>87059764
>zero yabs
>all happy
>earning more money
lmao get better bait phasecuck

>>87062773
Amazing. Every word of what you just said is wrong.

>>87060251
>It's because of Fishman's COMPETENCE
He has straight up nearly killed the company multiple times over with his incompetence, his head manager is the one actually holding everything together and if she ever quits it's unironically over for him.

>>87063175
Neuro, multiple Fillian collabs, Doki, Mint guest staring at the concert, all the small corpos they collabed with who are now indies

>>87057071
If you count the devil = the Jews, then the answer is yes

>>87057071
because fishman unironically knows what hes doing ever notice the corpos that go under are all crypto bro passion projects i sure did

>>87057071
Humanity will always consume coffee

>>87057071
Tea is better than coffee

>>87057071
>Did fishman make a deal with the devil
No, but Pippa did

>>87062964
Its surprising how rare this simple quality is...

>>87060488
because she's a nut who has a poor concept of good decisions at the best of times

>>87060905
>a company that already popular
Sorry esl-chama but there's a clear difference between "that" and "that's", a small punctuation mistake like that can make any sentence into just a bunch of esl noises

>>87062964
>>87067369
coincidentally that is how someone would run a successful business/company in general. you just have to be smart enough to hire the right people to keep things running.
sakana's got his retard moments, but he's smart enough to have established a proper corpo that isn't entirely held up by him

>>87057071
being flayon's cocksleeves. homostars buff

>>87057071
phase took the niche cucking market.

>>87057071

>>87057881
/thread

>>87057071
for what i heard Pippa didnt made many demands and didnt mind being exploited while others would had gone indie with their audience. Now id say the company has outgrown her and yes i know she still gets 3k ccv but they have what? other 15 talents with 500 average?

>>87059880
My Wife (platonic). She started streaming again and has been very chummy with all of the Phase girls, though that's probably because she's been friends with many of them for a while.

>>87061723
>Hires a bunch of highly entertaining menhera autistic/introvert women
>Wonders why they are bad at networking
Kek

>>87057071
they have a niche
by pretending to not have a kayfabe the girls make you think that that's actually them

>>87063580
Proof?

>>87063175
Pippa literally collabed with FIllian yesterday and Pam today. Airi and Shiina collabed with Sayu, Clio, and Rennie this week, Tenma collabed with Bonnie Barkswell last month.I could go on and on.

>>87070288
I would expect their numbers to drop across the board if Pippa quit

>>87072771
Proof next thread

>>87072830
I would have thought that a year ago but Pippa has mellowed out
I don't think she retained that original audience

>>87059764
>zero yabs

>>87063580
>well *I* think he's made some mistakes, buddy!
the guy has made an extreme number of good decisions.

>>87057071
Turns out that hiring the worst failures in the industry has it's benefits.

>>87073029
>he considers this a yab
keep reaching, drone

they make a lot of money.
phase has like 5 nene's + pippa herself is 4 nene's.

>>87060251
>It's because of Fishman's COMPETENCE
It wasn’t really his competence at all, it was the competence of his staff. He was humble enough to realize he didn’t know how to do everything on his own, so he hired people to do the things he couldn’t do, fishman is still retarded but at least he realized it before he killed the company.

>>87063175
Lia with Mint
Lia with vedal
Pippa with Filian
Pippa with Henya
Pippa with Mari
Shiina with Sayu
Lia and Hime with Ollie
Dizzy with Rosemi
Pippa, Tenma, Lumi, Lia, Shiina with Shondo
Tenma has so many I don't know where to start

>>87074311
lia was with pomu too. important designation because nijisanji when they mattered were willing to let their big girl collab with phase

>>87057071
Why are Phaseshill threads so pathetic? Stop begging for people to watch your two bit corpo

>>87074424
Then why are you taking the bait?

what's Sakana's most retarded decision so far?

>>87075194
probably the tsunderia nepo hires.
ember is the weakest invader.
muyu and saya are the weakest members of their gen.

>>87072829
>Sayu
phase adjacent
>Clio, Rennie
no clue who they are but they're probably up the same alley
>>87074311
Lia's having more male collabs? lmfao

>>87073029
>>87061312
>>87060096
>no argument
so we can all agree phase had no yabs?
okay good, glad we established that.

>>87075194
Merch fuckups which is ironic since that should've been the easiest to secure and not get ripped off if he wasn't being cheap.
>>87075359
Still positive ROI, not every hire has to be a superstar. Better safe than sorry and they do cover timeslots not taken by others.

>>87075359
Muyu was the strongest member of Euphoria before her long break, and is still probably second

>>87062219
So help me out. Where is the clitorus?

>>87074219
If they have good management then that already sets them apart from other small corpos. Most of the stories I've heard from those fallen corpos is that management was not existent or they used too high of a budget for how much money they make. Talent's give a huge cut of money they make to the company, and they get the clout of the company as well as management. If your company has no clout then you better have good management in order to justify taking 50% of all donations. Otherwise you just sold your soul to get a vtuber model. If 50% of all future profits are an exchange for a $10,000 model and that's it, it's a bad deal.

>>87058612
Fishman has said multiple times that he always does the opposite of whatever she says.

>>87075444
i would say she is #3 in her gen, not that it is saying much. euphoria has been a letdown if we are honest there are no standouts and phase are lucky clara emerged as the standout of those 10 talents including jp.

>>87059286
Were you raped by a chud?

>>87075444
Muyu gets dinged because she is the reason Saya is in Phase. Saya does not fit in the company and was such an odd hire. She makes Phase no money either. They wasted a spot on her.

>>87057910
So…HR skill in hiring, not luck. You can’t even seethe right, a failure of an human being trough and trough.

>>87057263
>Moneyhole
>Sakana said numerous time he’s not in the red with this
Post receipts or go rope.

>>87069055
You got cucked? I still don't see a yab.

>>87075647
with saya I was promised “the most yab and menhera girl ever” and “phase aren’t ready for her. she makes pippa and lia look normal”
nigga what were they even talking about she is the most bland hire they made since shiina but nobody pretended shiina was a wild child

>>87074412
Tell me you haven’t read the quoted post without telling me you haven’t read the quoted post.

Phase is where you go if you're into twitch culture (despite mostly being on YT) and meme spam, also male collabs and ironic weebs.

I'll stick with Pixel, sweet cute girls and lots of positivity and gfe.

>>87075647
Saya isn’t even bad, if she actually streamed she would be pretty good overall, but it’s hard to gain a strong fanbase when you just come and go whenever.

>>87075835
atleast Lumi just is on twitch where she belongs

>>87075835
Pixel is good, but who asked?

>>87075915
Lumi streams on YouTube 4 times a week

>>87075769
Speaking of Phase and shekels, the fish interviews about how a small corpo works like with cash flow are pretty informative.

Like one of the pieces of advice he gives for people trying to join one is to look at the corpo's ability to pay any contractors like artists, riggers, editors and even talent on time because of how irregular revenue is.
There can be months and months of delay for a small corpo to get revenue and its extremely for them to spend money they won't have, not being able to pay people on time is a bad sign of cash flow mismanagement and showing bad things to come.

>>87075952
That's a different Lumi don't fall for the fishmans psyop

>>87075960
a tiny corpo recently died cause of this, yume+. the ceo was basically the only employee aside from the talents from how things sounded, was late paying the girls constantly, and eventually just kind of ghosted them. they managed to bother him into responding, dissolving the company and releasing their IPs. my favorite girl there went on indefinite hiatus after. sad times

>>87076086
Rhea…

>>87076164
yep...

>>87075835
Ngl your opinion smells

>>87057071
Fishman isn't actively evil, stupidly greedy, or desperate. Good at hiring managers and talents. Has more brains than his small corpo competitors. Look at the four EN talents in gen 1. Their content is quite different, both from each other and from the big corpos at the time.
If you hire a bunch of girls who do the same thing as the big corpos, not only are they going to have trouble competing, they'll also wind up competing with each other if there's too much overlap. How many people would watch several different girls play the same game? Sing and dance like Holo, but worse? Maybe if they're already heavily invested in the talents, but you'd got to hook them first.

>>87060018
no. stop peddling this rumor. the character assassination of yuri done by phase is seriously so fucked up

>>87076784
well maybe that bitch should reveal what happened, she is probably outside of an NDA window anyway

>>87074219
He's competent with money, which is more than most small corpos.

>>87076818
Her NDA would most likely be indefinite

>>87076784
We've gone thru this before. Proof next thread?

>>87076534
Stop riling him up to be some second Jesus; he's just a chink who got lucky. Phase Connect's first year wasn't exactly anything to write home about and it was only because of Pippa becoming an unhinged menhera on stream that they inclined, not because of anything he did. All of the other girls were literally whos until like late 2022. Unironically pandering to /here/ got Phase to where it is today (and they still do it).

>>87076880
you can't be forced into a never ending contract that last forever, that's one of the basic rules of common law
it has to have an expiration date

>>87076909
>Proof next thread?
NTA but you keep bringing up this whole character assassination shit when Phase didn’t even tell us what she did, you shouldn’t be asking anyone for proof when you keep peddling nonsense.

>>87077014
Yeah bro, I'm sure Bush will declassify 9/11 on his death bed. Get real.

>>87076909
She jokes on stream all the time about being a thief that steals money because people peddle fake rumors that she did that. She herself says she didn't.

>>87075194
Putting limiters on Lia's content.

>>87076964
I don't know what about whatever I wrote sounds to you like I think he's some "second Jesus". He's just not terrible overall, plus pretty good at hiring so far. It's more that his competition are... were pretty dumb.

>>87077097
are you retarded?

>>87077014
NDAs can be indefinite as long as it's signed into agreement by both parties. I did clipping work for a small company and even I had an indefinite NDA. Of course, I didn't have any information disclosed to me that I'd be able to break said NDA because I was just a clipper, but it was in the contract.

>>87077183
No but you just might be if you think a contract can't be written up to last for life, especially a gag order.

>>87077201
indefinite contracts are unenforceable under most common law countries
just because its written down on some paper doesn't make it legal

>>87077050
>NTA
It goes both ways, bud. But sure, you can keep believe whatever you want
>>87077101
Of course she does. Why would she incriminate herself?

>>87075436
What happened with merch?

>>87077304
Why would she outright say she doesn't? If there was proof she does, she'd be doing herself less of a favor than if she said nothing. Everything she has hinted at towards Phase shows she wants to defend herself but can't, so she has to use roundabout ways.

>>87077232
Anon please don't confuse the ability of the united states federal government to classify national security intel with the ability of a vtuber corporation to enforce their autistic and often ridiculous contracts, kek

>>87077281
They literally get lawyers to draft up the contract, making them legally binding. Getting sick of this "it's unenforceable lol" argument like a judge would just decide on a whim to enforce or unenforce a particular contract.

>>87077281
Not only that, if she decides to violate it, what's fishman gonna do? Waste money on a cross-border lawsuit? I'm sure the Californian judge will be thrill with the petty suit and won't immediately throw it out

>>87077536
Just because a lawyer wrote it doesn't make it legally binding and enforceable if it violates a core aspect of common law.

>>87077536
Honestly anon you just sound inexperienced in this area.
Lots of jobs make you sign ridiculous and unenforceable contracts, often as an intentional intimidation tactic because people (like you) just assume "contract = must be legal! a lawyer wrote it!"
https://www.nachtlaw.com/blog/2024/03/eight-reasons-the-nda-you-signed-might-not-be-enforceable/

>>87077603
I don't think Nano lived in Cali, thought she was east coast

>>87076880
even if it somehow was "reasonably" indefinite, it'd almost certainly be found unenforceable per those terms upon her termination. courts don't like indefinite contracts in the first place, and she'd certainly face no consequences aside from having to deal with a legal system when she almost certainly does not want to.

if she really wanted to, and phase was in the wrong, she could say what she wants to, but unless they REALLY fucked her over i can't see her wanting to deal with the potential headache of speaking out

Yuri getting fired is the one black tacobell shitstain on Phase's underwear that won't wash out

>>87077717
Retard

>>87077610
>>87077630
Not sure why you think an actual, competent lawyer wouldn't know all those things you linked and why vtuber agencies wouldn't hire an actual, competent lawyer to draft an agreement skirting every single one of them but to each their own.

>>87077798
If the words "competent" are the first thing that come to mind when you think of vtuber agencies, their management, and their legal council, after all the insane news we've had this year, you seriously don't pay attention to this industry.

>>87077798
Oh man you have never fought with an insurance company trying to bullshit their way out of a policy in a court huh

>>87077717
>Pretends to be organic new reply
This is why the IPs counter should not be hidden and jannies should be hang from trees

>>87057071
Not hiring your sexpest friends as managers is a good first step.

>>87077866
>the industry is incompetent!!!!!
Not an argument.

>>87077870
No, and I don't see how that's relevant anyway.

>>87077362
Struck the wrong partnerships, the business arrangement with Sakana and the business partners he teamed up with didn't hold up their end of the bargain and get the merch done on time and just strung him along so he is suing them. All the while he has to find others to be able to uphold the original merch agreement so people can get their stuff they paid for. In my opinion, no other factor has affected the company more from a holistic standpoint of financial, PR and time cost combined than that issue.

>>87077717
more like they were flushing the turd. really feels like yuri was in the fault here considering not a single person from phase defended her and she immediately was memoryholed and unpersoned, aside from, you know, panko saying she was in the wrong

>>87077717
that's phasefags' own fault https://youtu.be/1WT8bRvfgaU?t=6784

>>87075565
It think you're underestimating the new JP hires. They're already on pace to matching or already surpassed Gen 1 JP's sub counts and one of them (Yuu) is the highest drawing JP. Plus for Phase JPs they're doing pretty well for a foreign company in an already beyond oversaturated JP market.

>>87075813
>she is the most bland hire they made since shiina but nobody pretended shiina was a wild child
Fuck you, Shiina is great.

>>87057071
Fishman is married and already has a mistress on the side so he's not sexpesting the girls or the managers constantly.
Plus he already has money and a business on the side so he's not desperately trend chasing and donothoning to get rich quick.
That's two entire classes of megayabs off the table from the start, meaning he's basically not going to tank the company himself out of nowhere.

As for success, he literally got a girl who made a suicide vow that she'd either work herself to death to achieve success or literally blow her brains out live on stream.
Luckily for Kevin she became popular. That was the biggest gamble he's taken so far and the only one that legit COULD have imploded the entire company. Like just IMAGINE how things could possibly continue on after that, it's impossible!

>>87059631
Nah, trust me on this one. Amaris Yuri is going to join under the name "Fuura Yuri"

>>87078003
>In my opinion, no other factor has affected the company more from a holistic standpoint of financial, PR and time cost combined than that issue.
Even with that debacle most fans don't have much animosity on that issue, and even light heartedly rib Sakana about it since they know eventually they'll get their merch in a year or two.

>>87078247
>and already has a mistress on the side
Dizzy...

other than only rumors of what cause Yuri's termination, I don't understand the hate directed toward her. She was well liked before the termination, and hasn't done anything really bad at all as Nano. Pippa still plays games with her, Jelly follows her, she has a lot of friends and her fanbase stuck around. I don't see why she has 2 year old hearsay dug up about her every time she's mentioned. Really seems like her only stain is something we don't even know what it is.

>>87078003
He is only suing one distributor who was in charge of a set of plushies. Everyone else he is okay with strangely despite the fact that they are late with delivering.
>>87078330
Sure, more hardcore fans now are fine with it but it's really not great for their merch reputation has gotten to the point it does and even the warehouse he has for final packaging and etc. became an inside joke. It affects gaining new fans and how many people are willing to buy something to wait that long to arrive. As a casual watcher of some girls, it is really offputting to see posts every once in a while in their threads regarding this something along the lines that something took 9 months to come over or someone had backlogged several hundred dollars of merch waiting to arrive or that they forgot they ordered something and then it suddenly arrived on their doorstep late. Admittedly, people do like the quality and it's not cheap China shit and it is better than most small corpos but at Phase's size, you would think that they would've figured this out by now being in their 3rd year and counting of business.

>>87078247
>it's impossible!
I think Lumi could make some jokes about it and keep going just fine

>>87078542
Anons on /vt/ are just desperate to have something, anything, that they can use to claim Phase is a bad company but there just isn't anything substantial so they have to resort to digging up ancient history that was never revealed publicly to make rrats about

>>87062219
>my oshi is a cliqueless loser
she's just like me...

Combo of incredible english gen 1 and probably something like >>87059185 . Selling coffee is one of those high margin merch that flies ubder the radar

>>87063388
Vshojo is a likely outcome, but if you think that notRosemi would be anywhere NEAR as popular and successful as Mint and Doki, you're delusional.

>>87079021
My rrat is that she'll be a "surprise" graduation that will happen before the end of the year and that there will be a fight to get her to go Vshojo vs Phase with Matara and Dizzy doing all the backroom negotiations to get her to go one place or another. I can't really tell at this point who would win though so that will be interesting to see who wins out.

>>87079287
>I can't really tell at this point who would win though so that will be interesting to see who wins out.
Matara with a bullet. She has more political power and influence to get Rose what she wants. Dizzy has nothing to offer.

>>87075565
Runie is a standout because she actually fucking streams.

>>87079437
Does Rosemi want to do a 3D concert and etc. to a live audience? She didn't seem like she was a big idolfag like Mint was. And even though her 3D was lackluster in terms of what Nijisanji put in, I think she basically would have hit all her goals with that otherwise. Dizzy has the emotional support pillar factor and is looked up to by her because Dizzy supported her to get out and apply for Niji. I do agree there might be some recency bias too given maybe how much Rosemi has met Matara in the background vs Dizzy but who really knows. There is also quite a big difference with Youtube vs Twitch despite Vshojo saying yopu don't have to do Twitch and she may not be up for changing platforms since her indie was on Youtube and I am pretty sure she can resurrect her channel like Doki and Mint did. But given how long she has been gone, it could really go either way. I expect it to be close and not as set in stone like you think.

> We'll stop debuting new talents after we get to a nice round 30

what is this move called

>>87080326
He actually said "slow down", not stop hiring. They started 2023 with 15 girls, lost Yuri, got 3 invaders, 5 gen 3, and 5 JP at the start of 2024. That's net+12 in less than a year.
Maybe spamming gens like Niji or Brave isn't the best idea.

>>87080326
pretty sure that's autism

>>87080326
quality over quantity

>>87057071

>>87074219
being able to agree when someone shows what you're doing is dumb is a talent lots of small corpo owners lack. from what I've heard he'll do the same for you

>>87078330
>>87078635
I’m just one datapoint, but the few times I’ve been considering merch, I’m hesitant because of the issues.

which of the talents are spamming these threads? Saya is that you? go fucking stream woman.

>>87082007
she had a karaoke today

>>87060733
>>87060901
Just like with Yuri, they must know something we don't. Either the current roster has issues with Lisa, or Dizzy was very insistent on poaching her, which triggered the fish's apocalyptoc alarms

>>87082461
Before Lisa went to Idol, Pippa went on a drunk rant on who she'd like in Phase and mentioned Lisa.

>>87082527
Yes, Pippa likes her. But Hime hates Pippa(s audience). Same reason Kirsche wont be let in. Being liked by Pippa alone isnt a golden ticket

Yuko will Phase in

>>87083437
She's not being let in again, anon.

>>87075730
Yes, of course. "Skill in hiring".

>>87075835
Totally organic post!

>>87082461
it seemed a very obvious pick, which may be why fishman's alarms went off.
he clearly doesnt like picks that are too obvious

>>87059185
>Coffee sells.
out loud

>>87075813
No, you were never promised that. You were promised a normie that begs for money then fucks off.

Unironically? Cause the girls, sans Tenma, were always extremely receptive to the kind of "memes" created in their /vt/ general which changed the shape and perception of the character they play, making them more attractive and shill worthy. Pippa might have started it but other girls like Lia, Lumi, Panko, Shiina, Jelly, Muyu, etc. didnt mind dipping in either, some more than others.
Now referencing this place is not as novel as it used to be tho, nor all fanbases are made equal, Phase's fanbase was creative as autistically active and annoying as they were.

I don't have a horse in this race but from an outsider's perspective, Phase taking Yuri's character and channel which she had before coming to Phase seemed like a dick move even if they were perfectly in their legal rights to do so.

>>87087156
Same as your situation anon but that's how you deal with insane women

>>87057071

Coffee

>>87078917
Erina is in the Lia clique, you just don’t see it on screen because of time zones.

>>87062219
this is partially wrong.
The Cali Clique is Lia & Uruka's clique. They started it during the first off collab in August 2021.
Shiina is deeply involved in the Cali Clique she goes on vacation with them all numerous times + has known Airi for years before Phase.

>>87087156
They didn't take it, she gave it to get in. Also she didn't want to take it as she left, as that meant paying for it, as contractually agreed.

>>87057071
they've basically just been really lucky but really it's more like fishman knows his bounds and knows what he is and isn't capable of - he is capable of hiring the sadgirls, he is not capable of being the sadgirl whisperer and helping them deal with their worries and quibbles. for that he hired >>87057881.

>>87057881
Could Muumi have saved the other small corpos?

>>87090255
no.
it only works in phase connect
just like their gen1 only works in phase connect. you put origins in tsunderia, and nothing changes they still die. pippa doesn't become pippa etc on down the line.
you put tsunderia's gen1 in phase, and phase doesn't take off either. they become another small corpo spinning their wheels until the money dries up.
it has to be sakana as the boss. it has to be the 4 english girls in their gen1. and it has to be muumi.

even if you replace say uruka with lumi in phase's gen1, the company probably dies because lumi would have almost certainly intervened and tried to be a talent/manager when gen1 said "hire a manager or we quit" because that is what she did in cyberlive. and if that happened, phase dies. it had to be muumi,

>>87082461
Isn't it obvious?
>before Tsunderia died
>Lisa collabed with Phase girls besides Pippa
>hung out with Sakana and Phase girls ar cons
>Tsunderia died
>barely professional contacts with Phase girls
>no collabs
>only Pippa hung out with Lisa at Offkai
>no other con meet up
Lisa did something at the end of Tsunderia's death that put off Sakana and some or most of the girls.

>>87083437
Just because she works in Starbucks doesn't mean she has the experience in working for a coffee company.

>>87073029
this isn't a yab pippa is just retarded

>>87091495
>only Pippa hung out with Lisa at Offkai
pippa, lisa, sleepy, lia, uruka played skeeball at offkai
ember, dizzy and lisa also did a tsunderia meetup that weekend
lisa is friends with the phase cali clique just because they don't collab doesn't mean they aren't friends.

>>87091064
Also, Uruka was doing a lot of the music stuff for everybody, Tenma is the only real gamer, and Pippia is, well, Pippa. They covered a lot of niches in that gen instead of hiring a bunch of idol wannabes.

>>87057071
Keychains, standees, deskmats, mousepads, voice packs, dakis, are all merch that you buy once, maybe two copies for safety, and never again.

Coffee is a consumable good that you can buy over and over again everytime your bag of beans is empty. Endless perpetual revenue. This is why the disgusting gamersupps sponsorships are so popular.

Vtubing isn't going to be viable until more corpos and indies realize two things:
1. Merch pays the most.
2. Consumable merch pays forever.

>>87092133
phase connect fans dont care about music or idol shit

>>87092432
during the 3d concert, the 2 shining stars of the show were the one's who did the idol shit.
it wasn't the ripper or shitpost rapping that people were talking about.

the tide is turning.

>>87092660
>shitpost rappers and irony spouting pickmes and misanthropic male collabers see idol shits getting all the attention and praise
>slowly they start wanting to be idols too
It would be funnier if it wasn't so predictable

>>87063424
Masters are still good enough to tardwrangle content creator women

>>87092432
music isn't just "idol shit". There's bgm, intros, outros, etc. and someone needs to do that leg work if you can't afford to pay for it. Having no music, or crap music would make streams less enjoyable for some and hurt a corpo's chances.

Do people really like phase?
It has such a /pol/ ridden meme lord twitchcord vibe to it.
Like you just know there's an overlap between the people watching this and the kind who also watch asmongold

>>87057071
>How do they do it?
Fake
>Did fishman make a deal with the devil or something?
Gay

>>87093878
I'm not a huge fan and I don't like Pippa but they do have some good people like Panko and Shiina

>>87093959
Shiina, really...

>>87072212
She's very much in the regular day job/streaming as a hobby same as Yuuna. No more entertainment corpos for them.

>>87062138
GOD

imagine a panko tiramisu instant hot choco...
ember rebranded "Abuelita" drinking choco tablets...
sencha/hojicha/genmaicha branded for the japanese group...
powdered electrolyte sweat drink for dizzy and lia....

>>87092236
the coffee is a meme. they very likely dont make a lot of money on that shit.
>>87073888 this is why they are still around and can afford projects. They have girls who make money
and look at the top earners: they make money different ways. tenma does it by rage baiting. lia does it by conversation baiting. airi does it by trauma dump baiting. dizzy does it by girl failure baiting. runie does it by creative gfe. pippa kills it by hottake baiting.

look at the small corpos and follow the money, these are their career supas. you are lucky to have 1 girl break $100,000 career. Phase has several, and has like several others who are well on pace to break that soon. scary thing is Phase's #3 and #4 career earners don't even stream but a couple hours a week. they would clear $200k in their careers easily if they streamed 20 hours a week. and this doesnt even count Lumi with her twitch money she is probably phase's #2 earner. Pippa brings in hololive level money.

yes I know it is career superchats and I am sure the cope will come about streamelements, but Phase gets those too that is a 2 way street. if a girl has good supas, she likely has good everything else.

>>87067968
Missing words can be more attributed to sexdaily or the 'tism than not knowing Englishu desu. But surely you knew that and weren't just hardcore projecting by blurting out "ESL!" anytime someone flubs up even just a little bit, riiiiight, Brownie-kun?

>>87060733
>Lisa never got an offer
Was it just fishman autism rejecting suggestions from other talents to hire Lisa? Was it other talents advising against Lisa? Was it the other talents assuming that she was going to be hired anyway and didn't expect they needed to suggest her and didn't expect fishman to not realize she was a good pick? Was it already having all resources committed for the near future? Was it too many music talents and not enough support for adding another one?

>>87082461
I refuse to believe Lisa, with her history, would be a negative addition to a company.

>>87094791
I love PixelLink, but I worry about PixelLink that they will meet the same fate as nearly every other small corpo.
also lol Brave is in the business of losing money hand over fist they just keep pumping money into these groups and the revenue is just not there.

>>87094987
I don’t see how Lisa is a good pick? Aside from being very good friends with Pippa she doesn’t exactly strike me as a great hire.
She’s a pretty inconsistent streamer and she doesn’t really ever do anything outside of her comfort zone. She’s a great singer but Phase already has a bunch of those.

>>87094791
>Meru in the top 5 tsunderia earners
I love her, but really?

>>87095330
yeah, pixel is nice, I hope they get noticed more. I mean with kawaii out the way they're one of the only ones left standing period now. but as we can see from tsunderia's fanbase, older tight-knit small corpo fans seem to want to just try to keep things going as best as possible talking about their same girls instead of move on to greener, less-dead pastures sometimes. kawaii is definitely gonna be like that I think. but I would ask kawaii fans to at least check on someone like raki.

>>87095330
Brave is probably hoping that one of its branches will hit a home run. Just one big star could make all the investment worthwhile.
>>87094987
Who knows, but fishman has had abnormally good skill/luck with hiring so far. Maybe he saw something.

>>87095445
ask me how I know you only watch Pippa.
Lisa's oldest and closest friend in Phase is Lumi. She is friends and has done trips with Lia, Uruka, Airi, Shiina. Oh, and the whole Tsunderia connection.

I just think what happened is that Lisa was in an overwhelmed time of her life when Tsunderia closed, wasn't even sure if she wanted to continue, got annoyed by the capipalist pests, and then just never thought about audtiioning for Phase. Then Idol went to Lisa and offered her. Everybody wants to be wanted, so she took that because they simply asked first.

>>87096043
I actually barely watch Pippa.
Lumi has done one collab with Lisa and it was extremely awkward.
She has not gone on trips with Lia, Uruka, Airi, and Shiina.
The Tsunderia connection does not matter. None of the ex-tsuns in Phase are close to Lisa.
Pippa is verifiably the Phase girl that is closest to Lisa. This is not up for debate. Both of them acknowledge the other as a close friend. None of the other Phase girls come close to mentioning Lisa as much as Pippa.

>>87096355
the level of newfag is laughable
lisa has literally said her closest and oldest friend in phase is lumi. take it up with her she is the one who said it
lisa literally spent a weekend at anime expo with uruka, lia and airi. she knows shiina very well.

>>87096355
Lisa doesn't view Pippa like how Pippa views Lisa. Lisa has a lot of friends in Phase not named Pippa and is closer to some of them than Pippa.

The fact you are acting like you know Lisa better than Lisa knows herself is an example of why she wanted nothing to do with Phase and Pippa's shitty fanbase. Lisa is her own girl and not everything revolves around the heckin reddit rabbit.

>>87093878
they have some good chuubas
Runie is one of the most high effort and consistent streamers I have seen lately

>>87096589
>closer to some of them than Pippa.
Objectively false.
Post proof or fuck off.

>>87096589
>>87096477
>Lisa is her own girl and not everything revolves around the heckin reddit rabbit.
Where am I saying that her world revolves around Pippa?
Pippa and Lisa are close friends, this is not something that can be argued. Nowhere in my post am I diminishing Lisa as a streamer or person, I am simply saying that of all the Phase girls Lisa is closest to Pippa.
Maybe at some point Lumi was the girl she was closest to but that hasn’t been the case for years.

>>87096691
Unlike you, I watch streams. I have been watching Lisa for 2 years.
You're the ape who didn't even know she went on an AX trip with her Phase friends.

>>87096788
I wasn't even that anon but that AX trip was 2.5 years ago when Tsunderia existed. And she didn't
>go on a trip with
She met up with them. A con that is literally in the same town as them. She was at an airbnb by herself. Unlike Pippa who went to Japan with those same girls twice.

>>87096749
>I am simply saying that of all the Phase girls Lisa is closest to Pippa.
but she is not tho
again, dont be mad at me that lisa that she considers lumi her oldest and closest vtbuing friend and that lisa has a bunch of friends in phase, be made at lisa

>>87096906
>she considers
Post proof of her saying this within the past 1.5 years, post tsunderia, or stop speaking for her.

>>87096893
>Lisa plays at an arcade at a con with Pippa, Sleepy, Uruka, Lia and Tenma for a couple hours
Lisa and Pippa are best friends!!!!
>Lisa spends a weekend at a AX 2022 with Uruka, Lia, Mio, Airi,
they are not friends at all. Lisa doesn't even know them. they were just at a con in the same city obviously.

>>87096906
I would love for you post any recent occurrence of Lisa mentioning Lumi as her closest friend in Phase. Surely you can right since you know her so well

itt the pipnigger can't fathom that chikafuji lisa has friends other than THE pipkin pippa

>>87097034
>one was this year
>the other was almost 3 years ago
Crazy.
Still doesn't prove that Lisa, herself, called Lumi a closer friend than Pippa or is closer to Phase girls than Pippa.

>>87072771
Shiina has mentioned a few times of Fishman doing stupid shit. I don't remember exactly what since I don't care about drama, but it was like making them stream certain things or such.

>>87097122
Samefagging now?

The Lisafag being as unhinged and schizo as usual.

>>87097122
Pipi having a melty because the world doesn't revolve around Pippa is a tale as old as time

>>87063388
I don't think she would fit in vshojo, she's not whorey enough.
And she doesn't seem to have enough motivation to do things alone, so I don't think she'd make it far as an indie either

>>87097244
god i love this post

i dont even think pippa considers lisa in her absolute core group of vtuber friends

>>87097703
I would. Pippa has 2 groups she has loyalty to
Her Phase tribe (as she once called it): Tenma, Lumi, Lia, Uruka
Her out of company core: Sleepy, Kirsche, Lisa, Yuri, Yuko

>>87062138
I don't like coffee but I would absolutely buy an Uruka flavored preworkout

>>87087156
Sure, but it is only from the perspective of someone who's never ever worked in a corporation before. The most standard, known about and definitely abused clauses of working in a corpo (ANY CORPO) are:
>Anything an employee creates for the corporation, using corporate assets or for corporate assets is corporate property.
>Any possessions relinquished to the company becomes corporate property and may only be transferred as the employee's property baring payment in full of its original price.
>Any asset borrowed by the employee from the corporation in order to do their job while working at the company remains corporate property, thus it must be returned to the company at the end of the contract, unless the employee repays in full the original price of the asset.

Corpo work just kinda sucks in general for various reasons, these are some of the least scummy ones but they still suck big donkey dicks. No one likes to talk about them though because it's super boring legal speak. Just like no one likes talking about office politics cause that shit's mentally draining AND boring.

Are they thriving? After getting the boost from fans abandoning niji they haven't grown

>>87098610
money is good and viewership is steady.
gearing up for the 2025 con season with probably 2 more 3d concerts coming.

>>87098753
>steady
I was asking if there is growth. Why for example have any of them managed to reach the level that pippa is at?

>>87098610
Small corpos in 2024
>Phase: healthy
>Prism: shut down
>Kawaii: shut down
>Idol: sold and mass graduations
>Heavenrend: shut down
>myholoTV: shut down
>AmberGlow: shut down
>Kawa: shut down

>>87070288
Pippa isn't the demanding type but she definitely scaled back activities and started up indie for a while when it was bad, like during the forced Minecraft server streams with Sakana playing too

phase connect is 0.7% of the market viwer vtubing share. They all just happen to be /here/tards

>>87098828
Phase are doing about as well as they were when the year started. They are bigger now than they were a year ago in October 2023.
Nobody is ever gonna get as big for them as Pippa, but that is ok you don't need multiple starting QBs. They have depth. Will likely add their 7th playbutton to the companies portfolio by the end of the year. No other small corpo has produced more than 3 and they are reaching #7.

>>87072734
Runie kayfabes hard 24/7

>>87098828
Pippa actually lost a fair number of views, other girls gained them. Pippa used to be 3k - 4k and sometimes as high as 6k when things were great, now 3k is her average upper limit. Her content just isn't as good as it once was and she seems completely out of ideas and generally out of it. The secret of Phase is that Pippa isn't their best talent at all and that she has gotten worse over time while all the other girls got better. It's not even her resting on her laurels, she just kinda lost herself.

>>87099220
Pippa and Gen1 have been doing this for 3 1/2 years of course they are gonna be bored and tired.
Come back to me in 2027 and lets see how creative Runie and Clara are

>>87094791
>Kana used to make that much money
>Now she doesn't
Why

>>87094791
>Everyone tells me that PixelLink is doing good
>lowest profit out of all EN small corpos
PixelGODS... I thought we were doing good

>>87098965
It's literally just Phase, Brave and PixelLink now and I now fuck all about PixelLink so I have no idea how it's run

>>87099396
they are doing well, it just hasn't translated into supas yet.
but it also hasn't translated into supas for any of the Brave Group talents, either. I know they are owned by a rich parent company, but a certain point they are gonna get bored of losing money for the sake of losing money.

>>87079673
Runie would have killed in Holo. She's an amazing streamer.

>>87098965
>vReverie: mass graduations. twice. maybe gearing up for round number 3.

>>87099146
I'm assuming this chart includes JP viewers and obviously phase would be doing worse than dedicated JP corpos

>>87099489
Brave seems like Microsoft and the Xbox, they'll brute force themselves into the market and take a loss until they catch on

>>87099146
>Phase Connect is bigger than NaNaShi
FUCK YEAH PHASEGODS!

>>87099582
If you remove JP phase would be 5 % of the market at best.

>>87099675
i heard this before about Idol, and Aviel suckered Brave to buy his dead company and then all the meaningful talents left it when given the option.

>>87096906
>makes claim
>runs from proving it

>>87099806
Phase started as low 2views and were meant to have 0.001% of the EN market

>>87099675
genuinely shocked Brave didnt buy kawaii. they are all about idol concerts and stuff.

>>87099489
I thought Pixel was doing way better because of their expensive animated trailers
>they are doing well, it just hasn't translated into supas yet
then you're not doing well
its not enough to perform you have to sell
its not enough to open a show you have to close a sale
vtubing is not just a fun activity its also a business
Money is a manifestation of libido and if that libido cannot flow if the river is shallow and only trickles if the cow comes when called but produces no milk then the libido is dry and suffering occurs. This is important

>>87099874
HoloJP also started as low 2views

>>87099997
it would have just been a repeat of what happened with idol. they got suckered into thinking the were buying a property that had marketable talents and could boast they had 1,500,000 subs as a group going forward. only problem was 1,000,000 of those subs opted out and didn't want anything to do with Brave.

kawaii gets sold to Brave and I bet Nene, Shee, Lua, Reina etc all probably opt out. then what are you left with?

>>87099874
they started way early in the en market to be aiming for that low number. Jan 21

>>87100118
Only Sora

>>87100134
June 2021

>>87081825
last year's Uruka blanket came reasonably quick for what it's worth

>>87100301
Technically he's right. Phase formed their company in January prepped for 6 months and debued Gen1 in June

>>87099806
Last time I've checked that site, it only counted like 22 phase livers, not even kaching-up showed up there.

>>87099675
quite frankly I just don't think any of the Brave subsidiaries will ever make money.
You can count the amount of small corpo vtubers who have earned $100,000+ in superchats on one hand (Pippa, Nene, Miori, Tenma, Lia) and only one of them has hit it big big (Pippa).

>>87100464
But Brave's JP subsidiaries have made money
You mean their EN ones
Yeah that's a game of hot potato. They want to pass the buck to some other company that doesn't know any better then get out

>>87094791
Lottie would be at 200k if you counted Streamlabs

>>87100423
they count the one that are streaming for that period of time.

>>87100586
they all get streamlabs to some degree, anon. you can't say "count lottie's streamlabs!" and then ignore everyone else's streamlabs.
as it is, superchats is a show of real health because those who give superchats are more casual viewers and not the groomer whalers who are so invested that they have to make sure YT doesn't get their cut.

>>87100790
but Lottie gets 90% of her donos in streamlabs
wait a minute does that mean her fans are infested with turbogroomers

>>87100790
I always remembered the idol girls pushed streamlabs hard so YT wouldn't get a cut

>>87100904
phase does this too with their streamlabs-only-donothons

>>87100904
The Jew corpo being Jews?

>>87100853
There are 3 tiers of the small corpo money
>1. superchats. common and easy. anybody can do it and it encourages others to do it too and hooks in new donators.
>2. streamlabs. takes extra effort. you don't get the big red flex on stream, but she knows you are giving money off to the side of stream and she will remember that and reward it.
>3. direct paypal.
if your streamlabs is higher than your supas, you should be raising your eyebrows that there is stuff happening in a secret discord you don't know about.

>>87094791
>the company that survived is the one that has like 10 girls who draw money
money is more important than subs and views. never forget that.

in 2024, kawaii actually gained their most subs and viewership to date, yet they are gonig out of business. subs and viewers dont necessarily pay the bills. a high viewership is meaningless if the streamer can't convince the viewer to part with his money.

>>87101062
>3. direct paypal.
I know this one. Fishman fired Yuri over it

>>87102044
yuri was fired for nda breaking

>>87073888
Wait... Iori makes money? Wild unironically

>>87072667
but Pippa and Lia are extroverts tho
proof is in the cons

>>87094791
kawaii would still be alive if they had any of the phase girls besides pippa in their ranks.
adding a second girl who is good at making supas is invaluable to a small agency.
look at some of those other small agency numbers. it would take v4m 7-years to get a girl to $100k in supas? that is no good even if brave does nothing but pour equity into their collection of small corpos that make little money.

>>87103634
$30,000 per year in superchats for a chuuba is good in a small corpo.
in order for a small corpo to really make it and be sustainable, you probably need at least 4 vtubers who can make $30,000 per year in supas.
Phase girls who average more than $30k per year in supas
>Pippa, Tenma, Lia, Airi, Shiina, Dizzy, Jelly, Runie, Clara, Eimi, Lumi*
Phase have 11.
Idol has 1 with Roca
kawaii had 1 with Nene
tsunderia had 1 with Mio
Prism had 0
v4m has 0.
PixelLink has 0.
globie has 0.
vrev has 0.

making $10k a year in supas for your corpo is fine if you are supposed to be like the 20th girl on the roster. but if you are not making that much and they are counting on you to be a top 5 talent, the company will not be that healthy and it will run out of money at some point.

>>87097145
>but it was like making them stream certain things or such.
early Phase felt like sad Hololive with a gun to the talents' heads. The first time I watched a PC stream was Uruka playing Minecraft with Pippa, Tenma, Lia, and Sakana. Sakana did most of the talking, and none of those girls played MC again after those compulsory streams stopped (except Pippa touring the /vt/ server). It wasn't exactly a good time for anyone.

>>87099331
Looking at vstats, Pippa's average ccv was 2k+ for most of last year, and started rising towards the end of last year, but started dropping middle of this year, giving back most or all of the rise.
Tenma's started rising at about the same time and also gave back a bit of ground, but is still much higher than previously, sitting at just under 1k average ccv.
Uruka's also started rising at the same time, but although her growth has moderated, she's still growing. She's hit over 1k average ccv the last two months.
So gen 1 is still going strong, although they're not growing like they were half to 1 year ago.
>>87099806
If you check last month's data, it looks like they have about 25% of the non-Holo EN corpos. Of course, that's a pretty small segment given Holo's EN dominance.

>>87105208
Uruka spams shorts streams. Nobody takes her seriously tbf.

>>87105208
I am talking about creatively, anon. newer girls in a company are always gonna be more excited and creative than those who have been doing it for 3 1/2 years. they have not yet been worn down by the corpo grind and playign the same character for that long

>>87098965
The funniest thing about all this is back in the day, most people were predicting Phase would implode first

>>87098610
Phase was never going to pick up many Nijisisters. Wrong type of content, wrong side of the political aisle.

>>87105636
this.
the people who picked up the niji audience was (shocker you will never believe it): dokibird and mint.

>>87094791
those Brave numbers are grim why are people pretending like they are some kind of juggernaught?
they can buy all the dead subs and bots you want, but dead subs don't make supas.