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8611790 No.8611790 [Reply] [Original]

This isn't Japan this shit is going to devolve into full-on gang warfare. money is on the line nigga

>The Shark already said she doesn't want to be called senpai

>> No.8613354,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>8612403
Not gonna happen. If it did it'd be a bloody curbstomp. Council can't even deal w/ youtube and get their shit together. Fucking IRyS could solo them.

>> No.8614394,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>8613692
100% schizo fanfic. Nice roleplay tho. 100% nothing fucking happens and you faggots continue seething from the sidelines.

>> No.8611864

>first the troon
>now this
EN was a mistake

>> No.8611875
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8611875

The shark is going to get pegged by Shion, it's all that matters

>> No.8611924

Calli is white so shes strapped, wont even break a sweat

>> No.8612403

>>8611790
>HoloEN Civil War
shit when does it start?

>> No.8613239

I think from the beginning of time they said that they don't want to be called senpai because for them it is more like the same generation, only that more people are added, to a certain extent it is understandable because it is as if they add characters to a story than to end ends up being a link between all of them.

>> No.8613332

>>8611790
It bothers me how they get their heights wrong. Calli is supposed to be the tallest next to Kiara, Nia is supposed to be average height, and Ame is slightly taller than Gura

>> No.8613354

>>8611790
Didn't watch vtubers besides my oshi for a few months. What the fuck did I miss

>> No.8613376

>>8612403
It already started

>> No.8613436

>>8613376
Why can't they get along fine? NijiEN and their first and second wave are all friendly with each other, collab together and are supportive of each other.

>> No.8613449

>>8613239
If they dont want to be called senpai then dont fucking introduce yourself as a senpai for fuck sake

>> No.8613515

>>8611790
HoloMyth will mog the Council and leave Omegatroon's legs in concrete blocks at the bottom of the ocean.

>> No.8613616

>>8612403
So here's my take :
Manager is going to plan a collab between gen 1 and gen 2. It was really fun stream as people said, but Kiara being kiara will be sassy about it like she's gonna make a joke about their personality/design.

Truth to be told, the part of friendly and care for each gen is just a gimmick. No one is actually cares about the new gen, all they care is either save themself from gen 2 popularity or let gen1 fans to always watch their stream

>> No.8613680

>>8611790
>>The Shark's mamager already said she doesn't want Gura to be called senpai
fixed

>> No.8613688

>>8613436
Coworkers.
That's pretty much their view on Gen2. Coworkers doesnt have to get along fine as long as the job is finished.

>> No.8613692

>>8613436
Because calli and ina is the only two that has confident on their fanbase. As 5% as she is, calli actually love and believe on her fanbase unlike the other 3 who are insecures with their income since EN basically just introduced 5 heavy SC hitter at once. Sana will topple Kiara with the saviorfags but actually being entertaining and not a pettyfag, Kronii will sucks her fans dry with her sex of a voice, Fauna is an asmr streamer so you know the game, Mumei will get aka by just being there like ayame, and rrats with get sea of akas on every singing stream

>> No.8613742

>>8611790
They'll lose.
Gen2 is way better.

>> No.8613816

>>8613616
Kiara has been getting based, lately.

>> No.8614017

I can not stress enough how much of a mistake holoEN was, after haachama so easily mugged them last stream I was assured how big of a joke GEN2 is, and how bigger of a joke GEN1 was

>> No.8614394

I am almost 100% positive the ttrpg stream was pre recorded solely based on the slips of the tongue Gura made.

>> No.8616704

>>8614394
>slips of the tongue Gura made
what you mean?

>> No.8616868

>>8613239
Actually they said that cover doesn't want it to be 2 seperate gens, emphasis on Cover.
Thank god Irys wasn't a tactless bitch and called them senpais properly, if it wasn't for her we might have actually gotten the cringe of council pretending they are equals to myth

>> No.8616953

>>8613616
Kiara stayed up till 7 am to take care of a Councilmens (probably Mumei) menhara breakdown after debut (probably cause she got doxed)

>> No.8617118

I wonder if JPfags were/are like this when a new JPbranch is released.

>> No.8617181

>>8616953
She touched on the "We didn't get to choose our initial avatars or had inputs on it" which heavily implied Sana did talk to them. It should have been expected though because everyone who comes in pretty much knows how fucking racist the holofafs are.

>> No.8617327

>>8613692
NTA but that puts things to perspective. During the "TTRPG" stream today, I felt a little enmity from Gen 1 towards Gen 2.

>> No.8617480

>>8617327
It was only Kiara, literally no one else gave a damn.

>> No.8617482

>>8613742
Both are shit. HoloID is better at being HoloEN than actual HoloEN.

>> No.8617519

>>8616868
Nah it was just the woke producer for EN. He even admitted to it in the interview.

>> No.8617546

>>8611790
I would fucking hope so. Trying to push the entire "big family" narrative can be ok to an extent, makes things comfy, but imagine if different holo gens were often in competiotion one with another. Nothing too harsh, light hearted stuff and without taking cross-gen collabs away, but i feel the lacking of a sense of rivalry to spice things up.

>> No.8617558

>>8613680
Wait so Jenma is Gura's mom!!???

>> No.8617574 [DELETED] 

Being called senpai by someone ~10+ years your senior would be pretty uncomfortable.

>> No.8617621

>>8617327
She thought the lore was stupid, which it is.

>> No.8617635

>>8617574
JPs do it all the time.

>> No.8617656

>>8617574
But senpai-kouhai relations aren't dictated by age, rather by seniority in the team. Even regular JP businesses are like that.

>> No.8617681

>>8617519
That retard needs to fuck off.
>>8617480
Calli burst into laughter and gave her a round of applause, as if she was expecting it.

>> No.8617712

>>8617656
Might feels a little awkward though, it's english after all

>> No.8617826

>>8617712
>Might feels a little awkward though, it's english after all
half of them speak Japanese and they all already use honorifics, say the meme Japanese words, and work for a Japanese company. They better get used to it

>> No.8617861

I want to see EN Gen 1 and Gen 2 legitimacy fight on stream, that'll be entertaining.

>> No.8617892

>>8617574
This happens a lot in JP and they're doing fine

>> No.8619330

>>8617480
Kiara was right the gen2 lore is cringe af

>> No.8619453

>>8613692
Nice schizo fanfic. 100% nothing fucking happens and you faggots are left seething in the sidelines.

>> No.8619467

Any EN member referring to another EN member as senpai makes my skin crawl.

>> No.8620161

I think long term HoloCouncil is gonna collapse.
And its gonna be the managers fault.

>> No.8620433

>>8611875
I've never watched a bit of her content meanwhile I find out she's breeding idol after idol.

>> No.8620560

>>8611790
>>The Shark already said she doesn't want to be called senpai
That's because she was told to say that..... Sana literally said in stream that she's not supposed to say senpai.

>> No.8622615

Westerners do not know how to cooperate with each other, they can only step on each other's toes and undermine each other. Of course EN1 will hate the other EN gens, they don't have the culture of respect like Japan does.

>> No.8622897

>>8622615
this is your brain on anime

>> No.8623153

>>8620161
It will be fine, it's just the lore will eventually evaporate away. By the time they get their alt costumes and basically just become a student council.

>> No.8623159

>>8620560
Why is EN management so determined to make everyone hate them?

>> No.8623263

None of them are Japanese.
Calling each other senpai would be a cringy weeaboo affectation.

>> No.8623277

>>8617118
Nope. At worst you'd have a few rare cases in Nijisanji (meiro) and even that wasn't the norm. What Kiara is doing here is inexcusable.

>> No.8623279

>>8620161
It's the one thing we all saw coming, for once.

>> No.8623290

>>8623263
>streaming as a 2D anime girl idol
>saying senpai is crossing the line

>> No.8623313

>>8622615
You will never be Japanese

>> No.8623319

>>8613436
their numbers doesn't justify being money-hungry whores

>> No.8623328

>>8613239
>I think from the beginning of time they said that they don't want to be called senpai
They're not operating within the sphere of being Japanese. It doesn't make to call people "senpai" unless they adjust for when they're meeting with actual japanese people. It's not hard to understand. Or do you still think you're watching dubbed anime?

>> No.8623516

>>8622615
Explain NijiEN then
that's right chessm8

>> No.8623582

>>8623516
finana and rosemi are already ostracized

>> No.8623656

>>8623328
I dont think they call people senpai in dub, they probably localize it with another word right? Are you lost?

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>>8611790
>The Shark already said she doesn't want to be called senpai
what's her malfunction?

>> No.8623707

>>8613354
Nothing, actually.

>> No.8623771

>>8623263
They are streaming as anime girls, they long jumped that line like it was an Olympics competition.

>> No.8623792

>>8623277
It's friendly bantz and there is zero drama. Please don't skip your meds like this again, we are all really worried about you.

>> No.8623802

>>8623159
The might be califaggots trying to usurp eastern customs like they do with anime.

>> No.8623840

>>8617519
I can understand not wanting to create a hierarchy by avoiding giving seniority to previous generations, but then why create a backstory where the new generation completely powercreeps the old?
I mean, what is a council but a group of authority figures making judgements that everyone else has to abide by? You can talk about not calling people senpai/kouhai but if you omit that then what's supposed to be the kayfabe interaction between the groups in this setup?

>> No.8623948

>>8623802
>usurp
the word is subvert

>> No.8623978

>>8611790
Good, senpai is not an English word

>> No.8623982

>>8623702
because it feels weird, getting respect for just joining company earlier. in the west respect is earned not gifted.

>> No.8624025

>>8611790
From the makeshift gartic stream, it came across that they do like ENCouncil. OmegaAlpha was the only one they seemed "eh" about.

>> No.8624038

>>8611790
ID feel the same way about the seniority culture, Risu hates being called senpai and to be honest outside of Japan it seems pretty weird and artificial.

>> No.8624067

>>8623702
She's the baby, gotta love her.

>> No.8624360

>>8624025
Is that the manager I wasnt entirely sure what was going on with that

>> No.8624665
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>>8623153
Nah see I get the vibe that the guy in charge of it all is very proud of his super special lore.
And as it starts to get ignored he'll get salty and start demanding the girls get back into character.
There'll be arguments behind the scenes. Tensions will rise.
Eventually it'll come out on stream. Some collab lore event bullshit none of them want to do. One of them will throw a total bitchfit and call out the manager for the cunt he is and quit right there.
The drama will be exquisite. Cover will have to swoop in and clean house in regards to its English branch.

>> No.8624728

>>8623840
Because this is how Americans write.
Look at all the "sequels" and "reboots" they do these days. The old must be debased it must be mocked and replaced with the new.

>> No.8624740

>>8624665
I truly pray this comes to fruition, from the bottom of my heart.

>> No.8624781

>>8624665
Has lore ever mattered one bit in the context of vtubing?

>> No.8624846

>>8623702
Why would English speakers refer to each other as senpai and kohai

>> No.8624906
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>>8624781
Not terribly.
The purpose of the characters is as a way to hide actual identities and deflect questions they don't want to answer.
Like how Korone shoots down all the guys who keep proposing to her by pointing out that she is a dog.
How much any individual vtuber sticks to the character is up to them. Some like Kson don't have a character at all.

That's why HoloCouncil stands out. They've got buckets of lore. They're positively drowning in it.

>> No.8625118
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8625118

>>8624846
they're Japanese idols

You WILL wear the skirt
You WILL sing in Japanese
You WILL call each other honorifics
You WILL appeal to your fans
You WILL go to Japan and put on 3D concerts
and you will be happy

>> No.8625150

I find it profoundly unenjoyable when a new talent has to introduce the lore, but i suppose it's a necessary starting bit to avoid future misconceptions. At the end of the day, it doesn't influence the overall enjoyment much and i don't hold a grudge against it.

>> No.8625212

This is holoEN.
EN.
If you want to experience bug "culture", go watch holoJP.
These girls aren't and never will be japanese.
Same with you.

>> No.8625267

>>8623159
The producers self-insert OC should tell you everything, the talent managers for EN1 seem decent at least

>> No.8625406

>>8625212
>this is your average EN nigger

>> No.8625441

>>8617621
its way better lore than a mythical bird restaurateur with two goddamn hats. jesus christ orange woman has no self awareness

>> No.8625464

>>8622615
> Culture of respect

"Please let me be a useful stepping stool for you boss, I would be so honoured"

>> No.8625484

>>8624665
But would Myth be fine?

>> No.8625584

>>8622615
>i watched anime for 30 years so i know how a entire country operates

>> No.8625613

>>8625212
"Yes I do watch another culture product and enjoy it but it needs to be more western, I'm sure that'll make it better" kys retard

>> No.8625649

>>8625613
You will never be Japanese

>> No.8625672

>>8625118
god hear you my nigga

>> No.8625750

>>8617118
Absolutely, but you never see anyone give a shit here because they're EOPs and think only holoEN get shit

>> No.8625771

>>8625649
But you will still be a faggot.

>> No.8625835

>>8625484
I imagine Cover wouldn't want to damage its premier English language product.
So they'll probably make efforts to keep them in their stable.

>> No.8625848

>>8625771
Truth hurts that you ain't Japanese

>> No.8625873

>>8624360
It's supposed to be A-chan for EN but they completely missed what makes A-chan work.

>> No.8625909
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8625909

HoloCouncil? More like, Council these nuts, nigga.

>> No.8626040

>>8622615
>Culture of respect
You don't know what you're talking about. The nips are total assholes to each other in the most indirect ways possible. They off themselves for a reason.

>> No.8626042

I just want the chuuni shit to end

>> No.8626113

>>8617519
>in the interview.
What interview?

>> No.8626182

>>8625441
one is at least whimsical and fitting for a vtuber, the other is cringe shit that takes itself too seriously. the sooner it dies out the better.

>> No.8626219

>>8613692
>Mumei will get aka by just being there like ayame
This is the only thing I don't want to see, ESLchama.

>> No.8626241

>>8625464
People overblow how bad jap society is.
It's basically just military-lite. You listen to superiors and do what you're told because it makes life function smoother rather than having interns talk back about stupid shit constantly.
If you clearly know more on the technical aspects they'll listen to you but you need to not being a giant cunt asshole when you present your viewpoint.

The west can pretend they're better but the moment you stand out in front of your manager in the west he'll immediately take credit and kick you down too. People bitch constantly here about people going over their head or Karen's crying to managers.

>> No.8626289

>>8617480
Kiara has no problem with Gen 2 themselves, it's the stupid lore that she doesn't like. With every other gen, it's just "here's some designs, and here's a description that not even the vtuber will remember after a week". Then you get EN 2, where they're making weird lore videos, they shove it down your throat by having them show it half a dozen times, including in their first collab (where they try and figure out what the fuck their own lore even means) and then, just to top it all off, they decide that EN needs a producer like A-chan, except they're a literal fucking god who ALSO has lore. All of this for some girls who play videogames with an anime avatar.

>> No.8626357

>>8625212
Fuck off newfag. This is a weeb board for weeb culture. No one wants so normie tier wigger shitter like Mori to be the norm for Hololive.
I guarantee management expected her to be able to speak Japanese and were shocked when Ina mogged her in reps.

>> No.8626428

Side note but I thought it was funny hearing Ina be ESL and saying 'council' like 'console'. You could tell Gura was confused af.

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>>8611790
>then
>numbered gens
>simple and effective lore
>jap cartoons speaking jap
>now
>ditched numbered gens for bullshit naming conventions
>autistic lore faggotry
>even the neighbourhood roasties around your area would be idolized for larping as jap cartoons
Bring me back to simpler times...

>> No.8626553

Why is /vt/ so naive? This shit is scripted as fuck.

>> No.8626563

>>8611790
Haachama calls her viewers senpai and doesn't like to be called senpai by others either. Choco calls everyone sama. It's fine if the only loli in hololive wants to roleplay as the baby always.
That said, it should all be up to the talents not management.

>> No.8626653

lore is just stupid as fuck

>> No.8626674

>>8626241
Not saying the west is better, just different ways of structuring society. Just too much culture fetishism from people who get 100% of their opinions on japan from weeb content (although yes, wrong place to shitpost on the topic).

>> No.8626703

>>8626553
What's really scripted is this society

>> No.8626727

>>8626241
>People overblow how bad jap society is.
No they don't.....

>> No.8626783

>>8626727
Modern Japanese have cleaned up quite a bit and younger generations hate all that traditional shit for good reason. It's still around in places but it is ignored and dying in many others.

>> No.8626808

>>8626289
>where they try and figure out what the fuck their own lore even means
I think it's pretty hilarious the management never actually explained anything to gen 2, just to further prove the point this is all just a management vanity project.

>> No.8626813

Ya'll need to start watching regular streamers if weeb culture bothers you this much.

>> No.8626858

Man I already forgot about gen 1 lmao

>> No.8626869

>>8613692
Yes, I do want Kronii to suck me dry

>> No.8627010

>>8623159
That omegafaggots will be the one true final yab. Just watch. Dude seems like a control freak already

>> No.8627095

>>8626289
They should've just had the guy write a shitty webcomic or something instead of trying to shoehorn it into the streams.

>> No.8627097

>>8625118
Amelia Watson can do all of them but the last one

>> No.8627105

>>8624665
Good. Finally EN and their toxic wave of "fans" will be no more

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8627107

>>8626869
me too, I want her to call me a disgusting paypig while I shower her with my hardearned cash

>> No.8627143

>>8625212
t.omegatard

>> No.8627159

>>8619467
Calm down mon frere

>> No.8627177

>>8627010
How long until he starts calling EN2 his wifes, and share fanart shipping EN2/Omega

>> No.8627205

>>8627105
So you want the EN fandom to go back and merge with JP and ID? Not that there isn't cross-over.

>> No.8627226

>>8611790
American bitches are catty, if a girl that is seen as a potential threat to another girl so much as breathes in the direction of her then they want to start ripping each other's hair out.
In a scene where being the most popular entertainer of the bunch leads to being more successful, this shit will not end well. There is no doubt going to be a lot of infighting, especially once first generation takes a hit for not being new enough. Get that popcorn popping fellas.

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>>8626219
>YOU WILL SEND HER AKA ANON!

>> No.8627414

>>8625212
Calm down Omega, your tranny rage us showing. Take your meds.

>> No.8627431

>>8624665
I hope these faggot managers actually read this fucking post because if you are reading it, have the girls drop the fucking act you faggots. I don’t give a shit about your cringe lore, I want to see anime girls plays games for fucks sake.

>> No.8627462

>>8627177
At that time i will go in crusade with my fellow schizo anons to doxx this mf, locate him, mutilate his ass, and send it to cover as message to hire a more decent staff next

>> No.8627480

>>8627254
She has her boyfriend to make money for her

>> No.8627611

>>8625118
From your lips to God's ears

>> No.8627731

>>8627226
The way I see it, EN2 will get more popular than EN1 if they can show themselves as the more cohesive group, where every member have genuine fun and contribute. In EN1 we have the now defuncted amegura, then there's Ina having her own little art-corner, Mori being busy with her singing, and Kiara being Kiara.

Maybe the loreshit is an attempt on that, having something all the girls share, but it's risky and may crash and get forgotten in 2 weeks. I dunno

>> No.8627800

>>8627462
insha'Allah

>> No.8627841 [DELETED] 

>>8627480
Who else from EN is confirmed used goods? I know Ame, Ina, and Mumei are at the top of the list definitely.
Not trying to support any of these loose whores.

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>>8627177
Oh god, he's gonna insert himself into the girls' streams isn't he. Just wait until he starts commenting in chat

>> No.8627860

>>8613515
>>8627414
omega's a troon?

>> No.8628012

>>8627841
What about the opposite? what girls are confirmed pure maidens?
I need to know who deserve my unicorn akas

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>>8627860
The japanese vtube agency that you're familiar with is no more. Cover is going full Sony.

>> No.8628037

>>8627731
It's okay anon. It's goos enough reason for having a collab/ weekly council meeting. We can see real time as their relationship progress from being awkwards to kino. That way they dont need to do a "force" game collab and have a regular collab that dont mess with their stream. I believe in president rrat to carry the collab and their current chemistry already seems better than EN1

>> No.8628125

>>8619467
Any person referring to another as senpai makes me want to nuke japan

>> No.8628186

>>8628020
I'm not buying it, I don't think this is enough evidence to say shes an actual tranny

>> No.8628267

>>8628186
The implication is more than enough for this to be a giant fucking red flag

>> No.8629150

>>8622615
Why are seanigs like this?

>> No.8629799

>>8623328
>Or do you still think you're watching dubbed anime?
No, I'm sorry Anon. I was wrongfully under the impression that Hololive EN could receive a tiny modicum of cultural influence from Japan.

>> No.8630036

>>8626869
Isnt she an actual lesbian?

>> No.8630115

>>8617181
Kiara's fault for begging hololive for black representation

>> No.8630349

>>8622615
>culture of respect
holy shit anon your brain is full of noodles if you think jp workplace etiquette is anything less than retarded.

>> No.8630358

>>8617118
Again this is not Japan the same style of work environment doesn't exist

>> No.8630446

I just want Calliope to have sex on stream for me...

>> No.8630692

SEAnigger containment thread

>> No.8631066

>>8625441
I'd take the fun but stupid minimalist lore over "you have to care because we are the most important shit in the universe" garbage the manager wrote to self-insert into

>> No.8631821

>>8625441
It's not though.

High-spec robot idol from the future, "marine maid," cosplay pirate, dragon that crashed into the hololive building and has to work to pay off her debts.

Lore should be fucking goofy and stupid, not this tryhard crap.

>> No.8632163

>>8624728
I. . .. I hate that you're right.

>> No.8632227

>>8624781
I like it when characters make an effort to maintain immersion, but that immersion doesn't have to be strictly tied to the lore.

>> No.8632271

>>8625441
Less is more, all the girls got the opportunity to expand their own lore that was just a straightforward premise. Ame being the strongest example of doing this.

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>>8626813
Newfag teenager Fuck say otaku culture like an adult. And it's not about that dipshit it's about money the money is about to be divided up there in the not nothing it stage currently but give it a month Gura will be fine she's on top

>> No.8632421

>>8631821
agreed

>> No.8632766

people who pretend it's all fine and dandy are such reddit tourists. The signs are there and certain GEN 1 girls are obviously not happy about Gen 2

One is losing their mind on streams another booked 700 streams on gen 1 debut week when she never does this normally

They know their monthly checks will suddenly become smaller and considering only one of them has a real career outside of Hololive their panic is showing.

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>>8625848
he keked you harder nigger, you only repeat the same shit like a parrot.

>> No.8634637

>>8627841
Either meds or archive reps, quick.

>> No.8635390

>>8617546
>lacking of a sense of rivalry to spice things up
Because that really works in a business driven by performers whose egos are sprinkled with social issues.

>> No.8635603

Can you guys stop making mountains out of molehills?

>> No.8635865

rrats festering in this thread

>> No.8635897

>>8626481
you always know when a movie or game is gonna suck if it's not a numbered sequel, but instead title: subtitle

>> No.8635975

>>8628186
The fact that they chose to address that question is as much of a red flag as you need. It means she/he/it buys into the obsession with pronouns that has taken over the Western left.

>> No.8636009

>>8630036
They all are.

>> No.8636041

>>8623978
That's the beauty of English. All words are English.

>> No.8636423

>>8636041
>EMPIRE INTENSIFIES

>> No.8636603

>>8613692
>calli actually love and believe on her fanbase
Kek, she's doing gfe you dumb cuckbeat. She doesn't suddenly see you as ch*rlie.

>> No.8636917

>>8636603
>Unaware of more than one type of love.
Never going to make it to a functional relationship.

>> No.8638010

>>8623978
Use it often enough and it becomes English, like "du jour". English is a promiscuous whore.

>> No.8638237

>>8611790
I still don't understand what the OP is trying to convey and what the relation between the image and the text is

>> No.8638371

>>8638237
the majority of the posts here are stream of consciousness from schizos, there's nothing to actually understand

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>>8626703
ain't that the truth

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>>8611790
They need to cut the shit and call their EN seniors "senpai", just like they will do to all the JP and ID members, otherwise it will look incredibly disrespectful in collabs.
This is not an IRyS or Gen 5/EN situation where it was only a few weeks in between their debuts, EN1 laid the ground work for them and has been establishing the brand for a whole fucking year before them, show a little bit of respect and appreciation.

>> No.8643406

>>8641421
They've been told by management that they're not allowed to say senpai for some retarded ass reason

>> No.8643894

>>8643406
I think management wants to replace gen 1.
My gut says the gen 1 contracts are a lot more in the talents favour than is generally believed and so EN management want to replace them with a new set of talent who have much shittier contracts that give management a bigger slice of the pie and more control.

>> No.8645200

>>8632766
Which one lost their mind on stream?

>> No.8645706

>>8643406
fucking management on some of that woke bullshit. i just wanna watch some cute girls play vidyagames after a day of waging man.

>> No.8645885

>>8645706
Not woke, just braindead

>> No.8645920

>>8613436
HoloEN has more schizo fans

>> No.8646307

All this shit wouldn't have happened if Coco was around to tard-wrangle the EN management.

>> No.8646356

Are we witnessing the end of HoloEn as we know it?

>> No.8646586

>>8611790
holo en is amerimutt/western leaning. japanese cultural stuff like "senpai" fits niji en. i prefer niji en cause they are more weeby but it depends on your taste.

>> No.8646648

>>8641421
Fauna called all of HoloMyth sempais in her stream with Mumei, as she should.

>> No.8646727

>>8646586
That's bullshit. What member of HoloMyth isn't a massive weeb?

>> No.8646826

>>8646586
incorrect calli literally joined because of yellow fever

>> No.8647017

>>8646307
Coco left because she couldn't tard wrangle management. If she was here it wouldn't be any different.

>> No.8647060

How the fuck have all these rrats spawned out of Kiara joking about EN2's chunni lore?

>> No.8647165

>>8646727
niji en is more weeby like pomus akiba virtual tour stream. its just a fact. they simply speak japanese much more than holo en in their normal streams. their japanese skills also are higher than holo en members on average.

>> No.8647198

>>8643894
why are we so greedy :(
also if anything flooding the market with more product doesn't make the market bigger. It might slightly increase reach, but that won't offset the fact that they have to split the money more ways. It could cause problem down the lines when income just stays lower

>> No.8647224

I cant wait for all the forced collabs, obvious management tweets, and "random" comments as the soul of en1 slowly gets sucked away. Gura could dodge this bullet with her big numbers, but it will still cause retards to bitch about it in her supas, comment section etc.

>> No.8647237

>>8623319
why would you join hololive if not for the money?

>> No.8647302

>>8647237
I mean me personally would join so i could groom my oshi.

>> No.8647305

XD

>> No.8647314

>>8647060
A bunch of people agree that the new lore is chuuni as fuck and think it's cringe and/or find the power creep to be excessive, it's not that complicated. And if management is responsible, management catches the blame.

>> No.8647510

>>8647224
Gura is immune, the others though...

>> No.8647831

>>8647510
I'm actually looking forward to Ina collabing with Sana. Some drawing stream would be awesome.

>> No.8647857

Beyond this board, are people even upset?

>> No.8647932

>>8623319
You could see it completely oppositely though. If its a smaller pie then you need to fight even harder over the slices available to make sure you aren't the one going hungry.

>> No.8648110

>>8611790
>we shouldnt be like japanese, be more american!

lol fucking globohomo cunts. its a matter of time before they get woke and "localise" themselves an americunt way

>> No.8648119

>>8647857
no

>> No.8648156

>>8624846
Because they're a Japanese company for fuck's sake. This isn't vshoujo.

>> No.8648161

>>8647857
Nah, beyond this board literally no one cares. And if they do, they just act like faggots in chat, completely ignored.

>> No.8648211

>>8648161
>Is anyone complaining on the shill reddit boards?
>No?
>then there's no problem!

Fuck off retard. You'll never hear people complaining on official subreddits/discords/etc.

>> No.8648232

>>8648119
I am upset by this manager who has deemed himself “god”. But I guess that shows how deep the Koolaid is for normalfags that this kind of bullshit is ok for them.

>> No.8648276

>>8648211
They are not allowed to complain their or they get downvoted to hell.

>> No.8648368

I don't watch Gura, but that's based.

>> No.8648410

>>8625212
Globalfags are getting uppity again

>> No.8648418

>>8648211
You just proved my point. If people actually cared they would be be complaining on official platforms.
Instead of hiding in this corner of the Internet.

>> No.8648432

>>8648232
You don't even count as a person.

>> No.8648462

>>8648418
They ban you for posting criticism on those boards nigga

>> No.8648609

>>8648232
Gday Kiara, isn't it about time you have another fit on stream?

>> No.8648629

So is anyone in the company actually upset?

It seems like both Myth and Council understand that Council's lore is kinda cringe (not that Myth's was really anything worth mentioning either.) Both have had full member collabs where, as far as I could tell, the group collectively rolled their eyes at Council's tryhard lore.

If anything, EN1/Myth seems like early thirties weaboos and EN2/Council seems like mid-twenties Koreaboos. Different demographics that probably aren't going to be smitten with each other, but surely, decent enough coworkers something would actually have to happen to get them genuinely upset with each other.

Am I missing some large piece of the puzzle here?

>> No.8648668

Which HoloEN is going to be the first to graduate??

>> No.8648760

>>8648668
Hopefully, omegafaggot.

>> No.8648843

>>8648629
Dramafags are desperate for something to gossip over, to the point that friendly banter between generations is the apparent death of the franchise.

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>>8648609
Yeah, This time i will call for a crusade and inquistion against this blasphemer who deems himself “god”. Here is a preview of my new model, now I can expunge these heathens and blasphemers from our world.

>> No.8648915

>>8648760
This. I'm pretty flabbergasted we went from barely visible office workers to full on spotlight stealing bullshit. The worst part is that you're not going to get some "rare chance to see the inner workings of hololive" but more corporate taglines. If this dude streams more than once a month it's clear what his real intentions are and it has nothing to do with protecting the brand

>> No.8649067

>>8611790
Tfw thinking of dropping my gen 1 memberships

>> No.8649085

>>8648873
Good to see the Austrians are back doing what they do best. Maybe this time you can acquire some lebensraum for the rest of the blonde hair blue eye chuubas

>> No.8649123

>>8648915
Yeah, this has nothing to do with drama for me. He just strikes me as someone who is too big for his own britches by the mere fact that he equivocated himself with Jesus Christ with his name alone.

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>>8649085
No, it is time to reunite the Empire, under a Catholic, Habsburg Empire. AEIOU

>> No.8649224

>>8649123
>this has nothing to do drama
>describe the situation as hilariously dramatic as possible
what did anon mean by this

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>>8648629
Keep in mind everyone else's numbers tank when they are streaming at the same time as Gura now divide that up with potentially an extra 3 girls and the fact that it's a pretty niche genre it's not as if they're going to bring in a whole lot of new fans

>> No.8649277

>>8616868
What are you talking about? Cringe is english speakers pretending to be japanese. Always has been.

>> No.8649296

>>8649224
He means that that we should burn this blasphemer at the stake.

>> No.8649388

>>8649217
Based

>> No.8649425

>>8649388
Why cant the real Kiara be this based. Instantly best girl.

>> No.8649443

>>8641421
You are not Japanese nor will you ever be most of Myth isn't Japanese nor will they ever be

>> No.8649471

>>8649277
Thats a pretty reddit take right there. You're on 4chan bud the entire site identity is based on pretending to be Japanese. Hell /vt/ is a spinoff of /jp/

>> No.8649484

>>8649425
German education.

>> No.8649487

>>8622615
lmao go live there and tell me how that goes

>> No.8649586

>>8649067
See this is the reality this right fucking here

>> No.8649617

>>8611864
I warned you

>> No.8649636

>>8648843
So your saying a more saturated market means more money for everybody especially already in a niche genre does that make sense anon

>> No.8649640

>>8649484
To think Europe went from being Based to cringe brings a tear to me eye.

>> No.8649641

>>8611864
Who's the troon?

>> No.8649686

>>8649641
The man who calls him Jesus Christ, Omegafaggot.

>> No.8649772

>>8648156
You think people at Nintendo of america call each other senpai and kohai, you fucking retard?

>> No.8649970

>>8623582
good, fish bitch deserves it.

>> No.8650656

>>8649686
is his roommate a guy? Why is everyone calling him a "him" out of nowhere?

>> No.8650739

>>8650656
I dont fucking care if it is a man or woman. I am merely calling it a dude because I can.

>> No.8651010

>>8611924
Also probably from Texas, so she might unironically have a shotgun

>> No.8651257

>>8611790
>>8650534

>> No.8651688

>>8626783
They used to say the same about americans but look how they are doing now...

>> No.8654215

>>8648609
what streams did she have a fit on?

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