/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Aqua

>>856364
you mean like the character they roleplay?

whichever one is your favorite one, duh

>>856395
this anon has the lowest IQ

>>856395
No IRL. But then the dumbest girl IRL is still going to be pretty dumb in-character too

>people seriously assume miko and luna are dumb because baby
btw the answer is aqua

>>856364
one of these 2

Probably aqua, the way she talks about her real life sounds like she legitimately is mentally ill in a totally non-meme way. She's still good at games, but definitely not the smartest. I know people say Nene often as well, and I agree she gives off the biggest dumb-girl vibe, and she does it confidently which is even more adorable. Bonus round is Gura, I was convinced she was just a drunk at first but watching her more led me to believe she's just dumb as rocks and its the cutest thing

>>856474
What has Aqua done that's particularly stupid though?

>>856474
I thought Aqua was just really shy and autismo?
Gura's math abilities scare me a little bit.

>>856364
lowest IQ: kiara
highest IQ: aqua

No idea, but Botan seems to be the most reasonably intelligent one.

Aqua has the perfect storm of bellow-average IQ, extreme social anxiety and legit autismo, I'd say it's a miracle she manages to survive in society bit sje clearly doesn't, seeing how she can't even talk to a doctor or order at a restaurant

>>856601
I'm pretty impressed with Flare, Moona, and Pekora's minecraft skills, I wonder if that correlates to high IQ

>>856449
Miko maybe but she can be taught. Luna seems to have a decent head on her shoulders.

The IDs are probably the least westernized part of Hololive, so with how actual IQ tests tend to be less representative the further you get from the upper class west (and obviously Japan isn't the west, but in terms of education it's close enough) probably one of them.
In terms of actual intelligence though, it's obviously the onion.

>>856491
>>856508

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUS7lIOqTPw

>>856508
I feel like Gura intentionally blurts out the first thing that comes to her mind just to be funny, I seriously doubt she’s genuinely that retarded, at least I hope considering her age

>>856808
Moona seems functional but not very bright desu. Although maybe it's just the social awkwardness and language gap making her seem that way.

>>856818
Botan's one was really impressive

>>856808
>he fell for the "generic logic puzzles are a tool of white supremacy" meme

>>856474
>>856508
Gura just seems like average IQ with some (or maybe a lot of) ADHD thrown in to muddle things up.

>>856725
It correlates to your standard of high IQ, that's for sure.

>>856890
Where did I say white.

>>856929
If that was supposed to be an insult we're in the same boat

>>856945
educate yourself

>>856818
Ah I see, even Kiara got 2 and she isn't even a native Japanese...

>>856851
>>856899
I don't know, watching her try and figure out what 2x2 trees was really something. It's hard for me to see exactly how self-aware she is being with some if it.

>>856851

Could be brain damage from all of the drinking.

>>856979
I'm aware of the "IQ is White Supremecist" thing and I don't agree, except in the sense that class and race correlate in the US. Doesn't change the fact that I never brought up race myself, or that the idea that the test made by upper class (and class really is the main factor here, to be clear) westerners that upper class westerners consistently do better on MIGHT be biased should probably not be so unthinkable for you.

>>856979
>>857244
The only point of an IQ test is to test whether or not you're retarded.

You just need to score above 100. A score higher than 100 is good but it doesn't tell us much more than you're not retarded.

>>857291
100 is average. retardation begins at 80
which makes every single living person in sub saharan africa ( avg iq of 62 ) literal retards. and this is what SJWs cant cope with.

>>857349
Eh, the IQ test is a diagnostic tool and shouldn't be the only thing you rely on when coming to a conclusion.

>>857244
>or that the idea that the test made by upper class (and class really is the main factor here, to be clear) westerners that upper class westerners consistently do better on MIGHT be biased
but asian do better on iq tests

>>857372
i know. IQ doesnt predict success. you can be 140 einstein but afraid of people or super socially awkward. then even a nigger at mcdonalds will outperform you and be more useful to society.

>>856818
Why does choco move in like 5fps?

Aqua isn't that dumb. You can hear it when she's playing dumb. You can hear her when she's actually serious. You can tell when she's enjoying the conversation. She's shy. Sure. But thag does not make her dumb. It makes her shy.

Luna probably knows more otaku shit than 50% of people here.

What is dumb though is when you 100% believe that what you are saying is fact. Like Pekora and her map. But she's has learned a lot since then.

>>857406
I don't know about worldwide, but Asian-Americans do better on average, yes. Asian-Americans are also the highest earning race in the US. Hence, class being the main factor.

>>857496
amerifats are retards who don't believe in class, which is why their country is falling apart. One of their biggest states is freezing to death without water or electricity

>>856808
Anonchama... the SJW already got you

Lack of sleep can hinder the ability to think. Aqua is a hardcore gamer and often play games 24/24 including off stream so it is understandable that she acts stupid.
Mikoti also lack of sleep but not really serious like Aqua, her kusa came from her unluckiness.
Gura I don't think she is stupid, just her life don't required math and her chat full of trolls make her question the result.

>>857650
Gura is acting stupid.

>>856364
Anyone that says Luna is dumb has never watched any of her clips interacting with other holos or is saying that because >pink baby. She's above average in Hololive.

>>857650
>24/24

24 hours a day? 24 days a week? Anon is the biggest retard.

>>856474
Gura comes off as uneducated and book dumb, than as actually dumb.

>>856725
it certainly speaks about their spatial IQ
Moona seems a bit like a savant, and Pekora is INTJ as fuck

>>856364
The average IQ in Indonesia is 85, so probably one of those ID girls.

Polka is confirmed dumb (though she probably just took a shitty online test)

Nene

>>858928
shitty online test are the ones were you should be easily able to score 140 though

>>856732
Luna is well above the upper third on intelligence of the Holos.

>>857349
Google Flynn effect

>>857406
Asians also value education much more. Interesting...

>>857629
Anonchama...the rightoid denial of the complexity of reality got you

>>859266
>rightoid
return to bunkerchan

Ollie has no brains

>>856818
Who the hell would know who invented the xray

>>859186
anonchama, flynn effect is slowly reversing...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289616300198

>>857496
Highest earning race in the US? Thought it was the jews. Incidentally they also score the highest in IQ

>>859493
It's easy since in my language X-Rays are already called Roentgen Rays.

>>857419
>laughs in newton

>>859603
I think it was indians (from India, sorry for ESL), then asians and jews, then whites, then blacks and latinos.

There's genetic bell curve differences of course, but the list correlates with how important education is for each culture (besides indians maybe)

>>859619
They're also called Roentgen Rays in Japanese, which might be why Aqua didn't know what "X-Rays" are.

>>859210
>>859716
The point of the IQ test is that education (supposedly) doesn't have an effect on it. So theoretically a poor person and a rich person should be able to score equally on it.

The problem is that for ~some odd reason~ the IQ test seems to correlate almost exactly with income and class, so that urban elites score disproportionately high and the poor score low

>>859716
It's generally case that IQ and class correlates. Except for odd cases like Paris Hilton. I knew someone from Iran and her family was full of MDs and her brother was a PhD. She was the least educated with a masters degree. However, keep in mind we tend to get the higher strata of some ethnic groups. It's a lot easier for some poorfag LATAM to come here than a wealthier MENA.

>>857179
Unironically and sadly this could be the case. All that alcohol consumption on a young brain does irreparable damage.

>>861193
IQ test relies heavily on abstraction, it could be the case that the more deep into modern civilization and the higher the class, the more you are specialized towards abstraction. Meanwhile, people less into abstraction and more into environmental perception, like esquimoos, have like 20 different words for different kinds of snow.

>>859493
Did you not learn about Marie Curie in middle school?

>>/jp/33337197

>>861193
The US should have blanket aptitude test for every job, even the most menial of labor. Too many retards work jobs that are beyond their capabilty all because it's an entry level position, and the low level managers don't want someone hired that might actually threaten their $40K/yr assistant manager job at Wendy's. Shitty places hire dimwitted people intentionally because they won't question bad practices or behavior and they're aren't capable of moving up in the business.

>>>>/jp/33337197

>>857959
Check my rrat
Gura is a dropout

nene

>>861591
the usual rrat is gura's family are farmers that live in bumfuck nowhere, so she's probably barely homeschooled

>>861482
That Eskimo language canard is actually false, it's a misunderstanding of how their language works. In Eskimo languages, adjectives and context are applied to the end of the original word as a suffix. For example, instead of saying "heavy sporadic rain", they would say "rainheavysporadic". It's not a different word or concept, it's multiple words being combined. There are about as many root words for snow in Eskimoan languages as in English.

>>861482
That may very well be, which brings us to the root problem that the IQ measured by the test is a result of circumstances and upbringing rather than inherent genetic potential, which upends the whole bell curve argument.

>>861788
Isnt German like that too

have you seen nenechi?
https://files.catbox.moe/5kk0ev.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/tdyluk.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/tun436.mp4

>>861838
https://streamable.com/twnfx6

>>861635
She really doesn't talk about other kids in her past now does she?
Expanding this rrat
>homeschooled until middle school
>introduced to anime and quickly became a web
>cant keep up with peers around high school due to poor home schooling
>drops out

>>861810
even then, every time it's studied on a genetic level (twin studies, adoption studies etc) IQ is one of the psych indicators with the highest genetic correlation.

IQ really measures SOMETHING, and it has a strong as fuck genetic correlation, we just don't know what exactly is it

>>861821
We tend to combine nouns. Our adjectives usually stay out of it.

>>856515
At least antis should admit that Kiara is actually of quite high IQ, and that's why she annoys some people who don't get what she means.
>whilst truly low IQs are
>Noel, Watame, Cali, Amelia, Kanata, Luna, Haato, Aqua, Shion, Subaru and so on
>and as you may have already noticed, IQ is not the decisive factor to be a good Holo idol.

>>856364
Kiara honestly.

>>862718
Kiara is trilingual, definitely not the dumbest holo

>>856364
I feel like Akai Haato has the lowest one currently since she said before that she has low grades during high school as she is focusing more in becoming a hololive idol

>>862615
I could be wrong, but in the case of Haato she def seems to love acting like a retard, rather than actually being one
She actually has some really good English pronounciation when she actually doesn't dumb herself down

>kiara antis are awake

cringe

>>86289
maybe she had low grades in high school because she was attending it in Australia while barely speaking English

>>862925
>really good English pronunciation
It can't be a reliable scale of IQ when she's a teen living in an English speaking country for several years.
The point is
>she doesn't get what alianated her from her relatives (doing screeching streams every single night and why my uncle isn't nice to me?)
>she can't cook properly. You may say it's another acting, but that voice of Luna in that cooking stream sounded like truly she was actually pissed off by some idiot.

>>863035
What do you mean? She is spigin it.

>>859493
American education everyone

>>856818
Not an IQ test, but a knowledge test tho. Not the same thing, IQ is just basically how fast you can recognize patterns.

>>856364
Aqua has clinical, medical, non-meme, real life autism, she cannot live on her own and has no future prospects. She probably would be slightly above average, but as she is now she's "autist-dumb".
Miko isnt dumb, but her mouth defect makes her sound like a cross between a downie and a really big baby, so everything she says will sound dumb even if she's being smart.
Gura lives in deep rural america and her education is garbage as expected. Most likely doesnt any actual future job prospects either, outside of meme videos, vtubing and whatever job her family does.

Nene is bimbo stupid. Her brain has been on autopilot since middleschool and now she experiences genuine mental resistance whenever she has to think. Probably some non-meme ADHD going on too.
30% of the roster is in the same boat as Nene. Most of hololive are attractive irl and probably never had any issue with socialization or gettin by with Cs in highschool copying their homework.
The odd bunch that were considered ugly or weird in highschool have comparatively higher IQ, like Okayu and Marine.

Coco, Kiara and Fubuki are smart. Pekora, Moona and Botan are savant-ish in their respective areas but dont do much else.
Using Watame, A-chan and Subaru, the only actual normal women in hololive, as measuring sticks.

>>856818
This only shows how well they can remember random facts. Don't confuse good memory with intelligence.

>>856818
As much as I think aqua is dumb, choco's tests aren't indicative of intelligence. They're just knowledge based

>>861838
Nenechi is so fucking adorable

>>863544
>Gura lives in deep rural america and her education is garbage as expected.

Why are rurals so dumb?

>>863697
a couple of reasons
-you're ostracized if you aren't like everyone else, so you have to be dumb to not get bullied
-if you're good enough to leave to an urban or suburban area, you gtfo and never come back; no one smart moves to rural areas by choice

Alright, let's play double abject.

Who has the highest street smarts?

>>863544
How do we know Gura lives in rural America. Based on her tics and vocabulary I’ve considered her Canadian. Possibly suburban/rural Canadian

>>863789
>-you're ostracized if you aren't like everyone else, so you have to be dumb to not get bullied
you mean, Gura is a Japanese!?

>>863697
Education=intelligence for the most part. Obviously some people are born with naturally higher IQ, but if you take twins with the exact same intelligence and you have one with the best education and environment, private tutors and an easy, stress free life; and you send the other to some mudbrick jungle school in the middle of the Congo, the first one is going to come out better.
Rural america, inner city and isolated communities have worse education because they have less resources, simple as.

>>863926

High IQ (110-130+) : Botan, Ina, Kanata, Marine, Choco, Pekora, Okayu, Amelia, Suisei, Lamy, Fubuki, Flare, Anya,

Average IQ (101-109) : Korone, Shion, Watame, Coco, Sora, Aki, Mio, Ayame, Matsuri, Nene, Risu, Ollie

Lowest IQ(80-100) : Gura, Kiara, Polka, Aqua, Rushia, Haato, Miko

>>856364
Nene kinda
https://youtu.be/1Kiifkbn5IE

>>864072
Head empty

>>864037
let's be fair
>High IQ (110-130+) : Coco, Kiara, Ina, Pekora, Ollie, Moona, Risu
>Average IQ (101-109) : Korone, Okayu, Shion, Suisei, Sora, Matsuri, Gura, Mori, Botan, Marine
>Lowest IQ(80-100) : Watame, Polka, Noel, Nene, Polka, Aqua, Rushia, Haato, Miko, Amelia

>>858928
I doubt she was being honest.

>>861591
The only one I know for a fact to be a dropout is in holoen but it isn’t gura.

>>856364
pic unrelated right anon, Miko is an elite

>>864218
>average
>101-109
That isn’t how IQ works. Although I suppose you could be working from the knowledge that Asians average closer to 105, with a much smaller standard deviation, could make your statement seem reasonable.
But then you go including non-Asian members of HoloEn on that same scaling and it breaks down again.

>>863947
To me she sounds like someone from the northeastern U.S., probably New Hampshire or Vermont, near the Canadian border. She doesn’t necessarily still live there, she could have moved and kept the accent and regional slang.

>>863991
>Education=intelligence
No, intelligence leads to education. Look at the Minnesota Transracial Adoption study for an example of environment not being significant. Saying "education = intelligence" is like saying "playing basketball = height". In reality, taller people gravitate towards basketball because it's easier for them than short people; in the same way, people who are born with high intelligence gravitate towards academia because they're better at it than naturally dull people.

>>857244
>upper class westerners consistently do better on MIGHT be biased should probably not be so unthinkable for you.

Crazy. Almost as though people with high IQs rise in station and surround themselves/procreate with people of similar IQ.

But nah, you're probably correct. IQ tests are just bunk designed to fellate rich people

>>864706
The minnesota study is about whether adopted kids do better/worse than kids that have both biological parents, not about whether or not there's a correlation between city-rural or wealthy-poor children in IQ tests.
There is, by the by. Children intelligence and household wealth are related. Fairly sure a kid from the appalachians has lower iq than a kid from manhattan purely because of their environment.

Getting an education early on improves your IQ. Garbage schools or no education at all makes you objectively, measurably dumber.
A smart kid that has the ability to go to top schools will be better than the same smart kid stuck in the community college with airport metal detectors in the front door.

>>863926
>street smarts
>Japan
Being street smart literally refers to knowing how to not get shot if you live in the projects or inner city. Doubt it really applies to nips living in the most first world country on earth.

>>864218
Lol, you just wanted to move Kiara into the top tier.
>she speaks three languages!
She also dropped out of school and encouraged her retarded viewers to do the same.

>>856601
botan did score the highest on Choco's quiz

>>865068
Is the United States of America not a first world country?

>>863926
Whichever of the ID's are poor, followed by Amelia.

>>865128
Of course not.

>>865112
She has a point. Not everyone is meant for higher schooling. Some people are fine doing blue collar jobs instead of white collar jobs though in our modern times society has a huge disgust with blue collar jobs.

Not to mention "educational institutes" have become nothing but political propaganda.

>>863544
I think Aqua has avoidant personality disorder rather than actual autism.

>>865128
Not if you live in Detroit, Atlanta, Compton, anywhere in Florida, Chicago, etc.

>>865245
The classic schizoid-avoidant + autism spectrum package.

>>865199
Correct, and granted, if you live somewhere in Europe that actually has feasible vocational schools to land you one of those jobs, it would be reasonable advice. The problem is that she's talking to mostly Americans where not having a university degree basically renders you unemployable even for positions that shouldn't need it.
You could still work in Food Service so at least she's on theme.

>>861821
Lots of languages work that way.

>>865268
The push toward spectrums is such an annoyance.

>>865409
To classify people, sure. Its more accurate and realistic from a medical standpoint though. CWC and my neighbor the screaming manchild both have autism and they're very different.

>>856712
How did she get into Hololive in the first place?

>>864218
> Watame in the low IQ range

>>865128
The ironic answer is no, but in reality, of course it is.

People overestimate the intelligence necessary to be multi-lingual. If you speak German or English, learning the other it's relatively easy and you learn English in basically all European schools. It's not like Japan where English education is a joke either. Most europoors can speak at least conversational English if not better.

I thought Aqua was just playing up her character, but then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzgz2CLshBY
In my entire life as a fucking bumbling autist I can think of few situations that came as close as to that, holy shit.
I still have reservations about Gura though, she's not even that good at hiding her powerlevel.

>>862898
Nah. High school is the point the material requires enough actual work that intelligent kids who simply stop giving a shit will get low grades.

Getting low scores in elementary school though, now that's a red flag.

>>865434
Accurate perhaps, but it lacks any precision that would make it useful as a diagnostic or descriptive tool.
It is like listing “old age” as a cause of death. We don’t do that anymore because it doesn’t tell you anything and being old is not the actual thing that kills you.

>>865734
>high school material
>requiring effort for intelligent kids
What country are you from?

>>865112
I mean, if Haato says something stupid (again), Girls like Luna may just say "You better shut your mouth up", but that doesn't necessarily mean she lacks compassion or sympathy. She just says what she thought without a second thought.
But when it come to girls like Coco or Kiara, they may say things like "wtf~ Haato sempai!!" in an somewhat overreacting way which some people find condescending.
Again, being of high IQ doesn't necessarily promise you to become the best idol. It all depends on your true heart. And that's what our (my) princess is always giving to (only) me.

>>856808
You are retarded.

>>856364
I think Gura is the dumbest although Aqua is a close second.

>>865112
>She also dropped out of school and encouraged her retarded viewers to do the same.
Dropping out of school is good advice for most people.

>>866237
For a few who already know what they want to do then sure. Most teens aren't those people.

>>865868
It's not about ability, it's about willingness. High school material requires you to at least study somewhat to get good grades.

If you think it's boring/useless and would rather spend your time playing League all night, you'll get shit grades, high IQ or not.

>>862615
Noel and Aqua are the only retards you actually named here. Kanata is debatable but she seems more just awkward than anything else.

>>856474
Gura is just playing dumb for fun, sometimes she does makes mistakes but her chat just likes to go "dumb shark xDDDDD" like a bunch of retards everytime regardless.

>>863544
>most of hololive are attractive irl

>>857125
She was taking the piss at the 2x2 because chat was going hysterically autistic

>>863947
she's from Michigan, as per her roomate's facebook page.

>>856808
Quintessential /pol/JW

>>865451
Her power levels are over 9000

>>856395
Anon, they're women, they arent playing a role

>>866539
>he doesnt know

>>865451
Gen 1 and 2's hiring standards were much lower. Contracts as well were much more lenient. That's why they were able to hire Haachama and Shion who were underage. And why Ayame/Mel only have to stream once a month. It's also why most of them were near-literal nobodies. Aqua was actually one of the bigger catches back in the day.

>>861838
Nene isn't dumb. Dumb people are bland and Nene is creative and witty, the same goes for Aqua. They're both just moe.

>>865128
Not since the 80's

>>862615
Haachama exists outside of the bell curve and DSM, definitely not retarded though

>>867068
What happened in the 80s that made it that way?

>>866982
Nene is actually dumb. She's got excellent charisma and has idol experience but she is an absolute airhead to the extent it causes negative repercussions in the real life of herself and her friends/coworkers. Things like that make it clear she is not just pretending to be dumb as part of her character.

>>867115
George Bush happened

>>867176
What exactly did he do other than be a one term president?

>>862615
>Thinks Chaamers is low IQ
Get filtered.

>>862898
Filtered and age-pilled. How well you do in school has no translation to how well you do outside of it. Graduated hs/college before you make this assumption.

>>867176
>>867115
It's not Bush its Reagan.

>>867187
He was Reagan's VP

>>856364

You only want her dumb so you can fap to a bimbo.

>>867479

>>865128
>Is the United States of America not a first world country?
The point wasn't that it's not a first world country but rather that in Japan, no matter where you live, the crime rate doesn't come close to the shittier parts of the states, so the concept of being "street smart" doesn't really apply.

>>867479
Haachama is the most intelligent out of all of them
The strongest too

>>863947
I've noticed very obvious influence of a New England accent in Gura. She may not have lived there her entire life but she definitely lived there long enough to pick up some of the local speech mannerisms, habits, and vocabulary. Also it would make sense since her character is Atlantean and guess which region in the continental US juts out the most into the Atlantic ocean...

>>856364
Pekora...

>>856383
This. Aqua tried to block her age in Ringfit using an image and failed horribly. Then immediately tried to do the same thing for weight and freaked out when everyone found out.

>>867619
Hasn't this happened to every girl though, Rushia was infamous for it.

>>867619
Wait no that was Rushia. Aqua did it with wiifit. Rushia might be dumber than Aqua but there's fierce competition.

>>867637
Nah, Rushia is a genius at reading and playing her fans. Her supacha numbers tell everything.

>>865128
Not anymore. I moved to the Philippines because there is less crime and corruption.

>>865451
She was very successful on NND. If she was just walking in from an interview on the street it would be hard to see how good she is.

>>867115
Completely unchecked mass immigration. In 1980 Hispanics made up 6% of the population and were mostly "White Hispanics". Now they are 30%.

>>867995
>muttoids blaming their problems on everyone else but themselves

>>866558
Michigan's honorary Canada, desu.

>>867995
>dude lmao immigrants made me divest all public funding from infrastructure and deregulate capital

found the actual lowest iq

>>867995
You know mass immigration started way before the 80s. You can thank that libtard president LBJ for putting in the 1965 "immigration act".

>>868190
Yes. Specifically 1940s immigrants if you know what I mean.

Does no one know what IQ is anymore? Aqua actually took an IQ test and she's demonstrably one of the highest IQ in hololive. Pekora is most likely one of the other high IQ members. IQ is a measure of abstract pattern matching ability, it has nothing to do with memory, common sense, or apparent linguistic ability. Aqua failing to function like a normal person has nothing to do with her IQ. The rate at which she naturally learns to play a game is however influenced by her IQ.

>>867995
Bullshit distraction. Our wages have been stagnant since the 70s while productivity has increased. We're being stolen from.
Meanwhile none of our political cronies have any belief in public good. No investment in Healthcare, infrastructure, education, you're on your own. It certainly wasn't Guatemalans who did that. Fake country, completely dysfunctional government and society. I wish all my American friends a speedy exit.

>>868275
Not to nearly the same extent. There were still some standards.

>>868289
Can I come to your country and be your boywife so I can get out of this shithole anon

>>868283
>>868190
They're not even immigrants in the word since none of them assimilate into American culture. I guarantee you if go into a hispanic's house in the US that you'll more than likely not find a US flag, but you'll find the Mexican flag or whatever equivalent in their home. Also, a picture of Jesus ironically since Jesus and God would be against immigration.

>>868301
It greatly opened the door and if there is anything humans should ever know is to never give an inch to evil.

>>867149
Holy fuck if even half of this is true I need to watch her stuff.

>>868365
>I guarantee you if go into a hispanic's house in the US that you'll more than likely not find a US flag, but you'll find the Mexican flag or whatever equivalent in their home.
I dont have an american flag in my home either

>since Jesus and God would be against immigration.
Jesus was both an immigrant and an anchor baby (from heaven)

>>868365
American culture is rampant consumerism, california faggotry, crippling debt and niggers. They're american as americans get.

>>865128
You have places like Massachusetts, New York, Minessota, Oregon, Washington Vermont, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Michigan (minus Detroit), etc.

Then you have the dogshits rednecks of the south like Alabama, Misissipi and Georgia.

>>863947
she already said she lived on rural area as a child, from what we know of her roomate she lived there until her teens, those were her formative years its why she is so bad at reading stuff

>>865128
A UN investigator did a survey of the US and said that the US (the South in particular) is basically on par with African Third World countries as far as infrastructure goes. The report said he was repulsed because he never imagined he would see the kind of things he saw in a First World country.

>>868866
>UN
>the same UN that put Saudi Arabia on the women's rights commission

>>857496
Worldwide, China, Taiwan (lol), Hong Kong, Japan, Korea often score highest in average IQ in their countries.
The Ashkenazi Jew is of course right at the top in IQ (and they pay for it with genetic disorders and visio-spatial problems), but noone teaches you that

>>868866
African 3rd Worlder here. Dude has either never left his desk or is a retard of untold proportions. Say what you guys want about America or Russia or Greece or any relative "shitholes", but none of those places, in reality, comes close to the pants-shitting, wrist-slitting misery that is here.

>>868962
This. You have to have a serious peanut brain to take anything the United Nations says without the most minute grain of salt. I don't think they're really anyone to talk about conditions in Africa considering how they did fuck-all during the Rwandan genocide.

>>861193
You've got your cause and effect mixed up. They are the elites *because* they have higher IQs. IQ correlates with lifetime success; they can think faster, hold more information in their head at once, and remember more.

>>869146
Is your boss smarter than you?

>>869146
But we already saw that IQ is directly related to class. If you're born rich then of course you're more likely to have lifetime success.

>>861810
Have you not read any twin studies on the matter?

Environment plays a part up to a point, but then genetics is the ultimate contributor. It's almost like you need a good environment to allow you to reach your full potential, but that your full potential is lower than other peoples'.

Same with height, or attractiveness, I guess.

>>869176
In my case, hell yes. My boss is a math major who wrote some of the algorithms in our software.

>>868866
>taking anything the UN says seriously
That said that’s mostly the fault of neolib/neocon niggers that are obsessed with sending money to foreign countries to build infrastructure instead of building infrastructure in our own fucking country

Gura is dumb in math, spacial awareness (not helped by poor eyesight) and a little bit in reading. However, she excels in musical skills and has a quick wit. She's not flat-out dumb, but is just unbalanced in certain areas.

I can believe she grew up in a rural area, but I don't think her upbringing was associated with farming. She's not known terms that farmer families and their peers would know.

>>869302
ah, yes, because neocons are famously building infrastructure instead of bombing other countries to shit and looting their stuff

>>869202
Yeah, but if you're born rich, it's more likely that your parents have higher IQs, and as a result, you do too. When income/class mobility occurs, high IQ people are more likely to become rich than poorer people, and low IQ people are more likely to become poor than high IQ people.

Also, high IQ people will tend to have families with others of their ilk, for class reasons or otherwise.

>>869176
>implying you can't be of a higher station than your boss by the time you're his age

>>869924
But the fundamental problem is that IQ can be trained for.

hotelconcierge had a good writeup about this, called "the Stanford marshmallow prison experiment", give it a read.

>>868404
It is all true and it isn’t even close to complete.
Nene is great but she is an airhead.

Nene of course

>>870120

>>870000
IQ tests can be trained for*
Doesn't negate the idea of IQ though. They say that SAT scores also correlate with IQ, as does occupation, i.e. Lawyer, CEO, Physicist, Engineer (depending on the engineering discipline), Doctor etc.

ITT People arguing about a statistical construct without using statistics.

>>869146
In that case, then what is /pol/ always screeching about? The jews rule over them because they are smarter and therefore deserve to do so.

>>865159
so treerat, got it.
COME AND BITE MY FEET PLEASE
BBBBBBBBBBBBRBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRBRBRBRBRBRBRRBR

Aqua is an idiot savant. Nene is....yea... Nene is the lowest.

>>868866
Don't ever listen to the UN about anything. I've been all over the US. The worst, backwoods places in the south still can't compare to fucking Brazil and some places in Africa.

>>863659
ok but not knowing the sum of angles in a triangle either means she didn't go to middle school or actually has cognitive problems retaining information

>>870207
Lmao nice try. I used that same argument to troll my roommate once.
Having a higher IQ doesn't necessarily mean you are a good person. It just means you have a more efficient brain.

>>870333
The only time I've ever had to use a square root since middle school was 5 years ago making a bench.
Literally the only one time.

>>864453
n-no! she went to d-detective school...

>>870120
>>870140

This is genuinely impressive stupidity

>>870482
Very much so.
Nene is still great though.

Feel like you'd have to be really gulible or not exactly following what Haato is doing to think she's low IQ
She likes making people think she is, and then catch them off guard in several ways

Doesn't Aqua drool alot? You can hear her slurping sometimes.

>>870120
Hey. Nene is just not street-smart you know. She knows her ABCs and her 123s. She knows all the episodes of Gintama and Icarly by heart. You can't say that

>>870547
Nene trying to sing the English ABCs was adorable, I think she had at least 33 letters.
That is a foreign language though so there is an excuse.

>>870606
She'll figure it out. Google has her back. She may not know everything but atleast she knows where to find them.

>>870606
>>870547
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Wsz4iTzjY
I was wrong, she only had 29 letters rather than 33. Sorry to defame you Nene.

everyone who said Aqua obviously has never watched Gura. Gura is easily the most retarded holo. Special ed shark doesn't surprise me anymore.

>>870666
She knows the weirdest of stuff that normal people don't

Gura would get stuck on the card puzzle in Bioshock Infinite.

>>867149
Nene only said the snot thing because Matsuri has said the same thing to Hoshikawa. Glass cannon just can't handle getting it back.

>>864622
I live in the northeast and never heard an accent like that, though I don't know too much of NH or VT. What parts of Gura's speech?

>>870547
It's true, nene knows all the numbers. We like to call her the CEO of Counting

>>865666
I mean I did that too back in high school, I loved caps too and wore them everyday, I also brought my parents with me to the doctor. Watching her videos I can relate to her a lot because it's what I used to do. I'm fine now, went to college got a job etc.
I think I'm fine, anyway.

>>871133
Adding on to this, from my experience it mostly has to do with crippling social anxiety than anything. I was physically unable to say anything even though I knew it was irrational. Other kids and teachers similarly treated me as if I was straight retarded.

I would suggest her to speak to a therapist and take antidepressants. Or weed. Helped me a lot to get out of that hole.

Nenechi is either very dumb or an actual genius. I've been watching her since her debut and I'm still not sure which.

>>856712
Unironically the best paid idol of all hololive, but I blame her Social awkwardness due to nipon autistic shy apologetic culture.

>>870545
She just likes to suck air through her teeth when shes anxious.

>>871257
her IQ goes so low it does an integer underflow and goes back to the very top. her actions end up as a stroke of genius regardless of intent.

>>871362
I think she's the most advertised along with Suisei and Sora.

>>871931
Sorry. I meant she gets the most sponsorships.

>>871891
No, she sucks the spittle back into her mouth. Aqua def. drools on her keyboard sometimes.
https://youtu.be/oivXQLvu1-M?t=16

>>861977
>https://streamable.com/twnfx6
I can't... she's too cute

pic related
and it's why I love her

>>856732
>Miko
Miko tries too hard to act dumb like that time she picked up a whore in GTA and took her to a private area then was suddenly shocked when car sex ended up happening. Or like the time she "accidentally" burned down her house. She needs to do a better job of acting in my opinion. Pekora by contrast is very subtle and her skits feel very natural and unscripted (i.e., not planned). But yeah, Miko's character that she is trying to portray is the dumbest of all the hololive girls. Gura is the dumbest of the hololive EN girl. Gura is a great actor.

>>871953
She is the poster girl of hololive next to Sora as she is the nips favorite, She made Around 100k dollars after getting jewed by youtube and Covercorp (highest paid hololive idol) in 2019 and being the one with most spotlight and time in hololive alternative teaser confirms it.

>>872715
>Gura is a great actor
well she had to be good at something, I guess

>>873017
Yeah, she got a lot of screentime at Bloom itself(2 solo songs). Also the only one with a Sololive.

fbk, peko, and haato are the smartest and that's why they're my favorites

>>863463
It's not really necessary information, you moron.

>>870333
Bro I learned that shit in fucking middle school and haven't used it since, why the fuck would I remember any of it?

>>874201
How do you define what's necessary information

>>874305
Do you remember the name of the first cock you sucked?

>>874226
I think people just retain different types of information from school. I find that I remember a lot more of the history I was taught than most people but on math questions like that I'm completely clueless.

>>872715
>miko
her impromptu skits are unironically the funniest in hololive, and her trying to act and failing just furthers her ponkotsu image.

>>874226
you know what a 90 degree angle is, right
you know what a 45 degree angle is, right
look at a right angle triangle
what's 90 + 45 + 45?

>>875478
Well thanks for reminding me anon, now I just feel retarded.

>>866510
>>862615
>>864218
Noel has a STEM degree from an elite women's college and only Botan scored higher than her in Choco's quiz.

>>868286
>Aqua actually took an IQ test
Source?

>>875768
>Stem degree from an elite college
>Doesn't know what x^2 or the e-function looks liki doubt it.
I'd rank coco the highest with her 2 college degrees.

>>876159
She studied biology not math.

>>856364
Gura
She's lucky she's cute

>>875478
there are people that don't give a fuck about any of that, probably only crammed shit by heart without actually learning it for exams, and depending on the school they went to they may have had an easy time getting away with it. Those are after all man made abstract concepts, they help us model the world but they aren't the absolute be all and end all truths of reality. Just going by your example of triangle angle, all is fine and dandy in normal Euclidian space, sum of angles is 180 degrees, but once you introduce curved space that goes out of the window. And this isn't just some abstract concept that only academics jerk off to, curvature of space time, the representation of space in graphic cards, etc. Sorry for the autismo rant but people too often conflate knowledge with intellect, and while math is much closer to the raw inner working of the world than shit like trivia knowledge (it should be obvious to anyone that it has almost zero correlation with intelligence), math is still a man made structure and knowledge in those pillars that man created is still needed to operate with it.

>>864072
she was really having fun

>>876267
There is not a single stem degree that doesn't require you to take a least 1 or 2 math lectures.

>>867608
literally an engineer.

>>864072
nene is peak cute air head

>>870140
>>870120
Is nene the kiara of 5th gen?

>>876542
Nene is cute retarded, not menhera retarded

>>876457
She definitely studied STEM at a women's college. Her roommate used to stream in the evenings when she got back from college and later on work.

>>870140
5menasai was based

>>876457
Just checked the biology curriculum at a local uni, zero math classes there

Gura has legit problems understanding instructions, if her Papers Please streams are any indication.

>>870120
>>replied to a twitter account named crap_gay thinking it was watson when holoEN debuted

Hey, it's an easy mistake to make.

>>875768
Korone graduated with great grades from Tokyo Uni and when asked what the national bank of Japan was she got it wrong

>>877991
>Korone graduated with great grades from Tokyo Uni
You realize she was joking, right?

>>877991
Korone is also very intelligent but Tokyo U is joke though.

>>876159
It is bad to show off your math knowledge in most asian culture. (even middle school math)
It makes you look like an unsociable autist.
>>877991
It's not an important information to Todai graduates.
But i think she was just kidding there

>>863544
>Pekora, Moona and Botan are savant-ish in their respective areas but dont do much else.
What do you mean with 'their respective areas'?

>>863544
Miko has a mouth defect? What do you mean by that?

>>877991
Didn’t she say she was a Philosophy major though? That’s the classic useless college degree, right up there with Communication and Gender Studies.

>>881297
Its surprisingly not that bad. Education degrees are way worse, and stuff like psychology or womens studies or whatever. As far as earnings with only a BA go. If you're going into law school its also a pretty good choice since phil students score highest on the LSAT.
But this is an American context. No idea what a Japanese philosophy program looks like.

>>876489
What? As in, an actual engineer, or is that what she calls herself on Minecraft streams (sorry I don't watch Pekora).

It seriously disturbs me how many people take Gura seriously. Her acting is so transparent. It's like a parent goofing around with their child. I guess that says a lot about her audience.

>>868365
I guarantee you the only time a hispanic will be waving their flag or even have a flag of their home country is during a big soccer game.

>>877991
Explain this.

>>881809
I don't get it.
What's should I be explaining?

>>881809
Kek, Korone is smart enough to know taht every cubespace of minecraft exists in a superposition of filled and not filled, by taking a cube of dirt and filling another empty space, there's a chance that when she next observes the new empty space the minecraft wave function will collapse in a state of filled and a cube of dirt appear in the now no longer empty space. if you had watched the stream you'd knew that that is what ultimately happens...

>>867637
Most casual fans now think that Rushia is 20 because of that "leak", the dumb ones here are definitely not her

>>859716
Nigerians earn more than than white British in Britain, that's not because Nigerians in general place more emphasis on education, it's because only the most well educated and intelligent Nigerians manage to secure citizenship in the UK. A similar thing happens with people from India in the US, they're not taking a cross section of Indians, they're picking those who have valuable skills

>>866521
>>866542
No, she isn't playing things up. Granted, the 2x2 thing was her trying to get a coherent explanation from a livestream chat, but after that fiasco she understands it now. I think her intelligence is sparatic, with a lot of what she doesn't know being stuff she could learn if she tried. I want to rrat and say she's dyslexic, but I don't think that'd be right of me, so who really knows

>>870120
Don't forget nearly getting kidnapped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b9sBL005jI

>>882278
There is no way she's dyslexic considering her job.

>>857482
>But she's has learned a lot since then.
She thought N on a map meant south just a couple days ago.

>>876542
As in the best? Maybe

>>884106
Quick, which of these means south, 東北南西

>>884351
南

>>884351
>tfw always confusing 南 and 東

>>884605
南 is the easiest for me, I always see the inside bit as an arrow pointing down even though it's not really.

>>857564
To be fair, texas did get colder than alaska in certain parts. Doesn't excuse what happened, but the grid can handle heat much better than cold

>>857564
The brownest states are also falling apart the fastest, I wonder why they always become shitholes? Class and race analysis is always needed in tandem to understand things, retards will demand you only look at one and not the other depending on where their biases fall.

>>858928
imagine falling for that clown act

>>856460
luna is actually really smart with the way she interacts. she's a good airhead but doesnt stay stupid. go watch her marine streams, she knows just how to irritate marine

>>863947
From midwest here, she sounds exactly like girls I know.

>>865868
in japan high schools can have the same standards as universities tard

>>865734
>High school is the point the material requires enough actual work that intelligent kids who simply stop giving a shit will get low grades.
hitting the wall in highschool is peak midwit

>>874364
you suck cocks?

>>857564
Uhh we are fine now. It was 70F today.

>>882957
That's in the second one.
>>870140

>>865734
In HS I either sat in the back of the class and played on my DS, or I just straight up skipped school to hang out with my friends and play video games.

Nowadays, I have a masters degree and am a software engineer. I also work with a lot of people who get paid as much as I do, but have no degree and no student loans. Kinda jelly, but college was still a good experience, just not worth the money

>>856364
Aqua

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoV5Sq1Ybr4
To be fair it's one of those stupid "IQ" games that doesn't really measure IQ at all but I will use any excuse to post cute ESL Haato. Really noticeable aussie accent too.
Bonus points: in the original stream she gets so engrossed in one of the mobile ads she sees that she ends up downloading it on stream and doxxing her Hololive gmail.

>>886804
ta

>>856818
wow I wonder why a neet who only plays games 24/7 and doesnt talk to people wouldnt know trivia questions

>>881902
retardchama...

>>890878
Oh I finally get it.
But Korone got it in under a minute, sounds pretty smart to me.

>>867080
>>867211
See? that's what Haatons do.
They're just feeling false fatherly fulfillment by pampering a poor Japanese girl.
>Waaaa they called me idiot again~~~!!!
>No! Haato they are wrong! You're a genius as you are! Everyone knows it and those poor people are just jealous of you!
>Oh so? P, peppe ooni!!
In reality she's a daughter of Japanese establishment, and doing her stream is just a means to learn how to handle you low IQ commoners when she does her job in Japanese Diet as one of the major members of the ruling party.
>Hololive-party of Japan

>>881297
Philosophy majors make the most out of any humanities major retard

Why does every thread these days devolve into an /int/ thread?

>>894220
That's because philosophy tends to be a bullshit major people get when theyve already got another job lined up with their parents or something, though

>>881297
I know a Japanese guy holding a master degree of Philosophy in Tokyo uni. He quit there and became quite a functioning guy. But what he said was the tragedy starts when you proceed to the doctoral course of that field.
>You'll live in utter solitude. Nobody pays attention to you nor understand what you say.
>You'll occasionally go out and find the outer world has become much too bright for you. You'll go back to your room where you're surrounded with masterpieces and magnum opus those who no longer live created, and start struggling with them again, alone in your gloomy room.
>People laugh at you and you don't give a shit to them, because you know they're all determined to die, including yourself.
>One or two people may frequent you though, because they think you're some funny creature while giving some food to you.

>>865128
It is. Just not a good one
t. burger

>Ctrl F "towa"
>0 results
Fools

>>894528
That's total bullshit, the real reason is simply that college degrees don't matter and philosophy majors are just the only smart humanitiestards

>>895784
Are we going to go through the whole argument about how IQ is primarily predicted by wealth? All this predicts is where the wealthiest people end up.

>>895867
>Are we going to go through the whole argument about how IQ is primarily predicted by wealth?
No, it's the other way around
>All this predicts is where the wealthiest people end up.
Yeah I'm sure all those lazy wealthy kids are just taking difficult majors like math, physics, engineering (and philosophy btw) because they already have cushy jobs lined up.

>>872715
>Or like the time she "accidentally" burned down her house
she thought you could put magma in a cauldron, and putting out fires in minecraft with water doesn't work well even though it's a reasonable assumption that it would. ars burned down her giant tree
gura is almost certainly acting with the math and it's not good acting

>>895898
Wealthy kids are the only ones who can either a) afford the schools where they can get those educations, b) afford the resources to prior to prepare them for those educations, or c) afford to gamble with their future for a position in a limited specialty field.

>>896180
None of that has anything to do with IQ

>>896180
>Wealthy kids are the only ones who can either a) afford the schools where they can get those educations
Nigga what school doesn't have engineering and math majors

>>859493
Kiara should because >>859619
but she got it wrong anyway

>>896203
...which is predicted by wealth.

>>896284
Wealth is a correlate to IQ but it's obviously not causal so I don't see what point you're trying to make

>>896305
>obviously not causal
See, that's what you're not getting. It is.

>>896356
Okay explain to me what the causal mechanism is for a person's wealth leading to a high degree of proficiency in the sorts of pattern recognition puzzles used in IQ tests which can be used to predict success in the aforementioned high difficulty majors. And keep in mind that IQ is likely around 80% genetic which we know from separated twin studies.

>>864037
>pekora
>smart

>chama
>stupid

do your reps

>>881259
Small tongue, cant pronounce properly.

>Vtuber IQ comes up in any capacity
>Always 20 people who come out of the woodwork to say "IT'S ALL KAYFABE, YOU FELL FOR THE TRICK, THEY'RE A GREAT ACTOR"

>>864037
>Polka and Haato low IQ
>he lacks critical information