/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>85633432
I'm kinda surprised she wasn't first. Maybe now that Ame's primed the way, she'll feel comfortable pulling the trigger, like when someone else in the room coughs and now you feel safe to cough.

>>85633432
Don't play games with fate dramafags

If you beg one to graduate, he will shoot down a different one

>>85633432
Good on her.
As long as she cotinues to do karaoke streams, i don't care. Brand allegiance is stupid.
She should just do it if she wants to, and take Fauna with her, so they can collab.

>>85633432
I don't like sunflowers.

>>85633432
god I hope just so that I will never see chumpedo shitposts again

>>85633432
i will assume she hasn't talked to management about how they change her voice in the songs and she complains about it just because
>>85633909
they will never let her graduate

>>85633432
at the risk of sounding a little rude, somebody with Gura's level of skill being a diva over how she's mixed in her music is kinda hilarious. like... you occasionally do cutesy karaoke streams. get real.

>>85633432
IF, by any chance, cover is the reason why she seems so lazy (big cope) then i will absolutely give her a chance should she go indie. Im pretty sceptical tho and i need to be convinced.

>>85635123
chumbuds gassed her singing ability up when she's mid at best, suppose it went to her head

>>85633432
people keep asking why millionaires would want to leave. This is why. When you are unambitious fucks like most of us /HERE/ getting easy money is worth it. When you are a creative, getting through the bullshit of corpos is draining, and knowing you have an audience no mater what you do makes you more bold in willing to leave and have more freedom. I wouldn't be surprised though if Cover will force her to stay. She makes way too much money for them.

NijiGODs are preparing for the day the scourge on EN Vtubing finally goes down, I'm gonna order tons of expensive food to celebrate.

>>85636456
Cool

>>85636456
hololive is going to collapse in TWO WEEKS!!!

>>85636488
>>85636540
I'm gonna grudgepost you fags lol

>>85635123
or.... maybe COVER's mixing was so fucked that even someone with low self-esteem as Gura got pissed off. Remember Myth's Country Roads exists.

Contract renewals just happened, we will either get an announcement very soon or it will be another year

>>85636456
Based, niji keeps winning

>>85633432
>member stream post
>posted exaggerations and lies
>thinks he's clever with his doomposting

yep, we got a neurotic mentally ill nijiisister folks.
fuck you rrat poster and your fucking lies.

she didn't say most of what this lunatic dreamed up, and the stuff this lunatic did quote somewhat accurately was in different context. the only line of truth in this whole RRat is gura being somewhat frustrated with the producer she's working with for a song, her exact words were

Members Stream: "it is time"
timestamp: 1:44:15

sorta serious tone of voice from gura - "I have this thing where i don't really like how I sound in music, and it's been that way for 4 years now. I much prefer how i sound when it's just me and my microphone and reverb. so I kind of prefer doing karaoke over anything that has to go through... multiple mixer hands. Yeah... cause... right away you can tell 'oh gee.. oh gees i can tell... and you guys can tell' and so... mixing is hard, i'm not gonna lie especially because i'm so picky because i know how I sound and how i want to sound or like... or like a problem i noticed a lot I'll have vibrato on a certain part, then I'll get a mix back and the vibrato will be flattened and removed and i have to say "hey, why did we do that? can we not do that? i would like that... That was a stylistic choice! That was not done... that was not a mistake! That was a stylistic choice, please revert! REVERT! so... Music too loud? Wait in the mixes, the music is always too loud, I've realized in the music today the music is always too loud. so I waste my time asking to fix this, like "hey.. i'm listening to the vocals here"

so... yeah um... i don't know.. and then it's usually... um... *cute shork noises for about 10 seconds with some giggles* yeah, music too loud, i've noticed that in a lot of music in general, is that a... new style? like the anime sound... whos that one sound guy, in anime and he just makes everything bass-boosted to the point where it all sounds like it's peaking but that's the stylistic choice. everything is like suuuuuper loud (she's giggling here) to the point of distortion?"

nerdy gura voice "urm... akshually gura loud is funny"
normal happy gura voice "sometimes!"

and she wanders off on a tangent.

>>85635123
This is *all* out-of-our-ass speculation but I imagine, anon, that the frustrations are probably more to do with all of the canceled projects. We all have our petty grievances, just because she mentioned it doesn't mean she is being a diva about all of them.

Maybe she is delusional about her singing though. God knows 1 of them in her generation is.

>>85638936
she gone gone brother

>>85633432
So she wouldn't go back to her UH OH account but instead reincarnate into a sunflower vtuber?
Why are the only images readily available fucking tiny

>>85633432
phasepag thread

>>85633432
I rellay hope she is, now she can keep her "mascot" status without making her fans wait for crumbs every 3 months.

>>85633909
She IS Hololive at this point. Letting her graduate would be like Nintendo sunsetting the Mario character.

>>85638936
based rratkiller

>>85633432
>making shit up
kys tranny

>>85638936
Your word against another anon's man, if its wrong give us a catbox clip or something

>>85638936
rratstomperKING

>>85643794
I mean they kind of already did that by letting go of Martinet. Now Mario will only use existing voice clips going forward and other characters like Wario already have new voice actors.
Not saying they'll skinwalk her, but Cover does have 4+ years of content to work with.

>>85648190
??? they immediately recast Mario and there was a minor controversy about it. You can hear the new voice in Mario Wonder, and I think the same guy took over Luigi too. At the end of the day I don't think it's comparable, you can recast a game character and get away with it but every example of attempting it with a vtuber was apocalyptic.

>>85643794
>She IS Hololive at this point.
No, she's really not. She's not even HoloEN.

>>85643794
If Gura became an affiliate literally nothing would change. Her merch would still sell insanely well.

>>85649526
Yes, she is. HoloJP doesn't matter anymore. English speaking Hololive has long since overtaken JP in terms of sheer global exposure.

>>85637225
I like how they did that solely to capitalize off of her most popular vod

>>85633432
Gura graduating would unironically kill EN.
Full Color is an amazing song, but because JP managers are fucking gay it's hard to do anything with them.

This is why Mori will become CEO btw. She's the only one that can effectively do things the Japanese way.

Both Gura and Ame just want to do game or karaoke streams because everything else requires lots and lots and lots of work. I'm not calling them lazy, but Mori and Kiara are the only ones with JP work ethic. The reason why people are getting less streams from Gura and Ame and Ina is because they were hired to be streamers with idol traits. Now they are being told they must become actual idols that stream too.

Ame is going to Nijisanji btw. Screencap this post.

>>85637007
Include me in the screencap, next to every Niji talent who jumped ship between now and Gura's announcement.

>>85638936
>yeah, music too loud, i've noticed that in a lot of music in general, is that a... new style?
all we've learned is that shark is getting old :(

>>85633909
Yeah, my money was always on Gura being the first.
It's weird that Ame has chosen this half-assed "I'm not gonna stream but it's not graduation" way of quitting.
But I suppose that's just the Ame way.

>>85638936
> is that a... new style? like the anime sound... whos that one sound guy, in anime and he just makes everything bass-boosted to the point where it all sounds like it's peaking but that's the stylistic choice. everything is like suuuuuper loud (she's giggling here) to the point of distortion?"
Please tell me she isnt trying to talk shit about Hiroyuki Sawano

>>85636456
wow extra large goat rice

>>85633432
>tranny op making up shit that wasnt said

>>85653918
Still seen no evidence to the contrary

>>85643794
Chumbuds are insane

>>85650394
H-hot..

Reminder that Gura is joining Phase Connect as a Sunflower VTuber

>>85634198
Ouch

>>85643794
>She IS Hololive at this point
In your delusions?

>>85661242
brown EOPs think she moves more money than the JP powerhouses kek

>>85661598
she's good at selling merch. that's about it.

>>85644931
>soliciting members' content
you might as well namefag as 'Vox Fellator Ichiban', sister.

>>85643794
But they're not letting Ame graduate, so they're obviously prepping to do this with Gura who doesn't want to stream at all.

>>85633432
i ogey this rrat

>>85633432
hasn't Gura already done this?

>>85633432
see the thing is: I bet there's a huge subset of girls in EN and ID right now who didn't realize they were walking into a 9 to 5 job when they signed up. They probably thought they would play some games, mess around, and get an easy paycheck.

Now reality is kicking in and things like public appearances, sponsorship deals, advertisement deals, collab deals, streaming contracts are stepping in, they're treating it the same way as any other 9 to 5 job: Do it as little as possible. Reduce streams, reduce time on the road or on a plane, reduce their investment until they are doing the bare minimum they can get away with.

Really, there are only a few holos left who are real company women at this point
>Mori
>Kiara
>Fauna
>SOMETIMES Moomei
>Kaela

Everyone else has some real "Let me clock out at the end of the day" attitudes. Which is fine, let's not be wrong. It is a job at the end of the day. Ame must have decided that it's not worth going to a 9 to 5 job that has mountains of overtime involved (Paid overtime is still overtime)

For the amount of time invested, they could probably get real jobs that pay a steady paycheck.

>>85643794
They'll just give her sponsorship deals to Fuwamoco and Mori, which works better for the japanese market since both can do ads in japanese and work a lot harder. She really hasn't done enough to say that her loss would be that big of a deal. Pekora and Miko are Hololive in the sense that you're saying.

>>85638936
I honestly believe in the ‘tism of those who go this far in writing out the details of stuff than people like the guy in OP’s pic who make vague remarks. You do good work.

>>85661242
i can see his point somewhat
for people who actually follows hololive obviously not like where is her solo concert with 8k++ seats? her MVs in that 3D shinjuku billboard?
but for clipnig casuls, people who knows hololive only by their names like granblue doujin only fans and people who knows vtubers exist without watching any then gura is the main face of hololive just like pekora and korone pre holoen

>>85633432
Whos after

>>85643794
hololive wouldn't even notice her leaving

>>85633432
Now you know why they created HoloEN Justice so soon after Advent. A lot of the old ENers are going to quit, and then try and fail as indies.

>>85672284
>try and fail as indies
Yeah cause holodrones only care about girls that have the blue dorito

>>85649941
>Ame is going to Nijisanji btw. Screencap this post.

>>85643794
Chumbuds are beyond retarded
Take a (you) and get out

>>85635123
A lot of Cover's mixing is in fact ass though. They don't know what to do with English vocals and they also butcher Mumei's voice every time too, she unironically sounds much better in unarchived karaoke than her actually mixed tracks.

I think the problem is that someone like Kiara would say no, that's not right, I want it like this, and keep complaining until they do it the way she's happy with or let her hire a different producer. I can imagine Gura being way too awkward and shy to advocate for herself and at best would just maybe ask once and when she's still unhappy to just accept it and then seethe about it internally instead of taking her issues to Cover.

>>85636392
Even as an unambitious fuck, working for a japanese employer can be immensely frustrating and especially if you're the type of person who likes to do things your own way or from a culture where a certain amount of self-sufficiency is expected. I've done it and even if you don't give a shit about the work, it can be soul crushing to constantly have to do things in an inefficient way you know is wrong and have road blocks thrown up in the way of doing your job correctly because the higher ups aren't willing have any flexibility or modernize at all.

>>85667617
>he puts Mumei above Kronii in terms of willing to put in work

I don't think it is complicated. Gura gets easy money from merch sales so she doesn't need to do much more than obligated content. Cover is a Japanese company and I bet there are plenty of frustrating moments working for them. I know people harp on about forced idolshit and while I think it is obvious everyone in Advent was recruited with that in mind, I don't get the same feeling from Justice at all. They are more like normal streamers doing their own thing, at least so far.

The only thing I really fault her on is putting little to no effort in being a senpai. At least on streams, maybe she does a lot behind the scenes we don't see and if that is the case then I'm a faggot, but we'll never know.

>>85633432
She might become a sunflower or sun themed indie vtuber.

>>85633432
Ok but so what is ame doing, is she doing fleshstreams again since she is graduating? or what's her plan?

>>85675567
She might have another vtuber model lined up.

>>85633432
Be Gura
>know for months one of your favorite JP senpais is leaving
>know for months your best pal in your Gen is leaving
>you know today who is leaving in the next 6 months
And people wonder why she sounds miserable when she streams

>>85675786
I see, anon do you have that image of hololive had on their slideshow that described turning fans into fanatics or an idea on where to find it?

>>85667617
Fauna? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

>>85669235
There's no point its a god damn shitpost. No one gives two shits about the irrelevant people outside their circle, this is no different.

>>85667617
>I bet there's a huge subset of girls in EN and ID right now who didn't realize they were walking into a 9 to 5 job when they signed up. They probably thought they would play some games, mess around, and get an easy paycheck.
You are an idiot. All of this would be laid out in the interview/recruitment process.
Are you some sort of fucking dumbass NEET?

Only Myth would not really be sure of the future because they were the first and had to pave the way for everyone else.

>>85674982
>Gura gets easy money
you are faggot, simple

>>85667617
Unless you're deliberately leaving out the JP members this list is a joke. Even then this list is still a joke, because Fauna and Mumei are in contention of the laziest employee of the month in their gen.

>>85674159
Then she should subcon production through Wawa, properly compensated and credited as producer. Problem fucking solved.

>>85633909
>I'm kinda surprised she wasn't first.
Same.

>>85674982
>They are more like normal streamers doing their own thing, at least so far.
So was Advent after debut. Holo will push Justice down the idol shithole in 5 months making them all miserable, mark my words.

>>85643794
Surely there's a fallacy named after whatever you're thinking of, but a similar situation with Nintendo existing doesn't mean the same thing would happen here

>>85667673
It doesn't work like that lmao. Every view equals ad revenue. No one would just pass over Howard sterns whatever down to opie and anthony because they're number 2. If they did, cover would have to take a massive loss in those. The girls each have a monetary value that cover can leverage.
>what is the cost of Taylor swift now
>what is the cost of foo fighters
I honestly wonder how some of you guys function in the real world lol

>>85633432
Nah, mumei is next.

>>85677724
I just don't buy it. At this point everyone who joins hololive should have an expectation they're going to be doing some singing and idol activities. Anyone who joins post council should know what the deal is and at least be willing to try. Even excluding ERB who obviously has no problem with music stuff, the other girls all seem like the type who wouldnt be self conscious and would be up for giving it a go.

>>85633432
what do you think Ame's reduced role is for?
Ame's getting a king's ransom in salary to tard wrangle the shork full time

>>85678686
Expectations are often let down by reality.

>>85678686
Hard to believe any company would actually set proper expectations on what your job will entail.

>>85677395
Wawa should subcon my nads

>>85633432
>upset over cancelled projects
Movie May

>>85678686
>the other girls all seem like the type who wouldnt be self conscious and would be up for giving it a go.
Giving it a go and being forced to do it for months on top of everything else mean different things. Take Cecilia who says she wants to give a lot of things a go but ends up not doing them and falling back to her true passion of doing creative bits on stream (a talent that is not valued in holo as much as idolshit is), she'd be the first one from Justice to drop

>Cover's mixing
You enter any song release, read the description, and you see a different person credited for mixing. You watch a release afterparty stream or check twitter at the time of release, they're retweeting the mixer and thanking them for their job, sometimes explaining why they chose that person. What a ridiculous, childish cope.
If the mixing is bad then change the fucking mixer.

>>85633432
Even if she was I'm still proud of her for not being the first to call it quits like everyone was saying. In short. /vt/lost /jp/lost.

>>85643794
>Gura IS the company because NUMBER BIG and and....uoooooooooooooooh
you guys wonder why you're pretty much the most hated fanbase, YAGOO himself hypothetically would entrust holoEN to Mori before Gura, someone who does stream is not the face of the branch let alone the whole company.

>>85680279
Cecilia is barely keeping up now, there's no way she'll keep up when things get actually busy for her.

>>85680808
Yeah, it's sad but my expectation with her is she'll either pull a Sana in 3-6 months when the work really starts to hit or she'll wait it out for the one concert around the anniversary then be done after that.
I don't see a future where she's a long term member but she'd definately go back to being an indie because vtubing is actually her passion, just not the way holo wants to do it

>>85680279
>>85680808
Ceci is the only Justice I really like. I hope she stays, but yeah, if Cover forces idolshit THAT much then I won't be mad if she left.

>>85633432
/vt/ has been waiting for Gura to graduate since 2021.

>>85633909
There's too much money on the line with Gura, as opposed to Ame who constantly self-sabotaged her income.

>>85680505
>proud of her for continuing to grift and take fans' money
ogey

>>85649107
The same VA also took over as Wario in the latest WarioWare game, the Chris Pratt VA controversy was much bigger than the recasting.

If Gura leaves I'll unironically believe in a merger rrat because what will EN even have left to return the massive investment they made into them?
It's not like ID or Stars where they put no money in and pull no money out, they've got an LA office that needs rent paid

>>85681220
Better be prepared then, there’s no chance Cover will allow any of the girls to miss the song and dance. I can’t imagine she didn’t know what she was signing up for, they even have 3 months of training before their debut nowadays

>>85667617
>>Fauna
I wish, at least she would stream more frequently.

>>85681678
Another delusional cumbud. Imagine a world where Gura doesn't stream. Oh wait you don't have to we are living in it. There would be virtually no difference if she did the same graduation thing Ame does today except cumbuds like you would be crying and shitting their pants.

>>85682165
>3 months of training
That was training for streaming shit and hanging out together, not physical training for dancing or singing.

>>85682165
>I can’t imagine she didn’t know what she was signing up for
I'm pretty sure she actually didn't understand how much work it would be, even before the idol stuff. She's not dumb but she's not great at planning ahead and thinking things through

>>85683090
>training for streaming shit
Is this a joke? Do you think they were randos off the street who don't know what the go live button is? If you think they need more than 1 day to learn the do's and do not's of Holo streaming I've got a bridge to sell you.
>hanging out together
What do you suppose they do when they are in a corporate mandated hangout session? Smoke weed and watch movies? If you want to argue they were building camaraderie with team games and events some of the time then sure, but believing none of it was dance/singing sessions is pure cope.

>>85643794
Hololive terminated their biggest earner supachatter, let go their second biggest earner and let go an exceedingly popular member of Gen 2 in the form of Aqua. What makes you think Cover would forcibly keep someone from graduating when they've shown zero premise of doing so in the first place? If someone wants to go, then they're gonna go my dude.

>>85682977
I haven't watched her in years and actually think graduating would benefit her if it gives new motivation to stream, or do anything, same with Ame.
I just don't know how holo recovers from it and not even in a revenue sense, but in a branding and relevance in the public consciousness sense. Gura IS hololive to a lot of people in the west, they don't know or care about any of the other members

>>85684453
Gura is a whole different beast. She has massive global reach. She is the face of Hololive whether you like it or not.

>>85684568
They still have Pekora and Suisei for that and I'd say Mori is on par if not even more of a HoloEN face than Gura.

Gura graduating is like Michael Jordan retiring. Except there is no Lebron or Steph carrying on the torch. Unless you are ok with Ironmouse and Filian

>all this glazing for someone who doesn't even like streaming and is probably tired of all the shit she has to do with hololive

>>85684391
>If you think they need more than 1 day to learn the do's and do not's of Holo streaming I've got a bridge to sell you
It would mostly be PR training and stuff specific to holo.
>Here's how our specific software works
>Here's all the staff
>Here's all the things you are not allowed to say or do or we dump your ass on the street like Mel
And yeah other than that it is just teambuilding and working on debut stuff. Ceci has basically said that singing and dancing lessons aren't a part of it because she sought out singing lessons on her own, only after debut, and talked about all her joints screaming when she tried to do idol poses in a mirror as practice

Cover will destroy EN with the idolshit and permission shit. Western girls are used to more freedom.

>>85638936
certified lurker here chiming in to say this mfer actually transcribed it word for word with her quirks. she was just yapping like always in a fucking zatsu so ofc nijisisters will rrat

rratkiller indeed

>>85633909
There's a queue

>>85684768
>Unless you are ok with Ironmouse
I kinda am personally, she's definitely more active, seems like a sweet person, and does more good for the world with charity stuff and trying to bring vtubers into the the general online content sphere. Not Filian though she's obnoxious

>>85684768
Ironmouse is kareem abdul-jabbar

>>85685389
mousefag detected

>>85685562
I've literally never watched her I've just seen more instances of her being a positive presence in the community than I've seen Gura doing anything in the last 2 years

>>85676844
Streaming, original songs, and a few months of idol stuff would be expected; hitting the upper limit of how long Japan lets you stay without a visa because Hololive wants 3D video stuff but is too retarded to make a consistent block for the non-Japan/SEA girls is another thing entirely.

>>85651461
I think she's talking about giga

>>85685791
>hitting the upper limit of how long Japan lets you stay without a visa because Hololive wants 3D video stuff but is too retarded to make a consistent block for the non-Japan/SEA girls is another thing entirely.
Sure, hence why I'm coping that Ame studio is the solution to this.

>>85685791
>hitting the upper limit of how long Japan lets you stay without a visa because Hololive wants 3D video stuff but is too retarded to make a consistent block for the non-Japan/SEA girls is another thing entirely
Wait has this happened? What the fuck is wrong with them?

>>85633432
I watched the member stream, literally none of this happened the way OP's image said it did.

Someone needs to post the vod so people can judge for themselves.

>>85686019
um do you think someone would just lie on the internet?

>>85684556
Sure she might be, but those same people who don't know or care might as well not exist if they are that superficially interested, they will never meaningfully contribute anyway. If all you know about Hololive is Gura its unlikely you have any merch, maybe a Gura keychain or sticker at best. It's like if I said I like tennis but I couldn't tell you who's the current world no. 2. My take about tennis would be completely irrelevant, and it is.

>>85674743
Mumei is someone who puts in 100% effort 30% of the time (and fucks off the other 70%), which is very different from someone who gives 30% effort 100% of the time. The latter is the lazy 9-5er ethos. Just clocking in every day and not giving a fuck about what you're doing. Mumei goes on a million breaks and dissapears for half of the year, but when she actually shows up, she gives it her all.

>>85633432
Lmao good first gen was shit anyways, every single one of them. None of them are good idols/streamers in general. I'm glad she wants to leave. Cut the fat meat out the bone. Fucking whore.

>>85686184
I mean I agree with you but I don't think holo does. Their goal is to increase revenue and the way to do that is bringing in new fans. What do you think things like the dodgers collab were for? And how would they be able to do that if they don't have a single recognizable EN face other than Gura?

>>85633432
I'll follow her until the day she become flesh. Rule in holo is they only allow 1 graduation in 2 months or something

>>85686019
2 newest member streams aren't posted anywhere

>>85687442
>they only allow 1 graduation in 2 months or something
I can't tell if this is confirmed true or confirmed false because they're really pulling out all the PR speak to try and say this isn't a graduation

>>85667617
>Fauna
Nigga come on

>>85687121
They'll probably pivot to Mori, or just come up with other outreach ideas like cons and world tours. Her graduation is an inevitability that Cover have to eventually account for and I highly doubt the entire branch's existence hinges on her hanging by a thread.

>>85687001

>>85644931
get membership you poorfag

>>85686535
>someone who gives 30% effort 100% of the time
Was Kronii also giving 30% effort during the GTA collab?

>>85680532
Sora will always be in another league above the lazy fucks that take their opportunity for granted

HOLOFAGS STILL COPING
Niji Reality : Graduation of literal whos, nothing of value was lost
Holo Reality: Graduation of well-known vtubers, some are likely to follow suit

Maybe its not TOTAL NIJIEN DEATH, but HOLOEN one..
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>85633432
Gura retains her fans; when anyone else would severely decline.
She's given years to catch up. No one else stepping up is not Gura's fault. Blame other Westerners. Shows that she is still the true Queen of the West. She is like royalty. Peon rules and speculations don't apply to her.

>>85686535
Kronii is the only person in Promise at this point who still makes an active effort to put out schedules on a regular basis and is a constant on the EN side in terms of participating in projects like voice packs. Just because you hear a low voice and assume "lazy" doesn't mean that's reflective of reality.

>Gura
Improved her dancing and stage presence greatly since 2022, participated in many 3D concerts
>Ame
Has zero talent for singing and dancing, likes to do creative stuff instead, was given many opportunities to do so but could never stick to one project for long

They're not the same.

>>85693414
and I often dont see the point, half the time they are filled with 60%+ of break days, bitch why do you even bother put up a schedule then??

>>85693870
Ame have left every, single, project she's started half-done and after a few days into it.
Case in fucking point her 3 separate attempts at having a news show and each one of them crumbled after 3-4 episodes every time what the fuck

>>85636392
Except cover allows roommate activity, so if you really are some held back creative, there's nothing stopping you but yourself. Ame and Gura do nothing outside of hololive, or inside of it. Draw your own conclusions

>>85638936
>Wait in the mixes, the music is always too loud, I've realized in the music today the music is always too loud.
> I've noticed that in a lot of music in general, is that a... new style?

clever shork, noticed that organically all on her own. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

modern mixing is louder and louder and louder and nobody likes it

>>85636392
>When you are a creative
Tell me 3 significant things Ame have done in terms of creativity past 1 year except the spelling bee stream.
Her creativity have either been overhyped as fuck or she is just fucking bankrupt in that regard.

>>85684568
Least delusional chumbud.
Everyone's oshi graduates eventually.

>>85693870
Whats even your point? lmao.. If you're already cant think of any idea for your next episode, would you continue?

Its like asking Pewdiepie to do meme review continuously until today?

>>85694251
lol, I noticed that too
mixing being loud and compressed to shit has been a thing for decades at this point.
hardly new

>>85694075
Honestly I kinda wonder if she has ADHD

I don't understand anger towards chuuba who graduates.

>>85638936
Based nijiNIGGER rratslayer.
Inshallah we need to behead every nijinNIGGER and phase cuckold to rid this world of their useless existence.

>>85633909
Gura already graduated the ameway, she just never announced it. Ame will be doing the same thing Gura does right now, expect with even fewer streams.

>>85643794
But she's not. Myth is legend status, but the ones carrying HoloEN atm is Advent.

I'll feel sad if Myth members graduate, and they will eventually, but that's just how it is. People retire. I'm just happy that with the new contract, the chances of them being poached have significantly lessened. I'm alright with them going Indie, but them joining a shitty agency like Vshit will just leave a bad taste in my mouth. I'm so glad Cover now has a contingency for that, and you can tell with how nonholos seethe with Ame's contract.

>>85694595
Nope. Ame is not in any songs or concerts.

>>85694382
sure, it's not new, but it will always be new to new people - it's like young people discovering organically earth revolves around the sun by just noticing it from the environment even without the textbook as a kid - unless you are stupid


"One of the biggest albums of 2013 was Daft Punk's Random Access Memories, with many reviews commenting on the album's great sound.[26][27] Mixing engineer Mick Guzauski deliberately chose to use less compression on the project, commenting "We never tried to make it loud and I think it sounds better for it."[28] In January 2014, the album won five Grammy Awards, including Best Engineered Album (Non-Classical).[29]"

get best-engineered awards in the USA west with million grammies = just make it less fucking loud, kekw

>>85694385
I always assumed she had ADHD because she can't commit to anything. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets bored of whatever she does post hololive 6 months in and decides to come back as soon as they let her. Knowing her.

>>85694265
>>past 1 year

You hating little shit.
You can't abuse her worst/last year to try to refute a reputation well-earned in her prime.

Ulol.

>>85694924
Go on give me a synopsis of her feats as "le-creativty-dad" genius past 2 years instead then.
I'll wait.

>>85694800
I could see that happening, but I really hope it doesn't when she's been so burnt out this year.

So Ame not being in Ina’s 3D was actually foreshadowing

>>85675567
most likely going to the retirement facility while silvervale seethes

>>85694924
the irony that Gura have been more active than Ame 2024...

>>85633432
The sound mixing really just sounds like something you're supposed to specify how you want it.

>>85633432
Wtf?, Korone is leaving??????????

>>85680359
because it's a bait.

>>85694265
>>85694924
>>85695063
Kiara have always been the shadow banchou of creativty-dad in Myth, ppl just dont wanna acknowledge it

>>85694265
"creative" is a noun in that sentence, not an adjective.

>>85680532
>Gura IS the company because NUMBER BIG and and....uoooooooooooooooh
Yes.

>>85695978

>>85638936
Based rratslayer
OP btfo!
Shark will be the last of Myth standing.
If I'm wrong, God, show me how right now.

>>85695812
>ppl just dont wanna acknowledge it
No, people just don't watch Kiara lol

>>85696444

>Gura probably lining up her graduation
>Ame gets wind of it and plans accordingly
>Cover talks Gura into staying for a little bit longer, while finalizing Ame's "Graduation"

>>85649848
ENfags really live in their own little world

>>85680532
>YAGOO himself hypothetically would entrust holoEN to Mori before Gura
>while moris numbers are a couple thousand
>while gura is doing dodger stadium events and is plastered everywhere in japan

>>85651461
Nah, she's talking about Yasumasa Koyama who did the sfx for Fire Force, Fate series, Jojo's, etc...

>>85696444
kek too real

>>85687868
Yup I see they deleted all doubtful comments in pinned thread yesterday too. Something stinky holo management don't want us to know

>>85685389
>Supports Froot
Never fucking mind, I'm not OK with this.

>>85687442
>>85687868
>>85697293
Assuming anon's not lying and there's a system like that, Gura should be out by November, but maybe she will hold on after Christmas to make some extra cash unless she does another full year to rake in 2025 b-day cash. And then get out at around the same fucking date Watson did.
Realistically, anon's a fag and Gura's not going anywhere.
Never felt so good to be a chumbud.

>>85638936
Thanks for the context! Fuck those schizo.

>>85697293
>Yup I see they deleted all doubtful comments in pinned thread yesterday too.
I hate to tell you this, but all comments get deleted in a pinned thread. That's how a pinned thread.

>>85698017 (me)
>That's how a pinned thread works.
Accidentally'd a word.

>>85649941
lol, lmao, fucking schizo

So 2020 really was the best time to jump into vtubing? Almost half a decade of the same gig gets boring, granted, Gura started doing hers with less frequency two years in but I have to wonder what direction Hololive is going to make her feel like this.

Before I thought she just didn't like that cumchuds were either children or 30+ year old lolifags and that she never expected to be the face of HoloEN. This makes it sound like she is disillusioned with Cover.
It's weird to me because it wasn't until late last year where I'd say vtubing became way more mainstream in the west. Quitting at what I think is the apex of exposure and opportunities strikes me as odd.

>>85698191
Nah it was 2018 before EOP's existed and you could actually hold a reasonable discussion with people on 4chan about vtubers.
>inb4 last samurai
Yes, I am.

>>85633432
>>85633432
>it'll also be Gura's anniversary tomorrow I hope
>we shall see
>I'm sure she's got something planned
https://youtu.be/OAmx8R0HuF4?t=2611

>>85698327
please god let it happen it would be so fucking funny

>>85698386
Will never be as funny as Niji being thanos snapped or TungstenRat inevitably genuinely dying

>>85698302
You're talking about it from a fan's perspective and as a weaboo. I'm talking about from the vtuber's perspective.

>>85698446
Then it would still be 2018, because that's basically when the standards were set for vtubers and where a very large chunk of the trend-setters for a majority of the Vtubing worlds lifespan were created.

>>85677395
it's not that simple, remember they live in different timezone and completely different continent.

>>85636456
Let's be real, you'll order tonnes of expensive food anyway you fat fuck

If Gura was going anywhere, she wouldn't have gotten her updated model.

Total HOLOEN Death, it seems

>>85698621
SHE UPDATED IT FOR HER GRADUATION STREAM!

>>85698621
When my oshi was in a corpo, she got a new outfit like a week before she graduated and only had it for a month or so

>>85698688
A week before she announced her graduation, I meant

>>85698688
THATS RIGHT I KNOW RANDOM IRRELEVANT CORPOS WITH ZERO FORESIGHT WHO HAVE DONE THIS!

>>85638936
Membershrimp here, can confirm, this shit is a perfect transcript.

>>85694075
>Fishtank
>Ame in the AM
What's the third show?

>>85698824
>Random irrelevant corpos
Anon?

>>85699037
Not even the only instance

>>85698688
this isn't nijisanji anon...

>>85684768
>Picking between Ironlung and a hag who LARPs as a zoomer and is currently speedrunning the title of "first vtuber to die on stream"

>>85684768
What the fuck is an Ironmouse and Filian?
Advent is already carrying HoloEN. Gura can retire and it will just be an end of an Era

>>85698989
Watson Weekly

>>85677561
Desu.

>>85699318
assuming you aren't being ignorant on purpose the "biggest" vshoujo and the "biggest" indie vtubers respectively

>>85667617
>For the amount of time invested, they could probably get real jobs that pay a steady paycheck.
This is absolutely not true for ID girls.

Kek