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>Hana Flores graduation 08/15
https://youtube.com/channel/UCkvYfE6_lEmstu6GoqPUOZQ
>Marie indefinite hiatus 08/22 (+7)
https://youtube.com/c/FDMarie
>Shannon graduation 08/27 (+5)
https://youtube.com/c/LemonTeaBloops
>Lyrica graduation 09/03 (+7)
https://youtube.com/c/LyricaCh
Rate the NijiEN wave 3 lineup.

>> No.8560192

>>8560045
Holy shit, the two girls on the left are so fucking flat.

>> No.8560271

>>8560045
Kitsune’s tits plus the cunny
Shit, this wave will overshadow and stomp wave 1 and 2

>> No.8560459

>All better singers than HoloEN 2
What was Cover thinking

>> No.8560519

>>8560045
CUTEANDFUNNY

>> No.8560879

We sure Lyrica is in? She's got more subs than Rosemi.

>> No.8561065

>>8560045
if the previous gens are anything to go by then 3/4 will be big name indies and one will be a literal who

>> No.8562121

>>8560459
>all better singers than Irys

They only lost their auditions to her because they arent fluent japanese speakers and they dont live in japan.

>> No.8562233

>>8560879
Lyrica is best friends with Pomu and Elira's past lives. Her graduation stream didnt feel like she's leaving vtubing forever.

>> No.8562251

>>8560459
and yet they will have shit views

>> No.8562324

>>8562251
And yet why should anyone care about normieviews.

>> No.8562364

>>8562251
で?

>> No.8562409

>>8560879
She opened membership this month and then graduated. Plus she hinted at it during her stream.

>> No.8562535

>>8560459
They were concerned with being big brain. Doubt Lyrica would join HoloEN ever anyways because ENma is a bitch who doesn't like outside collabs.

>> No.8562552

>>8562251
Are you unable to enjoy vtubers if they don't get big numbers? Are you actually looking at the vtuber or at the big number next to the stream?

>> No.8562651

>>8560045
If Hana is one of them the line up is great

>> No.8562883
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>>8562251

>> No.8562899

>>8560045
God I fucking Hope Hana got in.

>> No.8563004

>>8562899
>>8562651
Can you hanafags give me a scouting rep on her given that you will know more about her than me. I am compiling scouting reports on these girls so that we get a better idea of what we should expect if they join NijiEN

>> No.8563209

>>8563004
One is given on the other thread on this.

>She's a professional trained singer and does acoustic karaokes with a ukelele.
Check her Twitter for lots and lots of song clips she's uploaded on there.
She also did quite a few long playthroughs of games, usually streaming for like 3-4 hours.
Sometimes she'd try to do yandere or or spooky content but it always ended up turning into a joke like this https://twitter.com/hanaflo_kawaii/status/1402863850941263875
https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1405786005970591747
https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1414107390933454851

>> No.8563379

>>8563209
Thanks, I noticed that one. I just want more because I want to do her justice.

>> No.8563470

>>8563004
She can draw and rig herself, I am pretty sure that she did rig her model herself.
An incredible singer, capable of very deep voice, wide range.
Primarily plays on PC but she played some RPG on consoles too.
Great sense of humor: not degenerate, but not prude-boring either.
Plays autism such as Rimworld, LOL and stardew valley.
Good balance between noticing paypigs but not alienating rest of the chat, was dedicated to reading chat enough to read dumps of it after stream when she couldn't keep track of it for one reason or the other (good fucking luck with thousands of NijiEN viewers).
Was poor before becoming chuuba (and not much richer after), couldn't afford good new mattress, SSD or microwave, which became a meme.
Had two dedicated paypigs that dropped her several akasupas per stream and bunch of smaller ones.

>> No.8563548

>>8563470
She fixed Reina's rigging too or helped with it or something

>> No.8563546

>>8563470
Thank you, you are a big help.

>> No.8563808

>>8560045
Hana would be such a great talent scout if they got her for Gen3

>> No.8563948

>>8560045
Assuming those really are going to be Nijien3 who will get what character?

>> No.8564036

>>8560045
Replace Marie with Ky0resu

>> No.8564096

>>8563948
Only one I can guess is Lyrica is the Valk and leader of gen.

>> No.8564192

>>8563808
Explain?

>> No.8564228

>>8560879
She made two tweets a few days before her graduation announcement saying if she ever retired she'd want to make clips for Niji, is very close with both Pomu and Elira and knows a handful of other Niji people

>> No.8564274

>>8564192
She's gosling masterbait, can sing, tech savvy, decent at games she plays, financially motivated.

>> No.8564348

>Hana posted peace out on twitter not long ago days after her graduation
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

>> No.8564444

>>8564348
anon the graduation streams and actual graduation mustn't be on the same day
she still played minecraft on kawaii server after her last stream

>> No.8564617

>>8562409
No wonder she was allowed to tweet that Niji stuff only a day or two before her graduation announcement. Would have been obvious she was moving somewhere regardless

>> No.8565378

>>8564617
>Would have been obvious she was moving somewhere regardless
it kinda was obvious, she talked how she came into vtubing as a career choice (and doesn't make sense to leave it 3 months after for IRL shit)
then there's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHJ2ioa3Ifs&t=11700s
>And maybe some day we'll meet again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHJ2ioa3Ifs&t=11716s
pay attention to the very, very silent
>I look forward to...you guys...

and also farewell letters from other kawaiis, none of them sound like she's retiring and one wished to sing together with her in the future

they're probably as blatant as NDA would allow them to

>> No.8565562

>>8565378
Yeah and dont forget that Nijisanji isnt anal with collabs unlike Hololive which means Hana may have graduated but they can easily just collab and meet again with Kawaii anytime.

>> No.8565715

>>8565562
That would be so good she had very good chemistry with Reina and Nene

>> No.8566400

>>8560045
>Hana debuts 4/28
>Niji Auditions open 6/17
>Niji Auditions close 7/11
>Hana announces graduation 7/24
For fucks sake can everyone stop it with the Hana rrats. This is gonna be Ceres 2.0. She also said she knew when she wanted to graduate but didnt know what date to pick so even though she announced it on 7/24 stuff behind the scenes had been brewing for weeks(most likely talks between her and management and negotiating a way out of her contract, these talks take days and is possible she wanted out of Kawaii even before 7/11). Also it takes Niji much longer than a couple weeks to finalize a talent for an avatar. She would have also had to put an audition in for Niji with being less than 2months into an active contract with Kawaii. The timeline just doesnt add up. Just let Hana and the flans RIP and stop dragging her corpse through a field of hopium.

>> No.8567202
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>>8565562
>unlike hololive
There are APEX collabs with indies and Nijis every day and occasional collab with a small indie like Polka x Polka etc.

I get a feeling it's not Cover being anal but more a question of personal preference: freedom-loving chuubas go to Nijis with already existing networking meaning they already have people they wanna collab in mind.

Hololive mostly recruits 3DPD streamers or, in rare cases, small indies that might not have had any VTuber friends prior to employment with Cover so any networking for potential collabs outside of company they have to do WHILE working for Cover.

>> No.8567282

>>8566400
That's for NijiEN2 though. OP is talking 3rd gen.

>> No.8567309

>>8567202
I was talking about HoloEN. Have you seen HoloEN collab with anyone smaller than them so far?

>> No.8567692

>>8567309
Did you read my post? The only formerly indie vtuber in HoloEN had good reasons to cut all ties to past persona and ghost fanbase. Others simply knew no VTubers to collab with.

And western indie VTubing is a minefield. Where do you even find a western indie chuuba to collab with that wouldn't violate Hololive idol image? And I mean to say that idol image is good, average western vtuber bad.

>> No.8567734

>>8567309
Unless someone wants to say ID, the answer is obvious no. ENma is a numberfag bitch.

>> No.8567971

>>8567692
>And western indie VTubing is a minefield.

There's various other agencies like Kawaii, Prism and Tsunderia that have a seiso idol image as well though. I mean even if it's not collabs but HoloEN cut themselves off from the vtuber community, you dont even see them communicate much on twitter either.

>> No.8568104

>>8567971
>There's various other agencies like Kawaii, Prism and Tsunderia
Most of them are very very recent compared to even HoloEN.
>HoloEN cut themselves off from the vtuber community
I honestly don't blame them, I blame feminism.

>> No.8568143

>>8567692
>Hololive Image
What image? The file is missing. Went missing in 2020 or some say since gen 1

>> No.8568216

>>8560045
If this is the actual lineup it proves that its Niji that everyone wants to join and Holoshit that gets the rejects. Literally worst Niji is better a better singer, more entertaining and less of a whore than best Holoshit.

>> No.8568246

>>8563470
>plays autism
I am excited

>> No.8568248

>>8567971
Except Kiara and Mori, but that's what makes people in this board seethe

>> No.8568459

>>8568143
That's why it's called image. Governments uphold public image of not being violence-enforced racket.
>>8568216
>its Niji that everyone wants to join
There are differences in agencies, Niji is more loose and Cover has larger production projects. Stop being dumb knee-jerking tribalfag.
>>8568248
>>8567971
Oh yeah didn't they collab with VShoujo and some ecelebs already? So the point is mute: there's no Cover cockblocking them, it's personal choice of holos.

>> No.8568520

>>8568143
the image barely exists in the eyes of most viewers but for some reason management still holds things back pretty notably, probably for jp audiences.

>> No.8568552

>>8568459
They still only collabed with kinda big figures though so they might not be anal about unseiso collab, which honestly would be stupid considering how somoe Hologirls both EN and JP act, and more about numbers

>> No.8568656

>>8568552
numberfagging makes sense
think of poor investorinos, anon

>> No.8569053

>>8568656
EN only cares, ID and JP really don't. Especially ID. Good reason why they are the best branch.

>> No.8569109

>>8560045
ah, just found the hipster thread. Enjoy the 2views, you'll be wrong about half of them, again;

>> No.8569147

>>8569053
Yeah you see JP and ID hanging out with indies all the time and supporting them. EN only cares about numbers which is why they collabed with vshojo of all people. So much for being scared of western feminist yab magnets.

>> No.8569146

>>8568216
nijien attracts people who want to take advantage of the freedom

holoen attracts people who want a jumpstart/security

as a result nijisanji is obviously going to attract more eccentric types, although they're also more polarizing so they tend to have less broad appeal (basically the opposite of hololive's hiring strategy of trying to balance skill with mass appeal).

I want to specify that I personally prefer nijisanji but don't have anything against hololive so this isn't dismissed as me shitting on them when I'm just trying to explain my perspective on things.

>> No.8569192

>>8567971
HoloCouncil are closer go the the indiesphere than Holomyth and Project hope. I'm taking some hopium here but I want Tsunderia x HoloCouncil connection through Miori snd Baelz, and Ririsya finally interacting with Holos through Baelz again. Sana is an artfag and Kronii goes deep into the indiesphere with Leaflit and other indies.

If anything, I hope EN2 doesn't explode in growth unlike EN1 and settle around the 600-800k range so they won't be too intimidating.

>> No.8569223

>>8569146
No need to explain, it is obvious you arent shitting on them.

>> No.8569254

>>8569109
>you'll be wrong about half of them, again
Literally every single guess for both waves was right except for Petra.

>> No.8569422

>>8569053
anymore, because they're big and established now and have several gens
EN only had 1 gen until literally this week

I'm withholding my judgement until later time. Maybe EN2 would collab with smaller vtubers more because most of them were one themselves.

Also: who would collab with small chuubas among EN1? Gura and Ame are fucking autistic to ask for anything first, Ame used to shut the fuck down in collabs with her genmates. Ina I have no comments even, she's a busy girl and so is Mori. And Kiara is a numberfag, makes sense she collabed with VShoujo.

So in my mind, it all still boils down to personal preference.

>>8569146
That's what I also think >>8568459

>There are differences in agencies, Niji is more loose and Cover has larger production projects. Stop being dumb knee-jerking tribalfag.

>> No.8569525

>>8569254
Actually, until the voice teasers, many expected Dokibird and Miki to be HoloEN 2.

>> No.8569544

>>8569147
EN is lucky that corona hit and clipfags clipped the hell out of hololive before it came out. Their management is probably some of the worst in all of vtubing. Who the fuck would want to join a company that won't let you collab with people you like, but are smaller than you?

>> No.8569577

Do we know if wave 3 will have 4 talents? From my understanding they usually make more models than they actually use, though that might usually happen behind the scenes.

>> No.8569595

>>8569544
>Who the fuck would want to join a company that won't let you collab with people you like, but are smaller than you?
Proof?

>> No.8569718

>>8560459
Numbers

>> No.8569746

>>8569422
I somewhat agree, but then I remember how Haachama got shadowbanned from collabing with EN and banned off of their server because of ENma. I do agree somewhat about the girls, it is a perfect storm in that way. Although I disagree with the Kiara point as she wants to collab with Pomu; and has expressed her frustration at management for cucking her with collabs.

>> No.8569836

>>8564036
She's going to VShojo

>> No.8569873

>>8569595
Tell me how many collabs EN has had outside of Hololive with people with less numbers. It's either the girls are autistic, management are shitheads or both.

>> No.8569898

>>8569746
No collab with Nijien is so weird considering how HoloJP really doesn't seem to have a problem with collabing with NijiJP

>> No.8570149

>>8569422
Kiara wants to do something with Pomu. She's the only actual idolfag in EN1 so it makes sense they click. But then again she's also busy playing mama bear for ID2 and now EN2.

>> No.8570153

>>8568459
I can tell you're new to this website by your attitude. enjoy responding to bait by retards who want to waste you're time.

>> No.8570247
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>>8566400
She is there as one of recent graduates. If someone else announces their graduation soon they will be more likely.
The thing that gives Hana rrat here any legs despite the timeline is the ghost character in NijiEN3 which seems to have been precasted. I don't know how or why Hana would end up voicing a precasted NijiEN3 character but atm she is one of the only four known candidates and it's the only known role she could have graduated for if she hasn't completely quit. The possiblities I can come up with are she is someone's personal friend or she didn't pass the first auditions but Anykara had her in mind for future waves and was willing to settle it with Kawaii after she had proven herself as a streamer. Kanae is a famous case of Ichikara going out of their way to recruit a talent they rejected at first because they had a fitting character for them in a newer wave.

>> No.8570269

>>8569898
I am sure someone will say competition but probably only EN management sees it like that. I'd be pissed too if I was Kiara and I couldn't collab with someone (Who might I add is a Kiara-level Otaku Boomer too.) because muh numbers.

>> No.8570392

>>8570247
From my scouting, it is because she is an all-around talent that is good at nearly everything. That is really rare.

>> No.8570398

>>8569873
Just Mori. If you're discounting mamas. Milky Queen floats around 30~ views on youtube and I'm a bit sad her collab didn't translate to more fans.

>> No.8570471

>>8569746
>Haachama got shadowbanned from collabing with EN and banned off of their server because of ENma
I'm under impression this is because she didn't ask for permission. And this is important because branches in other countries are usually daughter companies and have their own management, contracts and infrastructure. Letting in unauthorized people from another branch, de-facto another company, into your IT infrastructure poses a certain amount of risks that goes against both guidelines and perhaps even contracts with other talents as well.

Say Haachama signed shit to keep doxx-exploitable info secret for HoloJP infrastructure. What if she logs into HoloEN minecraft server and accidentally doxxes IP of other online players?

Now it's all allowed and I assume extra paperwork was needed for it to work.

>>8569873
>Tell me how many collabs EN has had outside of Hololive with people with less numbers.
Constant APEX collabs, every chuuba there have less numbers than holos, some are indies. Polka and some other holos I might be forgetting did collabs with random below 10k subs chuubas at some point.
> management are shitheads
yes but this particular situation doesn't look like an indicator to me

>>8570153
*your
My time is cheap go fuck yourself.

>> No.8570662

>>8570471
I am talking about HoloEN, not other branches. ID and JP do not share this at all.

>> No.8570667

>>8560459
because funnily enough even though they're "idols" cover realized most people don't care how well the talent can sing, but whether they can form a connection with their audience.

People would happily watch Coco/Noel sing for gods sake.

>> No.8570699

>>8570662
I've already explained why it might not apply to HoloEN just yet.

>> No.8570765

>>8570398
Mori's manager is the least toxic of them so no surprise there.

>> No.8570843

>>8570667
idols were never about singing anywhere in the world anon
>sign beautifully
>dance around the stage seductively
pick one

>> No.8571010

>>8570699
I know, I agreed with you that it probably is partially the girls as well. But Kiara has talked about how Management has fucked her over in terms of her collabing.

>> No.8571060

>>8569254
even with Petra taking awhile to figure out, anons found her old life right as she debuted and started singing.

>> No.8572116

>>8560045
Who will be the Pomu/Rosemi of wave 3?

>> No.8572168

>>8570471
>Constant APEX collabs
you mean the ones that Aqua doesn't do because she already averages 15k-20k viewers per livestream so she gets nothing from leeching?

>> No.8572289

>>8572116
The dumb one?

>> No.8572340

>>8572116
quick! to the cancer ward!
>>8572168
yeah there's reason Aqua doesn't do APEX anymore and this ain't it
it wasn't reason she didn't collab APEX before either.
Towa, Choco, Roboco, Matsuri - all collab APEX with smaller chuubas.

>> No.8572406

>>8572289
The underrated best girl

>> No.8572506

>>8572340
I don't watch those collabs because I don't watch Apex in general but I like seeing them be open to that
>>8572406
Judging by design alone Ghost or Valk have the biggest chances.

>> No.8572719

>>8572340
it's very convenient that the apex holo with the highest numbers doesn't collab with outsiders. This is why holoID is my favourite branch, they don't have the numberfag mentality of EN or schizos of JP.

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>>8572719
Aqua is not only a schizo, she's full on autist and menhera. Find better target for your numberfagging bait next time because this one fits your rrat exceptionally badly.
https://files.catbox.moe/x2axs1.webm

>> No.8573020

>>8572506
Lyrica is the only one who can do the valkyrie justice. If it's not her, she's doomed to fall behind

>> No.8573047

>>8562121
Ironically possible answer
Then again some of NijiID livers can't speak japan

>> No.8573301

>>8562251
T.numberfag

>> No.8574920

>>8560045
>promotion not even up
>lineup already doxxes
This is what I like to see. I hate surprises because surprised that fail to live up to the hype only end in disappointment.

With that said, I'm completely apathetic.

>> No.8577465

>>8569836
If she was then why graduate? But it is true her timing doesn't make sense either way

>> No.8577942

>>8574920
Well the thing is people figured out that EN2 will debut around Halloween because of what's been said by the EN girls already and the designs all being halloween-like theming. 2 months is the same time frame that happened with all of the current ENs too. Hana is admittedly a bit of a coin-toss though but >>8570247 seems to imply one of them may've already been casted/finalized before it happened.

>> No.8578470

>>8560045
>Lyrica Valkyrie
>Shannon kyuubi
>Marie witch
>Hana ghost
That's my guess's. Maybe swap Lyrica and Marie depending on which one is going to be the "main" one

>> No.8578543

>>8560045
Euphie's gonna be in.

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I like NijiEN but I wish there was a proper titty monster

>> No.8579111

>>8578470
/vt/ is going to hate Marie if she gets in

>> No.8579203

>>8578543
I hope not

>> No.8579268

>>8578662
I'm hoping that Elira gets buffed with an alternative costume or her 3D model

>> No.8579287

>>8578662
there is?

>> No.8579417

>>8579111
Holoboard will hate any non-Holo.

>> No.8579481

>>8579111
They will hate Lyrica and Shannon for being flips. And worse of all NIJISANJI!!!

>> No.8579603

>>8578470
It will be Lyrica as the leader no doubt. She is the most experienced of them all and has the personality too.

>> No.8579697

>>8573020
This. Lyrica as Valk is kino.

>> No.8579751

>>8579481
They will hate Marie for being a spic AND an Apex addict. What a fucking combo

>> No.8579791

>>8579481
>want the rushia virus retards
no thanks.

>> No.8579967

>>8579481
They will hate everything non holo and then when they tire themeselves about that they'll return to hit on Ollie, Kiara, Mori, etc. They think they like Hololive, but they don't

>> No.8580023

What are the chances of a holo vsinger part 2 in the next months?
No auds announcement this time, just release an extra girl

>> No.8580103

>>8579967
And if you guys are any better. There have been multiple posts in this thread trying to say that IRyS can't sing. Imagine that. Just pure insanity.

>> No.8580126

Such better designs than Hololive gen 2. Hope they dont change any of them.

>> No.8580471

>>8580103
>Hating everything non holo and then holos
>Hating holos but thinking that everyone else is aight
Yes, exactly the same

>> No.8580680

>>8580023
For hololive EN? It seems unlikely. The only two official vsingers are Irys and azki. I think it really depends on how things work out with Irys. If you just want to be a vsinger in a big corporation nijisanji can fit that bill, yumeoi, ryuushen and even Levi do pretty much the same thing that Azki and Irys does and regularly put out covers and original songs
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-_4ze9jVHOH18cO2OjXJApIMv1E-hE8S

>> No.8581637

>>8567971
> Tsunderia
> seiso idol image
???

>> No.8581734

>>8581637
Hanabi is seiso!

>> No.8581831

>>8580126
Same. I already have ideas for lewd fanart for each of them and I'll be upset if I can't draw those ideas

>> No.8582447

>>8581734
According to Mio, she's the most freaky deaky of all of them

>> No.8582506

>>8560045
I fucking love NijicunnyEN

>> No.8583263

>>8560045
I only know about the other three vaguely, but Lyrica getting in is great and I can't wait for her to flourish in NijiEN.

>> No.8583891

>>8560045
I'm tired of female only niji en. It's bringing in all the mentally ill holo fags. For fucks sake get some chads in already.

>> No.8584251

>>8583891
Gotta have to wait until next year for that mate, blame Nijisanji's management for being cowards and falling for the "The west doesn't want males" shit.
But hey, there's still ID, KR and JP in the meantime, you have been doing your reps, right anon?

>> No.8584439

>>8583891
>>8584251
Newfags Niji literally announced male EN auditions on the same tweet and will arrive a month or so after the females.
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1405706837660295173

>> No.8584573

>>8583891
anycolor unironically wants the holoEN audience with nijiEN. it's the only explanation for these picks

>> No.8584879

>>8583891
>>8584251
>>8584439
>>8584573
Seeing that every single NijiEN so far as well as the strongest candidates for wave 3 all had previous lives as vtubers, it seems like they're just picking up every worthwhile indie and startup member they can, and the lack of males is just the result of the fact that there's NO worthwhile male ENvtubers.

We probably won't get dudes until they start looking into nobodies.

>> No.8585828

>>8584439
Anon, I know that, but those auditions ended at the start of this month and only a few days ago they seemed like they started to go to the next phase, and wave 3 is expected to debut in October, which is still a month away, so chances are we won't get males until at least January of next year, since it doesn't seem like they are even halfway through the process.
Add to that that, like >>8584879 said, the male indie scene, which is where Anycolor seems to be focusing their search, doesn't seem to have many interesting or good candidated (certainly not of the level of the female members we have gotten and are speculated to get) and the fact that Anycolor seems to be looking for people that had/have a moderate to big amount of success and audience and connections to the existing talents and the chances that the males will debut this year become smaller and smaller.

>> No.8586141

>>8585828
NTA but you both underestimate the talent in the western male indie circles and overestimate the amount of popularity NijiEN scouts from. There is male indies with 10k+ views. Decent singers, entertainers etc. Don't feel like listing them because arguments always start over their quality but personally - I do feel there is some corporate quality gems out there. And as for popularity - Finana had less than 1k subscribers when she was scouted. The male wave will be fine and released on schedule.

>> No.8586256

>>8586141
>10k+ views
Followers.

>> No.8586605

>>8563948
Dropping my whole money for Ghost Marie

>> No.8586838

>>8570247
Another thread was talking about Marie's numbers, talent and connections making her the best option for that precasted role. It was either Marie or Lyrica.

hana is way less known than the whole possible roaster of girls.

>> No.8587206

>>8564036
hell no

>> No.8587525

>>8578470
Someone was saying in the other niji thread that Marie was way too loud gremlin and sometimes toxic gamer to fit in a loli character, and based on the other connections and numbers she would probably be ghost

I actually agree with that

>> No.8587610

>>8579603
who the fuck cares who the leader is lol

>> No.8587649

>>8587610
Who's even the leader of Gen 1 and 2?

>> No.8587715

>>8579111
they literally hate everyone
someone was already hating her numbers were "too big for nijisanji" so she should go to holo or she was shit or something

holobronies are something

>> No.8587791

>>8586141
True, to be honest I'm just trying to temper my expectations due to years of getting burned because I didn't keep them in check, better to underestimate and be pleasently surprised than overestimate and get a punch to the gut.
That and I honestly haven't stumbled upon too many interesting or outstanding indies, even though I'm sure there are some hidden stars out there (hence why I said that it seemed like there were no good indie males) but again, I rather not get my hopes out since there is no guaratee that those even bothered to audition, so yeah, I rather keep my expectations low and expect them until end of the year-begginning of next year, than lose sleep waiting for them to appear this year.
Besides, remember that Obsydia and Lazulight were from the same audition and Obsydia debuted months after Lazulight, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same happenned with wave 3 and 4.

>> No.8587823

>>8587715
They can't even like Hololive talents, they always find someone from each gen to be the hated one. I pity the fans of the new HoloEn chosen to be the target of /vt/'s hate

>> No.8587856

>>8586605
>>8586838
>>8587525
Please no. I don't want Marie at all, Nijifans will treat her the same way holofans treat chikim

>> No.8587949

>>8587649
the girls all love each other and nobody wants a "leader" (which is why i love niji)
that dude is just a lyrica schizo commenting the same thing all over again in all niji threads lol

>> No.8588067

>>8587856
how exactly? chikim and marie are way too different in personality and in public

>> No.8588150

>>8588067
Loud foreigner

>> No.8588454

>>8588150
Chikim's voice is fucking annoying and Marie isnt as loud as Chikim trust me

chikim's numberfag loud attitude is in a whole level and marie ironically isn't even a numberfag despite having the biggest numbers of the roaster

>> No.8588775

>>8588454
Also nijifans aren't the same as fucking annoying holofags
this board was already welcoming all the girls pretty happily

>> No.8588972

>>8560045
im going poor if these girls actually get in
Nijisanji is hitting a homerun with them

>> No.8588975

>>8588454
Which one is Chikim

>> No.8589050

>>8588975
Nobody in the roaster is chikim
if you meant who we're talking about Hololive's kiara

>> No.8589125

>>8589050
Ah I don't watch her but sometimes I think people here shit on her too hard

>> No.8589224

>>8589125
holofags hate their own girls
they're a whole different world compared to nijisanji fans

>> No.8589246

>>8589125
They do. She would be better of in NijiEN or HoloJP.

>> No.8589311

>>8573047
But they speak English and Indo. Moona doesn't speak Japanese either but is top subbed in HoloID.

>> No.8589363

>>8589125
they do. You're on 4chan though, don't let it get to you. The portion of vtuber fans that this board represents is miniscule. Most if not everyone here is lonely and will remain lonely until they die. This is not the place for healthy conversation. If you are into shitposting and arguing with spergs though, welcome to paradise.

>> No.8589411

>>8562251
>They hated him, for he spoke the truth

>> No.8589710

>>8584879
So Niji is copying Hololive's strat of poaching good talent and making them theirs.

>> No.8589890

>>8589710
Literally any company out there does audition to grab the best talents
are you autistic or do you hate your EN2 already and wish these girls were them instead?

>> No.8589913

>>8588150
To an American like me, Ollie, Kiara, Rushia and Subaru are loud foreigners. It's Kiara's personality that annoys people. Very narcissistic combined with Euro autism makes her come across as an uncaring bitch sometimes.

>> No.8589979

>>8560192
I imagine the breeding tier sex with Ina would be insane because of her flatness. I apply this same logic to catwitch and whatever the far left is

>> No.8590105

>>8560192
FLAT JUSTICE

>> No.8590169

>>8589890
I don't really care either way. I think the rivalry and hate for the other company is dumb. I watch both but I watch more Holos than Nijis though I watch the ENs mostly in Nijisanji and JPs in Hololive.

>> No.8590200

>>8589979
ghost

>> No.8590352

>>8589913
Rushia is only loud when she screams. Deron or Roberu would be a better example as they are both loud as fuck.

>> No.8590465

>>8587856
No we wont. We love our loud girls like Deron.

>> No.8592997

>>8587525
Yeah I could see them swapping those two too. I'm at least confident about Lyrica being the valkyrie

>> No.8593824

>>8578662
>NijiEN but I wish there was a proper titty monster
thats for JP branch not EN

>> No.8593908

>>8578662
What if Elira and Selen are both titty monsters under their outfits?

>> No.8594278

>>8590352
But kansai people are funny as hell

>> No.8594738

>>8569898
>No collab with Nijien is so weird considering how HoloJP really doesn't seem to have a problem with collabing with NijiJP
Not really, holo has regular collab with niji on daily basis when they were literally who in Japan, and even collab with male indies but looking at it now, you only see they only collab with top niji like Sasaki or Toko, they basically ghosted all of the males and indies. If it isn't management who blocked them then all of these girls are bitchy as fuck

>> No.8594877

>>8560879
>>8562233
woooow nepotism hires...

>> No.8595087

>>8568216
unironically, the chance to it be MarieFD is fucking high as she is a niji fangirl on twitter lately and there's nothing about hololive so you can say she didn't audition for holoEN, and she abandoned a 8 years old channel with 100k subs so it can only be nijiEN at this point

>> No.8595223

>>8594877
that's legitimate practice in companies: it's always more reliable to have existing employee bring in someone they trust (and hold them accountable for mishaps) than to hire a rando off the street

I work in US company and I get like $900 in case my acquaintance gets through interview and gets employed. I've done this twice.

>> No.8595366

>>8594278
Kansai is best Japan.

>> No.8595419
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dear Hololive fans, thanks for taking the not so good girls, especially Shachi.

We will treat Hana nicely :)

>> No.8595454

>>8595087
Lyrica opened her memberships this month, ans joked about working as an intern at Nijisanji. I think they both are locks.

>> No.8595516

>>8594877
nepotism is everywhere at some degree
lyrica is friends with pomu and Elira
Shannon is close to Lyrica
Marie is close to Petra, was a mutual with Elira, close to Bao and Euphie (main nijisanji artist) and apparently has connections to jp

if they all became friends is because it worked, they're all funny, know how to handle an audience, and have talent
you wont get the role if you only say "Elira is my friend"

>> No.8595642

>>8595516
it was a joke, lad
Hololive is getting shit too for ""nepotism hires"" when almost all of the best talents in both Hololive and Nijisanji were brought in due to personal connections or referrals from current members

>> No.8595926

>>8595642
Its almost like hiring talent friends is a good idea, who would have thought?

>> No.8596627

>>8595419
to be honest the chance of her be in nijiEN is 50/50, the timing of her graduation is odd but when any talent from a middle size like Prism, Kawaii, Tsunderia retires, the logical choice is they only go up in the ladder, and there're only three companies above them. It's niji, vshoujo and hololive. Vshoujo just announced audition lately so they are out, she isn't holoEN2 so they are out as well, remaining only niji with the nearest audition to her graduation date. So it's either she retired for good or join nijiEN
Also I think her voice is fitting well for the ghost or cunny witch, a deadpan loli would make me diamond

>> No.8596726

>>8596627
ghost was apparently recerved/precasted for someone "bigger" so she's out
I still think witch is perfect for her

>> No.8597666

>>8560045
I wouldn't be surprised to hear if mint/nova/lyrica all applied for NijiEN together originally but lyrica didn't make it and got through on her second try.
It'd explain why Pomu/Elira didn't do a collab with her or plan on, people would recognise her voice on debut and it'd be impossible to hide roommate shit. If they did collab it'd hurt her chances.

rrat

>> No.8598383

>>8597666
It could also make sense that Lyrica passed auditions and was agreed upon entering at a later Niji wave cus the current avatars didnt fit her and so the ghost girl was made for her. So essentially she'd be a delayed wave 1 debut.

>> No.8598428

>>8560045
CUTE
TINY
WITCH
CUTE
WITCH
TINY

>> No.8598615

>>8590465
Marie's voice sounds similar to that deer girl that NijiEN collabs with sometimes (Haruka is her name, I think?). Every time time she collabs with the NijiENs the thread is full of people complaining about her voice and how loud she is

>> No.8598682

>>8598428
Man, the threads are gonna be terrible after she debuts

>> No.8599875

>>8598615
her voice sounds nothing like hers lol
also when people say shes loud they mean she screams a lot but not scream talking all the time like haruka
marie is actually cute

>> No.8601285

>>8598615
not really, Haruka is obnoxious because she doesn't let other talking, Marie isn't that type

>> No.8601439

>>8598682
Not any worse than after Petra

>> No.8601780

>>8599875
>>8601285
Well, you guys seem to know her better than I do, so I gotta ask, why do people call her a clown? I watched the only available video of her (the graduation video) and her whole chat was calling her a clown as if it's some sort of running joke. Does she do funny shit on stream normally?

>> No.8602391

>>8579111
Take your meds schizo

>> No.8602514

>>8560045
Give the angel black wings and make her goth

>> No.8602584

>>8601780
yeah, she has the kind of attitude that lets you mess with her / bully her with love as if she was your girlfriend kind of vibe?
she laughs at herself too (not a tryhard at games)
and when she fails (usually extra as fuck) shes loud. Overall she just makes you laugh a lot. Pretty loveable in my opinion

>> No.8603495

>>8579481
Shannon is Chinese though?

>> No.8604080

>>8602514
Based. There's not enough goth chuubas

>> No.8604152

>>8603495
Pinoy always claim popular person as their kind

>> No.8605784

>>8560045
Okay I get that's a witch, ghost, and a kitsune. What is that other thing?

>> No.8605858

>>8605784
>>8602514
Oh it's an angel nvm

>> No.8605889

>>8605784
Angel or maybe a Valkyrie

>> No.8606397

>>8605784
Official names are Ghost of Darkness, Cat of Darkness, Bird of Light and Fox of Light

>> No.8607668

>>8606397
that means 2 diff duets and one pair debuts a little later

>> No.8607993

>>8587823
sana's got the biggest target on her right now for the bad model, but my money's on the rat or ceres for second place.
>>8560045
these look great, i'm really excited for EN3, even if it's not these four
>>8589363
strangely, the niji threads are usually super chill, minus the occasionally falseflagger or holobronie trying to stir shit

>> No.8608329

>>8596627
I always thought Vshojo was more of a loose collective of prexisting chuubas than an actual organization
guess that shows how little I care

>> No.8608381

>>8607668
I doubt that's the case, the audition teaser on the official site was named "wave 3", implying they're all in the same group. BUT if they do split them up, we'll get the Darkness ones first since Halloween is coming up

>> No.8608676

>>8608381
the main reason i think they will split them is cus of the songs. 2 duets is nice but 4 girls singing in one song is a clusterfuck ie HoloEN Country Roads

>> No.8608829

>>8608676
>4 girls singing in one song is a clusterfuck ie HoloEN Country Roads
Nah, it's because holoEN shit at singing and Cover shit at music production

>> No.8608923

>>8608676
>4 girls singing in one song is a clusterfuck
Ehh, idol groups do it all the time. Yeah I know nijis aren't idols but still.

>> No.8608924

>>8568104
>Most of them are very very recent
Tsunderia is older than HoloEN

>> No.8609299

>>8560045
Don't care about women, where are the fucking men.

>> No.8609537

>>8581637
Yeah Miori really turned up the freaky on her personality recently. Not sure how well that'll work for her, but it seems more honest so I hope it doesn't turn too many people off. And Purin is corrupted as fuck too. Everyone else in the company is startlingly innocent though

>> No.8610048

>>8609299
they're supposedly the fourth gen so they'll debut around 2-3 months after gen 3

>> No.8611211

>>8562121
>all better singers than Irys
I wish I could compare but these girls don't have any karaoke streams available on youtube. IRyS's A Whole New World is way better than Hana's though.

>> No.8613770

>>8560045
CUNNYCHADS LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

>> No.8614937

>>8613770
You guys are starting to make me hope that design won't make it in

>> No.8615032

>>8606397
> Ghost of Darkness, Cat of Darkness, Bird of Light and Fox of Light
Wait I get it, NijiEN is literally MTG
>ghost and cat are black, bird and fox are white
>Pomu and Rosemi are green
>Finana and Petra are blue
>The dragons are red

>> No.8617880
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8617880

Not much of a proof of anything but how many EN chuubas use Mito reaction images?

>> No.8617952

>>8617880
nah, that's too much of reach

>> No.8618097

>>8617880
almost none, it's not a reach at all

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8618103

>>8615032
Wrong NijiEn is not MTG but Wixoss. Which is pretty much weeb anime MTG. Also Wixoss indeed did collab with Nijisanji many time. So prepare to buy Wixoss deck.
https://wixoss.fandom.com/wiki/Nijisanji_(TCG)

>> No.8618122

>>8617952
Well, I'm not saying that she is definitely in because she knows who fucking Iinchou is but I'd say her having Mito gifs saved increases the chance a little bit. It's a speculah thread so it's all about possibilities and likely/unlikely.

>> No.8618384

>>8618103
When will she stream?

>> No.8618782

>>8611211
Streams are mostly deleted but you can find MarieFD, Lyrica, and Shannon's covers pretty easily, as well as clips from Hana Flores' karaoke streams.

Shannon has shown up on both of Mori Calliope's remix contest winners' streams. Hana is allegedly professionally-taught and I wouldn't be surprised if Shannon was too.

Haven't done my reps on Lyrica and Marie but what I've heard makes me feel like, if these 4 are our Wave 3, then Nijisanji have scouted some of the best singers available.

>> No.8619135

>>8594877
>nepotism
have you fuckers never once heard of "having connections"?

>> No.8619476

>>8569577
I checked the application form, there's clearly a unit theme for these four but there's also an option to submit as a different character, maybe put any outstanding candidates for future waves.

>> No.8619505

>>8594738
>literally who in Japan
You mean Hololive right?

>> No.8619616

>>8579111
I mean the board is already seething with the ones that have BF’s in Hololive. It Can’t be any worse than that.

>> No.8619692

>>8580103
>Irys can’t sing
Pretty sure people just call her boring but I see why you wouldn’t want to bring that one up.

>> No.8619761

>>8584251
>falling for the “west doesn’t want males shit”
But they’re literally the only ones doing a specific male audition going by your logic that makes everyone else cowards. This isn’t a “if you are a male you can apply” they are specifically looking for them. Hololive literally has a male group and hasn’t done a specific audition for En versions of them at all.

>> No.8619774

>>8569577
>>8606397
They will release in unit theme so I dout those designs are placce holder

>> No.8619796

>>8590352
KANSAI LOVE

>> No.8619884

>>8608676
Pretty sure country roads problem was adding Ame, Ina, and Kiara to the song

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>>8560045
Ghost=Marie
Witch=Hana
Angel=Lyrica
Kitsune=Marie
That's my bet

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>> No.8620495

>>8608329
They were, until they announced auditions the other week

>> No.8620579

>>8620495
I mean Froot and Hime exist both were already on the internet streaming. Also audition definitely doesn’t mean they won’t just be adding someone instead of creating a new Vtuber.

>> No.8622864

>>8620456
if there's no more middle size indie/small company's vtuber retire in the next few weeks then we can safely confirm four of them are in

>> No.8623874

>>8620020
Marie for both characters?

>> No.8624896

>>8595419
Wait whose soul is Shachi?

>> No.8624982

>>8624896
Mumei

>> No.8625021

>>8560045
Why couldn't the deer be Flores bros

>> No.8625061

>>8625021
Not close enough to Ina.

>> No.8625143

>>8625021
Cover likes numbers, sorry. Thank for the girl tho, I will treat her nicely :))

>> No.8625160

>>8625021
Cover are numberfags.

>> No.8625315

>>8625021
Just my personal opinion but I think she would fit better with the current Nijien than with the Hololive girls, might change that impression with HoloEN2, so her being NijiEN3 works well with me

>> No.8625521

>>8560045
>3 flatties in NijiEN 3
>no flatties in HoloEN 2
I am now a Nijibro.

>> No.8625622

>>8624982
I did think she was Shachi too but man I'm dumb at voice recognizing, thanks for the confirmation.

>> No.8625851 [DELETED] 

Lauren is funny dude ngl

>> No.8626026

>>8560045
If Hana's in, hope she's not the witch. she's uggo

>> No.8628820

>>8626026
>she's uggo
?

>> No.8634426

>>8622864
agreed

>> No.8635461

Are there any Kawaiifags who can confirm if their talents are involved in designing the characters or are casted for premades?

>> No.8636126

>>8625315
You're right, for some reason, they chose pretty poor candidates for HoloEN2. Who knows their reasoning.

>> No.8638741

>>8625021
This is my honest opinion and not to harp on Hololive but I honestly think Hololive only looks at sub count/views and nothing else. Like it Pokimane applied to Hololive I bet you she would be the first pick.

>> No.8638785

>>8635461
premades

>> No.8640500

>>8594738
Fubuki still collab with males and indies, especially for her TTRPG sessions, so you are probably just not looking at the right Holos

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