/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

who?

whoot

literally who?

No bf plz

>>8528418
He said the thing.

>>8528418
fuck off, printer-kun.

I forgot who i was

>>8528291
Who(re)

>>8528402
kek
love it

>>8528418
Its not her, unironically. Not even a cope. ITs not her,

>>8528291
She cute. I am ready for her streams

How long till she 'forgets' she's an idol?
Oh, wait, used goods, I forgot.

How could anyone bully this face?

>>8528560
I keep hearing this, but I'm not deaf.
Unless people are

>>8528560
>containment breachers just bullied some random indie who has a similar pitch to mumei and reopened old wounds of her ex
>containment breachers just bullied mumei and probably scared off her JOP audience cause theyll get it spoonfed to them by bilinguals

>>8528582
Imagining it plastered in cum?
That knowledge will always be in the back of some fags minds and cause them to view her through that lens.

Actual opsec training for new talents when?

>>8528291
she posted here ??

>>8528597
you really are deaf, I'm sorry

>>8528683
>some random indie
Hardly random and you know it.
and good for the nips, better than learning later

>>8528683
containment breachers are scum

>>8528560

>>8528683
Basically this more or less.
>>8528563
https://vocaroo.com/1htrIVsxHMDn

>>8528291
OH FUCK WHERE ARE YOUR HANDS

>>8528560
Switching back and forth between 2 streams right, It's nigh identical, you fags are the actual deaf ones.
As if it was just the voice anyway.

>>8528871
>All these SEA and spics who think all white girls sound the same
Its a night and day difference

>>8528942
They don't care. They just wanna be shitheads for kicks

>>8528291
Cant wait when owlcucks turn into the new teamates deluding themselves that they love her and she loves them all the while her bf fucks her everynight
Yea and it isnt (you)

>>8528942
>one clip that has exaggerated sounds
Compare them in casual streams.

>>8529024
I wanna laugh at retards thinking they'll protect some 'poor' bird who's already got somebody to do that for her.

>>8529126
I literally could care less if she has a bf. I just think you'd have to be an actual psychopath to bully someone as cute as her.

>>8529137
Trust me its not just for the sake of "protect birb" I genuinely don't think they're the same.
Im unironically a schizo when it comes to chubbas with current bfs which is why I can't watch fauna

>>8529024
Largely yeah, I don't give a shit if she's getting trains ran on her, but certain fags get really concerned to the point of burying their heads in the sand.
And you spread it enough, it never fully fades despite what they claim.

>>8529266
you poor soul. may you take your meds one day

>>8528683
funny if true

>is a twappi fan
It all makes sense now.

>>8529266
Fauna is waiting for you with open arms and your schizophrenia medication, anon.

>>8529126
Isn't it funny how the faggot pushing this rrat keeps timelooping back to other debunked rrats?

>>8528936
Are you ESL?
There really isn't anything else. It's time to stop pushing this dead rrat.

>>8530309

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when we get a drawing stream, or matching pc specs, that are decisive proof.
The coping has only just begun

i have a lot of friends here that also into cuckoldry why bully?

>>8531199
>The drawings will be completely different, to the point where its square vs circle
>People are going to say they're the same regardless

>>8531199
>he thinks that PC would stutter on 720p
ESLchama... you're embarrassing yourself.

>>8531199
I'm waiting for the inevitable Apex stream. If it is her, her gameplay will show it.

>>8531426
This girl's potato probably can't even boot Apex and OBS at the same time.

>>8531329
With multiple other processes, yeah that's reasonable.

Really though, those so ardent it isn't her are more retarded than those who do, this didn't appear for no reason, you just personally think the voice is a bit different and ignore the myriad other coincidences.

But now it's just a waiting game, it'll be clarified one way or another before long.

>>8528683
>>8528597
>>8528830
>>8528560
Suggestion - someone, eventually when you can, SC to ask her if she has any pets.

>>8528936

Its a smokescreen from delusial owl whiteknights in denial. Dont fall for it.

>>8531561
>ignore the myriad other coincidences.
Except there aren't any. Literally nothing lines up.

>>8531426
how good is "she" in the game?

>>8532011
Holy ESL

>>8532011
>whiteknights
And now they reveal themselves. Yeah I think we can put this firmly in the debunked pile.

>>8528560
Nobody else in the entire world says John Denver is their favourite singer

Just watched some of the random indie's videos, they literally sound nothing alike, what the fuck is wrong with you schizos?

>>8532152
Farmer gura would

>debuts
>myriad recognise voice, are excited for her
>has bf
>not at all her
You look pathetic.

Answer me this, why lock the account instead of outright saying "not me" ?

>>8532083
She was decent enough get kills on her own, at least from the little I've seen. I heard she played it a lot so the muscle memory will show.

>>8532304
People would still say its her and that she just "had to keep it under wraps"
Why did kiara bother to edit her irl stream to cut out when she mentioned being kiara?

>>8532152
Goorah...

>>8532304
>random weird asses start harassing you on twitter
>block and delete them
>exponentially more show up
Wow that's like a totally normal reaction.

>>8532417
>people are mistaking you for somebody else
>correct them ?
>no
>do what will make more believe

>>8532357
It would have diminished the belief greatly, and your logic is backwards, that's why it would be. believed, they cut out slip ups, not outright deny them.

i don't care if it's HER or not, the debut stream and schedule are really boring, i'll follow her if she improves in the future but for now she's my "no one else is on" Holo like Mori

>>8532524
>say your not her
>people keep harassing you
Now what?

>>8528560
>Graduates several months prior with no explanation
>Commissions SleepyBunsu for her MV
>Has tiny bladder
>Identical voice, plus nerves, minus dolphin laugh
>Educational streams
>Crippling social anxiety

It's her, you can either accept it and cope, or cry and get out.

>>8532610
Surely you have proof of any of that?

>>8532610
>Crippling social anxiety
that's just a fucking cope to relate to the fucking otaku, if she really was she would be a crazy cat lady like Kiara or Gura

>>8532610
Same with hana flores and look how that turned out. Nowhere, thats where

>>8532610
>Has tiny bladder
uoh sticky piston her please

>>8532610
I bet you were swearing the Nijipenguin was her a month ago. You're just obsessed with this person.

>>8532570
So you're just making shit up now
>lots of people wouldn't take a direct refusal
She could easily have thrown up a clip or timestamp when owl was live to unequivocally confirm.

>but some will still
Again, it would greatly diminish it, and not denying accusations but runimg and hiding, is. and always will be suspicious

>>8532667
As it turns out, people watched her, hence why people noticed, it's just you denialfags who only saw owl that keep burying your heads.

>>8532766
>She could easily
T. anon who doesn't understand women.

>>8532752
everyone has since EN1, HER should just retire completely cause she will always be considered the "NEXT GURA" and be harassed by unicorns

>>8532766
>I watched her trust me bro, well not me but "people"
ogey

>>8532766
You do know you can automate uploads, right? What does throwing up something when Owl was streaming even do?

>>8532789
She's been online long enough to know the response she's get.
Doesn't refute it being suspicious, indicative behaviour either, just another proposal.

>>8532667
Exactly which part are you having trouble believing?

>>8532674
Shachi made several twitter posts talking about being hesitant to approach others for collabs, and when she did collab she tended not to talk much if there were two or more other people involved.

Also, she's more of a dog person.

>>8532864
hey look, here's me talking over owls livestream
simple, there's a myriad ways that don't involve suspicious behaviour

>>8532610
OK, let's move goal posts to fancy your schizofrenia. She broke up with her BF almost a year ago. Now what you filthy Rrats.

>>8532752
On the contrary, don't think I've ever seen a single Niji stream.

Uh, oh. Who could be behind such posts? Surely not an assblasted faggot.

>>8532963
lol you got to be kidding me if this boring hoot is going to be another Amelia situation

Bros you don't understand how bad I miss the pre debut threads... back when everyone was still huffing hopium, before it became this absolute cesspool

>>8529126

I never donated to any chuuba before, so whether she has a bf or not matters little if her streams are good.

>>8533000
I honestly don't even think it's the same person, just dramaniggers with a vendetta against this indie who have been trying to push this meme for months.

>>8532610
>Crippling social anxiety.
Clearly not crippling enough.

>>8532963
Personally I don't give a shit. She can suck every dick available for all I care.

>>8531580
did s**** had notable pets?

>>8533049
I get that heck some people thought that indie Aria was haachama but even if it is HER that shit would be hilarious if it was just another Ame situation. History loops itself for girls that had similar names in the past

>>8533012
Stay strong anon, a few months from now this shit will blow over.

>>8533000
So now she's a boring Amelia eh? Fine, I'll take RCT2 Amelia, but good to know your retarded Rrat on her still having a Bf, even if there is proof that they broke up, is nothing more than that, a baseless Rrat.

>>8533030
Similar boat but there's just something about those pulling the overly innocent act while such stuff is known that annoys me.
I have no issue if they're upfront, I still watch HanaKana radios after her marriage.
Either actually purge your old content and go all in, ala Lamy, or just act a bit more normal, she's no fauna sure, but she is clearly pandering with the dementia act for concernfags.

>>8533094
She has a cute dog.

>>8533079
Don't give Rrats more ammo anon

>>8533000
There's no proof other than some broken heart emojis, it's pure cope that amounts to
>there's nothing but a breakup that could make a woman sad
Frankly the lack of anything else seems to indicate it was something minor.

>>8533012
It was either s***** or h*** with one outcome being heaven and the other hell.

>>8533251
>There is no proof besides
That's real mighty coming from a Rrat like you. Rules for thee but not for me eh fag?

>>8533197

That kind of duplicity is annoying indeed

But yeah, Ill give her a chance at least.

Blogpost but all of EN1 aside from Ina I have found lately to be annoying so lets see if my patience with Mumei will last longer or shorter.

>>8533204
boy dog or girl dog?
having a bf might be the least of worries

>>8528291
She commented in gura's stream. I like her. Simple as that

>>8533204
Imagine the Rrats poisoned bodies when she reveals on stream that she has a cat.

>>8533297
Whataboutism, care to refute anything said?

>>8533330
Your attempts are obvious faggot.
To anyone else, check the vocaroo comparing the two, she has a cat, it's audible mewing in the background.

>>8533145
Don't worry, I will be here to remind owlcucks, spacecucks and naturecucks of their cucked existence for all eternity.

>>8533330
You fool don't you realize? She completely changed her voice, taste in anime and games, nuked her twitch account, smashed her PC and shot her dog just to trick you, but didn't think to private her twitter account.

what's with the obsession to shachi anyway

>>8532610
Don't think it's her but can you tell us more about that person? Just to be double sure etc, looks like you're an old fan

>>8533428
>she has a dog
>no no no she has a cat!
Fucking hilarious, you Rrats are beyond pathetic.

>>8532766
That's a lot of work for something she doesn't even need to prove. At the end of the day it doesn't affect her one way or another if people think she's the owl. This is just assuming it IS her in the first place.

>>8533441
Cuck fetishist like you have been infesting the site for years, though, so nothing will be different.

>>8533461
Retards assume every indie who quits streaming got hired by corporate, and their cuck angle sent them into overdrive.

>>8533197
Hopefully once she gets more comfortable streaming in Holo, maybe she would just drop that kayfabe.

Hopefully.

>>8533079
no one care about your cuck fetish.
>>8528871
yup, same meow. Case closed.

>>8533452
She did nuke her twitch though, a number of tastes are similar, and she also has a cat.

>>8533527
>a lot of work
It would take a minute tops
>she doesn't even need to prove
But felt concerned enough to hide, surely a minutes work to escape that isn't hard?

>>8533499
>I can't actually look anything up
https://vocaroo.com/1htrIVsxHMDn
Literal demonstrable proof in the second part, you just look retarded and seem to assume every poster is the same person.

>>8533492
This. Tell us more about sachi or whatever her fucking name is anon. Her likes, dislikes, favorite games, personality, pets, music taste etc. Let's see just how much time you wasted watching an indie with a Bf.

>>8533673
It's going to be funny as fuck when none of it matches Mumei

>>8533441
space is clean, besides why be an anti towards owl? Sure no one wanted HER we all dreaded Cover would pick her just because she sounded like Gura but Fauna is more malicious cause she's the one pushing for GFE

>>8533645
Fine, she's gonna admit on stream she has a dog, or better yet, fuck everyone and say she has a parrot. Then what you stupid Rrat?

>>8533673
You may be barking up the wrong tree trying to infer hypocrisy.
Some have already said they're just looking to laugh at those in denial and don't personally mind a bf.

>>8533743
There would have to be actually proof for anyone to be in denial

>>8533197
Retarded womanchild got tricked into having sex more easily, what's so hard to understand. She's not faking with her content if so, great then. Why do you want them to be upfront about it and tell their one night stand stories.

>>8533731
Are you faggots really at the point where you are just making up fantasies of your idol proving all those nasty rrats wrong?
Fucking hell, that's sad.

>its just le troll bro haha

How could I bully best Intoner
(here I would post image of Four from Drakengard 3, but fucking range ban)

>>8533729
No whores allowed, simple as.

>>8533803
>she's not faking
So you think she has actual dementia?

>>8533492
She draws cute art, she has a cute singing voice, although she wasn't able to sing much due to her living conditions, so she's a bit out of practice I think. She's also obsessed with whales, though I don't think that's very likely to come up in her current incarnation.

Also, she isn't kidding when she says she didn't play much Minecraft. I think she streamed it maybe twice on Youtube, and I don't think she made it much past dirt house level.

>>8533846
HER never pushed for parasocial relationships so why would Owl do the same? Fauna however is literally aiming for GFE while asking for her viewers wallets, she's the one that's a whore

>>8533880
this isn't anything you couldn't already find on youtube

>>8533880
It's especially unlikely to come up since they aren't actually the same person.

>>8533729
Because Owlfags haven't bent the knee. Fauna fags have little to oppose, they are few, they got completely run over by the Rrats and just accepted their fate. There is no point in kicking a dead body. But the Owl? Her fans are still kicking, still fighitn Rrats, still denying its her. At this point one might even say fauna fag's strategy is better, since if any evidence in their favor ever comes up, they will've btfo the Rrats without fighting, while Owlfags will waste time fighting Rrats until more evidence comes in their favor.

>>8533898
Nature's the worst manipulative whore of the bunch, true. Doesn't change the fact that the others are also whores.

>>8533846
Nothing wrong with whores. Have sex beta incel faggot

>>8533880
>living conditions
Can you elaborate?
>obsessed with whales
Fucking autism

>>8533898
>why
Dunno, but her actions are/will attract them by pulling the protective instincts as is readily noticeable.
It's like those careworkers that pretend to be nice to old people to get into their wills.

>>8533942
Humanity does its best when its struggling to survive. Its when it does its best innovation and thinking.
Civilization was born to crusade. Rrats shall not be allowed to cause plague until they get bored. They will be systematically conquered and assimilated into the /who/

This is the return of NEET posting. EN2 really brought back the good old days.

>>8533977
You have to go back.

>>8533975
I get that but why not just leave her alone? Even Kiara said that these girls have to understand that there will be schizos and that they work with a japanese company that has restrictions they might not like so they have to go thicker skin, just let her be unless she fucks up for real on stream but if you're going to be a unicorn at least take the idolfag spirit and go against someone like Fauna, she's genuinlly a manipulator going after her viewer's hearts and wallets

>>8533813
I mean if you fags started at such low points like believing they are the same person based on voices sounding similar, why can't I partake in the same kind of speculative what aboutisms?

>>8533926
If you have a specific question feel free to ask it, but vtubers tend to not talk about their personal lives much, for clearly obvious reasons.

>>8534005
And people say the rratfags are delusional, they're just having some fun, not defending some random online personality and coming up with shit like this.

>>8533729
>space is clean
What? Last I know they had definitive proof on twitter that she went to Japan on a trip with her bf

>>8534088
do you suggest its not fun to LARP?

>>8528560
i will become an anti if owl cucks keep parroting this

>>8534104
No space is a confirmed lesbo

>>8534109
>spoiler
It can be but I don't think those defending a woman online for hours are just LARPing.

>>8534148
Than hurry up and start becoming one. It is not her, it will never be her

>>8534148
Well it isn't so you better start hearing voices and foaming at the mouth.

>>8534104
WTF INA IS A HE!?

>>8534104
space was a fake edit, she's bi leaning towards dyke like Gura

>>8534172
And I don't think attacking one for hours is either.

>>8534185
>he lacks the critical information

>>8534175
This is what I mean by delusional
>it never will be
It only came about because it's a reasonable possibility, complete denial is literal blind faith.

>>8534088
>Rrats are just having fun
>defending rrats
Last time I saw this faggotry was in the ID threads, no wonder it appears again here. You seafags never get tired do you?

>>8533990
I believe she was renting a lower floor or basement, and was uncomfortable about having the people upstairs hearing her sing. She rarely did Karaoke streams, and was frequently asking for soundproofing tips.

Honestly, i don't really care either way if she has a bf. I just want to know if it is her or not. The amount of info that is for it and against it is interesting.

>>8534222
Why would I be larping an 'attack' (with no attack against her btw) I'm just drunk and making occasional shitposts while watching stuff.

>>8534265
>Nobody except SEAmonkeys can speculate on something.
What?

>>8534175
If it wasn’t her, then who is it?
Every single EN2 had presence in the vtubing realm even if small.

>>8534318
this is honestly another Aria/Haachama situation, who knows who the heck it is but if management says she sounds like Gura it wouldn't surprise me if it really is HER cause we know EN wanted another Gura

>>8534053
It's the true idolCHAD unicorn way. Casuals and normalfags gtfo of my hobby and go watch some facecam tittystreamer 3dpd ho on twitch.

>>8534378
The "another gura" is the rrat. That was the point.
They wouldn't make such a calming and plain-girl design for Gura2.0

>>8528291
You fked yourself with that AMA thread

>>8533975
>nature is the worst
>but the bulk of our Rrats go to the Owl
So the question is why? And the answer is what I said before, because her fans keep kicking the Rrats. They keep denying the Rrats. And this angers the Rrats. Fauna fans are dead in the water, it's not fun attacking something that doesn't fight back. Further proof that Rrats are discord niggers.

>>8534378
>another Gura
sounds like the rat

People who claim it's not her are absolutely insane. I don't care if she has a bf because I'm not interested in watching her, but if she gets along well with the rest of EN I'll be okay with her.

>>8534378
>EN wanted
Pretty much, she vanishes online and is one of the top possible contenders Cover would kill for.
It would be strange for it not to be the case.

>>8534424
ok schizo whatever you say. I'm totally not Mumei by the way

>>8534053
>using kiara as an example when she opsecs the shit out of her other life
lol until the day Cover abandons japanese money Idolbros will always win

>>8528291
Not only is she a whore, she's full blown retarded

>>8534367
It makes sense even, look at the time. Their afternoon shit posting hours. Impressive honestly seanig Rrats are still alive after being btfo so much.

>>8528291
*uses a printer*

>>8534435
>if you enjoy annoying fags who give reactions you are dicksword
That's pretty commonplace behaviour, you think every bully worldwide is a discordfag?

>>8534534
no, do go around sharing my thread, that's totally not cool anon

>>8533012
I can’t believe how big a fucking deal it is to these psychos that Mumei or any of the Holos has a boyfriend. They’re entertainers. Here to provide a show for us. This one sided love affair is mental illness in full display. How long until a Holo is murdered by one of them. Just for having a intimate life. It’s pathetic.

>>8534537
Some of us work nightshift, or are lazy neets retard.
>btfo so much
Crying "no it doesn't" is hardly some amazing. act.

>>8534571
No, but Rrats that rely on doxxfags are 100% either seanigs, discord niggers, or both.

>>8533012
I’m guessing you weren’t around for Ameli’s debut.

>>8534057
>low points
No one is ever going to outright name their past life. Voices are distinct and the best and most common way to find past lives

>>8534635
>How long until a Holo is murdered by one of them
well, not really murdered but..

>>8534716
you really think a bunch of SEA schizos along with a few white ones are going to harass this girl into graduation? They are weak compared to JP schizos

>>8534716
why she looks fat

Does the guy have a name or online presence? I want to bring back NEETposting.

>>8534758
she's pregnant with our daughter

>>8534635
>I can’t believe how big a fucking deal it is to these psychos that Mumei or any of the Holos has a boyfriend.
Indeed, they should just accept it and enjoy her regardless. Why not rewatch her debut instead of erroneously defending her lack of bf.

>>8534645
>doxxxxxxxxxxxx
Faggot, and there's none of that ITT, just stuff she publicised as a online personality.

>>8534637
You seanigs have been btfo from all of holoens previous Rrats. Hell even when you try to make a Rrats based on Kiara you still get btfo by her doing some other dumb shit. You only had any semblance of succeed with ID because seafags are retarded, but even then months have passed and nothing came out of your Rrats. Do the world a favor and hang yourself, that is if you shitty zinc roofs can withstand your weight.

>>8534800
>I'm not mad

>>8534716
Jp schizos make the most mental schizos here look like babies in comparison

>>8534710
>voices are distinct
Go outside, seriously leave your fucking room more often than once a month you imbecil.

>>8534821
>I'm not a seanig

>>8534800
I'm gonna take up posting during seanig hours just to drive your obsession further.
You faggots have no right to call anybody schizo when you see seamonkeys everywhere.

>muh posting hours
Also apply to you, retard.

i just think she's cute and i hope for the best in her future.

>>8534846
Am I seriously going to have to argue with delusional owlcucks that every human being has a distinct, unique voice? Is this real life? Yes, chuubas tend to alter their voice for roles sometimes, but it's still the easiest and most surefire way 5o identify someone.

why do you keep insisting its shachi anyway
why are you so fucking obsessed with her

>>8534874
>Nobody among a few billion people can laugh at retards concernfagging
I'm a britbong, imagine a foul enemy all you like, just because seanigs are subhuman doesn't mean the person laughing at you is your boogieman.

>im a britbong trust me bro
>she's shachi trust me bro

>>8534800
You cannot btfo anything. Just because a fanbase collectively buries their head in the sand and sticks their fingers in their ears doesn't make the truth less true. Condomates and chumcucks will be cucks for eternity, as will owlcucks and naturecucks.

>>8535020
Why are you so obsessed with defending her.
The age old adage of just ignore trolls is true. Those who want a rise out of someone will always exist, and so do those who get uppity when somebody insults the fuck they've put on a pedestal.
Think i'd be here if people didn't give a fuck, you think I annoy people who like Tamaki, of course not.

>>8535027
>>8535073
>>8534954
>>8534912
All this (you) s, maybe I judged Rrats too harshly, you are right, this is fun!

>>8534635
I don't understand people like you just running around telling a very big part of the chubba fanbase "bro just stop falling in love bro its just and actor bro touch grass bro"
These people exist, they will not go away, there is no grass to touch.
And perhaps I am one of them

Having a bf takes some of her attention away from the people she entertains. If she has a fight with the bf it affects her streams. If the bf is really good and provides her with everything she needs her interactions with the chat changes completely. If she's having a rough day she doesn't vent herself to the chat, she does it to the bf. She becomes a hollow shell of a person on camera, because her real self is preoccupied.

Remember, this isn't an actor in a movie playing a 100% different character like Ryan Gosling. We can identify with Gosling in blade runner despite him having been married before irl because the CHARACTER is completely different, in a different situation, and is played believably WITHOUT any aspect of Goslings real life within it.
We can watch an anime girl and not care about the voice actor because the anime girl is a separate entity herself. Personality, world, character, feelings, everything is not the voice actor.
Same way you can read a manga without thinking about the author going "yeah then ill make her super cute this is totally gonna bring in the cash"

The problem with chubbas is that it blurs the line between "person" and "entertainer". These people are sharing with you their REAL experiences and their REAL life woes and happiness and REAL life videogame experience. All while having a bullshit kayfabe most of them don't even stick to.
As such the word "actor" or "entertainer" applies less and to MANY PEOPLE the word "friend" applies more. And then to some, Girlfriend, hence the GFE.
If you have a friend that is constantly pre-occupied with her bf to the point where you are secondary, or worse "just somebody I work with" any feelings are GONE. And I don't mean romantic necessarily. The same feelings you WOULD have had for an actor in character or an anime girl in a show are ALSO gone. It just becomes "some girl doing her job to make money" with no emotion whatsoever. Aka, why people hate twitch thots and call them fake whores.

No amount of telling people to take meds will solve this problem. Its on a fundamental emotional level and some people will have this whether you like it or not. And yes, some people have it to such a degree they will actually murder a chubba some day. Remember Christian Gimmie on Youtube ZeldaxLove64. Was murdered when she became famous by somebody who loved her. And she didn't even have a bf.

>>8535020
This >>8532989 is why anon. It's literally a mad discordfag that got btfo by her before and now believes she's everywhere.

>>8535212
This anon gets it. How is it that a fucking Goslin understands human emotions better than some in this thread?

>>8534635
if people just wanted to be entertained they would be watching fellow men and not some anime bitch

>>8535419
Found the faggot

>>8535212
People forget too that Cover is, in it's own words is an idol project.
They actively, and passively encourage parasocial relationships while not discouraging certain behaviour (some do, but few holos).

Look up some seiyuu apology vids, they don't apologise for having partners, but for not telling fans.
Faggots can claim whatever they like, but if you are investing so much time into a girl and her interests, fears, etc, you care about her.

Why is it so difficult to either go full in, ala Lamy, or just not join an idol company.

>>8535212
>Having a bf takes some of her attention away from the people she entertains. If she has a fight with the bf it affects her streams. If the bf is really good and provides her with everything she needs her interactions with the chat changes completely. If she's having a rough day she doesn't vent herself to the chat, she does it to the bf. She becomes a hollow shell of a person on camera, because her real self is preoccupied.

Yeah, okay. I'm thinking if you had to guess which Holos had an SO just from the quality of their content it would be significantly less accurate than a coin flip.

>>8535212
Name your oshi faggot

>>8535212
Sure, but why not just not support her, instead of sperging out all over the board for days on end?

>>8535562
>oni
Levels of content output and age would leave that fairly accurate, ignoring the >everyone fags of course.

>>8535600
That's on the same level as
>just be happy bro

>>8535496
thanks for proving my point, watching streamers is a sexual thing apparently

>>8535212
Bro, the reason people tell you to touch grass or take meds is because this mindset is extremely unhealthy. You don't get to control someone else's life just because they are an entertainer you enjoy. You're also not entitled to learn whatever you can about their personal lives. That is legitimate mental illness. It's also obsessive and creepy. Don't get yourself so wrapped up in entertainers, anon.

>>8535527
But anon, this also works against the Rrat. If Hololive is an Idol Company, they must've made sure she did a good info bleach. After the fiasco that was Aloe, they surely make sure all their holos make a good tweeter cleanup before debuting no?

>>8535527
Jesus nobody cares you faggot kill yourself

>>8533682
The truth of the matter is, even speaking as huge idolfag, is that it's totally okay to see them as entertainers. Both Fauna and Mumei will probably have great streams, and do some great collabs, I personally think Fauna and Gura will make an unexpected great duo.

You just have to know where to draw the line, they will never be GFE, that door is shut, and that's fine. People who do view them as GFE are extremely foolish, but what can you do? You can view them as entertainers, and never superchat/member them.

>>8535600
>Sure, but why not just not support her
If the feelings are gone the will to support is also gone. Its the same as saying "bro who cares?". Thats the problem, people will stop caring about the chubba and stop supporting her.

>>8535588
Haachama. But it wouldn't matter. Even people who oshi ame do it for the same reasons, because she USED to have a bf, not has one currently.

>>8535693
You can argue all you want about how unhealthy it is. But unless you're willing to say a good quarter or third of people who watch chubbas are mentally ill, everything I posted is things people genuinely believe.
I try to understand what is going on and why people feel as they do. And then realized I feel the same way to a lesser extent.

>>8535661
Based on your observations, which Hololive members would you say have recently had a change in relationship status based solely on the quantity or quality of their output?

Nan its your own fault for coming here and reading the doxx threads

>>8535693
Actually, Thought of another thing. Do you know how matsuri is menhera? How she admits she has trouble telling the difference between a friend and a relationship? LOTS of people have this issue just not as bad as her. And many of them watch chubbas.

That's honestly a TL:DR of the gosling post from another angle
>>8535212

>>8535748
Good god you make me ashamed to also be a haaton.

>>8535693
Blackpill enough unicorns like this and you are going to put hololive and most GFE chuubas out of business anon.
The business thrives on escapism and that only works so long as you can suspend disbelief. If you want someone to blame that would be hololive for not scouring and protecting social media of their talents properly.

>>8535834
This.
Its the fact that there are a LOT of unicorns, to the point where the word "unicorn" can't apply because they aren't rare and make up a big chunk of Akasupas

>>8535748
If your argument is that most people are pathetic idiots, then yes, I would agree with that.

>>8535766
This.

>>8535748
>Its the same as saying "bro who cares?"
No, it isn't. I'm not denying your reasoning or saying you should take it any other way. Don't support her, enjoy other entertainers, there are more than enough in Hololive alone that you couldn't follow everyone.
All I'm wondering is why it needs constant sperging out. But I suppose in hindsight that's just to be expected with 4chan.

>>8535693
> You're also not entitled to learn whatever you can about their personal lives.
I am though, ones dislike of it is irrelevant of the the will and ability of others.

>>8535713
By that logic the confirmed shit like fauna would be gone, they are an idol company, but also incompetent.

>>8535737
You clearly do.

>>8535759
>you don't obsess over every single holos change in personality ergo you can't tell
Look at Tamaki's interviews post marriage (even those before it was announced) much less flirting.
There's a bunch of 'hiatus for personal reasons' and such that fit the bill.
Even if you can't tell, the effects occur regardless, it affects stability.

>>8535834
Or their inability to teach opsec.
It's not an issue of what they do, but what fags know they do.

Any of the girls could have boyfriends that we don't know about and therefore I've decided the simplest solution is to only watch male vtubers from now on.

>>8536030
They're all gay though and also have boyfriends

>>8535944
>All I'm wondering is why it needs constant sperging out.
Im sperging because there are people who post this >>8534635
and have no clue why people act the way they do and think that going outside and playing catch with their dad one day will suddenly turn them into people who don't post on 4chan. Im offering a perspective and its just met with the same "if you went outside you'll think just like me so you must be crazy" as a reply kek

>>8535957
How long was Tamaki in a relationship before being married?

Frankly, I think you're fabricating an issue to justify your unhealthy social attitudes towards people you don't know.

>>8535815
Menhera means Mental Health, and it's slang to refer to people who need mental health care. Your post would indicate that lots of people are just as in need of mental health care as Matsuri. That's absolutely true. For example, the US National Institute of Mental Health indicates that 1-in-5 adults in the US have some kind of mental illness. Just because a number of people feel that way does not mean it's healthy behavior. It's not all severe, but people still need some kind of care. Mental Health care includes: therapy, meds, and things that improve wellness, like going outside and disconnecting from the internet cesspool. ie touch grass, take meds, get laid etc. It's annoying when people just spam that shit, but they do it out of annoyance at how obtuse some people are to their own skewed perspective.

>>8536165
>Fabricating an issue
Its a business model anon, if it was fabricated then other holos would disclose their relationships to the public in random zatsudans, but they dont.

>>8536262
It's true, I know I'm always telling random lunatics on the internet about my personal relationships.

>>8536058
Doesn't matter because I'm not gay. They could be sucking 10 dicks a day and I wouldn't give a shit.

>>8536325
What is the point in discussing if you're not going to do it in good faith?

She's 100% HER, I don't doubt it for a millisecond. That being said I don't get why she is so nervous since she's used to streaming and having a decent size following.

HoloEN2 is DOA to me, not because of any schizo par asocial crap, they're just not entertaining enough to pull me away from the main branch.
>Sane: fine I guess, timezones make her clash with JP too much
>Kronii: no
>Mumei: no substance and all jitters
>Hackos: Will be streaming against JP where I have many more options that I prefer
>Ceres: I know her type and that isn't my type, persona non grata
Maybe I will find someone I like in HoloEN 3.

>>8536030
Just watch those who aren't retarded narcissists with 5 twitters narrating their daily life.

It's like complaining if some CGDCT anime had some J.K Rowling tier rewrites.
>Ah yes, this K-ON secretly whored around
Nobody want's that, just keep it hidden.

>>8536165
A few months, I don't remember exactly
>I think you're
You address nothing said and just repeat your beliefs.
They know what they are getting into and the market they are attracting, is the bare minimum of opsec so much to ask?

>>8536258
>the US National Institute of Mental Health indicates that 1-in-5 adults in the US have some kind of mental illness
20% of a population being crazy is society-destroying levels of illness even if it was mostly minor. I have a feeling this is some sort of rrat the gov is pushing if its real. No god damn way do you expect that many people to seek therapy or meds.

>>8536325
alright anon, you can play the retard all you want. Its not like some people enjoy casual talk including their social status and relationships. Not a big deal at all in most scenarios.

>>8536410
Isn't US Society breaking down in real-time though?

>>8536465
Fair enough point anon.

I shouldn’t have read this thread…
At least I still have the rat, r-right?

>>8536376
Pretty much, hell I've enough issues with my 2 favourites streaming at the same time.

>>8536410
>I feel a bit sad doc give me meds
Not all at once, it likely accounts for just at some point in their life, possibly even just self reported, so every teen girl.
Though >>8536465 is right, as was uncle ted.


>>8536447
It's funny to see those watching zatsudans discussing intimate issues pretend they don't care. Needless online bravado.

>>8536556
>At least I still have the rat
kek

all of you fucking retarded GFE mouthbreathers need to cancel your internet service

>>8536401
Honestly I'm not even sure what your point is. Should Cover require their talent to maintain a single relationship status?

>>8536645
yeah, i mean it's basically just playing games and getting tons of cash for a few years or only a year till your contract is up.

>>8536645
Cover should absolutely require at the bare minimum a deleting of social media that mentions relationships if they won't go the "stay single route", because Idk if thats even legal

>>8536645
No, they should hire schizos that foolproof their talents social media before debut.

>>8536661
In that case, we have nothing more to discuss. That idea is so ludicrous there's no way the discussion can move past it.

>>8536683
But the argument has been presented that being in a relationship will affect the content itself, whether or not it is disclosed.

>>8536499
kek, owlgirl has a lot of work to do

>>8536634
And sycophants don't?

>>8536645
Are you illiterate, I said as much
>teach them basic opsec
Is it so confusing for you than upon joining an idol company you should perhaps hide posts about your bf.
Plenty of others manage it fine, and there's none of this drama, a much better result.

>>8536755
Correct. But a good enough actor can still make Cover money. So it has to be kept under wraps. And again. The legal-ability of "Stay single while you work" is dubious so cover would have to settle for "shut the absolute fuck up and delete your old social media"

Not talking about my enjoyment about single chubbas > bf chubbas, but about what cover should do about it.

I SAID NO BULLY

>>8536785
It honestly is childsplay when compared to vanilla idol opsec now that i think about it. Cover really sucks ass at talent management.

>>8536570
where's my cute unabomber chuuba Cover?

>>8536820

>>8536785
funny how this "drama" only exist here

>>8536847
Here is the only place you can complain without getting downvoted to hell or banned.
Reddit is "good vibes only" the website.

>>8536847
Discussion is different in places with low moderation...
Plus westerners are much less accustomed to the idol culture of Japan.

>>8536814
Really, especially when you've had shit like Mel, they have months too, and there's tools to make it easier now.
Little effort for a massive bonus.

>>8536847
No it isn't, look how Towa's numbers were more than decimated for instance.
It's just more readily visible.

>>8533942
The problem with owlfags is that they still think the rrats do it for her. But it has always been about the rrats and not the fauni.

We never faught at all. Even when we had nothing left to oppose them and it was plain as day to everyone that they were doing fauna harm, we still said not to do it. That's because we actually thought it was done by people outside fauna and we wanted to keep the fauna intact. And since, by definition, they were people (who were either human or fauni) our only option was to oppose the rrats themselves.

But, even though we think that we fought the Rrats and not fauna fag's the people who are doing it seem to think otherwise.

>>8536820
>>8536835
kek, I was gonna post this one

>>8536785
I agree that it's better to scrub relationship info as much as possible.

I don't agree that relationship negatively affects the content in a meaningful way, it only affects how it's perceived. Everyone in Holo EN could get a boyfriend or girlfriend right now, and I don't think anyone would notice until it was disclosed, at which point everyone would show up with their "It was obvious the whole time." hindsight vision.

>>8536973
yeah, absolutely devastated her subs

>debut
>hope everyone enjoys it
>checks /vt/
>everyone thinks you're sachi
>there's nothing you can do about the rrats
There's no point in disproving it anyway since antis ignore all proofs against it and just really do it for drama.

>>8537092
Post a clip talking over her livestream
Simple.

>>8537092
Honestly if she was million subs sachi why hasn't the fans migrated? It would become next Gura and blow past her gen-mates. Why would clock be beating her? Thats the ultimate rrat killer.
>inb4 she had dead subs
So did gura

>>8537092
she would've also heard everyone calling her debut boring

>>8537131
Who, sachi? Why would she even bother?
Mumei? Why would she even go her way for that when it's only a couple of schizos on /vt/ who really cares? It's all gonna disappear anyway when the new hip rrat appears.

>get shachi to become gura 2.0
>not put her into gura 2.0 design(rat)
>put her in the boring owl instead

>>8537212
>why bother
To remove, or greatly reduce, an issue that caused you to protect your account for minimal effort.
I swear can people not even read the thread they post in?

>everyone thinks its shachi
>its actually gura's nepotism hire

>>8532963
>She broke up with her BF almost a year ago
>The infamous tweet was from 6 months ago

>>8537320
honestly Fauna does with how much she gushes over her, gura also had a tendency to fall in love with manipulators

>>8537273
>spend time waiting for her streams which may not even be on her timezone, just to satisfy schizos
>lock twitter account
I wonder which is easier?

>>8537320
>not shachi
She acts a lot like her, just wait until she brings up whales and >we know for sure it’s her.

>>8537438
Either that or she goes out of her way to never talk about whales.

>>8537438
>everyone soft and cute-sounding is sachi

>>8537411
>exacerbate issues with suspicious behaviour
They spread to her other account, and not addressing it is delaying the issue, people will still comment, that's why Noel had to remove the ability to comment on certain vids.

Really, is holding your phone at a monitor and saying a line (or any such equivalent) soo difficult?
You are entering sycophantic tiers of defence.

>>8537250
you never watched shachi ? she was boring and dull like this back then
no way she would fit for "chaos"

>>8537580
If Shachi wasn't Mumei, she'd have no reason to put in any effort into proving that she's not Mumei. What are people gonna do, leave a comment on the one video she posted on Youtube this year?

>>8537580
>ignores the part where you have to wait for the streams, and then upload it while the stream is going just to satisfy dramaniggers
The only issue for her really is seanig twittersschizos, so just block that and no problem. Why would she even care about Mumei's reputation? They're not even friends.

>>8528291
whore

>>8537748
This post was so fucking stupid I have to reply to it.
>They aren't the same person because the girl isn't actively going out of her way to disprove something to people attacking her
Do you seriously think, that if they were the same person, she would come out and try to disprove theories about her? You have lost your god damned mind.

>>8537748
Schizos did leave a comment on a pic of a sushi date from 2019

>>8537571
I watched her a lot of her streams as an indie and she has the same low energy and autistic way of talking. Her final stream was a recap test on whales that she’d been talking about in earlier streams. If it’s not her I’ll eat my hat.

>>8537929
>everyone low energy and autistic is sachi
Ready that hat and extra meds

>>8537929
wtf ina is sachi?

>>8537886
No, I'm saying that whether Shachi is a separate person, or just pretending to be a separate person, releasing a "proof" video makes no sense in either case.

>>8537929
??? bro they're not the same at all. i have them both on my screen right now and they're talking yo each other.

>>8537900
On what platform?

>>8538100
twatter

>>8538086
This image also confirms Mumble is a different person from Shachi.

>>8538109
Well, it seems like she's already fixed that problem.

>>8537748
>what are people gonna do
She cared enough to run and hide

>>8537750
>just block
yet she hid
Really, imma count it out.
>44 seconds
I could pull out my phone, point it at a screen, and say a few words before hitting record and saying a few lines and get to the upload button. Such a small filesize would take no time at all.

>>8537886
If you have genuinely retired and want nothing to do with vtubing anymore, why not simply end it, it clearly annoys her, so end it.

>>8535748
>But unless you're willing to say a good quarter or third of people who watch chubbas are mentally ill
Not him but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this was the case.

>>8538207
>Idiots shit up her twitter
>She prevents idiots from shitting up her twitter

There was a problem, now there's not. I'm not seeing the issue.

>>8538207
>she cared enough to run and hide
She simply blocked her twitter, that's all the effort she really needs.
>still ignoring that she has to take effort in following Mumei and wait for the streams which could be in a god-awful timezone just to satisfy twitter dramaniggers she doesn't even care about
This is just getting sad

I don't think i've ever seen so much drama around boy friends here before. Is it tourists shitting up the board with their schizo whinging?

>>8538207
>*places phone in front me*
>*starts recording*
>"Hey schizos, it's me NotMumei"
>"Why am I recording this? "
>"To serve these faggots delusions, of course, as I am a person with no self-worth."
>"I'm sure these little shits will leave me after watching this."
>*ends recording*
>*fags doubles down anyway*
Damn dude, 100% realistic reaction to creepy schizos shitting up your twitter randomly.

>>8538399
There were schizos thinking that Petra was going to be HER. They got assmad they were wrong, and now they're doubling down since there appears to be more substance this time around. It doesn't help that yesz the board is full of even more tourists than usual due to EN2 releases.

>>8538399
Nope, all the schizos here are locals.

>>8538399
It's dramafags enjoying the new rrat and that seaschizo who hates sachi and is trying to hunt her down.

>>8535562
Funny enough having Festival’s content lately and the hand incident, it kinda comes together. She’s reclining so hard because of the incident and before that her content was kinda stale.

Omegaα is Sachi

>>8538715
That's just silly

Omegaα is obviously Senzawa.

>>8538444
That's how you know you're talking to a schizo. They really think they're that important. This board needs to be purged of seanigger unicorns.

>>8538399
how new

>>8538757
I miss senzawa...

>>8537158
This. I find it weird that she is still not racing to 1m after debut. Gura had an explosive growth shortly after her debut that snowballed to millions. I don't give a shit about past lives btw, I care about the numbers.

GFEfags deserve whatever comes to them.

>>8528291
Literally the most lazy and the less competent of the bunch after Fauna, but she will still do fine because of all the saviorfags and "she's so awkward and autistic, just like me..."

>>8539228
Alright enjoy the saviour fag goslings having a meltdown like that time Pomu revealed she munched on a carpet in the past

Why doesn't this happen with Amelia too? Curious what makes her goslings different?

>>8539326
Already left

>>8539326
We only cae about the hot new rrat

>>8539326
Because they've been there and done that and it's all an archived memory now, this is fresh

JWU, how did the quality of this thread drop so far compared to the last one?

Let's say she has a boyfriend. Isn't it only a problem *if* she's deliberately peddling GFE for financial gain? Like, "Join my membership to experience ASMR where I am nibble your ear and tell you I love you"?
If you claim you don't see these women as girlfriend substitutes, then why are you worried about looking like a cuck? If you're just watching to be entertained by streamers?
Just don't donate. It's that simple. Then you won't feel like you're being scammed, because it's literally free content.

i hope these GFE faggots realize how sad and pathetic they look like to other people.

>>8534635
I genuinely thought someone might do Kiara in. I'm glad it didn't happen so far and won't happen at this point as long as she keeps her gachis happy.

>>8539721
These types don't care. Any association with a male of any sort outside of their chat is enough to put them in a frenzy and harass these girls incessantly until they move on to the next target.

>>8539721
There are three components to me disliking a chuuba in a relationship. If not at least two of those are fulfilled, it's cool in my book.

- Wrong target audience.
If you are pandering to lonely males and offer them a GFE while being in a relationship. To a way lesser extent this also holds true if you join Hololive at all instead of another, less Idol-focused corporation.
- Lack of professionalism/OpSec
If some hardcore autists have to dig deep or find nothing at all, then you did fine(Like with Gura). I don't care if you have a relationship and keep it secret properly while doing your thing(GFE). You did your best to not ruin the immersion of the parasocial relationship, like a professional geisha/Mistress(Which you basically are) would do. If that's not the case, then well, you either don't even respect your audience or don't even know what the fuck you're doing.
- Dishonesty
If you make your status clear, no one has the right to complain. If you omit it, well that's understandable. You are your own person, after all. If you blatantly lie about it now that's a problem.

Ceres fulfills two of my three strike(Target audience and lack of professionalism) criteria. That's really, really bad.

Mumei, at the moment, only one and a half.(lack of OpSec/Joining Hololive). This is at most a bit concerning. We don't know yet which market she wants to pander to.

And if she straight up tells she is in a relationship, then this isn't a problem with the chuuba, but more of a problem with the direction Hololive Production is taking(Not for everyone, just for the gachimarket)

>>8540475
people who are into GFE are massive fucking cuckolds regardless of whether the girl is in a relationship or not, and the viewercount can show you the exact number of people they're being cucked by. it's wild to me that they go crazy if the chuuba has a boyfriend, but they're completely fine with the fact she's doing the whole virtual girlfriend shtick to thousands of other people in real time.

>>8539721
Has a boyfriend and doesn't do GFE? That's the lowest tier. She'd have to be incredibly entertaining to make up for that.
If you're going to overlook the boyfriend anyway, may as well get your cute ASMR.

>>8540475
I get your point but why does this look like a reddit post?

>>8540475
>Mumei's lack of opsec
This is only true if the rrats are true. If not then she was just unlucky as fuck. Time will tell.

>>8540753
tourists that cant post on r/hololive all vent here

>>8540475
take your meds schizochama

I hope it's not nijiniggers responsible for all this shitposting.

>>8540903
There are niji who are mad that HER wasnt penguin.
But otherwise i like owl just like i enjoy rosemi.
Aka more than everyone else

>>8540691
lol, you feel cucked by someone watching the same stream you're watching? that's a little too insane.

>>8541089
personally I don't give a shit and the whole gfe thing disgusts me. I just find it insane that there are people who care whether the girl has a boyfriend AND enjoy gfe.

/vt/'s gonna be all over her after she gets her bearings in a month or two.

>>8540691
Yeah, people that like GFE are cuckolds. It's a big thing with them. You may want to have someone to cuckold with, but that doesn't mean they don't want to be able to see it, and/or be able to see it. In their mind their oshi isn't a "real girl", she's a fantasy. So it's the same as cuckolding. It's a fantasy. And people that do that want to be able to have that fantasy every once in a while. And if they can't have that fantasy, then they are actually having a fantasy with someone else.

They get off on just thinking about them, and not seeing them. They're really into it because they're able to think about them at the same time. So that's why cuckolding with a live person is a big thing. It's not so much the idea themselves that's being fulfilled. But watching them doing things where they're not seeing them.

>>8540903
Impossible, when have nijifriends ever done something like that?

I care not if the Owl has a relationship or not, those are just what normal people things do. If ever she may be the indie people are arguing about then her opsec reps are lacking and if not, then a bunch of angry people just mobbed a random indie. Still, I care not of such small triffles by the common plebe. If the Owl can entertain me then I will be happy.
and because I can't even develop a parasocial relationship because I'm tied into arranged marriage

>>8541512
That's rough, buddy. I hope she/he is pretty and/or interesting at least.

>>8541698
No need for such comforts. I'll try to at least make an actual genuine connection with her to make this affair a bit more legitimate. only for the sake of the clan (yes this kind of archaic stuff still unironically happens at least in minor "nobility") [/spoilers] Now we just wait for a month or two for the tourists and dramachasers become bored and leave the Owl.

>>8543042
Where from?