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This is the writing thread, for all things VTuber fanfiction. Our works cover a wide variety of different stories ranging from greentext shitposts, full-length adventure novels and smut that’s been tuned to capture (almost) every fantasy. You can check out the three years' worth of stories we’ve written in the archive below: https://script.google.com/macros/s/AKfycbxZVzygb0QjJ6hksAEYzCbLCegxsjhui97BB73qzPvU7GgJv6fXdAPmmIv6Qt9H5d5Fzg/exec

"Isn't this just you fuckers writing fanfiction?"
Yes.

Previous thread: >>84890380(Where we talked about Gigi. Because we are OBSESSED, and want her SOOOO BAD )
/wg/ rentry: https://rentry.org/wgrentry/

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STORY ANCHOR!

Danchou demands you link your fic to this NOW!

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STORY RECAP!

There was 1 story posted last thread. Yay! Check it out!


Ars Amatoria Vol. 2 : >>84953976
Tags: Murasaki Shion, Romance, Fluff, Fantasy, School life, Angst

>> No.85032007

>>85004976
reposting from last thread

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>>85032007
It looks fine, I have no taste for feet so I can't comment on that. Maybe cut back on the stuttering in Mori's dialogue, it makes her look more special needs than flustered. I personally wouldn't refer to Kronii as a Canuck either, cause while true it's not something that's readily apparent about her or relevant to the story in anyway, as well as switching between 'reaper' and 'shinigami' interchangeably. But you mentioned you were struggling with good epithets so I won't be harsh about that.

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The names Jyonathan and Gonathan G. are such ass names that it's making it really hard to write this

>> No.85034599

>>85034290
Ah, when the "character with a wacky/jokey name in a role play becomes a serious /key part of the story" effect. In the RP, the wacky name lost its luster so it can just be treated as a 'real name', meanwhile writing it out in prose just refreshes how fucking stupid the name was supposed to be.
...
I think the only thing you can't dodge here is Gonathan G, Ame regained her memories halfway through so you can just namedodge in narration until relevant, especially since the core of the tragedy is around that point anyway.
At least gonathan kinda looks like a whimsical fantasy name and not a mispelling.

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>> No.85037457

>>85034290
Yeah, you can just write Gonathan. If you wanna emphasize how bullshit it sounds, you could use quotation marks whenever it comes up. You could also use "that name," "that knight with the weird name," and all sorts of lampshade hangers

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I think enough time has passed for us to host/plan out our yearly writing contest.

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>> No.85038893

>>85037798
im down for it but i dont wanna host it. im terrible at reponsabilities

>> No.85039685

>>85038551
>seducing me with drills
Inshallah I will rape her

>> No.85040035

>>85039685
That's not very nice

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>>85030999
what if you fucked a slutty cosplayer at a con.
what if that slutty cosplayer's cosplay was very high quality.
what if the next stream from your oshi she talked about meeting a new friend

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>>85040391
this but it was another chuuba

>> No.85040978

>>85037798
I can host it, if our baker would be kind enough to add the story anchor in his threads.

What would a good time window for submitting stories be?

>> No.85041317

>>85040978
feel like a month is a good idea. also bleeds into october so you can have halloween themes

>> No.85041379

Having a bit of trouble starting up my next scene. I intend to time jump forward a bit from Anon gathering the courage to call a girl who gave him her number, but I'm not sure where the reasonable jumping on point would be to resume.
I was thinking about having it be them on a date, but it feels a bit far to jump. On the other hand I don't really want to spend all the time required talking about the necessary setup for something like that. Any advice?

>> No.85041653

>>85041379
i mean its hard to gauge context here. what exactly are you going for?

If its a nervous first date, as cliche as it is you can jump at the start of the preparations or the start of the date.

If its a nervous first date but only for one of them, you can jump straight into the date and use that to highlight how nervous that person is that everything is kind of going fast

think of what's the expected emotion and how it feels, then try and gauge what's a neat jumping point based on the context...or just jump right into it and go "man it sure went fast". You can imply a lot and not neccesarily show it as long as you do it sensibly

>> No.85042732

>>85041379
Just pick a point in time and start writing. When you start feeling "I should have started earlier/later" that's when you should consider switching.

>> No.85042761

>>85040541
Chubby Ui sexo

>> No.85043890

>>85034290
>Gonathan G
Actually thinking about it some more.
Not even on a meta level since this is something Gigi herself forgot (and noted in her chapter review): how the fuck are you dealing with the fact that Gigi and Gonathan is well... In-universe a persona an amnesiac isekaid Gigi is playing as?
Obviously for actual prose adaptations what happened in ENreco isn't going to be 1 to 1 but like how are you going a dress this if at all?
Because that would be an interesting detail to play around with.

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>had a dream
>flare was pinning me down
>she whispers im gonna fuck the racism out of you
>wake up before she can carry out her threat

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>>85044531
That was a close one brother, it's a good thing her evil plan didn't come to fruition. Just to be sure though you should cleanse your soul with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B65y2izbn0

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>>85045281
>Shouting 'Hulle weet nie wat ons weet nie' while fucking Marine who's role-playing as Flare

>> No.85045743

>>85044531
>>85045281
I WILL BE CURED OF MY ELFCISM! I HAVE WOODLANDS FEVER
https://youtu.be/PAUlCK8kuGU

>> No.85046080

>>85045281
dont reply to my post ever again you fucking boer

>> No.85046168

>>85041317
Give it a month, make the deadline the end of October, and we could have a fall/halloween theme as well.

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>>85046080
You're about 10000 km off there

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>mommy laplus
>child laplus

how about college friend laplus huh?

>> No.85046614

>>85044531
Thank you for giving me a new fetish

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>>85046584
college friend but she's smalland curvy

I LOVE SHORT WOMEN SO MUCH

>> No.85047602

>>85046584
I'm gonna be real, Lap should either be a flat womanlet or a 6+ft curvy demon mommy.

>> No.85048949

>>85047602
imagine if you will, being covered in sweaty lappys of all sizes

>> No.85049388

>>85048949
From 10cm to 2m?

>> No.85049542

>>85048949
>From a La+ that you can lift with one hand to one that's twice your size
>Visit the YMD Pit today for an unforgettable experience!

>> No.85050686

>>85048949
>Laplus has figured out the missing ingredient of all her plans for world conquest: Needs clones of herself
>Uses what demon power she has left to make a bunch of doppelgangers
>Since she's still sealed they're all kinda messed up
>One comes out looking normal (but is really dumb), one comes out 6 inches tall, the other one comes out 7 feet tall and very curvy, another one that's kinda fat ect.
>You already had enough problems being her top minion (tard wrangler) with just one Lap running around, will you be able to keep all these ones out of trouble?

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>>85052727
I wanna fondle Lapu's pert and cute butt

>> No.85054880 [DELETED] 

up

>> No.85054898

Live

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>>85053154
You're not ready for that yet. You'll have to be content with lightly scratching her toenail with your pinkie for now. After the initial 36 month apprenticeship period, we'll take a look at the possibility of slightly expanding your area of responsibility.

>> No.85055702

>>85049542
Thats a neat idea.
Holox is running short on funds and they open a fetish soapland with Koyori's experiments
>The ymd pit
>Pheromone room
>Iroha's training booth
>Koyo's joshification

>> No.85055807

>>85055702
What about Lui?

>> No.85056047

>>85043890
For me, Gonathan, Jyonathan, Tam Gandr, etc. were all "real people". With the mind wipe, the hologirls lost their memories and power, but kept their personalities and characteristics. Their new lives with their new names were not merely "personas" but actual "people" with their own thoughts and feelings. When the hologirls have their memories returned, the stronger beings (Calli, Kiara, CouncilRyS, and some others I haven't decided) are able to retain both sets of memories while the weaker ones (Amelia, Gigi, Gura, FWMC) lose their Libestal ones.

In my fic for Gigi specifically, Gonathan's persona was strong enough (due to his trials he endured) that he caused a schism in Gigi's soul, causing it to fracture.

>> No.85056147

>>85055807
Lui's room is just her waiting for blind date partners looking to start a family

>> No.85056516

>>85055807
She's the recepcionist and is bemoaning they couldnt come up with a fetish for her. She then realizes a lot of the ojiisans are indecisive and she just gives them thr traditional soapland experience

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>>85030999
Gigi fed up with her hags colleague hitting on you reach the conclusion it all can be solved with you locked up in her home

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>> No.85059868

>>85058074
>"Thanks for letting me stay at you house, Gigi. It's been getting stressful having to deal with all that groping and stuff from the girls."
"No problem! That's what friends are for, right?"
>"By the way, mind helping with something in the basement?"
>"Sure."
>As soon as you two enter the basement, Gigi secures all twenty locks...

>> No.85060479

>>85059868
>>85058074
Yandere or not, a Gigi that's your bro and "not like the other girls" while she's secretly really into you is a compelling idea.
You're gaming together on the couch, wearing sweatpants and baggy hoodies while munching on chips and bantering...but when you leave and she's alone in bed, she dreams of wearing a beautiful wedding dress and you princess carrying her over the doorstep.

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>Man I want to huff Gigi's spats
>Please give me Gigi virgin GF
>Bro gigi this
>Secretly yandere Gigi that
I just want to fucking exchange fists of fury with this girl to see whose ideals will be the ones history writes about.

>> No.85061609

>>85059868
>3 hours of reading aloud later, she's only on the 4th chapter of her Anon x Gigi Enemies to Lovers Coffeeshop AU fic

>> No.85061683

>>85061609
Reminds me of the Shiori concept where she tells you a fanfic as you're acting that fanfic out

>> No.85061875

>>85060758
Why not do the fist-exchanging and ideal-comparing and then huff her spats? They'll be so sweaty that you'll smell them anyway considering she has nothing underneath except a messy gremlin jungle

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>>85055702
>WARNING! Spending longer than 6 hours in the Orca Pheromone Chamber will have deleterious effects on both physical and mental health!
>Me on day 3 hallucinating and barely able to remember my own name

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>>85061875
You know, I walked into that one, so fine. Well played, you fucking huffer. You'll have your day.

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>>85030999
I need to be violated (brutally) by this Mumei

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>>85061683
Is that the one where reality changes to match her narration so she screws around to mess with you, cause I like that idea.
>"....and so, Anon lived happily ever after. The end. Oh yeah, it also says he gave Shiori 20 bucks, heh"
>"I'm pretty sure that's not in there."
>Next thing you know, you find yourself whipping out your wallet and handing her a 20 bucks you don't even remember having.
>She laughs, picking up another book
>"Oooh, I wonder what's in this one!"

>> No.85063182

>>85062147
There's something to huff for everyone! How about Polka's wet tail, during a nightly bath following an exhausting day?

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>>85030999
Nurse Kanata secretly put a small amount of toxins in your food to prolong your stay at least until she's sure you are hers I'm pretty sure there was a story like this in the anniversary contest tho

>> No.85063521

>>85061683
I have an idea for a Shiori fanfic where she's hopping through different fics trying to find the one she's looking for, only to incidentally be important unnamed side characters in each one. The ending being she gets fed up and the next one she lands in she kills the Shiori in that to replace her, only to then be stuck eternally in an unfinished WIP as the main heroine

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>>85063182
>Wet tail huffing
No way. What I will be open to doing is taking a subtle breath of her freshly cleaned and blow dried tail before I run a comb dipped in essential oils through it before bed.

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>>85030999
Azki geoguessr ing your house and where you put your spare key

>> No.85064168

>>85063896
Something like getting matched with azki in 1v1 geoguesser and every guess is a place closer to your house before the last guess is in your room?

>> No.85064236

>>85064168
https://youtu.be/_pkBDZ2DCvc

>> No.85064554

>>85064168
and then Google maps/geoguessr put "baby making room" in your location but when you realize it was too late

>> No.85064965

any futa wips?

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>>85030999
Being the sole protein supplier for Fauna until the unforeseeable future the only downside is you'll be dried every night

>> No.85065583

>>85064554
Hands shaking, you press the "Next Guess!" button in the bottom of the screen. The first location being in your state? Just a coincidence. The 2nd one being the main street in your small town? You weren't sure. But as the last location finished loading, you felt your stomach drop when you saw it. It was a google street view of your front door.
How had she figured it out? You always joked about how quickly AZKi could figure out the right answer in any geoguessing game from the slightest of clues, but to find your own address?? You mentally replayed the chat messages you two exchanged a few days ago, you never mentioned where you were from- the only thing you told her was your name. The heavy thuds of someone pounding on your door pulled you out of your thoughts. Slowly, you got out of your chair and peered down the hallway. The pounding continued, along with what sounded like faint giggling. In the windows next to the door frame, you saw a mop of brunette hair swaying back and forth. You didn't dare get closer, but there was no denying it: AZKi was at your door.

>> No.85066761

>>85065583
Oh fuck me, that's some good horror right there

>> No.85068616

>>85064975
>That's right anon.
>Keep crushing those beans.

>> No.85068645

>>85030901
snifffff

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>> No.85071444

>>85060479
I keep thinking about a Gigi confession, where she reluctantly says "I want you so bad..." in a tone like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbhCz_4bXzI

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>> No.85075440

>>85073500
I'm GAR for this manly mallard.

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>>85073500
Subaru is so unbelievably fuckable it's a tragedy we don't have any good smut featuring her

>> No.85079103

>>85063182
How about her crotch before the bath. Followed by
>>85063816

>> No.85079532

>>85077053
It's been in the works for a while, but since it's part of a longer story, i didn't want to release it outright

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what if you were Ina's male model and then had sex with her? as friends of course

>> No.85080788

>>85079809
>Ina dragging you into her pigsty room at 4am so she can see how a creampie glistens in the light of a computer monitor before kicking you back out

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DONT HAVE SEX WITH ANYONE! RIP OFF YOUR SKIN!

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>>85083203
Too late. Lmao.

>> No.85086452 [DELETED] 

up

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I've gone through about four versions of my Hololive X Fate script, I think I'm starting to cook a good plot, finally. There are still some small issues to resolve, and some things I'm hesitant to commit to, but this should turn out decently well.

Maybe if this turns out well enough, I'll throw it into VN style...but I'm trying not to get too ambitious here.

>> No.85088300

>>85087020
It's a bit of work, but I think combat can work in VN format and look cool. Comventional writing's flaw has always been in action stories.

>> No.85088349

>>85087020
You can always turn it into a VN later if the book version turns out okay

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no dying

>> No.85090322

>>85089910
I miss that brief moment in time when the Hololive girls would shove their feet in our faces every stream...

>> No.85090492

>>85025601
According to my autistic worldbuilding that only exists in my head, Tintagel and that area is more Anglo-Saxon but the closer you get to the capital the more Norman it gets. Cover is structured more like the Holy Roman Empire in its governance, generally speaking.
As for Shions problem with Miko as well as her other problems, this chapter was my attempt at incorporating "DepresShion" as a plot point. That is to say, many of her perceived issues with herself are all in her head. I'll keep this feedback in mind going forward though. Sounds like I didn't quite communicate that. Thanks for reading.

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>>85030999
Marrying and breeding your hag coworker for the tax benefits

>> No.85096491

>>85079809
>have sex with Ina as friends
>the next moment, you're being sacrificed to the Ancient Ones
Neato.

>> No.85097322

>>85093319
>boob belt
>without boobs

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>>85030999
Breaking up with Shiori

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>>85097322
Yammers' yammers are just the right size; they're pure perfection.
t. President of the World Boob Congress

>> No.85099600

>>85099311
>Shiori after breaking out of jail when she discovers the one who rratted her out to the cops was her boyfriend

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>> No.85101352

>>85099311
This but instead of her getting all menhera and yandere, she's just terminally depressed and overeating

>> No.85102690

>>85030999
Miko's attempting to seduce you.
You cannot understand what the hell she's saying. Then she beats you down and rapes you

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>>85102690
>tags
>Pekora POV

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>> No.85103551

>>85103505
why is she wearign a towel in the bath
is bae one of those never nudes

>> No.85103599

>>85103551
i think its implied to be an onsen

>> No.85103676

>>85103599
it's clearly a bathtub anon
you can see the tiling on the bathroom wall and both sides of the tub

>> No.85103746

>>85103676
Im triying to susped my disbelief considering that image can be posted and not result in a ban.

anyway bae owes me sex

>> No.85103812

>>85103676
You don't wear towels in a bathtub.

>> No.85103841
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>>85103746
same desu

>> No.85103850

>>85103812
yes which is why i questioned why she was wearing a towel in the bath
you've cottoned on to my reasoning, good job

>> No.85103896

>>85103850
Oh, my bad. I thought you had entirely dropped it or just thought they DO wear towels in a bathtub because that's what Japanese folk do, no>

>> No.85103913
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STOP ARGUING SEMANTICS! BUBBLES ARE POPPING! THAT RAT IS BEING BOILED ALIVE!

>> No.85103964

>>85103913
those damn kemonos always gotta do things different than us humans
today it's special earplugs, tomorrow it's bathing in boiling water to 'own the monkeys'

>> No.85104029
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>>85103964
we'll talk about the socioeconomic factors of kemono's other day, for now hand me the bucket

>> No.85104113

Why are novelites so weird man

>> No.85104203

>>85104113
exposure to raw shiorium has mutated themalso that fanbase has a lot of women that find shiori cool so they are beyond saving

>> No.85104212
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>>85103599
>>85103812
And you don't wear towels while bathing in the onsen either. As for what you should do in the onsen: read Hota's masterpiece, the Love Spa trilogy, for detailed information on the subject).

>> No.85104238

>>85104113
fans reflect oshi

>> No.85104460

>>85102857
Well we need more lesbian fics

>> No.85104878

>>85104238
Im a novellite and im not into cannibalism

>> No.85104902

>>85104878
false

>> No.85105038

>>85104878
wait so are you implying that shiori does or...?

>> No.85105116
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>>85104460
People need to see the true face of lesbians. Unlike yuri manga would like you to believe, lesbians are not some cute and fluffy little kittens. No! They're pure evil and desire only one thing: enslavement of all humanity under their dark and satanic totalitarian regime.

>> No.85105397

>>85105038
Anon she cant go a stream without mentioning it.

>> No.85105585

>>85105116
Stop giving me more fantasies man

>> No.85105586
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>>85030999
Anon Luther King battles for the uoh rights of the lolicon race

>> No.85105742

>>85105116
is that why so many lesbians beat their significant others?

>> No.85105946

>>85105586
>"I have a dream...! That one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed! 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men have equal access to all Lolis!'"

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>>85105946
“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

>> No.85107285
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>> No.85107291

>>85104460
With whom? Femanon?

>> No.85107318

>>85107291
Holo x Holo stuff

>> No.85107853

>>85104878
>cannibalism
Pardon? This is the first I've heard of Shiori being into cannibalism.

>> No.85109073

>>85107853
Well that's like the otomos and being into forcibly converting people into doll jointed automatons
I've never seen one saying they're into it but someone brought it up and now I gotta wonder

>> No.85109340

>>85109073
Ah, I see. So its basically just a rumour and not known if she's into cannibalism or not.
I don't watch her anyway but it would be kinda worrying if she were into it ya know?

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>>85107853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgjP-Jf6b4w&t=3770s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ivw5In0XVo&t=3678s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YzmhWkDOIk&t=6787s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOJJddzg-ao&t=4556s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILrxzxosEvk&t=3712s

>> No.85110895

Live!

>> No.85111601

>>85109852
Are those like, clips or are they the full thing?
And if its the full thing what timestamp do I need to go in order to see her talk about cannibalism?

>> No.85111695

>>85111601
he already gave you the spoon and now you want the entire jar in your mouth?

>> No.85111905

>>85111601
Dude, the timestamps are included in the link

>> No.85112433

Read all of the Isekai Ojisan in 2 days and now I have the fantasy harem fever. I blame the author for drawing the series like a hentai doujin

So now, what trashy isekai would (you) like to be and what chuubas would even be there to collect into a harem?

>> No.85112594

>>85112433
Respectively, isekai into a dark hentai setting, and HoloX with Laplus as the Demon Lord with the rest of the gen as her elite 4.

>> No.85113100

>>85111695
Mmmfghfgfmfmfh

>> No.85113139
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>>85112433
Last year when I finished watching Isekai Ojisan's anime adaptation I put on some music from the MegaDrive Sonic games and that just fully fucking rekt me, made me remember all the stuff from my early childhood.

>> No.85114074

>>85111695
>>85111905
...Wait, it is? I genuinely thought that when you give a link to someone to view, that the video would start at 0:00 which would then force me to rake through the ENTIRE video just to find one little thing.
My apologises for acting very, VERY stupid (not surprising). I'll give the links a view right now.

>now you want the entire jar in your mouth?
Thanks for making me smile and laugh at bit though. First I've ever heard that line when using the term 'spoonfeeding'.

>> No.85114447

>>85114074
After viewing those links, I think the first one is more harmless (just because she used Kirby and at best you're getting inhaled). whereas the fourth link I didn't like.
...I don't think cannibalism is for me. If you like it that's good on you (and you're entitled to your fetishes hell even I have bad ones) but me? I'd rather not.

>> No.85114667

>>85112594
I'd prefer it being really goofy after a thorough examination.
> Laplace Unchained invades the dreams of four different girls
> She will reward them thoroughly, but they need to break out smol Lappy and look after her while trying to break her chains
> She did tell them her number one ideal which she imprinted upon them, corrupting their essence - might makes right
> So imagine that rule hilariously backfiring when the Hero defeats them one by one

Iroha wants to be taught under you and will do any training asked, you just need to vaguely phrase it as a training
Chloe wants to leech off you but understands that she has to do some favours in return
Lui wants for true love and progeny, so I guess she now expects you to teach her about love (to get herself ready before her fated lover actually arrives)
How would you describe Koyori and Lappy joining your impromptu evil harem?

>> No.85114880

>>85114074
You can tell because the URL includes something like t=3770s at the end. It means the video will start playing from the 3770th second.
Also, check and click links before asking questions about them.

>> No.85115195

>>85114667
>Koyori
Two versions
>Bimbo/Bitch in heat
After getting defeated Koyori turns the chemical she was planning on using on you onto herself.
This turns her into a horny vixen in perpetual heat whose mind has utterly melted down.
>Science Slave
Same scenario of 'chemical/science thing turned around on her' but instead it's some kind of magic slavery thing.
Less vixen in heat and more collared animal.
>Laplus
Going by your own scenario
The link between Laplus' Elite four and her is two ways. Turning all of her minions into lewd women thus turns her lewd as well.
Which leads to big Lappy unsealed being defeated by the power of cock.

>> No.85115248

>>85112594
>>85114667
But... I want them to dominate me

>> No.85115360

>>85114667
Koyori just wants research funds and opportunities, and becomes interested in biology (aka sex and aphrodisiacs).
Lappy has a "secret master plan" where she wants to spy on you and seduce you. If you fuck her she feels like you fell into her trap, except her plan is not that secret and it doesn't really lead anywhere bad.

>> No.85115593

>>85115248
Same...such is the price of victory. Sub anon going out and fighting powerful evil women in hopes one of them will dominate the shit out of him, only to be disappointed every time when he easily beats them and they become part of his harem.

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>>85115593
You can beat up evil women AND get dominated by them later in the bedroom.

>> No.85116065

>>85114880
>check and click links before asking questions about them.
Noted. I'll be sure to not make an arse of myself and just follow the link like you suggested. I'll also stop shitting up the thread now.

>> No.85116539

>>85115593
>have a harem of evil women
>tell them to tie you up and dom you
>a fight over who gets to do what breaks out in the process and they won't stop
>sigh
>break your bonds and beat them into submission, again
>all these hot evil women kneeling in front of you, but you're so unsatisfied

>> No.85116570
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>>85112433
i fuckind despise isekai and i also despise survival crafting games but the original isekai with a heavy emphasis on survival and exploration is my pick.

An alien world, you are thrown into it with a few chuubas and you all try to navigate it as best as you can without dying. Some real life knowledge and skills to spice it up but nothing wild as you try and find some footing with what you have.

No game systems, no tongue in cheek parodies, no transformation, no skills, no thinly veiled chinese mysticism, no I WILL WIN BECAUSE MY WOODCARVING IS SUPERIOR, no "exploiting the economy with this skill i learned after googling top 10 best scams", etc.

Just.people.triying.to.not.fucking.die

>> No.85116658

>>85116570
Sounds miserable, but you do you!

>> No.85116808

>>85112433
A harem of Gen 2 + GAMERS where I unlock their powers by sticking my otherworldly tongue up their asses

>> No.85116843

>>85116658
Not that guy but it's fucking based, just write it as Path of Exile but with chuubas and have the survival sections broken up with exploration and fighting hordes of enemies.

>> No.85116862
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>>85116658
if i wanted a harem where im the center of the world and people cant help but genuflect at my marvelous might and smarts id just pick the superior genre of battle harem complete with its rich repertoire of stereotypical heroines.

Isekai is trash in any way, shape or form because it doesnt have the balls to be shameless, its permeated by that extremely cringe irony of "hahaha oh WOW its just like my anime and games! wild!"

im the chosen one, i punch guys in the mouth and get bitches that punch me in the mouth so i have to train to become the robot president of the united states of japanafrica

>> No.85117799

>>85116862
I think you just summarized why exactly battle harem was the superior slop genre. Like, these series were always completely ridiculous. Even something as iconic as Fate/Stay Night has insanely dumb shit like King Arthur (female) falling in love with a high school retard over one and a half weeks. But even in the silliest battle harems there was always SOMETHING you could take away from them, maybe they had an interesting setting, or the writer came up with some neat schizo lore, or the power system was interesting to play around with, you know, anything! An actual story, even if it was totally retarded.

The isekai genre is bad not because of the boilerplate premise (though I personally don't like it), but because it represents a period of time where commercial experience and social media allowed writers and publishers to do away with writing actual stories, however silly, and simply extrude dopamine hits in the form of a standardized product. The standard of anime/novel that the isekai boom brought with was essentially to 2010s anime writing what lootboxes+microtransactions were to 2010s videogames.

>> No.85118027

>>85116862
yeah well I think Bae should sit on my face

>> No.85118586

>>85117799
The thing with isekai is that it fully exploits the japanese publication system to the max.

>write something that appeals to people
>it gets popular
>it gets published
>it gets an anime
>we all cash in our checks and walk away

How many isekais actually end? as in, they reach their logical conclusion? how many of them lose gas right as the anime stops airing, how many of them jampack all their ideas on the first half and then stumble into a second half?
Hell. how many of the isekai authors actually come back to publishing/release a second story? how many of them pair up with a hentai/ecchi artist?.

Isekai is a business. Everyone gets a cut of the pie.
Publishers get a check and they can say "oh yeah we scouted that big hit"
Studios get a check and the honor to say "yeah we did that"
Author gets a check and they can ride off into the sunset
Artists get a check, exposure and they are exent of any fuckup as they only do art.
>>85118027
get in line, im first

>> No.85118763

>>85116862
I was being facetious, but only just. Jerking off to harem is the same as trying to jerk off to suffering in a bush, military or some sort of twisted prison - the latter are just less common and a bit more difficult
The only thing that actually matters is whether or not you can extract an engaging story out of it instead of a list of motions and events that your character went through. I couldn't extract it from a lot of harems which were either dropped or read to completion from inertia, but that doesn't mean that there aren't any that do have it.

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>>85118763
>Jerking off to harem is the same as trying to jerk off to suffering in a bush, military or some sort of twisted prison
What the fuck does this even mean

>> No.85119172

>>85118880
It doesn't matter what is the source of dopamine in the written work - sex, drama, acknowledgement of a niche subject that you felt you were the only one interested in, etc. - what matters is that there is an engaging, gripping story buried in there somewhere, waiting to be uncovered.

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>>85119172
while you are technically true, the point of the conversation here is that both isekai and battle harem are low hanging fruits (in fact hanging so low they are touching the ground and half decomposed) and when presented with both i would rather pick the less rotten one.

And sure, as you say, there's a lot of shit in both genres and what matters is the story and not the cliches...is just that isekai has such an embarassing track record compared to battle harem that its not even funny.

People like Konosuba yeah, but if i have to pick inbetween
>"i reincarnated as the guy with a an unlimited ammo gun in the knife world"
or
>"The battle school for witches with huge tits and fat asses where im the only mage"

I would pick the second one because there's at least the notion of struggle and something going on inbetween my wish fullfillment.


This is all like putting an immortal character in your battle series. Sure they CAN be interesting...but the track record of them is having bad fights (because they cant die) and deflating the situation (because they will never be in mortal danger and can stall forever)

>> No.85119982
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hey anons! remember when you all drank that lemonade from my lemonade stand?

Whoops! turns out it had alt suisei mindbugs on it. sorry!

>> No.85120037

>>85118880
It's your brain on aesthetic relativism.

>> No.85120082

>>85119982
alt suisei is upon the list of ideas that I want to write about but I don't think I can pull off properly with my current skill

>> No.85120115
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85120115

>>85119982
its crowded in here, please put it next to the rest

>> No.85120360

>>85119982
Suisei, ultra-successful corporate vtuber for Hololive Production: :|

Suisei, my buck-broken idol whore who relies solely on me, Producer-sama, to avoid falling into obscurity after destroying all her other career paths in scandal: :O

>> No.85120391

>>85120082
I dont wanna make an entire series but i dont have an idea aside from she has a meltdown then crawls into your arms at night (you were forced into the couch) and tells you she's sorry

>> No.85120480

>>85116862
I didn't really read what you wrote, but I want to spank Bae's ass until it's red and then rail her.

>> No.85120743

>Definitely Not Ratcest

>> No.85121079
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I think both isekai and battle harem are able to hit their respective forms of wish fulfillment if executed half-competently, but I think the difference lies in their scopes.

>battle harem
Has a clear end point given the current world state. Your chicks are going to beat the shit out of you, and have sex, or beat the shit out of each other, then have sex with you, or work together to beat the shit out of an even bigger girl, then have sex.
It's designed to be self-contained and not leave the viewer longing for much more, and you don't need to expand a lot other than how powers work.

>Isekai
The plot is a lot more open-ended compared to battle harem. The point of the isekai is that it's a vast and ever rotating world, which leaves a lot more potential for overarching story telling. The world state is also used as a central moving point in most isekais, mostly in the form of how the self-insert has been slighted by how things are currently, or how they are actively trying to change them. A goal that big can't be done in a single season, which is why most writers seem to opt to just giving the self-insert some bullshit power or have them crutch on their modern past life experience to fast track them to either living in comfort, or blasting away the opposition. This type of mentality also affects the worldbuilding, since the market is that people just care about being literally them in a fantasy world and reaping all the rewards, so the world outside of a few snippets in the start, and some plot twist later, is almost deemed irrelevant, since the point would be that it will be forcibly changed by the MC.

Tldr: The scope of isekai is much larger than that of a battle harem, so a viewer might feel bad over the wasted potential an isekai can have. Both can do similar things, but the battle harem is on average better about owning up to the schlock factor and just having fun with it.

>> No.85121273

>>85115195
Wouldn't that bitch/bimbo scenario where she's constantly in heat and her mind utterly melted down basically make her a vegetable?

>> No.85121402

>>85121273
No, just into an only somewhat coherent bimbo that can't think about much else than sex.

>> No.85121483
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>>85120480
Reminder that Bae is the anal idol of EN

>> No.85121685

>>85121402
Oh, I see. Not that I'm complaining or anything but I could see the average joe get real tired of constant sex and it'd be like, interesting to see a tired/exhausted anon trying to stop a constantly horny Koyori into not having sex but it falls on deaf ears because all she's interested in is getting her brains (if she has any after they turned to goo) fucked and if you're not cooperating then she's just gonna do it anyway.
I'm probably thinking too deep into it huh. Usually when I think 'mind melted' I usually think of it as in literally as if their mind is only focusing on sex, they can't function on doing 'other' stuff. That means things such as:

- Feeding/hydrating themselves.
- Using the loo/showering to make themselves clean.
- Possibly being unable to take proper care of themselves like properly dressing themselves/combing their hair and other stuff.
- Brushing their teeth.

>> No.85121751

>>85119982
why does she have self harm scars...? This image makes me sad...

>> No.85122397

>>85121751
I can fix her...

>> No.85123501

>>85119982
>>85121751
Nah it's great, imagine how easy she would be to abuse if she hates herself. Imagine if she's right in hating herself and her guilt is justified and the abuse righteous.

>> No.85124484

>>85123501
How so? Did suisei kill a guy?

>> No.85126398 [DELETED] 

up

>> No.85126459
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>>85121751
She's in a relationship she can't get out of with a psycho lesbian rapist

>> No.85126641
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Do you guys think we'll ever seen Ninisanni Scenario anon again?

>> No.85126698

>>85126641
He was in the last thread moron chill out

>> No.85126755

>>85126641
Every writer has been replaced by the AI Shiori has made of them after harvesting their brains to feed her Fanfic-O-Matic to force them to write around the clock for her and her alone with no breaks or no need for things like food, water, love, etc.

>> No.85126768

>>85126641
he's actually here, let me put him on the phone

hey its me, john ninisanni

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>>85120391
Okay, that seems a lot more manageable. I could imagine the meltdown being due to her career or suspicions of you.

>> No.85127148

>>85119982
I had something planned involving Alt!Suisei when that was the threads brainrot involving two simultaneous plots and multiple worlds theory but cooled on it when the zeitgeist faded. Still wanna get around to it but it's super low in priority now.

>> No.85127195

>>85124484
She killed her producer Anon-kun’s sister in a drunk driving accident, so no amount of dressing room rape after each show will ever atone.

Source: I just came up with it five seconds ago

>> No.85127257

>>85126768
You can't fool me. You didn't use fifteen different words I've never heard of before in your post.

>> No.85128387

>>85126987
eh i was gonna frame it as a menhera moment due to you taking a break, which she interprets as a break from her.
didnt quite feel right so i went back to the drawing board

>> No.85130413

>>85128387
I think that sounds pretty good, it lends itself to her menhara nature. And when she's pushed you out, she realises how lonely she is and comes crawling back to you in.

>> No.85130467

so i was considering a concept for a fic about holos being cute maids, and figured a full gen would be the best grouping
i thought advent would be a good choice, but i can't really think of anything bijou would be good at enough to focus on in terms of being a maid

>> No.85131448
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>>85130467
Emotion gem is good at guessing what you want/need before you can ask. Terrible at everything else, though I can't imagine Advent screwing in a lightbulb easily let alone running upkeep on a manor

>> No.85131608

>>85131448
well they're all kind of awful at being maids but they have areas of expertise good for helping out
nerissa for example can teach etiquette and music to the young master and comedically break dishes
the dogs can help him exercise and guard him while eating all the food
shiori helps with his education, et cetera
at least that's the idea i had

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>>85131608
Don't let Mococo show the impressionable youth the thrill of a game of chance.

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>>85126641
I'm no longer vtuber related so we are now no longer allowed to speak.
You can summon me if you mention something tangentially related to VNs though.
>>85127257
Trepenation, bifurcation, obeisance, scapula, foreshortening, sacrum, preposition (i still don't know what this word means), boifwi, inseam, hreen, ennui, intranet, locquacious, chemise, laissez-faire.
>>85130467
HoloPromise could work. I'm biased though.
>Kronii : lazy maid that gets reprimanded but still doesn't care
>Bae: bustling busy bee maid
>Irys: temptuous maid that flirts with the master to get out of work
>Fauna: proper dignified maid that engages in some prankstering gap moe
>Mumei: stoic maid. also an assassin because we need an assassin maid in the cast
>Sana: head maid. good tutor and friendly, but has a hidden scary side

>> No.85133793

>>85133287
>no longer vtuber related
My heart breaks...

>> No.85134918
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>>85030949
Expanding on that Mori dubcon idea I proposed last thread because I couldn't for the life of me get it out of my skull

>one day your older classmate Mori takes you into the woods behind the school and screws you, because she's desperate to find an outlet for her sexual frustration and she's noticed you already have something of a boyish crush on her
>afterwards when you're all warm and fuzzy inside Mori leans right in your face and makes you promise to never tell anyone about what you two are doing back here
>every now and then she takes you to back that spot, it hurts sometimes because the two of you barely know what you're doing, but overall you're just happy your crush is paying attention to you, and Mori's grateful that you're letting her keep doing this
>soon after she starts opening up to you about all her hangups and interests and everything else she doesn't have the courage to say, you're no longer just a sexual outlet for her but also a living emotional crutch
>eventually Mori legitimately falls for you and starts talking about wanting to move to Japan with you and spend the rest of your lives together, but deep down she knows it might not ever happen because your entire relationship is built on what basically amounts to rape
>she vents the frustration of knowing this and trying to keep your relationship a secret by getting more forceful and possessive until it devolves into a vicious cycle of abuse and remorseful lovebombing
>you still put up with it because you really do love her back and neither of you have a concept of what a healthy romantic or sexual relationship even looks like

>> No.85135377

>>85133287
>I'm no longer vtuber related so we are now no longer allowed to speak.
What a shame you can no longer spread your garbage. Truly, I'm heartbroken.

Off you fuck, now.

>> No.85136794

>>85131448
>>85131608
Bijou could be the one who is surprisingly decent at housework though.
she's pretty tidy and neat, at least according to the other girls, and she's very good at being spoiled so that can help.
alternatively, if you dont want to put a "head maid" character to balance the cast, you can always put her as the one who is in training and thus not great at anything yet

>> No.85138698

>>85135377
>ninisanni anon has antis
The mental illness on this board really ought to be studied in a lab

>>85134918
Mori my beloved rapist rape victim

>> No.85138764

>>85135377
Where's your alternative, well-received virtual novel, anon?

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>>85133287
HoloPromise would make good maids

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Been reading some more Ninisanni 2 lately. I didn't realize the sheer enormity of it initially - a lot of branches don't open until you've unlocked and bought things or watched certain scenes once. Still gives me a warm nostalgic glee with every scene but slightly tempered by NinisanniAnon holding the diametric opposite of every single one of my sexual preferences and not being afraid to repeatedly share it. At least he's very much his own character instead of a weak self-insert so I get plenty of narrative enjoyment but ironically the greater detail in the sex scenes in this one makes them less sexy than the ones in 1 to me since it's like a gatling gun of blueball phrases

>> No.85141100

>>85140790
>a lot of branches don't open until you've unlocked and bought things or watched certain scenes once
I'm still trying to find Scarle outside that one ending...

>> No.85141226

>>85133287
>>85140549
You're not wrong, but I did like the idea that all of Advent are objectively kinda shitty maids.
I could work Promise into it though. Give each of them areas of expertise—IRyS as the lady's maid, Fauna as a nursemaid or laundry maid to spend a bit of time outdoors, et cetera.
The other idea I had was that the main character would have been injured in some way, with a broken leg or arm that requires the staff take very close care of him, which leads to situations where he's being washed while embarrassed about it, fed by hand, thigns like that. Not sure about it though.

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>>85119982
I know the concept has moved past that original idea when it comes to the Anon/Suisei angle but I still think there's potential in the suisei swap being a part of the main plot instead of just the set up.
By nature, this adds some stakes to the whole thing since it adds "should you switch them back" while making "Can you switch them back" a relevant conflict to the story.
I know a lot of what fed the brain bug was alt!Sui sex ideas where the idea that she's stuck here go deal with it assuage any guilt about fucking her instead of your suisei, but... It feels like it's throwing what having our!Sui be relevant in the story adds in order to help make the crazy failed idol sex feel more justified.
...
Also I wish that anon that wrote that fucking alt!suisei VN demo would come back. That was a pretty solid concept.

>> No.85142447

>>85141226
>IRyS treating you like you're made of glass and apologizing for the slightest mistake
>Bae being a worrywart but always brushing it off while blushing when it's brought to attention
>Fauna being caring and patient, but also teasing you about how much you depend on them
>Mumei having no idea what to do but still trying her best to aid you by treating you like you're not actually impaired
>Kronii boasting about her caretaking skills while also having no idea on what to do, then apologizing profusely and going on self-hating rants when she inevitably screws up
Now the question is who's gonna make their move first on the young master.

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>>85141511
personally i feel like the concept of twin suisei has the trap of setting one as "the good one" and needing to redeem the other

For me, Alt!Suisei is kind of a feral animal that is lashing and going on a rampage...and you have to work real hard to see below that rage. I feel like that "oh shit, im trapped with this creature" feeling captures the original idea of "all the bad parts of Suisei strong points"

>> No.85144415 [DELETED] 

ten (10)

>> No.85144694

>>85142573
>and you have to work real hard to see below that rage.
OR just rape her. She's like 100lbs sopping wet she can't fend off a rape.

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>>85140790
I wrote the MC to be a vanillafag in all respects. It's part of the comedy lol
>>85141100
Oh man, then you're missing out on some sweet Pomurin goodness too. If you want spoilers on how to get on the route, just bomb the interview

>> No.85146959

>>85146182
>spoiler
Fuck, I accidentally did that my second run and reloaded thinking it was necessary for me to get the job.

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>> No.85149526

>>85130467
If I remember right there's a cg set out there about myth being maids.
Though thinking about it they'd all be fucking terrible at the job unless by maid you meant sex maids.

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>>85146959
>savescumming
Disgusting!

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>>85141511
> I know the concept has moved past that original idea when it comes to the Anon/Suisei angle but I still think there's potential in the suisei swap being a part of the main plot instead of just the set up.
Did it? I always thought the swap was the main appeal, otherwise you're just writing rrat!Ayame. I think the swap is more interesting for the reason you said. I think ignoring Our!Suisei just throws out too much potential, even if you have to kinda make a second plot. One where you have to try and find a way to bring Our!Suisei back without setting off/alerting Alter and another where Suisei has to navigate/salvage Alter's life while trying to get back herself (or something like that). There's already enough menhera chuubas, a story without the contrast between normal Suise and batshit Suisei and that question of "How did this happen?" isn't nearly as appetizing to me, which is why I had planned my Alter story around a swap.

>>85142573
>personally i feel like the concept of twin suisei has the trap of setting one as "the good one" and needing to redeem the other
It's that or a patronizing "well Alter your life is worth living too!" kind of ending which is why I cooled on the idea. I think a third ending would be the two Suisei's telling each other to mind their own business, so to speak.

>> No.85154501

>>85130467
If you're going with Advent, you could work their prisoner aspect into it somehow. Maybe Bijou isn't that skilled at anything yet but really dedicated to you, since you used your influence to get them out of jail - to fix them by giving them a purpose as maids. And they're really grateful for it.

>> No.85154904

>>85152915
I agree. One plot where you try to fix Alter with your heart and mind and dick, and one where the Original has to find your alternate version and make amends so you can be together in both universes, like you're meant to.

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>>85152915
eeeeh i wouldnt say its rrat!Ayame all over again.
Rrat!Ayame is a whore version that you learn to love once you are able to look past the social and self imposed layers.
Alt!Suisei (in this context of the switch) is learning to love the bad or toxic parts of someone you already loved. For me, what makes the prompt work is precisely the idea of not having an out. Either you learn to deal with this version or you dont.

Of course, Alt!Suisei needs a balance. She should be prone to moodswings and menhera but also be suisei.
>Does not tolerate you arriving late to the meeting and throws a bitchfit
>BUT as you start anticipating and satisfiying her standards she starts mellowing out and acting a bit more like our suisei

Keeping her likeable enough would help for the moment where you have to dick her because its not "grr shitty bitch have cock" but rather "damn...if you werent so crazy you'd be perfect"

>> No.85156575

im just glad more people discuss suisei with the intent of filling her with cum

huzzah!

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>>85156575

>> No.85157061

>>85156575
Her brother can't be doing all the work, he has to go out and find a healthy relationship. To an incarnation of a concept or an ancient demon or something.

>> No.85157094

>>85156575
Goonathan....

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>>85157035
>doesnt want to be sexed
>is sex incarnate
dont give me that stare

>> No.85157869

>>85157094
A fic about turning a humble knight into an unrepentant goon?

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>>85030949
A White December, Chapter Eight

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZtZdWSyy-uYurX-fxVBSmTUrDWKbvN7lEu-9jSPWmtE/pub

tags: military romance, Sora, AZKi, Botan, war, sad

>> No.85158242

>>85157869
>Boss think I saw Da Bat in that warehouse
>thanks for the heads up Gonathon

>> No.85158249

>>85157869
>whateva you say boss
>on it boss
>das right boss

gigi would know it but i think it would be cute if a chuuba told you to "goon it out" and then gets horrified when she learns the "new" meaning of the word

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I had an outrageous dream. Me, Ayame, Kenmochi and the troops under his command have to smuggle Hitler and his wealth out of the country but most of the dream is just us dealing with car problems and Kenmochi and Hitler losing their shit over it. And when we finally get to start the operation I just wake up. I had Hitler in my car, Ayame had the money in her car and we were supposed to go separate routes.

>> No.85159946

>>85157035
God I want to fill Blue Prude with my semen so badly it's unreal

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>>85161661
I want a little Cecilia that can sit in my pocket and tell me when I'm wrong

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don't die

>> No.85165175

>>85154501
The thing is that this doesn't really solve the problem I had, which is that she'd need a significant 'role' in the household, and just constantly being underfoot isn't right either because it presents the other problem of never getting alone time with the other girls.
Honestly I'm leaning towards Promise at thispoint. Thought about Myth but I don't actually know what they're like these days since I stopped following all of them

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>> No.85167250

>>85165175
She could take care of the stone garden.

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>>85154904
Thats one way to do it, not my preferred choice though. I would rather have the switcharoo make the two of you ruminate on your relationship and the nature of your choices and regrets so that when they're switched back the two of you can start rebuilding your relationship.

>>85155683
I get where you're coming from and while I agree, (Alt!Suisei is at least a grounded conjecture) it is still purposefully writing someone "OOC" which is fine but let's not dress it up. What I mean by rrat!Ayame is that it's fitting a square peg into a round hole. Like we got some good stories out of rrat!Ayame but is there any reason it couldn't have been Hoshikawa? Same idea with Alt!Suisei. There are plenty of crazy bitches to write smut about. Is bending Suisei to do that same thing really appealing outside of it "being Suisei"? Like Rushia is right there

For me, the appeal of Alt!Suisei (in a switch scenario) is less her as her own character and more the themes she brings: The nature of the choices we make - what we leave behind when we do and the regrets we bring forward. Nature versus nurture and the perils of staring too long into the abyss. Remember, Suisei almost quit hololive and being a vtuber. It's those two minutes to midnight that is the concepts appeal to me. The idea of a story where (You) and Suisei see the refractions of yourselves is way too tantalizing to pick over "crazy blue woman sexo".

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>>85167098
>Alternate universe where (You) are the streamer and Fauna is the schizo spamming 'I MISS ANON'

>> No.85167923

>>85167688
>but is there any reason it couldn't have been Hoshikawa?
HSKW is a proud whore highly aware of her whore social station, rrat!Ayame on the other hand has a significant spoiled-rich-girl element behind her sluttiness owing to the character spawning from the actual person refusing to stream while being a merch juggernaut.

As for Rushia I think she's reached the point where it's impossible to write her as a sympathetic character if you know enough about her, or at least for the audience here to ever see her that way.

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>>85167688
>but is there any reason it couldn't have been Hoshikawa?
Ehh I get what you're saying, but Hoshikawa is much less mean than the sort of accepted characterization of rrat!Ayame. Alt!Suisei is much closer to a character study on Suisei, and what she'd potentially be like if all her hard work and dedication weren't rewarded in the end like they were irl, and the "I worked harder, therefore deserve more" mentality taken to a toxic extreme.

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>>85167688
>pic

>> No.85169458

>>85169422
looong

>> No.85170137

The crying, whiny saplings are in this thread now?

>> No.85170435

>>85167923
I'd like a spoiled rich girl enjoying me for my dick

>> No.85170632

>>85170137
uuuuuuuuu...

>> No.85171254

>>85170632
...me too, man. Me too.
is this bullshit what I will have to go through every day until 65?

>> No.85171812

>>85115757
But how Freakazoid?

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Speaking of battle harems
Pitch a chuuba battle harem concept
>Setting
>Esoteric power system that explains why chuubas are the supreme power (optional exception for (You)).
>Who's the first girl and or who'll win the harembowl
>Harem members and/or harem theme
>How would it start?

>> No.85172656

>>85171918
>Esoteric power system that explains why chuubas are the supreme power (optional exception for (You))
that one's incredibly easy anon
you just go with the old standby of fame = power, which also gives you a reason for the world to have an 'entertainment industry' even in a fantasy age

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>>85171918
>1920's Europe where WW1 still hasn't ended
>Actual for real Miracles started happening immediately upon the conscription of women for the war effort, so most have actually been reassigned as chaplains whose prayers for rains of fire or healing of the sick are answered. (You) have been in the war since the start, even lied about your age to join, so you know the vast European trenches and no-man's-lands like the back of your hand and are a savant at soldiering.
>Deaconess Marine, your biological half-sister Scribe Shiori
>Noel, Marine, Shiori, Kanata, Fauna as battle nuns
>You're tasked with a mission to escort Marine from London across war-torn Europe to the Vatican

>> No.85175070

>>85172656
So like all chuubas would be demons born of/empowered by the faith of the masses? With Anon some kind of medieval fantasy mix between a devil summoner and a producer?

>> No.85175271

>>85133287
I thought I knew what preposition means but after seeing your post I looked it up and apparently the word I was thinking of was proposition, preposition is a completely different thing. That happens to be a word I used in my WIP so thanks for unintentionally helping me fix that mistake.

>> No.85175371

>>85175070
The original concept would be one that's intended for priests/rulers to gain power from their believers/citizens, but has been subverted because an entertainment industry is so much more competitive. Then you give each chuuba a handful of unique theme-related 'powers'.

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I really want to make that VN I talked about and mess around with it periodically, but I find it borderline impossible to write from the perspective of the chuubas. Like, I can't nail their personality. No matter what I try, it just feels like there's a good chunk of me speaking. How do you guys manage it?

>> No.85176527

>>85176471
We don't. Its why we retreated here to the other place on the internet where second person perspective is appreciated.

>> No.85176649

>>85169422
Suisei is the fucking protagonist of vtubing, and no one can convince me otherwise

>> No.85177090

>>85176471
By watching the vtuber in question and thinking about her a lot. Maybe you should collaborate with other writers who can write some chuubas.

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>>85176649
The real fucking protagonist of vtubing is me fucking all the chuubas

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>>85177359
>Fucking all
Gay.
I want to creampie the same girl I love for the rest of my life

>> No.85178497

>>85178208
Surely you have some creampies to spare for the needy.

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>>85178208
Homecooking can be pretty good but I'm more of a fine dining guy myself when it comes to women

>> No.85179171

>>85159024
I had a dream where I desperately tried to write a letter to Mio but things kepts getting in the way, like work, friends, and other stuff.
I felt like I had to write to her because I felt she was going to die and was waiting to hear from me.

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>>85178497
Bah, get your own man, you zoomer tramp!

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>>85178997
I too, like the finer pleasures of life, like a well-aged wine.

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>>85179790
For me it's 12-course menu that comes in small portions

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>>85179790
For me it's 14-course dinner that comes in small portions

>> No.85180217

>>85180134
Now delete this and change it to 16-course.

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>>85180217
Baka

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>> No.85181688

>>85181584
Laplus Dear Highest Death Thirteen Dyna Art Of Impact Sign Emperor Lord Of The Darknesss... -chan.

>> No.85181865

>>85180134
>Ui has sex with you 14 times in a row, a year older each time

>> No.85181975

>>85181865
Wouldn't it be better to save the best for last?

>> No.85182061

>>85178208
But think about it anon - any seed you're spilling into an already impregnated chuuba is going to waste. While your progeny is in the midst of being incubated, you need to find someone else to impregnate, and then again once she's knocked up as well. Minmax your loads, if you will.

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>> No.85182466

>>85182061
Just imagine impregnating all of Hololive and then impregnating all the daughters and their daughters too, and having at least 10 kids with all of them, creating the greatest dynasty ever.

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>>85182061
>>85182466

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>>85182824
I was about to say that this is why I love Japanese people; only they could come up with an idea like this. But the artist doesn't seem to be Japanese? Well, you could still argue that this wouldn't exist without Japanese inspiration though I guess.

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>>85183155
AFAIK penguru is japanese, but seems to be very on touch with the western side of the world.

Which is pretty cool if you ask me

>> No.85184168

>>85183400
In retrospect that's what made the anime fandom of 00's kinda charming. There was a lot more mixing of Western memes, music and and influences with anime stuff.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1863770

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>> No.85187050

>>85182466
If you have only daughters and start at 10 how many can you get?

>> No.85187291

>>85182466
Anon your dynasty will be more inbred than the Hapsburgs...

>> No.85187452

>>85182061
I'd only knock up women my wife allows me to

>> No.85187457

>>85185192
>Bae will never sing this while you have sex with Kiara backstage

>> No.85187716

>>85187050
Exluding Hitomi Chris and the Chinese branch, there's been 72 holos
10 kids with 72 holos: 720 kids
10 kids with 720 daughters: 7200 granddaughter-daughters

>> No.85188076

>>85187716
Those are rookie numbers, you could get a lot more generations in.

>> No.85188230
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>>85187291
My seed is so high quality that incest will actually make them 200IQ übermensch but with the unfortunate side effect that it'll be a coinflip whether they'll turn into batshit insane lunatics who are paranoid about everything and everyone.

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>>85167923
I'm just saying, that a lot of the discussion around Alt!Suisei is just making her blue Rushia

>>85168290
>Alt!Suisei is much closer to a character study on Suisei, and what she'd potentially be like if all her hard work and dedication weren't rewarded in the end
I completely agree with you. I think not examining that, regardless of how deep you want to go, is a bit of waste. Like yeah menhera sex is cool but have you ever ruminated about the nature of identity?

>>85169422
She's come a long way.

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>>85188076
Just having just 2 more kids per woman gives you over 10k at the end, and who knows how kemo litters factor in

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>Your harem keeps wanting to have kids to give you a son
>They only pump out daughters
>You couldn't be happier

>> No.85189645

>>85189509
Well, you do need one son once your dick and/or balls stop working properly.

>> No.85190111

>>85189645
You need a son way earlier. Once you go into the thousands you won't be able to impregnate all of them once per year if you want to do it without taking one cumshot and splitting it up between multiple of them

>> No.85191332
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I just want my own happy family. Nature will do the rest later when it comes to the bloodline.

>> No.85191838

sex with Gonathan's boypussy (real) and Gigi's girlcock

>> No.85191858
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I just want to have gay sex with Suitrap

>> No.85191944

>>85191838
>>85191858
Homomind

>> No.85192261

>>85191944
...yes?

>> No.85193423

>>85191838
What does this mean? One rule 63 Gigi and one futa Gigi?

>> No.85193875

>>85193423
I think he means that he wants to be both on top and on the bottom, perhaps in that order of events.

>> No.85194941

>>85193423
idk I just thought it'd be funny to say because Gonathan literally is a boy with a pussy

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>> No.85197962

I have to continue my fic but I can't read my earlier chapters to remember all the details. It just hurts to see how my lines used to look like... how do you get over this?

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>>85197962
Your fics gonna be worse off if you don't so all the new lines will look just like the old ones because you're a 'woe is me' pussy and you're write off the entire fic.

GET TO WORK!

>> No.85198497

>>85198120
that's a good motivator, the feeling that at least you can salvage it with "better" writing and retcons towards the end. thank u suisi

>> No.85199748

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8eupedrTwvs

>> No.85199795

>>85199748
>Writing about Phase
Definitely haven't done nor will I do that

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>>85030999
>Suisei teases you seductively and plays with your heart
>This goes on for some time until one day you finally reach the boiling point and decide to give her correction
>Suisei tells you how happy she is that you're finally showing your masculine side by taking her with force
>Her condescending attitude unlocks your final form; your inner rape super saiyan is activated
>You absolutely brutalize her manko with your dick like a deah metal drummer
>Suisei starts crying and apologizing for going too far
>You don't care

>> No.85199970

>>85199795
But deep in your heart, there exists a seed of darkness

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>>85199970
yeah that's my gay stars fic ideas

>> No.85201089

>>85199861
Then she remains silent as you cuddle her, aside from sobs and sniffles. The next morning she’s still around and cooking breakfast for you like nothing happened.

>> No.85201431

>>85187716
>Exluding Hitomi Chris and the Chinese branch, there's been 72 holos
>10 kids with 72 holos: 720 kids
>10 kids with 720 daughters: 7200 granddaughter-daughters
What would even be the monetary upkeep of all this?

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>>85201431
The Japanese Government would pay for it all and treat me like a national hero

>> No.85201899

>>85201530
Baka-gaijin, reducing the genetic diversity of the nation, a hero? Maybe if your name was Takesji and you were born there, sure, but in the eyes of many you won't ever be Japanese

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>>85197962
Sounds like a skill issue defined under: Being a little bitch.
If you are cringing now at those lines, it means you've grown. Wear it with pride. Also, fucking enjoy what you wrote before. It made you smile then, now should be no different. If you want it to look better, make a note for yourself to do it later. You have nothing but solutions and they all start with (You)

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>>85201954
Baked. Migrate when ready

>> No.85202243

>>85201899
When my horde of thousands of children take over with my autistic hyper-fixations and my wives's natural charisma nobody will be able to say anything

>> No.85202262

>>85030999
Sex with Gonathan who knows not the touch of a woman OR a man. Please. I'm so lonely.

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>>85201899
Put me in, coach. I look Asian enough to pass as a Japanese.

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