/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>84911436
MORIR ES VIVIR

>>84911436
Rikka's dick goes in there

>>84911436
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>快晴 / Kaisei (cover) *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70
>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw
>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A
>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0
>奏 / Kanade (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw
>My Dearest (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>Utakata Maybe *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=-pfI25EsoRs
>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI
>カバー曲 / Cover Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR
>歌まとめ / All Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1

mori is the cutest EN

wtf didnt mori begged atlus for p3 permissions and got btfo by management but now shes actually getting sponsored by them?

>>84911001
In about 24 hours

>>84911436
Recent clip numbers
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>not even putting herself on the cover can save this project
Grim.

>>84911471
no

>>84911436
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>54,530: Miko (Hololive)
>43,189: Gura (Hololive)
>40,113: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>24,714: Torajo Jovem (NEOBAKA)
>23,277: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,317: AZKi (Hololive)
>21,043: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,837: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,502: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,333: Raden (Hololive)
>18,272: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>16,787: Mio (Hololive)
>16,111: Marine (Hololive)
>15,999: Reine (Hololive)
>15,947: Korone (Hololive)
>15,940: Toko (Nijisanji)
>12,914: Raden (Hololive)
>12,483: Ao (Hololive)
>12,057: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>11,777: Kanade (Hololive)

>>84911504
MGO doesn't need saving phasefriend

Wake up seeing Magni actively killing Holostars by exposing them to Twitch Con plagues.

Feels good man

>>84911473
It's funny if you go on sukikira (I don't recommend doing that) you can still see jp antis regularly pitching about that atlus stream kek

>>84911516
counterpoint:

what's biboo doin on the 13th?

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN COPE TALLY*
>09/09 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)
2.922: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | Breaking Dimensions Concert Watchalong
2.218: Phase Connect | Phase Summer Camp
2.098: Shiina (Phase-Connect) | Phase Summer Camp
1.967: Kilia (EIEN Project) | Graduation Stream
1.433: Phase Connect | Phase Summer Camp
1.351: Enna (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting
1.338: Ruze (Holostars) | Minecraft
1.220: Victoria (Nijisanji) | Street Fighter 6 Tournament
1.192: Tenma (Phase-Connect) | Mister Furry Hot Muscles
1.144: Dizzy (Phase-Connect) | Fantasy Map Simulator
1.126: Nene (Kawaii) | ASMR Stream
1.043: Kanna (PixelLink) | ASMR Stream

>After reviewing the available information, we want to let you know bvtm_tnd hasn’t broken our safety policies. We know this isn’t the answer you’re looking for. If this account breaks our policies in the future, we’ll notify you.

>>84911516
>weird glossiness makes her look like ai
>is a robot

https://youtu.be/1mxKKQkbrQU
Idk how to feel about this

Do we like this body type here?

>>84911460
>see women
>instantly think of cock
Mental illness innit

*YESTERDAY’S EN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>09/09 TALLY:
43,189: Gura (Hololive) | 2.0 Reveal
9,941: Bijou (Hololive) | Grindstone Anniversary w/ Kaela
8,585: Dokibird (Indie) | Sajam Slam
6,817: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | FuwaMoco Morning
5,704: Raora (Hololive) | Drawing

>EN GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 2024
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 18,866 - ENReco
2) Bijou (Hololive) - 22,491 - ENReco
3) Bijou (Hololive) - 36,137 - ENReco
4) Gura (Hololive) - 18,093 - ENReco
5) Bijou (Hololive) - 28,611 - ENReco
6) Mori (Hololive) - 18,838 - Outfit Reveal
7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 16,154 - ENReco
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 15,221 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Gura (Hololive) - 43,189 - 2.0 Reveal

>PER COMPANY
9x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Bijou
2x: Gura
1x: Mori, Mumei, Nerissa

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
25p: Bijou
17p: Gura
13p: Fauna
6p: Nerissa
5p: Mori, Mumei
3p: Gigi, Raora
1p: Ameila, Dokibird, Elizabeth, Kiara

>>84911473
Altus thought that stream was funny. They also sponsored her for the P3P port

>>84911497
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>>84911554
>>84911570
>>84911585
>chinkslop thread
You faggots deserve a month of wukong streams

>>84911506
Well anons? What do you think?

green > pink

>>84911585
Is Biboo the strongest EN currently?

>>84911528
Didnt the blueFAG bragged about his small 3D room studio?
I think theyre gonna go soon

>>84911623
green + pink

>>84911625
kill yourself botfag

>>84911524
SEPTEMBER 2024 GOLD
>1) 107,848: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer Bingo lottery [29]
>2) 60,469: Miko (Hololive) Koemane King [23]
>3) 69,212: Subaru (Hololive) Chained Together w/ Miko [19]
>4) 42,818: Miko (Hololive) Happy Announcement [19]
>5) 40,548: Miko (Hololive) 7 days to die
>6) 68,007: Rika (Nijisanji) 3D debut
>7) 155,940: Hololive (Hololive) Gen 0 3D Live
>8) 92,975: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Music Fes 2024 announcement
>9) 54,530: Miko (Hololive) Suikawa Lead

> PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
2x: Njisanji

> PER STREAMER
4x: Miko
2x: Hololive
1x: Subaru, Rika, Nijisanji

>>84911353
she had TWO TT collabs across those two years, you retarded obsessed fag
meanwhile she was collabing with her kohai as soon as possible, pushed for shortening IRyS' isolation with Ina, helped Mumei get her song out while Cover was majorly fucking her over, accepted every feature invite from her senpai despite working three jobs, became good friends with Mel and Roboco offstream (something a catalog only fag would have obviously no idea about) and despite dealing with the same shit management and lack of support, she was one of the few that actually put more and more time into streaming and projects
fuck you and your magical thinking

Yawn
Mousey 12k
>floprys 5k(8k raided)

>>84911624
kys crossposter

Time for a Korean branch Cover.

https://x.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1833418095379288258
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/artselection_shirakamifubuki
>>84847393

>>84911625
She's not even the strongest Advent

>>84911632
you do realize that if you mixed those colors you would get brown right?

>>84911624
It's bloody obvious, especially considering how they acted afterwards.

>>84911497
>>84911524
>>84911554
>>84911585
>>84911655
i am so happy that i pulled this bitch in 20 pulls

>>84911516
>The cute embarrassed giggles as she admits it's her first time
She's a succubus in waiting, I'm sure she will be on the same level as Sora or IRyS in few years

>>84911624
Waste of oxygen.
>How does it FEEL guise?!
>N-no you need to play along with my delusions or I won't reply!!
Sounds like one of those body-language experts who is high on his own farts thinking he has it all figured out based on extremely convenient interpretations of scant information.

>>84911655
SEPTEMBER 2024 SILVER
>1) 92,146: Miko (Hololive) Gen0 collab + announcement
>2) 48,526: Miko (Hololive) Minecraft holoserver tour
>3) 44,784: Miko (Hololive) 7days to die #Holo7DTD
>4) 36,591: Miko (Hololive) Koemane King
>5) 40,035: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) The k4sen FF14
>6) 52,107: Lauren (Nijisanji) New Outfit
>7) 59,914: Hololive (Hololive) Hololive’s 7th anniversary special stream
>8) 50,503: Miko (Hololive) HoloMinecraft Hardcore: Day 2
>9) 43,189: Gura (Hololive) 2.0 Reveal

> PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
5x: Miko
1x: Kuzuha, Lauren, Hololive, Gura

>>84911685
UH OH uhhhh brown = mumei so it's fine!

What is the gold for today aside from regloss anniversary

>>84911679
>Most views
>Not a parasocial ebeggar
Sounds like a win to me.

>>84911660
>she had TWO TT collabs
She was skipping myth collabs to hang out with them IRL and do collabs with them on her rm. No holo has gone as low as peak lean arc era Mori, I respect that she has clearly changed a lot but this desperate revisionism is pathetic.

>>84911734
SEPTEMBER 2024 BRONZE
>1) 46,719: Pekora (Hololive) Pekora minecraft server w/ 100 nousagi
>2) 48,191: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) The k4sen FF14
>3) 42,515: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) The k4sen FF14
>4) 28,087: Subaru (Hololive) Super Mario Bros 3 World8
>5) 39,103: Pekora (Hololive) Monster Strike
>6) 46,029: Miko (Hololive) HoloMinecraft Hardcore: Day 1
>7) 36,962: Sora (Hololive) 7th anniversary party
>8) 37,814: Subaru (Hololive) Dragon Quest IV
>9) 40,113: Fuwa (Nijisanji) One Million Endurance Stream

> PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
2x: Kuzuha, Pekora, Subaru
1x: Miko, Sora, Fuwa

>>84911719
Sora isn't erotic

>Let's get that load off of her chest
IRyS PLEASE...

>>84911707
I have no gacha luck, all of it vanished to the wind playing TFT...

>>84911752
arent those bots

>>84911679
at the end of the day, the girls who constantly do superchat reading will always be the biggest earners, even Gura doesn't get nearly as much superchats as the money farmers, another proof that CCV and subscriptions are meme numbers
the only numbers that actually matter are superchats, merch sales and sponsorship frequency

https://www.youtube.com/live/8_oVN_Up1AA?si=GKThPsHxB5sufxMj
PekoAyame shilling lenovo

>>84911624
wait does this mean all homos are together when he decides to reply that bait tweet? >>84908858

>>84911794
It's a a common expression anon, but this is also IRyS, so...

>>84911793
>Sora isn't erotic

>>84911660
No this is horse shit fuck you. Mori was recalcitrant and unfriendly in the group collabs but lit up and played along with her faggot eceleb friends, she “accepted every invite” to promote herself while making it as clear as possible that the whole thing was embarrassing and cringe and she’d rather be anywhere else and the whole time deadbeats were cheerleading and begging Cover to let her make hololive even worse. She brapped everywhere and retards like you huffed it up and it’s the entire reason we had to deal with the “EN are comedians, not idols” and “holopro” eras because Cover saw you fart huffers and thought you would actually watch the streams you were asking for, Mori and her shitty attitude ruined hololive

>>84911624
>trying to compare the two homos to Rushia
lmao trying to make it look like they're on equal footing to the most superchatted holo is just pathetic.

>click ONE (1) video of a bloke doing a good job cleaning some pavement with a pressure cleaner
>get one video per row of gardening and cleaning in my recommends
Holy fuck YouTube! Their recommendation algo now is
>You watched one video of something? FROM NOW ON ALL YOU WANT IS THAT SOMETHING!
Have to clear it from my watched list now

SEPTEMBER 2024 HIGHLANDER
>1) 107,848: Hololive (Hololive) Holo Summer Bingo lottery
>2) 60,469: Miko (Hololive) KoemaneOu
>3) 69,212: Subaru (Hololive) Chained Together w/ Miko
>4) 26,133: Lui (Hololive) talking collab [4th]
>5) 40,035: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) FF14
>6) 68,007: Rika (Nijisanji) 3D debut
>7) 36,962: Sora (Hololive) 7th anniversary party
>8) 92,975: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Niji Music Fes 2024 announcement
>9) 43,189: Gura (Hololive) 2.0 Reveal

> PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>>84911793
True, she's a tier above that, she's sultry

>>84911827
yeah

>>84911752
>most views
ultra long streams + bots
also lowest likes as result

>>84911757
your muddling of the situation is what's desperate, trying to paint an entire two and a half year period with broadest strokes that focus ONLY on the low points while ignoring the veritable and verifiable amount of work and connections Mori made with Holo
but that's exactly what I grown to expect from catalog fags

>>84911803
In the way that 'numbers I don't like are bots' I guess?

>Mori seethe in 2024
people change, why haven't you?

>>84911818
>/live/
>si=GKThPsHxB5sufxMj
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

>>84911845
Wow, this is the most retarded conclusion to this i could ever imagine.

>>84911846
>Their recommendation algo now is
>now
It was like that for years

>>84911839
>ruined Hololive
so what do you watch nowadays?
Phase Connect, I'm guessing?

>>84911818
ASUS really fucked themselves over the cancellation of the fubuki and botan collab back then, eh?

>>84911871
Why can't people just accept this new and feminized Mori and be glad she turned her ship around?

>>84911859
I agree, I really respect Mori for being a good friend to the boys and collabing with them unlike those parasocial whores who act like their male coworkers don't exist

>>84911624
>>84911724
To be fair, its obvious they were terminated, anon is just giving two examples of a graduation and a termination and asking which is most similar to the "graduation" the homos got.
If answering that question destroys the argument that they left on their own terms, then it's clear people are just coping about the graduation

so uh, Pekora and my oshi is shilling Lenovo

>>84911846
i watched one breast pumping video but im not getting more so you are wrong

>>84911913
In hindsight for me personally the collab she did with Fauna in party animals was the start of me rethinking things, the dungeon collab and not following armpiss was important too

>>84911871
>people change
Not in eyes of schizo that is trying hard to convince everyone that she was always good

>numbers thread
>Not talking about numbers

>>84911934
at least they can shill it now without the chinkmeltdown

>>84911913
I am glad she turned her ship around but I will not pretend that early Mori wasn't the worst talent in hololive history

>>84911857
We're talking about views not CCV
It's well known YouTube filter CCV bots from the VOD views
She got the strongest views in advent for game content even beating fuwamoco

>>84911913
I'm also wondering why

>>84911624
leddit botted post of the day

>>84911624
I mean.... when graduation is the term used for the stopping of all activities on amicable terms, you have to agree that they graduated. While they were definitely faggots full of themselves who thought they could just take all of their pre-existing audience with them, they still left on neutral terms enough for Cover to not void their contracts.

>>84911473
Sir thats what you call the "brand of hololive"

>>84911913
i was a huge Mori hater when she definitely deserved it but now i feel genuine respect and admiration for her as a person and as a talent, most criticism towards her nowadays are completely unjustified, she's a completely different person now

>>84911814
>sponsorship
wouldn't companies pick the most subscribed (Fuwamoco) instead of "constant 10k streamer Koseki Bijou"

>>84911952
or maybe the schizos are the people who ignore two years of hard work and act like it was all bad, all the time and not continous growth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OakBLxqUkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OakBLxqUkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OakBLxqUkg

Shut up and watch Matsuri!!!

So like, what's the deal with IM's VOD channel that I keep hearing about?
Was she running it, or somebody else?
Is it a big deal or just nothingburger?

>>84912014
My take on it as well

>>84911973
>I will not pretend that early Mori wasn't the worst talent in hololive history
Just be glad for how things are now instead of being locked in a hell of your own creation.

>>84911933
>It's similarererer to this so it's actually maybe probably the same!!
Is a ridiculously stupid or disingenuous argument you dumb fuck, to then turn around and pre-emptively accuse people of being disingenuous if they don't play by his ridiculous rules is another laughably disingenuous take.

You my friend, might actually be genuinely retarded.

>>84912014
This post reads like a parody.

>>84911973
>worst talent in Hololive's history
this is exactly the kind of retardation I'm talking about

>>84912047
I am not locked in anything, I will continue to enjoy current Mori while correcting deadbeats who try to rewrite history here

>>84912020
No, companies pick the ones that shill the hardest and can actually cough up money

>>84911974
anon shut up its just 7 days which was all enreco

>>84911532
>Capcom striked Holo with the force of thousands suns
>Ends up sponsoring Holo
>Atlus not giving Holo perms
>Ends up sponsoring Holo
Why does this keep happening?

I miss nene. Glanced watame’s frame and I thought this was nene and she’s back.

>>84912045
>Shut up and watch Matsuri!!!
lol no

>>84911624
SKIPPA SKIPPA

>>84912044
Likely run by the same bloke that runs all VOD channels for TT + Chris Broad and slag, he has a sweet arrangement with them
>edits the VODs and runs the channel
>gets half the revenue
Doesn't seem like a somethingburger, only yet another blackmark for people whose content is to take what other people produced and put in their channel for profit

>>84912068
TuT this is more classy than spats, to be honest

>>84911871
Antis don't know that
You can find Twitterfags who still seethe about her saying the nigga word some 15 years ago.
It's weird, but then again schizos are weird

>>84912082
I think someone who actually watched syreams has more valuable opinion here

NTRyS.....

>in shojo mangas the kind ones always end up being friendzoned
wtf...

>>84912080
So which holo has done something worse than Mori retweeting a twitter shitpost from an anti about her cucking her fanbase with a trash taste faggot, then went on reddit to defend herself only to get downvoted by the fucking reddit hugbox, only to end up using drugs as an excuse before correcting herself and saying that actually she thought lean meant wine

ReGLOSS anniversary predictions? 50k? 100k?

>>84912045
I'm watching IRyS, so no.

IShowSpeed is the king of youtuber streamers huh, comparing him and hololive feels depressing

>>84912073
>its this because management said it is even though its completely different from any past and future occurence of this thing!
Actual brain dead take, if someone calls a cockroach a chicken will you start eating its eggs? Retard

>>84912134
Rushia gave doxx to a dramafag

>>84912020
Why would they? The point of advertising isn't to just catch a few stray whales but to reach a wider audience and go as viral as possible. It's a drag net, not a whaling harpoon.

>>84912147
you mean the king of literal children a.k.a new Ninja

>>84911752
>Most views
For the record she doesn't have the most views either.

>>84912134
>retweeting a twitter shitpost
She apologized about it, but I guess forgiving isx too bizzare a concept for your brain
>using drugs as an excuse
Holy ESL

>>84912097
honestly that's just because Hololive became too big that they're coming back kneeling to them. if they failed to capitalize on the coof craze and stayed mid, Capcom would gladly give the killing blow to Mio.

>>84912104
>>84912140
what about now??

>>84911974
The views came from long streams and viewers joining-exiting. But the bots clearly helped since most people would go check a LIVE showing high CCV.

Ironmouse still beat the shit out of bijou lmao
holokeks mald as always

>>84912136
30k

>>84911871
Because she fucked up three years of my favorite thing. I’m glad she straightened her shit out but she spent all that time deliberately trying to ruin something unique and interesting by making it more like her favorite western ecelebs and I’m never going to like her.

>>84912191
Maybe if IRyS ends before Matusri starts, otherwise still a no.

>>84911839
SKIPPA SKIPPA

>>84912134
>the catalog nigger still thinks there was drug use involved
I rest my case, you people live in your own fantasy land

>>84912191
no
she promised to do thing to get gachis back yet did fuck all

>>84912190
>Capcom would gladly give the killing blow to Mio.
They wouldn't be able, not after 30 days because that's when the strikes clear and, by then, the Holocaust had already happened

>shark 43k
>mousey 45k

>>84911814
>sc cope
really, are we still doing this

>>84912191
ive seen her brown nipples so no

>>84912159
Mel gave PC access to a Nijinig

>>84912183
44m > 31m

>>84912188
>Holy ESL
She literally said she had "hit the lean"
I have absolutely forgiven her which is why I watch her streams with no issues nowadays but that still doesn't erase her mistakes, nor does it change the fact that, I repeat, early Mori was the worst talent in the history of hololive.

>>84912157
>N-no it's not identical so it must be something else entirely!! Management lies! I have zero proof beyond conveniently interpreting things in a crooked way to push a demented narrative but it's totally true!
Lol. Quite full of yourself aren't you. It's at the same time very different from Terminations and other Graduations, but it fits your narrative better to ignore the first part so you can keep insisting it was a termination, even though your objections actually dismiss your own fantasy already. Your entire rrat is self-defeating you spastic retard.

>>84912213
>>84912234
You sure??

>>84911973
>Anyone who disagrees with my braindead retardation is pretending

>>84912091
>>84912174
Are these anons retarded or are they actually right?

>>84912183
Yeah she does only for gaming content since she doesn't spam shorts like Shiori, double stream at the same time like fuwamoco or have big songs like nerissa
She needs to start making shorts, better late than never like Fauna

ironmouse has max 45k ccv after 10 years of streaming
holokeks really wish they can hit that numbers

>>84912240
i don't see how earning more money is cope versus monetarily useless numbers
unless you are talking about muh horseraces

>>84912183
wissa......

>>84912210
no, your retarded brain fucked up your favorite thing, because Mori's own stuff always had minimal impact on what other girls were doing, aside from getting them extra sponsorships

>>84912134
>Memoryholing Rushia and even Hitomi Chris
Kill yourself, waste of oxygen subhuman faggot. Go take your hyperbolism somewhere nigger.

>>84912188
>Holy ESL
why is it always Holy ESL when someone gets tripped up on the easiest to parse shit

>>84912275
>she does only for gaming content
That's surely a way to hyper-specialise a metric but I doubt anyone has a "VOD Views in gaming streams" ranking in this thread.
What's next?
>highest CCV for a gaming stream except dacha
Oh, wait ...

>>84912282
45k on twitch is like 180k on youtube. this is without the lockdown buff and the blue dorito japanese audience leeching buff too

my main takeaway with the ongoing discussion is that you can be the most reformed man/woman in the world, but /#/ will still see you as evil for the rest of your life because of that one small offense you did 10 years ago.

>holofags wants pomu
>starsisters wants shu
match made in garden

>>84912044
Her VoD channel got struck and she isn’t fighting it because disputing would mean attaching her name because it’s her channel as opposed to Holos where it’s registered as Cover Corp

>>84912282
you wish you could speak english
you wish you could convince anyone you actually give a fuck about ironlung

>>84912287
Because superchats will always pale in comparison to merch and sponsorship numbers.

>>84912324
>45k on twitch is like 180k on youtube.
Amusingly, that would STILL lose to catshark

>>84912197
>most people would go check a LIVE showing high CCV
This was already proven to be insignificant multiple times
Also I'm talking about VODs with roughly the same length, it's easy to compare since she also has a ton of 3-4 hours VODs like her genmates

>>84912261
>very different from Terminations
How so? Explain because in my eyes its completely the same situation as rushia with the exception of saying the word graduation
>initial suspension of talent
>investigation period
>kicked out of acess from youtube and social media accounts
>seething by the talents after the fact for years
Meanwhile its completely different from the other graduations we've had

>>84911221
I mean, if you're starting out as a new corpo and debuting the bare minimum of 3 talents required for a box, what do you do next?
Entertaining content is needed of course, but how do you market yourself in the modern chuuba world where the clip algo is completely in the hands of the big corpos? Do Youtube ads even work?
And how do you make connections without enough of a viewership clout to negotiate on a equal footing? If you want an artist to draw your chuubas, you HAVE to give them something, and if you're starting out you have no fanbase to give them, so is money the only way? It's not really a healthy start, and it's highly unlikely that the artist will ever watch the streams of your girls or take the initiative to draw them himself.

The more I look back on Hololive's growth the more it feels like a "right place, right time" type of story that can never be replicated again.

>>84912324
cope holoturd kek

>>84912352
remove the japanese audience and sharkie's all time peak would be sub-30k

>>84912307
Behind the scenes drama that you read about here isn't content. As a talent all that Rushia did was accidentally show a discord notification from mfmf and then get terminated after a week or two of radio silence for an NDA breach.

https://x.com/PROMlNENCES/status/1833181664140206597
This girl has fully switched her oshis, now I get why male vtubers donot have long term careers

>>84911660
two things can be true at the same time, nigger. Lean Mori was actually destructive to HoloEN and heavily contributed to their low morale and loss of momentum. Hanging out with TT grifter faggots and sacrificing her own genmates was also awful as well. You can't fucking deny that. It's also true that her behavior right now with her fellow genmates and branchmates helped them tremendously and she's actually behaving like a proper senpais who loves Hololive now. Personally I'm unable to forgive her because of her behavior back then was truly destructive but I've changed my stance from hatred to slight respect. She also appeared to be quite remorseful of what she did back then.

>>84912329
I hold a grudge forever. I don't actively hate like some of these people, but I absolutely will never forgive.

>>84912344
Still upset 90% of your branch can't even beat a small non idol rrat kek

>>84912287
You're one step removed from pulling the ol' 'they get good supas so they make more money than the top talents' just like the chinkfujos used to do with Luxiem. Oh wait, you already did that, which is why I'm calling you out.

>>84912097
hopefull sony ends up giving perms to holo at the very least.. wishiful thinking ofc

>>84912396
Same
When Gura called herself a prostitute when playing with a man, I knew I'd never forgive her

>>84912410
every single holoEN has beat that 45k from 2022 you keep bragging about though

>>84912329
It wasn’t one small offense and it wasn’t ten years ago and I do not believe she’s genuinely changed because people like that don’t tend to

>>84912382
roru
rumao even
you are just jealous about irys having 90k ccv for her redesign
ironmouse only got 15k last time kek

>>84912329
no, it's just that we have some retarded equivalent of Twitter niggers that refuse to look at the entirety of a person aside from the snippets they choose to focus on to attack them (exactly same type of people keeps attacking Gura on the catalog for being "lazy")
also might be stealth Nijiniggers/Phasefags, because the claims that Hololive was bad for 3 years usually comes from people who jumped ship

>>84912338
That's not just it. She's not disputing it because she's admittedly in the wrong according to the person who seems to be running the channel

>>84912347
That's true but, on the subject that opened this whole conversation (>>84911679), Bijou is not ahead of FWMC in merch or sponsorship numbers either.
Maybe you're debating on behalf of some unmentioned chuuba but it doesn't seem like that's what folks are talking about

>>84912329
Honestly there's too many talents, so why should I watch you if you ever fucked up? I can just pick a talent up from the ones that have a spotless record
Good for mori and kronii for being reformed, I genuinely wish them the best, but there's talents that never fucked up in the first place that are, as such, better than they are

>>84912410
is that "small non idol rrat" in this room with us right now?

>>84912364
heh if ever a vtuber/vtuber corpo see a meteoric rise in fame, we as holoCHADs will just cut off their legs before they even become a threat to us.

>>84912443
do you have a link to this?

When’s the next mori patch gonna be released? This mori v4.5 is beloved too much. Need to balance

>>84912364
>The more I look back on Hololive's growth the more it feels like a "right place, right time" type of story that can never be replicated again
This is retarded. Hololive is successful because enough of their early talents were good enough to stand out. If a new corpo debuted now with enough advertising to get at least a few people to watch their debuts and a Fubuki tier talent they would get at least some traction. If they followed that up with an Aqua tier talent shortly after, etc. they would most likely keep doing well. Plenty of other vtuber corpos debuted before and after hololive and none of them grew as big.

>>84912395
Holy shit you faggots are impossible to take seriously.

>>84911871
The answer is phasecucks

>>84912443
>guy asks for a prostitute on stream with gura
>gura goes like wtf are you saying in my stream "i am right here" could you not
>SHE CALLED HERSELF A PROSTITUTE GAIIS

>>84912363
>proven
by whom? even I got occasionally shocked when seeing Biboo's insane CCV on my homepage and until a few weeks ago pebbles were still bragging about her CCV on X.

>>84912334
>holofags wants pomu

>>84912396
Who’s an edgy little boy?
You are, yes you are my little edgelord!

>>84912447
>sharkie 2.0 reveal couldn't beat mousey's 45k

Phasecuck raiding /#/ again
they want everyone to not forget senpai gomene stream

>>84911905
yes, holo shilling always works considering FubuMiko shilled HP and everything sold out easily
literally losing millions just for 1 shitpost......

i have never seen a real IM fan shilling her

>>84912525
lmao can't accept your defeat to the hot pink one, the sexiest of all holos irys? i accept your concession

>>84912491
Deadbraps loved the worst of Mori’s bad behavior and wish she would go back. They’ll go around saying she’s reformed, but ask “reformed from what?” And they’ll tell you her behavior was always good.

>>84912387
No, I'm done with your hyperbolism, go seethe on Twitter together with bvtm if you're trying to die on this hill.

>>84912499

>>84912364
>"right place, right time" type of story that can never be replicated again.
Everything in history is exactly that, even the failures. Vox rise and fall (mostly caused by insulting the mother of a fellow liver and breaking the heart of the chinese) is also a "right place, right time" situation, that doesn't narrow things down a lot.

Succeeding in the entertainment world was ALWAYS the consequence of one of these two things
1) enough investment to "muscle in" into a market until, after years, it turns profitable (or bankrupts itself in the process)
2) getting mad lucky of offering EXACTLY what the market needed at that exact time

There is no case that I know that anyone succeeded deliberately in the entertainment business with a small monetary investment and a fool proof business plan. It is always either "massive amounts of venture capital money" or "being at the right place the right time"

>>84912571
Yes, phasecuck seethe

>>84912395
>two things can be true at the same time, nigger.
maybe if you're a fucking retarded child throwing a tantrum
Mori having low points or rough edges does not in any way invalidate the absolute shitload of work she was doing for Holo, her continuosly growing more involved, supportive and proactive in forming connections
it's absolute retard binary thinking that some switch was magically flipped, result of mental laziness and only sucking up the most dramatic and shallow interpretation of events

>>84912525
>sub 44k shark

>>84912445
>>84912471
>cover, sponsors and advertisers care about followers/ subscribers which mouse is still mogging 90% of the en branch in kek

>>84912557
/vsj/ has them
they loathe this thread

>>84912112
These are just fancy spats until they model the 3D bloomers

>>84912329
/#/ is not one person. For example, I do not prescribe to that philosophy at all. That behaviour is endemic to Twitterniggers. Even Ollie and ERB could eventually win over if they changed. I seriously doubt they ever would, but I don't want any holomem to believe that trying is pointless. In Mori's case, this shit wasn't a decade ago and wasn't an isolated incident. I'm still not at the point that I'm actively following what she's doing, but I no longer feel like a stream is made worse by her mere presence.

>>84911839
Next thing you're going to say is either "This is why I switched to watchingPhase".

>sleepathon

BREAKING : irys is the only EN live right now from all corpos

>>84912273
It's a mixed bag but advertising companies are retarded so you never know what they decide on. There's an argument for either.
>FWMC has the most parasocial fans, so their fans might end up buying whatever game they shill
>At the same time FWMCs fans have a troubled reputation for being overly parasocial and most companies don't want to create an association with such a crowd, as that can be risky and backfire
>Has some possibly risky habits like talking about eroge, something most normie advertisers wouldn't want to be associated with
>Twin theme is great for streaming and performances, but has no real reach in terms of plain marketing
Smart marketeer stays away because of the risks of long-term reputational damage.

>Biboo is entirely sanitized by comparison, shows lots of enthusiasm for any game she's played and doesn't really have any sharp edges to her persona or activities
>Is at worst a "loli" adjacent vtuber but she hasn't done any of the usual pedobaiting that is common with that model type so there aren't that many overt uoooooos out there.
>Can be easily marketed to children and has a convenient magical girl aesthetic
But again, marketeers make retarded decisions same as any other company, so it's not like you can make a particularly reliable assessment.

It's 5:40 am, what are you clowns even doing with this pointless arguing.

>>84912614
well I do watch Phase and they are much better than evryone in holo

>>84912329
>/#/
Morischizos aren't /#/

>>84912585
>keep investing until you succeed
More homos coming right up

Is the mousefag trying to prove that Mouse is supposedly a top EN vtuber OR would be in the avg category of HoloEN... I dont understand his point

>>84912566
>needed a raid to hit 6k
Meanwhile mousey has had 12k+ for 35 hours straight kek

>>84912657
>or bankrupts itself in the process

>>84912508
Holy cope
>>84912486
https://streamable.com/k7o5na

>>84912659
His point is to troll the thread

>>84911814
>Subs don't matter
They matter the most. Subs are the ultimate goal for both v-tubers and companies who use them first to advertise. Then everything else depending on what type of creator you are. Ex: VOD views matter more if you're more focus on video content or music; superchat you do GFE; merch sales if you're part of a larger branding like gen or corpo. to stand out and get more offers.

>>84912638
It's 11:45 AM here in beautiful Botswana

>>84912659
just accept your loss pebblecuck. Ironmouse numbers are organic and she's pretty much the best vtuber in EN

>>84912633
>Live

>>84912631
>4 year en old en branch leeching off the more successful jp branch and only two have hit 2mil kek

>>84912362
>Initial suspension of talent
Headcanon.
>investigation period
Headcanon.
>kicked out of acess from youtube and social media accounts
Same for graduated talents
>seething by the talents after the fact for years
Headcanon.
Yeah it's exactly like terminations if you just make shit up and assume whatever you like buddy.

>>84911624
Ehhhh I might have bought this if not for the fact that not a single homo either in JP or EN have had graduation streams when they left.
Even when they left on relatively good terms, like that green shota.

>>84912659
>higher ccv average then 90% of your en branch kek

>>84912676
KEK this is the chumbie kryptonite, always funny

>>84912672
Which is why it’s important holos should support them

>>84912634
>At the same time FWMCs fans have a troubled reputation for being overly parasocial and most companies don't want to create an association with such a crowd, as that can be risky and backfire
>Has some possibly risky habits like talking about eroge, something most normie advertisers wouldn't want to be associated with
>Twin theme is great for streaming and performances, but has no real reach in terms of plain marketing
>Biboo is entirely sanitized by comparison, shows lots of enthusiasm for any game she's played and doesn't really have any sharp edges to her persona or activities
I doubt Execs know or care about this

>Is at worst a "loli" adjacent vtuber but she hasn't done any of the usual pedobaiting that is common with that model type so there aren't that many overt uoooooos out there.
Biboo is too sexy

>Can be easily marketed to children
That's Gura

>>84912691
I agree, companies will just check subcount or google trends

>>84912676
>i'm right here what the fuck?
She was clearly complaining about him being so crass you've never watched gura if you don't get it

>>84912764
Love this art

i forgave "condom money" Mori
i forgave "unfortunately idol culture" Kronii
i forgave "improve yourself" Ame
i will forgive "homoslurper" ERB too if she keeps up the good behaviour because she was genuinely funny in enreco
simple as.

It begins

>>84912695
>>84912744
>ignoring the samefagging
gotcha, so she is NOT the top of EN vtubing, we agree on that

>>84912499
>Phaseplap Mori astroturfs in /#/
Of course it had to them

>>84912790
>12k gigabuff minecraft stream
>2.0 lost to mousey's 45k
flopshark

>5k back on taxes
That'll pay for my Holo merch for the next year at least I guess

>>84912809
>cant beat irys numbers
lmao at your mousey

>>84912781
>because she was genuinely funny in enreco
I agree she was so good there, almost as funny as her oshi Gavis Bettel

We're reclining

>>84912659
He is actually a mouse anti using mousey on his shitpost so people can shit on her. Don't mind him coz he apparently no job or smth.

Lots of low quality trolling here, why isn't it being cleaned up? Couple of clicks that's all it takes

>>84912841
in thread IQ

>>84912830
>back on taxes
That's an interest free loan you're giving to the government, which profits by docking more money out of your paycheque than you owe.
Gotta try to optimise this, chief!

>>84912859
The jannies love ennacuck for some reason

Enna is still better than IRyS anyway

>>84912875
https://streamable.com/729k04

>>84912776
>where's the prostitutes?
>I'm right here, what the fuck
Gura was his little prostitute whether you like it or not
You'll never get her to say that to you

Kson still the best

>>84912875
What's Enna up to nowadays. Barely hear anything about her.

>>84912886
keep seething about enna irystocuck
you seething on her only just makes her stronger

>>84912908
>sub 80k shark

Lol she's afraid of falling below 500k

>>84912898
She went into hiding

>1k waiting for ReGLOSS already
yeah, this is going to be big

Heh

>>84912919
lmao you are definitely malding about enna

>>84912694

>>84912767
>I doubt Execs know or care about this
Execs get a proposal on their desk and sign off on it. At most you get a "hey I heard these are popular lets advertise using some of them" and then the number monkeys get cranking on whoever is the best pick based on whatever model they are using to estimate payoffs. Bigger, juicier sponsorships come from companies that definitely do risk assessments, but it's not uncommon to just see thoughtless marketing sweeps as well (RAID is a good example, or war thunder, hell even Parrot picked up a sponsorship twice somehow)

>That's Gura
I agree, that's why she gets a ton of sponsorships. I don't see FWMC having a similar kind of broad appeal but Biboo has a good look for it. Hell she's already got the whole ticktock brainrot nonsense that will appeal to younger audiences.

>>84912659
How do we still have retarded niggers in this thread that think he's an ironmouse fan?

Nice discord brigade faggots

Reminder that this is a thing
https://youtu.be/NIv_yYKl9tQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yBuYv3fkPs
Surprised at how little biboo is able to know the concept of pc overheating at young age, she's a woman at that. I didn't know shit about how PC work until I'm in college

>>84912638
It's actually morning in Europe

>>84912927
The DORYA will be magnificent

>>84912887
>You'll never get her to say that to you
>gura literally said she'd service me personally last stream
Never watched gura confirmed

>>84912941
>JP audience boosted holoEN numbers
does not count

>>84912980
cope

>>84912859
Seanig janny is a holoan, guaranteed he'a also shitting the thread right now

>>84912951
queen of kaigai makes you seethe

>>84912980
ironmouse USA numbers doesnt count also
only Puerto rico ccv counts

>Phase mogged by NijiEN
#2 in the EN sphere btw

>>84912919
>sub 193k western scene
Couldn't be my shark

>>84912887
ESL-kun, in English that kind of response is a complaint, not an acknowledgement.
>I'm right here
By itself would be an acknowledgement
>What the fuck (are you saying)
Is a very clear complaint, and you need to be pretty fucking stupid not to realize.

>>84912888
at whoring herself out? yes she is

>>84912966
I’m a tech illiterate and I know that because when it was summer my laptop/ps4 would just turn off after like an hour max

>>84912939
>Botgloss
Ririka customer service bots and Raden Zhang bots incoming

>>84912966
she was using a laptop so she probably felt the heat

>>84913004
yes I seethe about Enna on how beautiful and talented she is
how about your ugly goblina? kek

>euro hours
>thread is shit
Every time

>>84912898
Graduation Soon

>>84912781
I forgave Kronii and I’ll probably end up forgiving ERB, but not Mori or Ame

>>84912941
>still upset shitrys is a sub 6k shitter

>>84911624
Nah, it's pretty obvious that they had a lawyer write up a new contract, cover rejected it, then they said okay then we won't renew the old contract, and cover said cool.

>>84913028
>Ao-kun VCR bots

IronSleeper wishes she was as relevant as Filian and Neuro-sama kekaroo

I'm only shitting this thread because I want Ironmouse to be the OP image next thread

Fuwawa shameless tits

I still don't understand why ID had such sharp dropoffs for their full gen 3D collabs compared to their individual showcases.

Amecucks....

>>84913083
Why are you admitting to trolling?

>>84913007
>Vantacrow bringer
Why not Vanta Crowbringer instead? Is he retarded?

>>84913019
Lucky, my PC outright caught fire, I haven't turned off task manager since

>>84913110
No mods no gods

>>84913118
Yeah and it's a retarded name

>>84913110
because that was my first post in the thread

>>84913118
If he wasn't retarded he wouldn't still be in nijisanji

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhrNF5WKEKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhrNF5WKEKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhrNF5WKEKY

>>84913081
>>84913083
>>84913110
Yawn
All thst jp leeching and they couldn't even beat mousey....

>>84913118
guessing Vantacrow sounds better than just Vanta?

>>84913129
ABAYO

>>84912073
Kaoru left on the same terms that the two idiots did but they wiped his channel off the face of the earth.
Kira was the only homo who graduated properly and he was too sick to do a graduation stream.
Do remember that dumb and dumber were suspended from streaming for a month before they got kicked out.

>>84913097
Individual showcases are more accessible to EN audiences than collabs where they yell over each other in klingon

>>84912587
prioritizing a literal grifter faggots who shittallk member of your agencies for clicks while putting your own fucking genmates and audiences in a sort of disdain and disinterest is not just "low points" you deadbrap faggots. You retards always pretending to make it as if Mori did absolutely nothing wrong even though she and omegatranny nearly killed HoloEN with their behavior.

>>84913163
>dev_is channel
yeah it's not getting past 30k

hey soratom-
tokinofag, I got a question:
does Sora-chan play BA? Has she ever mentioned on stream

WHERE IS THE WARDEN

>>84913118
Vanta is too similar to Fanta. Lawsuit waiting to happen.

>>84913187
she likes Hina

>>84913019
How fucking hot does it need to be for a laptop to hit thermal limits and force shut down?

>>84913187
The only gacha she really talks about is Romancing Saga one, she even streamed it before

>private maid

>>84913215
Dust buildup

>private maid

>>84913165
>#2
who's the number one huh? hmm i wonder

>>84913163
Raden and Hajime would've made it in JP7. The rest are NGMI.

https://youtu.be/OKIX_rAlmmM?si=w89w_xn9YiSAcw76
>making a big deal about turning into a hag
Dunno if based or cringe

>>84913075
I think that totally happened but there's more to that for sure
If it was just that why would they not let them stream or post on their accounts anymore then?
Did they not just absolutely hate their fans but also not think it a good idea to try diverting fans to their new/old accounts? Even just one stream saying "yeah we will graduate but you might find us out somehwere else" would guarantee they get many more fans to cross over
>I know what I'll do, I hate my fans so i won't try to engage with them whatsoever but i expect all of them to cross over to my fan account despite me not engaging with them whatsoever and making them think i hate them! That'll work!
Also why did they get suspended before the "graduation" as well? If it was just contract issues that wouldn't have happened right? Again it's all speculation but so are these guesses that "they actually did nothing wrong and left on their own terms" when if that was indeed what happened things wouldn't be so abrupt

>>84913215
Cleaning hort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OakBLxqUkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OakBLxqUkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OakBLxqUkg
Matsuri with Senchou hat

>>84913215
Depends on the brand. Normal operating temps will do that to a HP laptop easily.

>>84913177
more like you dramaniggers always look for another high of a failed thing, because your brain ate too broken to see any positivity
trying to push continued failures of management onto Mori is even more pathetic

>>84913243
THE SHARK

>>84913172
Kaoru was terminated
https://x.com/cover_corp/status/1287946514975739905

>>84913243
>sub 2 shark

>>84913262
moona...

>>84913252
She'll incline from this because of the context of hag in the vtuber fandom

>he's just randomly dumping his prehistoric doxx folder now
actually mindbroken by HoloKINGS

>>84913303
>concedes mousey lost to "sub 2 shark"

>>84913187
i appreciate lolis, but there's something about Blue Archive that makes characters there look unappealing to me. i can't pinpoint why.

>>84913172
>but they wiped his channel off the face of the earth
Isn't that because he was actually terminated
https://x.com/cover_corp/status/1287946514975739905

>>84913289
what the flying fuck are you fucking on? I even praised Mori for actually changing and genuinely loving Hololive but you're too fucking retarded and blinded by rage to see it. You, trying to downplay her destructive past will genuinely makes Mori mad because even she was not proud of what she did back then. You're so fucking blind it's crazy.

>>84913325
>>84913293
>>84913243
>still upset mori and mousey mog your nonstream whore kek

>>84913325
>reconguista in g

>>84913326
you are gay
you get horny to CalArts artstyle

Got recommended this girls Asmr. Check the channel only 1k subs. Check the creation date and it's Sept 2020. Look at twitter and she's a corpo girl. I don't see any secret lewd channel so I'm struggling to understand how this is justified? They have tons of vtubers with 1kish followers. Do they do shady stuff to them?

>>84913256
>If it was just that why would they not let them stream or post on their accounts anymore then?
Tons of possibilities so people tend to just pick whichever suits their particular rrat.

Could be suspension (makes little sense imo, as that would affect them if they managed to come to an agreement)
Could be they went on a sort of strike until their demands were met since they would just end up leaving anyway if negotiations fell through
Could be they just needed more time to come to an arrangement and had to suspend activities until an actual contract was signed

>>84913324
All that money pebblekek spent on bots and she couldn't even get 1st place....

>>84912722
>kicked out of acess from youtube and social media accounts
>Same for graduated talents
Not before they graduate retard

>seething by the talents after the fact for years
>Initial suspension of talent
>Headcanon.
??????????????
Retard god

>>84913359
your mousey still lost to irys kek

>>84913252
She's always been open about her age since debut. Insisted on using her real age as a vtuber. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing but it's hardly a surprise she's celebrating her birthday.

Oh yeah it's euro hours alright

>>84913362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuvZenKSl1k
>bellri kills everyone

>>84913401
>sub athon 2k24 its in the game

>>84913370
wrong.

>>84913427
I'm still pissed at how much they gutted G-Reco in SRW X. G-Self Perfect Pack was strong at the very least anyway.

Its over
https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/1833448452195299543

>>84913388
>hours watched
>streamed herself sleeping for multiple days in a row
KEKYPOW

>>84913397
>Not before they graduate
>I really think this is relevant!!
Retard.

>They didn't stream
>This means they were suspended
Retardchama pls. Your delusions are too much.

>>84913422
>ID Doxx
>blame euros

only shitskin indogs can get those

>>84912634
anon unless you're a WELL KNOWN brand risk, advertirsers only care if you have the power to sell shit, that wall of text only show how much of a retard you are
>FWMCs fans have a troubled reputation for being overly parasocial and most companies don't want to create an association with such a crowd
roru
rumao

>>84913215
40+Celsius plus houses down under being built like dogshit

>>84913349
you don't even have enough understanding of what she feels regret over and still try to ascribe the retarded "ruined Hololive" shit to it all, which is why you're hardly even a partner for conversation here
no, despite what you read of the catalog she doesn't regret going on TT or supporting Tempus, she has actual personal regrets of how she handled communication or overreacted to criticism, taking too much work onto herself, not doing enough stream preparation
almost none of that is really relevant for drama and culture war rotted brains though

>>84913465
>So popular people watch her when she isn't even doing anything
>I think this is bad somehow?!
I'm not sure that argument is what you think it is anon.

Kiara is still popular compared to the washed up Mori

>>84913481
t. Euro

>>84913401
>sub 6k ccv two months in a row kek

>>84913326
Weird. BA has so many different types of girls, figured you'd at least like one.

CC ASMR is so fucking good..

Reminder:
"King" lost to Pero the fat fuck

>>84913480
Ruffian. Read properly and don't just bring your retarded white-knighting dribble the moment you hear something possibly negative about your object of obsession.
>Advertisers only care if you have the power to sell shit
Yea, low tier poor paying advertisers. I'm sure RAID would love to throw them (or anyone else for that matter) a sponsorship. Bigger companies are already weary of a niche industry like vtubers, there is a reason why Subaru has been way more popular for sponsors than other chubas and that's not because they just pick people randomly out of a hat or don't care about who they sponsor you dumb fuck.

Kek hologirls are cute, talented and entertaining. Take that away from them and what are they?
Ironmouse.

>>84913523
>she doesn't regret going on TT or supporting Tempus
Good, both of those things were based. Let the egirls rot and wither away in their walled garden while actually talented stars like Mori and Liz do what they want.

>>84913256
>If it was just that why would they not let them stream or post on their accounts anymore then?
If you assume it was a contract dispute, the answer to that is obvious
>it's because their initial contract ran out and they wouldn't be allowed to work without a renewed one

erroi

How the fuck is she still in summer after seven hours

>>84913594
lmao dont be like that kek

>>84913523
>she doesn't regret going on TT or supporting Tempus
NTA but yeah that’s why I don’t believe that she’s “changed” or “reformed”. If she got a chance she’d do it all again.

>>84912587
NTA anon but c'mon, Mori is ok now but you can't just whitewash all the bullshit she was doing during her grifter days. She even accepts that she thought she wouldn't stay in Holo for long during that time, which is why her roommate was so active and she was trying every funneling strategy she could think of, up to and including referencing her holo job on her roommate, visiting the same con as both Mori as well as her roommate, AND doing a Trash Taste AFTER DARK episode of TTRPG (>>84911660 making it THREE you fucking retard) right at the time when Mythbreakers was popping off.

There was also shit like "uhhh Connor actually apologized to everyone behind the scenes" only to get contradicted by Kiara, who later revealed that Mori has overslept many times and caused a bunch of EN collabs to be late because of it (https://youtu.be/1LcCMBrCC2Y?t=2432).).
And of course -
1. That one "fighting game" stream with Ina where Ina was just forced to watch her play the game.
2. The Gura collab (https://youtu.be/sbo8zS8otzQ)) full of fuckups meanwhile the Shadowverse collab with Grant a mere 2 days later (https://youtu.be/5Bvyh1viEIU >>84911660 FOUR, fucker) was as smooth as a baby's bottom, so much so that it was even noticeable under her own STREAM COMMENTS (which she had to lock).
3. Oh and speaking of Shadowverse, here's her collab with Kiara for that tournament (https://youtu.be/D9TfqrnrT7c).). The difference is so stark that again, comments are comforting her for her retardation.

There's a reason she has a whole-ass copypasta about all the fuckups in her career.
People don't post it anymore because they like how she's improving (even if it's for her numbers' sake), but don't for a moment think that they have forgotten what she was like before.

>>84913595
Mori should consider making the move over to vshojo in the near future. She'd have more opportunities there and she wouldn't be shackled to an "idol company".

What happened to mousekeks again?

>>84913586
>there is a reason why Subaru has been way more popular for sponsors than other chubas
Nothing you wrote make sense if you understand Marine is one of the strongest Holo with regards to advertisement. Think about it (from >>84912634)

>have a troubled reputation for being overly parasocial and most companies don't want to create an association with such a crowd, as that can be risky and backfire
>Has some possibly risky habits like talking about eroge, something most normie advertisers wouldn't want to be associated with
Could be talking about Marine here, easily
Then, this pearl
>Twin theme is great for streaming and performances, but has no real reach in terms of plain marketing
That's one of the most retarded things written in this thread, and this is the thread famous for "if you sell out a concert you take a loss".
For the record I just parachuted in this conversation, your retardation had me answer something that I can only assume to be a very elaborate shitpost