/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

How do I live?
How do I dream?
Sometimes wanna sing the blues
Must tighten my reins, but hard to obey
You know, I'm not perfect enough

>>84869847
BAU BAU!

>>84870204
Just another chuuba...

I love FUWAMOCOO

August: FWMC-71 hours Mori-74 hours Kiara-43 hours Bae-30 hours
July: FWMC-69 hours Mori-122 hours Kiara-50 hours Bae-73 hours
June: FWMC-59 hours Mori-76 hours Kiara-82 hours Bae-38 hours
May: FWMC-56 hours Mori-20 hours Kiara-100 hours Bae-97 hours
April: FWMC-50 hours Mori-123 hours Kiara-81 hours Bae-74 hours
March: FWMC-16 hours Mori-87 hours Kiara-36 hours Bae-16 hours
Febuary: FWMC-71 hours Mori-121 hours Kiara-73 hours Bae-93 hours
January: FWMC-110 hours Mori-111 hours Kiara-29 hours Bae-60 hours
FWMC = 502 hours
Mori = 634 hours
Kiara = 494 hours
Bae = 481 hours
Just for that one fag last thread who wanted to insinuate that they have way more streamed hours than the 3 other in the branch that are very hard in on the same stuff they are.
There's a little extra for all of them for members and collabs on other channels, but the only one with a major timesink in their members is Kiara with the entire Monogatari watchalong.
Don't talk to me about their move from the NWP, as both Bae and Kiara also moved during this time and Mori had her surgery. Kiara's was because of a stalker which lead to her not being able to stream during the move without arousing suspicion from the person and Bae's was also intercontinental.

don't like raora...

When are we going to see what all of the money is going to? Did they really blow it all on the move?

>>84870638
Irrefutable

didn't ask
didn't read
gonna take a nap

>>84870638
>Bae was incontinent
Damn that's rough

>>84870638
How many of those hours were super chat readings?

>>84870792
that's a sexy ass fuwawa

>>84870792
Built for messy, sweaty paizuri

>>84870794
A pretty decent chunk, but I'm not going to split hairs like that, because I do enjoy time they spend with us. I just think it's funny to assume that all their time is going to songs and events when they clearly aren't.

>>84870638
phenomenally baused

>>84870715
actually this post is more baused, good night

Did you guys order the ruffian keychain?

>>84871111
Yeah fucking right.

>>84871111
not until there's something more to order. I'm not paying 3x the cost for a fucking key chain in shipping sorry puppies

>>84871111
Fuck no, if it's not related to something they specifically did or are involved in like their birthday, anniversary, Breaking Dimensions, I ain't buying

>>84871111
nope, I'm broke

>>84871258
>>84871322
Yeah the shipping is kind of egregious. Shame because it looks really nice

>>84871111
I'm going to buy these instead
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1774064117/fuwamoco-keychain-hololive-en-charm-25?variation0=4678915955

>>84870638
I want to see all these dorks as a unit so bad

>>84871111
I was but then I saw a figure that I want way more

>>84870638
Didn't you say they streamed more than they did? Why would you post a self-own like this.

i want to tear apart her shimashima shorts and fuck her all night long

So I went and tallied every single piece of merch with Fuwawa and Moco-chan on it in the Hololive shop and got a total cost to get 1 of everything with them on it. I included a signboard for each but only the text version for both, but excluded stuff like the jigsaw puzzle they are on with a bunch of other members from FES. Remember that this also doesn't include any side merch or collab stuff like the skateboards and clothing from Omocat.
Grand total without shipping is $803.61. Now factor in another 250-300 for all the other collab stuff that's not on the Hololive shop and you're looking at spending a little over a grand on everything FWMC related in the last SIX MONTHS.

>>84871111
The shipping cost more than the keyring

>>84871111
it's permanently available so I will bundle it with my JP oshi's birthday who is coming up

>>84871933
Sheesh

>>84871963
If it's permanent, then why is Mumei's sold out

>>84871933
lmao fuck that

>>84871933
that's not too bad. i spent like $2k to attend breaking dimensions.

>>84872023
Don't forget that even if you went ahead and did shipping the most optimal way possible, you're still looking at 6-8 shipments because of time limited stuff.
>>84872049
They somehow fucked it up real bad and made her tag say "Moomen" instead of "Hoomen"

>>84871658
These are so cute!

>>84872105
yeah but you're clearly retarded

>>84872049
because they put mooman instead of hooman on the keychain

>>84872105
Was it worth it?

>>84872128
Yeah, it's sad that there are a bunch of things like this that are way cuter than the official version. I bought PLASTIC when I was at a con a while ago because the artist made a cute set of EN in swimsuits and holding floaties. It's way cuter and nicer to display than the generic pose standees we get.

Bae and Mococo should have sex on stream

>>84872146
the flight and hotel was like 75% of that. what am i supposed to do? i got the the tickets on the first sale.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/122298055
cool idea to not have one on either side but also not need two different pillows, be it for not wanting more than one or just saving money

I've had a hard time thinking of what I should say, I wasn't there in person, I know you couldn't hear my voice or see the words I had for you, but I'm so happy for you both, that you could be on that stage and achieve that dream of yours. I really am glad you came this far, you two

>>84872170
The trip is worth it because it's an experience that takes up around a whole week, you meet a bunch of new people if you can be talkative, and see a bunch of cool stuff.
The merch on the other had, for the most part is some generic trash. There's the occasional good merch that has some unique touches, but for the most part it's just too copy + paste to be worth it.

Now that they've bonded more with their Holo EN mates, I'd like to see more collabs we would never have expected in the past. Ame collabs, Gura, Kiara, Fauna, Bae etc.

>>84872291
>you two
This is the doomer isn’t it

>>84872301
I can only hope, but if people don't reach out to them, then it isn't gonna happen. Add in that they always seem to be doing something and trying to schedule stuff with them seems like a nightmare because all of those talents likely have some of their own things going on.

>>84871658
aAAAA MOGOTYAN

>>84871933
but what is that money going towards

>>84872296
I hope they announce the next EN concert (ENCORE) ahead of time so I can plan but I know it's going to be a crapshoot. Probably not until all this EN RECO stuff ends next summer.

https://x.com/promlnences/status/1832643442792337739
this made me sad :(

I was watching GG to catch up before she does her recap, and I'm at the point where Fuwawa is asking for her help on the last day, and it's killing me hearing Moco-chan yelling "WHAET!?! CORRUPTION?!?! HAEH?!?!" in the background.

>>84872394
Your guess is as good as mine. Unlike most other members of EN, they don't like talking about what they're working on at all beyond going 'that and this and that' to each other, so who knows what that is. It could be wrestling training, it could be the 50th voicepack, it could be some orisongs they're putting together for and EP. We will never have any idea if something is coming until it drops.

>>84872239

>>84872239
I like my Moco-chan disease free thank you

>>84872526
fine I'll do it

>>84872435
Even Fuwawa was getting annoyed at times
>Mococo is noisy, huh…?
I saw some in chat complaining a bit too

>>84872213
Really real. These days I like to hit cons mostly to see whatever cool stuff I can manage to get on the artist's alley.

>>84872290
if mococo's eyes weren't a foot apart I'd consider buying it

>>84872588
not the biggest fan of the art either, but it's a better idea than one on each side for fan dakis. they'll probably have individual ones for their birthdays I'm guessing, but I don't think I even have space for two of these on my bed.

Moco-chan makes me feel so good oh my gosh

>>84872291
>I don't know what to say but I NEED to send an SC! also here's a jab at you for absolutely no reason
brain damage

>>84872587
I also usually have an easier time throwing money at something while I'm on 'vacation'. Staring at a cute FWMC plush that's $40 is a lot easier to swallow when I'm in a spending mood than when I'm sitting at my house watching streams or playing games or whatever.

>>84872394
I don’t wanna be that guy, but I will be that guy. There’s also the $10 they have been receiving monthly from all their patrons in that other place. They said that money helps them fund for that project despite having nothing to show for it AND despite all of the money they get from Cover. Nothing to show for it on the FWMC side of things either. All of this, and for the most part, at least going off of what they tell us, they supposedly live like they’re still poorfags
All of this homework they’re taking on themselves, all these opportunities - what is it literally for

>>84872657
Fuwawa...

>>84872664
It would be one thing if it were the first and only time. Still retarded but whatever people have moments of weirdness. But ritual SCs every week for $200 just to traumadump is something I can't begin to get

>>84872810
>what is it literally for
Pain and suffering

>>84872810
>I don't want to be a faggot but
>*starts sucking every cock in sight*
shut up monkey

>>84872810
How much of your salary do you invest on your boss' company? Don't tell me you pocket all of it, that would be disgusting, what is it literally for?

>>84872810
if they save up for another two years or so they will be able to retire

>>84872113
>>84872152
Wow how did they fuck up that bad

>>84872810
I trust in them and want to believe it's just being overwhelmed but it really is getting to the point I'm going to start cutting back until they start showing that the money is going to something. If they are just saving for retirement fine but stuff like T5 which has taken in ten thousand+, membership which is probably the same or more, even SCs and they haven't done much more than any other holo member in this time in terms of things they pay for. All they do is paid collabs and attending events which they are paid for. When are they ever investing that money back into something Ruffians get to experience?

>>84872810
It’s for nothing. That’s why I have a zero ounce of sympathy for them and roll my eyes whenever they bring up their shit sleeping schedules. They do it to themselves.

>>84872943
Watch streams to improve your larp, tranny. You're not fooling anyone who ever watched them.

You thought Mococo's gambling problem was a bit for the RP, it wasn't. Remember how she was in the holo cure gacha. Mococo has a gambling problem.

>>84872939
cut them some slack. they have like a hundred talents how can you expect them to keep track of everyo-
>https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/talents/nanashi-mumei/
>Fan Name Hoomans
o-oh...

>>84873020
So what have they been spending all of the money on since debut? They eclipsed almost every streamer in that time yet have the same debut background and next to no covers this year besides a paid collab one that was funded by the anime company

>>84873111
Watch streams

Way to be over the top, fags. We're waiting for something, it just kinda sucks that they're so against saying ANYTHING about their projects as they work on them. There's nothing to look forward to because we have no idea what is in the works, when to kinda think it might show up, what it'll be about, anything. In a month or two they'll post a schedule and it'll randomly have an orisong on it. There'll be no hype, no buildup for the weeks prior to the announcement, it'll just be there.
The problem is, we just have to assume that this is how it will go and that it'll come soon(TM).

>>84872810
funny you should mention it because I was just thinking about that project
I guess they'll have to release some sort of update or some confirmation it's been scrapped by the end of the year

>>84872943
>If they are just saving for retirement fine but stuff like T5 which has taken in ten thousand+
Not to mention THEY DON’T EVEN DELIVER LIKE THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO and don’t put out the ONE THING they promise their supporters monthly. I mean shit, as barren as the content we get from them as the doggy pack is, we at least get SOMETHING from them. I mean we’re lucky to get those monthly streams (when we do), but even then they don’t make any blog posts, they don’t upload any pictures like they said they would, it’s just
>Oh hey we’re doing this stream
>here’s the link
>2 or (maybe) 4 hour stream of pngs playing a game
>okay see you guys next month, maybe
>no updates, just once in a blue moon public tweets they make that they don’t wanna post on their fuwamoco page
Actual scummy behavior

>>84873161
I have. Their content has been unchanged. Care to give one example? They have the same background for everything. THe RnR parties have mildly different assets along with watchalongs.They don't even have bowls and we're past half a year since the move. Meanwhile Shiori has hundreds of shorts, pays for a members comic monthly, is constantly upgrading her setup and experimenting with new assets she commissions

>>84872823
Too bad, I counter it.

>>84873243
you're going to have a miserable life if you're always concerned about how others spend their money

>>84872810
I think we can consider that project of theirs soft dropped.

>>84873165
>they'll have to release some sort of update or some confirmation it's been scrapped by the end of the year
Why do they have to? The people subscribed to it will happily give them money with nothing in return as they've shown for the past year. They already soft cancelled it thankfully but if they're able to get free income for doing nothing why wouldn't you want them to if you're a fan?

>>84873298
I don't care how they spend most of their money. When they tell us they want us to be excited but never give us anything to be excited about while begging for support is when it becomes an issue.

>>84873354
Irrefutable

They should hire a girlfriend to live with them and tend to their needs like Marine and Laplus does

>>84872823
Imagine playing commander with a FWMC deck

>>84873372
So you honestly have not one example at all of how they've spent money and it's been over a year. I don't know how you can't see how bad that looks for them

>>84873163
They're more receptive to people asking than a lot of people seem to assume. I still remember a superchat straight up asking them "how do you spend your time when you say you're on a homework day?" and they answered no problem. People should try asking them the things they want to know instead of just complaining on 4chan that they don't say it.
Try something like "I know a lot of things are under NDA and you can't discuss them openly, but I've always been curious about the time frame of recordings and the homework you do. When you say you're recording something, how long do we usually wait from then to announcement?" if that's what you want to know.
Not saying they'll definitely answer it, but they won't hate you if they don't want to or can't answer either, they don't mind you asking.

>>84873308
fair enough I guess I treat deadlines as more important than other people do

>>84873382
Streamer caretaker would be a hecking entry to any resume

>>84872170
It was unironically very fun and worth it for me
But I value time and fulfilling experiences more than money, and I know not everyone is in the same situation

>>84873354
That's kinda bullshit. We have had 3d and BD to look forward to. We also got Baudol but no one had any idea it was coming and they just dropped it with their anni. It makes sense to put it there, it's just that without knowing that they're working on a new orisong, there's nothing to get hyped about. I believe they are working on stuff like covers and orisongs, but waiting until the week before you're going to release it to even talk about it in any capacity really is bad marketing and hyping.
>>84873444
I don't want to have to pay 50 dollars to ask them. And if it was a question of the day, I feel like I've seen people ask similar things and we've never gotten anything.

>>84873406
Are you replying to the right anon? That guy seems to be agreeing with you or the original poster he's replying to.

>>84873406
Maybe they’re saving it all

>>84873243
Since you brought up RnR Parties, there's your one example. The songs they sing that no one else has, the reason isn't just because they're so obscure that no one else knows, it's because neither Cover's app nor the approved youtube channels they use for karaoke tracks have the instrumentals for these songs, despite them being allowed to sing them. FUWAMOCO doesn't leave it at that, they pay people to make the tracks for them, even for songs they only ever sang once.
Only other talent I know that does this is Polka, and she explicitly said it's so that it can increase the available repertoire for holo members.

>>84873459
Even better since you're taking care of two streamers

>>84873597
Truly a job of the future

>>84873506
Fair about the superchat, but why not try the question of the day? If more people ask the same thing it increases the chances of them feeling like it's something worth answering, maybe.
It's a single tweet you can write in seconds, why not try instead of complaining first? I get not wanting to do it now because you won't want the retarded men obsessed schizos to start looping about you, so I don't blame you, but you should have tried before.

>>84873243
uh, kinda baused Shiori
Though I'd expect Shiori would be more experience with that sorta thing and it'd be easier for her to do.

I can't even cum to them anymore I'm so disappointed. I want to feel good again

>>84873240
maybe, just maybe we'll get another FWMC VN stream soon but like that's be public first and then bonus member later.

>>84873702
They haven't started yet and I made 2 different posts that I talked about here in the past. It's not a big issue, but I really dislike posting the same thing over and over. I'll give it a shot in the near future, something similar to "Is there any chance you'd be willing to share a little more when you're working on a singing project? I've always seen it with other members and it really helps build up excitement for what's coming!". Is that too harsh?

>>84873506
>no one had any idea it was coming
I feel like everyone and their mothers expected an original song for either anniversary or 3D debut, or Breaking Dimensions at the latest. Are they your first vtubers? No problem if they are, someone has to be your first, but a lot of things you seem puzzled by are standard holo stuff everyone else just assumes.

>>84873306
Dammit I wanted to see lack of sleep affected their looks

>>84873569
perhaps one day we will get MJ...

>>84873892
post on their patreon they will read the comments and edit another menhera post response to it because they'll feel bad. they did promise us a picture 4 months ago and have yet to post it despite making excuses every stream

>>84873702
Alright I'll give it a try since you're saying it so politely.

Darth Vader died….

>>84873845
Not too harsh for a superchat, but they won't pick something worded like this for question of the day, I feel like, it reads too much like a "one on one question" instead of a fan letter, which is the usual format they pick the most for questions of the day. I'd go with the more general "how long from recording to announcement" question instead, since they're always open about when they're doing recordings.

>>84873857
There were assumptions that it was coming, but they never hinted at anything at all. The reason I was sure it was is because they hadn't released a single orisong and said that they wanted it to be a big focus. I would have been really disappointed had they not released anything then because I internally hoped they'd do it.
I watched Kiara for many years, hearing her talk about going to record for 'something' a month or two before the release, and getting little bits here and there is exciting because it builds you up to be ready for the drop. We all sat here for a week before their anni talking about how we thought it HAD TO be coming.

>>84873801
https://files.catbox.moe/fabyp2.png

>>84874037
Mio-mama...

>>84873918
I want to watch MJ again

>>84873918
The instrumental track is actually the main problem with archiving western songs most of the time, even ones they're allowed to play on stream are set to auto strike the VOD, so they need to kill it to not have to deal with legal issues all the time. If they liked western music more this would be a real possibility, kek.

>>84873996
But that's the thing, it's always 'We're recording for this and that and that and this' and that could mean something as simple and, well I don't want to say worthless, but worthless as a VP which are a dime a dozen, or as high up and exciting as an orisong.

>>84873951
If it makes you feel better ruffian, here's Biboo's New Grindstone one https://litter.catbox.moe/26uy2b.png

Fatwawa

>>84873984
Dark egg

>buy fan merch
>$5 for shipping
>arrives within a week
>buy official merch
>$20 for shipping
>arrives within 6 months

>>84874187
The amount of makeup or photoshop plus the colored lenses scares me.

>>84874187
Honestly kind of cute
She has a nice smile

>>84874217
That'll be $1150 dollars please! Hope you like 15 keychains and 10 standees!

>>84874128
But that would be part of the answer, no? Assuming they pick it.
>well, it depends on the content, if it's a voice pack, (...), if it's a cover song, (...)
And so on. It won't be a definitive answer, but they'll at least give more insight into it. I remember them tweeting about the last minute french con appearance THE SECOND they were allowed to. They want to let us know as soon as they can, but they often can't. The talents that hint more at things are just being sneaky, rather than following the program, probably. Much like how they hinted at the full version LTST before.

inb4 koahri tweet gets posted btw it's not FUWAMOCO

>>84874144
I want that stone to grind on me until I explode

https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1833249020816580627
what the fuck, how did I miss this
i hate self replies

>>84874300
I guess I just don't see them ever doing it, it being *wink wink*ing about an upcoming orisong or cover that's coming through in the next month or so.

>>84874003
>Kiara
That seems to be your problem, you're used to someone who says a lot more than most. I'm used to either a tweet or a community post saying "no stream today because I'll be recording all day" and not a single followup on that ever again.

>>84874411
holy floofies

>>84874411
wow who would have guessed!!!!! >>84874303

>>84874411
Ah fuck you nigger

>>84874127
judging by how Biboo and Gigi's FNV streams got unceremoniously wiped, it does sound like a pain in the ass

>>84874217
>buy birthday merch
>$270 import fee
you have it easy

>>84874513
How? Didn't kiara and ame both play with the music on and it's still up?

>>84874187
Fuwa elephant...

>>84874589
Nah Kiara turns hers off. I have no idea with Ame.

>>84874217
The Middle-men gotta be worked in somehow

>>84874544
We can't all be born white, sorry.

>>84874544
That's completely retarded

>>84874513
People always talk about japanese game companies being ridiculous for perms, and they are, but western music companies are the real devil. Movies too, we can't do a watchalong for Ghibli movies because Disney has the publishing rights and they forbid you from streaming a fucking timer saying where you are in the movie so people can sync.
It's the western gaming industry specifically that's the positive exception for permissions, everything else is trash.

>>84874411
I've never made a Mori folder. Should I start now?

>>84874693
The guy is probably from the EU lol
Just imagine paying that much for your merch.

>>84874589
I don't know. I didn't really get it since it was mostly rrats and not many people had the vod saved but apparently the radio was on.

>>84874597
Don't you start Wuffian

>>84874770
It's the huge asterisk in "buy merch instead, it supports them more than supperchat"
only true if you live in a real country, everywhere else you're supporting your government

ENReco Chapter 2 isn't until November

>i wanna crowd suuuuurff
>would you catch meeee?
>ehehehehe

>>84875010
Good break, hoping for two weeks this time instead of the bum rush of a single week.
Also hopefully not Minecraft, but not because I dislike it, I just think it would be more fun with them switching it up every chapter.

>>84874735
What a fucking shit show. Glad they're getting what they deserve then.

Think the western gaming industry is more positive on this sort of thing since streaming and sponsorships is a major thing in a lot of games. Rather than protecting their IP by any means, they see as a way to get more attention and more sales.

>>84874755
you should have a folder for every holo member on the sex approved list

>>84875236
Can I see this list?

>>84875236
Isn't that every Holo?

>>84874957
you need to pay import tax in burgerland too if the shipment is valued at over $800

>>84872810
>>84872943
>>84873240
>>84873165
>>84873306
T5 was insane considering their schedules are already awful in terms of sleep and content. Better they commit and go all in on Hololive. Either you want to give them money for nothing, which is fine, then do so, or you don't. Or you're just bringing this up because you're a seething sister, or atm.

>>84874943
>>84875034
fuuwwaaawwaaaaa daaaaaisssssuuuukkiiiiii

>>84875142
Yeah, but frankly it's because they never had a chance. Back in the early days of justin.tv and the start of twitch, a lot of western publishers tried to shut that shit down, or try to get a cut from their donations and stuff like that. It was only when they started actually running the numbers and seeing that their sales were increasing that they started to change their stance. But the streaming never stopped even while they were trying to put a stop to it. They just never got enough power to do it before changing their mind, otherwise it would be the same.

>>84875236
Well I'm glad I have a place to put all these deadbeat picrels then. For HoloMems not on the sex approved lists, I usually just put their lewds in a folder with another HoloMem who is on the sex approved list.

>>84875362
It's probably atm since he prefers them over there than he does when they're FWMC

>>84875571
he was just active on twitter a minute ago too

>>84875010
who spilled it this time

>>84875752
me to Mococo

are they going to have new merch for chapter 2?

>>84875010
So stupid, at that rate they could have spaced out Chapter 1 and had everyone clear 1 dungeon a week. 2 streams of ENReco a week and then more if you wanted to do more. Would have given storylines more time to breathe, clippers more time to make multi POV compilations, and the girls wouldn't forget everything in a long gap.

>>84875752

>>84875880
of course but it's very likely to be extremely mediocre

>>84875010
That would make sense considering it's supposed to run for a whole year, and gives them time to adjust or react to the weird shit the girls have all been doing so far. I doubt anybody working on this had "Tam Gandr", the gnome hat shadow money cabal, and whatever the fuck else happened in those streams in their wildest imagination.

>>84875933
Man, her consideration for others while doing all the RP stuff was great. Even got Fuwawa a little involved.

>>84875919
1-2 weeks is definitely better for events. There's a reason we don't have ARK month any more.

>>84875919
I definitely agree with "one dungeon a week, as many streams between them as each talents feels like doing" as a baseline, but I thought no one else would agree, kek.

>>84875442
In a way I'm happy it turned out this way then. Even if western streaming itself has had its up and downs, it has been a part in Hololive choosing youtube as a platform and youtube even offering youtube live in the first place.

>>84876156
It just makes more sense. There's a reason all talents usually space things out instead of grind to complete a game in one shot, unless it's endurance. Now of course FUWAMOCO are on the opposite end of the problem where it's been a year and they haven't completed a ton of stuff but generally speaking, viewers like variety, which is why they won't stream the same thing more than once a week usually.

>>84876222
I never go on twitch nowadays, but I do have really fond memories of justin.tv and some from twitch too back when SF4 was bringing new life to fighting games after I thought they were done for. Good times.

>>84869847
BAU BAU

>>84876290
>stream the same thing more than once a month usually
Fixed it for ya!

>>84872810
They've probably spent about 100k on songs and assets for special streams. I don't understand. Songs ARE what Holos reinvest into and FWMC have like 6 of them

>sleep with window closed: can't sleep from being too hot
>sleep with window open: wake up with runny nose and a cold

one more chat read and I will hit 20 since debut

>>84874735
where did you get the info from the timer thing? I know Disney are terrible but I didn't know that specifically

>>84875010
Good we need a break from that and the map guy needs time to make his maps.

>>84876553
breathe through your nose

Cute that FWMC joined in on the pow-wow chat about what the talents wanted out of the tail end of the ENReco chapter one. It's probably why we saw them get so injected into the plot line on the final day.

>>84876575
I've only been read maybe 5 times

>>84876575
I haven't been chatting as much lately

>>84875933
She'd be great if she wasn't a fujo dyke

>>84876667
I'm at about 3

>>84876379
kek but also not kek...

>>84876585
I don't mean that they oppose to the timer specifically, just that it's all there is on stream, no footage is shown, no audio is leaked, it's only a timer, and they say no. And they WILL take down your stream and strike your channel while you're live if you dare to disobey.

>>84876575
How do you remember this shit? Why do you remember this shit? I could tell you what I said the last time they read me back during the Citron post release stream and what Moco-chan said to me on her birthday, but beyond that I don't remember shit about the random words of mine they read in the chat.

>>84876822
More than a few people have accidentally shown that they have folders of screenshots or timestamps of when they were read. I even saw a spreadsheet

>>84876553
What I do is that I take off my clothes and stuff them under my blanket. So if I ever get cold in the middle of the night, I just wrap myself in clothes subconsciously

>>84876575
How do you keep count? Do you timestamp it or just keep a notepad file with a number of times?

>>84876794
That's some terrible luck

>>84876804
ah yeah I hate Disney. could have watched wall e already

>>84876575
Only 20 since debut? Do you just not chat much or something?

>>84876933
Hotkey that takes a screenshot with a timestamp and saves into a folder. Occasionally I clean it up and organize with a spreadsheet with the stream timestamp link and what I said plus a rating of how good the interaction was

>>84876794
Same, and they were all kinda shameful truth be told...

>>84877032
I don't type for the sake of typing, I type because there's actually something I REALLY want to say. I do meme in the chat and occasionally spam emotes, but it's more of a passive thing for me.

>>84876553
>sleep with clothes on
>feel too hot
>sleep with clothes off
>entire body soaked in sweat

>>84877069
KEK that's way too much work, but godspeed.

>>84877069
Does it timestamp the stream or your local time?

>>84876882
kek ok that is a little schizo

>>84877032
That's an above average amount to be read by a hololive member with as many viewers as they have. Most people have never been read or treasure the one time it happens forever.

>>84875571
i dont, and nobody was happier than i was when they got into holo

Reading all the negativity I feel like I'll have a mental breakdown, it's not even like I agree with it but it's like I can't refute it or remove it from my brain

>>84877069
I just need to know, why? Is it that important and momentous that they read your text in the chat?

>>84877157
have you tried getting a ceiling fan?

>>84877244
I really wish the likeschizos and readschizos knew just how much of a tiny tiny tiny percentage of holo listeners they already belong to with the amount of attention they got. None of them have any right to complain about not enough attention.

>>84877244
Yeah but FWMC read chat like A LOT and chat is considerably slower during the many superchat readings they have

Being with FWMC since debut and chatting and only getting around 20 reads seems considerably low unless you simply don't chat as much as others do. Hell FWMC will read comments a lot of time that just repeat what they already said

>>84877069
I hope your hard drive fails

>>84877299
Then this place is not for you. There are people shitposting, people posting actual feelings, and jealous turd worlders amplifying everything. Unless you can filter properly, you shouldn't be here.

>>84877226
stream, I based it off the script the prominent timestampers use to make their immediate post stream comments

>>84877331
this scares the korean

>>84877331
I have a small industrial fan on at all times

>>84877299
>I'll have a mental breakdown
It ain't ever that deep

>>84876667
Try to say things they can easily bounce off or more personal stuff than "u cute". You'll get read constantly.
I'm not a paypig or a twitterlike schizo (got my account killed and never went back) and I even got read three times by Mococo in a single FWMC Morning and she made me extra special ruffian out of nowhere too. They do pay attention to your chats, and not only what you're saying, but also who is saying it if you're a regular.

>>84877268
that's why you publicly berated them for not acknowledging your shitty VN to the point you publicly and dramatically oshihenned then deleted the post to keep your innocence, right

>>84877299
Here's an off topic peko. If you're feeling that way, write a rrat to let it out and then vacate the thread

>>84877268
Larp

>>84877451
what script is it?

>>84877509
The surefire way to get read is to just repeat what they said so they say it again slightly and go 'yeah... yeah...' and then you have a read. It's the easiest way but is pretty shallow.

>>84877324
Because I want to remember this forever. In a few years or decades if all the VODs i will at least have these memories of the times I interacted with them directly. better to do it now and never need it than regret it when my memory is failing and it's impossible to access archives. it's little to no extra work doing it live and makes me happy if I'm feeling down

weading all the negativity I feel like I'll have a mental bweak down!!! it's not even like I agwee wiff it but it's like I can't wefute it or wemove it fwom my bwain!!

>>84877467
They do shake pretty badly if you put it at the highest speed. That's why I've always been pretty unsure of tying a rope up there incase it brings the whole thing down.

>>84877612
Yup
>F: Yeah... yeah... RIGHT? *reads comment just echoing their own words*
>M: YAAAAA *does the same thing* YAAAAA un un un un

>>84877509
It's fine I gave up on organic interactions.

>>84877451
That seems useful. How would I set this up?
>>84877324
NTA but sometimes I want to remember a happy moment when I feel down. I don't go as far as recording every read but if I make them laugh or if they praised me or something, I'll clip it for my own personal use and write down the timestamp in a notepad.
>>84877394
I think for the most part, people on /vt/ who are good faith posters are more likely to be active watchers and chatters so I do think it's less rarefied company than comparing it to the overall fanbase. And so you're likely to brush up against people who get read a LOT and thus feel inferior.

>>84877429
I have an off site backup at work and a cloud backup. I rotate it too as I do all of my important files. There's no risk.

>>84877779
Based good IT practices anon.

>>84877509
I only get read when I say the dumbest things at the right time.

I would rather have shitposting than a genuine conversation about comment reads god you fags are pathetic

A cloud backup is just another offsite backup and I will never back down from this. The cloud. Your offsite backup should also be accessible remotely too anyways. It's like calling chai, chai tea.

>>84877678
>>84877744
I guess I'll just never get it. I like it in the moment and it's fun, but I guess I'd rather not place my happiness on two streamers talking to me for a second.

>>84877936
OK sister

>>84875236
Fuck off faggot

>>84877722
But if thay makes you feel good is it really so bad?

>>84878006
you're just as brown as any sister that comes in here

>>84877988
That's fine, but there are people like that.

>>84878032
Just depends on how needy you are for validation or positivity.

Don't stick your dick in crazy

I would rather kill you fags in halo or TF2 than talk about comment reads

>>84877974
I agree with you but it's what people say so I just say it too even if it's redundant

>>84877680
bauwused

>>84877744
>And so you're likely to brush up against people who get read a LOT and thus feel inferior.
Right, I get that, but it's nuts, they need to realize how many people wish they had their interactions, instead of feeling inferior to those who had more. Like, what is the acceptable amount of reactions to no longer compare yourself and want more? Doesn't it already sound ridiculous when I even put it like that?
You have them as a regular part of your life and you regularly interact with them. The average tiny twitter account casual who gets an egosa like from them and is over the moon couldn't even imagine having the kind of relationship the people who complain about not enough attention do.
Do you think these people could even dream that Fuwawa remembers their favorite food, for example? That's wild. Some people just refuse to be happy.

>>84877535
i did not "publicly berate" them. i gave them $100 to ask if them liking it meant they had played it
i dont remember what i wrote in the twitter post but im pretty sure i didnt talk about them at all
i dont know what this has to do with them being in holo

>>84878234
Why not?

>>84878318
I don't get how any Ruffian complains about attention but I guess it's not logical. It's mental illness they can't help which is unfortunate

>>84878283
Wednesday?

>>84877733
Don't give up and it will happen sooner or later. If you're just in chat typing stuff in hope of getting read, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Sometimes your message gets buried in emote spam, that's just how life is. Managinh to make them laugh out of nowhere will always feel more rewarding than spending 200 bucks to call them your "kamioshi".

>>84878199
kek
>>84878234
it's my duty to

>>84878234
instructions unclear

>>84878408
The people who act like that don't have much going on in life. The little bit of happiness and attention they get from those small interactions with FWMC make their day, sometimes their week. I couldn't imagine living that life.

I don't like their new trend of stealing fan content without credit. People will stop making it

>>84878490
It's really funny how their eyes seem to lock in on the most retarded throwaway shit you could possibly write that you regret sending the moment you hit enter. Especially Mococo. I only ever get read by her with the dumbest shit I write.

>>84878678
i hope they don't read names or remember because the chat delay has made me say wrong things that they read out of context

We were talking about fanmerch that's better than the official. I got these a while back and the cutesy-ness of them is just too good.

>>84878972
This looks really cute. Kind of want to focus on stuff like this next comiket and skip Icomochi's next set, if there's enough variety to make it a comparable purcahse.

>>84878820
>give gameplay tips as it happens
>they read it later
>it helps in the current situation

>>84878820
I don't think they care that much if you say "the wrong thing". They've got to deal with sexual harassers, legit antis, and complete schizos already.
They're 100% happy when they get to interact with normal people.

>>84879112
I just like overly cute shit. It's way more appealing to my little autistic brain and it's why I like nendoroids so much. Fuck Funkopops though, way too soulless looking.

>>84879215
I'm REALLY looking forward to the nendos, yeah. Can't afford to buy a whole army, but if they stay on sale for a little while, I may get a second set later. I never even thought about mixing parts from different nendos before they brought it up, already have some ideas, it'll be fun.

>>84878318
>The average tiny twitter account casual who gets an egosa like from them and is over the moon couldn't even imagine having the kind of relationship the people who complain about not enough attention do.
Yeah that average casual doesn't care as much about it as the average /vt/ user does. They are not dreaming about Fuwawa remembering their favorite food. For the most part, people here are heavily deep into the parasocial gachikoi end of things. It does sound ridiculous but keep in mind even the biggest paypigs are insecure. The guy who gets a lot of twitter likes is jealous of the guy who gets read a lot and vice versa. The guy who gets a lot of both is jealous of the guy who gets more than him. If you zoom out, this is not a unique thing to vtubers though, human beings are like this. The grass always looks greener on the other side. Someone with a lot of money envies someone with a lot of friends. Someone with both envies someone who has more.
>>84878408
Once you get a hit of it, you need more. It's like a drug and there are a lot of lonely men in this hobby. We're substituting having a real live in girlfriend or wife for the most part.
>>84878490
Yeah that's why I try not just to repeat what they say just to get read. Making a moment out of it is always better.
>>84878569
Correct, but just so you know there are a lot of people like that so don't get all high horse normalfag about it. Where do you think you are?
Domestic violence goes up in cities when their sports team loses, most people have something that they can make or ruin their day/week
>>84879206
Normal people do not watch vtubers. We're all broken to some degree.

>buy those keychains posted earlier from etsy
>shortly after they post on twitter about getting a new customer with pictures of the merch I got
>small hand written thank you note
cute

>>84879206
I know but I'd rather they not think I'm retarded

>>84879449
It's fine because they're retarded and they don't think at all. I have a theory that Fuwawa doesn't even see usernames she just reads what she can. What people think is "favoritism" is her just being fluffy brained/people having good internet connections with minimal lag.

>>84879307
Wait, really? That like the best part.

>>84878678
my brother in fwmc, the amount of times I've had some sass thrown my way because I sound like an absolute moron in chat would be enough to make me go live under a rock if it ever happened irl kek

>>84878972
Now that's some micro plastic I'd buy

>>84879552
she's the one that said the favorite food sardines thing and the your name is wicho part. I think it's mococo that doesn't read names at all

>>84879449
It's ok, they'll just think you're funnier.

>>84878678
I remember during one stream FWMC were taking turns in playing, I think it was Touhou, and my comment cheering for Mococo showed up on screen JUST as Mococo was playing but died and had given the controller to Fuwawa, so Fuwawa read it and went, "No, I'M playing right now wuffians!"

>>84879756
Wasn't that something he tweeted/SC though? You're saying he wrote it in a chat and she remembered?

>>84879773
she does giggle at me a lot and I've never even tried to say something funny I'm being serious...

The real skill is to give them advice in games without sounding like a backseating asshole.
But I have to admit, Fuwawa playing Minecraft would test the patience of a buddhist monk.

>>84879448
It's funny, I got a watercolor commission of Kiara at a con one time, and when I got it she included a little note about watching her (at the time current) first b-day stream while making the art. It was really cute and added to the product for me. Glad you got some nice feedback from buying cute merch.
Now try including them on a FWMC Morning post to see if they'll pick submissions that have fanmerch

>>84879829
>Give Fuwawa directions
>She turns around and changes her mind several times a second
>By the time my direction reaches her eye she's already way off from where she was when I sent it
SO MANY FUCKING TIMES

>>84879443
I suppose you're right. Can't relate, and I'm also "heavily deep into the parasocial gachikoi end of things" but I can't say it's not normal. It's not that I don't have my insecurities, I just don't bring other people into it.
I'm only concerned about whether my grass is greener than my own grass from yesterday.

>>84879912
I'm not an attention whore so no thanks

>>84879862
She's a bit fluffy in the brain..
Use it to your advantage lol

>>84879869
Ignorance is bliss, it's one of those times when I'm happy for never getting into maicra

>>84879861
Yeah he wrote in chat what's my favorite food and she randomly read it and answered it. Same with the Mexican, he just said it randomly and she read it and giggled

>>84879650
I may be retarded. I have three right in front of me and I never even once thought of trying this before.
But it sounds kind of like cursed knowledge in a way. You'll start wanting a new nendo just because you feel like this one accessory will work well with this other nendo you already have. Dangerous.

GG plans to make coins rare
Fuwawa is so fucked

>>84879869
I have not once been annoyed at them for their gameplay, you have to actually be autistic to do so.

https://files.catbox.moe/cql1qm.mp4
Please give me something like this FWMC

>>84879829
KEK, BTFO

>>84880066
Just wait till you realize they sell accessory sets to put on them. I still only buy for shows that I really like though, Kino from Kino's Journey just so happened to come with a handgun and a riffle.

>>84879869
the only people that i see getting mad are the gameplay schizos like that gray name Angus that spams in all caps on cooldown

Please give me something like this FWMC
https://x.com/necoma_kemo/status/1729176324672241870

>>84879944
>I'm only concerned about whether my grass is greener than my own grass from yesterday.
Well that can work against you too because I'm the same way. But if I make them laugh or smile one day and then fail to the next, I feel like shit.

>>84880220
They did, it's the twitterspaces. Just gotta convince them to do them more often.

>>84880220
>plop

>>84879829
it's been a year and you still can't tell the two apart?

>>84879448
I always get a note when I buy some fan goods because they're surprised that someone from such a distant isolated shithole would even know they exist.

>>84880220
Wait where and when the fuck was this? I'm membered by a gift sub and I don't see it in the member section.

>>84879912
I'll try to get some stuff during cons because of this. Hololive isn't that big in my area yet, so it feels great to see the artists lit up whenever you buy their stuff.

>>84880546
T3 content

>>84878972
particularly cute

>>84880594
What the fuck she has actual tiered content. I thought that was illegal ever since the Mori shitshow.

>>84879756
>type something in chat during FUWAMOCO Morning
>she reads me
>doesn't type in a while
>she makes me her first extra special ruffian before I had time to BAU BAU
Mococo 100% reads names.
When they say they watch and recognize us, they really mean it.

FUWAMOCO ON THE NEWS

>>84880594
Tiered content is so retarded

>>84880166
It's not a gameplay thing, it's a fluffy brain thing.

Gigi is capitalizing hard on her ENReco blowup. Steady 9k for an ENReco sum up stream. FWMC should learn for this seeing as how they are numberfags. If the Mococo bandit arc had started earlier and Fuwawa had done something too, they could have gotten a ton of new subs, as is, the Mococo money meme is huge in the clipfag community.

>>84880748
FWMC should give tiered content

>>84880726
they will be in the next mahjong collab

>>84879829
kek I can hear it
>>84879924
also kek

>>84880676
shiori has always had t3 content and is considering stopping voice pack work because she'd rather work on her own stuff

>ruffians are actually for real not even joking readschizos

Now that we're on the topic, what was your personal favorite read from FWMC?

>and numbermonkeys now
jesus christ

>>84879862
ehehe wuffians~ you're so silly~

>>84880934
they told me to use my brain after they read a dumb comment

>>84880934
All the ones that made fuwawa giggle

>>84880974
FWMC are numberfags hardcore, as are...literally all JP Holos. Did the million in under a year goal not tip you off? Or the push of vertical streams when the algo boosted them, to the point that even SC readings were vertical? Or how about wanting a sololive, because nobody gets a sololive unless you are a hardcore numberfag.

>>84880107
Poor Fuwawa...

>>84880934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQalH-9z9qE

>>84880974
Where have you been? There've been thread long civil conversations about NUMBERS with only a few shitposters trying to stir the pot. It was really heavy during June/July with the vertical streaming and counter in the corner.

>>84880362
There's two of them though... how would they share it?

>>84881084
Hey you stupid monkey, almost every hololive girl cares about numbers to an extent. Are you a hololive girl? Are you their manager? No? Alright then.

FUWAMOCO ON THE NEWS

>>84880829
>t.

>>84880867
BAUSED

>>84880726
Missed it, what was it? Tank thing?

>>84881235
>>84881297
If they're going to shit up their content for the sake of NUMBERS, which sadly they are and have, judging by the FOTM slop, vertical streams, and ENReco, they might as well be smart about it so we don't have to suffer as much. As it is, they're playing another Chillas Arts game this week.

>>84881420
Shut up monkey

>>84880882
kinda baused ngl

>>84881084
I don't care when hololive girls themselves numberfag, I think it's cute when FWMC do it because their work ethic is one of the reasons I love them so much, but when fans of them complain in their threads and shit them up or tell them to do certain things on stream it becomes retarded

>>84881420
Eat shit. This Chillas Art game will be fine because you have a job to do during it. Every one that had that has had really good moments of them just kinda playing the part or talking about their history with whatever place they're working at.

>>84881145
That was very cute, good comment.

Just catching up to the FWMC Morning VOD.
They were more excited shilling Raora's cover than Nerissa's orisong.

>>84881420
sorry, yagoo's cousin has to make bank too

WHY DO I SEE BIG TEXTS IN A BAIT CHAIN

>>84881515
>AI slop
Oh so you're just trying to stir shit while pretending to be a Ruffian. Explains the projection about being a monkey, you're brown.
>>84881524
Chillas Arts games are fucking garbage the only reason anyone plays them is they are guaranteed numbers from casuals who want to see anime girls scream.

>cover wanted nearly equal distributions for the dere voice packs
>everyone chose yandere

>>84880220
Whats the timestamp where she rips a massive fart and I can hear some shit come out

>>84881297
Bae's breasts are way too big

>>84879650
based /k/orbo

>>84881660
Yeah, I kinda wish people were more willing to do something different. The memes and ironic weebs love yandere though.

What are you up to on their off day, Ruffians? I went to the gym, ate some slopdonald’s and passed out for 4 hours

I don't like the font that was used on the ruffians fanname keychain

>>84881641
You want her SO bad.

>>84881834
This looks like Mococo is looking at her gut, confused as to why she is fat.

>>84881834
Took today off because I didn't know how long (or drunk) I would be at a friend's going away party last night, so it's a chill day watching a bit of the tail end of ENReco and listening to Gigi's wrapup now. Got to catch a little bit of the watchalong, basically most of the second set which means I missed their reaction to Baudol, but it was still fun.

>>84881790
Yandere is so boring when you don't have the rest of the character building up to it. tsundere Fuwawa and kuudere or deredere Mococo would have been great.

>>84881084
>>84881420
baused

>>84881790
>ironic weebs
holoJP all picked yandere too though

>>84880676
Kek just because some globalfags threw a shitfit over something a lot of Holos do doesn't mean it was banned

>>84882000
its because japs want to kill themselves

>>84881998
Kuudere Fuwawa would have been amazing. That's what I really want out of these kinds of things, a swap on what they're normally like.

>>84882000
the average japanese fan has very bland taste

>>84882036
The most any JPs did was a tier for emote only and even that I don't think anyone did until after EN. Mori came in knowing nothing about Hololive and vtubing and management was like 2 people at the time so she based it off Twitch streamers which she was familiar with, being cancer herself. It's not something a "lot of Holos do" and you can't prove otherwise because you're just making shit up and repeating what shitposters have said.

>>84881235
>Hey you dumb baseball fan why don't you watch the game instead of talking about stats of players
Some people enjoy the stats anon. And those people tend to be more knowledgable about the game anyway. It's like saying why not just watch the movie instead of talking about the background of how it was made, different strokes

It is quite weird how there's few if any FWMC custom assets

back to school packs are good, though, if you skipped that one and don't feel like going for yandere

>>84881660
Everyone loves yandera because everyone wants to imagine a possessive woman obsessing over them

>>84882180
Mococo's felt like an ad about being ready for school at times, Fuwawa's was really nice.

>>84881641
It's kinda funny how the other threads are crying or shitposting about Gigi and ENReco RP and /baubau/ is just looping some of the usual shit as normal. Never change /baubau/, for good reason this time.

FWMC can't act to save their lives

>>84882253
people like yandere the same way they liked giant women when RE8 came out, it only keeps going because there's endless generic yandere characters whereas giant women are still rare.

could fwmc beat a billion lions

>>84882171
your right it's like going to watch a movie and the guy sitting next to you can't stop talking about the stats of the movie your trying to enjoy, imagine watching a movie next to this guy:
>WOW DID YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T EVEN THE MOST WATCHED MOVIE THIS YEAR
>IF THEY HAD RYAN RENOLDS PLAY THIS CHARACTER THIS WOULD BE DEFINITELY TOP 10
>I WISH CHRISTOPHER NOLAN MADE THIS SCENE LONGER THEY WOULD GET SO MANY MORE TIKTOK CLIPS
I would want to kill myself the entire time and kill him.
There are quarantines for this shit go back to /#/ you fucking monkey

since numberGODS are taking over, you think them engaging more with Community lately is them trying to get on the good side of youtube's algorithm again?

>>84882300
What other threads are bitching about Gigi? Why would they be?

Byauw Byauw makes me wonder if any scientists or breeders have tried to make a Dog and Cat crossbreed.

I could be a better manager than any Holo's current manager. I know EN/JP and have experience in broadcasting (traditional), will the fact that I know about Hololive disqualify me or will they not immediately throw my CV in the trash?

>>84882300
Stop lying

>>84882486
What's engaging to you? Doesn't really seem to have changed. Call me when they start doing something like weekly member posts.

>>84882471
Nobody is bringing up numbers hardcore or doing anything even remotely comparable to your strawman since they aren't even streaming right now, just saying that FWMC should be smarter about it but you knew that cause you're a shitposter LARPing as a Ruffian.

>>84882534
They won't throw it in the trash, but you're more likely to be staff than a talent manager. That's considered an entry level position for Cover. That's why so many are useless.

>>84882000
Because the Japs are baused like their enjoyment for NTR as well

>>84882299
Good. I like their subpar acting it makes me smile knowing they're trying their best.

>>84882579
I didn't expect them to repost that yandere voice pack tweet on community, don't think they usually do that, but maybe I'm wrong.
Also them seeing the original community post for the cover got deboosted and doing another one without the link, which did much better.

can someone please tell me what kaizoku is

>>84882772
piwate!

>>84882471
That analogy would only be valid if you're sitting here reading posts on 4chan while a stream is live. You don't do that, right anon?

>>84882768
Oh, I didn't even realize they made a post for the VP. Also it's kinda sad that they had to repost it.

>>84882534
Would you be a better manager than her?

numberniggers don't deserve to live
they bring nothing worthwhile to the world

>>84882772
AHOY

>>84882859
yes but how!

>>84882895
GEMMCHAN GET OUT OF HERE DON'T YOU HAVE WORK TO DO

>>84882682
Sick, so I'd be taking a pay cut AND not be in a position to improve the atrocious state of talent managers who fail to advocate for their talents and also to tard wrangle. Nvm there's no point.

>>84882941
https://youtu.be/i8ju_10NkGY?si=2QDXLYuC7YYbRi1j

>>84882917
Why do ENfags have such a viceral hatred of numbers and success. Is it because EN has coasted for so long and they've never had the real idol experience?

>>84883024
yes but you don't have to say it.

>>84882534
Mori said that: THEY ONLY HIRE PEOPLE WITH GOOD HEART
its over anon
jk they hired erb

>>84883024
I want them to be successful, talking about ways they can be successful on 4chan and being obnoxious fags about it does not help them be successful in any way.

>>84883190
All idols want you to care about their numbers anon. How can you push your oshi if you don't care about how many views their songs get? Kpop stans have more passion than you for supporting their bias

>>84883010

>>84882772
its the name of towa's fanbase newfag.

>>84883186
I don't know how she said that with a straight face when people like Kronii exist. Then again she and Ollie were hired and they immediately set out to destroy and reform Hololive so maybe she's just in her bubble.

>>84883361
>All idols want you to care about their numbers
This
there's a side-arc in Nikaidou Hell Golf showing badly idols who aren't popular are treated.

>>84883361
Are you purposefully misunderstanding? Everyone wants them to reach the stars, not everyone wants to talk about all the possible ways they can boost their numbers because there's literally no value in those discussions.

>>84883574
And that's why they're streamers. It's not fully leaning on the idol stuff to both fund them and produce their content. They don't live and die on their music or shows.

>>84883662
There's value because FWMC are absolutely here and want to know what Ruffians think. If we say we hate numbershit but understand they have to do it to achieve their goals, at least we could steer them towards effective numbershit.

>>84883736
>FWMC are absolutely here
you really do have a monkey brain

>>84883662
A good start for helping them reach the stars is not complaining, bitching and moaning whenever they do something that helps them do that like vertical streams but that's just me

>>84883921
What do the people that complain about that have to do with this conversation?

>>84883921
Ok so we should openly shit on them for vertical streams?

>>84884245

I want to go to fes next year, but I’m worried if my weight will make it difficult for me. I’m pushing 300lbs and worried that Japanese infrastructure will struggle to handle my West Virginian ass. I know it’s a thing to try and get fat for Fuwawa, but I’d like to lose some weight, has anyone had success with weight loss?

>>84884585
Nikocado Avocado

>>84884585
>I know it’s a thing to try and get fat for Fuwawa
Please don't genuinely believe this

I didn't mind vertical streams at all. Anyway the #shorts thing was patched so you can stop crying and shitting up the thread about them now.

>>84884585
haha you're fat

>>84884585
Anon first of all Fuwawa is into PUDGY men not fat fucks. Second she also wants you to be healthy too
Lose weight lard ass

>>84884647
Well thank fuck, did someone let them know that as a preemptive measure?