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Story recap. There was one story posted last thread:
GonJyon head canon greens >>84582355
Tags: ENreco, GonJyon, Amelia Watson, Gigi Murin, SFW, Greentext

>>84700855
Oh yes, a visit from Choco-sensei...

>>84700893
Hyouge Mono. Highly recommend it, it's the best manga I've ever read. There's also an anime adaptation which covers only a part of the manga, but it's got a banger OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmdxgxsrL4
It's great if you're into historical fiction or history of Japan but also if you're just an otaku: the way the pursuit of aesthetics is depicted in Hyouge Mono is analogous to otaku culture, characters in Hyouge Mono are kinda like otaku hobbyists but in the Sengoku era.

>>84703479
What are her lower legs doing?

>>84703631
Choking a human servant

>>84703801
How shallow is the pool below her then, 40cm? Why is she in the kiddy area?

>>84704099
The human servant happened to be by the poolside just next to that spot at the moment when he made the fuck-up that made Ayame angry. Ayame then pulled him in the water and proceeded to give him underwater torture.

For writers looking for BWH measurements when writing their stories, where do you usually go for them? Do you estimate from the chuuba ref sheets, have a biometrics calculator you use, or just wing it?

>>84700922
The young hero defeating the cruel aristocrat Pavolia Reine and cleansing the evil in her by having sex with her
Then she makes you take responsibility and you have to support her lifestyle (video games and skirt chasing)

>>84704341
I activate my shaman eyes

>>84704341
I make them fit my tastes and/or what the story needs. Then I decide if it's believably within the canon sizes, or if it's an explicit deviation (like oppai Laplus).

>>84704341
There's a few charts out there, but the the official chuuba reference sheets are the usual go to for me. Personally it's less of a matter of exact measurements and more about knowing how they compare to others and keeping that sorta thing in mind.

>>84704485
You tried this last thread, and why would he have to take responsibility if he beat her? He won just to lose, and that's pretty lame.

>>84704640
>You tried this last thread
and?

>>84704485
Not a very good cleansing if she's still like that. Have better sex

>>84704289
Thanks for the deep lore on that image. Can you explain why her tits are so perfect in it, too?

>>84704640
You are responsible for those you tamed^W saved.

>>84700922

Try a comfy fic with Gen 0 (AZKi, Sora, Roboco, Miko, Suisei). I notice they don't get a lot of love as a group, but from a fiction standpoint if might be interesting to see their personalities bounce off of each other.

This, but it's a bodybuilding contest. All five girls have muscles bigger than the Incredible Hulk, especially gigantic pectorals. They're all hanging out backstage, casually chatting and lifting impossible amounts of weight. But it's all light-hearted and cheerful. Lots of flexing to show off for each other. Then they each take the stage to do their posing routines, all growing with each flex, then the final posedown together on stage.

My personal preference: AZKi wins, she ends up getting bigger than everyone else with even bigger pecs, but she's humble and honored to be on stage flexing with her honored friends.

The core of the story was about AZKi, Suisei, Sora, Miko and Roboco all growing ridiculously gigantic muscles, especially their pectorals, with AZKi being the biggest and most pectacular by far. Tons of flexing and showing off and posing, pressing muscle against muscle, maybe some very light les stuff between AZKi and Sora, and ending with my favorite, AZKi, just outpecflexing everything. And some interaction, dialogue, etc, to show off their peronalities and show they're not just empty YCH. Something that could have been easily done with a simple bodybuilding contest and concert or something.

>>84704973
That's just genetics and nutrition really

Up

>>84705405
If she committed crimes, her ass is either going in jail, or I would have beaten the reform into her. Also since when is defeating a corrupt noble the same as taming them? The sex was just part of the battle where she tried to use her charms to get me to join her side, but since she is too gay, it didn't work.

I'm a deranged yuri shipper and futa enthusiast.

>>84707871
you must love ao3 then

>>84706926
And what if you impregnated her? You dumped loads into her fertile villainess womb

>>84704341
Theres a video that ranks members based on their model's bust size but honestly, you're best off generalizing and using comparisons

>>84711456
Hey, no clothes in the pool!

>>84708975
If I made her a mother, she wouldn't be chasing skirts still.

>>84711616
Including swimsuits?
altered common sense scenario: hypnotized girls start treating the "no clothes in the pool" rule way too seriously and will strip boys naked and drag them into the pool to drain

>>84711616
What about chloethes?

>>84714474
And here I thought they were hypnotized so they'd take their own swimsuits off.

>>84713219
that's an underage girl

>>84717649
That's what she wants you to think

>>84717679
to put her clothes back on?

>>84713219
Getting Ui teen pregnant!

>>84718086
fuck I read that wrong. I thought you said "I think she wants what you think."

>>84718145
DyslexicChama...

>>84706760
I love this artstyle

My life and wife...

>>84720356
She graduates March 2025

>>84720356
Post merch

>>84721637
(To have my children(again))

>>84700922
Using a Bae branded onahole in front of her

>>84721693
NTA but if you insista.

>>84721922
then Bae shrinks to rat size and you use her as an onahole

>>84713219
An oyakodon fic between Ui and Subaru...

>>84727074
>Subaru you have to eat have to eat all the eggs.

>>84728589
Damn it, not THAT kind of Oyakodon
>See Subaru and Ui passed out drunk on the street. They absolutely REEK of booze.
>Load them both onto your van and bring them home.
>Let them sleep on the bed while you sleep on the couch.
>Deal with their freak outs as they wake up.
>"You two don't need to tell me what happened. But you have to eat all these eggs," you say as you hand them this huge bowl of hard-boiled eggs.
>Then look like they barely understand what you just said.
>So you peel off one of the eggs and start eating it in front of them.
>"Like this," you say, taking a bit of pride in your egg-peeling abilities.
>"Wh-Why are you doing this...?" Subaru whimpers.

>>84729317
>"It's a good hangover cure. Also you need the protein"
>they both look at you disgusted
>"i'd Ui Beam your creepy ass dead if my head wasn't killing me right now"

Said a few threads ago that I wanted to write a story about a giant Ao from an idea I had for a while, managed to finish a WIP of the story and wanted to share it to get pointers from other writers, fans of ReGLOSS, and fans of holoX. Clocking in at 13,944 words right now on the intro, not sure if I want to maintain the WIP title, but I want to put a lot of love into this, and make it a fun story for fans of both groups to read. Please see the WIP below:

>justpaste(DOT)it(SLASH)fgtdu

>Synopsis: A very preventable accident during a ReGLOSS/holoX collaboration trip to Osaka causes Hiodoshi Ao to turn into a giant woman, possibly putting the trip and ending concert into turmoil as Ao-kun expands to 30 meters tall. Will both groups manage to turn the tribulations of the trip in their favor, or will Ao-kun's gigantic girlfailure moments cause more trouble than it's worth?

Very newfag to these threads, and writing Hololive in general, any criticism and/or scenario suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

eggu
sandwichu

>>84720356
anon, she's like forty five.

>>84735785
You say that like it's a problem.

>>84732143
>justpaste(DOT)it(SLASH)fgtdu
it doesnt lead to anywhere nigga. paste it on rentry, its way easier that way.

Rentry or googleDocs are the preferred way because they are the less troublesome ones altough you can use anything else...it just makes it a tad more annoying to use

>>84735785
So am i

>>84734893
My favourite. Thank you, dear

>>84734893
Can you really afford to gift eggs Mio? dont you need those?

>>84717531
What are you talking about of course they are already naked and following the rules

Slow day eh?

>>84738727
Sorry about that, have been used to Justpaste it as a site for other stuff I've written in the past for formatting purposes. Please let me know if this Rentry link works out, never used the site before:

rentry co/2fnysr4a

>>84744359
rentry.org/2fnysr4a

>>84745326
I think your prose is serviceable, but it sometimes gets a little too literal which makes some descriptions within scenes come off a little dry. Like the name dropping of very specific things almost takes some of the immersion out.

Your attention to dialogue detail makes the interactions feel natural and free flowing. The overall structure of the fic however seems at odds with itself, at least early on.

You go into a light degree of world building, but I'm not sure that is super necessary for the fic unless you are writing with the intention that it would be read by people with no knowledge of Hololive or the talents. It almost reads like there was supposed to be more happening before the fic gets underway.

As for the content itself, I got no horse in any giant sized girl race. I personally don't understand the appeal of making a woman big enough to break an entire city block by tripping, but it just ain't my bag. I can only assume by the detail and passion you put in that you manage to hit the appeal of it, even if I don't understand it. Overall, not a bad WiP at all.

Hello, new to the thread. I'm a conventional writer that would like to start building an audience for holofanfic.
Where do the cool kids host their work nowadays? I know here it's pretty anonymized for good reason, but if I wanted to attach a name to it, is wattpad or FF.N still the place to do it?
Is there any hashes used on twitter that I might be able to use to get eyes on it?

>>84753763
Ao3 is probably your best bet nowadays, wattpad is basically a dumping ground for low-quality stuff and FF is nowhere near as active as it used to be. You'll have to wait a bit for an account if you don't have one already, but that's probably the biggest place you'll find. As for shilling your fics on Xitter I have no fucking clue

>>84754531
Understandable, just put in for an account.
This might seem like a strange question, but do people that usually post here connect their work to a name? I feel like vt's relationship to it's progenitor community is a little different, so I'm not sure how kosher it is to write here under the same alias I'd use conventionally.

>>84753763
>>84754531
ao3 is the only site. Wattpad is a joke and Fanfiction dot net is so broken even old crusty writers are moving from there.

Twitter is its own beast. You see, first the community has to take note of you...then they have to like your content...and then it has to achieve the highest notoriety it can get: becoming the brain parasite of an artist.
Basically, if you dont get fanart made of the fanfic then its permanently stuck in 4 or so views unless the stars align and it blows up.

>>84753763
No idea how to shill, but I upload my stuff periodically to Ao3 and FF net. Audience interaction is extremely variable on both those places though, so just keep that in mind.

>>84755531
Not really. A bunch of author's post their stuff to Ao3 as well, sort of like a personal archive, but you'll never see them namefagging here.

>>84717649
Stop provoking my dick, I'm already horny enough.

>>84755541
I would hate to post my work on twitter and have it gain popularity. People on that website are absolutely vindictive bastards and a lot of them are just waiting for the smallest excuse.

>>84700922
i think calli should be evil and mean to me in a loving way
>>84759977
you find people like that everywhere really. Twitter is just more likely to attract them because it has a massive userbase.

>>84759977
Just treat them like you'd treat a deranged person in real life: ignore them. Personally I'm already mentally prepared to get called a pedophile everyday for the rest of my life for drawing anime girls if I ever make it as an artist.

>>84702327
Thanks. I'll check it out.

>>84760566
Lovey-dovey sex with an evil Mori!
Degrading hand jobs where she jacks you while showing you lewd photos of herself!

>>84755531
Post your story wherever you want, but keep any usernames away from here.

>>84766405
...photos of herself naked as a child!

>>84703479
That body is perfection beyond humanity

>>84766405
>get this degrading treatment
>start getting curious about NTR
>confess the idea to Evil Mori
>she shoves you on the bed and mounta on top of you.
>"what the fuck are you trying to say? You know, when all those guys kept calling you 'cuckbeat', you weren't actually supposed to become one!"
>she starts straddeling your stiffening cock
>"now you better keep this little guy awake until I'm satisfied, or I will subject you to a worse hell for even suggesting such a disghisting idea~"
>get subjected to the wildest sex known to man

>>84768433
The body looks pretty good but it also feels like the artist just copied the body from a real life reference and then smashed an anime head on top of it without really trying to integrate the two. The more I look at it, the weirder it feels.

>>84770462

>>84767458
That's horrible what the fuck

>>84772103
But what if Mori was born 18 years old. Does that make it better?

>>84772103
To be fair, lolicalli is pretty cute

>>84734893
Are eggs suppose to look like that on a piece?

>Oneesan raping a shota

Good stuff, but a dime a dozen.

>Shota raping an oneesan

GOOD LORD, THAT IS GENIUS

>>84773935
How about non-rape?

>>84750926
Thank you for the read and review, I'll make a run back through and trim out some of the namedrops - were there any specific ones that stood out as immersion-breaking? I have a general idea of some that could be trimmed and replaced better, but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything major.

>The overall structure of the fic however seems at odds with itself, at least early on.
This was in regards to the light worldbuilding next line, yes? Would it help to parse down the intro paragraphs a bit, in terms of describing the two main-player groups and Osaka at large?

Thanks again for the reply, I appreciate the help, and I'll focus more on "Just the facts, Jack" as I get into the parts where Ao starts accidentally destroying landmarks and causing overall chaos. I won't be annoying by posting more WIPs for every single new section, but just to make sure it's allowed, would doing a 60%/90%/Final submission sort of thing be kosher? I'll probably swap to Google Docs next to be more reader-friendly and hopefully format-friendly, but I haven't used it before, to be honest, so I'm hoping it'll be a easy transition from OpenOffice.

>>84773935
What about:

>Hag kidnapping a shota and inflicting 'stockholm syndrome' on him because she's incapable of having children of her own and she wants someone to call her 'mama'.

>>84774903
Still technically under oneesan raping shota.

>>84774990
Not if there's no rape involved it doesn't.

>>84774903
Wait a minute... wherr have I heard this one before?

>>84775102
Are you perhaps thinking of that one prompt I made that involves Mio kidnapping a shota and then someone quoted me by saying they watched Spongebob together?

>>84774903
This but they're kidnapped as a baby from their real family, and it's the prologue to a cool fantasy series where the shota discovers their hidden ancestry.

>>84700922
WMOF

>>84775268
World Meeting Of Families?

>>84775349
I think its more 'White male Oni Female'.

>>84775136
No but that post you made is llterally the plot of ALS

>>84775419
ALS doesn't involve 'kidnapping' though, anon.

>>84775412
>>84775268
Me (22M) and my spouse (1573F)

>>84767458
>>84773493
>One night, drun as shit, Mori plans to send you some nudes
>Lost in thought she scrolls down far enough in her gallery to reach some images she transferred when she got the phone
>It's her at 8, 9, and 10
>Doing a bunch of lewd poses, explicit and not
>She sends one where she's spreading her perky buttcheeks apart and giving the camera a full view of her cornhole
>Next morning, something's wrong. You won't talk to her, you won't make eye contact
>You won't answer to the classical "Did I do something stupid while drunk?" either
>That night, you call Mori over, make out.
>Show her the pic she sent you
>She's moritfied, but you ask her rather 'encouraging' questions
>Who took these?
>I did...
>You were a slutty little girl, weren't you?
>Mori is in full panick mode, but also impossibly aroused
>Soon you prone bone her while scrolling through her gallery and dropping comments about what a beautiful cunny she had when she was a little childslut
>I would've raped you, you mutter
>Mori moans
>I'd run my hands all over that pretty body, I'd shove you in a public bathroom and force you to suck my cock
>She grunts
>Oh Mori, I want to fuck you bad in your primary schooler uniform
>She cums
>A few days go by
>Mori drags you to the storage unit at work
>Shows you a creepshot of a little girl at a park
>Asks what you would to do this one.

>>84775452
Does emotional kidnapping count?

>>84776202
Isn't that what 'Stockholm Syndrome' basically is, anon? Like, I looked up what emotional kidnapping meant and other than what I just mentioned, all it gave me was something like this:

>'An emotional hostage is someone who is stuck feeling like they don't know what to do in a particular situation or relationship as a result of someone attempting to emotionally manipulate them. There are a broad number of situations to which this applies.'

I don't think that's what I'm looking for. The shota that would be kidnapped would be allowed 'some' free will and the only thing they wouldn't be allowed is to leave. But I'd rather it be a scenario in a GOOD way because the kidnapper is suppose to be seen in a good light and the shota does NOT want to leave (even if the kidnapper has regrets and wants to return him to his biological parents).

>>84700922
I want Fauna being a good mom. No twist. Nothing sexual. Just her taking care of her saplings as a good mom.

>>84774903
>'stockholm syndrome'

Why did you put air quotes around that? It' makes it look like you think its a made up condition

>>84777780
>Oh I'm 'Grooming' you child? He's way below the 'age of consent'?

>>84777946
Anon...? What are you saying to me here?

>>84777780
Its not a made up condition though, anon,. I put those marks because I'm British and that's how they use the quotation marks (whereas Americans use ").

>>84778059
go suck on your icelollie while you watch the telly in your pub or whatever it is you do, brit. The adults (Americans) are talking.

>>84778174
I'm just saying it how it is. My entire life I use to use " when stressing certain words and I only just recently used ' because I've been using the quotation marks incorrectly.
Are you now going to tell me I'm using the quotation marks incorrectly and should just type altogether? Because I'm certain the alternative would be me using certain words in all caps instead.

>>84777995
That you're plain crazy! You're making up all these words that make it sound like I'm doing something wrong to the little boy. Next you're gonna tell me I don't need to be taking those pictures of him at the pool, or the bathroom, or that he's old enough to wash himself and I don't need to scrub him all over with my tongue, and that dressing him up in cute clothes when he's with me is actually 'wrong' or something...

>>84779048
Fubuki, we talked about this with your lawyer. There are some things that should remain inside thoughts.

>>84780296
Just imagine using this thing as a tenga

>>84780296
Would you still love and cherish Fubuki if she were a FAT FUCK?

>>84781359
I would slim her down by the sheer power of daily dickings if she were fat.
Can't help it, I love fat bitches.

>>84777780
Pretty sure Stockholm Syndrome is more folk psychology than something scientific.

>>84774664
In regards to namedrops, specifically things like Marine's single was not super necessary. Instead opt to do something like convey how the melody makes the one perspective feel or think. It helps make things a little less on the nose.

>Worldbuilding lengths
I don't think the length is really the issue, I personally think it's more about the content about Osaka and the general idol industry. It just doesn't feel super necessary since it is more or less what we know Hololive to be in our own reality. Like a general rule of thumb when it comes to world building is the further you venture into something that is fantastical or unlike what we have in our own world, the more inclined you are to convey that to the reader. Like here ReGloss and HoloX are just touring on normal idol duties and such, not a huge stretch of the imagination for us to picture what they're doing and the social climate.

>WiP feedback frequency
Yeah I think as long as you're polite about it, asking for more feedback at intervals where there's a good amount to parse through is fine. We also have a beta reader list in the archive that you can peruse and see if you would like to contact any of them.

>>84781395
Isn't the purpose of loving fat bitches is that they don't GET slim and stay the weight they are?

>>84783963
That's probably why he said that he can't help it

>>84784081
Oh so I read it wrong? 'slim her down' made my mind literally think that he would constantly fuck her with his dick because he wants to slim her down.

>>84781395
You could always make it so she doesn't have to exert herself much during the dickings, and counter-feed her.

>>84784187
The slimming down is a bad side effect but the pussy is just too good.

>>84784755
Ah, I see.
I apologise for reading what you said earlier incorrectly. I've a terrible habit on taking things at face value and thought you only wanted to fuck a fat chick because you wanted her nice and slim.

Up

>>84775412
>>84775268
We already have that then, more specifics please.

>>84787514
Are there fics that actually emphasize that aspect of it as a plot point?

>>84787799
The difference between oni and human?

>>84787975
White man's colonial conquest for exotic manko

>>84787514
Isn't the point of WMFO suppose to be some sort of 'domination' of the male trying to overpower the female?

>>84788154
You could do a tasteful exploration of an interracial relationship and all the stuff that entails like culture shock or you could go the C O L O N I Z E MY M A N K O route

>>84772103
And it's also my fetish!

>>84700922
Getting blackmailed by your singing student, Irys.

>>84788037
>>84788154
Oh it's about that. Oni's Rebellion has Ayame being subdued by you but it's part of a sm roleplay

>>84790283
I'm not sure 'sm roleplay' is what happens in WMFO scenarios at all.
...At least that's what porn has told me with their cancerous 'BMWF' tripe.

>>84790486
No idea about it apart from what people posted. Might have to write it themselves

>>84790576
Yeah probably. It probably also sounds not that interesting in the full run but at least I explained what 'WMFO' meant.
...I don't think a WMFO could have non-sex in it correct?

>>84790486
It is an argument that involves racial superiority, so at least there is that.

>>84789429
HF true end, trust the plan

Time and thought fumbled in your presence,
the stars forever jealous of the shine in your eyes.

Spellbound by your voice, chained to your heart
like a dog on a leash until the day I die.
The cold winter melts away in the spring of your warmth, and my soul giggles with a grin
When you smile at me.

Had you pictured this? You ask when the years trail behind.
Like tails, like a path that we traversed together,
Hand in hand.
I did, I reply, when your lips sealed your name
with fire in my heart.

Eternal flame, that burns deep within,
gods of all ages, wherever they might be.
Wherever my soul lies after I die,
let it be next to hers, let us find each other again.

And no matter her name,
or her face,
I will know by the day I feel nervous,
It's her.

And when the moon takes hold of the sky,
and I have your body sank into mine,
I will fuck you so deep and hard
Insurance for your pussy bones will be had

Ookami Mio, light of my life,
Please let me make you a mother, and to forever be your man.

>>84792736
>"Hey Maririn, that man is reciting poetry peko!"
>"Oh you see that all the time in the /wg/ Bar. You should give it a try too, Pekora. You like poetry after all."
>"Eeehh, I don't know peko..."
I will fuck you so deep and hard
Insurance for your pussy bones will be had
>"..."
>"..."
>"That's so disgusting peko..."
>"Hahaha!"

>>84793453
I've wanted to write a gag where Anon is a poet who only writes poems about his wife Mio, and they're literally just raunchy verses of porn
>I will harpoon your poon all night, just like Moby buy with my Dick

And everyone thinks he's fucking disgusting except for Mio, and porn-reviewer Iroha.

Hoooh! Your wordcount is very impressive, ruffian!

>>84795982
I dunno Mogojan, he hasn't touched that WiP in a while...

I command thee, live!

>>84795982
T-thanks mangojohn

>>84788833
Uhhhhh… source?

>>84795982
Thanks Mocochan. It's going to get bigger and I hope you like it.

>>84732143
As a big lady enthusiast I feel like I have to give your WIP a good lookthrough. I agree with the anon here >>84750926 , you have a lot of sections that are needlessly detailed, but I'd say it goes beyond "overly detailed" into pointless meandering. The plot feels like it waffles back and forth (especially the section where Ao recalls the previous night) between "big lady" and explaining ReGloss / HoloX. Certainly there's nothing wrong with wanting to explain things and adding worldbuilding for those that are unfamiliar with either group and their characters, but to me, it feels like it distracts far too much from Ao most of the time. I do think you capture the quirks and personalities of the characters in their dialog pretty well.

As far as the "big lady" part of the fic, you are lacking a lot of details and comparison which makes it difficult for me to properly envision just how YUGE she is.
Take the very beginning- starting right with Ao growing out of her trailer and waking up in shock. We don't know HOW big she gets, and you describe her holding the sheet metal of the trailer against her body to cover herself, but you don't give any detail with that either. Is she holding those scraps in her hands like playing cards? Like a large book? Beyond the fact that she's big enough to easily hold these sheets of scrap metal, we get zero sense of scale. (Also given how much you go into worldbuilding about where their campground is you don't ever mention even in passing how big these trailers are). Then you have her talking to various characters, describing how loud she is at that size, how even a whisper is almost deafening, which then gets promptly ignored when she picks up Chloe's trailer and screams at her. Even if your intention is NOT doing this from a fetish angle, you need a lot more detail or description of her size to sell the fact that she's actually big. Consider her current actions and even her current posture in any scene where she's near a bunch of normal sized characters- every slight movement and action is going to affect them in some way, maybe she accidentally knocks someone over shifting her legs around, or she kicks up a bunch of dirt onto someone else raising her hand.

You've got a good start and a little cutting here and there would do a lot of good.

>>84795982
(Moco-chan can't count past 20, she thinks all wordcounts are big)

>>84803572
Thank you for the detailed response, especially in the description of hugeness angle. In hindsight, like with the trailer example, I can do a lot better to make comparisons and add to the sense of scale, but for something like the loudness of the voice, with the intention to have a good amount of dialogue going forward, is it something that should be bought up frequently - in the form of mentioning characters covering their ears in discomfort and the like - or just at key points, like arriving at a new locale, screaming, singing at a concert, etc.?

Seeing as you're a big lady enthusiast, would you be able to recommend any good fics to study for the depiction of scale as you describe? I've read a couple here and there that usually just go hard numbers before having the lady kick buildings over, and that probably ain't helping me much long-term. Appreciate the help on the descriptive angle of the story.

>you seriously call THAT a word count?
>let me guess. dropped this idea and started another "WIP" that will inevitably have the same size problem?
>you should lock this sad fic up so no one has to look at such a sad display of text that can berally even get a basic idea across

>>84810787
Ah yes AZKi, abuse me and my wordcounts more...

>>84795982
>>84796864
Neutral good
>>84810787
lawful evil
this is a dynamic i can get behind

>>84810787
I thought it was rather impressive for something only halfway done...

>>84810230
Okayu having a heart attack because you only feed her crap food and don't let her exercise

>>84812160
Idc about word count.
Doesn't matter how much words it has if it is really bad anyways.
Or worse yet, uninteresting. The one thing that kills the soul of an author, telling it that their work doesn't even work as a time wasting tool. Not even the basic need of entertaining is filled by their work.

>>84812990
I'm honestly more worried its too much of a downer. AZKi goes to the funeral, there's going to be significant conflict between Sora and Fubuki and I find myself actually rather depressed by it so I'm trying to find some way of lightening up the tone a bit.

The latter half is going to be a mostly "suffering builds character -> suffering builds character -> suffering builds character" thing so I want this to be a more happy, heartfelt period of the story that I can look back on when things get a bit to tense. I remember HJanon, or someone who was reading and critquing Blackbean, said it was hard just to watch punished Botan and I've taken that to heart in all my stories since then. Suffering does build character, but happiness gives suffering meaning and gives character its depth. I'm just not quite as adept at it as needed and twenty pages is usually what allows me to balance those tones as best i can.

>>84810787
woops sorry i was busy
yoink

>>84813365
I think an important part of the "suffering builds character" path is how your character responds to suffering. Given the correct circumstances, it could very well work to have a mental breakdown, but those are usually best followed by a longer buildup of events and caused by 1 final straw. In less intense scenarios, it's better to use those moments to showcase that while your character is having a rough time, how they respond to them outside of self wallowing or pain is even more important. When our backs are to the wall, our true characters can shine through.

>>84814426
>HAAAAH, FUWAWA, MAEK IT STOP!
>B-Biboo-chan, t-those civilians were unarmed
>YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

>>84814552
>Fuwawa, burdened by the endless atrocities her friend has committed, slowly becomes desensitized, and eventually joins Bijou in bringing suffering to others
>Mococo, thinks it's wrong but is easily manipulated into accepting it, but in the back of her mind she always questions herself, but at every potential breakthrough all it takes is a simple line from one of those close to her to shake away the intrusive thoughts of morality.
The jewel of emotions is terrifying indeed.

>>84814552
>>84815128
but what if fuwamoco is a girl that "split" her conscience in two due to the trauma of ethnic cleansing.

>>84814426
Exactly. AZKi will probably have that straw that breaks the camels back moment soon, Sora's will be down the line which is why I want pre-deployment to be an anchor for her in what's to come. That way, it's not me just beating Sora over the head with as much misery as I can cook up in my head.

What I also mean to say is that I'm not making each chapter long just to be long. I'm trying to figure out tone balancing and so far the best way my amature mind can do is to make these long and deliberate so everyone can have a moment of weakness followed by something to make them a bit lighter. As always, I'm still learning how to write a genre I am not very acoustmed to writing. Abuse and misery in fics comes easy to me, trying to keep a balance of happy and sad is something I am not very skilled at. I hope it isn't to miandering as a result, but everyone also says I move too quick so I'm trying to let this story take its time to mature.

>>84815457
>At the arc's climax when you help them face their traumas

>>84815711
as much as i love the prompt...NO! i refuse it
Fuwamoco is the worst parts of the sisters, its a cowardly greedy bastard that has no spine and is constantly triying and failing to get away before getting smacked into the ground, where she cowers and whines.

she's a pathetic husk of a person and her personalities is how she would rather be: Either a dumb but earneast lackey that does not concern with right or wrong OR a middle manager that calls the shots and bullies someone far more pathetic than her while still not being held accountable

>>84815969
Well you know what? I disagree. Let's both incorporate the ideal Fuwamoco in our stories.

>>84815969
>>84817244
Mococo is such a succubus goddamit. what if she isnt actually a demon? that would explain the boners she produces

>>84815969
So clearly the true heroine is WawaCoco!

>>84814552
time to correct the evil rock

>claims he's writing an elfchuuba in character when he's not writing her as a fuckslave

Embarrassing that people actually do this

>>84820150
evil bilbo my belove

>>84822901
Watch out, she will use a swear word.

Is there a consensus on what gun Ame uses? I think I've seen her with a Colt M1911 mostly but I want to hear /wg/'s thoughts.

>>84822496
I can see your fucking ears Flare
Quit it with the flaseflagging

>>84826607
A nambu or a beretta 1923 to make gun nuts mald

in reality she just uses a glock because it inexplicably can withstand time jumping

>>84826858
It feels wrong to imagine Ame (forma la detective) without a revolver. I can kind of see more modern firearms for her other costumes but base form Ame feels like she'd be locked into Victorian and or Noir staples.

>>84827262
unironically a funny bit
>"quick! my glock!"
>"Ame we just passed through the primorial goop! how the fuck does-"
>BANG BANG BANG"
>"Kiara's ninth life designed this baby with my future self dude, this shit is made to last"

>>84813818
>AZki becoming a bimbo
oh nyo

>>84827262
Ame would never use a striker fired gun, it's some sort of external hammer 9mm like a SIG 226 or Walther P88. Beretta 92 is also acceptable.

>>84828101
fuck you
*gives her a bryco*

>>84827766
rather than a bimbo what if Azki is a researcher you meet and fall in love withwhile you two explore SCP nightmare landmarks

>>84819534
Orange women unite?!

>>84810230
Consensual morbid obesity death feederism with Okayun!
Making Okayun so fat she can no longer stand under her own power!
Stuffing Okayun so quickly she gets covered in stretch marks!
Setting up a systems of tubes and tanks so Okayun can relieve herself without having to get up from her sweat and sauce stained bed!
Training Okayun to only cum when she's on the verge of a heart attack!
Funneling so much slop into Okayun's mouth one day that her stomach ruptures and she passes away in bliss!
Consensual morbid obesity death feederism with Korosan!

>>84826858
Just what did Flare hope to accomplish with these posts?

>>84826607
One of her official outfits features a glock

>>84826607
For me, it's either it's an American Derringer Model 4 or a .38 Colt Detective Special.
In her casual outfit, it's a glock.
If she really wants someone dead, it's either a Colt Python, a Smith & Wesson Model 29, or the Ruger Super Redhawk with .454 Casull.

>>84828991
Elfoolery

>>84828991
She wants Noel to walk her around town naked on a leash

>>84828991
as funny as elf racism is i like the idea of a fic where you dare Flare to lie and be mean for a day and she's in constant physical pain because she's so nice
>"Mari..Marine! You...you look...YOU LOOK KINDA DUMB!"
>"huh?"
>Flare breaks into a sprint screaming "I CANT DO THIS"

>>84700922
After a wild night you wake up handcuffed to Flare,someone you never clicked with.
Will romance bloom as you two try and recreate the series of events that led to Marine being missing or will you two kill each other before you can find your friend

>>84700922
*Seinfield voice*

SO WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH EVIL WOMEN HUH?

No ENreco fics?

>>84833208
anything that wasnt gonathan or Erb's knight roleplay wasnt that good if we are being honest
that aside, most of the plotlines where kind of solved so you cant really build on them except for maybe Crackhead Mococo/Peasant the Bae fucking off from the plot to live in the forest

Altough you can borrow the idea of (YOU) losing your memories and then going in a journey with a chuuba to find them, only to realize you were in love with someone differentor another thing that throws a wrench in your new life

> finished fic last week
> still going over everything I wrote
> having to rewrite half of it in the process

>>84832790
They should step on my dick

>>84835104
Half? Shit, at least you only need to rewrite half!

>>84835774
Humorous, but my suffering is clearly greater than yours, and that is an undeniable fact.

>>84833718
>the idea of (YOU) losing your memories and then going in a journey with a chuuba to find them, only to realize you were in love with someone differentor another thing that throws a wrench in your new life
This just makes me imagine this coming after a big plot twist like
>Shiori never lost her memories
Or something like that where the foundations of your new life are seemingly built on a big lie since you fell in love with the one person that knew all along (but still went and reciprocated) while your 'real' lover still has their lost memories and is banging someone else.

>>84836259
I've really wanted to use the twist of the narrator actually being a character fucking with your head for years now amd the idea of like Shiori giving you fake memory flashbacks or something would be really cool

>>84836466
Voiceovarian/Zoken Matou ah idea

>>84832790
If only ERB was evil....
Corrupted knight Elizabeth using her power and royal authority to make (You) exclusively hers....

>>84813818
>Shiori accidentally spills the extracted yandere essence onto Bae and has to somehow catch her and also prevent clueless bimbo AZKi from doing anything stupid before anyone finds out or either of them get themselves into trouble

>>84837766
Lover-dovey sex with an evil Liz that has hypnotized you to turn you against your former lover and make you implicitly trust her!

>>84809238
>just at key points, like arriving at a new locale, screaming, singing at a concert, etc.?
I would go with this, it usually gets handwaved away anyways, and in a dialog heavy fic it's just going to get repetitive and obnoxious for both you and the reader if you keep having to describe how loud she is when talking normally.

I'll try to find some fics later. I think you need to emphasize how she's BIGGER and not just TALLER. This may seem like a semantic difference but at 30m tall, her physical presence is more than just "too tall to go into buildings and stuff", every aspect of her is larger and more impactful. When normal characters interact with her, they're less interacting with her and more interacting with a constituent part of her. For example, her thighs would be over 8 feet tall- if her legs are flat on the ground you wouldn't see over them. Her foot is over 15 feet long, her toes would be like a huge ladder step if you were to try and climb up her foot. The palm of her hand is almost 6 feet wide, if she picked someone up and held them in her hand, it'd be like they're lying on a large mattress. When they're taking her measurements, it's less "measuring Ao's inseam" and more "measuring the length of this huge leg that's taller than I am". That and other senses beyond visual- how would it feel to touch someone that huge? Probably very warm and soft. If she's walking, the displacement of air and the impact of her footfalls would probably knock you over simply being too close. Lots of rumbling and shaking from even the slightest movements for those close by. Her pointer finger would be longer than how tall every other character is.

>>84839638
What would be better, hypnosis, her manipulating court royale politics to force you to two to be wed, or her straight up raping you?

>>84842583
hypnosis would play on the relatively little-used flame hypnosis with her burning chest thing, so that's very cool
rape is kinda not the concept at all

>>84842797
I completely forgot about that, good point.

>>84842583
Genuinely depends on what angle you want to focus on and what kind of feeling you want to evoke in the characters.
For the sake of argument let's just say your 'true love' was Nerissa.
>Hypnosis
Mystery, memory loss, Nerissa (seemingly) getting full-cucked, maybe some elements of that 'Justice is racist' thing from last thread since it involves breaking up an "interracial" couple to set up a 'perfect relationship' between two humans.
>court politics
Intrigue, drama, presumably a revenge plot ala the Count of Monte Cristo.
By nature this is kind of set it up to have more drama and romantic angst.
>rape
ERB femdom woop woop.
I mean nothings stopping you from mixing and matching what you want. I can theoretically see all of this mixed together and kind of working.

>>84843084
>ERB hypnotizing you into being racist to break you up with Nerissa
>Doesn't work, you just go around saying she's "one of the good ones"
>Next scheme, using her proximity to the king to convince him you should marry her to strengthen aristocratic alliances
>Say "no thanks"
>Frustrated all her schemes thus far have been utter failiures, she just rapes the shit out of you and gets it done with

>>84843855
She could try to delegitimize the marriage by raping you between the ceremony and consummation.

>>84843084
I'd have ERB insert herself as a manipulator of the couple politically, and as the domme in the threesome.

gura spanking...

>>84847461
Will it be what you write?

>>84847552
Yep.

We need more Pippa fics. I'm going to write a Pippa fic and post it on AO3. Anything I should know about Pippa?

>>84848316
No.

>>84846857
>Liz mindbreaking Nerissa into an obedient pet.
>Sits on her like furniture while waiting for you to come home
>...
>Get shouted at by them over the phone wondering where you are
>Try to respond while getting the best head you've ever had

>>84833208
It's been like 2 days man

For you Ame writers dealing with her pocket watch, what limitations have you put on it, if any?

>>84833718
I thought ERB was trying way too hard honestly. No matter what she does she just can't seem to fit in with the others

>>84850782
that seems to be a you thing because she was fantastic with the constant inner monologue, her interactions with fuwamoco/nerissa/other "knights" and the whole miniplot of her loyalty culminating in "for JUSTICE!" was extremely fun

>>84850630
Not an Ame writer but for a protagonist level I'd have it just be time travel/timeline jumping no timestop or timeline manipulation since that's more of Kronii's domain.

>>84850630
i find time jumping to be really hackish so its either
>the watch does not work well and its a last resource. when using it ame jumps into a different point in time and space but does not control when or where she goes
or
>ame has to input the exact time she wants to travel, can only come back for 20 minutes or some shit

>>84850782
Sounds like a skill issue on your part. Liz's commitment to her role, the use of sound effects, and her overall presentation were easily the highlight of the entire event.

I grant you the permission to call me Ayame. Rejoice, human!

>>84852107
you dont have huge boobs like Kronii so fuck off

>>84846546
Rape the rock....
Rape the rock!!!

>>84848316
that she's a grifter

>>84853244
She's using your fic to get clout, anon! Fucking run! It's all over.

>>84850782
Well when 80% of your contemporaries are either not bothering or are RPing poorly, one might get that impression

>>84852107
Ok Yammers

>>84852107
I grant you permission to leave me the HELL alone because I'm not in the mood of playing 'pretend'.

Anyer with big boobs

>>84850630
What I did was that it is basically a Madoka Meguca-style soul gem, and Ame is essentially immortal as long as she has the watch with her. No watch, no Watson. It can also absorb the souls of other Ames in other timepieces from other timelines.

>>84857338

>>84857694
For her deception, Anya is kicked out and banned from the Pettan Pride Club

>>84858059
in solidarity for the flatties i shall have sex with anya until she learns her lesson

>>84857277
What would you rather play with her? Tetris?

>>84859697
Onigokko

>>84859697
Nah I'd rather play a game where both she and I are good at to determine who the winner / loser is.
Something like maybe... a board game or Mario Kart / Mario Party?

>>84861503
Oh and the loser get's punished sexually.

>>84837766
Hypnotized by mommy ERB....

>>84861803
And what is she gonna do if I lose? Stupid dumb oni probably can't think of anything

>>84862871
You have 3 options.

1.) Blowjobs but it stops before you even get the chance to cum.
2.) Handjobs but it stops before you even get the chance to cum.
3.) nonstop sex until you're on the brink of death.

>>84862976
On second thoughts:

1 / 2.) you're allowed to cum but it doesn't end. Post-orgasm torture and you're wrung dry even if your dick goes small and flaccid.

>>84862976
Number three, go big or go home, but only if she nurses you back to health after, only to do it again days later until you totally submit

Does Ayame have the lowest ratio of (fics / discussion)? I feel like every thread has people talking about Ayame fightsexual cute oni sex but it never really leads to anything

>>84864021
Before ars amatoria shion was the queen of "never gets a fic"
Now its a tossup between ayame and Strangely Shiori

>>84864021
I've been meaning to rectify this but all my ideas for Ayame require too much homework. Maybe I'll just do a simple magical girlfriend story.

>>84864021
Isn't the reason why Ayame doesn't get much fics is because everyone prefer's her rrat self?

>>84864710
If that is true then I pity /wg/ for living in such ignorance and sad mental darkness. The real Ayame is most adorable and lovable little goofball ever.

>>84864575
I think Shion has been dethroned by Shiori.
Shion has the trifecta of being the star in some one-shots, appearing as a side character in others and a series with her as the main girl.
Shiori meanwhile barely has any side character appearances and some greentexts.

>>84865032
While true theres also the fact that shion has Years of vantage compared to shiori and i remember a lot of shion talk before advent debuted.

But then again theres also Senchou who's been missing for a while, our dear patron AZki and surprisingly Irys whose last fic was the femboy one and she hasnt showed up as a main character ever since.

Bonus: the most ignored (in here) isnt even Iofi, its Kanade

>>84865453
You're forgetting about /wg/'s true forgotten princess: Fubuki

>>84865020
She needs to stream for people to like her lil bro

>>84866190
>lil bro
Shut the fuck up

But what if people wrote fics about the "underrepresented" chuubas they want to see?

>>84864710
No its because she isnt the most interesting member to write about unless you are a megafan.

"Oni fightsexual" is fine but its kind of shallow unless you commit to a series
"High stamina" is a wide subject and a lot of people fit it.
"Pun loving" the same as the first one.

Basically you are either determined to show her good points or you just look at her and go "heh, its fine"

>>84864021
I compensate for other WIPs being in the way of the next Ayame fic by talking about her. Not that much, but there's at least three Nakirigumi here and she has no general, so it adds up.

>>84866920
Ayame is basically a real life moe character, everyone dotes on her. "Oni fightsexual" or "high stamina" isn't a thing in regard to Ayame.

>>84867722
Those are the ideas floated here. "everyone dotes on her" isnt the most interesting idea ever and you have to accept some flanderization does ocurr on these threads.

Whenever ayame comes up those ideas are the ones people discuss.

HAVE SEX WITH YOUR SISTER!

>>84700922
Bullying nenechi, but she's so pure and stupid she thinks you're just joking, which in turn makes you feel like an asshole
Potential School-shooter & Girl who's in love with life romance begins!

HAVE SEX WITH YOUR AUNT!

>>84870381
>Potential School-shooter & Girl who's in love with life romance begins!
What if the protagonist was about to shoot up his school, but Nene saved everyone by giving him a kiss and a bj?

>>84870381
>Potential School-shooter & Girl who's in love with life romance begins!
'Bright, Bubbly, beautiful' and 'Dark, brooding, evil-looking' is my favourite relationship dynamic

HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AND WHOLESOME RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FOX WHO IS YOUR CHILDHOOD FRIEND, BEST FRIEND, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOUR GIRLFRIEND EVER SINCE YOU CONFESSED YOUR LOVE TO HER ON THE SCHOOL ROOFTOP JUST LIKE IN CLASSIC VISUAL NOVELS

>>84870307
NO!
...Not unless its either Fubuki, Polka or Mio.

HAVE SEX WITH YOUR DAUGHTER!

>>84871664
This, except it's two foxes (one white one black)

>>84871819
And Kurokami wins, right?

>>84871864
We all win! It's a beautiful triangle with me and two sisters who couldn't be apart anyway.

I'm a sex-haver at heart

>>84700922
Mococo continuously muttering corruption as you fuck the rest of Advent.

>>84864575
Is this in the archive yet? I haven't found it.
I was writing a shion fic but life happened. Still have the wip and add to it every now and then

>>84873743
If you mean 'ars amatoria' then yes its in the archive. You just need to scroll all the way down to the bottom and its the fifth one.
If not then please disregard this message.

>>84870307
>Your sister Suisei discovering your incest doujins hidden under your bed
>Suisei confronting you and calling you a freak and weirdo
>Suisei wearing skimpy clothes around the house the next day
>Suisei getting angry and jealous when you tell her you're going out on a date later
>Coming home that night to a half drunk Suisei wearing even less than before
>Telling her about how your date didn't work out
>Suisei getting happy and all touchy when you tell her about it
>Suisei telling you there's no reason you need a girlfriend when you have her

>>84874156
That doesn't sound very Suicoded if I'm being honest

>>84874459
It barely ever is. The creativity of the incest brainrot has been pretty pitiable lately. Everyone thinks it just writes itself to be like
>Chuuba is your sister, either obsessed with your junk, is tsun about it
>Lives in your house so access is simple
>Just decides to fuck you with little emotional hangup
Like if you aren't including the actual taboo and everything that entails, why bother trying for incest?

>>84874831
>Like if you aren't including the actual taboo and everything that entails, why bother trying for incest?
Because the taboo still exists in the reader's mind and it causes a reaction to see it broken anyway.

>>84874831
Half these ideas feel like they'd work better if it was "childhood friend that lives with you for some reason", we need a new trend, to spice things up.

>>84876925
Pretty subjective, isn't it? Authors set up their stories the way they did for a reason, usually.

>>84874831
What's a good incest story anyways?
Not just in /wg/ but in general.

>>84879670
I liked "It's Not Actually Incest" and "It's Incest" from the archive

>>84876925
Alright hear me out, now is the time for Momcest

casually racist ERB

>>84883348
having morals isn't racist anon. but this reminds me of that one idea an anon had where Shiori and Nerissa were nuns with holy womb tattoos that fucked spirits out of possessed men.
to add to it Either Elisabeth is a tier above them, so she gets called to fuck the particularly tough possessed, or she's just committed to her job to purge all evil with her pussy

>>84880560
Moomcest?
>Being raised by an strange owl woman who teaches you the evils of humanity

>>84700922
sex with Gonathan (gigi roleplay)

>>84874459
>>84880560
Mori momcest... the greatest fic I'll never write....

>>84883572
she has no morals

>>84885728
Away, smug rock child

>>84873738
Best post of the thread and I will now be feverishly masturbating about seeing her nipples since the bit of areola in that image is boner inducing.

>>84876925
>we need a new trend, to spice things up.
Something to spice things up...
>Suisei tours America
>Gets BLACKED

ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>84890379
(Suisei falls into a pit of hot tar, ruining her flesh by turning her into a monkey)

>>84890380
Baked. Migrate when ready.