/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>84331727
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

>快晴 / Kaisei (cover) *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7QcvdHk70
>青と夏 / Ao To Natsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnAk_ZGfvdw
>青のすみか / Ao no Sumika (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=efF_c9D-R-A
>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0
>奏 / Kanade (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw
>My Dearest (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>Utakata Maybe *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=-pfI25EsoRs
>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI
>カバー曲 / Cover Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR
>歌まとめ / All Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1

>>84336983
CC...

>>84336893
Its better value for me than a VN or game that is going to be collecting dust in my disk since I won't even have time to play them

>>84336253
When will Myth and the other people who have models made in 2020 get updates? Mori had to literally use a wish to upgrade her model, so it's going to be weird seeing her model be up to 2024 standards right next to the rest of Myth whose models were made in like 2020.

>>84335957
Subaru is... tyred

>>84336830
Hes one of #s pet monkey

>>84336893
>okay with
Wtf does this even mean? Its a multimedia project where the girls get to have fun. Why would anyone not be ok with it?

Why did holoEN drop in viewership by 21% in august? what explains this drop in viewers? How can we improve septembers CCV?

>>84337025
the only People who have gotten proper reworked are Pekora and FBK

>>84337070
Gura didn't stream in August

>>84337070
Debut month

>>84337070
They improve once you grow a braincell.

Well anons?

>>84337070
Breaking Dimensions and back to school.

Numbers should go up with ENReco events and more streams.

https://youtube.com/watch?t=12793&v=8ybUOw9NhMc
Holy fuck Raora's laugh is amazing

>>84337070
Use your brain and think what happened last august.

>>84337090
Anon, everyone up to gen 4 has received a 3.0 update

Ruze:" I could do whatever the fuck I want, am I going to?, NO, ......, I have not invited any of them yet, ......, do not bother them, don't engage them, don't ask in the chat or their memberships, ......, I'm not going to put them in a position where they are caught between like the rude gun or the uninteresting gun I wouldn't do it that no any Hololive Holostar period, if I had thought they might not have interest, or they would be in a position where it would be awkward to say no or say yes, but I will know if they are interest trough management or them so don't worry about it."
The quotation is a bit chopped up because he repeats himself a few times in what he says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlHPCE3UTJo 49:13

What's next after Minecraft RP?
GTA RP? Rust RP? Ark RP? HoloEarth RP?

>>84337143
>t and v out of order
AAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

HOWDY FELLOW MONEYED MINORITIES!

>>84337238
>caught between like the rude gun or the uninteresting gun
Why did he describe it like that?

>>84337238
There are like a million version of this quote

>>84337238
catbox. I ain't clicking on his channel.

>>84337256
I do that on purpose when I remember that it's possible

>>84337143
This entire exchange just reminds me of the classic Pink Panther hamburger scene

>>84337238
> the rude gun or the uninteresting gun
I can't believe he forgot to mention the most important gun

[Sad News]
Korekore is getting flamed on jp twitter right now due to one of his, now unpopular, program attracting negative reception. he's doing damage control on twitcast as of now.
Korekore fans are blaming nijifags for the flaming attempts due to yesterday's reporting

>>84337017
She just needs to grind some side quests instead of wasting her money on the color cannon.

>>84337238
Beggars cant stop begging kek.
At least we know no one in holo interested.

>>84337148
>>84337110
>>84337120
so even with new members, HoloEN still dropped by 21%??? Grim

>>84337070
>pic
kys /qa/nigger

>>84337305
I've seen many anons say this and...
do you retards not know about the existence of private windows?
or do you all use chrome where there's no difference between the two?

pls consider
learn to drop hate
invest in a smile
love will come
maybe you will like it

>>84337343
Are you retarded?

>>84337343
You failed to use your brain. Congrats.

>>84336983
The Horned Moneyd Cabal

>>84337238
>I could do whatever the fuck I want, am I going to?, NO
What does that even mean in that context?

>>84337329
>trash taking out another trash
good

>>84336888
Roboco is cute!

>>84337343
Would you prefer to be thought a dumbass or disingenuous?

>>84337257
>These options
Guess I'll stick with block game

>>84337238
What a fairly reasonable take and attempt to tardwrangle his chat + beggars

>>84337343
anon..

>>84337414
Yes

I think I found one of the few dozen ACTUAL homo watchers

>>84337406
He can go be a pest and ask holos to join whatever event/project this is but he won't

>>84337238
disgusting beggars

>>84337300

>>84337462
my bad, here is the picture

>>84337350
>newfag never been to /biz/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrF260keJQ4
Mogojyan..

>>84337343
>monke brain anon

Scarlet Wand is easily the best guild. Cerulean shills can go fuck themselves

>>84337464
Theyre all afraid after the RedJPHomos termination. Theyre already a little too close to the terminatio grave

>>84337518
I'm not indian

>>84337238
>when the homobeggars outbeg the homos

>>84337514
good, keep it that way

>>84337343
hello ennacuck how is the seethe going

let bro in

>>84337509

>>84337406
The opposite of hate marketing

>>84337514
Must be a lonesome existence

Apparently some members were asked by management not to mispronounce the name of the Kingdom, is there any significance here? is Libestal supposed to reference/hint something? a future plot point maybe?

Here's a very limited gold summary for the year so far. There are only two questions and competitions left worth asking in the gold race.
>will Pekora or Miko win the year?
>will Pekora or Miko beat Nijisanji's total gold count?
So far, Jan-Aug, it looks like this
>50 - Pekora
>49 - Nijisanji
>45 - Miko

If we judge Nijisanji on their last years performance we should se a couple of low(sub 5 gold) months coming up with December being their next "big" gold month. Both Pekora and Miko can do it assuming they have a good ending to the rest of the year.
Miko is currently on fire, and will probably catch up to both Niji and Pekora in this next coming month, she has a lot of hype surrounding her that also pushes the base line numbers up.
Pekora has been in a slump/chill mode now for a couple of months, maybe she can pick up steam a bit with summer being over, otherwise we'll probably see another 2-3 gold month for her this month. She is behind the pace she had last year, 57 gold, going into September which is no shock, but she is ahead of her performance from 2021, 45 gold, which is her second best year. This puts her in a theoretical 70 range by the end of the year, but in the end content and overlaps is what matters and Miko seems to have an edge in the current climate.

>>84337238
So they 100% were told to stay on their lane by management right

>>84337622
Fauna won so it's not going good for him I imagine.

>>84337659
Weren't they calling it the lesbian kingdom?

>>84337257
Mori really wanted the GTA RP badly
I recall her also finding the idea of MC TTRPGs cool and telling her fans she'd push for one, combined with the fact she seemingly compiled and gave the girls a full playlist of BGMs and had a custom intro for her first stream + her statement of wanting it be fun for all viewers + the ENReco song being tied to her channel makes me think she had a more major part in this becoming a thing than most people assume

>>84337659
they'll open the server to public after everything is done

>>84337343
Its actually 30% and totally unacceptable
you expect watch time to go up but the fact we aren't seeing that means holoEN failed to increase the box with new viewers and instead just spread the box they had thinner

>>84337238
Well I'll give respect for him for fighting the losing battle
You can try Ruze, but 99% of the people that would ask this question probably also won't be watching this stream to see the answer

>>84337671
Unlike tempiss, these homo wasn't told that they are "hololive"

>>84337667
What about Silver and Bronze?

>>84337659
because a bunch of them took it to calling it the lesbian kingdom

>>84337659
Management spent months to get this project off the ground including all the scripting only for all the holos 2 days in to call it lesbians and have polycule lesbian marriages

>>84337238
Finally someone telling his chat clearly to stop begging.

>>84337659
considering some were saying lesbians and some were saying liberals, it might've tipped off the "no politics" clause Cover tries to abide by

>>84337297
the Fuwamoco gun (rude) or the Gura gun (uninterested). I think that's what he means

>>84337030
Fire fire light the fire
You'll be onion
I'll be tire

>>84337238
I wonder how these homos feel when they try to extinguish the flames and filter the shitheads in their audience and people like red homo goes "I can do whatever I want because I am their coworker"

>>84337737
Managers should just accept it as it is. It really do be like that sometimes.

>>84337549
>40 minute "clip"

>>84337238
Reminds me of what blue homo said back when he debuted and people were trying to associate him with Gura
Except nowadays it's the entirety of EN (minus ERB and sometimes Bae) that want nothing to do with them instead of only half of the branch.

>>84337659
Nerissa and Kiara were going woke

>>84337712
>too dumb for /biz/

>>84337659
You will call it Lesbian Kingdom from now on

>>84337238
this is a Holostar I can at least respect. Unlike Jutard

>>84337238
Here is the link with the timestamp
https://www.youtube.com/live/PlHPCE3UTJo?t=2953

Here is a better formatted and more accurate transcript.
Seems like he is putting the foot and reigning in any potential homobeggar in his audience.

Here is the transcript
----- START OF TRANSCRIPT ----
>(reading superchat) Like Vesper, could you invite Hololive EN members?
>I could do whatever the fuck I want
>I mean, there is no one to tell me I can't
>Am I going to do it? No!
>Because I'm not putting them in a position where they're in a Catch-22 and either have to look rude and say "no" ...
>... or not have time to do it and still look rude because people will interpret as rude

>If they have an interest, they'll let me know, but, I'm leave it alone
>They can come to me if they have an interest in playing, and that's totally fine!

>Do NOT bother them! Do NOT ask them!
>Do NOT ask them in their chat!
>Do NOT ask them in their memberships!
>If they're interested in it, they will find out, don't worry about it.

>That is open for the future, I didn't invite any of them yet
>I only invited the Tempus boys and the ARMIS boys to keep it small to start out with
>But I'm not putting them into a position where they're caught between the "rude gun" or the "uninterested gun"
>I wouldn't do that to anyone, Hololive, Holostars, period!

----- END OF TRANSCRIPT ----

>>84337712
>off-topic images
>spouting nonsense because he can't read the text in the table
kill yourself threadshitter

I'm wondering if it is better to superchat or gift a mem on YT? What even is the incentive for a grey getting gifted a membership to stick around when membership doesn't skip ads? Have you personally ever been gifted a YT membership and had this be the reason you found a new vtuber to watch?

>>84337659
>>84337689
>>84337737
>>84337736
>>84337800
>>84337839
>>84337874
It's because Libestal is supposed to be LiveStar
StarsEN is probably going to have their own Reco event in the same server.
their lore and designs are literally built for it and management being what they are will try to incline the stars without the budget of building them a brand new server.

>>84337238
good

>>84337827
Please understand, green woman yaps A LOT

>>84337406
>What does that even mean in that context?
he means he can be the Red Dino retard or Vesper or Magni and do whatever he likes, but doesn't chose to

>>84337897
Better link.
https://youtu.be/PlHPCE3UTJo?t=2953

>>84337820
Somebody called?

>>84337910
Ironic homobegging is still homobegging.

>>84337659
Because they're deathly afraid of getting sued by Falcom for calling it Liberl. No, I will not take my meds.

>>84337910
>It's because Libestal is supposed to be LiveStar
It's not. The kana doesn't match that at all, shitnigger-kun.

>>84337462
>>84337514
He's not a stars fan, just a containment breaking retard.

>>84337238
What country is this faggot's flag from? i see a lot of retarded takes from people with that flag

>>84337712
phasenigger detected opinion rejected.
>>76239209

>>84337731
Silver
>47 - Miko
>43 - Pekora
>22 - Kuzuha

>Bronze
>40 - Pekora
>29 - Miko
>29 - Kuzuha

Is it just me or has Ame gotten more shy with time, not less?

>>84337238
Finally a based holostars?

>>84337659
Libestans = HoloLIVE stans
Stain = Antis

>>84337238
Those 2 are a shitstain that can't be removed, it's been a year and their beggars are still trying to force the shit they did.

>>84337968
Every
Time

>>84337951
>kana
Its an EN project retard

>>84337958
no, this is exactly what the homo fans are like

Too much retardation, post lolis.

>>84337968
Yeah i get around

>>84337897
sadly I doubt it will be a wake up call for homobeggars that their presence, begging or opinion on hololive x holosatars collabs is not welcomed...

>>84338050
(Me) did you know phase connect is on a decline? we selling phase stock

>>84337968
Jesus christ phaseniggers are so stupid.

>>84337974
>2024 is literally going to be image
lmao

https://x.com/TheDarkEnjoyer/status/1830260797731450980
of course the phaseshitter had to throw in Hololive mention in Nijisanji yab

>>84337961
I think it's some flavour of the fag flag.

>>84337659
Management hates lesbians

>>84337897
This is the only thing we want. Total segregation with no begging whatsoever. Based response

>>84338022
anon, even if it's an EN project most of their management is Japanese or speaks Japanese

>>84337897
It's obvious he has the invisible gun pointing at the back of his head.

>>84338189
Yeah. Mine.

>>84337897
Homobeggars will take this as him being afraid of the unicorn cabal and refusing to engage with the girls because he is scared. Over what is likely his real feelings of just wanting this to be a project and if the girls want in then it should be on them to ask first not him.

>>84337897
This guy definitely browses vt

>>84338189

>>84337671
>management
dude literally says there's no one to tell him he can't
there is no management

>>84337659
source?

>>84337897
I like how he emphasized at the start that they have no enforced no-interaction barriers like some beggars theorize
They just simply self segregate because that's what they WANT to do, and for some reason beggars cannot accept this

>>84338226
that just means the management is women

Since is dead hours v4mari is getting a new gen first girl is a gyaru hyena.

>>84337695
>Lore shit
>In fucking GTA

>>84337897
>>84338173
>Total segregation
That's the thing, he kept it open if any of the girls want in they can make him know

The only number i care about is my number 1

>>84338294
I don't mean as a part of ENReco necessarily, but as a different project of this kind

Can we get the squirmbeat back? I miss him, he is funny, other schizo are not

>I'm know to support male vtubers, even before luxiem, Yes male vtubers were considered a joke who can't break 20 viewers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKOCbdpCaAs

Miko was thankful her last MVs (which were released 10 days apart) were both growing well and have just hit 1M.
She added that it was very surprising considering they knew that MVs or Covers that are released in the same timeframe usually only have 1 of them doing well, while the other quickly become stagnant

>>84338291
post links.......

>>84337950
>what should we name our good guy kingdom
>Fucking name it "Liberals" or some shit I dunno
Falcom worldbuilding... peak...

>>84338353
I'll summon him
>OH BOY, I SURELY LOVE HOW FEMININZED MORI IS NOW!
>100% /OURGIRL/, CUTE AND SUBMISSIVE!

Did Pekora buried him?

>>84337897
>>84337238
One question anons. Were Tempus hated since day 1? or the fuckery just started after they tried integrating with HoloEN?

>>84338360
people like to pretend vesper didn't pull numbers
truth is the current selection of male vtubers just suck at their job

In all seriousness though, where in the fuck is announcement of Holostars being removed from Cover?

>>84338343
Yeah she can join VCR for that

>>84338444
soon

>>84338360
>Yes male vtubers were considered a joke who can't break 20 viewers
Funnily enough, male vtubers peaked with Kuzuha getting 1M subs in September 2021 and a series of 100k streams, golds in this thread tally and general high numbers which lasted until CCVID.
If much Luxiem was the time it started walking backwards

Why did she do it?

>>84338341
Her subs just ticked up again

>>84338444
eliminating a branch because theyre underperformers is a red flag by the way

>>84338403
When they were announced a lot of people went
>FUCK IT'S OVER IT'S RUINED
and left for a good long while, but there was a brief 2 week window where people gave them a chance here, mostly because they were paired against a new Nijisanji EN wave and this was just after NijiEN's all-time peak, and going
>"FUCKING KICK THEIR ASSES, YOU STARS FUCKERS"
was a fair horse race at the time.
Then "Popular Demand has decreed that we eliminate the collab ban time for da boiz" happened and that got thrown out the window pretty quick

>>84337040

>>84338403
Since announcement the community was furious, the notion of EN holostars was something so far from reality it was bizarre that it happened.
the fact there were only 2 EN gens made it worse.

ENigmatic Gale is cool and all but I want beep to finish Monke game while it's still hot...

>>84338444
You sound like a beggar

>>84337406
He can send an invite if he wants to, he can message a members manager and ask them for a collab. He can do that, but he wont do that because he isn't retarded like 99% of his audiance.

>>84338489
CN CN CN...

HoloPro Superchat Rankings for 2024 so far (up through August)

I actually didn't think anyone woulud pass FuwaMoco but, as chart anon calls it, "unrepeatable circumstances" have allowed for it to happen.
Though I suppose it's possible FuwaMoco (or someone else) could still pass Aqua by the end of the year.
She also brought up JP2's gen average significantly.

>>84337030
Gonna be giving some context about this for people so it can hit harder
Subaru wrote this song in an attemp to convince Aqua that she shouldn't graduate, that it's ok to feel kinda burn out and don't worry, Subaru will keep holding the line until they all (gen2) heal up and they can do stuff together, that she can dump everything on her, so please don't leave and let's have fun for a little longer
Aqua's response:
>Yeah... no.
Then subaru realizes she doesn't belong anywhere in terms of official units, she felt bad watching the Hololive gamers event and not being included as a main attraction there but as a guest
>I realized even if I spend most of the time with gamers I am not one of them (in terms of official unit and how management handles them)
She thought that her streaming everyday then her lazy gen would finally get pumped and start streaming more, start collabing more etc. She's finally had it, after all these years she accepted the fact that gen2 will forever be the less united gen, that she's on her own and gen2 might basically not exist anymore, now she's feeling sad and angry that she spent all those years trying to hold the line for people who didn't care about her in the first place.

>>84338235
Source is his ass because this seems to be the first mention of it anywhere and no one en is streaming right now.

>>84338403
They were hated by a small group initially while most were willing to give them a chance until dumb and dumber decided they were too good for Holostars and wanted every Holo girls lining up to collab with them

>>84338403
They were not hated on day one. They were in the same boat of the JP homos, tolerated from a distance by most, watched with curiosity by some and used as a blunt tool to bash iLuna from NijiEN.
Now, everything changed with the attempted "Nijification" coming from HoloEN brass AND with the homos inviting grifters like 39Daph into "the garden"

>>84338489
No it's not.
And it has nothing to do with their performance regardless. They are unwanted by the customer. That's all that matters.

>>84338403
People will tell you it was all astroturfed but lots of regulars and OC makers went off to join in with all the /MAG/ threads and "uncle nowa" was liked both here and on 2ch. It just all went predictably wrong as soon as they started interacting with the girls and the brotuber image was shattered

>>84338097
A decent probability. But winning both silver + gold category is pretty hard to achieve since it kind of requires a lot of double streaming, but miko has had a lot of gold and silver on the same day so definitely a possibility.

>>84337897
Damn this guy is actually a decent person

>>84338517
CN was closed because cover was put in a lose lose situation

>Aqua and Mel reincarnates in Re;Bon
>Cover acquires Re;Bon
How likely could this happen?

>>84337238
https://youtu.be/PlHPCE3UTJo?t=2952
how hard is it to put the timestamp along with the link?

>>84338550
Archive exists, give a single example of a genuine regular poster that wasn't astroturf

>>84337238
Why so scared to bother the girls?

>>84338378
proud of my miko

>>84338519
Is this based on current exchange rates? Pretty interesting chart, thanks for that.
Mel...
And I was gonna go more grim for ID, but they also use Streamlabs and shit, right?

>>84337238
Such a simple concept, yet it's impossible for homofags to comprehend.

>>84338534
TLDR:
>I TRIED SO HARD
>AND GOT SO FAR
>BUT IN THE END
>IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER

>>84338611
CHU!

>>84338519
I'm actually surprised both Okayu and Koyor is ahed of Chloe.
The change of direction paying off for fatto catto.

>>84338189

MIKO GOLD
MIKO SILVER
MIKO LEWDS
MIKO SEX

>>84338534
>wrote this song
its a cover anonchama

>>84338461
she prioritizes projects with the girls if they're made possible by management, VCR is her backup plan

>>84338550
Only last samurais called dumber "uncle nowa"

>Anycolor earnings report on 9/11

>>84338403
This thread will pretend otherwise, but it was a mixed bag. The announcement was met with a good amount of annoyance, primarily because people were wanting EN3, but most of the hatred didn't start until the shit with Ame and Kronii.

Tbh I know I am the minority here, but when Tempus dropped, I DID seriously hoped that they will make it, since if the homo can stand on their own, the need to leech the Holo will decrease, it’s a win-win situation for everyone

>>84338635
She changed so slowly it's almost like it was just natural and not intentional

>>84338624
Holy fuck you're actually right

>>84338474
He learnt the hard way that trust is dangerous in pekoland.

Now that the dust has settled
Verdict on EN Reco?

>>84338635
Is the Okayu schizo still around?
Seriously we have way too many schizo for individual Holo for no reason at all

>>84338700
We haven't passed halfway

>>84338676
You are the one that pretends otherwise. Everytime you're asked to provide any sort of evidence you ignore it.
Homostars were hated from day 1. It wasn't even effective atroturfing, you fags wrote and behaved like sisters.

>>84338700
destroys my sleep schedule but I enjoy it

>>84338534
Thats what I thought about her genmates
They really doesnt care
Shuba couldve been 1 of the 1st army if she just focus on herself

>>84338504
the way the perms work make it a bit awkward, for example Mori will have to play that shit in middle of the night to squeeze it after ENReco because she has to play it on specific days requested
that's gonna be a fairly severe number killer

>>84338403
They were hated from the start because people were expecting EN3, but instead got surprised butt fucked by Tempus. But Vesper and Magni were good (don't try to revise history faggots, especially Magging time), so people tuned in. The problem started after the Ame x Blue homo debacle, then followed up by Ame's response, then the train just continued to The Squad, to Kronii x Vesper, then Kronii's response, then Vesper being baited saying the Mysta ''I'll fuck your oshi'' or something like that, until it became clear that there is no unity between the two fanbases

>>84338534
subaru is essentially a solo act without being officially recognized as such
now watch as people still call gura lazy while turning a blind eye to shion, choco, and ayame lmao

Why is this man humblebragging?

>>84338673
AIIIEEEEEEEEE

>no shark frame
I'm not surprised, after her embarrassing CCV lately

it is the 2nd of September wake me up when it ends 2024 and Polka still has the best eyes in Hololive

>>84338763
>no proof

>>84337297
>Superchat to holo: PLEASE COLLAB WITH DA BOIZ THEY ARE ALSO HOLOLIVE
>Rude gun: FWMC treatment or outright saying something like "I don't care about them".
>Uninterested gun: Like Noel "yeah I wish good luck to them but I have no plans of interacting with them."
And lastly he basically described the invisible gun with "people will interpret it wrong either way."

>>84337238
https://youtu.be/PlHPCE3UTJo?t=2952
> uhhh, "like Vesper, could you invite Hololive EN members"
> I could do whatever the fuck I want, I mean no one's telling me I can't
> Am I going to?
> No, because I'm not putting them in a posiion where they get in a catch-22 and have to look rude saying "No" or uhhh not have time to do it and STILL look rude because people are gonna interpret it as rude
> If they have an interest, they'll let me know
> But, I'm gonna leave it alone. They can come to me if they have an interest in playing and that's totally fine.
> Do not bother them, do not engage them, do not ask them in their chat, do not ask them in their memberships.
> If they are interested, I will find out, don't worry about it.
> That is open for the future, I have not invited any of them yet, I only invited the Tempus boys and the Armis boys to keep it small to start out with.
> *repeat*
> I will know if they're interested, it will get to me through management or through them, it'll be fine.

>>84337329
Let them kill each other

>>84338479
Shorts + strong ENreco presence, huh

>>84338519
Doggos are too powerful

>>84338519
Mori being only 20kish from middle of the pack despite having SCs disabled for nearly 2 months is something to behold

>>84338763
>then Kronii's response
Peak GRIM

>>84338753
>>84338768
You guys are taking this way too seriously, Subaru have said it before, that her gen simply debuted into a different Hololive, a Hololive where everyone is on their own, and there’s no team or group, generations back then didn’t even have name

>>84338773
wouldn't you?

>>84338534
It sucks to not have a proper gen but she pretty much has 4 different groups she's in so who cares

>>84337238
I long for the day when these retards annoy him enough and make him go on a whole-ass
> I FUCKING HATE BEGGARS
rant

>>84338838
Youre an idiot, we do know that
The story is Shuba tried to unite Gen2 for years but her genmates themselves doesnt want to

>>84338519
what's up with id1

Homofans are mentally ill, the clips have nothing to do with homos or culture war topic fucking hell man

>>84338403
I remember it like this anon >>84338494 insane doomposting when they were first announced, and a brief window after a relatively positive reaction to vesper and magni where people thought they might not be so bad and gave them a chance, back into hatred when the collab ban ended and they went full steam holopro collabs.

>>84337238
>beggar has an alphabet flag
it's all so tiresome...

>>84337671
I think this is one of the rare occasions where this dude was unironically a terminally online dumbfuck with all sorts of "internet ideas" about "idol culture", lolis, weebs and the general fanbase.
He got an insane reality check during his debut, and he's been trying to course correct that damage ever since.

>>84338534
Yeah, I've got no pity for Subaru. Girl expected things to change in her life without doing anything herself.

Why are Homobeggars trying to make this FAG a goodFAG???
>Checks time
>EU time
NARUHODO

>>84338768
at the point you're being compared to those 3, you ARE lazy and disconnected
Gura wasn't even the first "Ayame of EN", she fought hard for the title

>>84338864
As I said, Subaru wants an official idol unit, she is only included as a guest, not as a main attraction and that's what pains her, I hope in the future management adds her to gamers since she's stupidly popular too

>>84338403
>Were Tempus hated since day 1?
Everyone knew it was coming eventually, so there was a lot of dread about how it was going to go. Some hated it. Quite a lot of anons here seemed to give them a chance at least, although it's hard to know how much of it was genuine or astroturfed. Likely a mix of both.
There were definitely some that were hopeful they would be "brotubers" a good counter example to luxiem and the fujobaiting and other things, that hope died pretty quickly though.
One thing that gets forgotten is there were a few anons in the know who warned that Vesper would turn out the way he did. Since he got the most benefit of the doubt for the first month, before things started to slip. They must feel pretty vindicated.

>>84338519
i always forget koyogod but she's also the only jp ive given money to

>>84338919
Im 100% sure thats another poorFAG

>>84338932
Anon, do you know how to read?

>>84338919
So that liana is saying that the holos would surely be ERPing with the homos if they had the oppurtunity

>>84338904
Did she though?

>>84338403
Opinions were mixed initially.
But suffice to say, it was the height of NijiEN tribalism, iLuna vs Tempus was the big thing going around, and JP homos hadn't openly outed themselves as homobeggars at that point.
So people were cautiously optimistic.

>>84338831
Yeah she was actually in 2nd place back in June
Still definitely has strong superchat numbers

>>84338519
graduate everybody below the Lui line

>>84338534
HoloTori is unironically her strongest group, isn't it, I never thought about it that way but now I understand why she was so excited to jump into that.

best pov to watch from red team?

>>84338403
Some people hated them on day 1, while others insisted on giving them a chance. After the collab drama started they lost most of their supporters here.

>>84338768
Chumbuds wish their oshi would stream as much as Ayame

>>84338932
>Girl expected things to change in her life without doing anything herself

>>84338763
For a brief moment I really had hope that they could've actually been successful, especially with Vesper's you live and die by your solo content and magni with the magging meme actually getting off the ground, I can't believe how hard they fucked it all up

>>84338920
It was two weeks of “maybe they’ll stick to their lane” and then the collab ban got cut short and “by popular demand!” from Mori

>>84338941
I'll put him in reverse probation for now, if he stays neutral then good, since holostars are mandatory for company diversity rules

>>84339011
Duh???
Can you stop talking to me now? My Cooldown is being wasted for a question that can be answered by "Captain Obvious"

>>84338957
Gamers is already well established and it's not going to go down as easily as councilrys into promise. She should push for SMOK to be an official unit

>>84338919
Crazy how one kiss has managed to turn every beggar against Shiori. I guess hate really is the opposite of Indifference.

>>84338919
>holoyuri
>yeah fucking unicorns
They are becoming Rider

>>84339021
>people

>>84338914
That's what happen when you purposely drive out any potential gachi for years.

New homo lore dropped?

>>84338956
caps locking ARE won't change the fact that gura has myth collabs and gen 2 doesn't lmao

>>84338403
It was met with mostly a
>not for >me but it was inevitable that cover tried going for holostars en, but it should be fine because SURELY they will follow the steps of their jp holostars senpais and not be a problem
Outsiders started shitting on them before debut early and a bunch of people defended them by referring to jp holostars and then they debuted
Some people (mostly unityfags) gave them a shake at the start (hence the giga buffed debut period) but once the preferential treatment they were getting started being apparent (paid songs and shit, shortened collab ban, game perms, twitter interactions, etc) and the hololive en branch started being neglected (NO fucking debuts for some fucking retarded reason, all the girls burning out, them clearly pushing the boys on every single opportunity including locking out the reddit on ames birthday because of some irrelevant shit about the homos) everyone started going from very-slight-positive-neutral opinion (aka idc what they are, i won't watch and they'll just stick in their corner anyway) to actual hatred (they are hurting the girls and shitting on the whole community just to try propping up these failures)
And then the homos kept fucking up, acting like victims when they were being given so much more than the girls, and purposely being antagonistic to entire fanbases for the "bit" (hate marketing sounds familiar to anyone? vesper did it first)

TLDR: Sort of met with an initial "not going to watch but i don't care about homostars, they've been well behaved so far so they're not going to interact with the girls anyway and cover knows what pays the bills" to "WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING ARE THEY RETARDED????? WE NEED TO TELL COVER TO STOP THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW"

>>84338519
>people always gang up on Pebbles and go "Oh, you're the poorfag fanbase that never pays up for their oshi, faggots"
>she's made almost $100,000 USD this year on spachas alone
So what the fuck was that all about

>>84338519
Huh I didn't actually notice at first but Ruze is doing significantly better than Bettel
perhaps that's influenced his statement he made, posted elsewhere in this thread

>>84339107
Theyre all poorFAGS afterall

>>84339109
I was around for the Vesper liveposting anon, yes "people" gave them a chance early on, it was very evident in the thread culture at the time as well.

>>84339023
she somehow passed Fauna on first ENReco epi despie having quarter the viewership, to the point she decided to disable them for future ENReco streams since she doesn't want people to send collab SCs anymore

>>84338957
>adds her to gamers
That will literally kill gen2 so its not gonna happen

>>84338773
The La Creatividad Prime will DesReUndoMakeConstructDefine the concept of video games and life with Death Stranding 2 and also pekora will be in the game

>>84339093
She never done anything for her gen except wait for them and I'm tired of people pretending that's not the case

>>84339155
I was around for it. "people" did not give them a chance. Your image is missing 200 replies of people saying "fuck off sister"

>>84339064
imagine that your only criticism of gura is that you can't get enough of her

>>84338588
>give a single example of a genuine regular poster that wasn't astroturf
Their thread anchorpost was made for them by global's comicanon back at the beginning, so there's one

>>84338403
EN fanbase was more open to giving them a chance then the JP counterpoint evident by their early numbers.
The integration, added with the perception that en management is propping homos on the expense of holos killed all goodwill.

>>84338700
I'm enjoying it. I just wish it started an hour or two earlier.

>>84338919
Who the Fuck types like This, what kind of Mental Illness do you have to Have to to do That

>>84339155
Anons back then still believe that they will stay on their lane
SURPRISE TO NOBODY, they want hologirls pussy

>>84339137
>he fell for ennakek falsefag

>>84338959
I think it helps to add that people could cope about them taking after jp stars, who then had a "better" reputatian then they do now. That was pre overlap rule, shinove was still there and aruran was less sexpesty.

I remember when they spammed a ton of magged sea memes along with frogposting recolors. You know which kind of vermin I'm talking about.

>>84337832
>people were trying to associate him with Gura
Were they? The guy came out swinging and saying WAH every 20 seconds, it wasn't Gura who had the problem.

>>84338914
Moona, Iofi, and Risu is not exactly a powerhouse in terms of anything

>>84339196
>>84339196
>global
>regular

JWU any ENreco sales updates?

>>84338920
It was fine when it was the holomems that we expected
The Bae collab was totally fine
The kronii collab had kinda mixed reactions, but was still mostly good vibes. But the goodwill was flipped when Kronii started making it weird and the schedule that had her first Mumei collab in a long time was in a week where she was collabing with Magni and Vesper so it made it seem like she was just using Mumei to appease her unicorns.

>>84338536
yeah that's what I've been thinking

>>84338763
> They were hated from the start because people were expecting EN3
That was homo Gen 2.
Tempus 1 came out barely a Year after Council debuts.

Just watched Shiori's Hologra, how come there's no HoloX in it?

>>84339174
Youre not in their communication line anon
This aint Bigbrother stream where you can see and hear most of the events happening

>>84338519
>ame and ina make below minimum wage

>>84339137
It was saplings shitposting

>>84338474
She dosent breed soft rabbits, only the most treacherous and tedious survive in pekoland.

>>84339272
they wanted to focus as much as possible on shiori

>>84338624
w-wow

>>84337562
If they're so good why aren't they in a lesbian marriage (other than Shiori)? Checkmate.

>WE HATE HOMOS /HERE/
>PERIOD

How long are you FAGS gonna prolong this timeloop?

>>84339227
To be fair to him he stopped saying Wah almost immediately because people were connecting him to Ina through that too
And people were trying to connect him with Gura early on yeah, especially after he started collabing with Kobo because (((HOLOBLUE)))

>>84339137
ranking of last con presence:
>biboo
>fwmc
>fauna
>mumei
>tokenmythshit
>bae
nobody else exists

>>84339182
I was also around for that and that was typically one or two posts replying to every single livepost, so it was pretty clearly an upset handful but not the majority.

>>84339228
Moona at least has her music, even though she fell from the earth streaming-wise.

>>84338755
wait Wukong has Fromsoft-like perms?

>>84339277
Neither are you, but here you are trying to paint a picture that's purely based on your own headcanon

>>84339137
Noone said that /here/
Wrong thread?

>>84338932
Faggot

>>84339357
Alright, go to the archive and show that

>>84338403
This is the only correct answer to your question.

They were hated since anons were expecting Advent, but they were unexpectedly good SOLO streamers, especially Vesper. Everything went downhill when the collab ban ended. If Vesper stayed into his own little bubble, he would've had averaged at least 2-3k to this day and probably be the top SC'd Homostar

>>84339382
>buy her membership to find out
Its pretty simple

>>84338403
The only correct answer to your question is the most simple one.
Answer: Yes.

>>84337562
Jade sword is better than both

>>84339184
there's a lot more going for that criticsm than just that
being disconnected from genmates, ghosting special projects if they're not management mandated, minimal communication with fanbase, unispired and sparse streams, the sneaky use of phrase filters at lower points - all that was the kind of stuff that invited similar amounts of shitposting on other members in the past and even currently (prime example: ERB, checking 3/5th of that list)

>>84338360
> before
kek he thinks it's better now roru rumao
https://files.catbox.moe/0om5k6.mp4

>>84339373
yes but they're much faster with replying

>>84339414
Actual correction:
>They were slightly hated since anons were expecting Advent. Everything went downhill when the collab ban ended. If they stayed into their own little bubble they would've been fine.
>and if they debuted advent in the correct frame of time as if tempus didn't debut 8or even moved it 2-3 months later) 90% of the drama would've disappeared

>>84339249
Kronii just went through the whole arc by stepping on all the landmines and went it wasn't me but you to her audience. Bae somehow escaping that entire arc without getting paired up with axel was funny because she actively avoided his shit but collabed with vesper and magni

>>84338444
5 more years anon.
Oidashibeya takes some time to rev up.

>>84339184
I mean, to be fair... she so cute I wanna see her more often

https://youtu.be/mx0C2jk3-kc

>>84339588
How he says "oshi" frustrates me

>>84337562
Dogshit jew guild that can't RP
Cerulean is where it's at
Literally building every arc right now

>>84338489
You reply is a legit Red Flag
>might aswell told us youre getting married after this

>>84338519
Fuwamokoyo strong

>>84338360
>his fanbase will come out to support him in droves
hmm, wheres this fanbase now i wonder?
>also
Who the fuck are these indies, everything about them is disgusting

Can your oshi play the flute?

>>84339396
While I went back to check, I did find this
>this is how Nijisanji EN panels used to look in the Summer of 2022
>and back then people were still at least going "Oh well that's not big compared to Holo" but comparing in terms of like 5-10% differences
What a different time

>>84338394
Stockholm syndrome keep spamming those Mori images. Is your own oshi even femenized? Cgdct cuck

>>84338588
I won't speak for this thread because I never came here before the grim era but takobro made OC in hlgg and he hopped over to mag and then /MANS/ That is one "genuine" poster for you.
Not going archive diving just for you to call everything I might dig up an astroturf.

I don't see why it's so important to some people to memoryhole the literal 2 weeks some people gave them a chance before getting burned. It happened, everyone hates them now, what does it matter?

>>84339620
man stfu. Your half-brown guild should eat pagpag

>>84339168
how do you kill a corpse?

>>84338904
I've been watching Aqua on-and-off for a while, the last couple of Gen 2 meetups (long before Aqua even thought seriously about graduation) were organized by Aqua.
Subaru had kinda thought that Gen 2 would always be going their own way individually, but Aqua's initiative and her return to streaming are what made her also inspired to try and push for Gen 2 unity and more exodia stuff.

I think it was a double whammy for Subaru because it was like being given hope where there was nothing and then having it being taken away. Not really Aqua's fault either since it's Subaru who had expectations and got motivated by herself and then got sad by herself.

>>84339454
>being disconnected from genmates
you mean gen2? kek
>ghosting special projects if they're not management mandated
you mean her projects that were killed by retarded management?
>minimal communication with fanbase
gura is socially inept yes but people still love her regardless
>unispired and sparse streams
uninspired is your opinion and claiming streams are sparse is just you not getting enough of her
>some retarded shit
ERB may or may not 3/5ths of a holo but what's sure is that you're only 3/5ths of an actual person you subhuman nigger

>>84339680
Women had no loyalty

>>84338768
Hey fuck you dont drag Choco into any of those people. Chocosen at least stream once a week.

>>84339705
Because I was there and it was obvious that no one liked them.
Why are you beggars and sisters so desperate to make people believe an astroturf from years ago?

>>84339219
>ennacuck
no it's another schizo this time

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>60,469: Miko (Hololive)
>48,526: Miko (Hololive)
>48,191: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>32,547: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,796: Chloe (Hololive)
>27,737: Toya (Nijisanji)
>26,208: Akina (Nijisanji)
>22,491: Bijou (Hololive)
>22,212: Ayame (Hololive)
>17,632: Fauna (Hololive)
>17,573: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,871: Gura (Hololive)
>15,438: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>15,247: Mio (Hololive)
>13,844: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,786: Hinano (VSPO)
>13,666: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,268: Luna (Hololive)
>12,029: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,889: Tsuna (VSPO)
>10,934: Sora (Hololive)
>10,586: Ririka (Hololive)
>10,528: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)

Gold and silver for Miko with the Voice game and Minecraft, with Kuzuha getting bronze

>>84339705
takobro had already been out of global for a while there and had been wandering thread to thread. I remember him being in /wah/, then sticking to Holofights for a long time, etc.
Think the guy's back in global now, actually

>>84338919
>"The girls should be able to collab with whoever they want, respect their choices!"
>Girls don't collab with males
>"Clearly they're being forced against it! There's no way they wouldn't want to collab with da bois!"
Brought to you by the same kind of people that love Muh Democracy (when they win).

>>84338920
If i'm being honest that's how it was for me
>felt like doom when they got announced
>thought magni and vesper were kinda interesting for the first few weeks and watched them, thought it might be ok
>all the drama started and they tried to integrate them into holoen and I came to dislike them very fast
I was willing to be OK with these guys and potentially even watch them sometimes if they weren't a threat to holoen, but unfortunately that's not how things went

>>84339272
Koyori has been pressuring the hologra team to be in the FuwaMoco episode instead.

how long is the waitlist for graduation in Nijisanji English?

>>84338768
I'll give you Ayame and Shion but
> Choco
really bro?

>>84339739
Cover should let MigoMioShuba do another sportsfest. Its the only legitimate group she have

Kanata...

>>84339829
They seem to be chewing one per month (as predicted) and considering TTT is reaching their debut month ...

>>84339829
Its monthly, if you cant wait, you have to do finana "Hiatus" till theres an open slot to properly leave

>>84339518
>what if
Remember this was Omega's EN. Advent debuting in 2022 would not be anything close to what we have now
The problem of EN3 vs Tempiss affected the initial reaction, but no matter what, the deal breaker was always going to be the collabs shoved down everyone's throats and the way EN management treated the homos compared to the girls

>>84339765
Selenfag IS ennacuck.

>>84339836
Migo's busy with sololive this year so she can't organize one...

>>84339769
MIKO GOLD WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MIKO SILVER ALSO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>84339763
>Because I was there and it was obvious that no one liked them.
Retarded larper. /vt/ was all in on memeing up Magni and largely responsible for positive reception he initially received. Lots of anons legit gave them a chance and stuck especially by Vesper when they started streaming - but it didn't last long.

>>84338542
They make more money than holo ID though,

>>84339836
>Cover should let
It's more of them wanting to do it and put the effort into it rather than Cover blocking it.

>>84339834
Shes was at Ksons livestream a few days ago

>>84339763
I didn't like them either, but there were definitely some gullible regulars that thought things would be fine. It was frustrating how they had to be dragged kicking and screaming into reality over the next few months.

>>84339913
Again, im not interested in your bullshit. The archive exists. Prove it.
/vt/ is irrelevant. This thread is the only one that matters.

>>84339758
>>84339834
gura works hard enough to pretend to show gen unity unlike choco is the point

>>84339531
Bae dodged most of the shit by keeping most of these collabs very individual
Mori would've been in similar spot, but the fact that she seemingly enabled Kronii to collab with them more (and even visited her irl during the worst storm) that gained her ire of a fanbase that already was compromised in part of the most schizo ex-deadbeats
Mori herself clearly wanted to uplift them, but not for some weird Nijification bs people cite (especially since she made a few digs at male vtuber scene near their debut), but cause she didn't want any HoloPro branch to experience what Myth did on debut

>>84339769
MIKO SEEEEEEEEXXXXXX

>>84339769
SAKURA MIKO IS OLD AND BUSTED AND BEING REPLACED BY A ROBOT!

fuwamoco carry rebellion

>>84339937
>there's a bug that turn the hats to white
how would the talens react?

>>84339937
>GaaoGura
>faunaceres
>Shopkeeper
THE POINTRIO

>>84339620
Keep those scissoring freaks away from my christian girls

>>84339769
I'll go with stinky

>>84337562
based

>>84339946

>>84339208
it's a typical sign of an ESL with german as a native language

>>84340011
I loved Aqua so much bros, it fucking hurts....

>>84339956
How about you prove that nobody liked them?
Other anons already posted several proofs but you're ignoring them.
You're like nijiniggers who spout stupid shit, demands proof when someone challenges their bullshit just to waste time of those people and proceeds to ignore proof anyway when it's provided.

>>84339620
It's just Kronii and GG and IRyS. Biboo barely talks and Ina.

I like all of them

>>84340073
>other anons already several proofs
>several proofs
no they didn't you brown skinned retard

>>84337562
amber bros?

>>84339769

>>84339961
Gen 2 as a whole do not have any unity.
They were pretty accustomed to that until Aqua and later Subaru tried to bridge them after seeing the big projects sankisei got, even without Rushia.
Rushia leaving only united sankisei further, but Aqua leaving might have left them in shambles now.

>>84339897
It's amazing how EN management snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. They had everything to have the homos be popular but had to throw holoEN in there anyway. Now they are inching ever closer to starsjp level.

>>84338624
goddamn its real. but also GODDAMNIT COVER MAKE MIKOSHUBAMIO AN OFFICIAL UNIT

I need lottery tickets

>>84339946
????
Baffling post.

>>84340085
>Biboo barely talks
Shes the one who keeps making fun of IRyS Fart Spell

>>84339272
>Brown Shiori didn’t have HoloX in hers
>Oreo Moom didn’t have HoloX in hers

>>84339769
https://files.catbox.moe/dovbak.webm

>>84340097
Go away nijinigger if you're not going to read the thread.

>>84339754
>waaah don't count, it's all management holding them back, she's just awkward
those are all arguments on the level of Ayame's IBS
girls who wish to work, reach to their fans, engage with Hololive as whole, do, even when struggling, that's just an observable thing and if people do not see that, their criticism is valid

>>84338959
The AMOUNT of shit Tempus could have dodged if they weren't launched when they were and if Omegay wasn't signaling in every way but the official 100% set in stone one that they were part of Hololive

Like imagine a bunch of homos post Advent, just minding their own business, with a clear "we are our separate thing, don't bother us about hololive or them about us" stance they made clear on debut? Night and day.

>>84340097
> RAFFIANS
> SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE
> WHY HAS NO ONE SHOWN ME THE EVIDENCE YET HAEH !?

>>84339769
>>84340012

>>84340085
watch streams clipfags

>>84338919
>nijizz
Kek, I'm stealing that one

>>84340159
Ctrl + f archive
where is the responses showing the archive?
How brown are you exactly?

>>84339272
Who cares about shilloX
She got Chammers, the main character of Hologra

>>84340162
You're not beating anon's initial allegation that the whole criticism you get for Gura is that "you can't get enough of her"

>>84340103
Anon... Amber... it's...

>>84339971
Oh you just made me remember notmori wtiting winner winner chicken dinner around that fucking statement from the holoen twitter Account.

>>84340175
It can't be overstated the extent to which Cover shot themselves in the foot by letting Omega try to smash these guys into HoloEN. An unimaginable blunder.

>>84339064
this and unironically, I'm at the point where I would sit back and take it if she also decided to pick up valorant

>>84339769
.

>>84337727
>Not told they're hololove
>Names his project HoloMarches