/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

myth/10

>>8418970
Honestly? Nijisanji EN is better.

I'm gonna deal with a certain individual of this group.

Kronii > Sana > Fauna > huge gap > Mumei > Baelz

It’s not even a question. They literally have boyfriends.

>>8418970
generic trash

I'm gonna stay away from vt before I start hating them for no legitimate reason/10

>>8418970
I'm thinking the vtuber bubble is well on its way to popping. Kronii was the only refreshing one for me.

>>8418970
Pretty good to be honest, I was prepared for much, much worse. Solid 8/10.

Like my myths
Like my councils
Like my Nijis
Like my indies
Hate antis
Hate tribalfags
Hate riggers

Glad i switched sides.
NijiEN is so much better for someone actually watch the streams

HoloEN1>NijiEN1>NijiEN2>>>>>HoloEN2
This is the absolute truth and you know it.

They seem alright nothing too special and I was hoping for at least one FPS/Action gamer

>>8419617
We've got a hipster here folks, acting like nobody ever watches the streams here to form an opinion on a vtuber. If you disagree with him, you're a poser in his eyes folks. Watch yourself because his opinions are so dangerous they cut like a box cutter.

I'll stick with watching JP

NijiEN Rejects? NijiEN Rejects.

Bad debuts, I'd give them 2 weeks or so.

So far: Kronii a bit forced, but overally best. Baelz is unwatchable right now. Owl might get good, too bad she can't collab with Ina for a month. Couldn't watch Sana live. Fauna good, but I'm a ASMR fag

>>8419481
based and enjoypilled

>doing multiple voices in a single song
This just reminds me of how much I miss Risu karaokes...

Out of the current 48 members, only Fauna and Mumei are probably in the top half for me. Kronii middle of the pack. Baelz and Sana a bit below her.

No downright bad members, but no revolutionary debuts either.

(For reference - Pekora, Korone, Watame, Rushia are my top tier, while I think girls like Marine, Kiara, Calli and Noel are very overrated)

pretty mediocre. Still too early to tell if I'll like any of them.

I am ambivalent.
Theres way too much investment in this whole "lore" thing they got going on.
They are for the most part a bit eh in terms of their tastes.
The designs are all way too busy.
And their personalities are just generic overall.

I get the feeling there's been a lot more curation and management involvement overall. So theres a lot less of the chaos that makes the original group so charming. Yes even Kiara.

>>8418970
Nature - cute voice, not quite Lamy 2.0 asmr could be fun
Space - brown, booba, fun, astronomy, best debut
Rat - high energy, cute, multilingual, will be fun to see her collab, fucking great singing, very entertaining, dat underwear
Helicopter - nice voice but boring, really dull debut, not interested. Overdone fate style is a huge turn-off
Owl - cute but dumb, liked her song, will probably watch her a bit if she draws

EN continues to be irrelevant.
The aussie was the best, followed by rrat, time, lamy and then owl.

Liked Mumei's stream topic ideas and Fauna's vibe, I'll keep an eye on them.
Didn't care much for the other ones.

I'll stick to NijiEN thanks

Sana will fill a niche.
Hakos has the most potential.
Kronii will either obsolete Mori or be rendered redundant because of her.
Fauna is pure cuckery.
Mumei is a blank slate.

They all seem very ”standard”, for lack of a better word. Cookie cutter and safe. Not terribly impressed. I liked Fauna’s yandere thing, but nothing else really stuck out, aside from Mumei’s atrocious rigging.

>>8419962
>nobody ever watches the streams here to form an opinion on a vtuber
That is 100% true. At best they leave streams in the background and pay attention to them maybe 10% of the time.

They weren't bad but it's also the first time an EN debut hasn't exceeded expectations. I think cover should have been able to do better with their position of total dominance.

I like cute barefoot girls and underboob

>>8420646
Yeah, the owl's song was nice. I'll definitely keep an eye on singing streams and future music/cover releases.

>>8418970
Mumei and Fauna are fucking boring.
ASMR isn't for me, Mumei has cool ideas but she's so uninspired that I'm not sure if the execution will be there.

Sana is very funny, I loved her debut and I know she'll stream some good games. Will watch Kronii every now and then.

In this order
>Hakos
>Kronii
>Mumei
>Fauna >Sona

>>8420772
>Kronii will either obsolete Mori
Why do people keep saying this, is it the deep voice? Mori has a set niche, just like Ina, those two will never be obsolete

So which ones are located in NA? I can't watch the aussie ones because of their terrible internet connections (to me)

>>8418970
Not even close to Holomyth and actually mogged by Selen and Pomu

>day 1
>already pretty clear that kronies are gonna be the most angry rabid fans
There be shitstorms a brewin

It was all pretty good. Owl was a bit bland and felt just onscript, but I think that was mostly her being awkward and it'll be something she likely overcome with time.

I feel dumb for ever thinking that HoloMyth were in danger, I'll put it that way. None of these girls have really "wowed" me - they all feel like random streamers pulled off the street, which the exception of Kronii I guess

>no gamers
Why???

EU Holo doko?

never gonna watch any of them again, back to nijisanji

>>8421378
Holomyth debuts are slimy garbage compared to this

Kronii>>Hakos>>Sana>>Ceres>>>>>>>Mumei
NijiEN>>HoloEN + IRyS>>>>>HoloEN2

>>8421389
I'm going to laugh if they become the new numerfags, she really didn't seem to have much going for her other than appealing to boomers that like bad english dubs in anime

>>8421614
Yeah, gen 2 had all the experience and backup from holomyth and this was the best they could come up with

>>8418970
>no gamers
>no cunny
>none of them are funny
wow.... good job cover....

>>8421748
Cope. At least Ina's got her art and Calli's got her music. Ame, Kiara, and Gura just became redundant.

>>8418970
EN1 left a better overall impression. There was no equal to Ride on Time or Ame's energy drink fueled scuffed to high hell debut. Maybe they will be better once they get streaming

Generic/10

Every single vtuber debut is terrible and you'll really only get an accurate assessment after a month.

>>8421614
HoloMyth had more to show for their debuts despite being less prepared.
Besides Kiara they all showed off their skills and sold themselves to the audience.
I still don't know what any of HoloEN2 are good for except Sana and Bae so those are the best 2 by default.

>>8418970
Not as good as I hoped, not as bad as it could've been. So decent first impressions, what matter is how they develop from here.

I was expecting Flores to make it into this gen. Now I'm worried she might end up falling into Niji EN3.

>>8418970
shit

>>8420739
Absolutely based

These are your post-debut numbers.
Now that the vtuber hype wave is basically over, do you see any of them getting to 1 mil within a year like Holomyth?

As usual the leaf is the best one.

Kronii is the best, Mumei is bad. Others are mediocre

>>8418970
Fauna: 9.50/10
Baelz: 8.75/10
Mumei: 7.75/10
Sana: 7.00/10
Kronii: 6.00/10

>>8422041
Agreed on this, those were moments that made me instantly love Gura and Ame (as well as Ame's terrible singing of Pururin). Gen 2 didn't really have an equivalent but they're not necessarily bad.

>>8418970
Hags just win every time, don't they?

>>8421389
Timebeats

>>8422114
Why worried? It's basically guaranteed.

I wonder what Sana's subs would have been had she revealed her artwork power level

>>8422130
>Sana still lagging behind
spacebros what the fuck happened to our debut comeback

>>8422114
Don't forget about whatever sony is doing! She could be the first REAL corpo vtuber

Can't top Dragon deez nuts nor HAHAHAHAHAHAHA IM A DRAGONA

Kronii shows great promise and I will follow her closely. I just hope she not the lazy kind. I also liked Fauna (ASMR) while I'm pretty neutral towards Sana despite loving chocolate girls. The spark was just missing.

Mumei was way too vanilla. Even more vanilla than Irys which I thought would be impossible. Definitely the biggest disappointment for me but a debut is a debut.

The rat can fuck off and jump off a cliff. Her voice is better than Kiara's but not by much. Such a shame since Cover clearly put the most effort into her.

>>8421272
americhama...

>>8421964
None of the HoloCouncil have the personality or even come close to the creativity Ame has. So she still has that

>>8422041
That's it? I have a feeling everyone is looking at the past through rose-colored glasses. The immediate response to holomyth debuts was extremely negative.

Inferior to gen 1. They seem like Nijisanji rejects

>>8421932
>none of them are funny
Sana has shitpost potential. Debut streams aren't exactly times of peak performance.

Ok doxxers please tell me who they are, I don't give a fuck about the "she has a boyfriend" bullshit, just tell me.

>>8422130
Within a year, I can see Kronii and maybe Baelz pulling it off. But Botan is safely on track on being the next Holo to hit 1m seeing as this five haven't gone flying out of the gates like Gura did.

>God tier:
Fauna, Ina
>Great tier:
Sana, Calli, Kronii
>Okay tier:
Mumei, Gura, Irys
>Dislike tier:
Rrat
>Never watched lmao tier:
Kiara, Ame

>>8421231
With her bringing up wanting to both improve at singing and mixing, I could see her gunning for Mori's position as "the one who can help actually finish music projects". Also, Calli was painfully awkward and trying to play it cool in her debut too. She'll establish her own niche soon, but the comparisons aren't baseless.

>>8422114
Just watch her, it's not like your skin will fall off for watching NijiEN.

>>8422444
Who cares? People that sub based on design don't even watch streams

>>8421389
This. I sense Tako levels of insufferable.

The Anti-ggers and Pro-Sana damage control faction ARE SO HARD at it right now i should probably just go enjoy a hard drink, and then come back in 2 days.

Let's be hones. Hololive peaked with Haachama.

>>8422531
For once I agree

>>8422672
>Fauna god tier
Okay cucklord lmao

>>8422114
I'm out of the loop besides Sana who are the others?

Time-Space are literally the only good ones.

>>8422543
I watched both generations debut and I enjoyed all of EN1 debuts they were so bad they looped back around to being good. EN2 feels very safe, all of them were fine but not really entertaining

>>8422719
I just hope she can fit into the Niji atmosphere and stay the fuck away from the fish is all...

>>8418970
Just purely debut wise?
Sana > Kronii > Hakos > Ceres = Mumei
Gonna withhold my judgement since i know debuts are a terrible indication of what they are actually like

>>8421964
Ame has creativity. "Ame in the AM" is literally going to be the next big thing in Hololive.
Kiara has the multi-lingual ability and high energy which makes her easy to work with the JP girls for crossovers.
Gura has the numbers. She literally doesn't have to innovate as she's the EN mascot now.

Fauna is bottom tier

Not bad but not good either. Just disappointing.

>>8418970
I don't believe I can render honest judgement until I see them play a game, or at least do something when they're not a bundle of nerves. And even then, time and progression may change my mind. For now, it is too early to tell.

>>8418970
They're what I thought NijiEN would be

>>8422931
you have to be a twitter psy-op.

for me the genius that pretend to be retarded

fauna > kronii > mumei > sana > hakos

t. yukimin

People are making really wild predictions about Kronii just because of her model and voice. But those qualities just make her tolerable, not entertaining. Everyone's hating on the rat but she actually carried her own debut stream all the way through.

>>8422961
I mean Gura could be toppled.
Problem is Gura is actually entertaining and her voice is pleasant to listen to.
So beating her is going to take something special.

Only Kronii

>>8422901
There is no "Niji atmosphere".
You have idols, retards, literal whores and autists and each with their own group friend. You're not forced to watch everyone for "unity".

I’ll fight anyone who dares to insult Fauna

I sold all my owlcoin and re-mortgaged my house to put everything into Kronii.
I also like the rat despite *holds up spork*
Owl and Fauna are just trash.
Sana might be good for a laugh and collabs.

Ok friends please tell me who they are, I don't give a fuck about the "she has a boyfriend" bullshit, just tell me.

>>8423213
Are you her bf?

kronii is best

>>8423146
This, I think rat was loud and reached annoying levels of cringe, but overall showed much more talent and drive to be a vtuber. Kronii is literally just voice and design carrying her.

>>8418970
Sana deserves more subs, I actually feel bad

>>8422821
I have zero romantic attraction to any hololive vtuber.

>>8423213
Fauna sucks

Also their first collab is soon. Thats gonna be their make or break moment really.

>>8419426
This desu senpai

>>8418970
I haven't watched vtubers in a while, and after watching these debuts I see no reason to go back to doing so. Hololive has become soulless

>>8418970
I liked Kronii, but didn't really care about anyone else.

Still have to watch Sana's debut.

>>8421389
>hate on kronii
>nobody cares
>hate harder

>>8419230
Finana, Petra, and Rosemi are all beneath EN2 by a fucking mile alone.

>>8418970
I like Kronii and Sana. Baelz is a little too much. Mumei and Ceres I will probably watch when there's nobody else on.

Kronii - sex
Rrat - entertaining
Sana - creative
Fauna - boring
Mumei - garbage

>>8418970
I’d smoke weed with them

my owl daughter...

>No one of them got Gura killer energy
I'm prepared for them to become like IRyS

>>8418970
Kronii > Mumei > Sana > Bae > Fauna

>>8419481
Smart decision

>>8419597
Simple as

I honestly thought that gen1’s success opened more opportunities for more talented and far greater entertainers than these bland whores. 2/10

>>8422041
This honestly. None of them had anything that made them stand out when all of EN1 had a gimmick
>Mori: Rapper/Wigger
>Kiara: Speaks JP
>Ina: Pro artist and comfy personality
>Gura: Cunny
>Ame: Most generic but super entertaining and creative

Now let's look at EN 2
>Sana: She has an aussie accent
>Ceres: ASMR, not bad but Lamy and Noel and 100 other kawaii ugu GFE chuubas exist
>Kronii: Her model has massive tits
>Mumei: ????
>Baelz: She's a fujo, could be fun but she also has Ollie's personality so that's a turn off. (and an aussie accent so there goes your unique trait Sana)

Overall they bring nothing to the table and so far aren't interesting enough as streamers to catch attention. I'll probably forget they exist in a few months and I don't see any of them reaching anywhere near Gen 1 numbers so what's even the point?

>>8418970
Disappointed. Half of them felt like I was watching the same person over and over again.
Not much personality, except for Sana.

But I wasn't thrilled by Irys either and she turned out fine. I will give them a couple of weeks, but I have the feeling Gen 1 really was the best they could get.

Sana was the biggest surprise for me. Expected to hate her, now I love her.

>>8418970
Better than most NijiEN, but still inferior to Pomu.

Fauna, Sana, kronii, mumei, and baelz for now. I can see baelz going higher if she cuts down on some of the zoomer energy.

>>8422672
Put gura in God Tier and then it’s Perfect

>"they bring nothing to the table"
Sana is an accomplished astrologer and clairvoyant. I am looking forward to her palm reading and divination streams.

>>8418970
Kronii has the strongest voice but I wonder how consistently she can keep it up. You could tell she was forcing a lower pitch during the live singing. Definitely won't maintain the mommydom facade since she gives in to chat so easily.
Rrat also seems to force her speaking voice which also makes it too loud. The "hee hee" laugh seems more like a nervous tic, but she laughs naturally sometimes. Definite zoomercore but at least she's not boring, and good singing.
Missed Sana and the other two were kinda sleep.

They have flaws but so do EN1
imo that's what makes it charming Myth turned out to be full of memorable personalities and not like the same other 1000 Vtubers that will fit you would consider "good"

>>8423404
Finana alone has more personality then all of them combined lmao

30 minutes left until council completely blows Holo "zero chemistry" Myth out of the water

>>8423854
Sana is basically a lifestyle magazine hippie.

>>8423898
stream reservation doko...

>>8422677
Kroni's live was worse than calli's during her debut though. She sounded good in the preview of her original but her live singing was really underwhelming. Almost koopa tier of singing

>>8423898
Not raising the bar that high huh?

>>8423898
>

>>8423854
Her live singing was kinda bad though desu. Wonder if she's taking vocal lessons

>>8423645
Mumei is just walmart version Ina right now. If her art isn't around to what ina can produce or she can't corner the takodachi market it's gonna be rough. She could pull an Ame though who was the weakest out of the gate, but really defined herself as time went on

>>8423982
I just want the uppity holoENiggers to be put in their place

>>8418970
I've yet to watch the middle or the one on the far right, but the other 3 seem pretty cool so far.

>>8418970
I didn't like it. I will continue watching Nijisanji EN, and the Hololive Trinity.

>>8418970
Kronii > Sana > Mumei > Fauna > Hakos

I watched till Fauna and had to leave. Did we get at least ONE hologamer?

>>8423863
>Fish braps in water
Retardanon: PeRSonalITY

>>8422672
>taste inverse to energy levels of streamer
I mean okay kinda dumb.

>>8423645
there literally aren't any EN asmr chuubas in hololive so the niche she's filling, at least within holo EN, was unfilled until her

>>8418970
the sequels are never as good as the originals.

>>8424285
Nope. They all seem to have Gura-tier gaming skills or worse.

>>8419426
this, big boobs reign supreme this gen

>>8424260
>>8420772
>>8421212
>>8419426
>>8420329
>this pile of shit is better than that pile of shit
ogey

NijiEN1 >> NijiEN2 > HoloEN2 >>>> HoloEN1

t. hololive fan since beginning of last year

>>8424373
Seething anon that his new toys are shit ahahahaha

>>8424494
For fuck sake. I'll guess will stick to the occasional gura singing stream and continue to watch JP. Can any of them actually sing?

>>8424382
My true oshi makes ina look like ollie.

>>8424592
falsefag troll
You don't watch nijisanji and/or a clipnig faggot

>>8424592
This is literally my exact feelings lol

>>8424620
My standards for singing are fairly low so I think they all sound good.

Meh

>>8418970
Kronii >>>> Fauna > Sana > Mumei > Baelz
Their debuts were all still much cleaner than EN1. Less memorable? Sure. But more polished and refined? Yes. The only thing I'm disappointed about is that no one in EN 2 seems to be able to sing, but I guess that's what Irys was hired for.

>>8424620
At least wait for their gameplay footage instead of believing a random anon.

Ayame>Gura>Ina>Ame>Mori>Kiara>Selen>IRyS>Baelz>Kronii>Sana>Fauna>Mumei

>>8418970
Completely subverted the expectations. Only Rat turned out to be what people expected.

>>8424592
Based. The fucking nerve of mythniggers to think they are above anything.

>>8424727
Sana and Fuana had bad singing voices to me. Gura is like the minimum bar and I like it cause she is cute.

>>8424802
>Gameplay footage
I mean from the games you play you can tell if they are a "gamer" or not. And the way they talk about the games they like.

>>8419481
/thread

Is mumei shachi?

i doubt the vtuber market will expand, i wonder how much they will cannibalize Holo EN1 in Sc

>>8421272
Please reply

>>8424943
Hopefully quite a bit

>>8418970
>Kronii is pure sex, also hag so extra points for that
>Fauna is an ASMR godddess, no contest
>Giantess is a comedic shitposter and puts effort, nice
>Hakos has a very good singing skill, hope she collabs with Suisei and Gura (imagine the Kino Karaoke possibilities)
>Munmei can improve if she exploits her gimmicks (history, simulators, rts?), other than that, her stream was very weird, her song will probably be a banger tho. Wait, did she forgot about that too?

https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Marica_Bellerose

>>8424713
Anon, my favourite English vtubers are Pomu and Rosemi. Everyone in HoloEN1 is pretty much trash, especially Calli and Gura, only Kiara is consistently good. However, Ame is decent too when she does creative streams.

You having a meltdown yet?

NijisanjiEN1 are natural entertainers while some of HoloEN1 aren't and basically all HoloEN2. NijisanjiEN2 is carried only by Selen.

>>8419230
NijiEN1 maybe, but definitely not EN2

>>8424922
So it seems. So it seems.

>>8425065
Not them but your taste is incredibly horrid.

>>8425001
you're a dumbass mate that's not how streaming fucking works

Overall, pretty great.
I come as a Mumeifag, I had good feeling for Kronii and Lamy (Midori) before the day had begun. All on the things that I hoped for was confirmed, the strategy/srpg bit is transferred onto Kronii, so it's still very good in my book.
Now about Hakos and Sana, I didn't had good feelings about her but that was just based on looks alone and guess what? They also gave me good impressions today too ; Sana with the Space stuff that will be likely to happen, Hakos being a gamer (apparently likes RPGs).
All seems to have good and entertaining personalities, so everyone has won for my case and I got a very good feel for Council.
9/10

>>8418970
They all mostly fit well into the current EN ecosystem and can carve out a niche for themselves. I am worried about Rat, her meme buff could deteriorate rapidly since the persona/design is a bit shock and awe. Nature will live or die based on demand for ASMR.

I'm not impressed but honestly it takes at least five streams per girl to see if they're good or not and have anything to offer. I don't expect much from debuts or base my opinion on them.

It did kill time until Rosemi started streaming.

I liked them all but I’m pretty surprised about the /vt/ obsession with kronii? like she had 30 minutes of dead air, cringed really hard toward the end, and didn’t even plug the owl girl following her up.

Here's my ranking

1. Fauna- That surprise asmr 10/10
2. Kronii-That voice so eargasm all the way
3. Sana- The creativity
4 Hakoz- The Energy
5. Mumei- I slept watching her through her stream

>>8424943
>shorting this chart

>>8425270
? The two aussie ones that I watched (Sana and Rat) had a TON of lag. Other anons in the general thread were complaining about it too

>>8424773
You did watch Kronii right? Her singing was fine, Baelz wasn't bad either

>>8425378
Fateniggers shilling her because of the artist. You can easily tell by the abhorrent samefaggotry.

Mumei - 9/10 another Ina but plays city building games instead of drawing streams. Just like Ina will only cater to patricians of fine taste.
Kronii - 5/10 Mori without the vsinger buff, might be too weak since she lacks that niche, but she may have a hidden talent we haven't seen yet.
Sana - 4/10 weaker Kiara
Fauna - 7/10 Yandere angle is interesting, looking forward to seeing what else she has to offer though.
Hakos - 10/10 Gura that isn't as lazy and has skills outside of rhythm games and singing. Might actually become a Gura killer if her accent and oversized chest doesn't drag her global appeal too much.

>>8425378
The last bit was weak but you could brush-off as she being nervous and forgetting, overall she has a nice thing going on and plenty of room to correct her mistakes.

>>8424878
>Gura is like the minimum bar and I like it cause she is cute.
That's a pretty high bar, anon

>>8425427
>yt streaming is p2p
dude...

>>8425378
All because was nervous, which was adorable.

>>8425564
That is why I said the only EN streams I watch are Gura singing.

>>8425378
I don't get it either, her stream was the worst for me, really dull, not much talent, and being Mori 2.0 is a massive turn-off. I honestly expect it to be fatefag board tourists simping hard for her.

>>8425523
There was no indication that mumei had any interest in that kind of game though

>>8425574
No one said anything about p2p, but you do realize that the streamer uploads their footage to a "local" server that redistributes to the viewers, right?

>>8422130
>actual literal racism towards the dark skin
this is actually kinda funny

>>8425378
theres actually alot going on with her character she already revealed
the narcissism, psychological issues, some anti social tendancies, the way she treats her audience like she doesnt want to be there
hags like her, marine, and korone simply have alot of depth to give

>>8419426
Kronii > Sana > huge gap > Baelz > Mumei > Fauna

>>8418970
I want to date Kronii...

>>8425757
that's not a problem on your end then

>>8419426
Kronii>Baelz/Mumei(tie)>gap>Sana>HUGE GAP>Fauna

>>8425523
Flip Fauna and Sana and I agree
Good taste regardless

>>8418970
They seem dull but so did HoloEN1 and half of the NijiENs on debut. So I'll give them another week or so before I reach any verdict and drop any. And then I'll give the ones I dropped another chance 1-2 months from now because they might have improved a lot by then.

>>8425741
Literally said so in her stream

>>8421231
>Kronii will either obsolete Mori
>Not wanting to hear original song co-written by Mori and Kronii
>Not wanting to hear Kronii and Calli doing Karaoke with Calli doing the rap parts and Kronii the support singer
WEAK

>>8425741
Did you close your eyes and put it on mute?

Very disappointing, aside from Kronii
Sana - Australian
Fauna - phony
Mumei - boring
Hakos - Ollie

>>8421272
that's not how youtube works ya little faggot

fix YOUR internet

>>8422543
gura hard carried with her meme power and JP got floored by calli's rap. ame was a cringey mind fuck that made people uncertain but all it took was one ground pound joke to sky rocket her. ina was mostly bland, and kiara was by far the worst with her shit mic, shit design, and generally annoying voice

NijiEN > Baelz > Mumei > Sana > Fauna > Kronii

I hope Kronii can get Mumei into map painting games, then the hopium will be complete

Over all a solid 8/10, Sana was fun but will take getting used to. Kronii was a sleeper hit for me. Only point against Mumei for me was the forced cute but that should go away. Rat wasn't as cringe as expected, I hope coding theme actually goes somewhere and she hacks the planet.

The only one I was really disappointed in was green lamy.

4chan is being dumb but I'd post scorecard if I could. In short Mumei > Kronii = Rrat > Sana >>> Green Lamy

>>8418970
KevinSorboDissappointedShout.gif

>>8425924
What are you even talking about? The location of the local server that they are uploading to matters
>>8426154
My internet was just fine, I was literally watching other streams at the same time and they didn't lag at all. And like I said, other anons in the general thread were complaining about the stuttering as well

>>8418970
confirmed bf already takes them to the bottom of the list.

>>8425506
You must be deaf then faggot. I love Kronii but her singing was atrocious and Baelz was just as bad.

>>8418970
Rat should be pretty entertaining once she drops the over the top chaos shtick.

>>8418970
They’re pretty fine. Not on EN1 level (yet) obviously, but that’s because Myth is full of super humans.

>>8426201
Anons are being absolutely stupid, they are forgetting that Mumei is asking for advice on this new journey and they could therefore recommend her the games through chat or supachat and she will probably save 1 or 2 titles to then ask management for permissions, they can still get their Hopium, not right now but IT IS STILL POSSIBLE to achieve it.

>>8422738
>KFP false flagging again
tiresome

i’m surely in the minority here but I thought that the owl’s amnesia bit was cute and funny

>>8422130
If they keep pace with the previous Cover release, IRyS, then they'll take a year to get 1 million.

>>8426504
True. Starting with 4X might be a hard sell but something like rimworld might work

>>8426731
Would've been funnier if she hadn't said it 50 times in an hour

>>8426302
baelz was the best singing of the day and kroni was up there too

>>8423344
Why do people think the 1st week even matters? Myth:
>every debut was cringe especially Ame
>first full coll was awkward as fuck, like it was their first time even speaking to each other
>Gura's whole first week was a trainwreck, to the point it seemed like she might actually graduate out of embarrassment

I unsubscribed from all of them. I'll check in again in a month to see if they get better but most of them seem like they're going to be boring and I can't fucking stand watching noisy hyperactive retards like Ollie and the rat. Shachi might be okay if I'm having trouble falling asleep but that's it.

>>8426987
Thats kind of the point.
The trainwreck humanised them and forced them to develop.
These girls? Well groomed and prepared. They're unlikely to really find their feet any time soon as a result.

What are the rrats on past lives?

Sana: Pleasantly surprised, not BIG on her design but she has a mix of many things, her dork slider is just on the right place and funny jokes for a debut, burguers want everything to be about THEM but as a non-burguer I found her accent charming.
>8.5/10

Fauna: When I first heard her voice, my heart skipped a beat, I think it would fit a loli more than a mommy but by the end of the stream my brain was already tricking me into thinking that her voice was a perfect fit, carving her niche for ASMR is a good choice, not everybody needs to be a jack of all trades, overall positive about her even if I don't know if I'm going to check her non-ASMR streams yet.
>8/10

Kronii: Great voice but in a completely different way from Fauna, her demeanor is the edgiest one but it's good to balance out the overall vibe of the group, she did plenty of fanservice on pure momentum of the situation but like she said I'm not expecting that to be her main thing, last 15 minutes were weird but I think she has plenty of room to grow.
>9.5./10

Mumei: Kinda disappointed, by the end of the stream I still couldn't pinpoint what is her appeal, I don't want to be an anti though so I'll check her future streams and general threads, I want to be 100% certain that she's not for me before dismissing her.
>6.5/10

Hakos: At first I had a hard time balancing if I loved her or hated her, but then it clicked to love, chaotic but the good vibes type, her energy is contagious, so even if my mind said "no" at first, my body decided the final "yes".
>9/10

Can't wait for collabs and all the future combos between EN1 and EN2.

>>8426302
It wasn't anything amazing but it certainly wasn't Sana or Fauna level

I'm feel like I'm most likely to watch Mumei cause I liked Shachi, and Fauna cause her voice is pretty.
If Kronii is actually Seru (seems pretty close to me) I might end up liking her, but I was pretty underwhelmed with her debut.
I might watch Sana only if she does cosmology streams, otherwise I'll probably stay away from her.
Rat is fittingly garbage tier to me.

I just want a comfy streamer and maybe some karaoke, if Mumei has streams similar to Shachi's whale picture streams I'll be pretty happy.

>>8426992
Hyperactive? What are you a Ina fan?

>>8418970
JWU and missed the streams.
Did orcschizo made it in?

first collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9QhFeGw60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9QhFeGw60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9QhFeGw60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9QhFeGw60

>>8427395
Oh no. They're leaning even more into the lore thing.

>>8427395
Strewth. The green ones gonna be political I know it and cringe mainstream normie politics

>>8427395
Thanks fren.

>>8418970
>debut streams overnight
>stay up late to get a glance
>Sana debut
>godawful accent
>dropped it all and went to sleep

>>8427809
meds

>>8427353
Yeah, I'm a huge Ina fan if I'm having trouble dozing off. Thankfully things can fall between either extreme. Sorry I can't stand your spastic new oshi and her grating mouse bitch voice, buddy.

>>8427395
Wow, zero chemistry, just as expected!

BADDA BING BADDA BOOM BABAY

>>8427949
Fuck, imagine being one of those poor bastards who stayed up all night to catch it all.

does Kronii even fucking want to be here? she's as bored as she is fucking boring

>>8421272
The >>8423213
She's boring and she won't be able do that sleepy voice that long

So how are idolniggers going to justify sperging about a vtuber that has never implied they would do GFE?

the cutest avatar is the most apathetic, just another Calliope

>>8418970
Voice: Kronii > Fauna > Mumei > rat > Sana
Design: Kronii > Mumei > rat > Sana >>>>>>>>>> Fauna

in conclusion, Time wins the competition. Nature will just become background white noise, ill stare at fanart for the rest.

>>8428324
I'd give them a chance to get warmed up.
Buuut they've been talking to each other and the other EN girls for weeks apparently. So you'd think some efforts would have been made

>>8428391
She's painful to watch, imagine defending this

she is going to be my number two oshi!

>>8419458
And you'll never have a girlfriend :^)

>>8428549
gotta recognize that niji en has better interactions

>>8428391
She's channeling Mori energy, its part of the appeal.

space
-decent debut
-seems very sweet

nature
-most hyped going in
-pretty good debut but yandere angle
feels forced
-looking forward to asmr

kronii
-sleeper hit
-voice is sex

mumei
-cute debut, bit boring tho

chaos
-kinda like ame debut in that she's too reliant on the character

all of these things don't actually matter because debuts are inherently very awkward and cringe

Which ones are dating again? I wanna know who to unsub

>>8428570
the only thing you can defend is her deep voice and nice model, so far she's shown zero personality lol

>>8427395
>HoloMyth chemistry will get mogged you just watch!
L M A O
M
A
O

>>8428830
>channeling Mori energy, its part of the appeal
yes she is another Mori, but there is nothing good to be an imitation

I remember the first Holo EN collab feeling just as awkward as this one, I'm not in a hurry for them to get comfortable.

this is very painful. Mumei is literally too recharded to hold a conversation. I thought her debut was as awkward as she could get, but now in the context of the others, it's clear she's even worse

>>8429137
Yeah with time they'll get to know each other better and their interactions will stop being awkward!
Oh wait.

>>8429137
>them to get comfortable
Holo EN remained always uncomfortable

this collab is lame, when are they gonna play minecraft?

>>8428727
Well thats not hard. Niji is basically a mob.

>>8428549
u expect way too much from a generation of women brainwashed with marxist propaganda

>>8429137
Then why did both Niji En first collabs were pure KINO

God, just let Sana and the rat do their own wacky collab and quarantine the other three to awkwardly try to undermine each other with snark and dismissive silence.

>>8418970
So far Sana > Kronii > RRAT > Fauna > Owl
The rrats about Mumei and Fauna having boyfriends automatically puts them at rock bottom of the gen.

>>8427809
are you retarded

Breh, these chicks have none of the charm or perfect synergy as HoloEN 1.

Hololive struck absolute fucking GOLD with Gura, Amelia, Ina, Kiara, and Mori.

So all this talk of cubes.
Did anyone ever think to remember murdercube?
Ave Nex Alea

They're obviously hiding their power levels. I'm a bit disappointed but I'm willing to give them a chance because we dont know what they are fully capable yet

but seriously why no pettan?

How long until they get tired of all this lore shit and start breaking character all the time?

I give them two weeks

>>8421231
>ina fills a niche
because chill streams are very rare. Very difficult to do.

Mumei's retardation is growing on me

I'm just waiting for the dox that shows that they're all SJWs or fujoshits tbqh. If they don't speak broken English, they really aren't worth watching.

Kronii is 100% fake character cover corp has created on a drawing board from scratch up. They realized there is a completely unsupplied demand for popular femdom vtubers. They couldn't find anyone who would be natural at the role because those women are rare. So they found a good enough actress to play the role. That explains the different voice and why her previous role had small viewerbase.

>>8430251
Can't someone just tell Cover to drop that awful deepest lore shit and just give us different flavors of anime girls

>>8422861
Yeah, that's probably the most accurate way to describe it... With EN1 I still remember some of the memorable moments of their debuts, but I feel like I've already forgotten what I saw in EN2 debuts.

>>8430426
I think Covers decided to do an experiment.
How far can you push the character before the consumer rejects it?
If they bite enough then they'll probably start pushing shit like a tie in manga. Maybe one day an anime.

TIME CUBE THEORY PROVEN TRUE

OH FUCK IT'S HAPPENING

i feel lik im watching at 0.5x speed

Guys. Spam Ave Nex Alea
Make the management panic

>>8428891
Owl is one

Debuts were objectively better than EN1, very professional. And that's the problem: they lacked soul.

>>8430756
Does anyone outside of old-ish /k/ even know what this is

>>8430900
The managers watching it will google it and freak out when they get directed to the /k/ wiki

>>8428891
all of them
literally all of en aside from gura and iyrs

SNNNOOORRREEEE

>>8428891
all the holos are dating or married

>>8431243
Nah apparently there's one 3 confirmed dating from this new gen

>>8428537
Nah, Kronii's hair looks absolutely retarded, like a dumb nigger cockroach, the big clock helicopter shit looks ridiculous
Mumei looks bald from the side and literally has the Rhombus curse
Both of them are Sana tier garbage

Fauna or Rat looks the best and you're clearly just retarded

>>8431635
people already figured out their identities?

>>8431680
Rat design is a mess, which fits with her chaos.

>>8431925
I agree, even if she looks like a clown it's fitting in the least

>>8431921
Yeah, long time ago, I just can't open the archives for some reason so that's why I'm asking

>>8431243
How do you know gura and irys aren't gargling cocks off stream?

>>8431921
i need to know which ones are whores

jk they all are, because theyre WOMEN

>>8432130
they definitely are
just not dating

>>8423142
did you get the symbol backwards?
Those are greater than symbols

>>8426159
>ina was mostly bland
Still is

ZZZZZZZZZZZ

>>8432442
Still has more viewers than your dumb oshi

>>8431921

>>8432442
Is this why her current numbers are only behind Gura?

>>8432618
Twapi has more views

>>8432734
Not my fault that weebs are retards with shit taste.

>>8423854
she has the best microphone.
her voice is terrible

>>8431680
Clock's hair chains and dumbass hat are such overdesigned trash. Even so her personality and voice was ok until she started running the dumb soundbite checklist while doing a terrible job at being a tsundere.

Green ranger is showing her collab power, I was a little worried since she was so soft spoken. I can see her getting drowned out in more chaotic kiara/ollie collabs though.

>>8432908
>disliking both the sea creatures
holy shit taste

>>8432710
Which ones are SJWs?

I love this cute retarded owl

>>8432908
Speak only for yourself nigger

>>8433031
They're women anon, so all of them.

>>8431680
>>8432917
This

>>8420634
Definitely feeling the lore might be too heavy handed. They're going to mostly drop it (besides using it for aesthetics and casual references) so I feel like it's just limiting them at this point. I'm curious to see what they'll be like in 2 months just chilling and playing games, but for now I'm very underwhelmed with their baseline stats and personalities. I also find it curious that they hired three artists for one gen and is having the best one not mention her art at all in her debut. EN 1 was very balanced in terms of skills (one language expert, one singer, one artist, one musician, and one typical streamer) and EN 2 seems much less so.

>>8432442
Ina is fairly bland seeming.
But she maintains a great relationship with her community and is very chill.

>>8432917
why are SEAniggers so desperate to hear ARA ARA and HI HONEY 1,000 times

>>8433380
My gut says no. They're going to push it harder. Like was said earlier cover is testing the waters for "lore heavy" vtubers and will probably do a manga based on them later.

>>8433393
Poor countries with good internet generate cancerous internet culture because poor people are shit.

>>8433393
yeah it's so fucking annoying i want to strangle the next seanigger i see with that shit

>>8433393
Half of Kronii's stream was literally just that because all she did was pander to SEAnigs instead of ignoring them

>>8423030
sooo until you see them play m*necraft (for their first time)? and deal with antis until they open membership? it might take even longer for their personalities to bear fruit with THIS much precedent, anon...

>>8432710
cant find namie

>>8433031
If they weren't SJWs they wouldn't be vtubers in the first place.

>>8431680
How did ya know? Calling fauna's design good is a stretch and a half. Kronii might be wacky with her hair due to FGO curse but its the most unique out of the bunch without being way too extra like rat (or if you need examples outside of en2, Polka and Ollie)

>>8428851
This.
Give them a month before passing judgment. However you won't, because you're all spastic zoomers.

>>8423863
>being le random zoomer normie is a personality

>>8432710
Which ones are dating

They all have the energy of a dead fish except for rat, but she's barely alive. Selen should have been here instead

>>8434637
ADHD nigger

Launching with merch?
Fucks sake.

>merch on day 1
Holy shit that's a bad take.

i remember i remember i remember i remember i remember i remember

>>8418970
Fauna: Not into ASMR or GFE so I'm not the target audience. Very cute voice, but I don't think it fits her model.

Sana: Looks to be like the quirky, goofy one. Her stream ideas seem like they are kinda trying too hard to be on theme, but I'll have to watch them before judging. Might be cool.

Hakos: We want the zoomer audience.

Kronii: I liked her the best, but she was way too nervous. Would like to see what she does after the initial anxiety passes.

Mumei: Also very cute, and I thought she had the best singing. However, I don't see how she'll stand out yet.

I'm starting to wonder if they picked the girls based on the potential lore they could have as a team instead of the skills that could make them stand out in the vtuber sea.

>>8435398
Purely on subcount of their previous accounts.

art by Sana

Announcing another streamer in your debut collab?
Oh fuck me.

>>8433555
>will probably do a manga based on them later
Seems like it'd be tough to make a story with stakes when all your characters are literal gods unless you're making some sort of "gods try to be human" SoL. They'd fit better as cameo characters for HoloMyth, who you could easily turn into a manga or anime.

>>8418970
>Sana
Better than expected, she's full of confidence and actually seems to know shit about astronomy instead of it just being surface level kayfabe
She draws well
>Nature girl
Forgettable, she has a very good voice but that's really all the got going for herself, I guess AMSR fans will be happy
> Kronii
Biggest surprise to me and clearly above the rest, she's high spec, bilingual, great and unique voice and likely to have voice acting experience. Good powerlevel and a lot of nice tastes far from entry level. Can even play up the dom lines.
>Mumei
Cute voice and like the design, but her debut was pretty boring and she seems autistic
>Rrat
I had too much expectations I guess, she felt far too much like just Ollie 2.0 and I can't stand Olllie style, that random zoomer sonsense humor just don't happel to me. She's however good at singing and seems to be able to lead a collab.
Overall it's fine, gotta see how they trasition to their real personality in a few months.

>>8418970
Faggots in here want to put up expectations of them on their debut. Remember, gen 1 was a major event, and the hype was unreal. After holomyth, English vtubers came out of the woodwork seeing the cash cow that came with it.

HoloCouncil will be good. Their initial cringe and shyness will be shed, and they will be fine. We are getting too ahead of ourselves.

Sixth Ranger?

>>8418970
Boring
Cringe
Cute underdog
Great model but much worse performance than before
Snoozefest

>>8436232
What the hell is this? Is this supposed to be a glimpse into EN3?

>>8435912
Turning holomyth into a manga would be hard.
Could be done but they've not been set up with any kind of story.

And honestly do you think an idol agency can write a good story? I can totally see some idiot being hired to write it and churning out some sonichu tier garbage.
Considering Rats excitement over itall wouldn't be shocked if they wrote it.

in which 6th ranger mogs all the others

I enjoyed the scuffed disaster, this is what all debut collabs should be

>>8436558
I could see a story about HoloCouncil or HoloMyth being amazing if they managed to get their hands on a good writer and a good artist. Chances of them actually seeking out goods ones instead of hiring dumbasses who have connections to the talents/employees are very low though. The first guy they got to make the HoloAlt manga (before he sperged out or whatever) had mediocre art and it was baffling that they chose him in the first place when there are a million god-tier artists churning out Holo fanart for free everyday.

>>8436084
What I've been saying. Any OG /jp/ will remember how we all had sentiments about the EN1 upon debut. This too shall pass

>>8437132
A mystery story surrounding holocouncil. A group of absurdly powerful beings trying to pin down some shadowy manipulator could be pretty good.

>>8423404
You can add Pomu to that as well. Only the dragons are interesting.

>>8433555
I sure hope that doesn't happen, but I sure hoped I'd have a normal 2020 too. If anything, this debut has taught me to appreciate the time with only the Myth girls 'cause that was a miracle that ain't happening again

>>8436232
The fabled first tranny.

>>8425378
Your oshi is going to fall in love with her deep voice and stand-offish attitude. Enjoy knowing that there is nothing you can do about it, cuck.

>>8430378
decent rrat, have a (You).

Page10

>>8421272
I think Kronii might be Korean
not sure about owl, Fauna sounds like your best bet

>>8422444
She's got a black avatar. I don't think you realize how big of a debuff that is. People don't want to look at something ugly and the sub numbers show that.