/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

nvm, figured out how to play music sources in OBS through to my headphones. advanced filters > enable monitor.

>tfw character design artist is churning out really good designs
I may be able to vtube soon

>>8383609
share artist? ive been looking for someone that actually works with you back and forth but msot people i find are fairly amateurish in that regard and send you a sketch or two before finishing

>>8384664
>I want my design within 24 hours
>also I want the artist to stop drawing every 5 minutes to show me progress

>>8384664
if you're gonna micromanage like that just draw the fucking thing yourself

>>8384664
The artist is from this thread, oddly enough.
I'm sure if you were to ask here, they, or another artist, may try and pick you up.

if you don't have at least 30k subs on youtube, don't bother auditioning. you're ngmi.

>>8383056
Thanks, that's helpful

>>8390043
>>8390586
I think he means in terms of revisioning the sketches but I think you're supposed to provide as many references as possible so it's only done in 1-2 sketches anyways before finalizing it

how to join Hololive
>be rich
>pay for high quality model
>pay for high quality rigging
>just stream for 6 months
>buy influencers to advertise you
>get picked up by Hololive because you have 30k subs on youtube after paying shills
never had a chance. the game was rigged from the start.

>>8398216
I seriously don't see why anyone cares about them at this point.
EN1 was bad, but I can excuse that as them trying to hire talents without thinking of streaming ability.
Iris was fucking terrible.
EN2 sounds cringe as fuck from the debuts.

>>8398216
For all the talk about talent scouting, so far most of them fail to impress compared to most indies I've watched.

EN2 is cringe.

>>8401842
pretty sure EN has a completely different management than JP since EN1 got established. they're probably not talent scouting, but rather looking for existing talents who have established viewer bases. it's a cheap and easy way to bring eyeballs and subs to your debut if they've already got 30k subs on their indie vtuber account.

>>8402156
That's retarded for a number of reasons, first and foremost is that there's no need for cheap and easy eyeballs, they already have a huge fanbase solely by being holos.
Considering you're not supposed to tell people you're in hololive its not like there's a giant free advertisement for them either, just hearsay after the fact.

I'm pretty sure cover is just being retarded like always.

>>8402955
>first and foremost is that there's no need for cheap and easy eyeballs, they already have a huge fanbase solely by being holos.
you wouldn't take an easy guaranteed 1k extra viewers?

>Considering you're not supposed to tell people you're in hololive its not like there's a giant free advertisement for them either, just hearsay after the fact.
imagine actually believing this will stop people from finding out and sharing the information through word of mouth.

>>8398216
Clock was a literal 20 viewer nobody in a dying org. Your point is moot.

>>8404422
>1k extra viewers
I'd rather have someone talented who can hold new viewers rather than someone who's viewers probably already would be watching the debut in the first place.
>imagine it stopping it
point being its minimal, you're not getting that much bang for you buck here. there's no reason to stoop down and take people who suck at streaming just because they have numbers.

>>8390043
>>8390586
I'm not saying I want shit overnight or that I want them to stop every 5 minutes. I want different options and sketches for the design based on the information given, that's literally how real character designers work. Why do you think so many concept art sheets for some characters vary so much? i don't just want "hey here's my references" and to just get a sketch back that i can have tweaked a little bit and just have to accept because t hey have 20 other comms they have to get to, I'd like a dialogue with the artist.

>>8404676
>Clock was a literal 20 viewer nobody in a dying org
are you just making shit up?
>50k views on vods
>40k subs
>2m total views
>making over $1.5k per month just off patreon

>>8406217
You got the wrong one, that person isn't her unless she was tweeting during her debut.

>finana was a vtweeter and got into nijiEN
>clock was a literal who and got into holoEN
cope levels off the charts today in /asp/

>>8406588
I'd say Fina was just exceptional, she almost made it into Holo and had a pretty decent following but the seal making it in was wild

>>8405762
>that's literally how real character designers work.
then go fucking commission one of those "real character designers" instead of looking for a hobbyist artist from twitter or discord.
>I'd like a dialogue with the artist.
unless you're an actual company head, no one cares. bet your budget is under 4 digits too.

>>8405762
actual concept art designers are on a salary / getting paid hourly so they don't need to worry about getting something done in a set time period.
commissions aren't, every extra minute they waste on your drawing is an extra minute they could be doing someone else's.

how a comission should work is
>hey artist I want X, here's a reference sheet, here's what i want it posed like, here's a few details not included but i want on there
>okay anon here's a sketch, is this what you're looking for? is anything missing?
>no
>okay here's the finished piece, i can do minor modifications if needed
>okay change that to yellow
>here you go
>business concluded.

there is not a constant back and forth because you're not paying them hourly. at most for commissions you should expect a sketch image for approval, then maybe a lineart/base color image to make sure its what you expected, then the final product. that's all.

>>8398216
>>8401842
>>8402156
Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes. People watch the holos for a reason, yes it's true they're gonna get 100k subs right off the bat, but you know what happens to channels if the youtube algorthem sees that you have a lot of subs but literally no viewers? You're practically gonna get shadow banned.

You're delusional if you think a 2 viewer indie can maintain a viwership compared to someone like mori or gura.

>>8407186
>unless you're an actual company head, no one cares. bet your budget is under 4 digits too.
That's not even true, the people I've found are just full for a ridiculous amount of time. And it isn't under 4 digits

>>8407982
why the fuck you here on /vt/ then? you think industry professionals are just chilling here with open commissions waiting to be micromanaged by some karen tier anon?

>>8405762
So you like want to get into a discord call with the artist and work on the designs together? I've done that before. Just talk to them about it beforehand and see if that's something they'd like to do.

You'll probably have to scout for a lesser known artist, go to an anime or video game anime sub on reddit and search for OC art and find an artist from there.

>>8407982
>It isn't under 4 digits
Holy fuck what are you commissioning exactly?

>>8408339
waiting to be micromanaged by some karen tier anon?

Do you actually think working with an artist on a character design is micromanaging? It's how character design works.

>>8409187
>It's how character design works.
why are you talking about something when you clearly have no idea how it actually works?

>>8409934
Not him but from what I gather the dude just wants/needs to get into a discord stream with the artist and communicate the designs in real time, which isn't unreasonable.

>>8410216
From his initial post he wants consistent "back and forth", which no artist is going to let you sit behind them the entire they're drawing constantly giving backseat criticism.

>>8409934
>>8409934
So a character design job is just a customer sending some references, getting a sketch, and applying minor modifications to it? You really believe that?

>>8410216
Being in a discord call isn't what i mean at all. I have a backdrop designed by an artist and they sent me multiple sketches of different angles/room compositions that were all to the specifications and references, and I chose one of them that they then finished. That's how most jobs like this work when it isn't just paying someone 200 bucks on deviantart.

>>8410750
>So a character design job is just a customer sending some references, getting a sketch, and applying minor modifications to it? You really believe that?
You're comparing an entire industry team to an individual artist. "Actual character design" works by having a lead art designer who is himself an artist, draft out an entire plan for the style and art direction they want to go, this overarching idea is approved by the directors. This is then given to your rank and file art designers who design things based around that art direction, when they're done they show it to the lead artist who gives it the yes or no, or further advises them on what to fix.
The individual character designers have their leeway in how they design things as long as it fits the overall theme the lead art director set at the start, while they don't have the final say they have autonomy is the designs.

If you're referring to smaller scale character design its usually just
>hey yo we need some shit that looks like X
>nice portfolio, draw us X
>cool thanks. heres $1000
>slaps it on a slot machine and calls it a day

>>8410710
So let me get this straight
>You send references
>They send you a bunch of sketches based on the references
>You pick one you like and finalize based off that

That just sounds like a regular fucking commission process lol. I'm really confused as to what you're trying to do here. Can you elaborate more cause I'm confused right now.

Also a 4 digit budget, jesus, I can find quality artists who will do a full body drawing for 40-55 USD. At that budget you better be commissioning some studio Ghibli shit.

>>8410710
I guess I just don't know what the hell he means by "back and forth". If he means revisioning sketches that's fine, most artists will let you change the sketch about 3 times before they start charging a fee to change it more.

>>8412510
Literally no artist I know nor am friends with would draw a full body for 50... But then again they're all making a living from art and not hobbyists/students. My friends who have made live2d models don't charge below 4 digits.

>>8411835
>>So a character design job is just a customer sending some references, getting a sketch, and applying minor modifications to it? You really believe that?
this is standard.
you provide the artist with enough references and material because you have done the reseaerch and know what you want to get. the provide you with a sketch to confirm. you make changes. then the artist renders.

you don't micromanage the artist. they're not going to jump into a discord call with you and share screen while you analyze every single line they sketch out. the fuck is wrong you?

>>8417698
Whaaa, are you kidding me? 40-55 USD is like, the standard price for a full body 2d png pic. Of course, if it's a live 2d model, then yeah 4 digits sounds about right, I knew this vtuber in peru, she would sell a full body, fully rigged quality live 2d model for 900 USD, and that was in peru so the price was lower then if it would've been if it was in the usa or japan.

But back to the point, it's really easy to find a artist at the 40-50 dollar price range, just scout on twitter and reddit and even fiverr and you'll find plenty quality ones. As much as I hate to say it, art is a buyers market, as in there's a lot of artists selling art, but not a lot of buyers.
I do agree that if they're doing it full time they either have to charge more or pump out those commisions way faster. The artists I work with just do it as a side thing and/or are not very known.

>>8418624
shut the actual fuck up already about this micromanaging discord call shit. I'm talking something like this, where actual contact is maintained and multiple sketches are sent back instead of just one single sketch that you make modifications to.

https://imgur.com/a/Lw2t2Ez

Something like this. I've already said I've found artist who do it so this isn't some magical outlier, they're just backed up to hell.

>>8419838
So you paid 1000 dollars for 5 rough sketches? The quality in that image is quite low but I think you're getting scammed.
Can you like elaborate on what you mean by "actual contact is maintained ". Like the artist is just posting his sketches when he's done or do you want him to constantly ask questions or something

>>8419241
40-55 is garbage tier artist anon.
A full body animu girl is easily 100-200 by any decent artist.

>>8421435
100-200 is studio quality stuff, I agree, but I would never say 40-55 is garbage.
40-55 USD is like 7/10 or 8/10 stuff
100-200 USD is 10/10, studio quality stuff

>>8421919
Bro. That's like deviantart tier.
You might get lucky and find some 3rd worlder desperate for money but even they usually charge near 100.

>>8422127
PFF no fucking way. I agree there are some delusional artists who charge 40 euros for MS Paint shit, but I'm telling you, I'm telling the truth.
Look at this, I LITERALLY just searched up "commissions open" on twitter and found this guy doing full body commissions for 40 USD
Is this studio quality stuff? Probably not, but is this good enough for your personal projects? Absolutely.

>9 IPs
>45 posts
sure looks like schizo hours today, boys

>>8422659
Literally DA tier bro...
You can't even see the bulge in her pants.

>>8423028
Well damn show me some girls with bulges in their pants then.

>>8423027
dont worry they will stop fighting over artist prices soon

>>8424161
I’ll still take this over the rest of the board right now…

>>8424671
Bro show me girls with bulges in their pants

How much would an L2D like this cost?

>>8424780
2k+

>>8424780
500-1000 dollars

>>8424671
well? >we're waiting
>>8424780
with how crappy the deformations look on the hair, you could probably get some like that done for $100 - 200 off the Live2D community server. but that range of movement would require it to be a separate animation, and not something you'd be able to use face tracking on.

Anyone auditioning to Prism? Which theme are you going for and why not Arabian Nights?

>>8419241
Maybe my circle is skewed since everyone makes bank from drawing whatever they want that they hate taking commissions unless it's for something more famous than them, or the commissioner says price is no object. The time spend on one commission is not worth the pay compared to stuff like Patreon or merch for the good artists. Everyone I know hates nitpicky commissioners/people who want a bunch of options and edits. We still get loads of commission/waitlist requests despite our prices (at least a few hundred for a bust shot, and higher from there). The price you're talking about is probably from artists who aren't doing it full time nor have NA/EU cost of living so they charge low prices because they don't need it to make rent/profit. Artists I know all only take commercial rate commissions which costs way more than personal commissions.

Sorry don't mean to derail the thread. Just hopped in as it's interesting to see different perspectives as someone who doesn't venture out of my artist circles.

>>8426789
Nah no need to apologize, the whole reason I come to these threads is for discussions/insights like yours. As someone who's constantly working with artists these sorts of things fascinates me Your case is really weird though, you make it come off like your circle hates drawing.

Prices for a commission depends on a lot of factors, namely the skill level of the artist, the popularity of the artist and the artists location. As you said, if you live in a country like Russia where a good salary is 500 USD a month then yeah the artist is gonna be inclined to charge a lot less for their work, a lot of studios actually outsource their art from russia or indonesia because of this.
Meanwhile I have seen a very famous content creator open emergency commissions and charged 200 USD for just a rough sketch and that was filled almost instantly. Your circle sounds like you have all three requirements met though, as in you guys live in a high rent area, you're fairly well known and you have mad skills, if that's the case then of course you SHOULD charge hundreds of dollars for a full body.

I think my point still stands though, that is to say, it's really not hard to find a quality artist for around the 40-55 USD range per full body. Why they charge that amount is generally because I believe they're lesser known, like under 1000 followers on twitter, so the idea is to charge less initially and then when you have more requests and are popular you can eventually charge to the point where you can do it full time instead of just a side gig. Depending on how long it takes for the artist to complete, even the 50 USD range can be minimum wage

As for commercial and personal commissions, it depends, most artists I talk too really don't give a shit if you want to have the copyright to the drawings, since you're the one paying for it in the first place but I have seen others who will charge extra to do so. Unless it wasn't copyright you're talking about.

>>8430356
How do you go about looking for a full body at that price? I'm learning rigging by myself but im poor at art so finding one at that price wouldnt be a bad idea for me to work on.

>>8431112
Well, as I mentioned here >>8422659 you can literally search up "Commissions open" on twitter and see what pops up. Fiverr is also great but you have to wade through a lot of trash.
However, the BEST way to find a quality artist is to go to a sub reddit (yeah yeah I know) of a very anime-centric video game and sort by original content, you'll find a lot of cool artists that way. They'll usually have a link to their twitter or discord there but you can also contact them on reddit directly, simply just ask them if they do commissions and you can take it from there.

Make sure you do a simple background check though, check their post history and skim through their twitter, make sure they're not batshit insane.

>>8431945
Aren't insane people the best artists? That's what my art history courses tried to teach me I think.

>>8432768
Trust me, you don't wanna deal with an artist who's really prone to drama among other things, no matter how good they are. If you get the impression just from looking at their social medias that they're not gonna be pleasant to work with you gotta look somewhere else.

>>8430356
It's not that they hate drawing... Love for art is nice until you can't even move out of your parents home nor save up for retirement. Drawing for commission isn't really considered fun for many... we just don't talk about it publicly. Afterall you're drawing what your customer wants, not what you want. It's like programming for a company vs programming for a fun game between friends. Depending on the artist skill level and experience, a full body png might take 2 hours or it might take 2 days. Add in vague, nitpicky or micromanaging customer (I've had all 3), it's not fun. If an artist had the choice wouldn't they want to leave more time to draw what they want/live life vs drawing commissions for a client to make rent?

Of course I wasn't saying there are no artists with affordable pricing and skills that meet the needs of many. I wasn't clear but I was more replying to the whole buyers market comment. When you're below a certain level of fame or skill, it's definitely a buyers market. Artists there price themselves low to get work. Above a certain point it's the sellers market. People willing to wait almost half a year to pay hundreds and thousands for something another artist may charge less than 100 for. Some even depend on a famous artist to boost their initial fame as a vtuber. If that's something of concern, then looking for open commissions usually wont cut it. Same reason people hunt, wait and apply for a chance at a good rigger.

Asian artists do have cheaper rates than NA/EU for the same quality so Skeb is a popular place for indie tubers who want that high tier moe style but don't wanna pay out the butt. Experience matters too as if the artist doesn't know how to draw/cut live2d, it'll be a mess when rigged. It's definitely a multi faceted decision for the vtuber!

Sorry for rambling! I'm new to this kind of site and tend to talk in too much detail.

>>8432768
There was an artist mentioned here before with good quality art for the price. Ended up being menhera and extremely hard to work with. Often tweets that clients dropped them. It’s obvious why.

Always do a background check of anyone you plan to work with. Saves you a lot of headache in the future.

>"spanish" vtuber
>only speaks japanese on stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igZuaMfPbUE

>>8393056
sadge
still here with my 0 views audition for niji male
have they really picked all their candidates already T _ T

>>8438061
probably. but at least i how a target milestone to hit. if i can get 30k subs by the time next auditions roll out, i'm gonna be sitting pretty.

>>8437565
>I'm new to this kind of site
First rule would be to never ever admit that in less friendly threads.

>>8437565
Nah again don't say sorry that was a good read.

I pretty much agree with everything you said, any kind of side business is gonna be rough like that doesn't matter if it's art commissions, or streaming, it can be years before you can even make minimum wage, let along an actually good wage. So I can understand when your love for art can turn into a sort of rough grind just to make it. I'm only familiar with 2d png art, I don't know the market for live 2d rigging but 4 digits makes sense to me since I think that stuff is really complex.

I might add a correction, I think skeb rates are as comparable to western rates because skeb is japanese based and the cost of living there is high/similar to that of western countries. But I could be wrong.

What's your circle if you don't mind sharing? You kinda got me curious now

Seriously, what do you think is the explanation behind Nijisanji not checking 99% of male applications?

>>8440032
They found who they wanted? Or they rejected them outright based on numbers or answers to the questions asked, and didn't bother to watch the videos. Simply screened out.

>>8440032
They were already prehired and the auditions were just a formality even though the girls reminded the audience about them at the end of the Obsydia debuts.

>>8393056
>>8438935
You miss all the shots you don't take. Doesn't hurt to audition, just be reasonable with your expectations. Even Selen had <1k subs on YT iirc, but Nijisanji saw her talent or something.

>>8438935
The thing is.. I have over 15k subs so it feels superrr sting in the ass to not even get a chance
Maybe my text write up was that bad? iunno

>>8440932
She had almost 10k followers on twitch though. Funny enough kept getting denied for partnership.

She dished out content while having a lot of skill in games (T500 OW and Apex) and does art.

Selen is a prime example of how important getting content reps in, and making use of your best abilities.

>>8441394
Did you admit you were doing it for the money or something?

>>8440032
What proof do you have they only saw 1% of them?

>>8441660
Nah, nevermind what i wrote. I just wish I could find out if its every male, or just the ones who submitted after X date
aka early bird gets the worm kind of concept with these auditions

>>8441962
I promise it wasn't that. I was in there early July and got nothing.

>>8442103
so can we all assume they havent even started looking through yet?
or its what the other anon said how theyve picked long ago but the audition is just a facade

>>8442327
Or we're just too small a sample size to really have any way to say one way or the other. After all, there's, what, five of us males who applied who regularly come back to this thread?

NijiEN male auditions ended Aug 1st and they said they would contact you within a month. if no one gets views by the end of this week, they've probably already picked their team.

I made it to the third round of an audition, and now I'm stuck in limbo waiting to hear back. Sucks.

>>8443410
Good luck Niji Kitsune-Onee-chan

>>8443410
Continue producing content! There's no need to stay in limbo.

>>8443410
So did I. It feels weird and discouraging sitting and waiting, but I'm finding it hard keeping up with my old channel while I wait.

>>8444023
Good luck Niji MahouNeko-chama

Based Selen confirming nepotism

>>8443410
gasp
"an" audition means not niji male one? :(
if so least i can have some closure XD

hi everyone, i'm new to /asp/ so i wanted to ask some questions, i hope that's okay
i'm currently working on my model (pic related) and wanted to ask if it's possible to get picked up by an agency if you drew and/or rigged your own model, have you heard of any such cases?
the other question is, is it possible to get into a bigger agency (like hololive or niji) if all you have is a twitter account with 100 followers and a few streams with 20 views each archived on yt? i don't wanna start out as an indie just to have to leave my fanbase and identity behind...

>>8445196
Niji got a nobody with Leos Vincent. They’re more possible to aim for than Holo. But I think they’re raising the bar currently for EN members. You definitely need to be really talented or have a strong charisma if you don’t have the followers to back up. Niji and Holo members always had to leave their past indie selves behind. Idk about other agencies because they’re barely worth it.

Nice WIP you got tho btw. Love the hair!

>>8445196
>if it's possible to get picked up by an agency if you drew and/or rigged your own model, have you heard of any such cases?
only know of Suisei pulling that off way back in the early days of vtubing before it got big and profitable. now-a-days, that'll be almost impossible as the company will want to own the complete rights to your model.

>>8445413
Yeah NijiEN is establishing itself in the west and they want to grab all the biggest indies first before they branch out and let people with unproven track records in. New waves are like a race at this point and the pool of great vtubers is quite small as every other company is quickly gobbling them up.

>>8445196
>>8445606
VShojo lets you keep your model, I think. They're running auditions now, Anon1.

>>8445690
>VShojo
it's really more of a twitch streaming team than a proper agency though. their entire model is accepting other indie vtubers into a shared group. but they're not paid a stipend or anything like you'd expect from Holos or Nijis.

>>8444104
Still producing content, never stop ever

>>8444023
I know what you mean, it’s like here is a big opportunity and then there’s my little channel that feels like it would never make it up there alone. Hopefully we both make it

>>8445752
They still attract eyeballs by virtue of the branding, though, and that's got value.

what you guys think about Vroid? it's good to start to fuck around and do a simple model?

>>8446322
Yes. Browse around in Booth.pm for free assets.

>>8445196
as was mentioned, neither niji nor holo will let you keep your model; suisei was kind of a weird case and i don't think she even auditioned normally to the company
vshojo isn't a company but getting picked up by one would be leagues better than getting picked up by any company aside from niji and holo so that would be your only option in regards to keeping your identity and fans
In regards to getting picked up, rrats are saying that one of the new EN2 girls came from a small agency with a not particularly high viewer average so you might have a chance if you can get past like 50 average viewers if you're exceptional in a talent they're looking for like singing.

>>8446322
Gonna be honest here, shit Vroid models filter me like hell. As long as your model doesn't have the default face and actually looks like effort was spent on it then it's good.

>>8446322
vroid is fine to start with and there's a lot of really simple things you can do to make it look not bad since the default settings are pretty terrible
there's a couple of chuubas in /wvt/ that have good models or have worked extensively in vroid if you ever needed any help figuring things out as well; using some free/cheap booth assets can go a long way

>>8447891
time to go to the archive

>>8446322
https://pastebin.com/Ax7XhPeH

>>8447910
i'll just namedrop some who i know have selfmade their models; PiCKY (https://www.twitch.tv/pickychannel)), Bunzel (https://www.twitch.tv/bunzel_ch)), and Kenji (https://www.twitch.tv/goldenkenji)) all have pretty good vroids and none of them have the same look that you see from default hoodie vroids

How do I stop being a numberfag? Seeing clips I spent hours editing barely get any views while some low-effort unedited reaction clips rake in the thousands just make me feel like everything is wasted efforts.

>>8448426
Don't do that

>>8448426
start doing more low effort shit, people love it.

>>8448385
oh they look so good do they do that themselfs? or just get the assets and try to get wild? what about blender?

>>8448426
Those low-effort reaction clips are yours? Keep doing them.

>>8448480
i'm not toooooo sure on the details; I think picky and bunzel did their models themselves, and kenji's was mostly selfmade with one or two things purchased off booth
my knowledge of the program is quite limited; i know there's some fuckery you can do in blender and unity but how exactly i couldn't tell you

>>8448426
Make things people like.

>>8448477
>>8448533
Should have wrote it more clear, sorry. I don’t do reaction clips, I hate those things because I see them as low-effort trash. I’m feeling jealous from seeing reaction clips from others getting high number of views, while my clips that I spent hours editing see almost no views.

>>8448805
>while my clips that I spent hours editing see almost no views.
then stop spending hours editing? are you even big enough for there to be enough people who see your stuff? much less appreciate it? if you're just starting out, your goal should be getting as many eyes on you.

>>8448805
Yeah so stop doing that. It's making you unhappy and isn't helping you.

>>8448877
Clips have helped people go for 10 view to 100 over night even if they're not from big clip accounts. you should still be "making content" but you have to make content people care about, and a majority of what people care about are horny, cute, or funny (typically reaction) stuff.

>>8449011
"clips" shouldn't be taking hours to edit though. so whatever that anon is doing is very inefficient.

>>8448877
>are you even big enough for there to be enough people who see your stuff?
No, I’m just starting out for a few months and have only uploaded a handful of clips, not a streamer (yet) btw. I fully expect my clips to not gain much views when I’m just starting out, but I can’t help but feeling this numberfag jealousy

>>8449060
A majority of popular clips are either funny stream moments (typically reaction based) or people who are just genuinely funny making content for their community and other vtubers that share. If you don't make those you probably won't get views to begin with. Unless you're a girl, then coomer bait.

>>8449060
Don't be dumb.

>>8449060
You're not even streaming and you wonder why your clips don't get traction? C'mon anon, use your noggin. Start streaming and make clips from that content. This is very basic stuff.

>>8402156
>they're probably not talent scouting, but rather looking for existing talents who have established viewer bases

nigger what do you think scouting means?

>>8448698
thank you

>>8449194
I've seen clips from people who weren't active do very well, it all has to do with how funny people find them. I think one person I saw had 3 videos do well before they even streamed.

>>8449255
picking up talents like Ina, Ame and Calli. not established indie vtubers with 50k subs on their youtube channel and 100k follows on twitter. there's a difference between scouting for talent and just numberchasing for easy views.

Lads how the fuck do I get retard and faggot out of my vocabulary so I don't get nuked. I have to stop my self so many times when streaming and people are starting to watch me.

>>8449420
Retard is fine

>>8449420
have a sticky note on your monitor when you stream reminding you to not say it?
this is kind of just basic irl stuff that you have to learn when you get most jobs anon...

>>8449420
stop using them. stop typing them. set up a filter to block them.

>>8449373
Ina and Ame were already established vtubers. Mori is somewhat of an exception, but not really because she still had a large audience. There's no basis to say that Cover was numberchasing with EN2 but not EN1.

>>8449420
I don't understand how people can even have this issue. Do you have this problem at your wagey job too?

>>8425510
considering it! but the way it's worded and the lack of experience is filtering me. i wanna go with the little mermaid though, since I have more nostalgia towards it over arabian nights

>>8425510
>Wanting to be brown
I see Sana's numbers

>>8445413
for what its worth, it looks like Hololive doesn't actually have a non-competition clause of some flavor, as roommate streams are kind of a thing, but that you just don't blend the two, and it can of course become a pain to deal with as the streamer.
Niji seems to though

The Nijisanji male auditions have proceeded to round 2. How many of you got the E-Mail?

>>8452888
Stop it anon you scared me

>>8453111

>>8453349
anon if you make it when you debut say your favorite color is green

>>8453349
>able to upload an image and not impacted by the image upload on /vt/
must be legit. don't dog whistle /vt/ or 4ch. if you land it, leave and don't look back.

>>8453408
>>8453438
I very much doubt I'll make it. I'm sure there's hundreds still in the running. Nonetheless I'm hoping some others here got one. Quartet bro especially. He was such an inspiration during the application stage.

>>8453349
When did you get a view?

>>8453940
I didn't pay too much attention as I didn't have any views for weeks. Now there's 3 views so some time within the last 2 weeks.

>>8453349
>Hooray, no spam here!
Don’t mock me like this Google.
If you don’t mind me asking what are your Twitch numbers like.

>>8454256
20-30 average viewers. About 900 followers.

>>8453349
Are you male? Re we for real getting male nijisanji EN?? Fuck i am excited hope there is a shota and one of them does BFE

>>8453349
>meanwhile, me:

>>8454473
Just got this same email, anon. Not sure I could feel any worse than I already do.

>>8454532
Sorry to hear, anon. I was really hopeful for this one but considering they got 500 applicants, I guess they got some good ones.

>>8454250
You can check with Youtube analytics, I'd really appreciate it if you did

>>8454628
I don't fully now how to do that Anon, sorry. Best I can find is this page that suggests 2 of the 3 were in the last 48 hours. The first one may well have been me watching it myself desu.

>>8453349
Congrats!

>>8454768
All good, thanks! Gives me some hope they're rolling out the emails as they go as opposed to have sent them in a batch after making decisions beforehand.

>>8454819
They haven't tweeted for people to check their emails yet, so there might be some hope(cope) yet.

Still hoping ghost hasn't been dropped from the Niji lineup. Feel like I'm gonna turn into one before we get any news about it.

>>8454925
>>8454819
That definitely seems to be the case. A friend of mine apparently got his 2 days ago and he applied about a week before me so they're probably working their way through.

>>8453349
I empty my spam folder regularly. Yey!

>>8455000
>>8454925
Hope you guys are right. I've had no views even with some pretty insane credentials that don't translate into numbers on any of the streaming services, so I hope I haven't been passed up based on that.

>>8455000
When did you apply?

>>8455686
About a week before auditions closed.

>>8454473
>>8454532
props to you, anons, for at least taking the chance and shooting your shot. i hope this isn't the last >we hear of you, and that you decide to go and continue your content creation.

>>8455071
I don't have provable long term streaming experience, which I'm afraid filtered me entirely. Despite my numbers being good from other things and having a wealth of experience.
I auditioned about halfway through deadline. Still 0 views. If I don't at least get my audition looked at, it's going to be a huge gut punch.
Either way, I'll expand my skills to increase my chances, particularly putting in more streaming reps so I have more established history as a VTuber.

I hope today's HoloEN2 experience was an eye-opened for anyone unsure about doing opsec reps. With the exception of Sana (who was inevitable as an artist), and Kroni, all the the others still had active, open social media with tweets relating to significant others. Don't be stupid, do your opsec reps and distance/lock down old accounts

>>8456428
I have nothing to hide on my old account besides some art. I never talked about my personal life so if any non med havers go to town all they will fine is the same shit I post now. which is memes and art

>>8456428
Haven’t heard anything solid about the rat though?

>>8456428
What exactly are you meant to do on your social media? I still feel lost on if I should reply to various people's twitter posts or if that's frowned upon.

>>8454473
Same anon…
We just have to keep at it!

>>8453349
Ohh congrats anon! I really hope it goes well for you!! Report back on what sort of stuff they asked.

>>8456428
>never had social media
>don't have a bf
guess i have nothing to worry about

>>8456737
Yikes, how many of you got Tsunderia interviews?

>>8454473
>>8454532
>>8456737
Would any of you rejected /asp/ies want to get together to network a little? I’d make a burner discord to set something up so you wouldn’t need to post your info here.

>>8316846
I hope you were able to do your stream, anon. If not then I hope you're able to gather your courage and go for it soon!

>>8456561
It's quite literally on their main twitter accounts. It's not even a rrat.

>>8455071
>>8456429
No streaming experience either, so I wasn't expecting much. I just want them to view my audition video is all. Sent my app first week of July too, still nothing.

>>8458558
What's annoying about it, is I do have about a year of streaming experience, with decent numbers. But it was back in the JTV days and that's too old to be archived and provable.
I've done some streams on and off on Twitch and YT over the past year, but nothing consistent.
Mostly just been a YouTuber for a very long time. Which I don't think disqualifies me by any means. But fuck knows why I haven't even had a view yet.
Wouldn't even begin to know what I should improve on for next time if I can't even get them to view my audition.

>>8458927
Maybe they just haven't gotten to your application yet. Who knows what order they're viewing them.

does a book club sound like an interesting idea? i’ve been wanting to get back into reading, myself, but i’m not sure about the legality of what would basically be an audiobook, and i don’t know if my voice is soothing enough to make it worthwhile. i think i would record and upload it rather than streaming, but i don’t know if chatting about the novel in the comments would be as valuable as live discussion.
>>8454473
i’m sorry, anon. keep at it - a setback like this always sucks, but you can grow from it and come out the other side better than before. i believe in you.

>>8459457
Hey anon, thanks a lot. I think I'll just go for it and drop a load upgrading my PC. Was hoping getting into a company would help but Tsunderia was my last hope for the level I'm currently at. Guess I really do need to start getting into streaming and stop relying on my traditional skills to get recognised.

>>8459457
>the legality
You're basically fucked. The book needs to be out of author's copyright (75 years from author's death), plus the edited version you're reading from (depends on country, and how substantial it is)

>>8459457
I recommend being very careful about uploading any live readings or audiobook styled stuff to YT. These companies have copyright trolls and will strike your channel over it.

If you just keep it live you're probably fine since you'd be low profile.

>>8459873
>>8459968
shit. thanks for the info, i appreciate it. i’ll see if i can’t run through the public domain and find something interesting, at least.

Trying not to make this about the numbers but I feel like I’ve stagnated and it feels bad. I have about 10-15 viewers and about 100 followers but I haven’t seen any growth over the past month at all.

What can I do to gain more traction? How do I stop feeling like a failure because I’m not growing as fast as I’d like?

https://twitter.com/cap393/status/1429716879757639685
People who arent sending applications to the fastest growing agency with clear leadership is missing out.

>>8460659
What social media are you on, and active on? You should be active (ish) on Twitter at a minimum, but also:
- Tiktok (edited clips)
- YT (edited clips, clip compilations, potentially vods)
- Twitter (edited clips, interaction with fans, other streamers, artists)
- Instagram (? Don't use it, not seen many others do)
- reddit (maybe. Might be worth shilling yourself on specific game subs?)
- discords (group discords, other streamers [but politely])
- twitch (make friends, don't mention you're a streamer, but then raid them another day)

Since I started posting on TT, I've got a few extra follows, but the big bit was a raid 3* my current audience. And half of them stuck around until end of stream.

>>8453349
Shit, why did you have to give me hope

>>8453349
Congrats anon, and anyone else that got in. Good luck in the next round!
My video didn't even get viewed. Kind of stings, but it just means I have to be better

Just to confirm everyone in this thread is a tranny right?

>>8453349
good luck anon i’m rooting for you

>>8463319
Just (You).

>>8453349
please censor better this is giving me anxiety

>an anon blew his chances at getting into Niji just to flex on aspies on 4chan with a poorly cropped and still easily identifiable email image
Weeeeew lad

Since we now know male applications are being looked at, anyone else have any activity in the past few days?

>>8467659
Not I, and I've run out of copium about it as well. I'm just going to have to accept they aren't even going to glance at it any move on to whatever the next plan is.

>>8467659
I'll be genuinely surprised if something happened at this point.

>Follower count keeps growing
>Average viewers barely budging

How do I get people to stick around? It feels like I have an almost completely new set of regulars every 3 months

>>8470747
I don't know. I think the rule of thumb is that something like 1% of your followers show up to your streams. Just keep doing your best making content, I suppose.

>>8454473
Nice of Tsunderia to at least send you this.

>>8457095
LMAO holy shit I gotta see this. Not only did aspies not learn from previous 4chuubas but they didn't learn from the previous set of aspies and are going to do the aspcord loop again

>>8470747
It's a grindset. You need the mindset.

>>8472224
What would this be, aspies gen 3? 4?

>>8472405
If there are more girls than last time, I'll watch.

>>8472405
gen 3 I think, gen 1 + 2 was the aspcord drama, so then I guess 3 + 4 would be aspcord2 drama

>>8472483
I would say that pretty much all the /asp/ies from Atropa and onwards would be gen 3 yeah
if you do make an /asp/cord at the very least don't fucking make it private (again)

>>8472224
It's almost like chuubas having a space to quickly network is desirable.

>>8473447
yeah but if you can't do archive reps to see how the last 4 discords for networking turned out then maybe you deserve to get fucked over by the consequences

>>8473498
The move is just no discord, even if it's public fully, private, or read only schizos will run away and make up plots.

>>8453349
Anon, that is absolutely awesome. If you don't mind me asking, what date did you apply?

>>8473498
btw if you want to do on your own here you go here's some keywords to look up and see how things turned out
herdcord
velcord
/asp/cord
that should get you started on the drama that awaits if you make a discord, even public, around here

>>8473447
>a space to quickly network is desirable.
get yourself a twitch and twitter channel. do a couple of test streams with a png or even no png. then reach out to any of the /asp/ies on twitter. if you're serious about becoming a vtuber, you'll get an invite. otherwise, there have just been too many trolls looking to stir up some drama and shit.

>>8474025
Sorry, I just noticed you replied earlier. A week before deadlines.

I should stop delaying trying to make everything perfect and just debut as a pngtuber at this point, shouldn't I? By the time I get everything perfectly done, like 5 months will have passed. What if another Nijisanji audition comes and they pass me over for not having done anything? I would have just wasted all that time for nothing. Fuck I feel like such an idiot. So much time has passed I don't even like the original design sheet I have at this point. Fuck I'm so stupid.

>>8477217
Yes. Start streaming, see if you enjoy it, and go from there. Content is king.

>>8477217
Yes. Your first streams will be scuffed to fuck. Might as well get them out of the way now, anon.

Best time to plant a tree was twenty years ago.

>>8477292
Second best time is today.

>>8477369
Second best time was 19 years, 364 days ago. But 7301st best time is today

>finally came up with a name
now i can actually start making accounts for twitch and stuff

>>8477247
I love streaming, I used to do it heaps back in VRChat peak. It was great and I miss it, but then I wanted to start fresh and have a perfect debut. I’ve wasted so much time not streaming and I’ve been missing it every day.
>>8477292
You’re right, you’re definitely right. Fuck it. I’ll get a quick commission, and the day after it’s done I’m gonna debut. If I wait any longer I’m gonna be a rotting carcass in a chair. I’m sad from failing the audition but maybe this is the punch in the gut I needed. Fuck fuck I’m gonna do it, I promise.

>>8477592
>the day after it’s done
In that case, start getting everything set up NOW.

Twitch, Twitter, Tiktok, Youtube - get the channel name.
Set up your 'abouts', your links.
Get Nightbot/streamlabs/streamelements set up.
Download OBS. Dick about in it, record locally.
Get your overlays done (do them yourself in MSPaint if you have to)
Are you going to let any IRL friends watch? Consider getting them to follow and join in your early streams - starting on three viewers will jump you up the scales a LOT.

Is there an indie vtuber that uses a girl avatar but is a guy and doesn't try to change their voice?

>>8477592
Get PNGtubing and build a small fanbase, so you have an audience for your big live2d model debut.

>>8477592
it's not that hard to even spend 5 dollars on a stock image PNG of a clipart man and doodle an open/closed mouth on it to start.

>>8477798
A babiniku? There's a lot.

>>8478163
What'd you call me?

>>8477790
Half of that is mostly sorted already. First and foremost I need to talk to my Mama. I promised her I’d make a grand debut and it’d be amazing and everything, and she’s been waiting for me to debut before she shows off the concept art of my original design. I need to let her know so she doesn’t wait any longer and she gets something out of my failed attempt by posting it on her social tags. Hell, maybe I can commission her again if she’s available, hopefully.
>>8477798
Ito Life. He’s Japanese, but he doesn’t pretend he is a girl or anything. His design is also pure sex.
>>8478049
I don’t want it to be completely crap though. I have some money to throw around to make stuff look good, but I’ve just been aiming to high all this time. Hell I could probably get a live2d rig but I’d just be wasting more time at that point. I need to start ASAP.

Alright I’m gonna start doing shit. Thanks for the motivation anons. I’m gonna make you guys proud.

>tfw wanna do warhammer painting streams
>dont want hands in shot to break immersion
suffering...

>>8478275
That's what that kind of vtuber is called.
There's a lot of them out there

>>8478502
Name a few please.

>>8478468
gloves anonchan. You can get a pack of 100 for like $10

general advice and manager larp:
>make content first, everything comes 2nd to content
>planning out your stream content is 10000x more important that having an overlay or having whatever follow or sub notifications set up, or even a model to start with
>if you're planning on doing gaming content you're going to need something else to make you stand out, there are too many of those already
>your first streams will suck, just accept it and improve every stream
>make an effort to tangibly improve something ever week, adding a new overlay element, new schedule template, new alerts, new content, something should be visibly better about your stream every week
>stream using a temp account to practice because you might not like your initial character design or want your ultra scuffed streams to be in your VODs
>do your reps for at least 3 weeks to see if you can keep a consistent schedule before dropping any serious cash on this
>get used to talking to no one, too many vtubers rely on chat to feed them topics and things to talk about, you should be leading your chat by the hand on what you want to talk about and be able to handle a completely dead chat and have a one way conversation or lecture on a topic for your stream length
>put a post it note on your monitor of things you want to talk about that stream
>put a post it note of names on your monitor, use those whenever you need a name for a story, do not use your real name, a friends, real name, or your pets real name
>change details in every story you tell as a standard practice to avoid doxxing
>clear your name out of doxx sites, use the pastebin for a reference on how to do that
>check archives for any previous identities you could have to see what comes up if someone does break your opsec
>watch your streams back, at least skipping through to hear how things go, write down note on how you would feel if you were watching this as a viewer

>don't have money for 2dlive
>probably won't for a long time
Is it okay to be a pngtuber for a long while?

>>8479078
eggch has been using a png egg drawn in paint for the last 6+ months I think you'll manage fine, you have to worry more about being boring or having no content than what if your model is kind of scuffed

>>8479078
I think a good design png can carry you much further than a shitty design L2D

>>8474864
Who do I message/follow for an invite?

>>8480173
Veleck holds the keys

>>8425510
I have two great designs in mind for Alice in wonderland and the little red hood, I will probably go for red hood since probably it will be the least applied

>>8480470
No for /asp/cord

PNGs are the future.
>Cheaper than L2D/3D
>Requires fewer resources to stream with
>Much more expressive
>Capable of poses and short animations no L2D/3D model could do without serious $$$
>Effectively unlimited ability to edit just by opening image in photoshop
>You can do special event streams with reactive fanart as celebration instead of dropping hundreds on a new outfit
Abandon L2D/3D. Embrace PNG.

What's better? Reactive PNG or average vroid?

Is it better to use only youtube or also twitch? I wanted to also make regular videos instead of only livestreams but I fear it might divide my community if I use multiple plataforms

>>8481906
Png

>>8481993
Use Twitch primarily, use YouTube to backup VODs and for pre-recorded content. Remind viewers about your YouTube, and shill your YouTube material on Twitter. Twitch should be your primary platform. You can multistream to both, but it's more hassle than it's worth.

If Holo/Niji's recent batches are any indicator, we can deduce backwards as to what these two corpos actually want from their talents.

They don't place too much importance on streaming ability or personality or keeping up conversation topics, or quirky interesting talents much anymore.

They seem to nowadays, lean heavily towards the idol stuff, so voice talent and singing are above all else now. They seem to believe now that streaming reps, to actually be entertaining are things that can be mended over a much longer period of time. In fact they seem to be under the idea that their brand name and large subscription numbers can mask those shortcomings.

They also seem to think of game streaming as minus points in their criteria. Trying to keep up with new games and getting permissions is something that these corpos don't want to bother doing and discourage their talents unless it's from sponsorships.

>>8482837
What exactly in your mind makes a good streamer?

>>8482472
Thanks for the reply. Does twitch or youtube have any clause that you can't be partnered to one or another?

>>8483170
I think once you're a Twitch partner there are stipulations that prohibit multistreaming. Not sure about at affiliate, though I can check. YouTube just has really bad visibility for small streamers, and the more interactive features of Twitch make it better for growing and interacting with an audience. Plus things like Twitch raids, besides being fun, are good for networking.

>>8483627
I didn't plan to multistream anyway so I don't think it will be a problem for me if that's the case. My pre-recorded content would be my main focus while I stream zatsudans and some games inbetween

>>8483170
if you're a twitch affiliate you cannot multistream
if you're a partner you have to let twitch have exclusivity on all your content for the specified number of days before you can upload VODs

>>8483131
>What exactly in your mind makes a good streamer?
This thing has been discussed to death in so many threads. There's a definite baseline of when "good" starts.

>>8485948
And what is that?

>>8479409
The design would be the same, it's just that in L2D the rigging can drag it down if done bad.

>>8477544
Nice.
>pic related
I want to give my model the scorpion jacket, but I don't want any connections to Gosling.

>>8480478
I was under the impression the models were already designed

>>8480521
Lance. he selfposted in /wvt/ a couple of weeks back letting anons know they can reach out to him for an invite. design is tall dude, ikemen style, has a mask that covers his eyes.

>>8480478
Why would red hood be the least applied? I would think Arabian Nights would br since that one's probably the least well read. Red Hood has plenty of, unfortunate-or-non, sex appeal across a whole bunch of media as well. I would place her second most popular after Alice given the list.

>>8468073
Yeah I think it's over, to be honest.
Even though it makes no fucking sense I wasn't looked at, I'm gonna have to move on.
Upside is I can just submit all the same stuff again, since they didn't look at any of it.

>>8470747
Discord interaction with my community helped me keep mine around, but people around here are afraid of the discord boogeyman. Went from 25 average to 10 because i slowed activity, but those 10 are always around, and two are my mods. Other people come and go so I do fluctuate, but that discord interaction of just having a "oh lulz we got a meme channel and i'll chat in general sometiems and you can share things liek clips, art ,vtubers, games youre playing etc" helps out a ton

>>8491985
This. If you want to make it, you need to always be present in people's minds and interact regularly with their lives. The more you exist in their world the better.

>>8491813
If you're the anon I think you are I am sorry to hear that. I get why they wouldn't even glance at mine as I'm a 2view with no track record so to speak who put all of my effort and hopes into the audition to get me off the ground. But you actually do have numbers, right? I hope you'll continue to move forward even after this. You can still make it.
As for me, guess I'll just put some more legwork in to try and gain something of a real audience and no longer bank on a miracle.

>>8492589
I do have actual numbers and Hololive looked at my audition for Gen 1. Which had no real effort put into it.
Don't really have any choice but to move forward.
I'm hoping that males gain traction and encourage other agencies to open auditions, giving me more opportunities.

>>8493263
If we're talking about "male debuff" that's honestly the only true one I've seen. Apart from Nijisanji no other group with any name at all wants anything to do with male chuubas. The easy advertisement isn't quite there. Complaining about it won't fix it, but it is a little frustrating to have all these auditions you can't really try out for. As you said, indies just are going to have to prove the desire for them in the west especially.

Reached the final interview stage for a company and got denied. How do I stop feeling bad about it and keep trying? It sucks knowing I got so close but there was still something I'm lacking.

>>8490292
someone guessed this on the ppg thread, so I'm just following their thinking
>>8488741
They probably are but having a design in mind helps with the idea of what the character will be, they also asked for a concrete blueprint of your character (image related) also it will probably help show some kind of skill in the video, in my case drawing.

>>8454473
Submit and audition to Prism and Kawaii

>>8493972
You weren't lucky enough to be the best applicant.

>>8493972
You don't need to stop feeling bad about it, but you do need to keep trying. I believe in you, anon!

>>8493940
Idk, maybe male indies should come together and pull a vshojo or something. Who are the best male indies out there? Have them form a group. Advertise where people watch vtubers. Form a boy band or something idk.

>>8491985
Don't listen to the slug, use discord, talk to your viewers, hang out with your viewers, play games with your viewers

>>8493972
A lot of the current best vtubers have been rejected from the final stages of interviews so that means you have a ton of potential to be the best. Just keep at it and you'll find your place.

>>8453349
Congrats anon!! Best wishes for you!!!

any reccs for a good camara to motion tracking?

>>8494655
>Who are the best male indies out there?
>sexual harasser and serial womanizer
>coomerbait
>pedo
>racist
>cheap korean knock off of pewdiepie

>>8493940
HoloEN broke western vtuber fans' brains and every org is playing chicken on who will be the first to run a male vtuber because males go against the hololarp script they've been reading from.

>>8494087
>>8494221
>>8495059
Thanks, anons. I know none of you know who I am, but this really helped. I just need to get back up and keep going.

>>8478468
is your chuuba wearing a sweater of a certain color or a hoddie? then use one too! my character has nail polish on her hands and if i ever assemble aircraft kit models i will paint my nails too. I personally really like when chuubas show their hands, those tend to be my favourite kind of streams.

>>8478468
no one really cares, Halbernacht paints minis on stream and no one cares he's not a super fair skinned elf

Is there no niche for a furry vtuber artist?

>>8496279
Furries are loaded, shoot your shot

>>8493972
Keep working and becoming better. You will get there anon. At least this means that you do have the talent, you just weren't what they wanted this time.

>>8496279
Yes, there is it. But I only recommend you trying to please furries only if you really like that community. don't do it for the money

>>8496279
I follow and watch plenty of furry vtubers, like all of them are artists. Here's just one Twitch team: https://www.twitch.tv/team/boardoftrustees

To everyone who is unironically still aspiring to get into a large org at this point. Give up on that as your dream. Even the biggest Chuubas on 4chan have absolute no chance of getting in yet alone you. Find another dream to chase and stop aiming so high that it makes you unable to move.

>>8496834
does anyone have the screencap of that furry artist who was commissioned to make 1000 söyjaks?

>>8481674
Are pngtubers just like pngs you swap between for different reaction and shit like one of those ranti youtube channels

>>8497224
Yeah, basically, but I honestly think they're the better choice. I recommend looking at little_s_ for a good example of what a pngtuber can do. I think someone can push the envelope further and I'd like to do that someday, but right now getting to his level is my goal.

>>8497449
>little_s_
Damn pngchuubas are kinda based

>>8494467
do you think they want vtuber commentators?

>>8497449
>little_s_
I saw him having a collab with Nijisanji with League of legends right now which means he's reached the top of what a male pngtuber can do. That's pretty cool desu.

Anybody here think this is a good concept? I may try my hand at it.
>have a young sounding voice
>gun autist
Thought about getting a Girls Frontline inspired femboy Vtuber model and playing shooting games while talking about the deatails of all the guns in the games. Thoughts?

>>8498886
>have a young sounding voice
>gun autist
please be a shota please be a shota please be a sho
>femboy

>>8499014
this. so tired of disgusting femboys. Give me cute shotas.

>>8499014
>>8499225
Oh fuck that works too but I don't sound *that* young. Maybe middle to high school.

>>8499360
middle school or freshman is fine just please not a femboy I really like your idea I want to hear a cute shota sperg about firearms please

We had three large profile graduations last week so it's likely that 3/4 of the spots for NijiEN wave 3 has been picked. I'm sure they'll start to work on the males now.

>>8499360
middle school shota is best shota

>>8496900
>stop aiming so high that it makes you unable to move
Why can't I aim high and keep on moving at the same time?

>>8500442
If you can be inspired by aiming high that’s fine. But most of the people here are afraid to take their starting steps.

>>8499671
>We had three large profile graduations
who other than Lyrica?

>>8501543
Lyrica, Shannon, MariaFD and Hana are the top recent graduations. All 4 are top tier utaites and also multilingual.

>look into becoming a vtuber
>see how much work it is and lose interest

Why do all these vtuber girls pretend to be lazy when clearly they are focused enough to set all of this shit up?

>oh hahahah I'm such a smol-brained lazy baby who sleeps all day
>but yes I did set up all this streaming shit and artwork and overlays all while having a full time job
???

>>8500661
This is what some anons here don’t understand. They think you can get the Golden ticket to become big without any experience. It’s retarded

>>8504122
Not a girl but streaming is one of the only things I can force myself to put any attention towards even on medication

>>8504122
imposter syndrome

Is there a way to view Twitch VOD analytics? I want to know how many of the views are unique and maybe who's watching them and when if possible

>>8504297
Yeah some of the anons putting all their hope into being accepted are also some of the ones asking how to monologue and struggling to even get affiliate
Maybe those groups will consider diamonds in the rough but they're not gonna take a risk on someone THAT rough

Is it fine to self shill test streams in this thread or should I take my shit to /wvt/ anyway? What's the cutoff, I guess is what I want to ask.

>>8507418
if you're looking for specific feedback and advice, here would be better than /wvt/. but it's a bit of a low time because everyone else is starting up their streams. so you probably won't get many eyes on you right now.

>>8507418
Anons shill their test streams all the time here, I think it’s fine

>>8507418
Funny, I was about to ask the same question, but I also don't even have a png yet and was wondering if it would be appropriate to drop a link to an audio only stream on a personal account

>>8501922
oh no if MarieFD gets into NijiEN i will cringe so hard
i pray to god its another agency and not niji

Thanks. It'll be later on tonight as I'm still waging rn. I've decided to stop being a stupid motherfucker and actually do shit so I'd appreciate the feedback.

>>8507880
Why? Is it because of the spic pandering or something else?

>>8508134
shes literally the spanish nyanners combined with ironmouse
its worse than bao

>>8504122
It took me fucking 5 months to set all that crap up

>>8482837
>They seem to nowadays, lean heavily towards the idol stuff, so voice talent and singing are above all else now.
I agree. This seems to be the case so far.

>They seem to believe now that streaming reps, to actually be entertaining are things that can be mended over a much longer period of time. In fact they seem to be under the idea that their brand name and large subscription numbers can mask those shortcomings.
Ït doesn't seem like it. It looks like they're still targeting chuubas with an already "big" following, at least for now. We'll know for sure when the males debut and if their past lives are known.

>>8492589
Coping similarly here, anon. I put a lot of emotional investment into it, even though I logically knew I shouldn't.

It will be a bit tough but I have great ideas for content for the rest of the year. Hopefully I have an impressive-looking library by the time the next auditions come. I really don't think I want anywhere other than the rainbow 3pm place.

>>8504122
i guess weeb men don't find intelligent capable women worth of a fap. That or they are just egirls whohave daddy's money to pay for everything and didn't have to do much effort at all. I will let you choose which one to belive.

>>8499014
Don't worry anon, I'm working on it.

I want to move this thread culture into manager LARP rather than “pls let me in <company> I have no experience” but I am unsure how to influence it in that direction. I can give advice myself but beyond that…

>>8510519
You're doing all you can, besides maybe producing and shilling infographics or resource pastebins. As good a maxim as "be the change" is, your options just about run out there.

>>8511034
You have a point. Maybe I’ll throw out daily prompts that people can answer and maybe they can think about improving their content a little more. Thanks Anon!

>>8511304
Sounds cool, I'll be on the lookout

>>8510519
The easiest way to move it that direction might honestly be to get new chuubas to post more streams here so you can call them retarded in kinder words. But it would be an anonymous sort of manager larping so I don't know if it would personally help you.

>>8510519
Just manager larp, it's fun!

>>8510519
>thread culture into manager LARP
what would that even look like? you're not going to get a bunch of chuubas willingly posting their links here each thread.

>>8513908
Funny, because that's happened before when an anon said "post your link and I'll watch your vod and provide criticism"

>>8514048
that's just one bored anon not an entire thread's culture

Giving this a try...

Let's talk about target market.

Because there are a million vtubers these days its important to know who exactly will be watching your content so you can target your content to what is most appealing to them.

Keep in mind, when it comes to streaming people are looking for three things; education, entertainment and social activity.

A good example of each of these would be:
- A pro player playing their game of choice (education)
- A funny streamer being funny (entertainment)
- GFE (social)

Think about the value that you are giving your target audience and how you can better shape your content to enhance this.

I finally reached 100 subs on my youtube! I don't stream but I do vids on anime stuff. Realised my seasonal review the first ep stuff doesn't get traction though, so I'm gonna move to focus on researching what's coming out.

>>8515695
I'm hoping people are looking for a chill streamer to relax and banter with (I know, I know, there's already a million of them already)

>>8516202
I think if you’re willing to commit to the slow grind that’s not terrible. But without anything to make you stand out, people will probably end up leaving you for someone else eventually.

>>8516660
Yeah, I think the one thing I'm not a fan of is I'd much prefer doing chatting streams or some other form of interaction (allowing for banter), but in order to grow a decently sized audience to really do it the only way I can think of doing it is just the regular old game streams until I amass enough people from that

One day I hope to be good enough at art to make chuubas for people, I gotta start doing my reps

>>8516869
How small are you right now? You can do just chatting with 3-5 viewers as long as you have an interesting enough topic to talk about. The issue about doing that is that the just chatting category has absolutely zero discoverability.

>>8517123
>3-5 viewers
That's pretty much exactly my average, and yeah, I'm aware that you don't necessarily need a lot, I've done chatting streams before with low numbers, but the issue is as you said, no discoverability, so odds are it'd stay at that 3-5

>>8517123
Not that anon but this has always bothered me. Why do I see it recommended to started streams in chatting and then move to another category? Even if it's advice for a much larger streamer, I feel like it's never ever going to be an appreciable buff so the only other explanation that comes to mind is algorithm magicks.

You guys do voice rating? I have to know what my voice would fit into because I can't hear it myself and lolnofriends.

>>8515695
Hmmm, so what target audiences are there?

>>8518072
vocaroo, but chances are pretty big that your voice is fine

>>8518072
Vocaroo, make sure to turn their "enhancement" crap off under the little gear icon.

>>8517675
I think its more polite to let your audience who are clicking from the followed bar to see what you're doing at the very moment. Unless you are big enough to have mods do to it for you I wouldn't recommend doing that because it leads to a poor viewing experience for the viewer.
>>8518149
There are as many target audiences as there are people. But usually trying to find a specific kind of person will lead you to trying to attract a certain group. For instance say you are a monster hunter only streamer, you should advertise yourself in monster hunter based discords, threads and subreddits. Since I assume you are a vtuber since you're here the first audience is Vtuber fans. Then you can try target a seperate audience with a different kind of category. You want your targets to flow into each other well. Say you are appealing to people who like devil may cry first, maybe the next game you play should be bayonetta etc etc. Its about building where and who you appeal to.

>>8518333
>>8518772
Thanks, I'll give it a shot in a few hours. Can't right now.