/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

didn't expect Suisei to get higher numbers than the relay

>>8278690
Susie singing is always a mogging.

>>8278244
For the record: Previous >>8258277

WINNER OF THE DAY award goes to
>Seffyna, from Nijisanji KR
From two digits to 2k through sheer talent and rising to the occasion

this is on a guerilla stream

>>8278949
OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT OF THE DAY award goes to
>Mel, from Hololive
Head to head with Suisei singing and still beat 20k and mogged Matuli

>>8278690

Number estimates for EN2 debut?

>>8278949
>>8279036
22k award vs 2k award
Big number > small number

>>8279036
festival is hopeless

>>8279137
Debut delayed, so who knows. Might not be for a week or so. I will decide when there is another date for it.

>>8279137
I had it at 70k-90k, but all those changes in debut time will most likely affect those numbers.

>>8279176
Really? What happened

>>8278986
I've had her recommended before, her singing is great but the constantly moving camera makes her unwatchable for me. There's some strange stuff going on with her, like her twitter account was made a year before her youtube account, and then she just posted covers for 6 months before her first stream.

Didn't they already setup waiting rooms? How mant people were already waiting?

>>8279220
“has been postponed due to unforeseen circumstances.”

>>8279140
Looks like you didn't read the texts.
Seffyna's number is not viewers number, but her boost coefficient - about 50x times.
If you want boring regular numbers - the winner is true king Kuzuha.

>>8278690
She didn't

>>8279313
>Seffyna's number is not viewers number
It is her view number

>>8279220

>>8279140
Context matters retard, a no-name indie getting 10k is far more impressive than Pekora getting 11k for example even if it's a smaller number

>>8278949
>2k viewers
>deserving of any kind of award
Midget worshipping loser

>>8279361
Ok, looks like I am talking to a dumb child right now. Really not worth to continue this dialogue, have a nice day.

>>8279281
>and then she just posted covers for 6 months before her first stream
sounds pretty normal, she was utaite that converted to streamer

>>8279387
Why couldn't she just stream somewhere else? It's basically work from anywhere right?

>>8278949
>celebrating 2k viewers
Is this the midget thread or the numbers thread? I think you might be lost.

>>8279395
>a no-name indie getting 10k is far more impressive than Pekora getting 11k
It was 2k. Which isn’t impressive if you compare her to other VTubers, which is quite common in these threads. It’s not usually a matter of a VTuber vs herself, and then awarding her for beating her other even lower numbers. Just saying.

>>8279534
Yup it's something more serious.

>KING OF THE DAY AWARD GOES TO
KING Kuzuha, closed followed by emperor Shibuya Hal

WHO WOULD WIN?
>THE COMBINED FORCES OF A WHOLE COMPANY
>ONE CHEEKY VAMPIRE RACING IN A FPS UNDER THE CORDINATION OF A CUTE SHOTA
THE ANSWER MAY SURPRISE YOU!

But really, nobody was counting on that, even the ones using Kuzuha as a shitposting fodder

>>8279601
I don't know enough about Seffnya or Niji KR to say how impressive that particular stream was for her, all I'm saying is there's a lot more to data analysis than bigger number > smaller number

>>8279534
Yes anon, she should have just relocated to god knows where in the middle of a storm, packing up her whole setup with all the stuff she prepared for one of the most important events of her life in just a few hours before the debut was supposed to happen.

>>8279534
>Why couldn't she just stream somewhere else
KEK, are you even aware of the scales involved there? Moving away from the tempest would involve moving one timezone away from home.

>>8279705
The race was hype. Much more interesting than watching people build brown bricks in Minecrap.

Will HoloEN2 get a delay boost?

>>8279833
not if susan keeps axing their subs

>>8279756
>a lot more to data analysis than bigger number > smaller number
It was the “award” part that stood out to me.

>>8279705
holy mother of caps lock

>>8279534
Assuming she is living by herself AND can secure another location with broadband and a decent PC ready on location, otherwise she has to secure the family house windows and basement, cut all the tree branches in sight, buy supplies, etc etc

>>8279756
Don’t worry anon, people get riled up for anything. My goal on awarding those subjective shitpost awards is twofold
>stimulate com conversation around numbers
>highlight some interesting numbers that put the overall vtuber industry in perspective

Even people saltly complaining achieve my first objective so it’s not worth fighting them

>>8279705
OH SHIT THE BOYS WON AGAINST MIKO? FUCK YEAH! I'll always be cheering on them because being successful as male vtuber is way harder than as female.

>>8279857
>not if susan keeps axing their subs
It will keep happening because YouTube won’t allow an account to maintain 100k subscribers without putting out any videos, because they don’t want to award a channel with a silver play button for absolutely ZERO content.

>>8279976
They could just change their rules so that you need to have both the subs and a few videos with a certain threshold of views before getting the button, they do that for monetization anyway so it wouldn't be new criteria.

>>8279857
Won't more people turn up, since they feel sorry for them?

>>8280070
nah ppl will forget about them because of the delay especially since cover didn't even give a replacement date, once you lose the hype you aren't getting it back

>>8280184
Yea, this is pretty bad. To not give a concrete date of when they can debut means they're probably only gonna debut to 20-30k instead of the 70k+. Bah this is so sad.

Pomu on the all-time chart!

They delayed the whole gen? Not just the first girl? Goddamnit my Apesex vs new Holo debut dream is dead. I'm here to see an exciting fight, not here to wank on Apex numbers.

I kinda feel bad for holobronies now. This is really bad news. It ruined so many plans.

PSSSSSSSSST
>HEY ANONS
KNEEL!

>>8280735
This sort of highlights how small-time Youtube really is in terms of donations (as if it wasn't obvious enough from vtubers making up 80% of the charts).

>>8280735
Strongest Fairy. Pomu is the top Niji EN SC right?

>>8280994
>small-time
Anon, 60k/year is an excellent salary for a mid level white collar worker in most of the civilized world, and a CEO salary for most of the third world.

>>8281084
does that go straight to the vtuber though

>>8280735
Flare turned white?

>>8281084
It's more like 30k ain't it? That's without being in a small company that also takes a cut. 30k is like working at Walmart.

>>8280735
>under 100k
Can we stop celebrating midgets in this thread? First some literal who with only 2k viewers and now some literal who with under 100k in superchat.

This is the numbers thread, not the midget thread.

This chuuba has a weird phenomenon where her viewers increase the more late it is instead of dropping unlike the others. You can't explain it with EOP turnover like Korone because there's literally not a single EOP in her chat. They must be all NEETS.

Also, she's very cute, close to 300k subs, pls sub.

>>8281179
~$50k after the Youtube cut, and in 2.5 months not a year, minus whatever cut Anycolor takes and plus Streamlabs and voice packs etc.

>>8281325
Midgets everywhere today. Go shill your 2view somewhere else. This is the number thread, not the midget thread.

>>8281325
Ars late night Minecraft is similar, although she does have some Russians who watch. If you stream at a timeslot with fewer other options to watch you can really make it your own

>>8281325
>>8281370
she's a fucking niji, Not some nobody.

>>8281115
>does that go straight to the vtuber though
Not really, I assume, for Hololive at least, AT VERY WORST
>Susan takes 30%
>Cover takes 50% of the remaining 70%
Gross income for the chuuba then is 35%, which is the lower limit I assume any girl takes as their gross income from SC.

That would mean that, in July, the take home before taxes would be, in USD
> Coco: around 100k
> Ibra: around 65k
> Rushia: around 60k

That's for a single month for the heaviest hitters. Even with Uncle Sam / Uncle Tanaka eating 50% (I doubt, but some countries have very high taxes after a certain threshold) the heaviest hitters are taking home after taxes over 10k, easy peasy, in Superchat alone

>>8281084
I'm talking about donations as a portion of the revenue of YouTube as a platform anon. Pomu's entire lifetime superchat revenue is equivalent to about 6 million video views worth of ads at the average CPM.

>>8281249
>Can we stop celebrating midgets in this thread?
This one only seems to be pointing her out at #300, which is fine. I only made fun of the 2k “award” thing because he was fucking serious, but this is nothing by comparison to that.

The delay is really gonna fuck with EN2's numbers. The timing is completely off now since the relay was a really good primer for them. If they end up debuting next week at the soonest, their buzz might've completely worn off at that point. And with Susan messing with their subs which leads to people thinking that theirs less hype surrounding them, I wouldn't even be surprised if they debut with less than 50k live viewers at this point. Whoever is doing the planning on ENs side has completely fucked this gen over. From debuting IRyS first who basically wasted the first EN after Myth buff, to doing the whole cube video which burned lots of viewers. Hope whoever that person is gets fired.

>>8281541
>ibra
Nobody calls him that. It's Ib or Ibrahim.

>>8281249
>noooo you have to react to numbers the same way I dooooooo

>>8281618
Samefagging and ill wishing all across the thread isn't numbers, looks more like an old gypsy lady throwing curses.

>>8281325
Because that is Hakache's slot for MC and her fans are used to it

EN2 will be fine. Korone's debut was possibly the single worst piece of vtuber content I've personally witnessed live and look where she ended up.

>>8281675
No samefag here anon, just a pissed off number bro who's going to lose $20 since he bet on EN getting more than 80k for all of them.

>>8281739
>. Korone's debut was possibly the single worst piece of vtuber content I've personally witnessed
KEK, I would say it was Tenshi's power point presentation.

I laughed my ass off because I've seen 5th graders using old fashioned transparencies in those slide machines doing a better job

>>8279137
highest 100k, if goes same times but Sunday tomorrow. Lowest probably 50-60k

>>8278244
Kuzuha is Kuzuha but Hal is a monster for an indie. Literally no major company propping him up.

>>8281666
it's pajeet

>>8278244
>Hal beating a fucking Minecraft relay
it's over. Holos should just play Apex.

>>8280806
This. I want to see Vsaikyou absolutely mogg EN2 debut, but Cover decided to pussy out.

>>8281867
The first girl that goes (Sana unless they shuffle the order) is gonna get fucked on numbers but the last 2-3 will be fine once people catch on to the fact that it's happening.

>>8281618
they waited all summer and fucked up, and showed irys who is a dud first. terrible planning.

>>8281814
The lameness of her debut was really endearing and created memorable memes that have stuck to this day though.
Korone's debut had minutes of awkward silence, weird creepy BGM, info slides that looked like she was making them in Paint on Windows 95, and she had to call Fubuki and Okayu for tech support in the middle of the stream while having a nervous breakdown.

>>8281739
its a bit funny that Korone,Pekora and Miko who had an absolute shit start managed to become some of the biggest hitters in hololive and vtubing as a whole

>>8281618
Nah, they will be fine. Hell, knowing Cover's luck of falling into success this will somehow end up being a massive buff.

>>8281814
>I laughed my ass off because I've seen 5th graders using old fashioned transparencies in those slide machines doing a better job
That was literally the joke.

>>8282138
This is a really beautiful piece of history, thanks for sharing.

>>8282167
If this shitshow somehow turns into another showcase of Yagoo's EX luck I will literally kneel in front of his picture.

>>8282138
There was a thread once that stated "go into the archives and find the first mention of your oshi"

Insearched for Miko since she is my oshi and the first post I found was from sept. 2018 I believe and it said something like "will anybody ever watch this horribly unpopular Sakura Miko?" Well look where she is now.

I'll try to find the post in a couple hours when I get off work if anybody cares by then, lol.

>>8282138
lmao

>>8282167
>copium intensifies
they fucked up and people are going back to school this week. they also fucked up any chance of riding the relay buff.

Hard to determine where EN Gen2 would be if not for the sub reduction (pic).

>>8282362
ogey Niji Nigger Sorry you're furious

>>8282334
It gets even better when you realise the "adoptions" they're talking about are Miko and Suisei

People samefag so hard in these threads and spew the same bullshit.

>8282450
Oh man i'm absolutely FUMING that Cover killed the little hype they had lmao

Reminder that Kuzuha also started out from nothing. He had less viewers than holos from the same period. Truly an inspirational KING.

>>8282138
I sometimes wonder if these anons are still around and posting, I started in the very late days of /vyt/ just before the Niji and Holo threads split off which probably makes me more of an oldfag than 99% of this board and I can't imagine how those guys feel about how much everything blew up since then

>>8282587
Some of them are the ones running around /vt/ screaming about holobronies.

>>8282572
Neat. Still no desire to watch Tokyo Ghoul with less subs than Gura.

>>8282587
There is a hardcore Ai-fag that posts sometimes that despises both Holo and Niji. Pretty sure he is from that era, lol.

>>8279036
To be fair, Matsuri streamed at 8am here, which is like 3am for the burgers

>NijiEN is a failed branch
>Niji posters spend their day with Hololive living rent free in their heads 24/7

>>8282587
probalby fuming about newfags and complaining that hololive got to big despite shitting on them for being small at the start

ohnononono

>>8282647
no shot

>>8282741
>Taking sub numbers serious when Susan gutted them every other hour

>>8282572
2018 Mito was so absurdly powerful for her time

>>8282676
>coping with dead subs
Like clockwork.

>>8282819
Still less subs, will never catch up. Sorry Tokyo Ghoul

I wonder if YouTube took extra measures to temporarily shadowban EN gen2 when the streams were first being listed, as Cover bailed soon afterward. Was just wondering Cover seen something wrong on their end relating to YouTube?

>>8282966
I wonder if their subs will continue to get hit since they all put frames up. DUnno if that will placate the AI

>>8282966
Doesn't seem likely since if there was any shadowbans the fans checking the streams would've found it sooner than Cover could. Ceres was the only one who didn't put up a stream and not tweeting about it seems to indicate she doesn't have internet access at the moment, not even via phone.

>>8282799
And then Manjisanji took over and Mito's channel died. A shame really.

>>8282966
They would never cancel a whole gen's debut streams at the last minute because of a shadowban, it must've been something more serious than that

>>8282788
how many times do you think they get gutted today now that debuts are on hold again

>>8282647
To be fair, that's a lot of people. Nijifags, Vshoujofags, even unityfags like me who're just sick of the tribalism and constant numberfagging.

>>8283166
Who fucking knows

>>8283146
Disagree, Cover are filthy jews.

>>8283123
She was bound to plateau at some point. Her content isn't exactly normie-friendly.

>>8282450
i'm not but Cover has been fucking up for a long time now, ask Coco.

Also her meme review last night was great, highly recommend it.

can we all praise ShibuyaHal as the king of numbers?
>NO company backing
>mogs both companies regularly

>>8283087
With all the shit YouTube was doing to their accounts, it’s not that unlikely they ran into a problem relating to YouTube. It could also explain why it absolutely had to be delayed.

>>8283176
People were seething about hololive on /jp/ long before they were putting up impressive numbers or had more than a handful of fans here. I'm convinced a lot of it was just anons trying to imitate 5ch.

>>8283429
Not to discredit his current work, but he did have company backing until mid to late 2020 to get him off the ground.

>>8283720
Upd8 was actively harming Hal's growth. In summer 2019, they gave him a new costume identical to Shibuya Hajime of Nijisanji, which made Hal get blasted by Niji fanbase for copying their liver. He made his name purely by networking and gameplay.

>>8284163
>Upd8
What's up with these people anyway, they could have been the biggest vtuber agency easily but it's like they're actively trying to fuck up as much as they can.

>>8278244

Is there any sc tracker? I'm curious if there are any chuubas who rack tons of cash while being lower on subs

>>8283429
What are his non tourney numbers tho

>>8284421
No need to worry yourself with those who are already dead, anon.

>>8282741
I hate to say this but this gen is a huge failure. Can't even get 100k predebut.
Graduation stream when?

>>8284483
Daily charts always get posted, there's an indie who made it on yesterday for hitting 10k subs and she made another $2.3k and will quite possibly make it for a second day in a row. Kagura Suzu from .LIVE/former idol-bu is the most superchatted vtuber with fewer than 100k subs with $308k and 88k subs. Probably the best ratio I've seen is Hinano Ui, with $163k total superchats and only 8k subs, more than all of Holo ID, Mel, and a lot of mid-tier Nijis

>>8282741
Bots detected

>>8283429
>king of numbers
NO! There is only one King and that's
>Kuzuha
and only one Queen and that's
>Pekora

Shibuya Hal can get a Prime Minister of Great Numbers title for all the good thing she did for the industry

>>8285569
>best company male
Kuzuha
>best company female
Pekora
>best with no help
Hal

>>8285604
>best with no help
debatable, but even if it's true, categorizing number tops is a bit fishy.
I also can do something like:
>Best penguin from niji
Petra

Anon was right about Hakase fuyuki, Queen of graveyard shift

>>8285720
>Best penguin from niji
>Petra
HAHAHA

>blocks your path
NOTHING PERSONEL; KIDDO!

>>8285720
Everything is debatable. If we're going to start nitpicking, the best vtuber with no help would be an indie who has never collabed, who has never been clipped, who has designed and rigged their own models, etc.
Hal is one of the best examples of vtubers who got popular by their own merit. Another good example would be Gatchman V.

>>8285849
I, and anon before me, were talking about numbers. Plus, this is a number thread.
And yes, I agree that entertainment-wise, Cia is better than Petra, at least at the present day.

>>8284989
That's like $20 for every sub, how the fuck
Gura would have 60 million dollars

>>8286195
By 'debatable' I meant that many people think that Hal had company backing in a past.
I am not one of those people, because I didn't research this topic.

>>8285604
>hal
>best with no help
this is like you claiming you did a project all by yourself when in reality you had to hire 10 people to aid you with it

>>8286369
Who did Hal hire to do all the work for him?

Why didn't Kuzuha sing the banpaia song now that I think of it? Does he hate numbers?

>>8286873
He has a cover on the way, he put a privated vid in his uttatemita playlist but removed it

>>8280735
>check out the other Flare because I have nothing better to do
>90% of the content is APEX and Pokemon Unite
Yeah, even 5k sub indies play what seems to be the default trash.

>>8283429
Right, check in on him when there is no Apex tournament and he is struggling to hit 1k viewers.

>>8286195
>Another good example would be Gatchman V.
huh? dudes had a massive game review channel before he did the vtuber thing and its mostly a side thing for him

in an alternate timeline, Yagoo got Kuzuha instead of Nijisanji, and Holostars became the biggest thing ever rather than a debuff.

>>8286873
he hates singing and effort

>>8287672
Nearly all his non tournament apex streams in the off season do 14k to 18k live viewers anon.

>>8288062
Naw, the debuff off being a lower brand overshadowed by females idols would have ruined him regardless of his talent.

>>8288105
Really? I don't believe you.
I believe the other anon >>8287672

>>8288062
>Kuzuha with no Kanae to force him out of his shell
Yeah no.

I doubt Gura is contributing to those views at all since her viewers hate collabs. Literally just Ina and Irys boosting Kiara, otherwise it would be a little higher.

>>8288019
True, but he gained most of his followers with his own efforts.

>>8286495
It really wouldn't be that unusual for him to still have support staff. A lot of the bigger 'indie' twitch streamers have a manager, pay their chat mods, etc.

>>8287672
>>8288105
>>8288248
I went on Playboard and picked out a few random streams of his from May-July and it looks like he usually gets 8-12K for Apex and 1-2K for random stuff like Rune Factory.

>>8288172
Also, what if Cover didn't debuff Holostars? Astel is an Apex player who is good and a great singer. He could do so much better in Nijisanji.

>>8288830
What if talk doesn't belong in a numbers thread.

>>8288830
this shit is all you mfs know
>what if cover didn't do this and that, holostars would be so much bigger than niji males blablabla what if so and so was in niji instead of holostars he would totally outview kuzuha blablabla i suck unwashed dicks in walmart parking lots for money
newsflash you faggot: this is reality not a what-if fanficland scenario. astel is in holostars, he's there to stay and so are the others. you don't even watch holostars so stop bringing up this stupid talking point, it never brings any discussion anyway and always ends the same.

>Lyrica graduating
How big will be her sendoff. Also
>Anyone knows why?

>>8288500
I can confirm that I am watching Kiara's POV as a chumbud, so your theory is bad

A Korone youtube clip was posted on r/livestreamfail yesterday. The clip is 22 seconds and it had 13000+ views. Those views increased the video total views. (View trends from playboard)

>>8289294
It's been over a month since the NijiEN wave 3 audition ended, so I guess it's possible she's going there (along with any other relatively big indies who mysteriously disappear this month).

>>8289294
>Anyone knows why?
Except for the small possibility of IRL circumstances forcing it there's only one reason for a successful indie to graduate, and that's to join one of the corpos, probably Niji EN in this case

R-Rosemi...

>>8282334
>>8282138

Its almost unreal to me that doomposters have been active for over 3 years finding anything to hate and constantly being disappointed. What kind of person do you have to be to live like that?

>>8290595
What about Rosemi?
Her current cuphead stream has better numbers than previous cuphead stream.
Yes, the numbers are not that impressive, but she's inclining nonetheless.

>>8278690
Suityan 3D? That's a can't miss.

>>8279327
Reminder Migochi also hosted the first half of Suichan's 3D.

>>8282465
Best pickups ever

Insider sources are saying the new debut date will be mid-late September. Probably more than just a tropical storm rrat...

>>8278244
lost because pekora wasnt in

>>8288830
If he was in nijisanji he’d be hated like hell

>>8291036
>Her current cuphead stream has better numbers than previous cuphead stream.
Whoever pulled 3 digits on cuphead should be ashamed

>>8291408
Would those insider sources be the inside of anon's ass?

>>8291510
It's on the discords I'm not spoonfeeding

>>8291613
>It's on the discords
OH! That seems legit, thanks for giving sources, it is still not related to numbers, have you tried the rrat thread?

>>8290595
Oh yeah Tomoshika is still a thing.

>>8291408
The fact that they won't commit to a date tells us that it's more than a storm or tech issue. Both of those things can be reasonably planned around.
This reeks of yab...

>>8291753
Aloe EN version

>>8291753
Yeah, one of the bitches graduated.

>>8291613
No need for spoonfeeding. Spread your sweet ass, anon, I'm gonna look for those sources myself.

>>8288500
Why do chumbuds hate collabs? I don't understand what you are trying to say.

>>8286195
>Hal got popular by his own merit
>only if we completely forget the fact he was signed into Upd8
Newfags I swear

>>8291613
>It's on the discords
lmao

>>8291826
Which one?

>>8291753
they fired the rat that was apparently here

>>8291976
Aloe.

>>8291941
I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS

>>8291613
Is this the state of /vt/ nowadays, importing rrats from Discord?

>>8291753
They're all joking about it on Twitter except the one who should be asleep right now. Either someone's computer broke or Susan fucked them again somehow

>reading superchats for 7 hours, literally staying awake all night doing it
I kneel to this man's endurance.

>>8291880
Facts.
But let's be honest, his success is based on 95% of his own efforts, and 5% of corporate efforts.
Unlike someone like Pekora or Gura, who have completely opposite numbers.

>>8292004
Zoomers and discord have infected everywhere on the internet. It's unavoidable and tragic.

>>8292103
>Zoomers and discord have infected everywhere
>said zoomer

>>8278949
>>8279036

Good posts. I can see the big numbers just by skimming through the top lists, but these take some efforts to find and are interesting in their own right. In fact, more interesting than the big numbers, since they are going to be the big events and collabs of the day, Kuzuha & Pekora, rounded up by the usual suspects depending a bit on who streams and what they stream that day.

>>8292002
Kek

>>8291880
>Upd8 is the reason why Hal is successful.
Everyone with a brain knows this is not the case. If anything, Upd8 hampered his growth.

>>8291880
>Upd8

>>8291880
>anything good coming out of upd8
are you sure (You)'re not the newfag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKG-ToSVYQ4
predict

>>8294870
75k peak

>>8294870
That's their answer for Apesex tournament huh. Sure 3rd gen is the strongest but I can't see this beating Apex.

>>8296246
isn't the tournament at 6

>>8294870
One PoV? 60-70k

>>8296911
All 5 have povs. HC MC has also been a debuff for all those streaming it except Marine and Flare's first stream of it.

>>8296964
A bit lower than 40-50k viewers if nothing unusual, but if Pekora/Marine becomes the last standing one... then 60-70k!

Was super disappointed that EN2 didn't debut today. Now, we're gonna face a week full of Kuzushitposters hitting 1M next week. He's at 974k atm, so it's highly likely he'll get another 3-4k from the tourney today or a 3D live planned for next week to boost him up to 1M by the end of the week. It's not gonna be apex nor a 3D debut, but how likely is it for him to beat Fuwa's record?

>>8298314
> how likely is it for him to beat Fuwa's record?
Well assuming he does a 3D live, it probably will because I don't think Kuzuha has ever done a 3D live where he's the main focus, so the novelty factor is definitely there. Most of his 3D performances are as part of an ensemble. He's also on the hottest streak I've seen for a vtuber since Oct-Nov 2020 Gura.

If he just does a normal 1mil celebration stream, 70k? That seems to be about right for the first Niji to hit 1 mil. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets $150k+ in SCs, Kuzuha is a big money earner.

He's in a very unique situation where he's the first Niji to hit the milestone and he's red hot right now from all his celeb collabs and VSaikyou hype with him as the main POV. It's pretty ridiculous how big the gap is between him and the 2nd biggest Niji.

>>8298314
> how likely is it for him to beat Fuwa's record?
Well assuming he does a 3D live, it probably will because I don't think Kuzuha has ever done a 3D live where he's the main focus, so the novelty factor is definitely there. Most of his 3D performances are as part of an ensemble. He's also on the hottest streak I've seen for a vtuber since Oct-Nov 2020 Gura. Pekora and Marine have also had super hot streaks, but not "at least 36k+ for a whole week of streams leading into a potential 70k+ tournament peak, after gaining 50k subs in a week" hot.

If he just does a normal 1mil celebration stream, 70k? That seems to be about right for the first Niji to hit 1 mil. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets $150k+ in SCs, Kuzuha is a big money earner.

He's in a very unique situation where he's the first Niji to hit the milestone and he's red hot right now from all his celeb collabs and VSaikyou hype with him as the main POV. It's pretty ridiculous how big the gap is between him and the 2nd biggest Niji. At least in HoloJP, Pekora and Marine are neck and neck, with many other top Holos close behind. If 30k is the new normal for Kuzuha Apex, then he'll be 3x Kanae, the 2nd place Niji who streams consistently.

>>8299395
Kanae is usually below Mito and Ago in CCV, sometimes even Lize and Ange

Sakusan, your numbers...

She burned out really quickly.

>>8299622
Why is she not in Vsaikyou anyways?

>>8299574
Mito and Ago don't stream enough for me to consider them "consistent" but you're right otherwise. Lize is comparable, but I think Ange only gets close to Kanae during talk streams (~9k I think).

Regardless, even if you use Mito and Ago, Kuzuha's gap between them is massive.

>>8299622
The Japanese equivalent of a pump and dump.

>>8299395
In some ways he’s more comparable to Gura than to Pekora, I mean if we are talking about YouTube increases beyond just the live viewers.

>>8299622
>6 mins in
Well at least give her an hour, maybe she'll get up to 2k, which is a lot for an indie.

>>8298314
>how likely is it for him to beat Fuwa's record?
100% Kuzuha is super buffed right now. Theres apex collab with Hal and Hikakin later this month too.

>>8298314
>>8299395
The non-kneelers will be btfo. Simple as. Kuzuha's incline literally cannot be stopped. It's inevitable for him to surpass Peko now.

Today's superchats

>>8299972
>Theres apex collab with Hal and Hikakin later this month too.
The last one peaked at ~49k I believe, probably because it was 1 stream sharing 3 POVs so it was a nightmare to watch. In VCC a few days later where Kuzuha was with Ryosuke Yamada, Hikakin only got 9.4k. Could still mean big numbers for Kuzuha and Hal since it's a big stream, but idk if it'll be that big. His numbers for Vsaikyou are going to be crazy tho, since he raised his scrim peak from usually 35k to 48k this time. That Hikakin collab raised him and Hal's profile a lot it seems.

>>8300152
Kind of amazing that Lamy gets that much in superchats, mostly for a stream that is reading the previous superchats.

>>8300285
And here she is, almost overtaking bintroll on worldwide superchats.

>>8300285
Zatsus are usually SC farms, but getting $11k from a 3k audience talking about nothing special is quite impressive.

>>8300285
Because she's a greedy bitch who didn't turn it off unlike Leos. Leos spent 7 hours reading past ones with it turned off.

>>8300080
well, he already rekt Peko.

>>8300354
I have no idea what Bintroll is but I hate them for cluttering the top of the JP chart with a non-chuuba and I hate Playboard for not fixing the v-tuber category or letting us make our own custom charts

>>8300419
If she keeps this up, I think she will be in the top 5 within a year.
Aqua is an easy target, because she lost a lot of her fanbase due to various reasons
It's possible that she overtakes Marine too, but that would be difficult. She has started a new phase of inclining recently. I think Marine will take third place from Pekora pretty soon.
Obviously Coco is going to get overtaken in a few months by Rushia, but it will be a long time before she loses second place.

>>8300498
With Koshien/scrim buff though. That's not Marine's typical number either since it's almost like she was trying to inflate her CCV on purpose this month. The best "rekt" yet was his Idol Manager VOD, a debuff game he streamed in the dead of the night beating Pekocraft VOD with similar duration.

>>8300896
>if Gura beats Pekora views
VOD views don't count, CCV is king
>is Kuzuha beats Pekora VOD views
Get rekt Pekorrat, Holobronies cope and dilate

>>8300152
Lamy - ??? she's just a monster honestly
Suisei - mini live and concert announcement
Gura - played Minecraft, honestly not sure how she got so much
Pika - hit 500k
Gachiman - looks like he collabed with some big NND name, not gonna look too deep into it though
Kokoro - 3.0 update
Kanaru - hit 10k subs (that's a LOT for someone with 10k subs, she was on there yesterday too)
Subaru - zatsu and FF7, not sure if there's a reason she got more than usual
Watame - singing stream and late SCs for concert announcement
kson - is kson
Miyabi - hit 100k, now all the homos have
Okayu - sang
>>8300700
I believe this month Lamy overtook Kanata for the year so far and maybe even Pekora, so with Coco gone at this rate it'll eventually be just Rushia and Marine ahead of her, but it's also going to take YEARS for anyone other than Rushia to overtake Coco's absurd lead

>>8300700
>Aqua is an easy target, because she lost a lot of her fanbase due to various reasons
I don't think Aqua really lost her fans, she just doesn't stream much at all these days. It'll take a few weeks of consistently streaming again before her numbers pick up.

>>8301283
Gura - first superchat reading since the "bug" was fixed

>>8301122
Ya, that's why you ignore these clowns LOL.
The new "explanation" for Gura's VOD views is chumbuds viewbotting now btw.

>>8300498
Funny how Pekora mogs him on a monthly basis before. Give it up, he's winning now because of the buffs. July and August is his to take, but not the remaining months in the year.

>>8301321
Yeah this, she still makes very good money when she streams it's just that her frequency has been a lot lower this year
>>8301373
Ahh I see thanks, amazing to think that happened for so long while looking at all this money that Susan is siphoning off 30% of

>>8300498
Looks like they're both irrelevant compared to Marine.

>>8301283
>Gura - played Minecraft, honestly not sure how she got so much
It's simple, she said that she will read SC and the SCs come in.

>>8299622
So this is how apex hype dies huh

>>8301690
Not Apex hype - rrats of her being a Chink company Chuuba basically killed her career. It was almost a miracle Uto bounced back from her own rrats of being Chin-supported, but tbf Uto confessed that she was but has since left the company.

>>8301122
I think Kuzuha can be more or less compared to Gura in VOD views now though. That Idol Manager VOD really surprised me. It can be compared with her DMC3 VOD.

>>8301834
Her fans were also eops

>>8284163
>Upd8 was actively harming Hal's growth. In summer 2019, they gave him a new costume identical to Shibuya Hajime of Nijisanji, which made Hal get blasted by Niji fanbase for copying their liver.
Why the fuck you eop holobrony is like this? you don't know shit but talking with confidence. His costume was identical to Kinotabi MC

>>8301890
she literally doesn't have an entry in the eop vtuber wiki

kuzuha fans are starting to be more cancerous than chumbuds

>>8301932
Oh come on lmfao, her chat is still 90% english despite trying to cultivate more of a japanese fanbase
>>8302203
I'm still 99% certain there isn't a single genuine Kuzu fan in this thread and never has been

>>8302203
>Kuzuha fans
Don't exist in this board. Kuzuha posters only live to shitpost his numbers and to make non-regulars think he's singlehandedly making Hololive recline

after vtuber apex Kuzuha has another apex scrim till sat next week then 3Dlive?

>>8302203
There's no Kuzuha fans here. Just numberniggers who only like him because he can beat Hololive.

>>8302279
Since when did Sakusan have EOPs in chat

>>8299659
Nobody actually thinks of her as a vtuber

>>8301883
Do you have the VOD views for that idol stream when he has done streaming? I would like to see his VOD growth. For example, most of his Apex VOD views are coming from viewer churn between each match but this one is interesting.

>>8302292
I don’t know where you people got this idea from but hes not doing a 3d live any time soon

>>8302450
Kuzuha idol manager

>peakviews / views at end of stream / vod views gain / stream duration / time(JST)
>16,558 / 292 019 / ???,??? / 6h43m50s / 02:47 - 09:31
source: https://twitter.com/2434rankings/status/1428515732531269633

>>8302203
dyrb the people shitposting about kuzuha are kuzuha fans when pretty much none of them have any idea how his numbers usually work and they're always spamming the same images when talking about him?

>>8302450
Playboard isn't perfect so take with a pinch of salt.

Kuzuha idol manager:
https://playboard.co/en/video/32Ml6Z3dKks
Duration: 6:43:52
Peak CCV: 16k, but was around 14k for the most part
Ended at 300k
170k the next day
20k the day after

Pekora HC MC:
https://playboard.co/en/video/ayn6ttVJXe8
Duration: 5:41:21
Peak CCV: 25k. but was around 21k for the most part
Ended at 322k
75k the next day

Gura DMC3:
https://playboard.co/en/video/aAPSCyFo6Ks
Duration: 4:19:44
Peak CCV: 14k for split second, 12k for the most part
Ended at 210k
101k the day after
10-20k everyday since.

>>8302630
Hmm, It has grown about 70% views, weird tho. His Apex VOD doesn't have this kind of growth, maybe people checking it out because it's new stuff coming from him.

>>8302279
>>8302284
>>8302346
They might not be hardcore Kuzuha fans, but there are some anons (mostly holofags like 90% of the board) that like him and genuinely try to deep dive into his numbers.You can tell from the way they type.
If they use words like "kneel", "mog", "King", type absolute nonsense, or use inflammatory language, you know they're just kuzushitposters.

>make non-regulars think he's singlehandedly making Hololive recline
For the record, there's barely any overlap between Kuzuha viewers and Hololive viewers. There's no inverse relationship where one side is stealing viewers from the other.

>>8301283
>Gura - honestly not sure how she got so much
I only watch Gura occasionally so I guess I don't watch her enough to know what it meant. Maybe an actually chumbud could help me out.

During her stream yesterday she got a massive wave of $20 super chats all saying something along the lines of "Ok Gura, paying my fine now". What is this about? Some kind of findom thing?

>>8302883
Typically for long stream (or all streams honestly), youtube doesn't get the view number right instantly. It takes a few hours to stabilize.
For this stream in particular, he gained 170k views the next day so it was probably people checking the VOD since they couldn't watch him in the middle of the night.

>>8303030
i honestly don't care who beats who but i'm interested in the individual growth of chuubas so even though there's shitposts to comb through it's nice that some people are also genuinely trying to look at his stats.

>>8302203
THE KING
THE LORD
THE EMPEROR
THE TERMINATOR
THE BANE OF IDOL EMPIRE
THE NEMESIS OF HOLOLIVE REIGN
THE PROTECTOR OF MALE VTUBERS
KING KUZUHA

>>8302759
>peak views / views at end of stream / vod views(views gained) / stream duration / time(JST)

>Kuzuha idol manager / 16,558 / 292,019 / 494,829(+202,810) / 6h43m50s / 02:47 - 09:31

>Pekora HC MC/ 25,398 / 275,894 / 404,908(+129,014) / 5h41m20s / 23:01 - 04:43

>Gura DMC3 / 14,580 / 192,336 / 376,807(+184,676) / 4h19m44s / 09:33 - 13:52

>>8303150
You should go ask that in /ggg/. Not sure if there's any "chumbud" here.

>>8303325
thanks

>>8303030
>You can tell from the way they type.
You cannot actually. Some people get butthurt over numbers, so that when they’re on top again, they really rub it in. Which itself creates a cycle of hate.

>>8303325
As I was typing out the Playboard stats, it became more and more obvious that the DMC3 Gura stream wasn't a good comparison.

The only thing comparable between Idol Manager and DMC3 is the similar "low" CCV. Gura's stream was 2.5 hours shorter than Kuzuha's.

>>8303150
Karaoke "fees" - people were jokingly donating money because they "forgot" to pay for her Gawr Karaoke

>>8303030
Your statement does not make sense. Your saying holofags are calling him King even though you admit there is no overlap between what a regular Holofag would watch. I'm a holofag but I would rather watch Hal, Bora, Qu and Gorilla than Kuzuha for actual Apex gameplay. What is this cope. It's fine to admit you have an active retard that insists in calling his favorite King no matter how cringe it is

>>8303511
I mean some anons like >>8299395 are more neutral in the way they type.
And then you get >>8300080, where it's obvious he's a shitposter.

>>8303692
>If they use words like "kneel", "mog", "King", type absolute nonsense, or use inflammatory language, you know they're just kuzushitposters.
No, holofags are not the ones calling him "King". Mb if it was confusing.

>>8303511
there's just a handful of trolls who pick whoever has big numbers and use them for bait posts. ibrahim minecraft project, fuwa minato 3D, shibuya hal vsaikyou - those have all been used by people who didn't understand the context of the large numbers at all, so obviously they're not fans. the posts were also deliberately inflammatory in nature. butthurt fans probably exist but they're not the ones making those posts and you can tell.

>>8303692
Do you not know what shitposting is how long have you been on this site. It’s the same shit with the gura posters

>>8303768
Don't forget the anon who always links the Tomoe 3D debut screenshot and uses her SCs to shit on Anya of all people. I think it's the same anon tho.

As a numberchad I started watching Kuzuha mostly to track his numbers. Pekora used to be my queen, but with Kuzuha overperforming so much lately I've no choice but to kneel to him and accept him as my king now.

>>8302346
>Just numberniggers who only like him because he can beat Hololive.
Similar to how some use Pekora, while they probably also don’t watch her. However, they both are supporting Kuzuha and Pekora to “win” for their side. It’s still a sort of fan, even if for nontypical reasons.

Example: Niji EN is doing badly and they’re tried of hearing about it, so they promote Kuzuha as their champion to shut up the opposition. After supporting Kuzuha here, they probably go back to watching Selene.

>>8303885
yeah, same genre of bait post that's definitely not made by a fan (like seriously? anya vs tomoe?). and as long as anons keep replying they will keep doing it. kuzuha is just particularly easy to use.

>>8303762
>>8303768
Read this >>8303953

>>8303953
>Niji EN is doing badly
Only in the deranged minds of this thread lol, they are doing exceptionally well by both general vtuber and Niji's own standards.

>>8304001
so you agree the posts aren't made by pekora or kuzuha's fans

>>8303953
You can’t be a fan of someone you don’t even understand

Only two streams today worth watching, Hachaama Reddit with Ollie & Gen 3 MC hardcore. Might watch Astel Apex today.

8303909
Do you realize how cringey you sound. We're in 4chan sure but damn

Do you realize you could just not respond to bait

>>8284421
upd8 was not that bad at all just eop holobronies spreading rrats so that cover doesnt look like the worst black company it is

>>8303150
>>8303665
It was this
https://youtu.be/34qwR8XmkiI?t=3981
>You guys are lying to me? I'm gonna have to fine you for that.
>Expect a fine of uh... 20 bucks

>>8303953
I'm not denying there are some butthurt NijiEN fans in these threads, but they're rare. Tribalposting NijiEN is a futile cause in a numbers thread anyways, they're outnumbered and their numbers are "bad".

The ones using Kuzuha to shitpost now are the same ones that used Pekora to shitpost Gura for months. Did you forget how cancerous these threads were when it was "chumbuds" vs "nousagis" daily? Those baitposters have moved on to Kuzuha because he's on fire right now, while Pekora is cooling off.

>>8304035
Well I probably shouldn’t have used the word “badly”, but it was an example to make a greater point. They’re being told that they are doing badly, and Kuzuha becomes their champion.
>>8304077
>so you agree the posts aren't made by pekora or kuzuha's fans
I think it’s still sort of a fan, insomuch as they’ve cheering them on. Maybe not a typical fan.

reclining...

>>8304171
it's really just this. it's not a difficult concept.
>>8304182
that's not what a fan is and you're dumb as bricks.

>>8304182
That’s not what fan means

>>8304182
>cheering them on
Cheering on someone you don't actually like/watch just so you can rub in big numbers on a anonymous thread that usually peaks at 70 IPs is EXTREMELY pathetic.

I'm not saying holofags are innocent of this and they're pathetic if they do this too, but at least Hololive boxpushing means they're more likely to actually like Pekora at least.

>>8304346
except they're not actually cheering for him they're just doing it for easy (You)s which they get almosy every time. it takes seconds to save someone else's screenshot and repost it in /#/ with a caption that has the buzzwords king, kneel, holokiller whatever.

>>8304171
>The ones using Kuzuha to shitpost now are the same ones that used Pekora to shitpost Gura for months.
I disagree. They can be people who just hate EN, they can be Niji, they can even be Holo fans who like one of the other girls in Holo EN (who are tired of hearing about Gura), and still feel the need to do it. It’s not something you can actually know.

>>8304346
I don’t think they’re even Nijisanji fans in the first place - just dumb kids with too much free time on their hands who think it’s fun to rile people here up. It’s a common poster type all over the site

>>8304444
well yeah but the point is they're not doing this in good faith or because they're fans of pekora/kuzuha/whoever.

>>8304444
>They can be people who just hate EN, they can be Niji, they can even be Holo fans who like one of the other girls in Holo EN (who are tired of hearing about Gura),
All of these people can fit under the umbrella of
>The ones using Kuzuha to shitpost now are the same ones that used Pekora to shitpost Gura for months.
They're just trying to rile people up and bait (you)s.

>>8304506
My only point is they’re cheering them on, and likely deriving some enjoyment from their numbers alone. I admit that is different than someone who enjoys watching them. It’s far more tribal, and about winning for a side.
>>8304602
Those are different groups with different motivations. I wish it truly was simple, but it isn’t.

It’s sad that this is something that has to be explained to the people in this thread like they’re five when if they justt looked around the site more and used their brains they wouldn’t have to question it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such naive posters before

>>8304834
>deriving some enjoyment from their numbers alone
the enjoyment comes from anons replying to their shit bait

get shit on reddit eop trash

>>8305641
RIINU GET BEHIND ME

>shitposting
>ironic shitposting
>bait posting
>replying to bait
We've been over this, bruised and battered wives...
We've been over this...

>>8305641
How do we un-save Sutopuri, they're too good

>>8308105
have an announcement stream of a member coming out as heterosexual

>>8304234
>Not posting the total views for the new karaokes
I could not find any final viewcount for the bardcore karaoke... I tried.
It should be around 250k~ish

>>8305641
>Facecam
>Better numbers whe she use live 2d
I feel she will sooner than later will go full facecam streamer and leave vtubing on the side.

>>8304147
Every time I read a post like this it just makes me think that anyone who uses the term "holobronies" is genuinely mentally ill.

Day feels pretty slow
Are there no major events today aside from ShibuHal's Vtuber Apex tourney?

>>8310630
Gen 3 MC HC

>>8309143
Karaoke streams have people tab out a lot, they can listen to her singing without having to paying attention to what's going on so CCV isn't accurate all the time. Even her numbers of Likes are more accurate.

>>8310909
I wonder if Premium counts ccv during karaoke when you're not opening the stream on mobile

>>8310909
Holocope

>>8310755
Predictions:
With all 5 alive
Pekora: 20k
Marine: 20K
Rushia: 10k
Noel :9k
Flare :7k
With more as the challenge continues along. Redistribute according to deaths/who's left as they get closer to the END.

>>8279137
Probably 100k
Hololive fanbase is so big now

>>8314213
If their channels are still restricted (and they are), I doubt even 90k

>>8314123
Both Pekora and Marine pulled more than that even with a much more competitive slot. I wouldn’t doubt both hold 25k from their own audience alone

>>8314294
I'm setting it lower to start only because they're starting relatively early for Hololive streams. 5pm JST is a fine time to stream, but it's earlier than usual for many of their stream. Usually it's only Rushia that's nearly this early for Gen3.

>>8314339
They usually continue inclining for the duration and, because this is “to the end”, assuming they’ll go all the way to the dragon it may last long enough to cross all of their usual slots

Gura has really reclined hasn't she... Early numbers has shown that she was supposed to get 5 million subs befofe her 1st anniversary, now it seems like a miracle to even get 4 mil at this point.
What happened and where did it all go wrong?

Weird how she's only posted here when she gets bad numbers.

>>8282107
True scuff and she was the weakest for a year or so

>>8315235
It's almost like anons want to push their feminist narrative that Nijisanji hates women

mansanji

>>8315235
5k is bad numbers

>>8315235
She used to be 10k above

>>8314581
Vtubing is FOTM for the english speaking countries, also the lack of interaction and networking of the EN members killed them. I think most of the EN Vtubers actually reclined except for Vshojo... and Ina

>>8315235
It's almost like people here are only cherry-picking when they post Nijisanji females.

Jesas, gen 3 have made a whole intro movie for their damn hardcore minecraft stream.

>>8315925
they been practicing for this a lot.

>>8314581
>Early numbers has shown that she was supposed to get 5 million subs befofe her 1st anniversary
Wait, what numbers? Can you post it or is it just a prediction coming from you?

DEBUTS ARE A GO
I REPEAT, DEBUTS ARE A GO
FINAL YAB AVERTED, HYPE NOT TOALLY LOST.
PLACE YER BETS BOUS AND GALS, WHAT DO THEIR NUMBERS LOOK LIKE NOW?
https://mobile.twitter.com/hololive_en/status/1429352645198811140?s=21

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1429352643613188098?s=21
EN2 will debut soon

can they pull a delay number buff?
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1326692103871664129

>debut on Monday
It's over.

>>8315840
>Ina
She's reclining tho, from over 12k easily and now she can barely hit over 10k.

TICK TOCK NIJIKEKS. HOLOCOUNCIL IS BACK AND THEY ARE GONNA DESTROY NIJISANJI FOR BOTH TODAY AND TOMORROW.

>>8316301
these last 12 hours must've been really hard on you, anon. glad you can shitpost again.

>>8316235
>>8316259
It's not going to be as high as the 100k predictions. Too many things have gone wrong. It being Monday in Japan basically kills any chance JOPs are watching too. WTF is Cover doing announcing this updated time 9 hrs before Sana's debut after saying "indefinite delay" yesterday?

It's not completely doomed since it's a 6 hour relay so people can catch the news and tune in later, but Sana and maybe Kronii's numbers will not be that high.

So debut is after the tournament? Can it form like a relay ?

is there any Holo stream besides gen3 hardcore MC wich could get BEEG numbers?

>>8316364
I can understand the thought process of stating "Postponed until further notice" from a corp perspective. What if the issue isn't resolved as quickly as hoped? What if ANOTHER delay of a similar nature happens?
It's still bad though. Mostly this is gonna hit Sana and Kronii the worst, as >>8316364
stated.

>>8314123
might need to change that noel and flare

>>8314123
Pekora is already 32K

>>8314123
Pegora is already 33k

>>8314123
Never underestimate HoloFantasy ever again.

>>8315235
you know why
>manjisanji shitposting

>>8316301
Hal is going to get 110k+ tonight when everyone goes to his channel to check the results. Stop making the rest of us look like clowns with stupid ass predictions.

t.Holofag

>>8316437
>>8316490
>>8316514
Fuck me NOUSAGI WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS?!
Also I just noticed I put Noel above flare. WTF was that Past me? I KNOW Flare has been practicing and also has more 'Minecraft' presence, why did I put Noel above Flare?!

>>8316558
Look at this righteous asshole thinking that bait is anything to take seriously.

>>8316543
>Rushia
>Pekora
>Marine
>Flare
>Noel
all of them either over 1mil either Really good in MC either both.
some ppl just delusional

>>8316558
I remember last time was over 120K?

>>8316594
Nah, my brain is operating on no-coffee and I was still operating on HoloEN timezone factors.
I forget how much more goddamn autistic JPbros are when it comes to following their chubbas.
I was expecting these numbers further into the relay, not right at the start.

>>8316594
Also prep streams easily hype the events up.

>>8316572
>I put Noel above Flare?
classic newbie mistake
Noel 1mil sub +, but yeah.. Flare +MC is strong

35k for Pekora and remember its still hours before her usual time.

>>8316646
>timezone
this is 6pm sunday in JP

>>8316428
Look at the tweet, it's so brief that they probably rushed this out the moment they got confirmation all talents could stream at those times. The only other thing they could do is to announce a postponement until next weekend and I'm not sure that's a better idea.

>>8316558
Is Hal a Niji? HoloEN debut will destroy Kuzuha and that's more than enough.

>>8316678
It's Sunday for JP, my dude.

>>8316724
well, its happening. she has a stream up now kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iICu7NcUK4o

numberfag in me really happy that JP bross(nousagi) like collabs.. Unlike chumbuds

>>8316724
It probably only benefits EN2 "debut" but affects other schedules(including 2 weeks EN1 collab unbanned)

>>8316740
>HoloEN debut will destroy Kuzuha and that's more than enough.
Only an idiot would bet against Apex Tournament Kuzuha after seeing his scrim numbers in the past few days. Between that and HoloCouncil's scuffed debut, I'll believe it when I see it.

>>8316781
i bet this incident could help the hype

I wonder if Gen 3s MC stream can serve as a primer for EN2 like how yesterday's MC relay was suppose to? Maybe not for the nips since it's gonna be Monday their time but maybe for the EOPs? Also, Owl and rrat are definitely gonna be the highest viewed simply because they're gonna catch the early morning JP crowd.

30 minutes left.
The mogging is upon us...

>>8316816
Pekora is great at everything she does be it solo entertainment or interacting with fellow holomems.

>>8316678
The most important thing is no one else is going to be streaming for the next 4 hours it seems, except for the ones in Vsaikyou and they barely break 1k each. Seems like Gen 3 have all of prime time and beyond to themselves.

>>8316882
i wonder what number kuzukek will get if he somehow wins

>>8316816
That’s because Pekora is known for screening collabs and rejecting shitty ones. Her genmates talked about it on occasion, how she shuts down shitty ideas for collabs and only accepts the ones worthy her time.

Pekora treats streaming as her job (and it is) and has a professional standard she always upholds

>>8316938
Will the final be on Hal's Channel(the host)?

>>8316940
Pekora is truly an ideal streamer, always delivers the best for her fans.

>>8316861
hopefully because 'EN curse' meme. >>8316267
Gura postponed her karaoke and managed to get 120k ccv the day after.

>>8316940
>passion
>japanese mentality
sasuga number queen

>>8316543
The only two much higher than those estimates are Flare and Pekora though.

>>8316909
Yeah, apart from Apex and Azki, there's nothing else until chama at 9. None of which will take viewers in any appreciable amount.

>>8316976
No, it's just a bunch of matches and whichever scores the most total points wins. Everyone streams their own perspective. Kuzuha's one will be the most watched during the tournament and then at the end, everyone will flood to Hal's stream to check the results.

>>8316847
Nah, it depends on his performance. If his team plays like shit then his number is going to be low, and it might be low enough to lose to HoloEN debut(which I think they aren't gonna get low numbers at all, 80k will be the floor for the lowest girl, and 120k is very achievable despite the delay)

>>8316940
based. queen. i am blessed to live in age of pekora and kuzuha.

shibuhal 95k
kuzuha 45k-75k peak depending on performance

>>8317083
I'm actually doubting HoloEN2 will reach 80k, because I'm not really feeling the hype. Unless Sana pulls a Calli or Gura impression on debut, then it might reach over your estimate for the next girls.

40k-peko

>>8317005
I wonder how many streamer type will EN2 have?
Mori is amusic artist(not pure singer),Ina is a illustrator, Kiara is more like a host, Gura should be a video/clip maker. Only Ame is more like a streamer

>almost 100k
they really are the golden gen.

>>8315840
I agree, English fans care more about the clips than the live streams or vods with timestamps. Hololive EN should have gone to Twitch instead, in 6 months they will get even lower numbers

>>8317173
>Sana pulls a Calli
shitty technical difficulties?
hype around Calli was made by her EP during 1st week, not by her debu

>>8317083
On the day of Towa's 3D live, I watched Kuzuha go from 50k to 70k in a Koshien stream through a bunch of lucksack games to nearly beat her for biggest number of the day, when everyone thought there was no way he could close a 17k gap. Can't help but feel like this man is blessed to succeed LMAO.

Altho I guess he did get last place in his group in the actual Koshien event stream so he's not THAT lucky.

>>8317196
That's what I'm curious too, more utawaku chuubas would be great too. But I want a zatsudan focused streamer with the charisma of Ludwig or Etika to be invested in this gen.

>>8317342
is already time for a ASMR en streamer

>>8317196
Sana is almost certainly an illustrator (Speculated Namie, a friend of Ina's roommate from what people were saying)
Kronii is Sera (2view, self-dox'd due to 'toofast' release of fanart from a friend of hers)
The other 3 range from 'Hopeful guesses (Hana = Ceres') to outlandish/??? (Mumei = Asp from /HERE/, Rrat = Kyoresu)
For their numbers sake, there really, really, really needs to be a Minecrarft Autist to help drive the EN server forward, and a general gaming autist that's at least as 'generally skilled' as Aqua is to fill the gaps that HoloEN has right now.
>>8317224
I kneel to the golden gen. As someone who only got in at the start of the year (circling but only got pulled in after watching the Suisei mini-doc), their numbers and hard work are inspiring.

>>8317388
>is already time for a ASMR en streamer
Mori's cursed ASMR not good enough for you???

12 mins until Vsaikyou. If we ever needed more proof that there's barely any overlap between Apex autists and holofags, this is it.

>>8317342
>charisma
with this any streamer can be "zatsudan focused", so it is hard to predict.
we can say that Sana will be artist, Nature will be ASMR soft voice streamer, Civ will be shy1..
but it is hard to tell who will be good in zatsu.
Kiara is kida good at it but her numbers suck

>>8317262
No shit. RIP trended on JP and weeb twittersphere when it dropped, and I bet most who were just checking out her debut stream recommended the next ones to their friends or whatever.

>>8279387
FUCK YOU HENRY

The biggest stream of the day will be ShibuyaHal.

Yes, this includes debuts. SCREENSHOT THIS

>>8317430
Does Kiara ever do a zatsu only stream?
If she begin with debuff game, she can never have a good number even with zatsu.

>>8317224
was expecting a little bit higher for marine but Minecraft is not a buff for her

EN2 debut floor is more like 50k, they don't have the curiosity factor bringing in tourists that HoloMyth being the first big English vtuber project had, they'll be lucky to hit 80k let alone 100k

>>8317430
Kiara is somewhat a great speaker and storyteller yes, but I'm not gonna put her voice as my background radio noise while I'm working because of her chickenshit voice.

>>8317509
She has 22k right now. The "problem" is she's streaming with Pekora who has 42k and the rest of gen 3 have 10k each.

Enter. ShibuyaCHAD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znopYXcWXtQ

>>8317224
40k+ is the real number. Everyone but Pekora is just another opened tab depending on viewer's preference. Pekora is the default POV. Combining the viewers is a cope.

Something i noticed is that the girls are now gaining 100 subs every 3 to 5 min.
this didnt happen yesterday when the schedule was announced or after it was anoucned they were ate 100subs every 10-15min.
im going to go for something youtube related for why it was delayed.

>>8317571
Given the prevalence of mobile/device users "Just open another tab" isn't an option, and there's a LOT of mobile users in JP.
Adding them up isn't quite right, but it is fair to consider that it's more than just the numbers for Pekora.

>>8317602
Youtube prevented Ceres from making a stream, Cover tried to contact them over the weekend and finally got a real human to talk to them just hours ago?

>>8317602
bots

>>8317507
>Does Kiara ever do a zatsu only stream?
she interacts with her chat A LOT, so almost every stream of her is zatsu+ her SC reading is basiclly classical zatsu (im not sure about her mem streams). as she said she most likely will never do zatsu only streams(with no theme) because she is afraid ppl who think she is supper talkative person will be desapointed

>>8317529
Not getting higher debut numbers than their senpais would be a failure for Myth's part on maintaining interest in their brand, and that would be a shame. I'm just hoping that Cover struck gold in this gen once again so that the English vtubing industry could go on.