/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>8226376
Yeah. next question

Yes, because she is small and can be easily overpowered in a sexual scenario.

I don't think she'll be beaten in subs tho.

>>8226467
By who? What would it take?

>>8226376
No because Ame isn't actually into girls

>>8226376
fubuki english is waiting to happen
inb4 he thinks fubuki doesnt know english

>>8226490
someone, at sometime later. Do I look like a prophet to you Anonchama? She'll get dethorned just like Ai was a while back. What, do you think talents stay popular forever retard?

>>8226588
Pewds is on ten years...

>>8226588
>he doesn’t know that vtubers are just a fad here to stay just a few more years

>>8226697
Fine, if you want me to go full shcizo I'll bite.

Gura is carried by a few things that are not permanent;
1: Her internet humour / backlog of olds memes is due to her being socially retarded as a kid and spending all her time on the web. That is not a permanent well.
2: Currently, small loli body is the anime standard and thus she is still carried by that fact. This is not a permanent trend.
3: Her voice and singing ability is good, however it's good due to it's uniqueness out there. That is also tied to time as the longer she is popular, the more similar sounding "women" will try vtubing out.
4: She is constantly self destructing, the only thing really keeping the train on the tracks is her fans literally willing it to. Alcholism, mental health issues, as well as incredibly low selfesteem makes her relateable but is not good for prolong exposure to fame. See IRL celebs dealing with that.

Pewds exists and has survived due to him jumping early onto the game as well constantly improving and changing his content with the times. Gura has not. She has improved, and her content has changed slightly, but she is no longer trying to learn new things. She could remain on the top if she tried, but she won't. She can't. She never built the toolset needed to deal with it as her fame in both lives basically came overnight. I saw the past life go from 50k to almost 1 million due to a few good meme songs.

I will not reply to this. There's no point to. Gura will one day fall from the throne. Years? Maybe. Months? Hell no. Based on social trends and experience seeing creators rise and fall, she probably has 3 years left. Give or take 2 years depending on loli love and a challenger not approaching randomly.

>>8226993
I mean I was baiting a bit as I'm sure you could of sensed and agree with you on most points. But I will say I'm eager to see if she can evolve to keep it fresh

>>8226376
Yes. By me

>>8226376
>will she ever be topped?
yes, by her boyfriend

>>8226376
>Eventually
>And she'll be Ogey with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXna1a-806Q

>>8226376
nope, 2 things that went viral in a debut stream will never happen again

>>8226376
not until she retires

>>8226376
In subs? Unlikely. In live viewers? Probably.

>>8227202
The “a” moment and what else?

>>8227396
Ride on Time

>>8226376

never say never. a few years ago people thought Ai was unbeatable, theres always a bigger fish coming down the river,

>>8226376
>>8226993
So basically, an autistic alcoholic loli with 4chan humor who's good at singing.

>>8226376
It is not impossible but highly unlikely because

1) When she debuted the vtuber hype was at an all time high
2) Corona
3) as>>8227202 said

>>8227503
>he still believes the drunk acting

>>8227503
Ehhhh. Her voice is appealing right now, I don't want to say she's good at singing. Opera used to be the shit, it's still considered good but I doubt most normies can even name 1 opera singer at this point. Once the market gets saturated with copycats, some of which are bound to be actually good, her singing voice is be seen as lesser. What matters most is her range. Can she do heartfelt songs? Can she sing to a more country beat? Can she rap? How is her lyrical game? Cause right now it's still basically all the same type of singing she did in her past life, sans the goofy meme bit.

>>8226376
She was famous on her old channel for latching onto memes, now that she can't she will drop off eventually
Maybe she'll follow after nyanners at that point and join vshitjo

>>8227653
>I don't want to say she's good at singing
then you are a faggot who can not be taken seriously

>>8227718
This is a cope post

>>8226490
An even bigger meme.

>>8227653
>name 1 opera singer
Jackie Chan

>>8226376
Can she? Easily, she's small and seems easy to dom.

Will she? Depends on if she meets the right person.

>>8226376
No
Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

>>8227472
Literally nobody thought AI was unbeatable.

>>8226993
>Loli is not a permanent trend.
It has always been a trend. If anything, it is a trend that people have been trying to cancel unsuccessfully.

Worst fucking fanbase

>>8226376
she can/has

>>8226993
Gura will (and already does) get beaten in live views, vod views and SCs but I think even if she stopped streaming altogether her sub count will just keep growing. The algorithm just works in her favor too much.

>>8227132
This annon speaks truth, let's not sit here an pretend that Gura changed jobs because she wanted more viewers.

>>8228331
誰

>>8226376
She's a bottom so hopefully

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>>8230748
koopa

yes when she kills herself soon. and you too

>>8226376
she will be topped by my fat ojiisan cock

>>8231065
Do your kanji reps EOPchama

>>8226376
It may take years, but in time the Gura Killer will rise

>>8231753
I'd die if they actually hired more than 1 Gura like Kizuna did

Gura will probably be surpassed by some new Kizuna Ai with a massive budget, but it will be a hollow victory.

Uhh Kuzuha Ai is still queen Holoshizos...

>>8226376
that's a child, sir.

>>8226376
I top her every night

>>8226376
>we'll see

>>8238756

Mori will surpass her before 2023 and become the most subbed vtuber world wide

>>8226376
>most viewers ever
>most SCs ever
who the fuck is this in the OP, btw?

>>8239113
Your oshi is gone forever anon, even Kiara will eventually surpass her numbers. Just get over it already

>>8239386
She's doing great m8. She doesn't cease existing just cause she's no longer a holo.

>>8239556
She is doing great now, but just let a couple of months go by. The decline will happen eventually, if she goes this way the only outcome possible is losing her viewership

>>8226376
The new chaos vtuber will destroy Gura's numbers because it’s inevitable that it be destroyed. It’s Hegelian Dialectics, not personal animosity. How do I explain Hegelian Dialectics basically enough? It’s a philosophical theory, the kind you might encounter if you took the time to do your history reps. The fundamental premise is to envision history as a sequence of “dialectical” conflicts. Each dialectic begins with a proposition, a thesis which inherently contains, or creates, its opposite – an antithesis. Thesis and anthesis. The conflict is inevitable. But the resolution of the conflict yields something new – a synthesis – eliminating the flaws in each, leaving behind common elements and ideas. What's dialectic between Gura and Baelz? HoloEN 1 wiped the slate clean. Vtubing descended to a level of saturation that effectively set the market back to zero. Gura has all of the problems of a vtuber – extreme lolibaiting, tribalism, extensive infighting between fanbases. Just as with the old gen, it is natural that a new gen should transform Gura into a 2view. Thesis and antithesis. EN 2 is Baelz's rubicon. Gura's numbers will be reduced, but the new synthesis will change Baelz as well… from a basically new vtuber on the block to the new face of HoloEN as a whole.

>>8226376
Yes, Tyrone tops her every night.

>>8226697
and got topped by an indian botnet, if they attached a name to said botnet it would make little difference

>>8240084
Mutt's law

In likability, ideas, and actually being entertaining she’s been topped for a while in subs probably not. Notice how now adays people only call her cute they don’t talk about her content or things she actually does. Not even other Vtubers.

>>8226376
Shark loli with a great model who can be both entertaining and calm when needed and is generally the most professional. She also just so happens to have the entire English speaking world behind her and even loyal Japanese followers.

>>8239386
but she just did a meme review and is still doing fine?

>>8226993
What if she just keeps going, making a new internet personality every time she exhausts the previous, eventually owning hundreds of multi million sub channels making passive income from backlogs? That's the future I wanna see for gura, that's the interesting timeline.

>>8226376
Petra Gurin. Enough said.

>>8226376
FIX HER FUCKING RIGGING YOU FUCKING RIGGER

>>8226376
it is inevitable unless she starts putting in effort.

>>8226697
You've seen pewds views for someone with over 100 mill subs? Mr. beast already surpassed his popularity, subs means nothing nowadays. Anya has more subs than so many indies and can barely compete with them.

>>8227472
literally who?

>>8226993
>3 years
I give her 1 year, screencap this or I'll kill the president.

>>8226993
That is actually decent analysis.

>>8226376
I topped her last night, if you know what I mean.

>>8242965
it is?

>>8243113
not really but don't tell him

>>8239386
It will take Kiara years to reach her numbers lol

>>8226376
Yeah. By me.
Or that Amber fella who knows

>>8226376
She's already been topped in all but subscribers, and they're not worth much anyway if it's all just dead subs

>>8226376
in popularity? it'll take a while before that happens
in quality? she's never been on top, even for EN vtubers

>>8226376
She'll be topped years from now when vtubing explodes and everyone is doing it, but for the foreseeable future she's the queen. And rightfully so.

>>8226376
Hololive will either be overtaken by a new competitor (very likely) or manage to turn the girls into a media franchise that will stand the test of time (extremely unlikely). If the latter comes true then eventually another talent will surpass Gura or her legacy as Hololive grows bigger and bigger.