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>> No.8211281

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

>> No.8211543
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8211543

Mio's Birthday
>PREDICTIONS?


To preempt the moonshots and falseflags, here are all Mio streams peaking over 25k since Holostats keeps records

>2021-06-29 :: 46969/78789 :: 【新衣装】かわいい?セクシー?新衣装お披露目だー!!!【 大神ミオ / ホロライブ 】
>2021-01-25 :: 43149/48300 :: 【本社建設リレー】AKUKIN建設、人事担当の大神ミオ動きます【調整係】
>2021-06-24 :: 41658/46886 :: 【#うさ建ステージリレー】光るもの大好き!!!!光らせたい!【マイクラ】
>2021-02-04 :: 38683/45578 :: 【地獄】もうひとりの人格を呼んでこよう!の会!【#SMOK】
>2021-06-22 :: 34212/44994 :: 【AKUKIN建設】社長・・カムバック!重役会議【マイクラ】
>2020-06-14 :: 39041/44616 :: 初夏のユニーク俳句王決定戦 【ホロライブ】
>2020-10-07 :: 33744/41311 :: エピソード人狼嘘のエピソードを語っているのは誰だ?!
>2021-02-23 :: 35003/40407 :: 冬のユニーク俳句王決定戦【ホロライブ】
>2020-06-24 :: 32577/39109 :: 【#ホロワードウルフ】言葉と言葉の戦いが・・今、はじまる!!!!
>2020-12-07 :: 32010/39089 :: 大神ミオ2周年記念3Dライブ【2nd anniversary】
>2021-05-05 :: 27379/36294 :: 【 #朝ミオ 】朝ミオGWスペシャル!!!寝起き逆凸もあるよ5日目
>2020-07-02 :: 30541/36279 :: この音は・・なんだ?!擬音で表せ!擬音王決定戦!!【#ホロライブ擬音王】
>2021-02-25 :: 28027/35703 :: 【ミオころね】つぐのひ -昭和からの呼び声- 【鼓膜破壊注意】
>2020-09-05 :: 25858/35135 :: 配信休止に関するご説明
>2020-07-04 :: 29337/34070 :: ホロライブ食レポ名人
>2020-09-05 :: 16346/33484 :: 配信休止に関するご説明【枠取り直し】
>2021-05-04 :: 25359/32574 :: 【 #朝ミオ 】朝ミオGWスペシャル!!!寝起き逆凸もあるよ4日目
>2021-05-03 :: 22574/32304 :: 【 #朝ミオ 】朝ミオGWスペシャル!!!寝起き逆凸もあるよ3日目
>2020-09-20 :: 26173/31659 :: 【占い】ビッグゴッドミォーンの占いの館、開店中【祝5期生コラボ解禁】
>2020-10-30 :: 22947/31012 :: 大神ミオ、バージョンアップ!!!2.0お披露目会会場【version2.0】
>2020-09-07 :: 26514/29962 :: ただいま雑談
>2020-10-08 :: 21369/28357 :: 【ホロ村】久々のホロ鯖は文化が発展しすぎていた【探索】
>2021-02-10 :: 17507/28025 :: フブキとミオでマイクラデート、食べ歩き!【ホロ村】
>2021-06-27 :: 21098/27797 :: 【重大告知】なんと、ついに・・・?!?!【朗報】
>2021-05-02 :: 20499/27010 :: 【 #朝ミオ 】朝ミオGWスペシャル!!!寝起き逆凸もあるよ2日目
>2020-09-09 :: 23914/26756 :: カラオケスナックみぉーん、フブキとあやめがご来店
>2020-09-08 :: 23328/26682 :: 【幽霊列車】ホラー激よわだから幽霊はちょっと無理
>2021-06-09 :: 18048/26614 :: 歌え!ほえろ!前だけ見て進む!!!
>2021-08-14 :: 18035/26401 :: 【アクキン建設】完成させるぞ!マップアート!【 マイクラ / ホロライブ 】
>2021-08-10 :: 22530/26371 :: 【アクキン建設】マップアートみんなで作ります!!!【 マイクラ / ホロライブ 】
>2020-10-23 :: 21763/26103 :: 【重大発表】さくらみこ・大神ミオで準備していた事とは?!【マイクラ】
>2021-06-30 :: 21735/25976 :: 【罰ゲーム】ロリショタ地獄SMOKコラボ【スバルは巻き込まれ事故】

Lots of guests but not a lot of publicity for this, I'll put the under/over at
>45k

Guesses?

>> No.8211710

>>8211543
>7 guests
80k
100k if its kino

>> No.8211741

>>8211710
That's a moonshot, she didn't break that even with her outfit reveal, arguably the stream with the most potential for big numbers.

>> No.8211757

>>8211543
50k for Mio

>> No.8211765

>>8211276
Where's Kazoo, did he not stream yesterday? I don't see any Nijis there unless that male with the blue background is one of them.

>> No.8211777

>>8211276
Always love to see hags making bank

>> No.8211791

>>8211543
48k

>> No.8211795

>>8211710
Mio is maybe one of the top 5 EOP filter Holos, not gonna attract that many tourists.

>> No.8211799

>>8211765
>unless that male with the blue background is one of them
Your kana reps anon...

>> No.8211801

>>8211543
50k for sure to break her Akukin record. Anything more than that is a bonus.

>> No.8211926

>>8211765
Kuzu has been a little off the pace for supas recently, he's still number 1 in Niji overall but for the year so far iirc he's behind Fuwa, Kanae, Ib and Tomoe. And yes Axia is a Niji, I'm pretty sure there's been at least 1 representative from the big 2 companies in the daily spacha chart since the anon started posting them.

>> No.8211955

Speaking of predictions, Furen's 3D debut got announced.

https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1428673209319178242

After Akabane and Levi's numbers, I have no idea how one of the better performing nijifemales will go. Already 75 people in the waiting room even though its 8 days away.

>> No.8211967

>>8211276
>Birthday countdown
>Sololive announcement
>Original Song
>Live action cooking
>Rushia being Rushia
>Just playing Pokemon(?)
>Karaoke
>Masturbation mario kart
>Just playing Goemon
>Karaoke
>ASMR
>Just playing Skyward Sword
Slow day for Supas

>> No.8212004 [DELETED] 

>>8211955
>Birthday countdown
That's a thing?

>> No.8212012

>>8211543
Her numbers is consistent. 44k-52k

>> No.8212074

>>8211955
75k max. Shes no Sara (shes the highest at 86k)

>> No.8212112
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>>8211955
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO
She's probably the biggest niji who hasn't had a 3d debut yet, 100k seems unlikely but 80k? Maybe even 85?

>> No.8212123

https://youtu.be/AVWf9U3G5_U
Outfit reveal

>> No.8212132

>>8211955
A little around Mashiro, but above Levi therefore 60-70k

>> No.8212158

>>8212112
We're getting closer to vtubers with fat asses in 3D

>> No.8212253

>>8212112
Nips truly need to embrace the "thicc thighs" properly and abandon the "thigh gap" aesthetic.
Skindentation, zettai ryouiki and leg "accessories" work better when the thighs touch.

>> No.8212275

>>8211543
My logical guess is around 50kish.
My hope is that she gets 60k+ just as a reward for being Capcom's whipping boy over permissions and taking one for the team so they could get their shit sorted before someone more malicious just outright deleted them from YouTube.

>> No.8212475
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8212475

>>8211543
65k

>> No.8212484
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8212484

Lainbros...

>> No.8212516
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8212516

>>8212475
>>8211543
wait there's no akukin bosses there on the guest list, so reduce my guess down to 55k

>> No.8212532

>>8212484
Is she NijiEN tier now?

>> No.8212582

>>8212484
Playing Apex when there's currently 18 other Nijis playing it was not a good idea

>> No.8212586

>>8212484
>generic token female of new JP gen
Not surprised.

>> No.8212594

>>8211955
70k viewers, maybe more she gets some good guests.

>> No.8212595

>>8212253
it's really hard to make it good in 3D. If the thigh can get jiggly it can be hot but you can bet that it would just clip itself.

>> No.8212724
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8212724

If you guys wanna see a chart that gives credence to the "tabbing out = -1 viewer" theory
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/0Op5oxqqFL4

Subaru Mario Kart ongoing stream, every time the race ends the public drops and then immediatelly goes to the previous level when the new race starts.

This give credence to the theory that if you are not with the video window in the foreground you no longer count as a viewer, and removes the possibility of it being "mobile users checking other stream", because they wouldn't know when to return immediately when the new race starts

>> No.8212728
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8212728

How do we save Pekora?

>> No.8212767

>>8212724
Just stop anon… get meds and go take a rest.

>> No.8212773

>>8212728
KEK. She's playing Grand Blue tho, I doubt there is a greater EOP filter than that, EOPs are all watching Subary playing Mario Kart

>> No.8212776

>>8212728
Youtube notification is broken

>> No.8212805
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8212805

>>8212767
>get meds
NEVER!

>> No.8212824

>>8212582
Isn't that literally every day?

>> No.8212852

Gacha games suck more than apex and minecraft

>> No.8212867

Granblue isn't a stream game unless you're doing gacha.
16k isn't bad.

>> No.8212878

>>8212824
kek

>> No.8212890

>>8212824
Worse during these all vtuber tournies where everyone is scrimming and all POVs are up.

>> No.8212896

>>8212773
>EOP
EOP watch Peko memes but they don't watch her streams anon

>> No.8212919

>>8212824
Scrimming ≠ playing pubs/ranked

>> No.8212955

>>8212484
So this is the super rookie Holokiller gen that Nijiniggers keep talking about?

>> No.8212965

>>8212896
>but they don't watch her streams anon
They do when it is Minecraft, for instance, as there is no need for greater comprehension to appreciate whatever she's building / doing

>> No.8212974
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8212974

>getting less viewers than Hajime
Just close the holosharts branch, it's an embarrassment.

>> No.8213032
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8213032

APEXsanji...

I wonder if that's the famed creative freedom that Hololive lacks

>> No.8213043

>>8212728
She needs to stop playing shit games like granblue and all those trasgy J-rpgs. Nobody cares about Dragon Quest, nobody cares about Final Fantasy.

>> No.8213044

>>8211543
Im getting 3d anniv fatigue now. Probably 50k-60k

>> No.8213074

>>8213043
>Numberfags despairing once again at Holos not autistically maximising their numbers - colourised
I swear this is a daily occurence at this point

>> No.8213078

>>8213043
>Nobody cares about Dragon Quest, nobody cares about Final Fantasy.
The absolute state of EOPs.

>> No.8213094

>>8211543
Polka, an EOP filter, got 30k solo. Mio + guests should be 60k

>> No.8213157

>18k waiting room
I think this is the same as Botan

>> No.8213158

>>8213078
kek, Pekora ven got an interview in some nip rag about her Dragon Quest play recently

>> No.8213208

>>8213094
Man I remember when Polka was among the first honorary ENs and EOPs loved her.

>> No.8213328

>>8213208
This was based entirely on her previous identity getting decent numbers + "funny clown lol", it disappeared as soon as people saw her actual content

>> No.8213332

>>8213074
Kuzushit never played debuff games
This is why we call her numberfag pussy
Look Korone,Pekora,Gura they all play debuff games very much

>> No.8213379

Fatigue is real… atleast theres less events next month…

>> No.8213403
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8213403

>there Holo streams ongoing
M-Matuli...

>> No.8213408

>>8213332
He played Idol Manager at dead hours yesterday to 'only' 15k viewers, SEAnigger.

>> No.8213415

>>8213208
People here like her but here is like....sub 1000 people, a lot of which won't watch any JP streams anyway. Polka doesn't really appeal to the reddit EOP crowd like say Marine.

>> No.8213419

>>8213332
holy esl

>> No.8213458
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8213458

>>8213379
>Fatigue is real
See >>8211543, this is so far her 10th most watched stream since Holostats started recording.
It is on pace to 40k, 42k which could put it in close to her top 5

Don't let Marine and Rushia numbers confuse you about what's big for a streamer special date

>> No.8213509

>>8213332
Agree
1.APEX or FPS
2.Baseball
3.New buff games
WKTMN

>> No.8213519

>32k watching Kuzuha after he already died
The KING is too strong

>> No.8213600

>>8213519
kuzuha save niji aaaaa mion alrd broke past 40k aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>> No.8213611
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8213611

>>8213519
Gotta give it to him, his audience is there for him and only him.

Here is teh current chart, other than Mio and Furen 3D debut announcement it is all APEX and, yet, Kuzuha towers over the rest of the field

>> No.8213640

>>8213519
>King
More like celebs-leeching Vampire

>> No.8213643

Does Gura have the highest 2D birthday stream?

>> No.8213673

>>8213643
No it was Anya

>> No.8213680
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8213680

45k and still inclining.

It's already on pace to be her most watched stream. Any bets on where it stops?

New over/under is 60k

>> No.8213682

>>8213643
Coco. Stop there. Do you reps if you want more.

>> No.8213685

>>8213611
enter captain marine

>> No.8213706

>>8213600
>>8213640
Seethe SEAniggers

>> No.8213713

>>8213643
No.
Even discounting Coco buff Subaru had more

>> No.8213745

>>8213519
A better niji subbing kaida so collab is kino

>> No.8213752

>>8213640
>Play like shit
>Never got champion
Kek

>> No.8213769

>>8213680
based mion giving oujou more time

>> No.8213818
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8213818

>Starting momentum reached it's limit
From now it will only incline on the strength of the guests.

>> No.8213828

>>8213706
>SEAniggers call me SEAniggers
Kek
Only SEAmonkeys will call this tranny gay ass leech a king

>> No.8213831

>>8213752
is he playing something else ouside of Apex?

>> No.8213879
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8213879

So are all the EN2 girls going to get all their stolen subs back once they debut? It's almost comical at this point how often Susan guts their subs

>> No.8213888
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8213888

>>8213828
Shitskin hands typed this post

>> No.8213901

>>8213818
im not sure that any of this "shadows" could beat Ayame X Mio.
sad

>> No.8213904

>>8213682
Coco 2021 is 3D+2D.
>>8213713
My bad, I thought talents having 3D model likely use 3D on BD steam

>> No.8213918
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8213918

>>8213831
Yes. Her. If he's done with her, he goes Valorant or SFV while smoking and bragging to chat.

>> No.8213928

>>8213904
3D birthdays area always advertised as such

>> No.8213991

>>8213918
First time EVER I saw well drawn nipples in anything related to japs (even tangentially like this). Artist?

>> No.8214040
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8214040

Kanata announced the schedule for EN portal building relay
https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1428689311390527488

Potential for big numbers

>> No.8214062

Smart Mio isn't only doing a concert. She's having other things as well, especially since SMOK is here now.

>> No.8214098
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8214098

>>8214040
>Moona is here
>Miko is Here
> Pekora is NOT here

>> No.8214116

>>8214040
Aaaaaaaaaa nooooooooooooooo
Only Nijisanji can do project aaaaaaaa

>> No.8214120
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8214120

30 min in, 53k, it is already Mio's second most watched stream after her new outfit (that peaked at 78k)

>> No.8214126
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8214126

>>8214040
no pecor no number

>> No.8214141

>>8214040
>Matsuri
>Mel
>Treerat
This leeches

Also,
>No Pekora
Your days are outnumbered rabbit

>> No.8214156

>>8214062
I mean, it's not smart from a numbers perspective because more songs/performances = bigger numbers. Variety stuff burns time and she only has 1 hour. She had a chance to peak at 60k, but not sure now.

>> No.8214178

>>8214040
With that group, not likely. They'll be lucky to break 30k.

>> No.8214212

>>8214178
miko alone brings at least 20k

>> No.8214214

>>8214120
>2020-12-07 :: 32010/39089 :: 大神ミオ2周年記念3Dライブ【2nd anniversary】

Didn't really hit me that the infamous cake throw-up 3D live only peaked at 39k. Not sure if Hololive inclined or if guests really did make such a big diff.

>> No.8214219

>>8214178
Miko can get 30k plus.

>> No.8214243

>>8214178
If Miko were the last one, it might break 33K-35K .

>> No.8214245

>>8213879
Nope.
People are going to have to manually resub since they've been flagged as bot accounts, hence the multiple purges. Won't be until after debut that they should be okay.
>>8214040
Ah shit this is gonna be big. I can't even fathom the numbers uuooooohhhhhh

>> No.8214248

>>8214098
If you think about it this is the "who is who" of the EOP magnets.
>Matsuri
>Haachama
>Miko
>All of the MC playing IDs
then
>All of MC playing Gen 5
The only "odd men out" are Kanata (which is organizing), Mel (which is in search for an incline through MC) and Mio (likely representing AKUKIN and bringing Marine and maybe Aqua)

>> No.8214270

>>8214141
>This leeches
Lamy?
>>8214126
>No Pekora
Miko. even Moona didnt helped

>> No.8214280

>>8214040
It'll fluctuate a lot though. 15-30k depending on who's up. Miko, Botan, Moona and Haato would be the ones getting high numbers. Also, Suisei's concert is around Risu's time so expect a really hard drop.

>> No.8214308

>>8214248
I'm still mad that the Kiara/Kanata collab got cancelled/never off the ground because they couldn't HelloProject permissions

>> No.8214327

>>8214280
Given Haachama history with the EN server I expect her triumphal return to that server (when both sides of the portal are made and then connected) to be the biggest number draw of all of them

>> No.8214341

>>8214156
Normally sure, but after what, 10? 3d concerts this month? Especially when a big draw of SMOK is them just screwing about and screaming.

>> No.8214363

>>8214308
I'm out of the loop, QRD?

>> No.8214387

>>8214327
Nah, it's going to be them building a portal on the JP server and celebrating after finishing it. The real numbers for Haato is when she starts building on the EN server. That marks her return on the server.

>> No.8214407

>>8214248
>EOP magnets.
>Matsuri
are you kiding me?
Lamy is odd too

>> No.8214409

>>8214387
reading reps anon?
>when both sides of teh portal are made and then connected

>> No.8214432

>>8214248
Pekora is unironically a bigger EOP magnet than everyone there except Miko and Haachama.

>> No.8214444
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8214444

>>8214308
are fucking kidding me?
they didnt give promotions for free worldwide promotion?!

>> No.8214445

>>8214407
Matsuri is still one of the most recognizable chuubas in the western market, regardless of her current fall from grace.
Out of the OG EOP magnets the only one missing is Fubuki (which rarely plays MC anyway). I would say Aqua too but she's more of a zhang magnet than anything

>> No.8214530

>>8214432
>Pekora is unironically a bigger EOP
Moona will partially bring those ppl, but yeah

>> No.8214559

loooool Mio started singing a meme song that assaults the ears and lost 500 viewers. WTF is going on jfc.

>> No.8214609

>>8214445
She's recognizable but being a magnet means you have to be able to draw people to your streams. Matsuri ain't drawing anyone except her couple thousand Stockholm syndromed fans.

>> No.8214628

Why is Korone often absent from SMOK, to the point the three remaining became a thing too?

>> No.8214658

>>8214445
>Matsuri is still one of the most recognizable chuubas in the western marke
we can argue about her it, But MC+Matsuri is nt EOP magnets.

>> No.8214678

>>8214628
those are mio's daughters anon

>> No.8214680

>>8214248
>All of MC playing Gen 5
MC is probably a bigger percentage of Polka's streams than any of the others.

>> No.8214683

>>8214280
>Suisei's concert is around Risu's time
I don't know if that's intentional or not...

>> No.8214734

>>8214609
1.3k*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyXAdZMH3zc

>> No.8214752

>>8214040
Risu what a fucking leech, you barely even play MC.

>> No.8214789
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8214789

Hero of the slot award goes to
>Hayato Kagami

Strong presence and NOT PLAYING FUCKING APEX

>> No.8214807
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8214807

>>8214678
>Mio is Korone's daughter
do your reps anon

>> No.8214830

>>8214683
I checked it again. It's gonna be around Botan and Mel's time. The first 30 minutes would be okay numbers for Botan, but it'll drop hard during Mel's when Suisei drops her big announcement. Same goes for Risu's part.

>> No.8214849

So...Niji lose today as well...didn't you guys say that Nijinoon will be the Holo killer event?

>> No.8214890

>>8214363
They were going to do a collab where they went full idolfag about hello project and explaining stuff about them and their songs and about how much they love them.
Pretty much free advertising but nips are retarded.

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8214897

>>8214849
> So...Niji lose today as well...didn't you guys say that Nijinoon will be the Holo killer event?

>> No.8214921

>>8213611
>all that Apex
That is fucking disgusting

>> No.8214922
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8214922

>>8214789
>Hitman
i-i kneel
t.holofan

>> No.8214939

Nijisanji's accumulated CCV right now?

I see a lot of 3 digits from them, is this how they normally perform?

>> No.8214944

>>8214040
12k-30k. NA sleeptime and Jops dont give shit about EN

>> No.8214950
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8214950

>>8214680
>MC is probably a bigger percentage of Polka's streams than any of the others.
are you fucking kidding me?

>> No.8214952

>>8214939
yes

>> No.8214958

>>8214922
dont use captain marine to kneel to niji you bitch

>> No.8214997

>>8214944
I would've appreciate it if they made the event small, not a freaking relay stream. Kanata, you big leech.

>> No.8215007

>>8214944
They are not Nijisanji

>> No.8215020

>>8214939
Yes niji is an iceberg, 10% decent 90% deadweight.

>> No.8215058

>>8214363
Nothing recent, but back when Kiara was still in Japan she talked about meeting Kanatan at the studio and geeking out about HelloProject and that they planned a collab basically introducing/gushing over their groups but permissions happened

>> No.8215072
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8215072

Good idea for the collab at the main channel, bad idea having a 30 min gap between debuts.

I understand that is to leave some room for spillage over 1 hour but even then people may watch their would-be-oshi and bail

>> No.8215074

>>8214444
One view = 1 less album sale
Pleasu andastand

>> No.8215113

>>8214944
They made Ollie Reine Moona and Miko go too early, Only Haachama is in a decent time for EN speakers.

>> No.8215142
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8215142

>Mio saving Miko for last and getting one extra boost
5 more minutes of this and she could beat 60k

>> No.8215162

>>8214950
Someone in the Polka thread calculated it as 25% of her videos in the last 6 months being Minecraft. I've not run numbers for anyone else, but I reckon that at least qualifies her as "one of the MC playing Gen 5"

>> No.8215173

>>8214922
Anyone remember coco breaking the game by killing all the people and pile em in hitman? That was good shit.

>> No.8215202

>>8214939
When I checked.
110.2k
Kuzuha is 31.3k of that.

>> No.8215203

>>8215072
I didn't notice the 30 min breaks in-between each debut. That's a retarded decision imo, but we'll see how it works out. Not expecting HoloCouncil's debuts to beat Irys's number anyways.

>> No.8215234

>>8215203
It's 6+ hours of streams, people need time to take a piss, eat ect.

>> No.8215243

>>8215072
>Good idea for the collab at the main channel
Anon please learn to read the fucking press release, or even just the translated reddit post.
It's on the rrat channel.
>bad idea having a 30 min gap between debuts.
You're retarded and suck at planning.

>> No.8215266

Irys killed the hype.

>> No.8215300

>>8215072
>>8215203
You guys new? Holomyth takamori and trinity had 1 hours gap in between

>> No.8215308

>>8215162
Botan has more original content, but she streams MC a LOT and pretty impactfull member of Holo in this regard

>> No.8215312

>>8215203
For adults, it gives time to reconcile their thoughts from all these "hype".

Only kids are impatient.

>> No.8215330

>>8215203
I think Rat will beast IRyS, given the time slot they gave her and given how much they're pushing her to be the leader. Literally called the leader in her bio, best debut slot, first collab on her channel, in the center of all the official art.

>> No.8215335
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8215335

>Not even 1k
Pls watch Lain...
She is Anya tier now at this rate

>> No.8215336

>>8215300
No, it's called NijiEN planned their debut streams better and Hololive didn't learn from the smarter company yet again.

>> No.8215337

>>8215203
If they are not shadow banned, they probably can beat IRyS's debut.

>> No.8215375

>>8215336
No wonder the news didn't spread, it happened too fast and quick

>> No.8215386

>>8215336
Niji EN debuts were a shitshow. 30 minutes is too short.

>> No.8215389

>>8215335
What made her think it was a good idea to stream Apex by herself when everyone else is streaming scrims for the upcoming tournament? All the Apex tourists wouldn't be watching her.

>> No.8215406

>>8215142
It capped out with smok. Makes sense. It was good she kept it level until the end of the hour.

>> No.8215422

>>8215336
>NijiEN planned their debut streams better
The NijiEN debuts were so poorly planned that one of them didn't even show up for their debut, lol. You are talking out of your ass once again.

>> No.8215426

>>8215337
Really depends on how it being a relay factors in against being the first debut in more than half a year.
Both got hyped up through comparatively high budget videos but there seems to be fatigue for EN2

>> No.8215429

>>8215335
>"Pls watch Lain"
>Apex
i don't think i will

>> No.8215430

>>8215335
Anya would get better numbers than that if she played Apex

>> No.8215437

>>8215312
>>8215234
Fair enough. Not sure if you can afford to spare 30 mins in a relay, but realistically, not many people are going to be there for all 6 hours anyways so it shouldn't be that big a deal.

>> No.8215448

>>8215335
Wow, Nijis flame out fast don't they

>> No.8215458

>>8215330
If the guesses about the rrat's timezone are correct (JST or close to it) then she needed that slot to not have to stream in the middle of the night. Then again maybe she'll pull an Ame and stay up for 36 hours straight and do a disastrous sleep-deprived debut stream.

>> No.8215461

>>8215335
>solo when everyone else is scrimming
What was she thinking?

>> No.8215462

>>8215448
At least the females do.........Manjisanji

>> No.8215464
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>>8215336
what happen with fishe in that 30 min ?

>> No.8215471

>>8215336
as expected another retarded nijinigger

>> No.8215502

>>8215386
30 minutes is just right, hololive's 1 hour debuts drag things out and are just awkward.

>> No.8215546

>>8215430
unironically

>> No.8215563

>>8215426
I really pissed me that YT shadow banned her. IRyS had high waiting room number( >= Mori's outfit)

>> No.8215567

>>8215458
Current theory is that rrat is Aussie or Kiwi, unless you actually believe that a Holo is waking up at 8am

>> No.8215578

>>8215335
You should be more worried about Matsuri. Lain isn't even playing in the tourney unlike her and she has similar numbers.

>> No.8215588

>>8215563
She didn't get shadowbanned though, don't use that have an actual meaning.

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>>8215437
>but realistically, not many people are going to be there for all 6 hours anyways
they will just skip first two of them.
problem solved

>> No.8215595

>>8215422
>>8215464
That's nothing to do with the company's planning, that's just Finana not being prepared.

>> No.8215605

>>8215567
..lamy and miosha

>> No.8215631

>>8215578
>worried about Matsuri
Not even her fanbase anymore…

>> No.8215642

>>8215502
Nah

Longer than 30 minutes gives them time to sing which is a huge moment in the debut. Just look at what Ride on Time did for Gura and what dropping the Ayunda voice on everybody did for Risu. Sure Risu debuffed herself to hell but she was easily the most popular ID out of the gate with the fastest growth because of her singing during her debut.

>> No.8215680

Having set gaps between each debut stream is a good idea, doesn't force the streamer to rush, gives the audience a chance to reset and do life things and migrate, no possibility of overlapping. Only downsides are a longer overall runtime and some casual dropoff in between streams.

>> No.8215700

>>8215578
>worried about Matsuri.
nah

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>>8215502
>30 minutes is just right
thats why every one of NijiEN 1.5 did debut 2.0?

>> No.8215796
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8215796

>Mio overshooting 1 hour and debuffing the rest of the stream
KEK, let’s see where the algorithm will land the outflow

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8215799

It's time to kneel, SEAmonkeys

>> No.8215807

>>8215578
Matsuri's been bad for a long time, and she doesn't seem to really care.

>> No.8215808

>>8215680
>Having set gaps between each debut stream is a good idea
yes, but15 min

>> No.8215871
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8215871

>>8215796
Flare must have picked up most and then Marine

>> No.8215896

>>8215796
Marine and the Haachama collab split the difference and the rest of this fodder gets the scraps.

Personally I'm watching Pomu VOD from yesterday

>> No.8215905

>>8215808
I could agree with this.

>> No.8215909

>>8215807
>she doesn't seem to really care.
seems like she diigged some gold

>> No.8215911

>>8215605
We both know that those are outliers

>> No.8215936
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8215936

Nijisanji-san, maybe it's time to pay attention to your KR market.

>> No.8215945

>>8215808
15 minutes ends up with streams with dumb runtimes like 2:45 to 3:45. Half hour makes more sense.

>> No.8215975

>>8215335
What's her debut numbers again?

>> No.8215978

>>8215936
They let Bora play Apex with the JPs what more do you want?

>> No.8216008
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8216008

He actually beat the Gura karaoke number on a regular ass scrim.

>> No.8216033

>>8216008
AAAAAAAAA MY KNEES

>> No.8216056

>>8215975
she had the least numbers of i remember correctly 60k+

>> No.8216065

>>8216008
Why does he gets the viewers when he keeps dying? Kanae deserves more

>> No.8216089

>>8216008
>regular ass scrim
>Literally the biggest craze in vtubing right now with over 30 vtubers participating and over 100k culminative CCV

>> No.8216093

>>8216008
Hes been beating Gura since January

>> No.8216097

>>8216065
Don't you always die in Apex unless you win the entire thing?

>> No.8216103

>>8214040
miko is the strongest there, so about 20k

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>>8216008
>He actually beat the Gura karaoke number on a regular
chumbuds i dont feel good

>> No.8216106

>>8216065
Agree. They die because Kuzuha keeps throwing.

>> No.8216122

>>8216097
People die when they are killed.

>> No.8216142

>>8216008
Still lose to a regular ass stream from a mid tier Holo like Mio though.

>> No.8216156

>>8216056
Still surprising that she's dropped to Selejo-tier numbers so soon, though maybe it's just because it's Apex.

>> No.8216167

>>8216008
Hololive already won today. It's over.

>> No.8216172

>>8216089
>regular stream
cope, thi was FAMOUS Unarchive Karaoke of Gwar Gura

>> No.8216176

>>8216089
We should have a Karaoke contest at this rate

>> No.8216191

>>8216142
Mio mogging Gura's karaoke with a regular stream.
Can't believe Gura's declined so much

>> No.8216212

>>8216065
>kaida was the debuff
>42k playing with his bratty sister

>> No.8216222

>>8216172
Install Grammarly you retarded SEA monkey.

>> No.8216231

>>8216156
>Female Niji
im not

>> No.8216242

>>8216156
Her numbers did drop a lot but this particular outlier is because she was retarded enough to schedule a regular Apex stream during a big Apex tournament, anyone who likes Apex is watching that and anyone who doesn't isn't won't watch her stream

>> No.8216246

>>8215072
normal audience needs to take breaks to do other things, such as go to toilet or eat. It's not a bad idea to have breaks instead of 5hrs of debuts straight

>> No.8216289

>>8216246
5 hours and an hour group collab.
EN 1 girls have been talking to them for weeks/months apparently.

>> No.8216310

>>8216156
Females are 2nd class citizens in the Niji hierarchy. In another year they'll just be some vestigial remnant, the mirror equivalent of Holostars.

>> No.8216312

>>8216242
How much longer are the scrims going to go? Momosuzu Nene is scheduling a solo Apex in about half an hour and it'll be interesting to see if she gets less than her usual if they overlap.

>> No.8216387

>>8216312
Scrims usually end around midnight so maybe Nene will be lucky. Holofans don't usually care much for these Apex tournaments, as you can see from Towa, Matsuri, Roboco...etc all getting lower than their normal Apex numbers. It's much more of a Nijis + other companies type of event.

>> No.8216389

>>8216008
>scrims
>regular
this is a vtuber tourney a good one also.

>> No.8216421

>>8216242
Everyone on that gen dropped out hard.

>> No.8216449

>>8216421
Leos is still doing pretty well.

>> No.8216489

>>8216389
Hal and CR are the big vtuber tourneys.
>>8216156
A shame since she had a really good design. I don’t watch her, besides being female in Nijisanji, is it cause she’s boring or what?

>> No.8216570
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8216570

Don't know how to perceive this, likely translated. This means Mio's original was licensed through Sony Music Label? the same way as Suisei's 3:12 through Taku?

In addition, the producers are the same as Suisei's "【CHUNITHM】自分勝手Dazzling / 星街すいせい" by SEGA

>> No.8216641

>>8216570
Sony fucking dropped Niji for Hololive too? Fucking hell, Nijisanji just can't catch a break.

>> No.8216666

>>8216212
You might be on to something. Kaida is back and he's not inclining as hard as he was last match, probably no 42k this time.

>> No.8216721

>>8216641
Sony is making their own vtuber group. They’re only interest is money.
I noticed that for some Nijis it feels like their mouth tracking is Non-existent.
I was watching Petra and Oliver and their mouths barely moved or wasn’t tracking at all.

>> No.8216735

>>8216641
Sometimes, it's hard to tell if people are baiting or actually fucking retarded.
Regardless, I took this one guys, ignore it.

>> No.8216784

>>8216641
who else dropped them?

>> No.8216872

>>8216721
>Oliver
old model~2019

>> No.8217017

>>8216872
Why would they give a new hire in an anticipated wave an old model?
At least with Cover it’s known because they chose the shit rigger that did Gura and Anya for whatever reason.

>> No.8217067

>>8216872
Even if it was an old model, how hard is it to update/rerig it to a newer one? they had like a year gap to prepare for new livers.

>> No.8217167

>>8213032
>how do apex tournaments work

>> No.8217191

>>8216721
niji rigging suck ass
they need to roll gacha for getting the update.

>> No.8217203
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8217203

>Nene has more people in her waiting room than any of the other holo APEX streams right now

>> No.8217276

>>8217203
she is doing a challnege which is infinitely more entertaining that the tourney.
Still it will be 5k MAX

>> No.8217322

>>8217276
Is today a scrim or the actual event?

>> No.8217337

>>8216784
Some kind of baseball thing, went with Hololive this year instead of Niji.

>> No.8217344

>>8217203
astel 1.7k

>> No.8217348

>>8217167
That just proves my point, doesn't it? If the company with the most "creative freedom" is the one with the great majority of their most watched playing APEX what good is that creative freedom for?

Hats off again to that one bloke playing Hitman

>> No.8217375

>>8217017
Maybe he liked it, maybe they're just being cheap. maybe someone in accounting got really salty about having an unused asset sitting around forever.

>> No.8217385

>>8216570
It's been a while since I parsed a list of music credits but I'm pretty sure that just means those musicians are signed to Sony.

>> No.8217403

>>8217348
They have more creative variety shows involving collabs between multiple nijis.

>> No.8217452

>>8216570
It means the guitarist, bassist and drummer of the video are signed to Sony, not Mio herself.

>> No.8217456

Kuzuha 1 mil soon, that will actually be a big deal

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8217479

>>8217348
>creative freedom
>APEX
anon, check twitch for a second (place with endless amount of freedom)

>> No.8217500

>>8216008
it's funny, Kuzuha/Kanae's teammate gets like 20k viewers before they go live.

>> No.8217527

>>8217191
>Cover rigging good
have you met Irys and Anya?

>> No.8217528

>>8217456
who else ?

>> No.8217531

>>8217322
Today is day 5 of scrims. Its basically a mock run of the tournament so lots of people watch regardless.

>> No.8217564

>>8217322
Scrim. Expect Kuzuha to get at least 60k in the actual tourney.

>> No.8217578

>>8217527
have you met gen5 and EN?
have you met Niji last gens?

>> No.8217598

>>8217479
Jerma dollhouse was good. Vtubers cant do that shit

>> No.8217610

>>8217578
I'm just saying it's all hit and miss, Cover insists on hiring the idiot who does Anya and not Watame like they should.

>> No.8217632

>>8217348
Meanwhile at Minecralive

>> No.8217648

>>8217527
all the new gens of niji have shit rigging.
>yea we are giving 3.0 randomly
>btw kuzu and mito have it first
fuck off anycolor

>> No.8217652

>>8217564
60k?
Eh nah, 40-50k at most. His FFL select cup reached iirc ~52k and he won that tourney (although he was carried by gen). Doubt he could win this tourney, but big numbers regardless.

>> No.8217662

>>8217598
is he literally the only one doing shit like that?

>> No.8217673

>>8216570
>>8217452
Only the drummer, but yeah, it's because you need permission for someone to guest star on a track if they're signed exclusively with another label.
Cover actually licenses and publishes all of their own music now. You can see on iTunes that all their albums list Cover Corp as the label.

>> No.8217694

>>8216570
>>8217385
One other bit of digging, the violin player listed there is part of the New Japan BGM Philharmonic Orchestra. Members have also worked on some games, including that CHUNITHM one from Sega.

>> No.8217700

>>8217527
IRyS doesn’t have bad rigging, she has a bad model. Her rigger was given a pile of shit to polish.

>> No.8217714

>"EN] A: This is getting way too hard. I want the good ol' vtuber tournaments where we were goofing around, dying to the circle etc. Now everyone is so serious."
Astel...but the numbers...

>> No.8217718

>>8217652
Still, for a guy with a primarily JOP audience to do this well consistently with Apex is pretty impressive.

>> No.8217726

Marine almost 30k and that bitch pikor start streaming what's her problem?

>> No.8217739
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8217739

>>8217632
>Meanwhile at Minecralive
Nobody ever accused Hololive of being creative, quite the contrary.

But if you look at what the top Holos are doing today (and in the past few days) you would see that, AT VERY LEAST, they're doing something other than that one thing (be it Minecraft, APEX or whatever)

>> No.8217750

>>8217652
But this is Kuzuha before his INCLINE bro. He wasn't hitting this much for scrims before.

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>>8217564
not sure if he can break 60k with Kaida. pic is KCK.
>>8217662
think so

>> No.8217791

>>8217564
>Expect Kuzuha to get at least 60k in the actual tourney.
I would be surprised, with Hal splitting the bounty of viewers with him

>> No.8217793

>>8217348
They're playing Apex so much because they're participating in a tournament. And that includes participating in scrims to get the better teamwork and footing before the actual thing. What's so hard to understand here?

>> No.8217795

>>8217764
>think so
that's quite sad damn

>> No.8217796

>>8217648
They also gave it to Shibuya fucking Hajime of all people so if it was rigged they did a terrible job of it

>> No.8217824

>>8217718
Jun....

>> No.8217846

>>8217793
>They're playing Apex so much because they're participating in a tournament
Anon, how is that contradicting anything I said. They're ALL playing that one thing now. A week ago, they were ALL playing that other thing.

For some reason they got high praise (or Hololive got high criticism, with Nijisanji being used as a contrasting example) for the creative freedom they have and Hololive lack.

>> No.8217853

>>8217739
>But if you look at what the top Holos are doing today (and in the past few days)
Now if you actually do the same for Niji you might see the same picture there

>> No.8217857
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>>8217824
Jun is old news.

>> No.8217911

>>8217846
You've said
>APEXsanji...
and I've explained why there are so many Apex streams this week.

>> No.8217963

>>8217796
It's pretty obvious they hand picked Kuzuha and Mito and did the rest genuinely at random. That said I can't really see why anyone would complain, it would be stupid not to give it to those two first.

>> No.8217992

>>8217853
there are like 53 niji streams going right now
28 of them are apex.

>> No.8218010
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8218010

>>8217853
>Now if you actually do the same for Niji you might see the same picture there
Not really. Top 16 Nijis streaming now, 12/16 APEX

>> No.8218014

>>8217963
what are you talking about, fucking clown? take meds.

>> No.8218021

>>8217846
This is like bitching about literally all of hololive playing Minecraft during Usaken and Akukin. Only like 15% of the Niji roster are playing in this tourney.

>> No.8218024

>Kuzuha talking to a girl
>viewers go up
Yagoo don't look

>> No.8218066

>>8218010
>today

>> No.8218073

>>8218021
See >>8217992 and >>8218010. it would like bitching about 30 out of the 50 Holos streaming minecraft and only minecraft for 3, 4, 5 days straight

>> No.8218096

>>8217857
>8/20
>Still talk about celebs-leeching numbers
Do Kuzushit really?
Jun can mog your gay ass tranny everyday with only 800k subs
Didn't nijishit loves to talk about dead subs?

>> No.8218134

>>8218010
Hah, Furen playing Dream Club Zero.

>> No.8218160

>>8217610
w8 to see Natuer
yes he Rigged her

>> No.8218175

>>8218024
Why would his viewership go down when he talks to a girl. It’s not like his fanbase is comprised of homos and all fujos.

>> No.8218184

>>8217857
>>8218096
Samefagging...

>> No.8218188

>>8217348
Well it's more tedious than just Minecraft relay. Despite how look simple it is, you still have to asses & assign each person point & dropping area, one miss and you'll dislike bombed by autistic apexfag. And the hardest one is coordinating with that much people, not just the captain of teams but also spare player.

>> No.8218195

>>8217793
Seems there is a fucking tournament every week. Apex sucks, deal with it.

>> No.8218225

>>8218021
But that 15% of Nijis participating in the tourney bring about 90% of their company's total viewerships

>> No.8218232

>>8218195
>Apex sucks, deal with it.
Numbers says otherwise

>> No.8218242

>>8218175
Kuzuha is everything Yagoo thinks will fail:
>male streamer
>who interacts with females
>succeeds despite all that
but muh idols.

>> No.8218255

>>8218232
Well, can't argue with those numbers but at very least it should put the "creative freedom" meme to rest.

>> No.8218262

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEUYJvYcY_Y
clipfag queen has 2.1k

>> No.8218292

>>8218242
Look at this idolshizos making up shit from his own ass.

>> No.8218293

>>8218242
its that why Astel, from the male branch created by Tanigo himself and managed by him for the longest time, is collabing with Choco and Roboco right now?

>> No.8218308

>>8218255
cool story seabro
create yourself a bait thread and fuck off

>> No.8218339

>>8218308
Nice rebuttal.

>> No.8218348

>>8218255
>creative freedom
Name 1 event where all vtubers regardless of affiliation can participate in doing something together. I would join too if i were a vtuber.

>> No.8218350

>>8218242
>>male streamer
>>who interacts with females
>>succeeds despite all that
Astel I see

>> No.8218355

>Muh creative freedom timeloop
>Yagoo misinformation timeloop
> Apex bitching timeloop
Can you all shut the fuck up and get back to talking about numbers?

>> No.8218358

>>8218293
Anon, why werent Holostars allowed to talk about Coco by name? It shouldn't be that way.

>> No.8218361

>>8218293
but astel no 40+k live

>> No.8218369
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8218369

>>8217739
Since you were too lazy to do it I had to take it on myself. Here are today's top 20 Nijisanji streams against 20 Hololive streams on your picture.

>> No.8218384

>>8218255
The creative freedom is about the limits on what they're allowed to do. It has nothing to do with the actual streams being more creative, which is still up to the creator, they just have more room if they choose to use it. And at the end of the day it really just amounts to they can go a little more into sex talk than Holos can, that's about it.

>> No.8218396

>>8218355
Thread hit bump limit, that will slow things down by cutting the influx of catalog tourists taking bait

>> No.8218411

>>8218232
do you also love bollywood movies and cocomelon?

>> No.8218421

>>8218358
Protect them from chinks.

>> No.8218457

>>8218369
I didn't pic todays top tho, only the ones streaming right now simultaneously.

I don't know what point you proved tho, isn't this showing half the ensemble playing APEX?

>> No.8218495

>>8218411
>"do you also love bollywood movies and cocomelon?" he asks, congratulating himself in his mind for what he thinks is a good argument against numberfaggotry
>in the numbers thread

>> No.8218522

Reach 3 million subs and we will talk

No million sub? shut up

>jk, continue

>> No.8218525

>>8218411
>bollywood movies
Pajeets love it and their national pride
>cocomelon
Kids love it and their parents let them
>Apex
Japs fucking love it

>> No.8218557

>Pekora plays Micra
>22k
It's like clockwork.

>> No.8218561

>>8218457
Exactly. And the other half is not Apex (and I didn't include premiers/membership streams and other videos like your list)

>> No.8218562

>>8218369
check the ones streaming right now
also yours still show 50% apex.
so the point stands yet.

>> No.8218593

>>8218557
It'll likely go to 30k once Marine finishes her karaoke. There's a pretty significant overlap between them.

>> No.8218594

Why won't Cover make Pekora a proper new costume? This is the numbers thread and Pekora 2.0 would probably break Youtube.

>> No.8218595

>8218522
I'm not even going talk to (You) even if you forced me to

>> No.8218620

>>8218562
Which point? This one?
>But if you look at what the top Holos are doing today (and in the past few days) you would see that, AT VERY LEAST, they're doing something other than that one thing (be it Minecraft, APEX or whatever)
>Now if you actually do the same for Niji you might see the same picture there

>> No.8218626
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8218626

Stop with the anti-APEX cope. Numbers are numbers. Plus, Kuzuha can get some excellent non-APEX numbers as well.

>> No.8218640

>>8218594
What are her previous outfit's numbers?

>> No.8218645

>>8218594
>Why won't Cover make Pekora a proper new costume?
I can assume two things
1) she rejected the proposed designs and sent them to square one
2) she actually QC the rig, refused to use it and sent them to square one
Cover formally apologized publicly so I bet either the design or the rig were not up to par for her and she point blank told them to sod off and redo it properly

>> No.8218646

>>8218594
That’s more on Pekora for rejecting costume ideas.

>> No.8218656

>>8218626
he beat usaken festival with amogus, because he was playing with celebs. How does he get celeb guests? By being popular.

>> No.8218669

>>8218557
I told you guys YT starting fucking JP's numbers and you guys don't listen

>> No.8218677

>>8218645
Close to reality. It's always the comedian who's intricate with details.

>> No.8218679

>>8218620
I showed you a pic with pretty much no two things repeated between them, you showed one with 50% doing the same thing and failed completely to convey your point.
You must admit APEX is a little bit overplay by Nijis these days, much like baseball in the weeks prior

Major hats of for Kuzuha tho, he went the night playing Idol Manager because he thought it was fun and so did his audience

>> No.8218695

>oh noooo youtube is bullying hololive again

>> No.8218728

>>8218669
Well if the VOD views didn't change much then sure.

>> No.8218734

>>8218679
Ok please repost your picture when they will be doing Minecraft relay. Would make more sense in comparing to the day with Apex scrims.

>> No.8218736

>>8218656
He was a guest, not the host.

>> No.8218744

>>8218669
22k is THE EXACT Pekora median. She rarely deviates from that in her regular streams, give or take 2k

>> No.8218754

>>8218010
>>8218369
apex manjisanji...

>> No.8218770

>>8218736
still, he regularly plays with pros/celebs, he's making a lot of connections in short time.

>> No.8218776

>>8218734
>Ok please repost your picture when they will be doing Minecraft relay.
KEK, wouldn't that show one (1) streamer on Minecraft, given the nature of a relay?

>> No.8218788

>>8218679
>>8218734
Can I interrupt you two bickering to point out how funny it is that the single game with the most holos playing it today is... Apex?

>> No.8218805

>40k
it's funny how viewers spike up around late engagements in Apex

>> No.8218809

>>8218776
Nope this picture >>8217739 shows videos/streams within 3-4 hours so it is already strange to compare that with ongoing streams like here >>8218010

>> No.8218814
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8218814

>>8218010

>> No.8218830

>>8218734
the difference is in how often events and relays happen for MC for hololive and how often tourneys and scrim days happen forapex.
Apex is overplayed it dominates nijisanji 50% so content wise hololive looks more varied to most as result.

>> No.8218831

>>8217348
>creative freedom
It just means choice: like who you want to collab with, what you can say, what you can do, what you can play, not having managers bitch quite as much over stupid shit, etc.

>> No.8218865

>>8218809
>Nope this picture >>8217739 shows videos/streams within 3-4 hours
Anon, do your reps, I used https://piyo.chats.ninja/ which has all the currently active streams and removed all non nijis

>>8218788
Again, nobody ever accused Hololive of having "creative freedom" but these people playing APEX are being punished with a HEAVY debuff (except for Astel)

>> No.8218872
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8218872

>>8218736
His POV was the most watched one. Anyone who thinks that Kuzuha is nothing without APEX is coping massively. He has a pretty dedicated fanbase.

>> No.8218892

>>8218830
And we're back to the point of "nijis streaming too much apex even though they have to since they're participating in a tournament that works this way"

>> No.8218899

>>8218831
>what you can do, what you can play,
This is part of the point being made. What good is "creative freedom" if you are going to have half your cast and most of your upper echelon playing baseball or APEX?

>> No.8218902

>>8218788
so 7 apex streams on hololive vs 28 apex ones on niji

>> No.8218924

>>8218805
Oh no got rekted again

>> No.8218932

>>8218892
no one is denying they are on a tourney.
but also no one denies tat tournesy happen pretty much every month

>> No.8218953

>>8218924
Kuzuha was actually kill leader that game, seems the team that won a lot yesterday won again

>> No.8218957

>>8218865
Maybe try to read the post you're replying to more properly?
>>8218010 shows current streams
>>8217739 shows stream/videos from "12 minutes ago" to "3 hours ago"

>> No.8218981

>>8218899
Creative freedom is only as good as the people exercising it. If they all want to use that freedom to play Apex then that's what they'll do.
I do think by the same reasoning Hololive has more than people give them credit for, otherwise Haachama wouldn't spend so much time eating spiders and reviewing porn on stream.

>> No.8219009

>>8218953
Yeah I checked, was teasing anon. Kanae had the same kill count for that match

>> No.8219017

>>8218957
>shows stream/videos from "12 minutes ago" to "3 hours ago"
That's an artifact of the fact the screenshot taken had to included all the red ones (the active ones) with the ones that finished in the meantime.

I assume you can filter with your eyes and determine the ones that are active because that was the intente
>SPOILER: it is the ones in red

>> No.8219086
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8219086

>>8212484
Btw, this is also while scrims are taking place. For a comparison.

>> No.8219114

>>8212484
She got lots of people while with Leos, for Apex everyone wants to watch scrims now not solo.

>> No.8219142
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8219142

Yeah, I'm ready to award "winner of the day" in my imaginary (and controversial) award

Winner of the day is
>Hayato Kagami
for daring to play Hitman and having a very good audience for that

I don't know his usual median, anyoney has it? Either way it was rare and refreshing

>> No.8219163

>>8219086
Now, that's illegal. Only 3 per team is allowed.

>> No.8219178

>>8219114
See >>8219086

>> No.8219197

Can't wait to see Kuzuha's tournament day numbers because 36-38k was his previous peak for these kind of scrim streams and that was in Jan 2021. Now he's getting to 36k quite effortlessly and even getting 40k a few times. I think Hal also used to not get 20k during scrims too so both of them got a pretty hefty boost from recent events.
Alternatively, maybe Apex got more popular in the past half year and more apex autists are willing to watch Apex vtubers.

>> No.8219220

>>8212484
The irony here is that a bit after her debut fans were begging her not to touch Apex and even appealing with superchats. She said that she won't play it yet here we are.

>> No.8219245

>>8217203
Towa took the day off so nene could shine. What a good senpai.

>> No.8219247

>>8219086
She is the only holo playing APEX at this moment if not counting Astel.

>> No.8219274

>>8219086
Doesn't seem like particularly poor Nene numbers for a packed time like this, I guess the holofan/Apexfan overlap really is low.

>> No.8219308

>>8219247
izuru and rika were playing it minutes ago. Also choco
roboco would too but her pc has problems.

>> No.8219311

>>8219247
Didn’t know Choco wasn’t a Holo now.

>> No.8219330

>>8219197
To me, the most impressive vtuber right now is Hal, basically self made and successful. Then Kuzuha. Then Pekora who is consistently good.

>> No.8219343

>>8219247
Matsuri and Choco were still streaming when she started, they overlapped for an hour and Nene was above 4k for most of it.

>> No.8219369
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8219369

>>8217276
she can get good views with Apex since her chaotic nature makes her fun to watch but i guess a lot of people who would tune in are busy watching the tourney

>> No.8219443

>>8219114
Put that way it sounds like she gets lots of people because of Leos, it's like claiming Moona is a top tier holo on her own merits because she gets 10k+ on MC when with Pekora.

>> No.8219537

>>8219163
One is the coach, like in the championship

>>8219197
>maybe Apex got more popular in the past half year
It did, and so did Kuzuha and Hal.

>> No.8219607

>>8218899
I told you that creative freedom is not limited to ONLY what game you can play. Which is why I listened MANY things. Hence what good is it if you only play Apex, is a rather dumb comment. You see now?

>> No.8219656
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8219656

>>8219274
>Doesn't seem like particularly poor Nene
they kind of are. if you don't count the last sc reading stream 4k is really bad. last time she did so bad was the ARK collab a few days before Coco graduated

>> No.8219690

Here is the top 70 in the moment I fetched it from piyon.

>33051 :: APEX :: Kuzuha Channel
>23218 :: NOT APEX :: Marine Ch. 宝鐘マリン
>22817 :: NOT APEX :: Pekora Ch. 兎田ぺこら
>16317 :: APEX :: 渋谷ハル
>14209 :: NOT APEX :: Flare Ch. 不知火フレア
>8993 :: APEX :: Kanae Channel
>6755 :: NOT APEX :: Korone Ch. 戌神ころね
>6340 :: NOT APEX :: Tamaki Ch. 犬山たまき / 佃煮のりお
>6054 :: NOT APEX :: 加賀美 ハヤト/Hayato Kagami
>4967 :: APEX :: 勇気ちひろ
>4879 :: APEX :: 一ノ瀬うるは
>4787 :: APEX :: 社築
>4610 :: NOT APEX :: フレン・E・ルスタリオ
>4509 :: NOT APEX :: アンジュ・カトリーナ - Ange Katrina -
>4505 :: APEX :: イブラヒム【にじさんじ】
>4330 :: NOT APEX :: アクシア・クローネ / Axia Krone 【にじさんじ】
>4235 :: NOT APEX :: Haneru Channel / 因幡はねる 【あにまーれ】
>4219 :: APEX :: 甲斐田 晴 / Kaida Haru【にじさんじ】
>4197 :: APEX :: Nene Ch.桃鈴ねね
>3936 :: NOT APEX :: 町田ちま【にじさんじ】
>3745 :: APEX :: ローレン・イロアス / Lauren Iroas【にじさんじ】
>3670 :: APEX :: 不破 湊 / Fuwa Minato【にじさんじ】
>3492 :: NOT APEX :: Lamy Ch. 雪花ラミィ
>3201 :: APEX :: ラトナ・プティ -Ratna Petit -にじさんじ所属
>2859 :: NOT APEX :: SoraCh. ときのそらチャンネル
>2645 :: APEX :: 눈보라 / Bora Nun 【NIJISANJI KR】
>2521 :: APEX :: 白雪レイドーReid Channelー
>2508 :: NOT APEX :: Shizuka Rin Official
>2236 :: NOT APEX :: オリバー・エバンス / Oliver Evans 【にじさんじ】
>1874 :: APEX :: 橘ひなの / Hinano Tachibana
>1780 :: APEX :: エクス・アルビオ -Ex Albio-
>1776 :: APEX :: 三枝明那 / Saegusa Akina
>1474 :: APEX :: astel ch.アステル
>1444 :: NOT APEX :: 神楽すず
>1371 :: NOT APEX :: 緑仙のゲームちゃんねる
>1269 :: APEX :: 卯月コウ
>1140 :: APEX :: Uge Channel / 杏戸ゆげ 【ブイアパ】
>1123 :: NOT APEX :: Moona Hoshinova hololive-ID
>1085 :: APEX :: 奈羅花 - Naraka -
>989 :: APEX :: 椎名唯華 / Shiina Yuika
>980 :: APEX :: メイカちゃんねる
>965 :: APEX :: なずちゃんねる-Nazuna Channel
>906 :: NOT APEX :: 伏見ガク【にじさんじ所属】
>878 :: APEX :: Met Channel / 小森めと 【ブイアパ】
>856 :: APEX :: 雪城眞尋/Yukishiro Mahiro【にじさんじ所属】
>812 :: APEX :: Choco Ch. 癒月ちょこ
>535 :: APEX :: 英リサ.Hanabusa Lisa
>521 :: NOT APEX :: Anya Melfissa Ch. hololive-ID
>510 :: NOT APEX :: 久檻夜くぅ / Qualia Qu Ch.
>509 :: APEX :: える / Elu【にじさんじ】
>484 :: NOT APEX :: Siska Leontyne 【NIJISANJI ID】
>477 :: NOT APEX :: 七星みりり
>448 :: APEX :: 【にじさんじ】神田笑一
>418 :: NOT APEX :: 花京院ちえり
>412 :: NOT APEX :: 오지유 / Jiyu Oh 【NIJISANJI KR】
>389 :: NOT APEX :: えまおうがすと
>351 :: APEX :: 西園チグサ / Nishizono Chigusa
>314 :: APEX :: Rene Channel / 龍ヶ崎リン 【シュガリリ】
>311 :: NOT APEX :: 如月れん -Ren kisaragi-
>263 :: NOT APEX :: ベルモンド・バンデラス
>232 :: APEX :: 獅子神レオナ/レオナちゃんねる
>213 :: NOT APEX :: Mimi Channel / 白宮みみ 【あにまーれ】
>200 :: APEX :: 空澄セナ -Asumi Sena-
>147 :: NOT APEX :: 天川はの/AmakawaHano
>131 :: NOT APEX :: 射貫まといちゃんねる
>124 :: APEX :: 瀬戸 美夜子 - Miyako Seto
>120 :: NOT APEX :: 成瀬 鳴 / Naruse Naru【にじさんじ】
>116 :: APEX :: Ran Channel / 日ノ隈らん 【あにまーれ】
>74 :: NOT APEX :: Taka Radjiman【NIJISANJI ID】
>70 :: NOT APEX :: Amicia Michella【NIJISANJI ID】

Here are the totals
>NOT APEX: 121492
>APEX: 120404

APEX is surely popular, half the current audience is watching it, with 52% of that 120k being between Kuzuha, Hal, Kanae and Chihiro.

>> No.8219706

>>8218981
Coco leaving seemed to lessen some of Cover’s restrictions, like on collabs and such. It must have been a wake up call. I would say they seem to have improved a bit, but we will see.

>> No.8219725

>>8219690

Here is the breakdown from APEX
>27.5% :: Kuzuha Channel
>13.6% :: 渋谷ハル
>7.5% :: Kanae Channel
>4.1% :: 勇気ちひろ
>4.1% :: 一ノ瀬うるは
>4.0% :: 社築
>3.7% :: イブラヒム【にじさんじ】
>3.5% :: 甲斐田 晴 / Kaida Haru【にじさんじ】
>3.5% :: Nene Ch.桃鈴ねね
>3.1% :: ローレン・イロアス / Lauren Iroas【にじさんじ】
>3.0% :: 不破 湊 / Fuwa Minato【にじさんじ】
>2.7% :: ラトナ・プティ -Ratna Petit -にじさんじ所属
>2.2% :: 눈보라 / Bora Nun 【NIJISANJI KR】
>2.1% :: 白雪レイドーReid Channelー
>1.6% :: 橘ひなの / Hinano Tachibana
>1.5% :: エクス・アルビオ -Ex Albio-
>1.5% :: 三枝明那 / Saegusa Akina
>1.2% :: astel ch.アステル
>1.1% :: 卯月コウ
>0.9% :: Uge Channel / 杏戸ゆげ 【ブイアパ】
>0.9% :: 奈羅花 - Naraka -
>0.8% :: 椎名唯華 / Shiina Yuika
>0.8% :: メイカちゃんねる
>0.8% :: なずちゃんねる-Nazuna Channel
>0.7% :: Met Channel / 小森めと 【ブイアパ】
>0.7% :: 雪城眞尋/Yukishiro Mahiro【にじさんじ所属】
>0.7% :: Choco Ch. 癒月ちょこ
>0.4% :: 英リサ.Hanabusa Lisa
>0.4% :: える / Elu【にじさんじ】
>0.4% :: 【にじさんじ】神田笑一
>0.3% :: 西園チグサ / Nishizono Chigusa
>0.3% :: Rene Channel / 龍ヶ崎リン 【シュガリリ】
>0.2% :: 獅子神レオナ/レオナちゃんねる
>0.2% :: 空澄セナ -Asumi Sena-
>0.1% :: 瀬戸 美夜子 - Miyako Seto
>0.1% :: Ran Channel / 日ノ隈らん 【あにまーれ】

>> No.8219742
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8219742

Pekobros, this number ain't looking too good

>> No.8219754

>>8219742
Queen is dying...

>> No.8219812

>>8219656
I wouldn't call 4k really bad when she still gets 5k-6k for plenty of streams. She's not a 10k median streamer.

>> No.8219859
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8219859

>>8219690
>>8219725
Also

>Piyon nip bro, THANK YOU!
I can't bow or kneel deep enough to thank you for making that site.
Finally numberfaggotry can have them all in one place since VUMA died twice (by rounding numbers then by ragequitting)

>> No.8219935

>>8219725
>Nene in the top 10 of APEX streams right now
kek

>> No.8219949

>>8219742
Is it possible that YouTube has implemented a stronger anti-bot AI, which is why we have been seeing all this lower number craziness lately? Even the full assault on EN2.

>> No.8219960
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8219960

>>8219656
I remember that stream, it only went over 10k when Towa showed up an hour in.

>> No.8219962

>>8219656
>they kind of are.
True.

Nene median for 2021 until early august
>05483 (median) :: 07971 mean :: nene (149 streams)

It is close to her median, but a little below

>> No.8220044
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8220044

>>8219949
For fuck sake, 23k is right around the median for Pekora in 2021
>23414 (median) :: 24664 mean :: pekora (249 streams)

That's unimpressive both in the positive and the negative for being exactly what is expected of her streams, specially head to head with
>the return of Marine
(despite Marine never having gone anywhere)

>> No.8220061

>>8219725
Chigusa...

>> No.8220108

>>8220044
It wasn’t really directed entirely at Pekora, but was seen as an opportunity to bring up the question. It’s not just that, we’re seen a lot of weird stuff lately.

>> No.8220148

>>8220061
Her loud fans hates Apex, despite that she's still spamming it...

>> No.8220156

>>8220044
22k is low for pekocraft, then again it is late in JP.

>> No.8220239

>>8220156
Mio birtday "dammed" all the girls into the same slot. 22k is low for Pekocraft because nobody schedule theis streams overlapping with it, for the same reason nobody schedules their streams over Gura in the EN side.

But when there are special dates (like most of August) everybody loses one, two, there hour-slots and must either choose
>schedule early and cut the stream short
>schedule after and everybody streams together

>> No.8220305

>>8220156
>>8220239
To corroborate that: Pekora just picked up 2k people from the outflow of Flare-Haachama-Suisei collab.

>> No.8220325

>>8220239
yea 3d events seems to cut most of te girls slots and schdules hopefullly next month is more relaxed schdeule wise.

>> No.8220388

Weird how Kanae is a clear squad leader making calls and has most damage but the gap with Kanae is so big

>> No.8220423

>>8220388
Gap with Kuzuha*

>> No.8220447

>>8220388
Kanae is fine. He made 90k on his birthday showing an overlay off. He has a ton of dedicated gachis.

>> No.8220529

>>8220388
it used to be a 2-3x gap between Kuzuha and Kanae's CCV, but now it's like 4x. Part of me thinks that the recent exposure Kuzuha has gotten has pushed him even more into the "default" option for these group Apex streams, like how most people default to Pekora in group Holo collabs. He was always the default option, but now he's even moreso.
If you want to watch VSaikyou but you don't know who to watch, you either pick Kuzuha or Hal.

>> No.8220597

>>8216570
3:12 is made by Inotac featuring Hoshimachi Suisei, she doesn't have anything to do with that other than the voice. The new original song in her channel, Dazzling, I think it was commissioned by Sega to use in Chunithm, again I doubt she did anything herself other than lending her voice for the song. Idk about Mio's original though.

>> No.8220725

holo numbers are lower because EN has declined a lot and this means less EOPs in JP chats. Kuzuha is the same or better cause he consistently keeps a JP audience.

>> No.8220771

>>8220725
>he says, providing no numerical evidence for EITHER of the claims

>> No.8220795

>>8220725
>EN has declined a lot and this means less EOPs in JP chats
That's...some logic you got there. Meds?

>> No.8220796

>>8220725
>he lied as naturally as he breathed

>> No.8220797

>>8220771
Less EOPs means less viewers for JP streamers in Hololive, Pekora used to get 40k consistently for Minecraft.

>> No.8220849

>>8220797
That's not how proving things work anon. If you say A caused B you have to show B happened, A happend and prove the causal link between A and B

>> No.8220868

>>8220797
That was pre decemeber

>> No.8220870

>>8220849
average numbers going down over time has to have a reason, and Hololive has a big EOP audience. Seems logical, no?

>> No.8220879

>>8220725
EOPs are clipfags

>> No.8220895

>>8220771
Gura's lower karaoke numbers is a good example. Pekora also has lower percentage of English comments in her chat now.

>> No.8221031

>>8220870
>average numbers going down over time has to have a reason
Whose numbers? Pekora's? Her numbers have been the same for months. August so far is no exception.

>Hololive has a big EOP audience. Seems logical, no?
There has literally been no numerical evidence of how many EOPs watch streams. Only thing we know is a lot of their subs are likely EOPs.

>> No.8221055

>>8220797
Peko usually gets those numbers cuz she leeching from a big event or big collab all the time, but today Marine was streaming first so she gets half of the JP tourist.

>> No.8221069

>>8220870
>>8220895
Still not how proving things work. Looking "logical" doesn't prove anything, you should do your work and show A, show B and show A caused B

>> No.8221119

Literally every holo has at least one translator on LiveTL each day.
I am yet to find one on Nijisanji channels. Only Elira has them when she does JOP streams.

>> No.8221123

>>8221069
all of holoEN has declined except Ina who has a consistent following.

>> No.8221132

>>8220725
>Declined this much in few days
Retardchama
It's YT's AI problem

>> No.8221161

>>8221132
Kuzuha is immune somehow? Or Hal?

>> No.8221186

>>8221132
>Youtube bad
Is this new copium?

>> No.8221217
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8221217

>>8221069
We can objectively see that EN has declined after this stream. It was a Gura unarchived karaoke with alter-ego gimmick and it still lost to a random Kuzuha scrim.

>> No.8221244

Hololive has declined so much Twitter had to imprison three of its new talents for gaining too much interaction in just a short period.

And yt (still) culling subs for earning them effortlessly.

>> No.8221257

>>8220895
>Gura's lower karaoke numbers is a good example.

These are Gura's last 5 karaokes.
42k: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/R0Vp3s90YkA
34k: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/M7pJeLsAj50
44k: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/M_oGgV7nmko
35k: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Lo9HsoCncNc
48k (Valentines day): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/cdlJ4l-vWhI

>Pekora also has lower percentage of English comments in her chat now.
What's your evidence? Your eyes? LOL

>> No.8221262

>>8220895
Even if EN audiences have declined, HoloEN gen2 debut should bring many back. They probably were getting bored because Holo EN lacked variety. This is why it was assumed that some were going to Niji EN.

>> No.8221263
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8221263

>>8221123
Uh, numbers?

>> No.8221280

>>8221217
>random
kek

>> No.8221289

While on the subject of Pekora and "40k Minecraft streams" every single one of them happened in the context either of "PekoMoona" or "Usaken".

Pekora is a master story builder, the more it becomes a "soap opera" the higher her numbers grow.

Start of the "Joseph" arc
>2020-10-04 :: 34658/45645 :: 【Minecraft】超ゲリラ!怒りのアイアンゴーレムトラップでーーーーーーーきた!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-10-09 :: 36750/41909 :: 【Minecraft】ホロ鯖大好きマイクラ大好きぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-10-11 :: 34779/40074 :: 【Minecraft】ホロ鯖!マイクラで showぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-10-14 :: 48155/55842 :: 【minecraft】ホロ鯖!ゾンビピッグマンの雨を降らせるぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-10-16 :: 41555/56258 :: 【Minecraft】ホロ鯖戦士ぺこダム始動!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-10-20 :: 40778/46411 :: 【Minecraft】深夜のマイクラ!!!今日も元気!!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
Start of the "PekoMoona" arc
>2020-10-23 :: 39208/46399 :: 【Minecraft】ハロウィンだしすごいの作るぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-10-26 :: 40874/56895 :: 【Minecraft】本日もホロ鯖で楽しく遊ぶぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-10-30 :: 48329/61443 :: 【Minecraft】起きたら家が炎上してましたぺこ【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-03 :: 46692/67465 :: 【Minecraft】深夜のホロ鯖!色々やろうぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-03 :: 50816/57551 :: 【Minecraft】みんなでエンドシティを探索ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-06 :: 48061/58430 :: 【minecraft】人手不足?なら増やせばいいじゃないぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-10 :: 44232/56028 :: 【Minecraft】格安!兎田トレードセンター開設ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-13 :: 57656/67346 :: 【Minecraft】ぺこダム改造!!新たなる武器を装備せよ!!!と思いきや...ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-15 :: 51515/70069 :: 【Minecraft】深夜のクラフトisマインぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-18 :: 44077/56468 :: 【Minecraft】今日も楽しく遊ぼうの会!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-21 :: 40971/54445 :: 【Minecraft】ホロライブ運動会前日!最後の準備するぺこ~!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-11-21 :: 50330/63164 :: ホロライブ秋の大運動会!赤Aチーム視点【#ホロライブ運動会 / Minecraft】
>2020-11-26 :: 41963/55707 :: 【Minecraft】ぺこおおおおおおおおぺっこぺっこぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-12-01 :: 85004/98731 :: 【Minecraft】ムーナと一緒に兎田建設事務所を作るぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら・Moona Hoshinova】
End of "Pekomoona" arc, Start of Usaken 2021 arc
>2020-12-08 :: 32794/42905 :: 【Minecraft】ここに兎田建設在り!!!!!!!!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-12-12 :: 29785/41841 :: 【Minecraft】激論!復讐は有りか無しかぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-12-29 :: 33064/45469 :: 【Minecraft】ホロ鯖Ver1.16きtらああああ!!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2020-12-30 :: 41725/49247 :: 【Minecraft】兎田建設第二弾!エンドへ社員旅行そしてエリトラGetぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2021-01-29 :: 36334/48313 :: 【Minecraft】弓の有効活用を思いついた。ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2021-02-05 :: 30214/41637 :: 【Minecraft】将来の夢はお花屋さん!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2021-02-15 :: 34199/46048 :: 【Minecraft】間に合えええええええええええええええ!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2021-05-04 :: 29415/44962 :: 【Minecraft】ぺこらんどついに開園!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2021-05-16 :: 57917/67141 :: 【Minecraft】ウサ建公開面接ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2021-06-14 :: 32656/44107 :: 【Minecraft】ホロ鯖Ver1.17最新アプデきtらあああああああああああああああああああああぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2021-06-23 :: 29921/43901 :: 【Minecraft】燃えとる!!!ホロ鯖探偵ペコナン出動ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】
>2021-07-22 :: 33836/44598 :: 【Minecraft】ドッキリ作戦決行!そらトレイン出発!ぺこ!【ホロライブ/兎田ぺこら】

>> No.8221350

>>8221217
I'm not even going to get started on how literally no vtuber gets 42k on a karaoke stream without 3D or a special announcement.

>random Kuzuha scrim
lol you fuckin retard

>> No.8221372
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8221372

>>8221262
No wonder NijiEN's numbers are so high lately

>> No.8221421

>>8221372
kek

>> No.8221425

>>8221217
An anticipated tournament is a random scrim?

>> No.8221437

>>8221372
You post this image a lot but never mention Pomu and Elira who inclined drastically.

>> No.8221464

>>8221437
prove him wrong anon, post your own image

>> No.8221474

>>8221372
gura killer...

>> No.8221475

>>8221372
I pointed that out as possibly being because of the HoloEN Gen2 announcement. Do you not agree?
>>8220895
>Gura's lower karaoke numbers is a good example
I’m the one who was first predicting the EN decline, and I can still say your post is retarded. Gura’s last karaoke wasn’t a sign of the decline.

>> No.8221487

>>8221372
I feel like if they switched Rosemi and Petra's VA, it would have worked better.

>> No.8221544
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8221544

>>8221217
Lol She doesn't need those CCV, she got 50k likes with that stream in 1hrs while your "King" got 9.5k

>> No.8221585
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8221585

>>8221437
>Did someone say Elira?

>> No.8221600

>>8221350
>>8221425
It's still just a scrim no matter what. Comparing the amount of buffs Gura had stacked for that stream would be like comparing Kuzuha playing in the actual tournament.

>> No.8221610
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8221610

Gura schedule
>Minecraft JP exploration
This should bring numbers
>APEX
Her first time?

Both 9AM JST, this could be fun to pay attention

>> No.8221620
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8221620

>>8221372
NijiEN collab here we go~

>> No.8221635

>>8221610
>Her first time?
Nope, Ame took her first time

>> No.8221649

>>8221610
Explore JP server…. neat…

>> No.8221680

in 11 days would Marine reach 1.60 million?

>> No.8221687

>>8221610
>APEX
Second time, previous one is 2020/12 (after YT bug) 27,616 collab with Ame

>> No.8221693

>>8221372
Bruh. The whole company is literally nothing without Kuzuha. How did it turn out like this?

>> No.8221697

So Gura is actually going to JP server now. Cover must have loosened many restrictions.

>> No.8221735

>>8221585
SEAmonkey pls. Ollie got even worse numbers for that debuff game.

>> No.8221742
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8221742

>>8221585

>> No.8221749

>>8221437
Elira has reclined drastically recently because of her constant internet/technical problems

>> No.8221751

>>8221693
*without Apex

>> No.8221821
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8221821

>>8221697
Coco's department definitely has given them the wake up call. Good for them.

>> No.8221859

>>8219690
someone bomb that EA headquarters already

>> No.8221883

>>8221610
My prediction is that Gura will have pretty high startup because it's her second time but decline faster than others cause she is not good at APEX.

>> No.8221919

>>8221883
People don’t watch Gura for skill

>> No.8221929

>>8221697
It sounds more like they wanted to make it an event. Kiara mentioned recently that she actually wasn’t supposed to talk about it at all (the existence of the servers being linked).
Having JP and EN linked means there’s no reason for permissions hell, ID is getting their own server as well that I’m assuming will get linked as well.

>> No.8221937
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8221937

>>8221600
>amount of buffs Gura had stacked
KEK, reminded me of this webm (and of Overlord in general)

>> No.8221963

>>8221610
>>Minecraft JP exploration
80k floor and can probably go as high as 120k.

>> No.8221983

>>8221963
>80k floor and can probably go as high as 120k.
You're crazy

>> No.8222004

>>8221963
Another screencap

>> No.8222013

>>8221697
Well, they're going to make a portal connect EN and JP servers. So maybe that's why she decided to visit it? But it's not JP primetime tho

>> No.8222037

>>8221983
Don't forget that HoloEN2 will bring a lot of people back to watch the old HoloEN.

>> No.8222063

>>8221697
>>8221821
What? Gura already visited the server long ago with Moona and Ame, Ina visited it by herself too right after the usaken festival, and Kiara regularly played in the JP sever.

>> No.8222084

>>8221600
>Comparing the amount of buffs Gura had stacked for that stream would be like comparing Kuzuha playing in the actual tournament.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Kuzuha in a tournament is 50-60k range, literally his most buffed state apart from koshien and celeb-collabs. Apex is the most popular game in Japan right now, Kuzuha is coming off the hottest streak of his life after gaining 50k subs in a week, and this entire week is Apex week for vtubers.

Even if you call it just another scrim, Gura has done multiple unarchived karaokes in the past 3 months so Kuzuha's scrim weeks are literally rarer events than her karaokes.

>> No.8222118

>>8221963
You're fucking retarded

>> No.8222121

>>8222063
>Gura already visited the server long ago
They are linking the worlds together now. Not sure what you don’t understand.

>> No.8222161

>>8222084
Except this wasn't a typical karaoke. Her previous one got 34k. This is how much she would get now if she wasn't doing alter-ego gimmcky stuff which is obviously a huge buff.

>> No.8222162

>>8221919
Likely start with 12K-15K, up to 30K then drop to 20K(without tourists) . Still higher than her recent average number

>> No.8222163

>>8221937
I think Gura can do a Karaoke collab with JP senpais
They can just sing together no need to talk much

>> No.8222167

>>8222121
Nobody was talking about the server portal.

>> No.8222191

>>8222121
So? It has nothing to do with Cover's restrictions like those 2 anons were weirdly thanking Coco for. HoloEN could've always gone to the JP server whenever they wanted to.

>> No.8222202

>>8222161
>this doesn't count! She was streaming good!

>> No.8222216

>>8222167
Yes they are. It’s just not listened in every sentence. The whole “Coco's department definitely has given them the wake up call.”, is still valid. Much has changed.

>> No.8222225

2021 Hololive birthday streams comparison (updated for Chammers and Mio)
01/06 - Amelia - 41,080 max viewers/$13,279 total SC
01/12 - Pekora (3D) - 74,096 max viewers/$32,279 total SC
01/15 - Risu - 3,619 max viewers/$1,038 total SC
01/22 - Rushia (3D) - 62,519 max viewers/$59,043 total SC
01/30 - Polka (3D) - 34,211 max viewers/$14,892 total SC
02/14 - Choco (3D) - 27,503 max viewers/$10,646 total SC
02/15 - Moona - 29,360 max viewers/$3,548 total SC
02/17 - Aki (3D, see note 1) - 13,503 max viewers/$19,356 total SC
02/22 - Okayu (3D) - 79,123 max viewers/$39,385 total SC
03/02 - Nene - 33,922 max viewers/$38,935 total SC
03/05 - Miko - 45,616 max viewers/$26,802 total SC
03/12 - Anya - 3,318 max viewers/$3,285 total SC
03/22 - Suisei (see note 2) - 40,732 max viewers/$14,464 total SC
04/02 - Flare (3D) - 39,748 max viewers/$35,479 total SC
04/04 - Calliope - 32,519 max viewers/$57,931 total SC
04/22 - Kanata (3D) - 96,348 max viewers/$39,451 total SC
05/15 - Sora (3D) - 27,350 max viewers/$20,479 total SC
05/20 - Ina - 38,020 max viewers/$41,478 total SC
05/23 - Roboco (3D) - 36,383 max viewers/$10,174 total SC
06/06 - Watame (3D) - 68,355 max viewers/$45,407 total SC
06/17 - Coco (3D) - 91,028 max viewers/$69,095 total SC
06/20 - Gura - 54,693 max viewers/$51,265 total SC
07/01 - AZKi (3D) - 30,712 max viewers/$2,976 total SC
07/02 - Subaru (see note 3) - 63,917 max viewers/$38,755 total SC
07/06 - Kiara - 38,123 max viewers/$31,793 total SC
07/15 - Iofi - 4,961 max viewers/$2,608 total SC
07/22 - Matsuri (3D) - 47,673 max viewers/$12,029 total SC
07/30 - Marine (3D) - 124,596 max viewers/$12,340 total SC
08/08 - Towa (3D) - 67,332 max viewers/$23,110 total SC
08/10 - Haato - 21,258 max viewers/$14,925 total SC
08/20 - Mio (3D) - 58,137 max viewers/$24,383 total SC

Note 1: Aki's 3D birthday stream was delayed for a month because of Bloom, and on the day of the stream Youtube was unusable for many people
Note 2: Suisei's birthday and anniversary are the same day, she did a countdown stream for members only so superchats for that aren't visible
Note 3: Subaru's was also a 1 million subs celebration, no countdown since it would've been on the day of Coco's graduation

Top 10 viewers
Marine - 124,596
Kanata - 96,348
Coco - 91,028
Okayu - 79,123
Pekora - 74,096
Watame - 68,355
Towa - 67,332
Subaru - 63,917
Rushia - 62,519
Mio - 58,137

Top 10 superchats
Coco - $69,095
Rushia - $59,043
Calliope - $57,931
Gura - $51,265
Watame - $45,407
Ina - $41,478
Kanata - $39,451
Okayu - $39,385
Nene - $38,935
Subaru - $38,755

Median 3D viewers - 58,137
Median 2D viewers (excl. ID) - 39,428
Median viewers (ID) - 4,290
Median superchats (excl. ID) - $26,802

Upcoming birthdays
09/08 - Botan, 09/09 - Reine, 10/01 - Korone, 10/05 - Fubuki, 10/10 - Luna

>> No.8222259

>>8221610
wrong thread chumfags

>> No.8222288

>>8221963
fuck off falseflagger

>> No.8222295

>>8222216
They aren't. Also Gura visiting the JP sever in this case has nothing to do with the portal because the portal still doesn't exist, it won't exist by the time Gura visists the server, and probably won't exist for a good month still.

>> No.8222302

>>8222191
The correlation between when Cover knew Coco was leaving, and the allowance of MANY Collabs which were not possible before, is unquestionable. You have to be one of the most dishonest people possible, if pretend not to see any correlation.

>> No.8222330

>>8222161
By that logic, her 2nd last unarchived karaoke was also not a typical karaoke, it was a bardcore-only gimmick karaoke.

>This is how much she would get now if she wasn't doing alter-ego gimmcky stuff which is obviously a huge buff.
Go look up how much of a buff it is for Fubuki who does these alter-ego singing streams. (It's not)

>> No.8222366

>>8222295
the portal will be built tomorrow

>> No.8222369

>>8222225
Kanae made $90000 for his birthday doing nothing other than showing a new overlay. No 3D. Just Kanae.

>> No.8222399

>>8222302
>allowance of MANY Collabs which were not possible before
The only collabs that were not allowed were Coco collabs. Amelia and Gura visited the JP server long ago with Moona as a guide. What collabs do you have in mind that weren't possible before?

>You have to be one of the most dishonest people possible, if pretend not to see any correlation.
Chill with the hyperbole, faggot

>> No.8222406

>>8222295
>Gura visiting the JP sever in this case has nothing to do with the portal because the portal still doesn't exist
All of the recent collabs, with the JP server link, including the Reddit shit post review collabs, are the point in itself.

>> No.8222444

>>8222302
I see a correlation but, a very least on the EN side of management, I see another
>Some of the talent, like Kiara and Calli, pushing harder for the things they wanted to do
I attribute it more to this factor (like them fighting for a VShojo collab) than to anything related to Coco.

On the EN side it surely looks more like the talent growing a spine to pushback than EN being mindful of whatever happened across the pacific

>> No.8222467

>>8222366
>>8222406
my understanding is that they are building some structures around the portal on both servers, tomorrow they will build the JP side but not the EN side

>> No.8222473

>>8222369
What's his 2021 total superchat? That could shed some line on whether his audience saved their money to blow the whole was in one time or if that's his norm

>> No.8222500

>>8222399
>The only collabs that were not allowed were Coco collabs.
Why were they allowed along with the more frequent collabs between JP and EN, even with Haachama doing many with EN now? What changed then, for them to even make them connect the servers together? Can you stop playing dumb?
>Gura visited the JP server long ago
Then stop pretending that it isn’t becoming much more common now after Coco left. This is a giant fucking change.

>> No.8222521

>>8221610
Most of these programs will get more than her median number. She's going to incline her August numbers. If she does a karaoke stream on 28, then she could reach 20k median.

>> No.8222525

>>8222500
>This is a giant fucking change.
A minecraft visit is a giant change? lmao stop sucking that dead dragon's cock

>> No.8222526

>>8222406
>including the Reddit shit post review collabs
kek, no, at very least the Irys one was 100% Haachama ignoring any existing restriction and doing her thing.

Irys didn't even knew it would happen and posted a "???" on her schedule for that week, with a dlsclaimer that "it will only happen if the collab partner schedule it in her schedule", which for Haachama means a 50/50

>> No.8222644

>There is no change, because Gura visited the JP server long time ago
>Gura recently visited the JP server when Coco was leaving, then will again another time soon, and will be also be visiting it much more often as they’re linking the servers together, BUT… this is no difference BECAUSE she once did it a long time ago.

>> No.8222683

>>8222525
>>8222526
Read: >>8222644

>> No.8222684

>>8222525
Ancient Chinese medicine.

>> No.8222700

>>8222369
I'd be interested in doing a comparison for the niji birthdays but I'm not sure if it would generate enough interest in the thread to be worth going through them all
>>8222473
$351,685 at the end of July, which is very strong but when a quarter of the total is from one stream it's clear people were saving up for that

>> No.8222703

>>8222500
Anon, are you losing your mind? HoloEN has been doing collabs with HoloJP like literally right after the collab ban ended for them.

> Roboco Ame Apex
> Ame Haachama Clubhouse 51
> Korone Calli Bomb game
> Gen 5 and HoloEN Among Us
> HoloEN and HoloJP Among Us 2
> Kiara Pekora minecraft collab
> Kiara Nene Off-collab karaoke
> Nene and Polka giving Ina a JP server tour
> Moona giving Ame and Gura a JP server tour
> Haachama giving Ame a more detailed JP server MC tour
> Haachama invading the EN server, proclaiming herself to be HoloEN gen 0 and killing herself

These were all around Oct-Nov 2020, which is presumably before Coco told Cover she was graduating. Collabs between JP and EN were never blocked, just Coco and EN.

>> No.8222718

>>8222644
Explain Kiara then.

>> No.8222788

>>8222703
Chumbuds like to cope with the theory that Cover was specifically restricting only her from collabing with JP.

>> No.8222810

>>8222700
>but I'm not sure if it would generate enough interest in the thread
Just put in the same post. It will generate the same interest

>> No.8222819

>>8222703
>because EN to JP collabs have happened in the past, that doesn’t mean they have become more common now.
They are unquestionably more common now. Especially with the sacred cow called Gura.

>> No.8222827

Why don't you guys numberfag Fubuki and Korone?
They are the faces of Hololive too
They are one the most well known Holomembers of all time

>> No.8222857

>>8222788
Nah they were striating them all to various degrees, but not equally.

>> No.8222868

I'm surprised nobody is numberfagging fanarts.

>> No.8222870

>>8222644
Kiara goes to the JP server quite regularly since 2020 and collabs with a dozen JP senpais either in games or Holotalk. All the EN members are free to do so if they want... there's just no much to do on the JP server because they have nothing and the resources are drained in that server already.

>Gura recently visited the JP server when Coco was leaving, then will again another time soon, and will be also be visiting it much more often as they’re linking the servers together
Are you insinuating that HoloEN was only allowed to go to Usaken fes because of Coco too? Like Kiara was literally a member of Usaken long before Coco's graduation.

>> No.8222888

>>8222703
Also Haachama + Takamori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPK9_9Hvla4

Which incidentally was one of the the reasons Haachama more or less stopped doing things with EN for a while, the language barrier was a whole lot more than she was used.
People incorrectly assume it was a management thing but it was a "Haachama realizes her listening comprehension is nowhere as good as she thought leading to poor collabs" thing

>> No.8222904

>>8222827
Famous ≠ Good numbers

>> No.8222905

>>8222868
gura wins, not much to talk about

>> No.8222918
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8222918

>>8222827
>Why don't you guys numberfag Fubuki and Korone?
Big numbers > Small numbers. Comparing small numbers with even smaller numbers is
>webm related

>> No.8222941

>>8221437
Pomu just got a boost because she just returned after getting sick or whatever. Elira streams have been floundering.

>> No.8222954

>>8222868
>I'm surprised nobody is numberfagging fanarts.
I tried, on Pixiv, but it won't accept my .ru yandex email to sign up (for some reason?) so I'm locked out of the NSFW, leading to poor numbers

>> No.8222964

Did Holo EN2 subs get slashed again? I remember them being well over 100k, then YT kicking them down to ~60k, now some are down to 40k...
What irks me even more are the lack of fans claiming their sub got removed unknowingly.

>> No.8222974

>>8222819
>Especially with the sacred cow called Gura.
LOL You mean that 1 DBD collab with Roboco and 2 IDs?
Nothing is stopping Gura from collabing with JPs other than her own crippling insecurity and fear of the language barrier. She doesn't even ask for collabs within her own gen, others ask her.

>> No.8222994

>>8222964
It did and will continue happenning. it was so overt not even trolls are trolling about it anymore and people came to sense and decided to hold off until the proper debut to resub

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>>8222868
Top 3
1.Gura
2.Pekora
3.Marine

>> No.8223042

>>8222868
Niji dumpsters Holo in terms of total number of fanarts. Holo dumpsters Niji in terms of number of fanart with lots of twitter likes (80k+). It's not very interesting to numberfag.

>> No.8223052

>>8223016
have you tried the kana/kanji spellings?

>> No.8223066

>>8222870
>Kiara
Coco said for the EN girls to fight against Cover’s restrictions, and Kiara was agreeing with her. Coco was also seeminly restricted from collabs. Kiara seems to be the most rebellious one, and likely fought for much of what she got,

Also source (go to 1:55:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV-VghW7SaM

>> No.8223069

>>8222888
>People incorrectly assume it was a management thing
Seems weirdly common with hololive and it turns out it was just the liver being a menhera later, it seems like a lot of holofags don't even watch streams desu

>> No.8223072

>>8222964
>What irks me even more are the lack of fans claiming their sub got removed unknowingly.
I've seen a few anons talking about it tho, both here and in the holo general.

>> No.8223126

>>8223016
So Gura is the most popular one

>> No.8223134

>>8223066
So if Kiara has apparently been fighting against Cover restrictions since last year to get all those collabs, what difference did Coco leaving make?

>> No.8223142

>>8222827
Fubuki and Korone's numbers are all over the place. Neither of them play Minecraft often so they don't have a solid buff game to fall back on. Both obviously don't give a fuck about numbers and just play whatever games they want, debuffs and all. They're both in the top half for CCV in Hololive, but not the very top. Both have huge numbers potential for group collabs.

>> No.8223161

>>8223069
Nah, it was less of a "menhera" thing, Haachama had a history of being belittled because of her poor english comprehension (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0vcrCC6xLA)) and being the butt of a joke she couldn't understand hit somehow harder on her than it should, being a lightweight joke as it was.

It put her off EN stuff for a while, which she herself declared "I'll return to the EN Server when my english improves" (which it did)

>> No.8223176

>>8223134
A wake up call to Cover, as the other anon said.

>> No.8223212

>>8223176
But Cover already allowed Kiara all those collabs in 2020 before Coco even decided to graduate.

>> No.8223227

>>8223042
Not anymore, Hololive passed Nijisanji on Pixiv for some time now.

>> No.8223243

>>8222964
It’s been talked about a lot.
People who resubbed keep getting their subs removed.

>> No.8223252
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8223252

Fubuki's numbers are pretty bad considering her amount of subs. At least half of her subs must be EOP clipfags who don't actually watch her.

>> No.8223259

>>8223212
Because it’s not just about Kiara being rebellious enough to fight, but about the others who are not. If anything it should be the opposite, and Cover should have encouraged the collabs.

>> No.8223301

>>8223259
But it wasn't just Kiara, Ame, Ina and Calli have been collabing with JP since last year too: >>8222703

>> No.8223341

>>8223259
>and Cover should have encouraged the collabs.
kek, that's not how Cover rolls. Here is the alternate universe where it is Cover dictating collabs
>Gura collabed 5 times with Haachama already, it must be Cover forcing her to do it! Black company, black company!
>Ina never collabbed with Iofi despite both being artists while Iofi collabed with Kiara 3 times already. Cover must have forced them to prop Kiara up, favoritism, favoritism!

With the exception of legal and accounting Cover should keep their paws off the girls decisions as a whole, nor impede neither force

>> No.8223345
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8223345

>>8223042
rumao
Also the only fanarts I saw on twitter with over 100k likes were Ina ones and that one of Marine making soup, not sure what else there is

>> No.8223363

>>8223066
But the point is, Cover never restricted EN x JP collabs, those were happening in abundance already in 2020. At most, they restricted EN x Coco collabs, which they quickly relented on once Coco leaked it. The restrictions Coco was talking about here is more about content and types of streams.

Also, Kiara once said that she loves Jenma and Jenma has never shut down her ideas before. Unfortunately, I don't have a timestamp for that. I do have a timestamp for Ame saying that it doesn't happen nearly as often as people say it does.
https://youtu.be/99A-sYbD__I?t=3445

>> No.8223366

>>8223252
>Fubuki's numbers are pretty bad considering her amount of subs.
Long winded way to say
>there is no correlation between sub count and CCV

>> No.8223377

>>8223227
>>8223345
>pixiv
Try twitter/azuregallery, you clueless EOPs.

>> No.8223391

>>8223301
The argument was never that a mix between JP and EN never occurred, but rather that they are becoming more common now. Even a link between servers for example.

The argument that Cover didn’t have restrictions on the girls has also refuted by both Coco and Kiara, who also agreed with her.

>> No.8223443

>>8223391
That restriction was only for Coco tho, because they obviously didn't want the chink mob on the EN side too, they already had enough of that on the JP side.

>> No.8223463

>>8223377
Most of Twitter artists have pixiv accounts
newfagchama...

>> No.8223475

>>8223377
cope

>> No.8223509

>>8223227
>>8223345
Sigh, I hate numberfagging fanart, but here.

Hololive fanarts: 379k. Fanart over 100k likes: 28
https://azure-gallery.net/illusts?query=department%3A%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96&sortby=favo%3Adesc&r18=true&status=0

Nijisanji fanarts: 638k Fanart over 100k likes: 5
https://azure-gallery.net/illusts?query=department%3A%E3%81%AB%E3%81%98%E3%81%95%E3%82%93%E3%81%98&sortby=favo%3Adesc&r18=true&status=0

>> No.8223527

>>8223463
>>8223475
Don't look at Kuzuha's art tag compared to Pekora or Gura. You'll be shocked.

>> No.8223556

>>8223509
Total likes onegai

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