/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>82114003
BAU BAU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aThUfmKQgaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aThUfmKQgaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aThUfmKQgaY

SEX WITH FUWAWA

>>82114311
HECK YEAH

>>82114003
>>82114311
BAU YEAH

>>82114003
BAU BAU
>>82114311
HECK YEAH

Am I a whore if I consider myself a Novelite, Jailbird and Pebble but a Ruffian first?

>>82114551
a fucking adventrix

>>82114551
That's just an Adventrix.

>>82114003
BAU BAU
>>82114311
HECK YEAH

>>82114551
Sounds like you're an Adventrix. You're only a whore if you tell multiple girls you love them

>>82114551
adventchad

I'm trying to watch the Shiori 3D and the story larp at the beginning is filtering me hard
I hope they just do a proper concert for their debut instead of doing meme demon guard dogs xddd bullshit

>>82113991
puppies should not be this erotic

>>82114748
You should watch someone else

>>82114551
I watch every HoloEN but one, and a bunch of JPs. That's the whole appeal of Hololive vs a solo vtuber

>>82114803
>I watch every HoloEN but one
ERB?

>>82114551
That just makes you an AdventGOD

>>82114839
No, Ina

>>82114748
Terrible take, the purpose of larping is having them interact with physical objects and make cute movements and poses to showcase the 3D.
If you want a concert skip next week and wait for Breaking Dimension.

>>82114929

>>82114929
Based, fuck that frigid Korean bitch.

>>82114952
>If you want a concert skip next week and wait for Breaking Dimension.
Where they will get 1-2 appearances max and won't have any time to mess around and do host/variety segment.

夏だ!
海だ!
水着のFUWAMOCOだ!!

>>82114929
>Ina
I always forget she exists for some reason

>>82115021
cute boy

>>82115021
when the fuck does this release

>>82114952
They can do some variety parts and strike poses without wasting half the stream on LARPing.
If you want a good example look at IRyS' 3D debut. Plenty of songs and concert performances with some short and sweet variety bullshit inbetween.

Give me a good reason I should care about events exclusive to japan

>>82115039
She never streamed that often
She doesn't really have much of a presence in collabs aside from the one time she cried wishing Myth could meet in person which was 4 years ago
She doesn't do her drawing gimmick really anymore, her Holo drawing streams were the best thing about her

>>82115085
Stick to watching IRyS then? They love the LARPing you hate and won't stop doing it.

>>82115074
The 9th 18JST

>>82115117
You should care because they are taking time, effort, and sleep away from things FUWAMOCO could be working on for their fans.

>>82115117
why would i do that? if you aren’t able to attend those events personally then you have no reason to care

>>82114748
I hope the entire debut is in-character story larp and the only songs are right at the end and sung by Pero

It's weird to think that in a quarter of all their streams they're slowly bleeding out of their vaginas

>>82115142
What is wrong with you anon
And no, they barely do any story telling lore bullshit at all. They stay in character, yes, but they don't build up an extensive universe of their powers and bullshit history and go on imaginary adventures and whatever the fuck else, which is what we are talking about here

Honestly it's pretty obvious they will do a LOT of singing and dancing in their debut regardless, there's not a chance in hell they aren't with how fucking hard they've been practicing the last few months

>>82115194
>I hope the entire debut is in-character story larp
heh yeah
>only songs are right at the end and sung by Pero
DIE

>>82115190
It can make them more popular in a merch sense but that only gives them more opportunities to have even more japan/china exclusive events in the future but this means absolutely nothing to the majority of their fans because the average person isn't going to suddenly plan a trip to another country to participate in these events that have limited/gacha merch.

>>82115298
vaginas are disgusting

>>82114748
I prefer kayfabe to "Hey it's me the streamer showcasing my 3d model don't forget to use the hashtag"

>>82115085
Completely disagree. IRyS was trying too hard to be HoloJP and wanting to speedrun to her 3D LIVEs and ended up with a poor man's version of a Birthday one. 3D Debut only happens once, 3D LIVEs happen every year. Sometimes more than one a year depending on the occasion. I hope FWMC don't spam guests and the kind of stuff you do at a Birthday Live because they couldn't wait a few more months for their birthdays and end up wasting a once in a lifetime moment.
And I say this as someone who thinks most 3D debuts are incredibly boring and 3D LIVEs are infinitely better.

>>82115137
Wow thats rough, I feel a bit bad for her fans now.

>>82115350
I'm a little put off when they talk about models and riggers too, but I like the hashtag shilling.

>>82115298
That means they're still fertile and need to be bred immediately

>>82115358
>3D Debut only happens once, 3D LIVEs happen every year.
This, I hope they have as much fun as they can with it now. They'll have plenty of birthday and anniversaries to celebrate in the years ahead.

>>82115370
Didn't Raora completely replace her anyway

>>82115137
She was a total downer in Bae's recent debate thing

>>82115358
To be fair Holos don't NEED to have their 1 guaranteed 3D Live slot a year be a Birthday Concert. Technically you could also use it for whatever the fuck else you like at any point in the year, Birthday Concert is just the default since it's generally the most popular content.
They can also try and get more 3Ds if they approach Cover with a solid plan that has potential to do well, PLENTY of Holos do 3D variety streams literally all the time. Additional 3Ds past the 1 guaranteed one every year just aren't handed to you on a silver platter, you have to convince staff/higher ups it's a good use of studio time.

>>82115421
Pretty sure they would have the most fun fulfilling their life long dream and acting like idols on their own personal stage

>>82115511
>invite the introvert hikki girl to a debate
>half the other people she doesn't even know that well
>what could go wrong

>>82115602
Maybe she shouldn't be in entertainment business then

>>82115435
I don't know honestly I don't watch either of them

Where the fuck is all the Mocobunny art

>>82115435
No? They aren't similar at all beyond being "artists". That's like saying FuwaMoco replaced Mori or something since they both make music

>>82115632
>musicians should all quit their jobs because they can't do stand-up comedy

>>82115593
Which is why it's good they get to choose how to stage their 3D debuts, isn't it? We can just wait and see.

>>82114748
They will.
Being idols is literally their dream.
They will have some short variety sections inbetween songs for the mandatory Advent call ins, but other than that and briefly showing off their models they are just going to shotgun songs.

>>82115712
>both make music
kek this is fuwamoco’s first original song

>>82115370
>>82115511
The best Holos are the ones who NEED Hololive either for happiness or for money or both. Ina doesn't because she was happy as she was and her main job makes enough money.

>>82115799
That's my point anon...

>>82115799
Retardchama...

>>82115358
3D debuts didn't even used to be lives. Many still aren't. 3D debuts were never really THAT special.

>>82115712
Mori makes music, FuwaMoco just performs music.

>>82115858
They are special by virtue of being unique. It's a shame to waste that by making it just another 3D LIVE with half the company as guests and rehearsed unfunny MC sections.

>>82115298
Would you suck the blood out of their vaginas?

>>82115892
Mori makes trash that does not qualify as music. End of a Life was her only good song and she invalidated it immediately afterwards with her actions.

>>82115949
They aren't unique though, in any way at all. It's just the (usually) first time they show off their 3D models.
There's no special formula to it, nor anything unique. What they do is up to them.

>>82115822
>>82115850
fuwamoco don’t make music idiots, that’s the point. a year in and all they’ve done are covers save for baudols which is only 3 days old. not comparable to mori in the slightest.

>>82115949
What revisionist crackpipe are you smoking? 3D debuts were always either
>Get ogled by your genmates giving fanservice with weird camera angles
>Rehearsed MC sections
>3D Live
>Some combination of the above
What is the totally unique 3D debut you are thinking of?

>>82115954
I lost my virginity to a girl on her period, it was awful

>>82115820
Yeah I guess you're right

>>82115970
Your subjective take on her music is irrelevant. Mori makes her own music. FUWAMOCO do not.

>>82116022
Retardchama...

>>82116022
English is hard huh?

>>82116086
okay you’re just a retard lmao

SEX HAVERS OUT
OUT!

>>82116025
It's the first time seeing their "real" form that's pretty special

>>82115949
There's been 3D debuts that were
>concerts with maybe 5 mins of non-merch shilling MC max
>sports/ workout streams where they just did push ups, sit ups, jumping jacks, etc for an hour
>full variety where they had various call ins and did nothing but poses and random embarassing challenges no singing or roleplay at all
>story roleplay where they acted out a play or built on their lore
>pure zatsu where they chatted and reacted to the chat live with no interactions with other Holos or a set program
and that's just off the top of my head, there's probably been countless more, there's been almost 80 of these Holo 3D debuts after all so far

>>82116124
Please devote more time to your eigo lessons before posting again.

>>82115892
Mori writes lyrics, AZKi and Kanata make music. If you want to be pedantic at least be right.

>>82116123
you tell me: >>82115712
>That's like saying FuwaMoco replaced Mori or something since they both make music
>since they both make music
this isn’t true. raora and ina are both artists and draw (or at least ina did draw regularly) and make drawing streams. fuwamoco do not make music like mori does. in fact they don’t make music period, thus invalidating your retarded comparison to illustrate your retarded point. are you slow?

Ina and Mococo double naizuri

>>82116179
you’re brown and illiterate. why?

Stop replying, you filthy brown ESL. You're disgusting.

>>82116128
Fuck off Pero you goddamn rapist

>>82116283
>running away
grim, expected of a brazilian

>>82116171
All of these except the first are unique moments where they share their 3D forms for the first time and are never replicated as they fall into the 3D LIVE / Variety Show formula for the events to come.
Your first 3D stream only happens once, your Birthday 3D LIVE happens every year. Making the first 3D stream the same as any birthday 3D live is a waste. That is my point.
If you want to do it a concert, at least make it different from the usual 3D LIVE and make it a full solo, something that is much more rare in a birthday live, since the guest meta is part of the package.

>>82115716
correct
hololive talents should be required to do manzai

Now that the dust has settled, why did Baudols flop?

>>82116234
Ina hasn't drawn "regularly" for years anon. That's why they made the comparison.

>>82116234
>this isn’t true. raora and ina are both artists and draw (or at least ina did draw regularly) and make drawing streams
Raora is an illustrator that relies on commissions from individuals, like doing indie vTuber designs
Ina is a pro freelance illustrator that works with companies like SquareEnix/Aniplex/miHoYo and has rates high enough for her to consider being part of the most prolific vTubing company and among the Top 0.001% of vTubers in the world a hobby at best

>Mori and FWMC both sing, they are both (all three) singers and make singing streams.
Do you see my point?
This isn't a slight against anyone or anything by the way, it's just fucking stupid to compare the girls when their personalities, content, and communities are all so vastly different.
Ina isn't a discount Raora, and Raora isn't a discount Ina. They are just Ina and Raora.

cum hungry puppies

>off-topic holo vs off-topic holo
>start shitting on the on-topic holo to pivot and defend his initial position
>all reports ignored
bravo, jannies.

>>82116497
0 promotion

Since FuwaMoco are two persons they should get twice the studio time and 2 hours for their 3D instead of 1, it's only fair

>>82116416
>hololive talents should be required to do manzai
Baused and correct, I agree.

>>82116608
For Debut it's fine but they better get either two 3D birthday streams or twice the time if Cover want to continue being jews and selling two sets of merch.

>>82116584
shut the fuck up tranny

>>82116675
This user is brown

>>82116675
You have a micropenis and are jealous of a third world country. Your life has no meaning.

Their iconic full-body head shaking is going to be gone in 3D

>>82116608
>>82116656
>For Debut it's fine but they better get either two 3D birthday streams or twice the time if Cover want to continue being jews and selling two sets of merch.
I agree, otherwise what's the point of giving them different birthdays?

>>82116702
>>82116702
>replying twice
you’re dilating again

i did a poo poo in my daipy

>>82116796
I dont know what that means, but you sure seem familiar :] I wonder why?

>>82116858
>I wonder why?
your bleeding axe wound is noticeable to everyone around you KEKAROO

>>82116851
>i did a poo poo in my daipy
Fuwamommy.... i need changy... pwease....

>>82116608
They were only finally let in because they agreed to only count as one Holo for all accounting and allotment purposes. Maybe they could argue they proved themselves enough to not have that restriction now though. That was probably why they wanted to hit a million in their first year so bad. Well, even if they missed it, maybe they can still use their wish for it.

>>82116894
nta but men can't really tell if a woman is on her period, right?

>82116894
>no u
i won

>>82116796
>seething so hard he can't even reply correctly
grim

>>82116947
>too scared to even reply directly
KEKY you fucking lost

>>82116564
>Moco-chan you can't do that infront of the wuffians ehehehe

>>82116946
There's a number of things that can make it obvious, especially if you're familiar with the woman, like emotional irregularity or sometimes smell

It will be funny when they come begging for their en fans to come back

>82116989
so angwy
guess i really did win huh ;]

>>82117009
>smell
what.

>>82117036
My adorable princess...

>>82116908
It would just look bad for Cover if one of their birthdays is 3D and the other is a regular stream. And so would having a single 3D stream for both that lasts the same amount of time as any other but with twice as much merch. The decision to have their birthdays as separate is retarded in the first place if they never wanted to justify it with events. Just have them sharing a birthday if they don't want extra expenses.
I'm sure they considered what that would imply in terms of 3D workload when making the decision.

>>82117069
Don't worry about it

>>82117036
I almost replied to it...

>>82117056
KEKAROOOOOOOOO nice name tranny, that’s not gonna stop me from LAUGHING at you
btw i’ll ban evade again

>>82117072
DIAMOND DOGS LOVE
ADVENT LOVE
FWMC LOVE
BAU BAU

>>82117072
Jesas. What a shit company.

>>82117072
Is Biboo still pre-gaming with Mumei in two hours?

>>82117156
Compared to whats out there, they're the best. Take that as you will

>>82117187
True.

>>82117072
I guess the social media team just stickies the debut link and calls it a day...nevermind, Shiori's debut is still sticked on the day of Biboo's debut, great. I'm glad FUWAMOCO are proactive with this stuff because Cover sure isn't.

>>82117072
>>82117135
I can't wait for this, after seeing Shiori yesterday, it renewed my hope and made me happy after feeling down for a month.

>>82117105
thanks for the new complex

>>82117105
sioli suki

>>82117246
Same, I've been having a ruff time of it myself the last couple months and as nice as the anniversaries were, seeing Shiori's 3D debut bought all that hype back and more. Can't wait to see the other Advent girls.

>>82117269
>thanks for the new complex

I hope they can at least sleep in for their homework day, since there will be no stream... This is no time to be doing the intern's job...

>>82117246
She can do that sometimes

>>82117501

>>82117535
did Shiori always sexualize herself like this?

>>82117501
Shiorin love

>>82117572
only for me

>>82117572
Like a complete dork? Yeah.

>>82117269
I mostly mean theres a very distinct smell in the bathroom during that time thats different for every woman, and you wont *know* unless you've lived with at least one woman before (including pre-menopausal momma), if you've lived with multiple women throughout your life, you'll 100% know

>>82117572
yeah

>>82117670
can confirm

Shiori is like that one girl from my class who kept trying to be my friend when she found out I liked Kingdom Hearts too and I ignored her all year and the next year she switched schools.

women are disgusting

>>82117734

>>82117734
hahaha nice soundpost, i can hear it clear as day!

I'll be honest, I am a ruffian, but if I could only fuck a single Holo, it would be Shiori

>>82117156
>>82117244
They only promote the Homos.

>>82117807

>>82117824
If I could only fuck a single Holo it would be Suisei. If I can fuck 2 holos it's obviously FUWAMOCO.

>>82117072
>FUWAMOCO loves their genmates more than Cover
Jesus Cover doesn't know how good they have it with these girls, and really all of Advent

>>82117912
That was obvious the moment they hired Justice. They really have no clue why people watch them.

>>82117894
There is no chance in hell Suisei would be a good lay.

>>82117912
That was clear when they debuted Justice out of nowhere during the fucking summer of Advent

>>82117797
Still want them to cover this in a rock and rawr

>>82117954
>>82117971
We love Justice (3/4) here retards

>>82117959
>He relies on the woman for great sex
Skill issue.

>>82118041
Cecilia and Gigi are inoffensive at best. Pink whore and scarlet rot do not belong.

>>82117971
Breaking the streak of biweekly announcements before they could even call it biweekly was funny as hell. What the fuck kind of planning is that, kek.

>>82118041
Go back

how's your prep for breaking dimensions going anons?

>>82118106
shut the fuck up you cock obsessed faggot, get back in your closet

>>82118041
We love Liz here sister

>>82118132
I just need to open SPWN and stare at the screen, so good, I guess.
May buy new headphones before then.

>>82118106
Gigi got along with them really well during their totsu. I was worried how that would go, but there was like 0 awkwardness which is always nice to see

>shitposting stops as organically as it had started
>restarts again just as suddenly
God I love timelooping sisters, don't you /baubau/?

>>82118183
BAU BAU

>>82118182
Gigi is the collab GOAT

>>82118217

>>82118217
What? Sorry I have my filters on

>>82117971
That reminds there's still few spots left

>>82118143
Pink Whore and Scarlet Rot are the cock obsessed ones. I like to watch CGDCT which they are not.

https://x.com/Aeon058294/status/1819813000716419107
baused or cringe?

>>82118106
i rab gigi

>>82117448
>Can't wait to see the other Advent girls.
Same Shiori really prepped us for some awesome stuff coming soon.
>>82117501
Yeah there's something about her that just makes me smile differently from FUWAMOCO.

>>82118284
imagine making other men's dicks your whole identity

>>82117501
im a novelite now and this was my first fap to shiori

>>82117501
I can't watch Shiori for too long because I'll fall in love

>>82118306
It's not even posted in the japanese twitter, he had to screencap a stream to make his complaint. Completely baseless.

https://x.com/awai_ryuzaki/status/1819742135010329034
mococo 3D soon

>>82118183
BAU BAU

>>82118343
Don't have to imagine, Scarlet Rot is a perfect example.

>>82118271
It got filled out https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/special/12101/
last thing was the Instagram Takeover lol

>>82118430
THIS is the type of off topic posting we need more of. Not sisters pretending to be ruffians and "organically" discussing other chuubas while their own threads are on page 6 and 9 because their actual fans are not currently posting.

>>82118508
Well that's pretty anticlimactic

>>82118430
ToT flat chest tummy erotic uoooooooh

>>82118306
Cringe because it hasn't even been posted anywhere yet, and FWMC have never done JP exclusive VPs before kek.
I like his character development on becoming another JPschizo. I was wondering if anal would become one, but it seems like he's just decided to branch out to other girls instead of go schizo

>>82118488
grow up or stop posting here

>>82118645
Just fuck off to your whore thread and stop pretending you belong here

FWMC need to play more games. I only watch FWMC when they play games cutely.
I got bored of FWMCMorning
I'm burned out on "Japanese karaoke #XX"
I don't care for most of their zatsu topics
I loathe SC readings
And I don't wake up in the middle of the night just to watch them stream in Japanese
Only games. FWMC need to play more games.

>>82118685
This is the thread to discuss FWMC, not shit on their coworkers because of your insecurities as a man

>>82118729
You're going to be disappointed now that they can do things they actually want to

Orginally wasnt into BAUdol but the more i listen to it the more i like it, not the best holosong but far from the worst

>>82118508
>no swimsuits for the SUMMER of advent

Swimsuit 3D reveal I believe. They'll take off their coats. Then they'll take off their clothes and reveal swimsuits underneath.

>>82119045
It's a song I have to be in the mood for, occasional listening is probably all its gonna get from me.

Shiori's songs last night were all orisongs right? Every single one was better than BAUdol by a margin...what the fuck dogs.

>>82119143
Do they remove the swimsuits too timetraveller sama

>>82119045
I'm listening to it a bit far too much.

>>82119045
Been stuck in my head since premiere, just wish it didn't have the skit

>>82119181
Yeah she made 4 songs right before

>>82119157
I get that, most idol songs are but i dodnt think theyd release anything else as their first orisong

>>82119184
Members only encore.

>>82119241
They've been working on this for months, not "right before"

>>82119288
LETS GOOOOO

how does this image make you feel?

FUWAMOCUNNY
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/121160851
Uncensored:
https://baraag.net/@RadioSylent/112899750133718591

>>82119342
50% fluffy
50% fuzzy
5% concentrated powder of pero

>>82119342

>>82119342
Wistful for a significant other in my life I can hold and cuddle and lean on when times get hard.

clique on full anti JP schizo rants atm, no wonder it is so peaceful here today

>>82119509
And her retarded twin sister?

>Gay yuri shit mentioned to her
>Noeh not like that, okey?
Why is Mococo like that? She's based

>>82119253
I expected an idol song because well they aspire to be idols so it makes sense, at least it will be great for concerts and stuff

>>82119342
Fuwa plus Moco wa FUWAMOCO

>>82119552
Thank God for that. teetee is nice but yuribait gets old really fast and eventually erodes even the friendship itself.

>>82119552
mococo has never fucked with the gay shit

>>82119542
I don't dare to dream.

>>82119768
>eats her own popsicle
>trys to steal fuwawas
Why is she like this?

>>82119827
pampered princess

>>82119827
Classic sibling things

What are they planning on doing with all that Pero art?

>>82119976
Funeral video

ideal fuwawa build

>>82119530
>Isreal
Good to know who the people ruining the threads here were at least

>>82119530
Based, fuck Japanese streams and content. They are Hololive English.

>>82120045
Ofc dumbass this is any woman and some mens ideal build are you fucking stupid

>>82120134
>this is any woman... ideal build
no it ain't

>>82119530
>doomer dooming again
of course

Thanks for the Discord update

>>82119530
>menhera pig is actively remembered by them
>still cries about feeling like he doesn't belong
he should just fuck off completely

So the Advent Takeover thing is done, right? It was pretty good, but kind of wish it was just pictures without the drawings if that could give us more pictures. It's fun to see that kind of travel log thing.

So I'm basically rich, but I'm also a massive cheapskate. I'm trying to work on that, so can someone explain to me the concept of super chats? I don't understand the idea of giving someone money for free. You all seem to enjoy it, but I can't bring myself to do it.

>>82114311
HECK YEAH

>>82120490
i dont rly think its worth it

>>82120490
i am cheap with everything except superchats
it feels good...

>>82120490
You don't have to. If you don't want to then don't, buy voice packs if you want to support them but to also get something a bit more tangible in return.

>>82120490
it's really just a means to have your message prioritized over everything else in chat that has a 50/50 chance of getting read by them directly and you can have a 1-on-1 interaction with them

>>82120577
this anon is trying to reduce the competition for getting read

jesus what the hell is this elon, KYS

>>82120743
I remember doing some captchas to change my username a while back and I failed them 6 times, I think AI would have an easier time doing these

>>82120717
Not at all, I'm not one of the people who keeps spamming that merch is better than superchat, just that if you don't get the point, then why force yourself. The people who force yourselves on the way they support their idol always end up regretting it and growing bitter towards the idol herself, as if it was her fault.

>>82120816
It's funny seeing this happen right now

How well did the Shiorin3D tag do in trending? I have no idea how to check this.

bau bau

>>82120922
I always try to advise people to not do it, that it's ok to skip things they don't enjoy, that it's ok to take a break if they need to and etc, because I've seen it happen several times since I got into this. Not the first time, won't be the last, the justice threads will have their own schizos drifting off in a year. Best you can do is make sure you're not one of them yourself.

>>82120946
BAU BAU to you anon How's your day?

>>82120280
thought this was bust-up shot but then realized its actually full body, the perspective is just looming over her lol
sexy breats anyway

>>82119530
>clique on full anti JP schizo rants
What started those rants?

I don't know if it's been asked but what songs do we want to see in their 3d live

>>82119530
Heh... Post some screenshots, I wanna see it

>>82121084
he looks like a spic here

>>82121144
Let's Go Onmyouji!!
Carlito
Darude - Sandstorm

>>82121037
It's insanely frustrating seeing people do it when I can rarely give any support besides comments, but I guess it doesn't matter, at the end of the day I'll be happier than them.

>>82119530
Yes... YES! My influence is spreading to everyone. Soon FUWAMOCO will be utterly terrified to rver do JOPslop ever again.
They know their numbers are pathetic during JOPslop streams. They know none of their fans care or even remember their JOPslop streams, and they know they don't actually retain any JOP fans.
Soon, their own hardcore fans will turn against them in a worse way than we've ever seen before and their numbers will fall even further.
Then, you'll all look back and realize that I was right.

remember when avatarfagging used to be a bannable offense

>>82121144
Diebuster OP and/or ED...

>>82119530

>>82121084
From what I'm seeing, nothing really. It's just one of the doomers saying he doesnt feel like he belongs anymore due to their ARK streams I guess?
I truly wonder how prevelant this is among the hardcore EOP-side of the fanbase? I understood these feelings like 8 months ago, but got over it and don't care anymore.

>>82121144
もっと、夢、見よう!!

>>82121184
FUWAMOCO deberían de stremear en español.

>>82121144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3RSxICiQrg

>>82121295
It's only banable if you're avatarfagging in a singular thread. If you post one or two images like that spread throughout numerous threads, it isn't considered avatarfagging(otherwise ritualposters, goslings, etc would all be "breaking the rules")

>>82121266
BASADO.

>>82121144
fansa

>>82121184
I see it

>>82121237
>Carlito
Is this even possible considering it's archived?
>>82121300
I really like groovin magic
>>82121438
Based even if never mind is their best song

>>82120816
This. The ones forcing themselves to write tweets, the ones who always SC, they go menhera.

Yo @hololive_En @cover_corp
If you guys are droppin info on voice packs involving talents during a Japanese stream, you should also consider letting the english fans know, since you know, it involves holoEN and all, just sayin

@tanigox You too boi

you already linked that tweet

>>82121735
This is why Hololive is my oshi. Way healthier than hyperfixating on specific girls

Even Polka got in on the Mango Jam meme
https://files.catbox.moe/wcyt55.mkv (audio only)
pretty funny moment

People who think that by excessivly supachatting and tweeting makes them better fans are actually retarded

>>82121735
I find that among ruffians the most toxic form of support (to the ruffians themselves) is forcing to be there every stream. This seems to be the biggest culprit, more than money-related stuff.
Always there -> mental breakdown -> never there
Whenever you can -> no breakdown -> whenever you can

>>82121839
>>82121891
rabu rabu rabu

>>82121830
>actual dolphin porn

>>82121891

>>82121949
fucking useless hoe

Hello ruffians!
Thanks to your encouragement I started with my Nihongo learning journey!
Day 361: Today I've done my anki and immersion reps. No new cards for Anki, I'm just maintaining core 2.3k deck. For immersion I've watched two episodes of an anime.
After watching Shiori 3D I'm even more hyped for the FUWAMOCO one... It will be glorious, I can't wait.
FUWAMOCO love!
BAU BAU!

>>82121886
schedule completionists are insane. Working your own job and then being there for every minute of someone else's is like having two careers

and now they're talking about their dream stars collabs with FUWAMOCO

>>82121369
this is almost exactly what gets said here

>>82122073
how are you this easily baited across two platforms

>>82114551
As a Diamond Dog, there will never be a problem with Advent love. It's a wonderful gen across the board, and in my mind it's only rivaled by Gokisei in its level of sincere unity and friendship between the girls.

invite me to the discord

>>82122090
I agree mostly with this. Sometimes you do get EN streams from JP like Ririka but a lot of times when a JP does an EN stream it's mostly just cute noises, nowhere near the level of communication that a EN doing a JP stream does. And it sucks when every EN song is in Japanese or EN events have immediate JP subs yet we cant get EN subs for EN songs, or JP events, or Holofes.

>>82122209
invite only sorry you aren't in the cool ruffian inner circle with FUWAMOCO

'ate 'omos
love girls
simple as

>>82122204
it is also rivalled by or even surpassed by nepolabo imo

>>82122284
>invite only
so then invite me

>>82122204
all gens are friends for their first year anon. It won't stay this way after the Japan arc

hey dogfuckers.
I listened to your oshi's new song and it reminded me of a few 90's and 2000's animes I enjoyed.

>>82122307
otomos...

>>82122090
FUWAMOCO are just FUWAMOCO, they're not "the rest of JP". Why should they stop themselves from doing something they love and are 100% allowed to, and made clear they wanted to do from the start just because there are not "enough counterparts in JP"?
Blame yourself or God. They would not be the same people they are if they weren't obsessed with the japanese language and net culture. Wanting to supress this part of them is insane, just watch someone else.

>>82119231
>just wish it didn't have the skit
I feel the skit makes the whole song flexible. They can easily change it up during live shows and karaokes.

>>82122320
retard chama...

mococo is sexy okae

>>82122320
Ruffian... your reps. Gokisei = Gen 5 = NePoLaBo. It will always be Gokisei to me.

>>82122090
How can someone hate Japan as much as these fags do yet still claim FUWAMOCO as their kamioshi and send as much money as they do? You aren't going to change them and shouldn't want to if you actually cared about them at all

>>82122320
KEK
Ruffians are not the brightest bunch...

>>82122605
They are the only HoloEN GFE, they don't have a choice.

>>82121369
>I truly wonder how prevelant this is among the hardcore EOP-side of the fanbase?
Most of the regulars probably feel like that. I mean, 90% of the regulars that show up to the streams don't know JP, and there is just so much entertainment that you can get from listening to people talk in a language that you don't understand. The JP streams are literally not made for us and FWMC very rarely try to make us feel "welcomed" there(they barely read EN comments during ARK, and when they did half of the time they replied in JP), so yeah, I'd say that most of us feel like that in some way or another.
I'll explain my dislike for JP streams in the most simple and blunt way possible:
The JP streams are streams that they could very easily do for EN ruffians, but instead of doing it for us they are doing them for the JP tourists that barely know them.
They've already shown that they are capable of doing (mostly) EN streams in JST, so doing it in JP instead feels shitty, like they don't want to spend time with us, especially when they barely interact with ENs during those. Also, I feel like they read more JP comments during EN streams than EN comments during JP streams, so it almost feels like they are actively ignoring us during JP streams.

>>82122394
Name 'em, let's see what you got.

>>82122662
they really aren't that GFE outside of voicepacks. in fact most of the GFE they ACTUALLY do during streams are all the STRESSFUL parts of GFE

>>82122588
this is FUWAMOCO's ED

>>82122679
>I feel like they read more JP comments during EN streams than EN comments during JP streams
This is the part I don't like, everything else is whatever

>>82122605
A lot of FWMC fans are oldfags and have been with Hololive since the JP days. We've been starved for content for a while, when Asacoco came out it would have English subs and that was considered revolutionary. All we had were clips and the occasional English stream by Haachama or Coco or "English" stream by Korone or some other Holo that really just made noises. EN didn't salve this at all because depending on your preference, we didn't really get full CGDCT till Advent. And now we have it and so everything that takes away from that just sucks because the Japanese have so much and we have so little.

>>82122679
>They've already shown that they are capable of doing (mostly) EN streams in JST, so doing it in JP instead feels shitty,
For fuck sake, give them a break. They stream a ton in EN already. You won't die if they do an extra stream or two in Japanese.

maybe you should've thought twice before investing time and money in the most hardcore weebs in all of EN and sometimes the most JP of all of JP

>>82122738
They're hyper-affectionate, appreciative, and they refuse to ever shoot anyone down. This doesnt MAKE them GFE, but it definitely means they're okay with being seen in a more GFE-light. It really doesn't help much that they always say that the things they said in their CYOA streams and VPs are their "real feelings."

>>82122679
Not liking it is fine, wanting them to stop is retarded.
Trying to tame your oshi and restrict her is what leads to Shions and Aquas who exist more as porn characters than vtubers at this point.
Cover does not have a strict streaming policy, if you make the holo not want to deal with their fanbase, she just won't.
If you don't like a type of stream, don't watch. They stream more than enough to still give you enough content even skipping the rare JP ones.

>>82122861
They USED to stream a ton in EN. And we had 3 JP streams, not one or two.

>>82122852
How can you be watching holoJP since Asacoco and still
not know enough to follow their JP streams? This sounds like larping.

>>82122881
>>82122738
regardless of what you call it, they're gachi farmers, unlike anyone else in EN

>>82122679
>there is just so much entertainment that you can get from listening to people talk in a language that you don't understand
I've been doing that even before yonkisei debuted.
>and you STILL haven't done your reps in that time?
Nope.

>>82122898
This was a special event, so if they do it again next week you can keep complaining

>>82122090
Holy fuck him too? I feel like the only one who used to feel this way, but got over it when I realized I cant even make it to any JST stream regardless of language and I rarely watch VODS.

>>82122895
NTA but you don't know what you're talking about. Shion was always lazy from the start. Aqua had a bunch of burnouts including Apex Masters grind and Coco graduating, to this day she still gets harassed by Chinks because she was the top Chinese Holo. Her crippling autism issues and desire to focus more on the idol side is why she doesn't stream anymore, not because of her fanbase. You might be getting confused because there were a few people who objected to the Apex grinding arcs but that's because she would have a menhera breakdown every time when she inevitably didn't make it into Masters. Botan was going to grind to Masters before debut or just after it and decided it wasn't good for her mental health and she's way more stable than Aqua is.

>>82122873
Yep. Their knowledge of niche JP net culture is only rivaled by a few JPs. Most of holoJP are complete normalfags by comparison. Can't be stated enough just how badly people who hate JP stuff chose.
Watch them reply with "your oshi chooses you", once again blaming their oshi for their own issues.

>>82122968
nta but the people most likely to need to rely on vtubers for social interaction are also the people with the least discipline needed to improve themselves, such as by learning a language.

>>82122984
it really isn't that hard to gachi farm. Just tell lonely gachikoi (almost) everything they wanna hear and coddle them like Fuwamoco do. easy revenue.

>>82122968
I know enough to catch a bit here or there but not enough for full streams. Basically I can tell when the translated subs on a clip are wrong but that's still far from being fluent. Then you have people like Marine who speak machine gun fast and make a ton of references or Holos that have specialized interests like when Nene talks about idols or bugs.

>>82123028
Nice clip collage.

>>82123134
yes but virtually every other Holo doesn't want to pay the menhera cost that comes with that

>>82123134
Men are easy, just be nice to them. FUWAMOCO are nice to everyone. The majority of EN have been typical western women.

>>82123079
i still remember when azki collabed and played geoguesser with them and was taken aback by their knowledge and, if i remember right, jokingly asked if they were sure they weren't JP

>>82122090
Baused and true.

>>82122898
>They USED to stream a ton in EN
You might be surprised, but even without ARK, they streamed 2 times more than Shiori and Nerissa this month. You guys are really expecting alot.

>>82123254
Anon I'm a Day 1 Jailbird and even I will say Nerissa's Japan arc has been utter fucking shit. She hasn't had schedules or a solo karaoke in longer than FUWAMOCO. She's literally bottom of the barrel, I was even considering dropping membership that's how bad it is. So expecting more than current Nerissa is not a lot.

>>82123216
Yeah, people usually single out the "more JP than JP!" comments they get, but they also get a ton of comments in japanese whenever they ask ruffians if they know some niche stuff saying "I didn't know either"
They're not only hardcore weebs, they're underground idol fans. There are only a few in Hololive who fit that description, let alone in the overwhelmingly ironic weeb holoEN fanbase.
They're too nice so I doubt it bothers them, but it would drive me mad if I was as hardcore as they are and my defining covers were Crazy Frog and Kevin Lamar, kek.

>>82122873
A lot of them use the "I didn't choose me, I chose them so I can't help it" excuse but ultimately I feel that's an excuse in the case of some of these ruffians because they simply love the affection and over all attention they receive from FWMC that they can't find anywhere else in EN. You won't find anyone as sweet, tolerating, and patient with lonely menhera as them in Myth, Council/Promise, Justice, and yes, even the rest of Advent.

>>82123363
I feel like FUWAMOCO were expecting the Japanese to be more attuned to their niche interests not realizing they are niche even within Japanese viewers. The amount of Japanese comments they get are overwhelmingly "What is this?" and Japanese viewers skew even younger than global viewers.

>>82123455
>"I didn't choose me, I chose them so I can't help it"
wow I completely fucked that up, I meant the "I didn't choose them, they chose me" excuse

>>82123363
>They're too nice so I doubt it bothers them
Of course it doesn't bother them. One of their longtime goals was to expand and bring the things they love to new audiences. They want idols, idol culture, VNs, and the like to reach the west and become popular

>>82123475
It depends. When they start singing ojisan songs during RNR, there are a bunch of JP viewers who get the reference quick.

i like when they go bau bau

>>82123475
Yeah, on twitter too I see a bunch of nips who were first exposed to Hololive through FWMC, saying they're getting hooked through their clips and stuff. These people won't know SHIT about their interests.
Luckily for them, spreading the culture they love, particularly in North America, has always been a huge dream of theirs, and now they're in a position to do so. They're always welcoming of newfags and outsiders, as long as they're open to it. Which explains them not minding the ironic weeb western songs that became their greatest hits, I guess. Goes both ways.

>>82123455
just go watch a fucking 2 view if that's what they want so badly

>>82123634
>i like when they go bau bau

>>82123637
>They're always welcoming of newfags and outsiders
I love watching them interact with new grayfags. It is always cute. kek.

>>82123760
Same. They always win with kindness. Some they win over with their cuteness, but even the ones who are aggressive after receiving a positive response tend to just fuck off in silence. I was a bit anxious about the shorts audience when they first did those, thinking about the culture clash of complete normalfags who are new to literally everything they represent, vtubers, idols, anime being possibly exposed to them, but there has been no issue at all.
Freddy's was amazing for that too, there were even a bunch of new greynames the next day on FWMC Morning. Love to see them growing.

>>82123760
Yup. Always ready to repeat their introductions over and over again in the same stream if they have to whenever they see a random grey asking just what the hell it is they’re watching exactly. And then there are those times like when a grey came in telling them to keep it down only for them to make as much autistic noise as possible.

I just rewatched the White Album VN stream they did for Valentines and goddamn it was so good. Peak FUWAMOCO. The (played up) anguish at Yayoi's route, both of them screaming "YUKI! WUFFIANS/RUFFIANS NOOOOO" as they saw the options. The poll, the cope, the poll again, the resignation and reactions. God it was so good. I miss those times. I can't believe people almost voted to go with what they wanted. It's much more kino this way and props to them for going through with it. A lesser Holo would have ignored chat but they did it for the content.
https://www.youtube.com/live/avf-Erco-10?si=sQxqiVCwba1vqCEg&t=9400

>>82123910
Yeah, grayfags are usually well-behaved in their streams.

>>82122090
Honestly I always knew the whole "le JP streams" thing would inevitably boil over cause it's always been clear that a ton of people are holding back and venting /here/. The battle plan stream outed quite a few, but its clear many were still choosing to not say shit kek.
Hopefully these people can be calmed down before they fucking explode the next time FWMC do a 50 minute JP solo stream or event, or I guess fuck it explode again

>>82123910
Shorts greys are the best chatters

>>82124031
ideally those people would just leave entirely or accept there will be streams they miss. The biggest issue is more these menheras somehow think they are failures if they miss even a second of a stream which is just amplified when they have JP streams. People need to get over themselves and realize it's not that serious and you should not treat it like a fucking job

>>82123942
So good. Can't wait for it to be back. I don't even care that much about the story itself, so it's not even "I want them to keep playing until the end", I just enjoy the moment, I just want the next stream, even if it has a long pause again after it.

They will make out during their 3D debut.

>watch debut stream
>demon dogs' first words were in japanese
>express how much they love japanese and japanese culture all. the. time.
>despite knowing all this still gets into them and keeps watching them
>surprised when the super mega weebs decide to do japanese streams semi-frequently (even though they still speak english most of the time)
>unironically anti on them over this on an anonymous message board
>while showing them love all the time on their public accounts as if this never actually bothered them
I'm thinking kino

>>82124036
>try to fart

>>82124158
I think the root of the issue is mentally weak people letting /here/ shitposting influence them. They shouldn't be here.
They'll deny this because they don't want to admit it, but you just need to look at any other chuuba and try to imagine "what if it was FWMC?" to see that they would have unprecedented meltdowns that no other fanbase has.
Like this, Nenechi, 3:30am JST, asking what time it is abroad:
https://x.com/momosuzunene/status/1781208700751073598
4:20, ultra guerrilla stream while her biggest gachikoi are all asleep pandering to a language they don't understand
https://x.com/momosuzunene/status/1781219083390013498
Or any of Mori's JP zatsus where she acts all cute and jops keep posting かわいい and she goes ehehehe.
Imagine FWMC doing either of these. There would be blood. Mostly their own, people would start cutting or shooting themselves, but it would be nasty.
They let retarded favoritism/cuck narratives poison their brain, even if they won't admit it, and it influences their perception of every bit of content FWMC produce.

I feel like their 3D stage will take place in Akihabara.

>>82124492
>empty akihabara because Cover's celeron PC can't render a busy crowd in Unity
kino

>>82124158
This. Once you start feeling like you’re obligated to watch them, that’s when your feelings towards them gradually begin to sour until you’re left becoming a straight up anti. These people will hear the comments FUWAMOCO make about loving when they see the ruffians be there for them during streams (especially if it’s scheduled at an inconvenient time for them) and start to think that if they aren’t one of the ruffians FUWAMOCO sees in their chat with them at that moment then that would mean they are less of a ruffian. Yes FUWAMOCO care and love us individually but at the end of day, even if you superchat, you’re still one of many ruffians. There will always be people there to headpat them, there will always be someone there to call them cute or encourage them, there will always be someone there to superchat and love bomb then or tell them they enjoyed the stream. All of these things will happen with or without you. And even if you miss a stream, you can just make up for it in the next if you really wanted to and FUWAMOCO wouldn’t think any less of you.

A lot of ruffians have main character syndrome or something.

>>82124297
Whenever there's a watchalong of older streams it's also clear that they used to use a LOT more japanese during regular streams, both full phrases and interjections and expressions. It used to be even more obvious.

>>82124560
They'll be able to do black/grey bystanders at the edges of the area.

>>82124626
The funny part is lashing out at paypigs for enabling FWMC. Like dude, I am not going to stop supporting my oshi just because you don't like their content.

>>82124297
>semi-frequently
This is actually dishonest because they dont even do them semi-frequently lmao. They BARELY do any JP streams at all, and when they do its events like GW, ARK, or holidays like New Years. Even during those big events, there's sometimes a shitload of EN(like Mario Kart) and some are practically split(like the Lui stream or the JP classroom).

>>82124746
Yeah but schizos unironically fill gaps in their memory with jp streams and think there are way more japanese streams than there actually are
>>82124675
Yes, their pandering used to be all over the place but for some reason people never saw it as a "threat" until now

>>82124626
>Once you start feeling like you’re obligated to watch them, that’s when your feelings towards them gradually begin to sour until you’re left becoming a straight up anti
I only read this part of your post but I agree. This was a really REALLY hard lesson for me to learn, and I'm honestly still trying to learn it. I think seeing a certain Ruffian who skips a shitload of streams(mostly all the JP/JST ones) but is still appreciated/loved by them has convinced me that its okay and I shouldnt be autistic about it anymore...
I think leaving this place is the next step for me(inb4 youre here forever)

>>82124746
FWMC did 7 solo streams so far. Ririka did 10 eigo solo streams in comparison.

>>82124865
I don't think this way but I think the menheras view the move to Japan as existential threat that is going to make FUWAMOCO suddenly which it's the complete opposite and I think they essentially feel a constant crushing life debt to the Ruffians that supported them early and helped them move. Basically everyone is menhera and making the other side more menhera too. They are basically killing themselves to give us as much content as possible and people still throw a fit when they miss one stream.

>>82122090
I don't care about JP streams anymore because I stopped watching as much FWMC as I used to

>>82124449
Yes, many ruffians genuinely believe the rrats made /here/ about FUWAMOCO having favorites. This is why some get menhera if they retweet a particular clip account they feel is one too many times, ignoring the fact that if you like/retweet tweets made from an account at least twice that that would be enough to tell twitter’s algorithm you must like seeing that person’s tweets and their tweets will get pushed to your For You. Or they’ll see a ruffian getting read they feel is one too many times, ignoring the other people FUWAMOCO read in that stream which includes a lot of grey names. Or they flip out if FWMC directly or indirectly respond to someone either on Twitter or on Youtube, ignoring how that type of interaction from them is rare compared to, say, the rest of Advent. Shiori for example literally replies to Novelites on Twitter who announce it’s their birthday today and wishes them happy birthday. Biboo used to almost have entire conversations with pebbles in her free and prechat with no problems. I see Nerissa responds to Jailbirds all the time too. It’s almost as though FWMC are stepping on glass when it comes to some of these threadreading shitters. And yes, a majority if not all of the same clique members /baubau/ claims to hate, make up /baubau/ itself. If you actually believe FUWAMOCO play favorites, you’re calling them liars who shouldn’t be trusted and you’re no better than a sister at that point.

>>82124902
You're here forever only applies to the website, not any single thread. My "you're here forever" moment was precisely coming here to talk about vtubers after over a decade of not even thinking about it, but it's not like I'm back to using /b/ like I did in 2008.
You'll be back, but you can leave specific parts of the website you dislike. You can even leave the website as a whole for longer than hololive will likely exist. But you'll be back.

>>82124966
Their gratitude about the move is really a key point. Them reading my japan move announcement supa is one of my most revisited timestamps, if not the most. The gratitude in their message warms my heart every single time. It's true appreciation and love for their fans. It's sad that some don't even realize that they doubt this with their actions.

>>82124902
>inb4 youre here forever
This has always been bullshit. You just need to find something to do other than waste your time here. The only thing that brings me back is the unfiltered news.

>>82124449
>>82125148
Like I always say, people are too harsh on FWMC. They did more than most chuubas already. The only one who streamed more than them is their doki biboo, and she is an anomaly herself.

I had a menhera pang yesterday, but then I just stopped thinking and I got better

>>82125433
I'll even say that Biboo streams too much for me personally. I don't want that much at all. If FWMC can get the time to stream as much as Biboo, I'd rather see them use it to rest instead and keep the 2 hour streams.

>>82124902
It's tough if your brain has been hardwired to think you have to be there always but I've missed a ton of streams and I'd like to think it isn't a big deal. I still catch the archive when I can and even if I can't I just watch the next live stream that interests me and it's always a fun time. If it's a chore and not fun then don't watch that stream it's not the end of the world. Better to miss a stream than become a borderline anti like the German/Hungarian/traumadumper that makes them feel bad for streaming. Acting like that will just make them not want to stream as much which is the opposite of what even those menheras want so I'm not sure why they do it

I was menhera yesterday but then I watched the recent episode of nier, now I'm both too sad and realized how gay and stupid the thing I was menhera about was.