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Coco is fair and balanced - Edition

>What is /fig/?
/fig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss idol vtubers who play fighting games and (beat em ups), either from large companies, small ones, or indies, as well as to discuss fighting games about Hololive and other vtubers in general.

>So is this thread about fighting games or Idol showdown?
Neither: this is a thread about idols and fighting games.

>But what is an idol?
An idol is something unobtainable and moe that makes your kokoro go doki doki (WIP)

>Is {X} a fighting game?
Temporally we will define fighting games as games fighting idols play.

>Are beat em ups a fighting game?
No, but we will use the loophole above provide a home for them temporally as well since most of the fighting idols also play beat em ups. If the genre seems to have a revival at some point, we would recommend splitting this thread (again).

>I have no friends, can I ask for games here?
Just post a request in the GAME ANCHOR

>Idol Showdown stuff
IS patch notes: https://steamdb.info/app/1742020/patchnotes/
Beta builds: https://twitter.com/IdolShowdown/status/1660016297164390405 (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)
Twitter Tech: https://pastebin.com/XQtD5D1y (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)
Tiermaker: https://tiermaker.com/categories/video-games/updated-idol-showdown-characters-1434585

>HoloXBreak stuff
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2719150/Holo_X_Break/

>Glossary of Fighting Terms
https://glossary.infil.net/

>Hololive Smash Clone fangame
https://twitter.com/AoiSora_3D

>Fighting Idols
Seeking for a chuuba who plays fightan? check our well catered selection of seiso idols (and a few extra):
https://rentry.org/figidols

>Recent Fightan Streams
- Phase Showdown Community top 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cioiD5zBm90
- Phase Showdown day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClyffUy7iy0
- Eimi day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B73h8qD9l0
- Tenma day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-W9p4ceUuU
- Hina day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFVe-hQwSjM
- Airi day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTn6j4m6V4
- lumi day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKs7lDUfJW0
- Remi day 2; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9APAwK2kCGg
- Uruka day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6oHaQr2VQg
- Ember day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFVe-hQwSjM
- Phase showdown day 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYylU-Z1zOU
- Airi day 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jB9HUJ2454
- Ember day 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXdzcgDmwYk
- Eimi day 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ViGCMMLD5g
- Lumi day 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcw4KvbzPHE

ALSO MIKO SOUL CALIBUR IN THE SEA OF PHASE: https://youtu.be/-YnVozK9yLQ

>"FT10 NOOB!" "My oshi can beat your oshi!"
Take that somewhere else, this thread is full of newbies who just want to play the funny idol game. Be nice.

>How do I git gud? (Youtube videos)
https://pastebin.com/pnzsYe4C (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

>OFFICIAL GUIDE TO PLAYING FIGHTAN (Will be updated): https://rentry.org/vaqrg8r4

>Lost your motivation to play fighting games? Read this cute girls manga:
https://mangatoto.com/series/94090

>News for July 28th, 2024
- Phase showdown reignites /fig/s fire for Idol Showdown better then the Ina update ever did
- Anons collectively agree coco is still fucked up
- Talks about having a tournament happen but nothing more then ideas
- Sophie enters a 3k Tekken tournament, entrants complain about how scuffed the tournament is with horrible connections
- Ember takes the entire Phase Showdown Tournament in a 3-0 with Coco to no one's surprise
- Rie also plays 2 sudden death games and kwabs instantly

>tigers
https://www.twitch.tv/zoolifetiger (embed) (embed)

And remember: No discords, no names, no fighting. Only idols and love. wao!

Other useful threads:

>>>/vt/hfz/
>>>/vt/mayo/
>>>/vt/nepolabo/
>>>/vt/aus/
>>>/vt/towa/
>>>/vt/gigi/
>>>/vt/jong/
>>>/vt/pcg/

previous frontier: >>81586458

>> No.81730425

>>81730346
this was the best fig has been so far
now imagine if we had a holo tournament...

>> No.81730545
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>award for longest combo

>> No.81730568

>>81730425
>Idol Showdown comes out
>Holos talking about doing a tourney
>people like Sajam say they'd cast it
>SF6 comes out and everyone forgets about it
would've been cool

>> No.81730621

>>81730568
I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND HOW CALI WAS DENIED THE TOURNAMENT
I DONT GET IT
I DONT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.81730697
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Anchor post for finding games. Idol showdown, Street fighter, Tekken, Fightcade. Anything goes, just keep in mind that not everyone has the game you own

REMEMBER, FUCK DISCORD SWEATS AND DISCORD TRANNIES

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Rate the tournament

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>>81730697
anyone up? feel like playing

>> No.81730834

>she says another tournament next year
well, we have to stand now

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>>81730736
>community tournament
cool idea but there should be a seeding of the sweats being against each other instead of killing the fans who wanted to play. Seeing that tranny play ollie with a fresh account was annoying
>Talent Tournament
Good, for a first time it was entertaining. The girls actually tried to learn the game but fell apart splendidly
>Overall
7/10, if there's another then it'll probably be better

>> No.81731164

>>81730758
sure man
>>81730736
8/10
Props to Phase for even doing it, they've been ambitious with their community interactions admittedly. I doubt people will actually keep up with fightan, but it's nice to see them gather and have fun banter regardless. Some administrative stuff that could be improved upon, but perhaps they'll fix it next year
>>81730834
>>81730968
Region lock, actual seeding, and legitimate TOs will fix the tournament immediately

>> No.81731250
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Sophie still live with tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/afterschoolsophie

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So does Rie have a 3d model fan made or official or am I gonna have to grab a KK model, might as well add her to the team to replace Mori Tournament never

>> No.81731598

>>81731471
she recently opened her chibi 3d model to the public on twt
https://x.com/HimemiyaRie/status/1816488580727951560

>> No.81732306

>>81731598
hmmm
I'll probably go with the Koikatsu body then because working with chibis sucks in blender

>> No.81733932

i watched eimi's pov even after the tournament and at the end she started crying suddenly, presumably because of her loss to ember. this makes me want her to play fighting games even more, that kinda passion will take her far.

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>>81733932
>cries because you lost a fighting game
so starts the rabbit hole

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>>81733932
>>81734151
ONE OF US

ONE OF US

>> No.81735560

>>81731471
I don't understand why she wasn't in the first place

>> No.81736343

>>81735560
huh what you mean

>> No.81737241

Tekken is such a stupid shit game

>> No.81737293

>>81737241
the cycle of takos

>> No.81737308

>>81737241
tako...

>> No.81737644
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tako is right

>> No.81737752

wait was airi still playing even after the tournament ended?

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.81739019

>>81738910
think this guy might be clean and just likes the game
thought you're gonna get rolled probably lol

>> No.81739385

https://x.com/EmberAmane/status/1817763399578640834

>> No.81739533

>>81739019
nah I've taken some matches off of him, he's probably just learning ollie
holy fuck can they balance this shit and improve netcode already

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>> No.81739968

>>81737241
I play Smash and I think Kazuya is fucking stupid. That’s why I refuse to fight one ever again. I don’t care what anyone calls me. They can call me a scrub, they can say the other player is better, and I will agree because any amount of berating and name calling is better than playing a single match against Kazuya. I refuse to destroy my already crumbling sanity by playing against this stupid ass motherfucker that runs around with an invincible dash that also has an invincible move that starts drawing every single Exodia card to send my ass to the Shadow Realm. I don’t care if he requires skill, I don’t care if you need to lab to get combos, I just don’t care about that. I just want to play a video game to have fun, and I will gladly lose and get it over with just so this abomination of game design can stay off my TV screen.

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>>81739968
comical amount of seethe, i am rejuvinated

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man what the fuck

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>>81739968
at least he isn't steve right dev san?
>>81740282
that dudes streaming right now, think he's japanese WAO

>> No.81740611

>botan 60 hit combo
>takes 20 years to kill you still
I could feel that ping

>> No.81740731

>>81740033
Despite that, I would say I feel as if a burden has been lifted off my shoulder. That's the secret, you only have to say one word. No. No, I won't play against your ignorant character that has sword limbs, randomly becomes invincible and murders you off a single touch. No, I won't play against your invincible spinning ball spammer that camps to time. No, I won't play against your fat assed noodle arm bitch that gets free ledgetraps and edgeguards. Just say no, and you're free.

>>81740439
I'm not him, but I honestly think Steve is simultaneously overrated and also cancerous. I don't think he's the best character in the game necessarily, but he's in that stupid ass group of characters that completely discourages interaction because of his design.

>> No.81740770

>>81740439
>>81740611
this shit is why im picking up aki
I put my controller and just looked at my other monitor lmao
the physics in this game make no sense when other characters get cut off by 20-30 hits in their combo

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>>81739968
Word

Also hit this mid offstage clip on the cpu so I guess you could call me the rizzler https://streamable.com/ql68pd

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there's no way he's the only mfer online

>> No.81743603

lief

>> No.81744248
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la creatura mk: https://www.twitch.tv/dreammxy

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botan RAGE street fighter 6 in 5 hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF9vYESpIB4

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>> No.81748413

sleb

>> No.81748932

uuu

>> No.81750501

>>81730568
get that orbiter shill Sajam away from Holo's

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>> No.81754406

>>81752275

>> No.81754609
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>> No.81756617

coyo strem today

>> No.81758101
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>>81756617
wao!

>> No.81758748

Already technical problems.

https://youtu.be/fH6CuDj29xY

>> No.81760474

10

>> No.81762037

liv

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>> No.81764098

>>81752275
what is she doing to that joshu...

>> No.81764195

>>81739533
>ollie
one of those mothercukers kept oking me leaving the proyectile and doing an unblockable by switching sides
this game has no parry how can I counter that bullshit?

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>>81764098

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>>81764195
>Unblockable

>> No.81764670

>>81764195
hold the stick in the other direction?

>> No.81764705

>>81764629
hits both sides simultaneously by hopping and then jab
>>81764670
then you get hit by the jab

>> No.81764842

>>81764705
>Block ring
>Block jab
>Jab is minus so it's your turn now

>> No.81764930

>>81764705
Also it doesn't hit both sides, just gotta guess like Millia oki.

>> No.81766204

boop

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>>81764195
if you mean radiollie into a side switch short hop all you have to do is mash light. The only way you lose the mixup is if they just grab instead. It's actually pretty unsafe which is why I usually opt to do a block string and then build meter by backing up instead with the short hop

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>> No.81767619

>>81744722
Is there a reason why she's constantly being coached for SF6 still to this day? I'd of thought she'd be more confident in her skills today. Is there something else I'm missing? What's her goal?

>> No.81767795

>>81767619
She is a woman

>> No.81767908

>>81767619
The eceleb interaction is more important, but also the event is team based again I think

>> No.81768063

If you want a Coyo membership gift now is the time. They are being spammed like crazy.

>> No.81768161

>>81768063
why are coyodachis so wealthy

>> No.81768220

>>81764930
guessing which one will register first on shit net is a travesty to say the least. My best method right now is just being more aggressive than they can be as a method of tard wrangling their spastic autist movement

>> No.81768294

>>81768220
That's just the way it is with anime fighters on less than stellar netcode. But yeah can't get put into the blender if you just don't let them do anything to begin with.

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ren streets: https://www.twitch.tv/ren_kisaragi__

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>>81764195
captcha: 2PATM

>> No.81772220

>>81771292
this dp feels janky to me
I was using her yesterday and it felt like only the ex dp had any sort of advantage

>> No.81772427

>>81772220
Yeah i'm referring to ex dp
And all versions are minus as fuck. You either special cancel into something safer or you're dead

>> No.81773254

>>81772220
>>81772427
>do you have a safe dp
>do you have endless arsenals of safe neutral pokes?
>do you only need 2 combos to kill?
your answers for whether you can beat ollie + high tiers, if not sweat out your ass or choose a different character

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>>81730697
Anyone up?
162F1818

>> No.81773956

>>81773653
internet kind of laggy for some reason let me check

>> No.81774005

>>81773956
Thought it was me

>> No.81774052

>>81774005
ye checking in its probably you or maybe we are too far from each other

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>>81773653
if anyone else wants to try:
03CBB2E1

>> No.81774181

>>81774052
it was way too unstable so it might've been something else
>>81774106
I'm trying one more time

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>> No.81776414

flourish

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>> No.81778315

oh
https://x.com/rinkouashelia/status/1818017218019606856

>> No.81778419

Ggs
I guess i deserved all those fubuki supers after spamming sora super

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>>81778419
anti airing with the foobs super is something the foobs player from here left me with and also foobs PSTD

>> No.81779193

>>81778315
phase connect is literally saving fig

>> No.81781201

I miss the fish tournament arc already

>> No.81781336

>>81781201
evo into fish tournament was very powerful
we will probably not see this level of power any time soon

>> No.81781410

>>81781201
Who won?

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>>81781410
it wasnt even close and then she also pounded the commentator

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A friend of mine tried out 2XHolo on a shitter computer and apparently it runs fine even with four players! This is big!

>> No.81783587

>>81783518
I NEED THOSE FUCKING CODES
LET ME IN RIOTTTT

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>>81768161
gotta have the cash for KF3 gacha

>> No.81786268

>>81783807
K3mono Fri3nds

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>>81783587
Riot has no power here

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lia live with fighting games I guess? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxFe7vwUpTE

>> No.81788241

>>81788143
90% yapping and yelling at chat about gachaslop and fujo stuff.

10% fighting games.

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>>81788143
i seen this autist creature in several places, is lia the source?

>> No.81788340

my brain is melting from this intro screen
its not even divegrass season yet

>> No.81788396

>>81788315
The desu creature has been around for a while, Lia just likes using it

>> No.81788573

>fell for the blue yeti meme

>> No.81788770

does lia normally sound this special

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>>81788770
This is the default state of “the Lia” yes

If you like her, you may also enjoy “the Clara”

>> No.81788899

>>81788770
Always. this is actually a yap stream after all.

>> No.81789072

>umineko golden fantasia mentioned
I CARE NOW

>> No.81789309

>who's play a fighting game for the story
moron kombat...

>> No.81789356

what's the most sweatiest fighting/combat based games you've played? Just had a curious thought about mine and I don't know what's considered the hardest ones

>> No.81789405

>>81789356
Smelee

>> No.81789441

>>81789309
Under night....
Melty Blood...

>> No.81789570

>>81789356
wait do you mean hard to play or who's community are sweat lords?

>> No.81789662

>if you're a fighting game player you're a mega gooner
hey that only applies to mostly anime players
streets and tekken are full of 40 year old men who gave up any social life to be good at that shit

>> No.81789764

>>81789662
Not what you said but guilty as charged lel

>> No.81790063

>>81789570
both.

>> No.81790176

>engagement farming
yawn, hurry up and get to the actual content, i actually clicked on your stream

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>>81789662
>streets and tekken are full of 40 year old men who gave up any social life to be good at that shit

40 is still far away for me but not that far

>> No.81790274

>>81790176
i think this anon warned us >>81788241
I got nothing on right now so I'm just sitting here napping while she yaps

>> No.81790442

>>81788315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hexu1gUveSc
This the closest we have to a source. The Soundpost with CC has been stuck in my head for days.

>> No.81790522

>hbox mention

>> No.81790579

>>81790442
huh
ii heard that meme and seen the autism creature didnt realize they were together

>> No.81790679

evo piss chair...

>> No.81791372

>>81786268
3 Extreme Friending

>> No.81792198

>>81791372
3friendly5u

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rina tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/rinamarinavt

>> No.81794187

>>81793064
does she share the same artist as every veibae/stacy clone or something, I could literally paste her eyes over any other twitch girl

>> No.81795025
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>>81793064
>>81794187
This is the same artist and nearly the same design as Olivia

>> No.81796790

>>81795025
oh wow really? I never really noticed and just assumed it was was just a coincidence

>> No.81797050

>>81795025
DayshiART used to be one of my favorite artists, I can't believe he'd take this route

>> No.81797573

Keyboard controls is sooooo clunky man, not a fan

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>>81797573
accept the future old man

>> No.81798424

>>81797913
been thinking about getting one of these for travel besides a custom fightbox, what would you recommend?

>> No.81798467

The soul of fighting games died with the arcade joystick and you can not convince me otherwise.

>> No.81798517

>>81798467
Control scheme doesn't matter, petty rivalries between people at your local do.

>> No.81798565

>>81798424
I've seen the haute 42 recommended a lot for how cheap it is, think I saw it a lot at evo this year on stream
you could just make your own for the same price of that though

>> No.81798718

>>81798517
Can't have petty rivalries at locals when all the transfem velociraptors for your game play on keyboard

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>tiger basically gone all week

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I don't even know why I'm playing anymore. I'm not getting better and am still shit as I was like 2 months ago. It's only frustration

>> No.81803431

>>81803101
the deep mind of the tako is an interesting one

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>>81803101

>> No.81804492

>>81803444
This time it's over for real

>> No.81804647

>>81803101
what game tho

>> No.81805139
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>>81804492
if you truly want to improve you have barely tried anything, you are just wondering why playing over and over doesn't yield results

This is where the fun begins
I suggest to start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSFUdHIblgM
I have been narrating over every move I make to cure myself of my monkeyness and its working, it might help you too.
After that you could start fasting

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>>81804647
tako is a known kekken player

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>>81805451

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someone needs to stop these woman from playing marisa: https://www.twitch.tv/hanazawanako

>> No.81807972

I played rivals tonight and decided to not take it seriously. I got frustrated sure, but I didn’t really care if I won or lost. And it was actually fun.

>> No.81808178

>>81807972
he's learning
now if only the tako learned

>> No.81808307

>>81808178
Hey if the game can choose to fuck me over at any point, there’s no point in doing anything but laughing. Maybe if it was local I’d feel different but idk. And maybe I’m just in a good mood cause my own game is feeling good and, according to my friend, running well!

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Sophie on king
https://www.twitch.tv/afterschoolsophie

>> No.81809764

>>81809689
wtf has she always been tekken god on king

>> No.81809958

>>81809764
She got there like a day or 2 ago

>> No.81810485

>open sophie
>she's purple
damn she dropped that fast huh

>> No.81810609

>>81803101
Time to hire a pro, if you can't improve with their help then you just have to accept you've reached your peak

>> No.81811273

is victor still plus on his teleport or did I make that up

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>> No.81814483

>>81805139
Thanks, I've been trying to get better and keeping track of my enemies moves, but still suck at it.
I watched this neat video a while ago, and it's kinda similar. Although the main focus is on Tekken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZndya05yg

>> No.81816156

>>81814483
perhaps you should take all of juri anons learnings and apply them to tekken
or do the fuck it we ball play style

>> No.81817313

>>81806949

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amour on tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/amour
weird new png instead of her normal model

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jp dunder night: https://www.twitch.tv/kawasai_isumi

>> No.81818540

>>81813101
tigerbros only want one thing and it's disgusting

>> No.81818719

sleb

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>> No.81825969

>>81822836

>> No.81826552

tekken tuesday

https://youtu.be/mnjtkIa7Aag

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>>81825969

>> No.81828527

Free my nigga sneedchungus

>> No.81829809

lib for coyo

>> No.81830403

>>81828527
Bro got canceled for nothing

>> No.81831871

bop

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>>81814483
Well if you want something that might help you out and is less radical that going full ramadan:

https://www.psypost.org/new-research-raises-questions-about-caffeines-impact-on-brain-plasticity/#:~:text=It's%20known%20to%20help%20with,caffeine's%20influence%20on%20brain%20plasticity.

Something a bit obvious: coffee helps you learn UNLESS you built tolerance to it in which case it fucks over your learning rates.
From what I been reading its better if you are a caffeine addict to drop it gradually over the course of 10 days then spend ten days without taking coffee, and afterwards only use it a little bit every so often to boost your learning sessions and nothing else, doing cycles of 10 days clean up. I literally learned this researching it yesterday and todays morning so I will be trying it for the next 20 days and tell you all the results.

In any case for Juri anon's Bison diary day 19 i am up to my ass on work so right now my only routine is to hop on my stationary bike and narrate a inaba vs tokido fight at 0.25 speed, as described in this video >>81805139 so I can learn to observe whats happening first without getting distracted by having to mash buttons.

It made me realize the layers of the traps in which high level players play, for example:
https://youtu.be/UUdxyn3KcoQ?t=345

Tokido likes answering Inaba's scissors kick with a low sweep after blocking it, which he does in 5:39. Shortly afterwards inaba throws another scissors, which this time is answered with a light kick instead: this is a feint, he wants to bait him to do a jump to jump his sweep and to be able to recover in time with a DP, as it happens immediately in 5:43. Great plan... except that Inaba actually expected it, and did an empty jump instead, blocking the DP, and making Tokido eat the full combo two seconds later
Plans within Plans within Plans... the curious thing is that i watched this fight like 20 times already and only today I noticed this trap wasnt an accident but a battle of the minds

>> No.81834973

no die

>> No.81836116

make Coyo do pushups

>> No.81836606

>>81836116
coyo's coyos pressing the floor

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pururu on streets: https://www.twitch.tv/amakipururu

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>> No.81839617

>>81839478
Oh wow that’s kinda hot

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>> No.81840284

>>81840105
Take your mid tier ass back to the dojo

>> No.81841229

>>81840284
cmon foobs is like, high mid tier
real mid tier is like botan doing 60 hit combo and doing as much damage as 2 korone ex chainsaws

>> No.81841826

>>81841229
>died 2021
>born 2023
Welcome back Smash Ultimate Sheik

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>>81730697
DB2BD069

>> No.81842304

>>81842141
this dude always picking times when I'm not home

>> No.81843699

life

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guess I will just keep working , hit me up if anyone wants to play

>> No.81845974

Ember is talking about the tournament btw if anyone wants to listen in

>> No.81846228

>>81845974
not home right now, what's she saying?

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>>81846228
right now? speaking spanish phrases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ykcK1S5qg4

>> No.81847493

>>81847327
wait is ember a spic or is she doing a bit

>> No.81847594

>>81847493
bit, she knows two phrases and was googling the rest

>> No.81849570

>>81847327
I just realized its the art with shimada and rosemi in the thumbnail
is ember ex tsunderia or is it just a joke because of dizzy

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2hu granblue: https://www.twitch.tv/reimmomo

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>> No.81852974

looks like keys or whatever are going to be sent out soon for 2xKOs open beta
I can't wait to play battle for the tag battle

>> No.81853116

>>81836606
Not if she’s doing it right.

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just realized sign ups are next week
surely we won't kwab

>> No.81855476

>>81849570
She was Kallin. Just like Dizzy, its no secret.

>> No.81856035

>>81855476
curse of the crown...

>> No.81856380

>>81852974
is normal opening betas a year before release?

>> No.81856431

>>81856380
my ass is retarded and meant to say the alpha beta

>> No.81857085

>>81856431
>the alpha beta
gamma delta epsilon zeta eta theta iota kappa lambda mu nu xi omicron pi rho sigma tau upsilon phi chi psi omega

>> No.81857862

>>81840284
not standing for this backtalk, I'll train my ass off just to spit in the face of Coco, Aki, Pekora and Botan players

>> No.81857879

>>81857862
Evolve the meta then, do it

>> No.81857944

>>81857862
Sora is also bullshit

>> No.81857945

>>81857879
aint no way you can evolve this meta if the devs dont balance it
coco and korone are probably gonna stay un-threatened until the devs do something

>> No.81858268

>>81857944
>they're all bullshit or straight garbage w/ no inbetween
pain

>> No.81858487

>>81857944
>>81858268
Sora and Pekora slightly feel like the only decent high tiers since their learning curves match the amount of payoff
Meanwhile all the other ones are just spamming crutches of broken shit and popping off 20-30+ hit combos to half your health every time you whiff/trade

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>>81858268
Korone is pretty strong too
The broken ones are Pekora and Aki
Sora is stupid but no one can break the skill cap needed
The tricky ones are Coco, Ollie and Botan, those who are death itself against beginners but cant hold against top players, with Coco being much closer to broken than the other two
The garbage are suisei, ina and foobs

Ayame is perfectly balanced

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>>81858590
>fubuki garbage
she is way better then botan and ollie in my honest peppinion

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sophie live with TNS tekken: https://www.twitch.tv/afterschoolsophie
I can't believe she's still on law

>> No.81861457

almost confused myself thinking sophie was playing eddie but she just messed up her overlay

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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>>81862404
are you noticing the badges just now?

>> No.81863369

>>81862585
nice white spec

>> No.81866537

lof

>> No.81869212

>>81730697
anyone trying to play ids before I do some work

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no context

>> No.81869685

>>81869212
I can play post a room

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>>81863369

>> No.81869941

>>81869685
8BA84EC1

>> No.81870127

>>81869685
>says his internet is better but it keeps jumping around
curious

>> No.81870693

>>81858751
NTA but she still falls short to full committal play styles (her mixed versatility doesn't get enough payoff in upper level play)

A hardworking foobs can overcome mid-tiers, but the moment you start touching characters that can commit to either side of passive or rushing, you're getting zoned or out damaged

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ok so that round you won showed that I won after that over head when you whiffed your EX move and I couldn't move and everything was in slow motion

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Idol Showdown doesn't have a real meta because everyone who plays it is ass

>> No.81872374

>>81871288
This Coco is shitting aggressively

>> No.81872664

>>81872053
any recs for other fightan to try instead? I've been around the block with streets, DBZF, and some other anime fighters, I ought to pick up something legit alongside the kusoge

>> No.81873113

>>81872664
no

>> No.81875314

>>81870127
I will have to check that it shouldnt happen any more

>> No.81875420

>>81872664
mugen
like what are you looking for? Might as well play some random shit on fightcade

>> No.81875429

>>81872664
honestly wait for 2xko its going to be trash but everyone will play it might as well learn it now and be good when everyone gets in the train

>> No.81875802
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Playing grapplers is absolutely ass when there is no actual math for the block stun and invincible frames
In street fighter its 2 frames after wakeup here ten can go by and you will still wiff the grab this is the most counter intuitive mechanic in the world the only way to make certain it will not whiff is to empty jump super

I understand these are the rules im just saying they are stupid ones

>> No.81876008

>>81875802
maybe you should actually try grabbing me when I'm blocking and no the universal grab button doesn't count. You aren't abusing the double damage the flame is giving you at all

>> No.81876395

>>81876008
>maybe you should actually try grabbing me when I'm blocking and no the universal grab button doesn't count. You aren't abusing the double damage the flame is giving you at all

it will whiff if i touch you while you block or wake up that command grab is nearly impossible to land after blocking and its so by design
the only way to do it is with the coco tail plug and thats because your opponent is literally +, its not supposed to be a setup is trading oki for damage

>> No.81877009

>>81876395
i feel like its a spacing thing more then a whiffing thing

>> No.81877345

>>81877009
its the absurd amount of invulnerable to grab frames and which exact number appears no where in the wiki so its impossible to calculate added to the fact that in their genious they decided normals could be cancelled into the command grab even if it will miss 100% of the time there is zero use for this

>> No.81878118

>>81877345
yeah unfortunately no one is updating that wiki with precise autism so you just got to remember dumb interactions like that

>> No.81878590

>>81858590
The thing with Coco is that if she can actually play her game, she works and she's horrifying. But then there's characters where you practically lose on character select. Sora? Has to block round start because 5M, then she gets slowly pushed into the corner for endless pressure. Aki? Zoning hell. And don't get me started on Pekora. Same deal, starts off blocking because 5M, then gets her entire kit countered by literally two moves, TNT and the rocket launcher. I'm convinced Pekora wins 100/0 against Coco, it is an unwinnable matchup if you have any remote clue what to do.

>> No.81879079

>>81872664
EXVS or Starward

>> No.81880962
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tetomi streets: https://www.twitch.tv/tetomi27

>> No.81881850
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Finally made my way back up to Tekken King! And kinda better with recognizing my enemies attack flows. Although, I think it's just the game knowing that I hate it. So it matchmade me with people that suck to give me a false sense of security...
Also, I've been watching videos of some random korean Asuka player and it helped

>> No.81882315

>>81881850
50% winrate my beloved

>> No.81884045

>>81881850
this tako is deceased

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>> No.81888279

>>81884045
which decease?

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la creatura mk: https://www.twitch.tv/dreammxy

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I didn’t know this but it makes sense now that I’m reading it. This will allow me to decrease shield stun (make moves a bit safer) if I implement it

>> No.81888905

>>81888842
>make moves safer
Less safe, sorry. You can just fair shields and grab or dash away at the moment

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>> No.81890860

Also anons I’m looking for advice. Does anyone have a good example of a cartoony “water shell” that I could take inspiration from to design decent vfx on Gura’s fspecials and limit up special? And something for the neutral B charge projectile. I’m not amazing at water effects

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botan streets with her team: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMvxd-Qhn1I
>>81890860
what do you mean water shell

>> No.81890983

>>81890860
Any examples?

>> No.81891188
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>>81890983
This is the “boost shell” from sonic games. Essentially I’m hoping to create something like this but watery for Gura’s fspecial dash. limit fspecial would simply be a larger/more exaggerated version and could be reused for uspecial

>> No.81891363

>>81891188
maybe fludds noises from super mario sunshine with some more editing, theres a boost nozzle in that game

>> No.81891419

sleb

>> No.81891612

>>81891363
I’m using smash’s fludd charge/spray sfx for charge shot, I’m not sure about visuals though

>> No.81893131

>>81891419

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>>81822836
my poor Joshu!

>> No.81894918

>>81894072

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>>81894918

>> No.81897008

>>81890536

>> No.81897547

>>81890860
Squirtle Side B and Up B?

>> No.81898071
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>>81894072
im so happy!

>> No.81898852

coyo streaming tomorrow

>> No.81898953
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square gate supremacy

>> No.81899676

>>81898953
Why are you posting a beyblade part

>> No.81901216

Anyone else play fighting games to have fun and improve over time through gameplay?

>> No.81902675

>>81901216
We speak english here anon, please make yourself understandable

>> No.81902849

>>81901216
I would if I could improve

>> No.81905131

lib

>> No.81905983

>>81901216
This is the usual fighting games playing experience

>> No.81908547

ded

>> No.81908550

>>81905131

>> No.81909454
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ren streets: https://www.twitch.tv/ren_kisaragi__

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>> No.81910259

>>81898852
oh look it's another kusoge

>> No.81911094

ded

>> No.81912058

>>81898953
kekken...

>> No.81912977

>>81891612
have you played any game that isn't smash by chance

>> No.81913225

>>81912058
ngl, I just switched from controller to a stick with a square gate, and it feels nice than I thought it would

>> No.81913316

>>81912977
Fortnite lel
Also sonic games and a lot of Bloons tower defense. Sonic is where I got the idea for the “shell”
And on THAT note: I’m cooking, I'm cooking

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>> No.81914669

>>81913316
just look up the boost nozzle from super Mario sunshine, it's probably what you're looking for

>> No.81915865

bump soon
you got this korone baker? I'm not home for probably another hour and 45 minutes though the thread might last that long who knows

>> No.81915963
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>>81914669
I think this is pretty close innit

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>> No.81919697

>>81910259
she has to give something to the JP coyodachis

>> No.81921323

>check twitch
>no streams

>> No.81923007

flour

>> No.81923368

>check /fig/
>no posts

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>>81878590
I think Coco can beat Peko-chan perfectly fine actually. It's only hard if you can't see the gaps in her zoning and having an answer to it

>> No.81924185

>>81872664
Karnov's Revenge

>> No.81924375

>>81923912
The issue is she can't really exploit those gaps. TNT stops all of Coco's grounded options except 5H, Raptor (Bad) and super cartwheel (requires meter, very risky and committal). You have to either jump over TNT or build meter. If you sit back and spam 22S for meter, she can easily find a gap and hit you for it. Trying to jump in on her is insanely hard because rocket pushes her backwards, and the only way to both jump over TNT and hit her in the rocket recovery frames is to do a preemptive early jump that easily gets stuffed by 2H. And when you get hit by Pekora once, you die. She just gets to spam a bunch of bullshit on block and getting out is insanely hard. It doesn't help that rocket both outranges fire and forces knockdown, which means her zoning disengaging tool also leads into the oki of doom. This might be okay if round start was doable, but you're forced to block at the start because Pekora 5M outspeeds everything you have at that range. It's atrocious.

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>>81924375
Just jump in and waveland to platform so you can shield her attempted anti air and punish with your fastest OOS option OH WAIT you can’t do that

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https://www.twitch.tv/tsukimibdohrnii
Tsukimi B. FIGHTAN in Street Fighter 3 Third Strike because she really liked that one clip of Hayao

>> No.81925366

>>81924185
TIGER BAZOOKA

>> No.81925395

>>81925134
oh she's doing that weird thing where you can see her hands but its still the vtuber model

>> No.81925449

korone baker is dead

>> No.81925541

>>81924869
As a side note, I did forget to mention all fires beating TNT, plus the metered one being able to just get past TNT, but that requires you to get meter in the first place which is near impossible in the matchup. Either way, it's an absolutely atrocious matchup, probably the worst in the entire game. And it wouldn't even be that hard to make it somewhat tolerable, if 5M could beat TNT it'd at least be doable.

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>street fighter collection

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I completely forgot remy was french
I thought he was british

>> No.81926211

>>81925967
Same, actually

>> No.81926249

>>81925967
The dude has the same name as the rat from Ratatouille.

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>>81924375
Alot of that just sounds like it can be mitigated by just walking and blocking. And even If the rockets do that much pushback on block, perfect blocking it is a good way to nullify that pushback giving you trouble. As for dealing with 5M and 2H, It is unfortunate due to how crazy good its speed & priority is so I'd advise trying to preemptively attack with Coco's 3H at a near tipping spot since it's good as a check normal to stop that run in 5M attempts into confirm and if you miss at that tipping point range, I wouldn't be too scared since its generally hard to whiff punish and can cancel with fireball to keep safe.
Dealing with 2H might just be a gameplay style kind of issue, since I generally don't jump that much when playing except off of knockdowns and crossup attempts, but If you insist that it is troubling you, I would say going for a jump into airdash feints work well since she will have to gauge if you are actually in range and will try at times, If she does do 2H and she whiffs, I know there's not really some super amazing reward you get like a combo punish, but you closed the gap between her and can start going ape mode on her ass with Coco's dash up 5L stagger and safe fireball string game. The one thing Pekora sucks at is dealing with pressure and that's one thing Coco good at in the upclose range.
I don't know if this is really that insightful since I don't play this game that seriously and don't land big dick combos like the rest of the sweats do, but I can at least tell what they're doing to me and how to deal most of the time (after a few assbeatings). Just my 2 cents

>> No.81926695

>doesn't understand video game jargen
>picks a charge character

>> No.81926879

>>81926695
I'll be honest anon, I think she just saw a pretty lady and went with it (based)

>> No.81926980

>>81926879
many such cases

>> No.81926996

>>81926282
Walking and blocking doesn't help, mainly because the last thing you want is to let Pekora start a mixup on you. That's the main issue, she's gonna have TNT guaranteed on the floor at round start because you absolutely have to block, or backdash but that doesn't solve the issue either. And trying to get past TNT is a bitch and a half. If you block it, you let Pekora just get in on you for free where she can start her disgusting mixup game. Playing slow just means you keep getting constantly chipped down while she gets a bigger and bigger meter advantage. When she gets that advantage, she can just get in against you for free and you eat a billion mixups into death. She basically just plays Coco's game, but better in every single way with a bunch of extra cherries on top.

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she almost choked

>> No.81928150

bread
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