/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

you decide

(note all the !! in her tweets)

>>8148475
>my oshi has my least favorite new design
the lord giveth I guess

>>8148565

>>8148565

>>8148475

>>8148757
>>8148842
Thank fuck her avatar didn't get downgraded

>>8149136
t-thats just a coincidence, r-right?

im always impressed by the power of the local schizos

What's her talent though, I've seen her archive. She wasn't that interesting.

>>8149372
Broadway-trained singer.
https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1405786005970591747
https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1405786051688472579
https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1426773330091253760

>>8148258
>>8148475
>>8148565
>>8148757
>>8148842
>>8149136
>>8149277
>her whispers, as an avatar of Mother Nature, have healing properties.
Ceres (Nature) is ASMR vtuber.
Hana was NOT.
case closed.

>>8149451
Okay she got me interested now. She is so gonna sing during debut

>>8148258
Isnt she a chink?
Did the zhangs infiltrate cover?

As a flan I really hope she got in, but the chances are almost 0

>>8149714
Korean Leaf
Speaks jp, kr and english

>>8148258
Most likely, and we know who probably referred her to Cover

How do I cope with feeling both happy for her and sad for the Kawaii girls that got left in the dust?

>>8149136
If she really is Hana, oh boy. Pre-debut goslings don't know what they're getting into.

>>8150034
Is her l2d bad too?

I don't like her design, but atleast it's not IRyS tier.

>>8150202
I never noticed it was bad although now that I know who the RIGGER was I can see some of his trademarks looking at one of her streams just now. Certainly not a bad L2D though, very cute.

>>8150202
It's whatever. It certainly wasn't as fucking horrendous as her genmate Reina's first rig, which she actually ended up fixing herself.

>>8150101
Looking at some of her stuff now. Her English is too fucking cute. Hoping this is true.

>>8148258
I hope so. She's fun enough to watch to consider her worthy of having a bigger audience

>>8149136
pure coincidence

>>8148475
>>8149371
As I was telling /hlgg/ and as the schizo who made the connection, yes, I am 100% sure it's her.

Thank god she's back, flans. I have been missing her like crazy. I'm a little sad I won't get her attention anymore (There's much richer people than me) but I am happy she's gone on to bigger things. Her talent deserved it.

>>8149136
>Takes time to properly capitalize, the other one doesn't
>BUT GREEN HEARTS

>>8150898
That's rough dude

>>8150928
She was rigged by Shin Umiushi, who has done rigging for Gura and recently the botched Anya outfit. There is a connection

>>8150898
Watched enough of her stuff now that I'm 100% sure she's going to be my favorite on debut.

>>8150347
>she fixed it, knowing she was going to have to graduate eventually because of the timeline of events
This girl is a jewel...

>>8151110
It's hard to say since the others are unknown but expect a ton of kneeling when debut time comes around.

She was my oshi then and she is my oshi now.

>>8150898
I'll definitely miss the comfy chatting streams, but I agree her talent deserves this

My god, imagine how much more depth this new model and rigging are going to do for her.

I don't think my heart can take it.

>>8150278
IRyS's design would be fine in a still, but animated it's rough.

https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1428192578021715970

>>8148258
If true I wonder how much Cover paid to buy out her contract. She was only with Kawaii for a few months.

>>8149791
wow i just checked and I think you are right, she sound like Ina

Wait so it's just two exclamation points and 3 green hearts linking the two? Kinda weak don't you think? Also wasn't Hana herself a reincarnation that people didn't like for jumping ship so quickly?

>>8151722
It's just a twitter habit she has. She uses two exclamation marks without question, for every tweet she uses it on. Sometimes more but usually only two.

>>8151628
Anon, Cover can't even provide their talents with working hardware or tech support. She was likely made to pay back her model costs herself.

>>8151722
>Also wasn't Hana herself a reincarnation that people didn't like for jumping ship so quickly?
Nah. You're thinking of this bitch

>>8151722
And the Nature thematic, and the fact that they both use a lot of emotes in their tweets. Just a lot of coincidences happening all at once.

>>8151898
And the RIGGER connection. Its pretty obvious that the RIGGER has a good relationship with Cover so its likely that he referred her to Cover.

>>8151799
Small price to pay for how much she can potentially earn as a Hololiver even if they didn't buy her out.
I don't know much of anything about her, did she end up leaving Kawaii on good terms?

>>8151990
Yeah, she had like 3 graduation streams and all the Kawaii talents were present and wished her well. Not like the Tsunderia rrat who clearly did not leave on good terms.

She also constantly referenced Hololive memes.
https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1425227697869967363
https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1423840397973991429

You fags were calling me schizo then, you didn't want to believe.

I BELIEVED

>>8151990
Given her graduation stream and that she still have access to the YouTube account and Twitter, I guess she left on really good terms. Hopefully they earned enough to cover the costs of her model

>>8151990
Yes. They had a full group collab and Isla did a song cover and MV to say goodbye to her, and all the members wrote her a goodbye letter on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mms41dmxGG0

With all of this speculation people are going to be disappointed and take it out on the talent if it ends up not being her. Even though that is no fault to the talent themselves. Its gonna be the NijiEN penguin all over again, lol.

>>8152164
Obviously I can't speak for all flans, but I can safely say the majority of us will be really happy to have her back. She had a healthy and comfy community.

She was still a 2view, but one that we respected.

>>8152164
I hope Cover treats her well if it's actually her. I was hoping she would be in NijiEN

>>8152164
Hana was too small for it to negatively affect Ceres if it isn't her. If it is her then her former fans are going to be ecstatic.
Penguin was being compared to a Gura-like channel with over 1m subs. The shitposts of her being a Gura killer backfired really hard.

>>8152271
Look, I like the Nijis, but let's be honest, the success she would get from being a Holo is much more attractive.

It's more than likely Kawaii got a really good deal from this transfer, regardless of where she goes.

>>8150278
This is like mutt's law but with IRyS instead.

>>8152392
This is hardly going to affect Kawaii unfortunately. Some people will check out her old vods, few will check out the other Kawaii girls due to it, and even fewer will stick around to become actual fans. It will be interesting if she actually did make it in though, since Nene was Kawaii's heavy hitter.

>>8151722
Don't forget she abruptly left KawaPro. Something made Hana submit her grad request to KawaPro only 2months into her contract and this parallels Rosemi so much. Usually Vtubers just stick it out till the end of the contract since its only 1 year but def something big Cover acceptance happened that caused her to force a grad so early. Like u don't see the other members of KawaPro just up and leave for no reason so early.

>>8152392
IF it is her (there's decent evidence that it is, but let's not be cheering or celebrating until actual debut to hear voice to confirm.....)
It's likely she applied to both, but hadn't gotten confirmation from Cover that she was in yet, so she debuted for Kawaii. She likely was upfront with them that "Hey, I applied for hologen2, so if they say I'm in, I'll be leaving for them instead". If they went ahead and were okay with that knowing that they might lose her, and if all her genmates knew too, then the parting would be on good terms that both parties knew would come around as soon as she was accepted.

Of course, we could all be wrong and there's egg on everyone's faces, but we'll see how that pans out come debut day.

What if all five Kawaii girls were EN Gen 2. Same generation of girls, different company.

>>8152974
Nene's voice coming out of Hakos would be amazing

>>8152739
Before I said there was a 75% chance but after the avatar reveal and now anons connecting the dots im willing to go 95% chance she got in. Cover most likely had Hana's application going thru the stages and saw that she was HanaFlo and said to themselves 'Hey this chick plays a green nature themed girl pretty well and is multi-talented and bilingual' and decided to poach her. It also fits now with the Minecraft merger thing(will need translators for the rest of HoloEN) and Hana practiced so long building that base for her grad present. If i fall on my face because of this rrat so be it but this is a rrat worth believing and continues to grow the closer we get to debut.

How was she personality wise? From the few streams I saw she was quite comfy

>>8153918
She was comfy but she also liked smugass shitposting. Watch her Ronald fanfic reading stream

>>8152739
That's probably exactly what happened. Kawaii shot their shot and lost a talent, but they still have Nene and Charzu whom are actually really good vtubers. Reina and Isla, less so but they fit a niche.

>>8153918
She's a yab machine, in a good way.

>>8154559
Isla is my Kawaii oshi though...

Why hasn't anyone posted that she hearted her comments in the grad stream only a day ago. I don't know why she still has access to her account but she does.

>>8154645
She hearted my comment too... Bless this spirit of nature...

>>8154610
Don't get me wrong, I love both Reina and Isla but their content variety is pretty generic.

>>8154645
Didn't Shachi do the same thing to people saying she was the NijiEN penguin just to fuck with them?

>>8154766
yeh but look at all the other clues. Nature themed avatar, tweets, minecraft merger in desperate need of bilinguals, all the song titles she sang in her grad. U kinda just have to say that was Shachi being Shachi but this is Hana being Hana.

>>8154766
Shachi had already said she was graduating because she got a programming job if I recall.
People just kept assuming she was actually going to NijiEN or Hololive.

Ogey. Tell me about Hana.
What is she like?

>>8155015
>>8149451

>>8155045
Yeah, I read that. I watched her graduation stream. But what is she like in general?

>>8155069
Chaotic comfy streams, I guess?
The most "Hana" stream I can recommend is the Ronald Fanfic Readalong

>>8155117
Thanks, that helps. Sounds very appropriate to her new reincarnation.

>>8154986
>all the song titles she sang in her grad
What do you mean? I miss that stream

>>8155069
She's competent, passionate about her hobbies, really enjoys teasing her friends (expect a lot of yab banter), and is just a down to earth comfy person. No drama, no hard feelings, a little emotional when the time comes. Her favorite movie is La La Land and she understand what gosling is. She will make /hlgg/ squeal, I promise you that.

She's also a weeny for hot weather because she can't afford AC. But she needed an SSD and an mattress before that because she was sleeping on an air mattress. So she has the saviorfag appeal.

All in all, someone who actually deserves to be with the rest of the Holo girls.

>>8155117
NTA but I will support her from this point onwards.

>>8155160
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl3WYZ0mBvaE7v3dVGlYPeo21D3CGOQUp

I just want to hear her Eyyyy's again bros...

>>8150034
>>8151071
i don't like the guy either, but can we all agree that design of Anya's face is NOT good in general and bad rigging just exposing it?

>>8155257
Thats really helps thanks. How is her humor? Seiso , yab or shitposting

>>8155853
Vanilla shitposting but not overbearing

>>8155853
Yab seiso

Or as her flans referred to it, "seison't"

>>8155257
where she from? What times she used to stream?

>>8155257
>She's also a weeny for hot weather because she can't afford AC
S T R E A M I N G
N
A
K
E
D

>>8155915
East coast NA

>>8149451
>>8152099
>>8154645
even if i would personally prefer more mature VA for Nature, i would be happy for Hana's fans if this is true.
BUT
personally can'T believe this rrat
why smal Corp chuba who streammed for <100 viewers and will never come back to this persona ever again, would give such "strong signals" to her tiny fanbase? this is not Coco leaving big corp channel with mil+ subs.
+she is under "conditions restrictions" with cover.
+this>>8149557

Also, she's vegan.
Personal reasons of course, but it fits the nature theme.

>>8156001
Is she a druid irl?

>>8155965
Hana really loved her flans and always felt guilty for being super busy (probably with HoloEN stuff).

She made several overt hints that she would reincarnate. She wants them to find her, wherever her new life is.

>>8156077
Probably.

so definite
>hana flores
>seru kisen
>namie

maybe
>ky0resu
>shachi

>>8156154
Yeah, according to the strongest rrats around.

>>8156154
Which is which?

>>8156115
if it is true ihope Nene will be next

>>8156154
Namie the artist right

>>8156566
I think so.
The teaser had Namie's art for the group pic but no credits given to Namie.

>>8156566
she clearly drew the promo art at the end of the teaser but isn't credited so it's probably similar to ina in gen 1, speculation is that she's sana

>>8156154
Kyoresu has a really heavy accent speaking English from the one stream clip I’ve seen. She mainly speaks Spanish and Russian. She sings in English like Gura sings in Japanese.

>>8156154
hana and seru line up together with grad dates so close. This means that Cover would rather select no names with no past history that fans will dig up that causes a yabstorm. This makes Shachi less likely now cus shes got a long history and has said she got a bf so im ruling her out.

>>8156215
Why do people think Seru got in? Just because she recently graduated or did she give any hints

>>8156091
>>8156154
Don't think kyo would be in. Mori and Kiara seems to have good impressions on the rat and wants to befriend her all the more. She's gonna be a hidden gem like Ollie is with networking and entertaining, not focused with music and memes like Gura.

>>8156315
I hope Nene makes it big enough that she doesn't need to by then. I unironically want one of these small agencies to grow big and succeed so that the top isn't just Hololive/Niji/Vshojo.

>>8156713
She's connected to the artist who realized the super detailed kronii fanart like 10 minutes after the reveal. He had insider info and schizos tracked seru down.

>>8156681
>>8156687
+ She is friend of Ina

>>8156712
Not necessarily; Gen 1 had someone who was fairly big (Gura) and also a no-name indie who happened to have experience and potential (Ame). Gen 2 could have a similar spectrum.

>>8156803
but when ur history is a bf and ur in an idol company it will never be a good match, especially when Cover can avoid this before even accepting her.

>>8156770
unfortunately this is not how game work. + Nene is already in the corporation by default. so i just hope the big corps will hire "best person" for a job.

>>8156790
>schizos tracked seru down
the artist dont tweet/retweet much so you could literally see the retweet of a seru friend inviting people to join seru's graduation stream in 10 seconds scrolling down the timeline

>>8156154
Funny, arent all hana, namie and seru korean leafs who knows eng jp and korean ?

>>8156994
Namie is aussie

>>8156994
Namie is aus iirc.

>>8156154
Please let the other 2 be literal 2 views.

>>8156713
Check the fan artist who released the fanart 10mins after the reveal. Look at their other works and what they have been retweeting as well.

>>8156994
I don't think Hana can actually speak korean. She can sing and pronounce the words really damn well. But the same can be said of French, Japanese, and Chinese songs.

She sang the modern Mulan theme, which is notorious for being disliked by the chinese.

>>8157121
2 bug repellents in EN2 then.

>>8156962
Well Hololive wasn't always at the top either. As long as my oshi is in Prism then I'm going to believe it can still be done.

>>8152282
Ceres will be fine regardless but Hana's reincarnation might get shitposted to death if she went somewhere else. I remember how people were talking about how Miki is a shoe in for HoloEN2 and how it's basically confirmed because she is into idols and teared up at an idol scene in her graduation stream. Then it turned out that she is in NijiEN2 and I see threads about how she is an ungrateful backstabbing rat bitch whore who bailed on her poor small startup in the catalog ever since.

>>8156896
Cover doesn't reject people for being in relationships.

>>8157043
Didnt Ina mentioned friend in Australia?

>>8157215
Most of those are Hololive tribalists just looking to stir up shit, but the Tsunderia general isn't positive towards her either. Meanwhile everyone so far is reacting positively to Hana, and she left on good terms with Kawaii.

>>8157266
Yes they reject them but its clear they are not fond of them either

>>8157121
Based.

>>8157121
good

>>8157188
good luck to her

>>8157358
Dont reject them*

>>8157515
It's Yura actually

I hope she does because we need an English Holo to play Rimworld.

>>8157215
The Rose President isn't a fair comparison at all because of her checkered past. And even then, she basically had no real talent besides streaming.

Apples and oranges.

>>8157591
Ceres.... AoE2 onegai...
Collab with Civ... 2 Player v 2 CPU... imagine the kino...

shes the bird

>>8157708
If this is true birb becomes an even bigger favorite for me.

Why does cover just get middling girls from middling start ups? They did that for 2 of them. Surely they had higher profile people apply. If the rumor that they got an /asp/ without prior experience is true then I don't know what is going on.

>>8157708
I thought so too but then I started to make comparisons and Civ didn't match her style at all.

I was blinded by the mommy memes but then I realized they were being forced by the community and Ceres is definitely HER.

>>8157358
How is that clear? The only confirmed holo who had a known boyfriend, as far as I know, is Amelia. They are an idol company but they don't play by the same rules as traditional idol companies when you take into account that they use an avatar instead of their faces.

>>8152103
Strange, I would assume they'd be jealous. Maybe she promised collabs.

>>8157591
>>8157695
imagine if HoloEN gen2 member plays RTS befor Rosemi

>>8157050
That is my wish as well. I mean those 3 looks good but I really want some nobodies

>>8156154
I thought one of them was Kätzchen. Man this is giving me headache

>>8149451
she's really good

>>8157948
Then I can see that Kawaii more than happy to make the trade off. A collabs with Holos is something that any indie and small agency would kill to have

>>8152392
HoloEN2 auditions were after the NijiEN auditions, it's possible she applied for both but got rejected from Nijisanji but accepted for Hololive. If the audition dates were switched we might be seeing Dokibird and Mint in Hololive and Hana in Nijisanji.

>>8157948
Or maybe they're all friends and well-adjusted people who are excited to see each other succeed

>>8158180
Shh. People can't understand that.

>>8152739
I'm thinking that being in these small start ups it goes without saying they applied to Nijisanji and Hololive. I just assume most of them do, those 6000+ applicants have to come from somewhere. And no one could really blame them for leaving since everyone else would too.

>>8155965
Suisei was obsessed with keeping all 40 of her indie viewers. You really don't know people's hearts but actions speak a lot.

>>8158222
Anon, this 4chan if you're not sprinkle with a dose of cynicism then you wouldn't be here in the first place

>>8157787
To minimize risk. Imagine if someone like Froot from Vshoujo got in. Sure she can guarantee a big number that gets multiplied but she has past history with cheating on her husband. Whereas Hana has extremely small history and fans have no stones to throw at her. Cover isn't going to hire 5 Coco types for this reason.

>>8157948
Not likely. Even if she wanted to she'd have to go through the manager.

>>8158294
>You really don't know people's hearts but actions speak a lot.
I like her more now.

>>8158294
>Suisei was obsessed with keeping all 40 of her indie viewers. You really don't know people's hearts but actions speak a lot.
Unrelated but I love Suisei

So it's another singer? Oh boy I can't wait.

>>8149451
I... I think I just died. Bro’s. This is the first time I’ve ever goslinged to a Vtuber. This music reminds me of my depressive high schools days. Bro’s... I don’t think I’ll make it if this is Fauna.

>>8158153
Whoever didn't accept Pomu and picked Kiara instead should be fired

>>8158312
They don't want people who will think they are too big for the brand. They probably focus more on demeanor, talent, and temperament over past life numbers. I prefer NijiEN's philosophy of rewarding success with more success and letting everything sort itself out instead of trying to find Mrs Right.

>>8158506
Same anon, same.

>>8157948
See >>7042115
Ceres herself will not be collabing with KawaPro but maybe another genmate will. Hana also said in her Twitcast "watching them(Kawaii girls) from afar" and wont be interacting with them at least on stream.

>>8158522
Gura really was the perfect hire for Cover. She's genuinely talented and entertaining and can pull in a huge audience, but she's also cripplingly docile and can't stand up for herself, and thus easy to nudge in whatever direction management thinks is best.

>>8158056
Kätzchen is the connection to seru

>>8158506
As much as I dislike Kiara she is very vital in creating network for cover in the west and a person with enough social skill to act as a mediator in sea of introvert. Her greatest weakness is her pride and unwillingness to constructive feedback.

>>8158506
It turns out Kiara was pretty divisive, but look at her resume objectively
-Fluent in three languages (German, English, Japanese)
-ex-idol, so singing/dancing experience
-streaming experience
-Enthusiasm and energy to blow past the interviews
You see this, know that you need at least one En/JP speaking talent, she's also IN Japan at the time which is another plus as it allows for the initial meetings etc to be even easier l, and I can see why Hololive picked Kiara.
Then she self-sabotages herself to a stupid degree and here.
>>8158404
Ah sui-chan...so glad that despite the royal fuckup at INNK that Yuujin, Tanigo and Fubuki were able to salvage the situation.

>>8158294
>Suisei
is this a bait? or you unironically compared Suisei who transferred to no name organization which didn't give much boost to her viewership or support and Hana who transferred to current Hololive?
i know Sui-chan backstory
>You really don't know people's hearts
neither do you.
i genuinely asked, if this is the case - fine!
i was mostly concerned by
>conditions restrictions
>lore (asmr)
stop putting words in ppls mouth

>>7042115
>Niji is all about Niji and Cover is all about Cover
No. People from both companies collab all the time with their former NND friends. If Hana were a holo jp you'd see kawaii pro girls collab with her in a few months.

>>8158788
>you unironically compared Suisei who transferred to no name organization which didn't give much boost to her viewership or support and Hana who transferred to current Hololive?
Not him but its a bigger deal if she still wanted her 100 viewers knowing its her even though she made it big.

>>8158797
Well shes not going to HoloJP, and she literally left 1 week ago. The risk is so high that they accidentally call her Hana, Cover management will not allow this to happen. They will def avoid a yab if possible.

>>8158958
Even if she does collab with them it will literally be months before she's even allowed to.

>Hana graduates
>/kpg/ stops being made
Really makes me think

>>8158856
>>8158856
read whole thing before replying. i didn't claim "know her heart" in ANY of my posts.
as i said
" was mostly concerned by
>contract restrictions
>lore (asmr)"
thats why im sceptical.

>>8158993
That's if Hana even wants to collab with them. Don't forget she herself would have to push for this and strongarm management into allowing her to collab with her former company. There's so many things preventing a Ceres collab with KawaPro it likely wont happen. Maybe they'll get a tweet if KawaPro is lucky.

>>8159058
I wasnt replying to your restriction stuff.
I was just emphasizing her care for fans.
Couldn't care less about your other concerns.

>>8159053
While I don't think she made the threads herself, she def at a bare minimum lurks here. Just look at her channel she has a frickin picture of Ryan Gosling in her Lalaland watchalong and has made NUMEROUS gosling references.

I think the speculation we do months ahead of time is so meaningless. Both of some of our prime suspects graduated within 3 weeks of holoive en 2's debut. If the rrats aren't made up schizo babble that means graduations are barely a hint.

>>8159053
Most people in that general didn't talk about anyone besides Nene. Even Hana barely got much traction.

>>8159271
Goslings started breaking containment almost a year ago now. Kani Kanizawa has BR in her youtube header.

>>8159181
...
are you for real?
anon, i hope from the bottom of my heart that you are either too lazy to read into it or kidding me by this replies.
i'll just imagine you are big fan of Hana and want ppl to know how good she is.

>>8159403
Anon keep your autism at bay.
I wasn't the first guy you are talking with.
I just wanted to praise the fact that she still wanted to keep her fans. I dont want to go into an autism shitfest with you over restrictions.
Carry on.

>>8149451
if she got in then I'll believe once again that Cover scouting isn't shit yet

>>8149451
If it's her when will we get the tl;dr chumbud cope about how Gura is the better singer?

>>8150077
Ask over here >>8128956

>>8162474
After their debut when Gura will sing whole hlgg will be saying how gura mogged whole gen 2. The same thing happened with Irys

>>8162474
Shirposters will continue using her to shitpost, as is the way of things.
Actual chumbuds that aren't insecure shitheads will just be glad that she's got more gals to be friends with, and if Gura is willing, someone who's properly trained to give her some tips.
Regardless, board is gonna be a complete mess once debuts start.

>>8159053
>>/kpg/
kek I thought you were talking about the thread from /mu/

>>8157297
left in good terms while lying about the reason for graduation????

>>8163074
How do you know she was lying to them

>>8148258
Not all of us can make it. WNAGMI.

>>8163074
Judging by the way the other Kawaii girls treated her in comparison to how Tsunderia treated Ria, yeah, that's what we have to go with. And what is she gonna say to her audience? She's leaving because she's reincarnating? Lying is the best way to go about it.

>>8157297
Tsunderiafag here. The only ill will Tsunderia general has is that she streamed more and graduated later on her indie channel than as the rrat, which we were pissed about even before the Rosemi reveal. Hana, on the other hand, streamed exclusively in Kawaii, had a wide variety of skills that she showcased, and put in a ton of effort for her company and genmates right up until the final minutes of her graduation. Nothing personal against Rosemi, but there is a very stark contrast between how she acted towards Tsunderia and how Hana acted towards Kawaii

>>8163274
1. do nt reply to autistic bait
2.
>what is she gonna say to her audience?
this>>8154645
and this>>8152099
ps check graduation stream and filter by newest

>>8158056
..you seriously think Cover would let them make art of themselves on their roommate account, let all the talents retweet their roommates art, AND let them link their fucking roommate account on their twitter? Are you retarded?

>>8157956
>Imagine Rosemi not being a filthy tourist

>>8152974
Personally I want to see Nene as the underdog forging her path making her and the girls shine. She is going to do her 30k karaoke soon... it wasn't too long ago that it was for her 20k subs.

>>8159053
For a second I thought some kpop star became a vtuber, and that terrified me.

>>8163605
>Personally I want to see Nene as the underdog forging her path
Personally I want to see Nene happy one way or another

>>8163274
She could invent a better excuse than what she did about graduating to follow another path in music and that she won't reincarnate.

>>8163274
It was obvious the rrat didn't care about her genmates, Tsunderia or anyone around her during her stay and when she left. She would even ditch her Gen 1 collabs to stream on her indie account so it was blatently obvious she never saw them as a priority.

Hana's departure felt much more down to earth and genuiune and it's obvious she cared for Kawaii as a whole.

>>8163682
Or, she could not, and it literally wouldn't have mattered.

>>8163685
Lmao it's just work man. I don't even care that much about my irl coworkers.
I don't understand all this fuss about needing to be loyal to a literal corporation.

>>8163364
>right up until the final minutes of her graduation.
Actually she is helping her genmates even after her own graduation she is going to help Nene with her rigging.

>Calls herself Flores
>Can't speak Spanish
Explain?

It's so fucking funny how holobronies said for a year that holoen is fantasatic because they weren't vtubers before but now they can't use this argument because all of them were vtubers

>>8163811
>Calls herself Mori
>Naruhodo

>>8163832
>holoen
>weren't vtubers before
do better reps for your shity bait next time

>>8163897
Only Ame was a vtuber before faggot.

>>8163832
Not your strawman, SEAnigger.

>>8163931
Ina and Gura as well

>>8163897
>Only Ame
do better reps for your shity bait next time.
even youtube normies know better then you.

>>8164050
I knew Ina streamed before on twitch but did she really have a vtuber model?

>>8164220
Yes.
For bonus reference points, one of the models she was using bears a striking resemblance to her TTRPG character iirc.

>>8164220
I forget the game but she would draw things in 3D using a 3D avatar

>>8156794
if 1, she is indeed a friend of ina and 2, with sana being an apostle of the ancient ones according to her character lore, namie could make sense.

>>8164271
Thats true but i would not call Ina and Gura past personalities as vtubers just because they had model. Ame would be the only one that would be full time vtuber

>>8163743
If part of the deal is selling friendship (and it is for all streamers to a degree) then being a cunt to your on screen friends will rub some people up the wrong way.
And I know they are just co-workers, but it's not the same as you in your office. It's an entertainment industry.

>>8164503
>Gura
realy?

>>8150034
so this rigger is a big shot, right?
maybe he's Ceres Fauna boyfriend

>>8164576
She streamed like 2 days a week at max and half the time she didn't even used the avatar. I mean if u want u can call her vtuber but it wasnt even the prime source of her money

>>8164565
>selling friendship
Not really. Some of the biggest streamers are even the biggest cunts but they have entertaining personalities (just look at the current biggest streamer xqc). I don't watch him but just that fact disproves your statement.
I just don't understand the extent of why one would value loyalty to a corporation so much. I don't care if the entertainer I watch is working in one company or another. But I guess this board is full of corpo bootlickers or something

>Cere Fauna
Thats the Niji spy, right?

>>8164679
Yes he rigged Gura, he is the best of the best

>>8149136
>Hana sounds like an autistic Ina with a Kiara laugh

Oh god please don't be her

>>8164271
This one?

>>8164733
>I just don't understand the extent of why one would value loyalty to a corporation so much
If you find a startup chuuba you like, odds are you like the way they interact with the other chuubas in the startup and the culture they create together. When that interaction and friendship is gone (at least publicly), it sucks, especially if you liked the others in the startup too. It hurts to see someone leave it for something else, especially if it's for something "better". The trick is that you have to be well-adjusted enough to realize that if their friendships were genuine in the first place, they'll still interact in private

>>8164759
If it's really Hana then one of her mates in Kawaii was a huge nijifag. It would be hard not to at least get introduced to who they are in those circumstances.

>>8164879
i like Hana, BUT i want me adult Onee-san's ASMR much more

>>8164733
Because Tsunderia is hardly a corporation, and more one guy who invested his all into it, as well as two other staff members who are also talents. It wasn't wrong for Ria to leave, she made the right decision, but if the Tsunderia thread is to be believed, she hardly put in the effort, made no attempts of getting close to any of the other girls, and basically just dipped after sucking out a bunch of money and resources, including streaming hardware since I believe Tsunderia sponsors that too. Now she Ria got unpersoned by them, meanwhile Hana's vods are all still up and all the Kawaii girls gave her positive farewells.

>>8164961
I believe so, but it's been ages since I saw the models she used before she joined Hololive. All I know is that as soon as I saw her sketch of Yuul it definitely struck me as at least inspired by one of em.
>>8165059
Yea, that makes sense.
We'll know for sure once Saturday/Sunday roll around though, but this rrat at least has some convincing arguments.

>>8165059
Not only is Hana's account still up, she still has access to it, and was using that access to heart comments on her graduation stream implying she's going to Hololive 12 hours ago.

>>8165031
It's hard to be a nijifag without know Japanese
Who?

>>8165252
Wow, I wonder what kind of career move it is to go from Kawaii Pro to Hololive. Seems unexpected, she didn't have the highest profile.

>>8165288
Isla. Previous life was friends with Pomu and cited Ponpima as the inspiration to start vtubing.

>>8165507
Hana and Isla seem to be co-workers than friend tho

>>8164993
My impression was that Ria never started getting along terribly well with the rest of Tsunderia in the first place so it's not like there was an image to be torn down.
Tsunderiafags are mostly (not really at this point) mad that she didn't put in as much effort into her career in Tsunderia as she could even if it was short lived but as someone who doesn't give a shit about Tsunderia I don't think we know nearly enough for rrats to be anything more than that. Miki might have been a bit autistic but she did make some indie friends and seems to work hard and get along well enough with everyone in NijiEN so her behavior in Tsunderia is an outlier. It's also only Tsunderia that unpersoned her. Other people in the industry who would be in the know if she was that much of a bitch didn't. For all we know Tsunderia might have had worse response when they found out that she is jumping ship than Kawaii did with Hana. It's hard to put in effort when people treat you like a backstabbing rat since day 1.

>>8165760
All I'm saying is she would have heard about NijiEN from Isla and that might be why she is the only HoloEN2 so far to follow them on twitter.

>>8162474
Naah Sabaton cemented her position until someone had the balls to sing similar song then they will never get any attention from hardcore christian.

>>8166049
She didn't sing that song well at all though. I love Sabaton but her version was fucking awful. She's a great singer but that was a bad example of it.

>>8164698
Now this is just moving goal post, I could say the same with Ayame.
>She is not vtuber
>She is not streaming every day/week
What's next??

>>8166091
>She's a great singer but that was a bad example of it.
>"hehe, meme song. Deus Vult"
she was just joking around, anon. chill.
btw, fan of Power metal

>>8166091
It's not just about the quality. It's about her selection and having a balls to sing that type of song.

>>8148258
Wasn't she going to be chaos?

So we have Shachi, Hana, what's the other?

>>8149451
HISTORY REPEATS

She is Mori and is already being shipped right off the gate with Sana who will probably be Kiara because she has been thirsty on twitter.

>>8166345
this>>8156154

>>8166265
What's so bad about it other than /pol/ misinterpreting the lyrics? It's a cool historical moment and the song has a great chorus.

>>8166345
>>8156154

The bottom two are still up for the debate

>>8166288
She's too timid to be Chaos. Kiara and Mori likes whoever is behind Chaos already meaning she's pulling a faster punch than everyone else. It means something because both were turned off by Ollie's early DMs, but not this girl.

>>8166345
No evidence for Shachi. During the NijiEN speculation she leaned in hard but there hasn't been a peep or a like out of her for HoloEN 2.

>>8166265
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suW5b5Vvmuc
*Dabs on your cringe "metal" song*

>>8166446
.....She's literally mumbling though

>>8163364
nijiEN fag here. why did people hype rosemi? she's the most boring of all 6.

>>8166345
Not Shachi, she confirmed having an office job as programmer.
So far:
Heavy implication
>Namgoreng from trailer animation
>Hana Flores from twitter activity, resemblance, and theme
>Kisei Seru from stupidity giving an early design access to her first fanart connected to her roommate account basically did a Nene
Still no clue, just based on their design and graduation time
>Kyoresu

>>8166127
I dont like Ayame a bit but respect her that she doesnt hide that she doesnt really care about hololive

>>8165252
Anon, she is just hearting every comment.

A few weeks before graduation she moved and got very busy with irl work, even said that she's glad her workplace have AC, since she's allergic to heat.

My rrat is that she got a good job offer and was busy during training, it probably also does not allow having a side gig, so she had to quit vtubing a few weeks after getting hired.

>>8166500
She has a lot of gachi.

>>8166511
I hope this is true, i don't really want shachi there

>>8166391
Everyone seems to love chaos behind the scenes. Is she an unknown or a non-vtuber performer?

Kiara keeps talking about Chaos having a beautiful voice.

>>8166615
anti Hana rrat>>8149557

>>8149451
I'm loving this singing, aaaarhhh this is too much

>>8166621
but why? she isn't even good at asmr

>>8166500
Her schtick as Miki was a wannabe idol that couldn't sing that well but tried her best, and she looked the part and was shy/seiso enough to create goslings. Her schtick as Ria was a chuuni loli rrat assassin that had a lot of confidence to go with her great design that led to a ton of comedic moments of her hilariously failing at video games. Rosemi's schtick is...what, a dominatrix that is really weak and not particularly masochistic? Weak premise to play off of, and that was always her greatest strength

The way she thanks super chats is crazy annoying so get ready for that.

>>8156705
That clip is from chat asking her to put on a fake Russian accent.

>>8166720
all she does is be clumsy and bad at games, it's easily the biggest fail for nijiEN recruiting so far, while Selen is their best.

>>8149557
Hana had a $20 mic.

>>8166615
>Yeah, I am moving on to HoloEN. See ya on the other side.
It's not as if she can say that.

>>8166666
this>>8156154
she is in "maybe list"
basically "loli voice singer" like

>>8148258
>3 month old account
has making your own vtuber become a part of Cover's audition process?

>>8166833
She was part of a small agency

>>8156154
Chaos - KyOresu
Nature - Hana Flores
Time - Seru
Civ - Anon?
Space - Namie

>>8166886
>Seru
check Seru and im fucking sad. give me my kuudere vtuber!

>>8166886
Just no kyoresu god fucking no

>>8166876
small independent agency, or Cover shell company made specifically to screen and process new talent?

>>8167044

>>8166666
Which is interesting since Mori love hard working people and creators

>>8148565
anon, how does it feel to have literal shit taste?

>>8167085
>checked her covers
holy shit, she she is worse than nyanners.
and i hate vwhores

>>8167131
She also loves height-challenged people and cute girls.

>>8167085
Kyo is probably the least likely, the speculation is pretty heavy and it's a "they stopped showing up streaming/content creation a few months ago" thing as evidence.

>>8167149
Anon If she did get in then she's gonna be sanitise just like Gura

>>8167179
Also stopped talking completely on her own discord server and any social media.

She either joined something or died.

>>8167212
There is no way they can sanitize her as they did with Gura.

She isn't an awkward mess like Gura is dealing with people.

>>8167124
>sanitise
dont give me hope

>>8167275
I mean, you'll be surprised what people are willing to do for money...
>>8167215
I wasn't aware she had stopped discord and other social media activity. That does sound more sus then.

>>8149557
>Ceres (Nature) is ASMR vtuber.
Saw a rrat that LemonLeaf is possible since: she had a sizable sub count, streamed on twitch as a vtuber, recently went on indifinite hiatus, her twitter is locked, and her last video she posted on youtube was about death. Not sure if rrat has legs though, but you could make an argument that it is possible LemonLeaf is Ceres and Hana is Mumei.

>>8167163
God I love Moririn

>>8167460
*open last video on youtube*
>"opening coldone with the boy"
>singing chug
ladies and gentlemen we've got her!

>>8167460
Lemon leaf thats asmr channel right?

THIS>>8167460
IS Gura killer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66wk843nUFQ

Don't take it out on the tree when you homos are wrong.

>>8167771
When have we been wrong?

>>8167721
Isn't this budget nyanners? Fuck no

>>8167460
>>8167721
literal who???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WgjHdNPS-Q

>>8167849
just rrat

>>8167805
Niji penguin.

>>8167939
doesn't count...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuxGgJ7Ntts

You better run, better run...

>>8167939
This feels entirely different. The penguin had people shitposting about her being a "Gura killer" that turned it into a tribalist thing, while this is just Hana fans who want it to be her.

>>8155965
Add to that Hana's sound quality I guess. I just watched her graduation karaoke and she sounds like she has the cheapest mic she could get. She will be forever debuffed if she debuts with sound setup like that and I doubt that she upgraded it in less than a week since then. If she made it then she would buy a new mic even if she had to take a loan or something.

>>8168086
You're implying as if EN1 had the best mic during debut

>>8168086
you can make a case that she actually has 2nd good mic and used this shity one in on purpose to "separate" her personas.
BUT with this>>8149451 Potential "signaling" this whole theory does not make any fucking sense.
+ she never had ASMR streams

>>8167876
>>8168025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsgHd8QOBz4

>>8168256
No one expected EN1 to have any success, they themselves have talked about it. Kiara and Mori were going to keep/get jobs, didn't think it would pay nearly enough.

>>8168256
Only Kiara had a really shit one and she tried to upgrade it as soon as possible after seeing the nubmers. Remember that they expected ID1 viewership back then.

>>8156154
All generic boring I hope the other 2 unknowns are entertaining.

>>8158056
Welcome to the rrat factory

>>8168345
Yea, like at most they were expecting current NijiEn numbers of 1-2k viewers most likely when they held the auditions.
They didn't expect that the EN market Really, really, really wanted some English speaking chubbas. No wonder they were absolute nervous wreaks on debut given the numbers.

>>8168444
>boring
I agree but maybe they were just holding back. Hopefully they're better with a bigger audience

In any case, if it's her, I'd expect her to collab with KawaiiPro in the future.

>>8168658
>they were just holding back
im going to say "C-word", anon

>>8167085
https://youtu.be/3l9wgueHIps?t=136
Kiara really like her and want to collab every week. If there's any candidate that would be on Kiaras wavelength it would be her.....but then again, Kiara says that about anybody so it could just be another coincidence.
>>8167275
>There is no way they can sanitize her as they did with Gura.
That's pretty naiive to think that

>>8168444
I disagree.

>>8168366
Hopefully nobody repeats Kiara's mistake of buying a really good mic and then balancing it with dogshit bassy gamer headphones, resulting in her voice causing physical pain to listen to

god, PLEASE let one of them be an Aussie, tired of just catching JP streams that I cant understand shit in

>>8168256
Debuting with a bad mic/audio is a HARD DEBUFF. If it really is her I hope she paid for a new mic.

>>8168884
Anon, she's been living in poverty mode for a while.

Thankfully, the mic is only bad when it comes to things that actually need quality audio.

She's not doing ASMR at first, I promise that.

>>8152099
https://twitter.com/HanaFlo_Kawaii/status/1420465820510167051
>steals your girl

>>8168794
EN1 had no support, but EN2 has been talking for a long while with EN1 on discord. They are gonna guide them.

>>8169137
OH NONONO

>>8167044
>>8166886
Is this the rrat to end all rrats

>>8169606
+this>>8167721

>>8155965
Why would you want to lose your dedicated fans?
You make connections with those people. You would want them to find you. Most of them have done it in Hololive on some level, some leaving behind hints. (even Pekora, of all people, premium shitposter McGee)

>>8148258
>watch one of her old streams for the first time
>uwu cunny voice

How can she fit Fauna's model?

>>8170291
>green Lamy sounds like blue Lamy
Where is the issue?

>>8150898
>I have been missing her like crazy. I'm a little sad I won't get her attention anymore (There's much richer people than me) but I am happy she's gone on to bigger things. Her talent deserved it.
Shit man... you had it worse...

>>8150898
Kinda unrelated but I hope she recognize you at least once

>>8166511
I don’t understand why Seru did something so stupid like that. It was so easy to draw the connection after her artist friend posted that so quickly

>>8156790
>he
https://twitter.com/ratedkatzchen/status/1427462792982917125?s=21

>>8171521
Same. It was so dumb.

>>8171581
I think her nepotism kick in, she wants her friend to gain a major big publicity as the first retweeted fanart.
Not really a big deal but still a bad manner and unprofessional.

>>8171946
She could've waited a little longer at least. Then retweet and use the art as profile picture.
Instead she did that. Really a bad choice.

>>8172025
>>8171946
If she had her artist friend wait even just 30 more minutes it would’ve been WAY less obvious. Just sloppy all around.

>>8166511
>good artist but debuff char
>mediocre singer no other talent otherwise
>more dull af than that penguinshit talentless
>orcshizo
>shitty second rate meme gurl
This gen is DOA jesus what a downgrade from holomyth

>>8172317
Some autist still would have picked up on it even if the timing was less suspicious. Besides, it could be intentional, plenty of holos have made it more obvious than that.

>>8168444
Being in Hololive not only buffs numbers, but also can buff the perceived quality of a vtuber. You might think they're boring now, but give it a month and everyone will be falling head over heels for all of them.

>>8173342
>You might think they're boring now, but give it a month and everyone will be falling head over heels for all of them.
this, I remember shitting and doomposting on the speculation in EN1 before specially on Ame and Gura, now they are one of my favorites chuubas right now

>>8148475
>>8149136
I looked into it and:

- Hana indeed used double exclamation marks all the time. She never once used triple exclamation marks though while Ceres does all the time. Double exclamation marks are sometimes used by people who speak Japanese because for whatever reason they are popular on the JOP side of the internet.
- Hana always capitalized, Ceres never does.
- While Ceres uses some emoji it's not THAT prevalent. When Hana didn't spam them in every other tweet it was because she was spamming them in every single tweet.
- Ceres has some sort of a fixation on the word "cute". She used it more in a day than Hana did in half of her previous life.
- Hana used reaction images on twitter a lot. Ceres doesn't at all aside for her L2D.

If it really is Hana then she is trying to post differently.

>>8174419
The capitalization is a pretty big inconsistency, hana really did always capitalize replies