/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

sneep

>>8124296
I want this cat to hyperactively grind against my trousers whilst I stand awkwardly in the corner of the club, wishing I were home, desperate to ignore her prurient decorum.

Attention all Vtubers! This is your new CEO speaking!
Throw away all pride. Throw away all pride and just pander. Pander to the lowest common denominator. Do karaoke if you have to. That is my advice. Sing Tenacious D, yeah, just sing Tenacious D. Just throw away your pride and sing Tenacious D.
Thank you for your attention.

>>8123937
Taking a stand? Wait, don't tell me Pikamee has become some kind of cunny crusader? Since when?
>picrel it's me feeding you the truth
I mean if what you're saying is true then I may have to agree but you're not feeding me any new ideas here but, thanks for wrapping your nice big hand around me...

Thoughts on VStars? Been seeing it around.

>>8124393
Fuck off, I blacklist everyone who plays Apex.

>>8124462
Who?

>>8123617
I was too slow

>>8124521
kek

>>8124462
Who are they?

>>8124462

>>8124462
Who are those guys?

>>8124521

Mio probably killing everyone in RDR2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9GJcSuDypw

>>8124521
Perfect

They where really cute together, think they'll collab more? Tenten kept talking over her

>>8124857
Seep should collab with more english chuubas.

Still trying to get a feel for her personality but this chuuba that was posted has a neat accent and is drawing fat tits with TGAA music playing.
https://www.twitch.tv/cottonwings

https://www.twitch.tv/splendiferachie
Check out this cutie! No idea what she is playing but I like the cute Hikki theme she has.

>>8124497
>>8124576
>>8124617
>>8124620
https://twitter.com/vstars_group

>>8125274
oh it's the discord chuuba group
don't care and it'll flop

Hey guys, are there any vtubers who play old school point and click or text based adventure games?

>>8125274
>New startup vtuber company
>Owner couldn't even get partner
>No examples of their quality
Oh this is sus as fuck

>>8125274
too new to give any opinion really.

>>8124961
>*nglos

>>8125301
Discord chuuba group? ew

>>8125372
they aren't giving l2d or paying their talents. they have to have their own model.

>>8125544
True

>>8125583
Then that's even more sus considering the only benefit a corp like that would give is advice and marketing, but the owners didn't even make it to partner, so they're going to be flying as blind as the chuubas
Unless this is literally just a twitch team they're putting together to sync schedules and raid each other

>>8125583
Also, the person who does their "VTuber Marketing Assistance" things doesn't even have Partner or a sizable amount of followers.

>>8125651
can't even give proper advice if they don't have experience, some of the owners aren't even chuubas

https://twitter.com/kanikanizawa/status/1427986649259118599

What did she mean by this

>>8124857
>Tenten kept talking over her
Eira definitely seemed more reserved but she's just as much of a retarded zoomer.
It was cute seeing that Tenten seemed genuinely happy to have her on.

>>8125768
I hope that she is saying that she is a /jp/ old fag and not one of Prince cohorts.

Who is the most oldfag chuuba?

>>8125903
its the latter. expect her to show up here with a trip once 24k is unbanned.

>>8126061
none, because if you show that are from here you are a new fag.

>>8126118
Oh fuck no, someone tell jannies to ban tripfags already.

>>8126061
Picky drew Cornelia-tan, a bot from /jp/ that would spam images, exploiting the lack off captchas at the time.

>>8126061
i have never seen a sane person that's been here for a long time
and no, insane people are not entertaining

I want to take a selfie with a chuuba!

Good morning, /wVT/! My unquenchable thirst for knowledge returns, and so I humbly ask a few questions.

1) Did you watch any corporate vtubers before finding /wVT/?
2) If so, who did you watch?
3) What did you like about them? What drew you to their content? How long did you watch them?
4) Did it take you a while to warm up to indies, or did it happen right away?
5) What drew you to indies? Can you compare it to the corporate content you enjoy(ed)?
6) Do you look for indies with content similar to Hololive/Niji?
7) If you had/have a cooperate oshi, is the content of your favorite indie in any way similar?
8) How do you compare the indie western vtuber scene to the corporate scene?
9) Are you happy, /wvt/?

These are numerous, so feel free to skip any questions you do not want to answer. Thank you!

i don't respond to chuubas sorry

It saddens me that koopa threads dont last long these days. Fucking discord...

>>8126971
Seethe, NTRoopa

>>8126971
honestly, I am starting to feel as if most troopas don't care as much as they did before.
something changed.

>>8126926
only chuubas I watched before coming here were VOMS (mainly Pikamee since I'm a filthy EOP) since I hate corpos and figured they were different. Then I got proven wrong so that went out the window. I'm kind of glad that wasn't long after /vt/ was made since I don't muck around on /trash/ and didn't really know about anybody here until I started looking around for something to fill the void.

>>8126926
1) Yeah
2) Only Holo
3) They are CUTE ANIME GIRLS WHO STREAM. I was aware of Kizuna and the like but the interaction was great.
4) Kinda since it takes A LOT of effor to chat
5) Dunno, I just wanted more EN vtubers and came here. There's more variety of them!
6) I did it before but not these days
7) Not at all! The corpo feels more professional
8) The corporate scene is more numerous and with more support but the indie has more variety and the like
9) Yeh

I have been gone for a while, what happened to Koopers?

>>8125303
Maroony recently played Harvester and Phantasmagoria 1, she will be playing 2 this weekend.
https://www.twitch.tv/maroony
She's open to play more since those games have been doing well.

>>8126926
>1) Did you watch any corporate vtubers before finding /wVT/? 2) If so, who did you watch?
Kizuna Ai, Kaguya Luna, then Korone and the rest of hororaibu. I also tune into Pikamee, but basically no other corpo is on my radar.
>3) What did you like about them? What drew you to their content? How long did you watch them?
Novelty, personality, entertaining. I liked the short-form content of Kizooter and Luna, and loved the 7FPS waifu aesthetic and LOUD ENERGY of Luna especially. I watched them for a year or so before falling off, then I got hooked on Korone and watched the rest after seeing some Korone clip I don't even remember, but it was over a year ago.
>4) Did it take you a while to warm up to indies, or did it happen right away?
Chuuba is chuuba, simple as. The appeal of entertainers in my native language far outweighs cute anime girls.
>5) What drew you to indies? Can you compare it to the corporate content you enjoy(ed)?
I wanted to become a chuuba, so I started looking at how it's done in the West. It's a lot more personal since I watch sub-100 viewers, and I don't know if most things I find funny would translate without getting to know the chuubas in their chat.
>6) Do you look for indies with content similar to Hololive/Niji?
I look for retro and weird games, so not really.
>7) If you had/have a cooperate oshi, is the content of your favorite indie in any way similar?
I don't have one (closest would be Nene), but I can't think of anyone that compares to her or Korone, Poruka, or Botan.
>8) How do you compare the indie western vtuber scene to the corporate scene?
A lot more yab, but also a lot more free.
>9) Are you happy, /wvt/?
I've never been happy and never will be.

Are you enjoying the thread, front desk?

>>8127177
A lot, I would mention it but I hate timeloops.

>>8126926
1)yes
2)holo
3) they are entertaining and easy to watch
liked their attitude
more than most indies i think.
4) koopa warmed me up to them but now i am thinking on dropping indies as i am atarting to watch more holo and niji EN
5) honestly novelty
6) now i do
7) kinda
8) one is much more centered on having fun as an individual the other is more focused on being entertainment (i think that you know which one is which).
9) in a personal level yes.

>>8126926
I'm glad you're back
>Yes, I got into vtubers through Hololive
>I checked out most of them a bit but I didn't watch any one of them regularly until Reine debuted
>I like cute dorks, I still like cute dorks, I still watch Reine
>I wasn't really interested in Japanese indies and I didn't know of any western indies until R*se debuted and /wvt/ started up
>Much wider pool of vtubers who speak a language I understand, stream at times that I can watch, and are free to make content I enjoy
>Nah
>Nina's one of my favourite indies and I guess her content is kind of similar to Reine's, but the rest of them definitely not
>I think they both have their merits, but I've definitely come to prefer indies and start ups like Tsunderia and PRISM over big corpos, with a few exceptions
>About as happy as I can be, yeah

>>8127177
A nothingburger

>>8127586
>>8127262
Which is it?

>>8127741
Both, a lot happened but it was all caused by a nothingburger

>>8126926
morning ayy!

1. Yes. I imagine there'd be few who didn't.
2. Ai-chan, Choco, HNST, HoloENs mostly. Some stray ASMRtubers.
3. Ai-chan's prerecorded stuff was easy to watch. This was before streams became the norm. Also her music is great. I listened to Choco ASMR while doing other stuff back before she got bonked for it. HNST I just really like Mary. She's a sweetheart. Of the HoloENs I liked Ina's drawing streams and Kiara's zatsudans. There was just a lot going on around then.
4. Not really. I got in with Kitanya and from there it went pretty quick. I guess it helped that her debut had a good turnout for an indie. I used to be concerned about watching low view vtubers because I was worried about leaving. This was before I became aware of how the scale for indies worked quite differently from corporates, like how 10 viewers are actually a decent amount.
5. Kitanya's energy made it easy to go down the rabbit hole and see that a lot of indies deliver pretty high quality content. I don't really compare vtubers with each other anymore though.
6. Not really. It's mostly about the streamer and their content, how much they stand out and whether they fill certain niches.
7. Not at all actually.
8. They're not terribly different. Probably because many indies took inspiration from corporates. Some indies even do the 3D model karaoke/concert type content, though personally I'd like to see skits make a comeback.
9. Hanging in there. My last promising job application got declined so demotivation is setting back in. Can't support your chuuba with no income.
How're you doing?

>>8124296
who dat?

>>8126926
>>8126926
>Did you watch any corporate vtubers before finding /wVT/?
Yes
>If so, who did you watch?
Only one seriously was Moruru of Niji, everyone else was just clips or stray streams
>What did you like about them? What drew you to their content? How long did you watch them?
Novelty, Moruru I watched because she was different than everybody else, playing retro titles and had an interesting design/mannerisms. I still didn't watch them for too long in any case.
>Did it take you a while to warm up to indies, or did it happen right away?
It happened right away because I always liked MiraPink
>What drew you to indies? Can you compare it to the corporate content you enjoy(ed)?
The ability to talk to people and unironic diversity in content.
>Do you look for indies with content similar to Hololive/Niji?
No, I don't like corporates.
>If you had/have a cooperate oshi, is the content of your favorite indie in any way similar?
Yes
>How do you compare the indie western vtuber scene to the corporate scene?
They're like any other, indies have a lot more perceived freedom but they still follow corporate trends and styles. Corporate is safe and high quality but gets boring and there's not much meaningful innovation.
>Are you happy, /wvt/?
Are you happy?

I'm not a frequent watcher but I would love to chat with you more. Though you seem pretty busy with life and whatnot.

for me its the bat

>>8126971
Is the discord even that active?

>>8126926
>Did you watch any corporate vtubers before finding /wVT/? If so, who did you watch?
I watched Holos, VOMS and Niji KR.Companies didn't exist before I watched vtubers. I watch Towa, Anya, Magnet, Korean Friend, and Roha Lee perspectively.
>What did you like about them? What drew you to their content? How long did you watch them?
A nice voice is probably why I watch them since. Other than that it's hard to pinpoint on the exact reason.
>Did it take you a while to warm up to indies, or did it happen right away?
JP indies i've always have watched, now western ones were the hardest fucking swallow to pill when you get introduced to western indies and the avatars you first get shown is Picky and Peony.
>What drew you to indies? Can you compare it to the corporate content you enjoy(ed)?
The indies I watch reminds me of simpler times when streaming was just people hanging out.
>Do you look for indies with content similar to Hololive/Niji?
No, not realy
>If you had/have a cooperate oshi, is the content of your favorite indie in any way similar?
One forces me to watch apex while the other actually plays fun games and draws.
>How do you compare the indie western vtuber scene to the corporate scene?
western indies is filled with too many 2 view vroid hoodie males. The corporate scene has a Rigger Nigger that fucked over Anya,Matuli and Gura more times than it should.
>Are you happy, /wvt/?
If anyone said yes to this they'd be lying

>>8128155
why?

Orla Crazy Taxi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfpJysXTyF4

>>8128277
because she is cute

Some scuffed Hollow Knight gameplay with Effiez
https://www.twitch.tv/effiez

>>8128325
what a cute bat

>Spookytuber drawing
https://www.twitch.tv/kabhaalvt
>hm... based Super Mario 64
https://www.twitch.tv/paperbag_ch
>Bugchamp Death Stranding
https://www.twitch.tv/calebhorusvt
>Chimera cat Death's Door
https://www.twitch.tv/emmy_the_witch
>Napping nip
https://www.twitch.tv/minyaseptember
>Book demon Minecraft
https://www.twitch.tv/kuromiyalucien
>Loud extrovert Breath of the Wild
https://www.twitch.tv/oliviamonroe
>small aussie bun is asleep but you can watch if that's what you're into
https://www.twitch.tv/alittlesugoi
>Beetuber Apex
https://www.twitch.tv/kisabtuber
>Writefag imp Resident Evil 4
https://www.twitch.tv/arthurabbottvt
>Starry schnitzel drawing
https://www.twitch.tv/yereza
>Russki RimWorld
https://www.twitch.tv/comrade_del
>Italian dog artist unfortunately collabing with malehera comic writer in Minecraft
https://www.twitch.tv/yuniiho
>That vamp, killing intent, cockatoo, zombie, Monaco
https://www.twitch.tv/letaniabelladone
https://www.twitch.tv/casualrayla
>Norwegian fluffy tail
https://www.twitch.tv/binowo
>Eyepatch cat Temtem
https://www.twitch.tv/purityvalentine
>Moneybird
https://www.twitch.tv/fuyumitoba
>Saffa panda FFXIV
https://www.twitch.tv/azuracub
>Based bear daughter and seep collab but seep is asleep
https://youtu.be/8ZeaEdXcw20
>Indian cat Genshin Impact
https://youtu.be/CDblAoqrlzc

https://www.twitch.tv/purityvalentine
eyepatch cat is playing more temtem

Seep is late

https://youtu.be/8ZeaEdXcw20
https://www.twitch.tv/eira_ch
BEAR SEEP SEEP BEAR COLAB STARTING NOW
EIRA WOOLCOT AND BEATANI CHISATO COLABBBBBBB

>>8128435
Where is the Sheep?

>>8128435
WAKE UP SEEP

>>8128433
naked dogeza when

>>8128452
sleeping

>>8128452
asleep at 6pm

>>8128435
Seep....start your strem...onigai

RIP seep

>>8128016
Koro! A mute DJ VR chuuba who came recently!
https://twitter.com/KoroVTuber
https://www.twitch.tv/koroyn
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnBDyZSm1S2UFwgzCyIbCQg

What is wiggly?
Where does he come from?
Why do I keep seeing it in indies' emotes?
Who is this mystical being and what is he hidding?

OMG GUYS SHES AWAKE

>>8128674
It is Popplio from Pokémon.
I do not know why it wiggles.

>>8126926
1. Yeah
2. Learned about vtubers as a concept from Kizuna and Siro, then got really roped in later by Korone and Fubuki
3. Cute voice/design, actually playing vidya live instead of canned stuff like the old days, watched them for several months as I fell further down the hole
4. I liked the idea of indies but I used to be averse to watching small streams in general, it took me almost a year to give them a chance
5. Got kind of tired of how restrictive and professional the corpos were, especially with how streaming permissions work, where everyone ended up playing the same games at the same time. It was nice seeing people just do whatever they want
6. No, they fit different niches and shouldn't try to chase each other's success
7. Not really besides singing and being a generally charming person
8. I like how lax the indie scene is, even though it comes with a lot of baggage I don't care for like the clique-ness or people wanting to drag politics or their personal life through things. Sure you have to sift through all the low effort 2-views but there are a lot of gems
9. Not particularly, but I don't feel that bad either.

Now it's your turn to answer them.

>>8126926
1) Yes
2) Hololive, technically NijiEN too but that was around the same time as I started branching out to indies.
3) It's a bit heretical but I prefer twitch to yt, mainly because I don't have a google account, and a lot of them are on twitch. Twitch also just feeds me indies in my suggestions automatically which is how I got drawn to them.
4) Took a while but it was more that I just wasn't looking not that I was put off by them.
5) Just was looking for content to watch.
6) Not really.
7) Ina is my oshi and my favorite western indie is Alice Sawyer, I think they do have some similarities. Soft spoken, weeb, comfy art streams.
8) Haven't been in the scene long enough to say.
9) Yes

seep….

>>8128980
>an hour

/yah/ hates us now...

>>8129118
Good, fuck them

>>8129118
We don't

>>8129118
what are you talking about this is kino
though I worry about how hard seep's gonna spaghetti drop when she realizes she overslept (and especially if she watches the VOD of this)

>>8129118
Proof? I'm not going to raid them like a fag but this is a great stream.

>>8129227
As a dad whos also in both /wvt/ it's one tribalist schizo, he tries to stir shit in the backroom as well..

>>8126971
Even Koopa occasionally showing up to pay lipservice to them can't save them, a truly sad state of affairs

bear is handling this amazingly.
but seep...

I was honestly caught off guard when I saw some other /here/ chuubas/viewers I never really see interact with Bea in her chat but I guess that's inevitable when Seep's oversleeping and they can't be on her stream

>>8127914
>9. Hanging in there. My last promising job application got declined so demotivation is setting back in. Can't support your chuuba with no income.
>How're you doing?
Good morning, anon!
I am having a similar time, actually... Very demotivating, but we can do it! Keep heart, hardworking anon. Things will get better eventually. Soon, we will both get to brag about our jobs and our insurance and no more pain!

>>8129280
Ah I see. Nothing new.
>>8129319
Bea is a genius.

>>8129118
I don't hate you. I even tried to shill Bea here a bit in March, and nobody really cared. I always thought /wvt/ as an English speaking indie thread. And Bea is an English speaking indie.

>>8129414
>Non western indie with her own general
Not going to be well received to get shilled here

>>8129118
im in both, nothing but love

>>8129463
You keep saying this and every time you get told why you're wrong.

>>8129463
There was no constant general in early March. And if /wvt/ wants to play the card where they receive someone well if they aren't in the western hemisphere. And then some people wonder why >they hate us. Well... you make your own opinion pretty damn clear.

>>8129500
>Thread revisionism again
Yawn

>>8129531
Why do you want to shill bea here, anyways?

>>8129552
>why do you want to shill your oshi
anon?

>>8129552
Are you asking me why (back in March) I thought that people who like English speaking indies could like another English speaking indie? It's not like I spammed the threads with her.

>>8129531
Frenchman please

It’s stuff like this that puts me off of some indie tubers. It feels like a subtle attempt to get more donos and I just don’t like it. Life isn’t hard only for you right now.

Eira rest in sleep...

SEEP AWAKE I REPEAT SEEP AWAKE

>>8126926
Morning alium! hope your day is going well so far!
>1) Did you watch any corporate vtubers before finding /wVT/?
I only watched Hololive prior to finding /wVT/!
>2) If so, who did you watch?
I pretty much watched whoever was on... Most of my time from like, November to February was spent with a Holopro member on one screen. Ame is my oshi though!
>3) What did you like about them? What drew you to their content? How long did you watch them?
I think it was her personality mostly, and the fact that she was the first one that I watched.
>4) Did it take you a while to warm up to indies, or did it happen right away?
Once I got into watching indies, I pretty much completely dropped Hololive, though I'm still membered to Ame!
>5) What drew you to indies? Can you compare it to the corporate content you enjoy(ed)?
It was nice to be able to talk to the streamer instead of being a stray comment that may or may not be noticed. A lot of the indies I've watched also have passion for what they stream and you can see that a lot in streamers who go for more niche content/games.
>6) Do you look for indies with content similar to Hololive/Niji?
Not necessarily, no.
>7) If you had/have a cooperate oshi, is the content of your favorite indie in any way similar?
It is not!
>8) How do you compare the indie western vtuber scene to the corporate scene?
The indie scene is full of a bunch of different circles of people; /wvt/ being one of those circles. I think something that I feel is comparable is that when you're in a community like this, you can sort of follow the story of everyone's streaming careers in the same way a lot of people would very closely watch gens in corpos interact. Watching everyone grow and friendships build as the months go is incredible, and I really think that the entertainment I get from indies is as comparable to that of corporate chuubas. I wish that everyone in this community finds their chance to incline!
>9) Are you happy, /wvt/?
I usually am, and currently am! I hope you're happy too!

>>8129602
Why are you having an aneurysm over people not liking the same vtuber as you? If people here don't like her then stop trying to force her as it's only going to make people dislike her more

The only chuubas who are not allowed here are holos, nijis, vshojos, and Artemis.
Everyone else is allowed as long as they speak English, even if they have their own threads. This is how it's always been.

>>8129623
Are you not watching? She has been on the whole time.

>>8129463
People talk about Tsunderia here all the time

>>8129668
oh also femboys.

>>8128056
>I'm not a frequent watcher but I would love to chat with you more. Though you seem pretty busy with life and whatnot.
I understand! I get that we all watch who we have the time to watch. I really love chatting with people, but I am bad at managing my time with my energy levels and health. I am slowly working on getting better, so I hope we can talk more when I am.

>>8128725
>Now it's your turn to answer them.
Aha, I rarely get asked to answer my own questions. They will not be very extensive, in any case, since I did not watch many vtubers before I started. The only Japanese vtuber I watched was Oga Saki and the only western was Ina. I really liked Saki's energy! Even if I could not understand her. And Ina I watched because I have always enjoyed art streams, and her gesture drawing streams were incredibly motivating.

It took me while to really watch vtubers because the first few Holo clips I was down put me off pretty firmly... I think it was a Korone clip of her acting really weird, and I could not understand the appeal, which killed my interest in Hololive pretty early on. I think my first real indies were Kongou and Corpse, who remain my favorites to this day. I do hope I can find someone similar to Saki eventually. I like energetic vtubers with a focus on zatsudans, but I also really enjoy acting/in character and skilled gameplay, so my favorites tend to revolve around that.

And am I happy? Hm... I am magnitudes happier than I was 7 months ago. So I will say yes, even though I have a long way to go. Thank you for asking, sweet anon.

>>8129653
You are completely and totally missing my point and the post I originally replied to. I said I have no problems with /wvt/. I never spammed her here. What is the problem, seriously? I don't care if you like the same chuuba as me or not.

>>8129668
There are others who get schizos every time you post them. Mostly twitch streamers who transitioned to vtuber content

>that wising

>>8129613
I think it's just bad communication. Like, there are several things they are trying to say there and one of them is good and actionable
>Don't talk about how you financially support my competitors
And the other is probably sincere but comes off as emotional manipulation
>I need more money and your telling me you are spending it on other people really bothers me. I need a second source of income where I want to have this one exclusively

Like, I get it, mood. But there's clearly a more skillful way of saying this, and you needing a job is irrelevant. Communication is hard but when it's your job this shit damages your brand.

https://www.twitch.tv/eira_ch
she's trying her best...

>>8129761
>actually answered
You're alright, ayylien. Glad you're feeling happier and I hope things keep going well for you.
It's interesting how a lot of vtubers got into it without being big on vtubers themselves. The indie scene used to strike me as something by weebs, for weebs, in a way.

>>8129285
One day it will bounce back! Even if i have to make all the threads myself!

>>8126971
Africat threads are a graveyard too. It's nice that the chuubas themselves are at least doing well, but dead threads are still demotivating.
I blame the schizos who, by constantly crying about discords, somehow make the threads less pleasant than the discords they keep complaining about.

>>8130309
hello /asp/cord how's the backbiting?

>>8130309
>I blame the schizos who, by constantly crying about discords, somehow make the threads less pleasant than the discords they keep complaining about.
you get used to it

>>8130398
See what I mean?

>>8130144
>It's interesting how a lot of vtubers got into it without being big on vtubers themselves.
Well, my draw to vtubing was from the streaming perspective, since I had watched streamers long before I knew about vtubers. I feel like there is a weird kind of Venn diagram, where there are people who only got into streams through vtubers, people who were originally into streamers but discovered vtubers later on, and those who vaguely knew of one but only had experience with the other. As someone who used twitch for years, I was really confused when I saw that most /wvt/ people did not use twitch and had never watched normal streamers before. Especially since PNG type streamers have been around since at least 2015, from my memory.

>>8130562
Facerig streamers had been around since 2014 for furrows and weebs. I used to stream with a shitty megumin avatar because I didn't want to get a haircut to be a facecam streamer

>>8130562
Most of /wvt/ are (were?) holofags that got kicked out of /jp/ and formed an island on [REDACTED]
which is why most of them had never given twitch a chance

>>8130661
Man I remember when facerig was first making waves on 4chan back in '13 or '14 and everyone was saying it would revolutionize streaming and it's still weird that time actually came.

>>8130752
I remember seeing hololive first start to take off and everyone said it would be used to recycle hag former idols who got too old or out of favor to keep doing idol shit
That one was way off, people are becoming vtubers instead of idols

>>8130932
I keep wondering if the market will burst and just how saturated it can get with vtubers joining everyday

>>8131126
How oversaturated the 3D streaming market is?

>>8131126
It won't burst until the streaming bubble pops
The worst that can happen is twitch or YouTube fans move onto something else and they all adapt and shift over to that, but there's always room for whatever content just with an anime avatar

>>8131170
>>8131126
it's already oversaturated

>>8131170
Very, but that isn't a niche the way that 2D anime girls are. They are a niche within a niche. With 3D streaming, you have a variety of content outside of games. 2D pretty much only has games, media share, ASMR, maybe music. Being tied to an anime avatar is limiting in a way that alienates normie stream viewers.

>>8129761
I've been trying to watch the streams more but times are sporadic and obviously there's the issue of watching others. But I really enjoy the time I've spent watching otherwise.

>>8131374
The most popular thing on twitch the last year has been streamers roleplaying normal lives in grand theft auto
Its fine

Didn't wanted to interrupt the collab posting but
I
MOST
LINK
https://www.twitch.tv/lumituber

>>8131514
i... most link...?

>>8131560
I
MOST
LINK
LUMI

>>8128325
she would look even cuter with pretty nails

>cunny house

It's fucking africat hours

Applecat zatsudan
https://www.twitch.tv/kitanyaaaa
Cyber cat Little Nightmares 2
https://www.twitch.tv/nekoreen
Lion queen Apex
https://youtu.be/cgY_Gey4T1k
Drunk angel Rust
https://youtu.be/qdF_06Y40-Q

>>8126926
sorry in advanced, most of these are jp and not western.
1) Yes, I watched both Holo and Niji
2) Mostly Subaru, Nene, and Emma August. Sometimes Sora and Kirame
3) I like zatsudan/chatting streams, helps me with my jp reps, and they usually have funny things to say. Mostly character design draws me in at first, but what makes me stay is personality and entertainment value. Subaru was the first I started watching, it's been almost 2 years now.
4) It took me a while to start watching indies, only because it was relatively hard to discover them as most game collabs (how I was introduced to Hololive) and clips (how I discovered Emma/Niji) focus largely on corporate chuubas
5) Indie draw for me was largely chat interaction and less restrictive rules on community engagement. Former was very similar to early holo member only streams, latter was just something that would have been nice.
6) Not in particular, but familiar content would help me personally appreciate indies for who they are
7) My corporate oshi now is Aoi from Prism, and my favorite indie is probably Uni Shirahara. The content is very similar, JP/EN bilingual, amazing singing, and nice zatsudan.
8) Western indies are a mixed bag imho. Kana, Reiny (Hi Reiny, I know you lurk sometimes), Shizukou are all pretty fun and high quality. With corporate (even small corpo like Prism/Tsunderia/PC/Kawaii) you can expect a certain baseline of quality, but with indies it's up to you to filter on your own.
9) Not particularly, but also not particularly not happy either. I sort of just go through the motions on a daily basis wondering what I'm going to do with myself when, at whatever point, my oshi graduates

Saruei is live playing Outlast with a heart rate monitor!

https://www.twitch.tv/saruei

She's genuinely terrible with horror games, so this will be fucking hilarious.

>>8124296
i'm once again shilling myself https://twitter.com/MakigaiM

>>8133137
>it's another nigga in a yellow hoodie
i'll give you a watch anyways...

>>8133137
i have put the wrong link

>>8133188
it's not a hoodie it's a coat for the rain, snails go under the rain

>>8133137
who

>>8133137
You should probably put out something, even if it's prerecorded stuff first

>>8133137
no voice=no follow=no watch

>>8133137
did megbert tell you to post here

>>8133137
why do you do this?

Why does everyone have a Japanese name? Is it to appeal to Japan or what.

>>8133770
Weeb hobby for weeb people

>>8133770
name 5

>>8133727
i have no frens...

>>8133770
some are weebs, others are just trying to do what has worked for others

>>8133849
vocaroo BITCH

>>8124296
>>8128016
>>8128650
>>8124382
This is Arsia btw, a male mexican scammer. Just know what you're getting into
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/text/asria/

>>8133770
based retardposter

my birthday is soon! is there anything you'd like to see during my birthday stream?
im planning on playing outlast but im open to other ideas!

https://twitter.com/Ladybug_Beri

>>8133849
that isnt an excuse to be doing these posts without any content to show

>>8133913
happy early birthday !

>>8133895
Please please PLEASE
Tell me that it's not actually him.

>>8134077
thank you so much!!

>>8133913
happy birthday! I've never watched you before but I'll hopefully catch your streams

>>8133913
Will you do some singing too?
Also, check out Koragi 1000 subs celebration for some ideas.
For special streams you should try something new and exciting.

>>8134080
You know about this?

>>8134206
thank you! i hope you enjoy if you do stop by!

>>8134212
maybe!! i dont have lots of confidence in people seeing my karaoke as entertaining but ill think about it LOL
ill check it out, thank you for the recommendation!

>>8134212
nvm the vod might be gone LOL uhh
ill try thinking out of the box anyways!

>>8134080
I hate this timeloop and I hate Latin America so much.

>>8134080
>>8134284
I sadly found out looking for videos of Koro on yt. One of the drama channels put both his past and current names. Also There's clips of Asria using the same model he uses now on Koroyn channel.
He scammed the hispanic audience and is now going for the EN one

>>8130309
If discord cross-posters aren't fucking obnoxious it doesn't hurt the thread. I'm in 2 generals with several cross-posters and it's almost never an issue. You discord autists are the cause of your own problems

>>8133811

I’ll name 10.
>Fumiko Hoshi
>Nezumi Nemurin
>Ushio Ebi
>Kururin
>Akumi Oni
>Kani Kanizawa
>Chisu Ai
>Tsubaki
>Pan(thebread)
>Saiko

And that’s just me skimming “vtuber” on twitter. I just never see these people tweet in Japanese so it just feels weird that they chose a Japanese name without even .. using the actual language outside of “ara ara”. No malicious intent with my post but I just want to understand the thought process.

>>8134284
Of fucking course I know, I was still a full lurked with no YT or Twtich account back when I learned about the drama and I hate that Sympathy-bait scammer guts.
I expected Koro being a man but if it's THAT MAN I will have to drop it (which would be a shame because I enjoyed Koro streams).

>>8134559
Hololive and Niji do it so they must also do it
like most things

>>8134489
IT NEVER ENDS
IT
NEVER
ENDS

I CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS FUCKING TIME LOOPS THAT AMERICA LATINA FUCK

>>8133770
Because i'm a weeb and i like the name

>>8126926
I hope you are having a great day.

>>8134559
>delivered on the name 5 meme
based
anyhow, it is a multitude of reasons. wanting to pander to a weeaboo audience, they themselves being weeaboo or on a more positive side, western otaku. maybe they just like the name, that falls into "being a weeb" category
but being western and using a western name is better in my opinion

>>8134514
That's not even what I'm talking about.
Imagine a general with an autist constantly namedropping people from discords or seething about the discords themselves completely unprompted with no relation to anything else going on in the threads. Does that sound like fun? That's what killed the africat threads. I asked around. People left because of this.

Thread is nice and active today, I enjoy

>>8134662

For some reason, this makes me want to do the opposite of what hololive/niji is doing. No more minecraft.

>>8133913
Play Super Bomberman R online with us or Power Bomberman.

Or you can play Sonic Robo Blast 2 Kart with us or even Risk of Rain 2 or Deep Rock Galactic with us.

>>8134915
enjoy these fucking nuts in your mouth buddy

>>8134818

That’s my thought process too. I’ve been piecing together my own vtuber but every time I want to change my name to something in Japanese, it just feels uncomfortable but that’s mainly because my understanding of the language is at a 3rd grade level. I’m sticking to my guns and not doing what’s popular.

>>8134662
Niji just released a wave of English names which is funny because they can't pronounce any of them. They all have L's

>>8135073
ohh! sonic kart looks fun!
ill try and add a party game with viewers to the list of things to do, thank you!

>>8135148
hell yeah! good luck, anon.

>>8135267
Thanks! Playing with viewers is fun when you can get them to join in.

>>8135655
yeah definitely! hopefully ill have enough viewers interested LOL

>get home from work
>too tired to do pushups much less stream
i just wanna die.

New Moe Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaD49ycwrGQ
3 Signs You're in a Toxic Relationship

Alice drawing sketch requests from chat today!
https://www.twitch.tv/alicesawyer

>>8136073
Caleb...

>>8136570
anonchama...

>>8136646
What?

>>8133854
>what was worked for others

For who? almost every top vtuber even down to the hundreds is using a username, even the ones who weren't massively famous beforehand. Just going through people Live and at the top now, out of 60 there's maybe 2 people with Japanese names

>>8134913
That's exactly the kind of thing I was talking about though, improper tard-wrangling. If you make sure the discord-fags know they don't belong there it's easier to shut them down when they sperg out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I4TJpMg4_A

I don't know who she is, but here's her human edit

>>8137827
monster, it doesn't matter to you, does it? there's nothing sacred, even strangers.

>>8137827
Doxxbraps...

>>8134489
>>8134727
What exactly did he do?

>>8138118
Is it really that hard to search the name in archives for a spoon-feeding post?

>>8126926
>1) Did you watch any corporate vtubers before finding /wVT/?
I watched a mainly HoloJP and one or two Niji and a few Japanese indies but HoloEN really took up most of my time afterwars
>2) If so, who did you watch?
Kiara the most
>3) What did you like about them? What drew you to their content? How long did you watch them?
I really like Kiara's energy and resilience, what really drew me was her cool lore intro on debut and early on in HoloEN's first few months I watched every stream but hers were the ones I enjoyed the most seeing the "sufferkino" in minecraft watching her slowly improve and get better at the game was an early highlight since her energy with every small achievement was eggciting
>4) Did it take you a while to warm up to indies, or did it happen right away?
I was already watching indies before HoloEN, I was a /Virtual Youtuber/ thread reader
>5) What drew you to indies? Can you compare it to the corporate content you enjoy(ed)?
I like the variety indies have coupled with the freedom for corotate control though corporate control isn't inherently bad given the backing it can give
>6) Do you look for indies with content similar to Hololive/Niji?
In terms of games I look for the ones I love
>7) If you had/have a cooperate oshi, is the content of your favorite indie in any way similar?
I can't really say I have a favorite indie, all of them are unique in their own regard doing their own thing and I wish them the best!
>8) How do you compare the indie western vtuber scene to the corporate scene?
The scene is a lot more disorganized but the chaos can lead to more creativity
>9) Are you happy, /wvt/?
I am now that I can relax!

>>8138118
Here's a Koroyn QRD
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/6312898/#6340355
https://twitter.com/jive7391/status/1317346245766250496
https://streamable.com/1m3vwy
Reminder not to support scam artists

>>8138140
If you don't want to have a conversation, you don't need to reply at all.

>>8126926
Good afternoon, Knowledge Seeker Ayy. Today has been, by all technical definition, a day, so late response.
1) Yes, clips of HoloEN shortly after their debut got me started on vtubers.
2) Whatever I could catch of EN, Gen5, Fubuki, or any dabbling in Eigo streams, in addition to clips of all shapes and sizes.
3) Cute anime girls being cute, honestly. Mostly, it was like watching a slice-of-life anime, but in realtime. A notable exception was catching part 1 of Botan's "Baba Is You" playthrough, where I was just raw impressed by her ability to pick up on linguistics differences between JP and EN and solve puzzles based around that kind of word magic.
4) I came along the Koopa bus, so not that long. Took quite a while to actively make Youtube and Twitter accounts to track them properly, and longer yet still to start chatting.
5) Following Kwap, it really boiled down to actual ability to interact. For large corpos, it's a complete crapshoot if anything other than emote spam gets noticed, and with smaller indies, chat moves slow enough that individual messages are much more frequently read out.
6) Not really. Most streamers tend towards gaming, drawing, and singing, with dabbling into camera-based streams. Art creation, be it picture or music, is enjoyable, games are fun, singing is almost always a treat.
7) The closest I had to an oshi in the corporate world was probably Ina. The "do your reps" mindset resonates strongly with me. Not all of my favorite indies do art streams, however, so it's not a deal breaker one way or the other.
8) Indie feels much more wild-west, in a multitude of fashions. You can fly closer to the TOS of the platforms, get wilder with song and game choice, build things on camera. There's more room for experimentation without fear of yabbing too hard.
9) In general, I'm content. Today, I'm not feeling it, at all. Work is driving me insane so I'm going to miss almost everything I wanted to watch today, the rest of the day is looming ahead of me, it's still horrible outside... I'm just not having a good time. Tomorrow will probably be better, and it always turns around eventually.

>>8133913
>>8134116
why don't you selfpost in the backyardigan too?

>>8138194
this looks retarded.
>no THIS is the reason spics look bad
cmon man.
also
>implying a mute vtuber was ever a big deal
everyone knows mute vtubers are beta male faggots who are naturally drawn to school girl drama.

https://www.twitch.tv/skylerreach
sword girl's on with the pokemon direct and then more dark souls afterwards

Viking girl who still can't much use twitter to talk to others and still use youtube to do more predebut streams is playing Guilty Gear today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfuAltT4M5U

>>8138348
There are enough chuubas there

>>8138348
I will bully her if she shows up there to selfpost

>>8138463
>Scamming people for "medicine" and "surgery" donations isn't a big deal

>>8138656
its not a big deal when its painfully obvious and dumb.

>>8138463
>this looks retarded
did you look in the mirror?
Also didn't even bother reading the evidence, it takes about 10 minutes to go thru

>>8133895
what's the tl;dr connections besides the avatar? Because that model is a Booth model publicly available to anyone with like 40 bucks.

>>8138656
donations can't be scams because you aren't buying anything

>>8138775
retard

>>8138790
cope

>>8138508
>no armpit hair
lolishit.

>>8138775
because retards really believe the only way to scam someone involves purchasing goods that arent delivered

>>8138775
>>8138725
Abusing people trust and lying is a shitty thing to do don't you think? All that money he took could have gone to people with cancer.

>>8138838
dilate

>>8138859
Can't believe Tiger is into lolis then

>>8138881
Why would you spend money on that? You have no idea if you like whoever has cancer or not.

>>8138910
W-W-W-W-WAIT TIGER WATCHES?!!? I HAVE TO LIKE HER NOW!

>>8138881
Sure it is, but we're talking a mute vtuber bro not someone pretending to be a doctor.

>>8138760
Asria/Kronos/Koroyn is too stupid to delete his channels so he has the same models and content that connect them. Just check it out yourself and read the QRD if you really want to know
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsT4icnLhKFaymQvnxMaZsA/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0
https://www.youtube.com/c/KoroVT/videos
He faked a disability and keeping fundraiser money, anyone that chooses to keep support is a retard or part of his clique

>>8130309
It happened to /yah/

>>8138881
maybe then. might just be me but if i make donations i don't expect anything of it

>>8139015
its just you. you're the retard.

>>8138194
>>8138760
Here's another link tying all the identities together
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/lrznge/a_deerj_dj_vtuber/

It's ok to be contrarian, this is 4chan after all but don't dismiss evidence when trying to shitpost

>>8139044
>donates to a literal faceless person who makes a baseless claim
>n-no you're the retard
k

>>8126926
I never watched corpos so I can't answer basically any of these
I'm doing good though

>>8139044
i know. i donate sometimes because i like the person and want to support them, not because i see a begging dramafag that i probably never even watched because i don't care about such people

>>8126926

1) Did you watch any corporate vtubers before finding /wVT/?
>Yeah, I got interested in hololive through clippers. Watched a lot more translated clips than I did official streams.
2) If so, who did you watch?
>HololiveJP: Korone, Nene
>HololiveEN: Ina, Kiara
3) What did you like about them? What drew you to their content? How long did you watch them?
>I really liked how Koro and Nene would express themselves with these really basic and ugly mspaint stuff. Like, they had this whole world of things they would whip up and it wasn't polished at all.
4) Did it take you a while to warm up to indies, or did it happen right away?
>I started to want to be a vtuber. It clicked how I could be a male presenting vtuber and it could be a really top tier high skill hobby. So... I had previously seen indies and didn't think much of them. Suddenly they were my role models. It was crazy how my perceptions shifted so intensely.
5) What drew you to indies? Can you compare it to the corporate content you enjoy(ed)?
>I guess the first vtuber who I started watching who was really indie was Temmie. Through her I started watching Pikamee, who, now I wouldn't necessarily call her indie anymore. With Temmie, I never got the impression she was programming and producing content that she just wanted to do but with Hololive I get the impression they chase trends hard, maybe because the artists don't feel compelled to do anything in particular. You can tell when someone is making inspired content and when they're just working hours. It occurs to me that I like vtubers with interesting voices, Pikamee definitely grabbed me with her voice.
6) Do you look for indies with content similar to Hololive/Niji?
>No, but I'm not really sure what that means anymore. I watched a Shiki stream the other day where she was reading weekly horoscopes, which I've never seen before. I enjoyed it despite knowing little about it.
7) If you had/have a cooperate oshi, is the content of your favorite indie in any way similar?
>I mentioned before that I like vtubers who make their own art and assets. Now, maybe Koro and Nene don't make their own stuff and I have been fooled. Self-reliance is indie, right?
8) How do you compare the indie western vtuber scene to the corporate scene?
>I see all vtubers are business-people. I just assume everyone wants to do it full time. I absolutely dislike if an indie is talking politics, religion, culture war shit because I see it as antithetical to good business practices. This is obviously far more common the "more" indie you are lol, the smaller the artist, the more likely they don't have a filter.
9) Are you happy, /wvt/?
>Yeah, I am. Life isn't perfect at all but I feel like the things I am doing are leading to a better tomorrow consistently. It's liberating.

>>8139357
Whoops, I missed something typing in the small window. I think Temmie just does whatever she wants rather.
I know that full time vtubin isn't realistic for everyone, as your expectations and financial responsibilities vary wildly. But even a hobbyist... this is a hobby that brings you adjacent to some real fuckin weirdos and I strongly believe you shouldn't be talking about strange things online unless that is what you are trying to DO.

>>8139015
I make donations because I expect to help PEOPLE THAT NEED IT in exchange of nothing, not to give the money to some scumbag scam artist who clearly doesn't need it in exchange for nothing.

>>8139573
>who needs it
then donate to an actual charity you retard.
streamers are not desperate for cash, they're faggots who have the comfort to sit at a computer playing video games all day/

did shimada provide proof the donations went to charity

>>8130309
It's pretty clear what the actual reason is; viewers want to be closer to the chuubas. It's the same thing with this thread losing posters to the back room, it's the same thing with so many viewers becoming chuubas themselves. People just can't be satisfied with simply watching streams and chatting anymore, they crave constant interaction and acknowledgement.

>>8139573
if the "scammer" is making content that i like then they deserve the money even if they spend it all on drugs. you only have yourself to blame if you read some sob stories and decide to dump all your money on them

>>8139849
A paper trail is too dangerous to leave for a CIA astronaut. Just trust her.

https://www.twitch.tv/lonestarcolt
He got Koopa and Kongou

>>8139920
>It's the same thing with this thread losing posters to the back room
Do you people just not have two tabs open? Why do you think threads can "lose people" to other threads? Are you all really this retarded?

>>8139921
>coping this hard after donating to a scammer
just admit you're salty

>>8139938
she took the money and ran

>>8140081
I am not only retarded but, also gay.

>>8140127
Post boypussy or gtfo

>>8139127
>reddit

>>8140235
>/co/cklover

>>8140081
>Do you people just not have two tabs open?
no, because of my ram

>>8140081
I left that place out of choice and I never want to go back, no matter how dead things get here. Those threads took exactly the direction I knew they would and I have no interest in them.

>ywn be sandwiched between two lumis

Any chuubas that would use gun oil for perfume?

>>8139920
This could be fixed with a machine that allows you to feel, smell and taste your oshi! The next level of chuuba interaction!

>>8140760
Purin!

>>8140636
Life is unfair

>>8140235
Where else do you want that anon to pull evidence from?

>>8140235
>guys its posted on reddit its automatically bad!

>>8140299
Better than going on fucking reddit lmao

>>8140865
Yes

https://www.twitch.tv/draxecutionerch
Going live with Digital Devil Saga!
I don't have anything cool to say.

>>8140840
I want anon to not be a fucking faggot

>>8140089
but i never did that. the few streamers i liked enough to donate to actually always say that there is no need to do so and i have never seen them beg for anything. they have not even had those silly "subathons" that seem to be pretty popular

>>8140958
t. faggot

>>8133099
if you guys aren't watching this, you're missing out. she's getting scared in french

>>8140636
>>8140821
Super unfair!

>>8141126
oh lord....

>>8140081
Honestly as someone new to /wvt/ I don't get the point of the /trash/ thread and I don't think I'll ever go there. I looked at it briefly, and it was about what I expected to find on /trash/

Is this just some vrchatfag type thing where they needed their own thread because they were so obnoxious or something and now they keep bringing up here to try and lure newfags in or something?

>>8141723
It was for porn. That's it.

>>8141723
>Trusting the trolls that keep rambling on how shit the thread is.

>>8141723
holy newfag
lurk more

>>8141723
It's where the threads started since non-JP vtubers weren't allowed on any boards. After /vt/ was made they just kind of didn't want to leave their new home.
>>8141813
Newfriends are new viewers.

>>8141723
It's for porn and the chuubas feel safer posting themselves there

>>8141887
There's barely even any porn posted there and they're going through a selfpost-ban arc now.
It's just for menheraposting.

>>8141949
newfag

>>8141813
It just further proves the point that the two threads don't share all of their posters like some people keep insisting

>>8142009
>takes one newfag as example
anonchama...

>>8142009
They have like 80% of posters but yeah there is still around 20% who are not there.

>>8142046
We get newfags in these threads all the time

the mods should add newfag to the wordfilter.

>>8142175
seethe

>>8142175
Newchama

>>8142175
Hi newfriend!

>>8141813
>>8141984
>>8142046
>>8142112
>>8142228
Hello schizo-kun. ARE YOU ENJOYING THE THREAD?

>>8133137
>Snail Loli
You can never fill her shoes. You're not good enough and you never will be. Just graduate irl

>>8142261 (you)

>>8142261

>>8142306
i forgive you because you posted tmsk
watch your back

>>8142175
Newfag!

>>8142454
i wish. now only the posters that use that word are

here it is

that feeling again

after every saruei stream

>>8143341
You are not in control.

thread is being extra shitty today what's going on?

>>8143355
do i want to be in control?

probably not

>>8143413
Seep collab with Beatani made the Frenchman remember /wvt/ existed and went on a shitposting spree that is still raging right now

>>8141887
They shouldn't feel safer posting themselves there since Krimbo has made it very clear he goes there (or used to, he's in hiatus for a while) and makes it obvious who else goes there by association.

>>8143485
i like this rrat

>>8143413
Is it? Apart from the newfag-guy I'm not noticing much different.

>>8143462
You love your oshi.
But your oshi doesn't love you.
They barely even know you exist.
You are nothing, just eyes facing a screen.