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81044635 No.81044635 [Reply] [Original]

Idol bros what do we do?!

>> No.81044806

>>81044635
Just sell the corpo to Brave

>> No.81044869

>>81044806
I thought Brave was already in the process of buying it?

>> No.81044878

>>81044806
Please.

>> No.81044888

What did Aviel do this time?

>> No.81045012

>>81044635
I'm not reading that whole doc. QRD?

>> No.81045090

>>81045012
It is hard to part a Jew from his money

>> No.81045114

>>81044635
This is like the 3rd jew happening

>> No.81045162

>>81045012
she says idol hasnt paid her for stuff she did in june and that there other freelancers in the same situation.
also related to it >>79843157

>> No.81045174

>>81045012
Same thing that happens to everyone who works with Idol: They won't pay you until you raise a stink about it and hope you just go away instead.

>> No.81045177

>>81044635
>How to make sure you never get hired again by any company
Do zoomtards really?

>> No.81045269

>>81045177
No point in getting hired if they won't pay you.

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>>81045269
Young people really complain about the tiniest things.

>> No.81045431

>>81044888
More like what he didn't do.
Which is pay the people he hired.
Seems like normal for idol corp that they dont pay people.

>> No.81045483

>>81045012
109 countries.

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>>81045414

>> No.81045528

>>81045162
>>81045174
So how many times has this happened now?

>> No.81045533

>>81045431
wtf he didnt pay? kek

>> No.81045598

>>81044635
is this the third time this exact same shit happened
why do they refuse to pay people until they go public

>> No.81045617

>>81045528
Confirmed:
>2 Vtubers in Idol Corp
>Multiple artists
>A bunch of clippers
And now OP too

>> No.81045627

>>81044635
tldr? I ain't reading all that

>> No.81045667

>>81044635
>Complains about "late" payments.
>No mention of actual payment terms in the contract.
What are the chances she didn't read, and the contract has something something like "end of next full month"? If payment terms are not specified she is just giving Idol a 0% loan and it would be foolish of them not to take it.

>> No.81045673

>>81045528
At least five people have publicly called them out. The first two deleted their tweets after getting paid. There's likely many more who are afraid or just don't even try to get their money.

>> No.81045745

Is it so surprising that the corpo that made a lot of unsustainable promises about how much "free" stuff they'd give their talents didn't actually have enough money to keep it up?
I like a few of the talents, but it's clearly a poorly run org and I hope Brave swallows them up and cleans out the trash.

>> No.81045814

>>81045667
I'm sure that would be great PR for idol

>> No.81045852

>>81045617
They fucked over their own members? How'd that happen and why don't people say anything about it?

>> No.81045881

>>81044635
yeah the jew is fucking broke and sustaining his corpo on a ton of "I'll pay you later" DMs

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>>81045667
End of month huh?

>> No.81045964

>>81045162
Just last month? That's not exactly unusual when dealing with companies. I used to work for a major logistics company and they had a policy to push all bill payments back 3 months just to help their cashflow.

>> No.81046139

>>81045964
scammers gonna scam yeah

>> No.81046178

uh oh the defense force is already here

>> No.81046231

>>81046178
yeah trying to normalize not getting paid for your work lol

>> No.81046302

>>81046231
Wait for it, some anon will come telling you that's not a real job.

>> No.81046306
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81046306

>Work for jews
>Surprised that they got scammed

>> No.81046423

>>81045891
Wonder what contract says that you wont get paid for 8 months (and counting)

>> No.81046502

Taking it to Twitter when your payment is two weeks late is a sure way to never get hired again by anyone who doesn't want to deal with your retarded ass

>> No.81046645

>>81046502
only scammers will avoid her, and that's a good thing.

>> No.81046681

Surprised the jannies on the payroll haven't deleted this thread already. Oh wait did he run out of money to pay them too?

>> No.81046726

You can't squeeze blood out of a stone, I wouldn't be surprised if Idol is doing badly in terms of finances considering what they are paying for according to this thread lmao.

>> No.81046810

>>81046681
Kek hahaha

>> No.81046828

>>81046726
They also had 3 talents cut and run without fulfilling a lot of obligations and they had to refund a shitload of donothon money.

>> No.81047077

>>81044635
I guess this is why Aviel tried to build as much goodwill as possible, they're a company run like shit with funds coming from US "charities" and Israeli government. Guess the "war" fucked all that

>> No.81047126

>>81046828
they left because they weren't being paid anon. pochi never saw ANY of her donothon money while idol promises "talents get 100% of donothon money" when in reality they get 0%

>> No.81047796

>>81047126
pochi is super menhera and pretty stupid. I think she didn't understand a bank issue involving a large wire transfer and thought she was getting ripped off.
She has a void for a personality, but I want to see her chubby thighs some more.

>> No.81047803

>>81047126
pochi never saw the money (until after she left) because she wasnt working on her goals. want the money? do the work

>> No.81047855

>>81047796
>you are allowed to get away with never paying menheras

>> No.81047877

do these small corpo vtubers ever even deliver 75% of their goals?

>> No.81048222
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>>81044635
Idol corp is ran by a jew who never pays anybody unless he is threatened by a lawsuit. He never ships donothon merch, or pays clippers and freelancers.

>> No.81048468

>>81045012
Money talks again. Jewcorp can't pay for shit, people are sniffing and now doubting what happened to people like Pochi , maybe it was one sided after all and Pochi just shut up due to pressure

>> No.81048807

>>81047803
that's not how it works. you get paid first then you work on the goals. and regardless of her working on the goals or not, idol has to pay her. the promise is made to the viewers by idol and they are responsible for both delivering the goals and paying its talent. They needed to wrangle Pochi if she wasn't working but withholding pay is not only retarded it was also illegal. Pochi is too stupid and let them off the hook too easily.

>> No.81048818

>>81048468
The ones that are still in believe that he will pay them thats why they're keeping quiet
Fucking retards lol

>> No.81048891

>>81044635
>clippers not paid
>producers not paid
>Rin had to hire a lawyer to deal with Jew boy
but don't worry, Legal Mindset is checking Idol's contracts.

>> No.81048960

>>81048891
I hadn't heard about Rin.
Is that why there's been endless "construction" at her castle?

>> No.81049046

is Coni leaving next?
how fucking stupid for Punkalopi and Lisa feel for signing onto such an obvious blakc corpo?

>> No.81049753

>>81049046
lopi is fine because she could quit tomorrow and be better off going back to lopi.

lisa fucked herself like an idiot and deserved to be laughed at.

>> No.81049933

>>81049753
>lisa fucked herself like an idiot and deserved to be laughed at.
Rude.

>> No.81050101

>>81049753
Lisa is retarded. She picks horrible people to surround herself with, of the three agencies she's applied to (Tsunderia, Nijisanji, Idol), all 3 have been black, and she keeps forgiving and keeping people who want to hurt her (ie her mother) and push away people who want to support her. I could give more detailed information about some of her retarded choices.
Lisa genuinely makes some of the worst decisions ever.

>> No.81050172

>>81050101
>Nijisanji
What the fuck, Lisa applied to Niji? When?

>> No.81050216

>>81044635
they could've saved this company by actually having male vtubers

>> No.81050224

>>81049933
some vtubers are just unlucky. I find it heartbreaking that both Lisa, Roca and Coni ended up in the same place after their first corpos let them down, only to discover their new corpo was not the safe haven they were promised.

>> No.81050330

>>81045162
>a whole month

>> No.81050353

>>81048960
Yeah, she "talked" a bit about it in a recent stream about two weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3aB_CQMBEo

>> No.81050443

>>81048960
Her mom's house being renovated is real. She talked about it in a member's stream ages ago and seemed really concerned with how much it would kill her streaming schedule. This new legal issue she's been hinting at has to be relatively new.

>> No.81050465

>>81048468
>>81047803
>>81047796
POCHI DID NOTHING WRONG

>> No.81050549

>>81050172
Middle of 2023. She didn't explicitly say it but she implied the agency she turned down after applying for made her feel sus. This was at the tailend of the Niji meltdown but months after it should have been obvious to not even apply. You could also see her League play records (the Zoomer equivalent of golf meetings) and see her playing with Nijisanji talents just before she said this.

>> No.81050574

>>81044635
WTF is happening. Small corpos were really strong last year and now all of a sudden, they collapsed 1 by 1?

>> No.81050622

>>81044635
How the fuck did Idol run out of money, they were always gloating about their infinite money and resources

>> No.81050636

>>81050465
I'm starting to believe it, she's under NDA but i wish the others babble, let's see if Rin has more of a chance to push Idol

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81050648

>>81050574

>> No.81050665

>>81044635
qrd?
https://streamable.com/tko6w9

>> No.81050702

>>81050622
Resources are being diverted to kill Palestinian children.

>> No.81050767

>>81050622
He was getting funds from the Israeli government that got cut off once the war started

>> No.81050847

>>81050648
>going from 1 corpo that doesn't pay to another corpo that doesnt pay
Yuri sends her regards

>> No.81050865

>>81050636
Despite her usual autism, Rin is the one I'd bet money on for taking a bite out of Idol if Aviel keeps fucking around.

>> No.81050926

>>81050865
Well her family is loaded and she can actually afford lawyers

>> No.81050933
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81050933

Jewman is selling Idol to brave and some Idol members are already jumping ship.Some even applied for Vshojo on their rm accounts.

>> No.81050970

>>81050847
Yuri shouldn't have stolen money. To this day, Phase is the only agency besides Hololive with only 1 graduation/termination within 3 years.

>> No.81051032

>>81050933
>ship.Some even applied for Vshojo on their rm accounts.
Which ones?

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No wonder one of their talents went on a hiatus due to stress. Only 2 left.
https://x.com/JunaUnagi/status/1813952001765413047

>> No.81051071

>>81050970
Didn't fishman only want Lumi anyways but Yuri was a package deal?

>> No.81051113

>>81044635
I don't wish their chuubas any ill but I am kind of glad Idol's 90s sega tier marketing is backfiring

>> No.81051228

>>81050847
nice try making shit up. there has absolutely been zero mention by anyone including yuri about not getting paid.

>> No.81051300

>>81050970
>Hololive
>only 1 graduation/termination within 3 years.
Nah Phase is literally superior to Holo

>> No.81051363

They where paid in exposure.

>> No.81051373

>>81050933
>Some even applied for Vshojo on their rm accounts
Sounds like bullshit, I don't believe anyone would jump from a black to even blacker corpo.

>> No.81051386

>>81051300
Hololive had 0 or 1 termination in their first 3 years, depending on how you perceive Chris

>> No.81051443

>>81051373
Lisa would. It's a popular rrat that she did. I'm starting to think she has a bbc fetish.

>> No.81051453

>>81051386
What about their last 3 years? Phase>Holo

>> No.81051467

>>81051113
BLAST PROCESSING
IDOL DOES WHAT HOLODON'T

>> No.81051497

>>81051453
Let's wait 3 more years and see where Phase is.

>> No.81051573

>>81051497
I accept your concession

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81051637

Dunno what you all are talking about but check out those two green vtubers having fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvOfhgTUizM

>> No.81051804

>>81051637
no

>> No.81051812

>>81047796
I work in a bank HQ and specifically with wire transfers.
It happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME where one client is supposed to pay another and blames it on "a wire being held up with the bank" as a way to get out of paying someone for a bit.

>> No.81051926

>>81045414
Yeah fuck those young people for wanting to get paid for their work.

>> No.81051948

i don't know who this is, but i don't think they've ever had a job. if you do work in the middle of june, you'll get the money in july. the payments are locked in at the beginning of each month so if you start after that the money will come with the next wave of payments. i seriously think this person might be retarded and not understand this

>> No.81052051

>>81051948
You should try reading the doc. If you did work in August would you expect to get paid in February?

>> No.81052058

>>81050622
There was a certain major event in their home country

>> No.81052112

>>81051497
Hololive is Hololive there is no comparison.They are the gold standard of stability and everything.

Phase Connect's track record is impressive given how volatile small agency vtubing can be. The turnover is extremely high at the small corpo level.
With that in mind, the fact that their entire Gen1 is still together 3 years later is nothing short of amazing.

>> No.81052199

>>81050970
Wait what happened with the stolen money?

>> No.81052338

>>81052051
it doesn't say that anywhere, but okay?

>> No.81052359

>>81050224
Who were their PLs?

>> No.81052379

>>81052199
It's the most likely rrat. Whatever she did was bad and genuinely pissed Tenma off.

>> No.81052391

>>81050224
>Roca
Roca Rourin? What happened with her?

>> No.81052461

>>81045528
>>81045483

>> No.81052494

>>81051228
Why doesnt Phase connect send merch that was ordered 8 months ago?

>> No.81052509

>>81052391
She broke her leg and caught covid

>> No.81052525

>>81052391
Roca was Cyberlive

>> No.81052544

>>81052391
What happened is she joined a black corpo, it crashed, then she joined idol and it is not turning out to be this great thing it looked like when she joined.
that being said Roca is someone who is better off having been in Idol than not. I don't think she has any regrets.

>> No.81052547

>>81045162
God I fucking hate autistic artists, lol. She's having a meltdown over nothing.

>> No.81052593

>>81052544
What bad luck to corpo hop from a failure corpo to a black corpo
Hopefully she becomes more intelligent on her next hop

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>>81044635

>> No.81052705

>>81052544
I agree with that sentiment. She was extremely irrelevant under her PL despite working hard for years, now she has the audience she deserves for her effort. Even if she ends up being forced to go indie again, I'm sure she'll at least keep some of her audience.

>> No.81053183

>>81052112
That was basically my point. But Hololive wasn't this big in 2020 and only blew up end of 2020, 2021. If Phase Connect retains their talents another 3 years or even loses just one, they would be more stable than Hololive while being smaller financially. But there's no point in comparing a company's 6 year history to another's 3 year history. That's just retarded apples to oranges.

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>>81051071
Yup, they quit at the same time and joined Phase in the same "invaders" gen
It's also worth noting that as soon as they debuted they started drifting apart so it's not like they were actually friends

>> No.81053615

>>81052494
And this is related to Yuri and something about not being paid - how? Try formulating an actual argument and have some facts to back up your delusions.

>> No.81055116

>>81044635
>with jews you lose

>> No.81055829

whoa, plapkin plappa's company shill.
jews le bad based based based. Lisa pls join us :D

>> No.81056183

>>81055829
why keep working when you are not even going to get paid?

>> No.81056519

What is ES like? I haven't heard any yabs from them yet

>> No.81056608

>>81050549
Jesus Christ. I sporadically follow Lisa especially when she does DrakeNier related streams, but I had no idea. Regardless of Idol's state right now, she probably dodged an even bigger bullet.

>> No.81056617

Shut the fuck up, Pochi
Your collab with the whore barely reached 100 ccv on Twitch.
No one wants to hear what you have to say

>> No.81057134

>>79843157
>apparently in Japan you do not get paid for your first month working for a company so her new job also hasn't paid her yet
yeah that's like every company ever. When you start a new job, it takes time for them to set up the direct deposit. Every time i've ever started at a new company, the first paycheck is always at least a week late, usually two.
artfags are so fucking picky holy shit.

>> No.81057605

>>81057134
that's not an artist, retard, that's one of idol's talents.

>> No.81057872

>>81051300
dont ruin the moment anon, Holo and Phase are both good for what they are and i start to like pixel just because of Kanna too

>> No.81057913

>>81056519
ES is trying to attract EN viewers by streaming in english sometimes but ES viewers are shitting on them because of it, they're fucked, they make no money in ES and there's not much money in EN either. The numbers are also down by more than half since debut.

>> No.81058024

>>81052705
I want Roca to get in either holo or phase, maybe holo is a better fit because she likes to make music and singing is awesome. just let her be happy man

>> No.81058339

>>81057913
Meica was doing well by herself, so baffling she's now sharing earnings with this corpo

>> No.81058408

>>81050224
I will do my best

>> No.81058435

>>81058339
meica already had a strong viewership and she doesn't associate with the rest of ES for some reason, it's almost as if she isn't in idol.

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>company ran by an israeli is shit

>> No.81058607

>>81058435
Why would she join then? I'm guessing Idol promised her the moon or something else, it made zero sense for her to join a small corpo with the amount of views she had

>> No.81058739

>>81048222
They spent more on these porn animations for promotion than they did paying artists

>> No.81058814

>>81058607
Idol probably dumped a bag of money in front of her just to have her name in the roster like they did with Kyoresu.

>> No.81058941

>>81058607
hard to say without looking at her contract, this guy is probably right >>81058814

>> No.81059238

>>81058024
even if she joins phase they're getting more into music between Uruka and Jelly

>> No.81059319

>>81050648
fish at least pays people on time

>> No.81059429

I wouldn't call them a black company since the girls had only positive things to say about the work environment. They probably just flew too close to the sun and didn't have enough money to back their promises up.

>> No.81059659

>>81052199
You'll never get an answer to this because money was never stolen, its the rrat the fishman defense force pushes as hard as they can, same with the cope about "no graduations"

>> No.81059847

>>81050926
True. And if I had to guess, it would be that her father tried to suddenly come back into the picture or something once she became "successful", based on how she talks about it. And in the meantime she's baiting for drama exposure.

>> No.81059898

>>81059659
whenever I have lurked there. it is funny to see in time anons in the Lia thread how they kinda dont drink the Sakana koolaid like every other fanbase does.

>> No.81059915

>>81050465
This. I hope all your small corp oshis also try to run away right after they do a donothon as well because that's the right thing to do after all.

>> No.81060479

>noooo dont look at us! look at phase connect oy vey

>> No.81060586

>>81057913
The funny thing is that happened with HE, they got pissed when they streamed in english but they didn't donate so the girls went full EN

>> No.81060907

>>81060479
who do you think made this catalog drama thread? genuinely curious

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>>81050574
Bored holo unicorns, who started watching small corpos because Cover went full retard with their male debuts, got bored with their discount idol toys and went back home after Advent debuted, causing a huge reduction of revenue.

>> No.81060940

>>81060907
your mom probably

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>>81060940
well fuck me then

>> No.81061813

>>81061042
Show me that boypussy and I might

>> No.81062455

>>81059429
I think so, too (though Juna has been pretty open with her frustrations, and Rin has hinted at some things; both seem to have risen up from this year rather than previous from what I've seen). It seemed like Idol wanted to be a "talents first" agency similar to VShojo and things were going fine for a while, probably because they had a fair amount of money at the start to use liberally on advertising and funding the talents ($2,000 for each of them to get whatever they need for streaming, for example), but that money started running out.

I don't do "reps" so I don't know precisely when these financial issues really began to surface, but it seems like it at least started coming to a head towards the end of 2023, beginning of 2024, so I could definitely see it being a result of either the return on investment being below their goals or, as some anons have said, Idol was receiving a stipend from the Israeli government that was redirected once the Gaza situation blew up.

>> No.81062680

>>81062455
Weren't some staff members called up to the military as well?

>> No.81063182

>>81045269
I agree with you but also agree with >>81045177 that it is should not be done publicly, if at all avoidable.

>>81045414
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKSvdlFO638&&t=75

>> No.81063318

>>81062680
I believe one or two of the first generation ended up in the military, but that was well before the Gaza situation. I think it was just standard IDF compulsory service.

>> No.81063377

>>81063182
>I agree with you but also agree with >>81045177 that it is should not be done publicly, if at all avoidable.
What part of them trying to handle it privately did you not get? They've repeatedly tried to get paid by messaging staff and posting in the freelancer discord and have only gne public after it happening several times and being blown off this most recent time.

>> No.81063515

>>81044635
Imagine my shock

>> No.81063988

>>81058024
I'd love to see her in Holo, but seems unlikely specially now that they claimed they'd stop expanding numbers

>> No.81064079

>>81044635
Don't care. I just watch Rin, Kai and Juna anyway, so if idol collapses into a cunny black hole I'll just follow my oshis wherever they land.

>> No.81064090

>>81044635
They got Jew'd.

>> No.81064179

>>81062455
It's definitely money problems. The fact that multiple girls have complained about their idol credit cards not working anymore for months was the smoking gun.

>> No.81064248

>>81044806
I hope they do, so they can drop some of that dead weight like Momo, Katta and Nikki. (No beef with the latter two, they're just not made out to be engaging streamers)

>> No.81064410

>>81052547
Not getting paid on time by 3 weeks 4 times in tbe last 6 months ain't nothing.

>> No.81064899

>>81045745
Every time I hear some new company or group giving away "free" stuff, there's always either a catch or absolute retardation. No in-between.

>> No.81064902

>>81064410
wow, 3 whole weeks? you realize most workers on the planet gets paid once a month, right? that's 4-5 weeks between payments. shocking revelation.

>> No.81064956

>>81046502
What are they gonna do? Not pay her even more?lol

>> No.81065005

>>81046681
kek

>> No.81065136

>>81064902
>artist and corpo agree on payment date
>no payment on agreed date
>corpo does nothing unless artist contact them about late payment
Fucking entitled artists

>> No.81065251

>>81065136
unironically yes. i can't wait until they're replaced by AI and art is fully democratized.

>> No.81065257

>>81044635
Exactly what i expected from them.

>> No.81065296

>>81051363
The classic.

>> No.81065336

So they don't pay artists; they don't pay mixers; they don't pay talents. What does Idol actually do?

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>>81045483
But it was never their own fault!!!

>> No.81065438

>>81044635
Should have added a link OP.

>> No.81065497

>>81065336
Steal all donothon money, whore out the talents

>> No.81065546

>>81056617
Ah, yes. Silencing and Jews go hand in hand. Except in this case you barely have any money to silence anybody.

>> No.81065746

>>81065497
When will they whore out Rin to me?

>> No.81065863

>>81050224
Lisa deserved it, she had every chance to join Phase or continue as an relatively succesfull indie but choose Idol instead.

I really hoped she would have been smarter than selling out to ((them)) but now she’s made the bed and will have to sleep in it.

>> No.81066199

>>81065251
There is literally nothing stopping you from making art, anon. Don't tell me you're lazier and less capable than a filthy, left leaning artist.

>> No.81066301

>>81065863
I really dont get why any indie, especially relatively successful ones, would join any corpo except Phase (proven track record), Hololive and a big fat maybe on any of the Brave branches (VSPO, V4Mirai, Globie if you are feeling suicidal).
>why is brave maybe okay-ish
because they have deep pockets so at least you know you wont get screwed out of your money and have a shop that actually delivers merch. But of course it is the least desirable out of the three even with Phase having the Pippa debuff

>> No.81066303

>>81066199
i have a job, unlike leftists

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>>81065863
Shut up, pipnigger.

>> No.81066486

>>81065863
>she had every chance to join Phase
Not according to her, she very explicitly said that they never made her an offer.

>> No.81066505

>>81065863
Dizzy and Lisa hate each other.

>> No.81066546

>>81065863
Would Lisa lose her model/channel if idol goes under or gets bought out by Brave?

>> No.81066556

>ctrl+F phase: 13 matches
jesas
All of this is only telling me that Fishman is a lucky motherfucker. Imagine being an autist who RPs as a Starcraft turret and makes a vtuber corp to sell coffee (despite not drinking any), hiring only sad menheras by choice, and still doing far better than all the competition while they keep fucking up.

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>>81066303
Anon is too stupid to understand a DAW...

>> No.81066603

>>81044635
https://x.com/idol_corp/status/1814402165944787255 If Idol's reaching out publicly, this is clearly not a small issue

>> No.81066717

>>81066556
Fishman secret is not hiring his sexpest friends as managers.

>> No.81066746

>>81066556
In my mind he made a corpo for cute girls to play lol with him

>> No.81066791
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81066791

Oh no no no. I remember when they tried to out "Talent Freedom" VShojo by promising to pay for a bunch of shit. I guess their talent took that too seriously.

>> No.81066819

>>81066546
Idol made a big show about its new initiative that lets talents keep their model in exchange for a longer contract.

>> No.81066842

>>81050702
Holy based.

>> No.81066957

>>81045431
oyvey don't be so antisemeitic!

>> No.81067068

>>81066505
Qrd?
>>81066819
I bet this will become a lie. Like everything else Idol. If he sells Brave, he doesn't have to give a shit about the rage backlash.

>> No.81067194

>>81065863
Lisa also did some things behind closed doors that was fucked. This is just karma.

>> No.81067208

>>81066577
i'm waiting on my dirtywave m8 :)

>> No.81067403

Reminded how Selen was covering for Nijisanji. And look how that turned out for her.

>> No.81067652

>>81067068
>Qrd?
Remember how Dizzy used to be a manager, the a hybrid manager/talent? She uploaded this today, connect the dots

https://youtu.be/cSEUhXzpo_c?si=Ug20S5ZTVwyqUKwU

>> No.81067868

>>81066546
Lisa and Tonya are safe. With how much money problems they have, they might even consider letting the talents themselves buyout their IP.

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>>81066556
Fishman sucks for micromanaging Hina and bonking her for everything she does

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>>81067652
True! Dizzy HATES Muyu!

>> No.81068003

>>81067652
I must be missing a dot then.

>> No.81068273

>>81067652
Jesus christ, she's so fucking spiteful

Eternal reminder:
The only reason she landed a job at PC is because the Fish's mom made him hire her and because she bought her own model so it was one less check for him to sign.

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81068801

rosa nakadashi

>> No.81068813

>>81067652
What does this have to do with Lisa?

>> No.81068987

By the end of the year the EN corpo scene might end up being: Holo>VShojo>Phase>All the shit Brave owns

>> No.81069115

>>81044635
CANCEL IDOL NOW! CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL! SUPPORT OUT ARTISTS, WHICH INCLUDES AUDIO ENGINEERS

>> No.81069308

>>81067652
Imagine bragging how you ran your company into the ground

>> No.81069358

>>81069308
That would be PPP and his groomer friend Brandy/S-train

>> No.81069412

>>81052544
Agreed same with Poko.

Hopefully Idol, Encore, and ES remain close when shit collapses. Best case scenario would be the Jew sells the girls their models when it all comes tumbling down.
Fortunately the girls have fanbases that would follow them off a cliff so everyone will be okay.

What annoys me is that MY POKO is working overtime for the other girls because artist don't want to do work for Idol now.

>> No.81069551

>>81069412
The absolute best case is that they sell to Brave but give a chance to let any girls leave with their shit before the change over happens.

>> No.81069626

>>81066819
yeah and it's literally just a scam to keep them there longer while they slow roll payments and give them NO support

>> No.81069671

>>81044635
>jews
>jewing
I’m in shock

>> No.81069720

>>81044635
Idol couldn't even send gifts dropped off by fans and the things talents bought with their own money from Offkai last year (2023) to them, what makes you think they'd treat freelancers any better?

>> No.81069754

>>81069626
I feel bad for Lisa... imagine being stuck in a 2 year contract while idol can terminate you whenever they want and steal your IP

>> No.81069800

>>81069551
Considering Poko set up her back up plan. It's literally just Pokosaur and CUNNY.
And they all spent 2 weeks together sick and bonding. I am 100% sure Endless and Encore have their parachutes ready to deploy.

>> No.81069907

>>81067652
This dumb whore has tried several times to hire males both for talent and managerial positions and fishman has stopped her every time

>> No.81069919

>>81069754
Don't sign the fucking contract! Jesas. Why do chuubas keep signing away their characters they built up to corpos!

>> No.81070055

>>81069907
Has it ever been confirmed she tried to hire males for Phase? Fishman seemed adamant about no males even before Tsunderia collpased and Dizzy debuted.

>> No.81070133

>>81068273
>she's so fucking spiteful
What is she spiteful of? She left Tsunderia by choice.

>> No.81070191

>>81070055
Yeah

>> No.81070219

>>81070133
She got fired during an argument with the CEO over not hiring someone to replace the other manager.
Source: I was in the other room.

>> No.81070333

>>81070055
Dizzy's pals(Lumi, Shiina, Amber) every now and then joke around on stream about how if you have a penis fishman will flat out toss your CV in the trash

>> No.81070374

>>81050465
>POCHI DID NOTHING
we know, that's why she put in her request to graduate two weeks after earning $20k+ during her donothon

>> No.81070381

>>81070219
>She got fired
I doubt that
>this leads to Lisa and her hating each other
Logical. Thanks S-train.

>> No.81070457

>>81070333
>toss your CV in the trash
Based.

>> No.81070485

Dizzy Dokuro gave me a blowjob at a Taco Bell parking lot in 2022 but halfway through she burped and then apologized saying she couldn’t continue. I had to masturbate myself to completion while she noisily drank her Mountain Dew Baja Blast and looked in the other direction.
Idol Corp.

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>>81070457
Yes, except these dumb whores always portray it in a negative light
Hell there was one Filian stream where she had both Lumi and Sakana as guests and at one point the lemon whore put the fishman on the spot by saying he doesn't want them having boyfriends or dating at all

>> No.81070884

>>81070752
Bad news for a couple of them...

>> No.81071010

>>81070752
>he doesn't want them having boyfriends or dating at all
Considering half of them have boyfriends anyway....

>> No.81071355

>>81070884
>>81071010
That's the point, they wanna acknowledge it on-stream and bring on their boyfriends on as guests or even make them recurring characters
The fish is understandably completely against the idea, it's one of the many reasons he butts heads with Dizzy so much

>> No.81071494

>>81071355
>women being retarded
>man has to put foot down and say no
It isn't surprising. I can believe this rrat.

>> No.81071744

>>81071355
How does Lisa figure into all of the Dizzy, Sakana conflict?

>> No.81071901

>>81044635
>Idol Corp
I told you about those (((())))!
I warned you dog!

>> No.81071952

>>81068801
Sex

>> No.81071974

>>81044635
They have nothing to fear; Idol provides the best CGDCT content in the entire EN vtubing sphere. Even if they hit a few bumps in the road, nobody else comes close in quality.

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>>81071901
I know but they are literally holding my wife hostage!

>> No.81072173

>>81071744
She probably just doesn't want to deal with those pippa retards
They've been harassing her for months even before tsunderia went under

>> No.81072217

>>81046681
Sorry the jannies only get paid to monitor /pcg/ and the kiwinigger threads like /pyon/

>> No.81072282

>>81072173
>rrats that Dizzy and Lisa hate each other
>wasn't offered a spot
>most of Lisa's audience are capippalists
Your rrat sucks.

>> No.81072294

>>81052338
they did work in December and still haven't been paid

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>>81072282
Ok

>> No.81072413

>>81072123
i am truly sorry for your lots

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>>81071355
Where are you even getting this shit from, anon? Don't you know lying is a sin?

>> No.81072581

>open Idol thread
>people relentlessly cock sucking Phase
happens LITERALLY every single time
Pippa really needs to tard wrangle her fucking drama niggers and stop sending them to harass people
Just shit on Idol, why the fuck you need to make literally every single thread about Phase?

>> No.81072593

>>81072294
shameful

>> No.81072611
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>>81072328
What is a discord screenshot of two faggots making idle gossip supposed to prove, you gay nigger.

>> No.81072634

>>81044869
They were "partnering" with Brave or something like that but that's what other groups said before getting assimilated too.

>> No.81072644

>>81072611
sheepy oyabun is Lisa

>> No.81072658

>>81072611
NTA but Sheepy Oyabun is Lisa you literal fucking retard....

>> No.81072675

>>81072581
Where?
We're shitting on Dizzy Dokuro, the third most powerful person in Phase Connect

>> No.81072705

>>81072328
You mean two of her biggest fans who are still active in her streams and Lisa interacts with heavily? Good job. You really proved that Lisa hates capippalists.

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>>81072658
I could figure that out, you niggerfaggot, she tells them to go talk about companies on their own discord instead of gossiping on hers. What shocking revelation am I supposed to see here?

>> No.81072884

>>81072675
fuck off with that dumb shit, this is just what i care to spend 1 min finding in here
>>81050970
>>81051300
>>81051453
>>81052112
>>81053183
>>81053378
>>81057872
>>81058024
>>81059238
>>81065863
>>81068987
>>81049046
>>81049753
>>81050224
>>81067194
>>81069754

>> No.81073183

>>81072884
>jew corp bad
>I wish the worthwhile girls signed with a better corpo
>hololive is unrealistic
>phase is more attainable
Do you legit have brain damage or something?

>> No.81073209

>>81073183
>being retarded on "purpose"

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>>81071974
*blocks your path*

>> No.81073654

>>81073209
I get that you dilate in rage at the thought of Phase Connect because Tenma and Pippa had some tepid takes about trannies 2 years ago but the fact remains that Sakana's Asylum for Crazy Whores is a better alternative than where Idol's girls are now

>> No.81073732

>>81073654
ok?
and that makes this a phase connect shill thread to you?
im not really understanding the logic here.

>> No.81073789

>>81073732
>STOP SAYING IDOL CORP BAD!

>> No.81073912

>>81073789
see here you retarded phase nigger >>81072581
i get you cant read but im saying why is every Idol hate thread a Phase shill thread. Idol is very clearly dogshit and should be shit on for their problems, that doesnt mean you fucking retards need to come in here and constantly post about Phase like you do in every other fucking thread.

>> No.81073922

this thread is so fucking retarded. so many people pretending like they know everything when in reality they don't know jack fucking shit. well, that's just all of /vt/ I guess

>> No.81073945

>>81073641
This is even worse bait than the post it's replying to

>> No.81073966

>>81073789
You can't be this retarded you have to be doing this on purpose right?

>> No.81074079

>>81073912
>>81073966
>STOP PROPOSING SOLUTIONS

>> No.81074109

>>81073922
>so many people pretending like they know everything when in reality they don't know jack fucking shit
I know absolutely nothing about Idol Corp other than that they are Israeli. That's all I really need to know. I have no further comment outside of the fact that they are Israeli. Their actions will always speak louder than anything else I can say.

>> No.81074287

>>81070752
>>81071355
Proof?

>> No.81074681

>>81073912
When Lisa gets brought up and Idol Corp, who tried positioning themselves as rivals to Phase, starts to crash, why the fuck are you surprised people will talk about Phase?

>> No.81074728

>>81074681
has been happening long before Lisa joined but good attempt at a deflection

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>>81072429
>>81074287
https://youtu.be/NHZFCbGHTQI?si=Cf6L-OKtEwQN0bXI

10:31

>> No.81074940

didn’t they just have a big offline meetup and recording sessions and all that?

>> No.81075063

>>81071355
If the rule he's pushing is basically "You can have boyfriends or whatever just shut the fuck up and dont talk about them or bring them on stream" then that's a perfectly reasonable sensible way of doing things and probably the best possible option

>> No.81075168

>>81074767
What? Did he want them to be his own personal harem?

>> No.81075277

>>81045162
Wow, she is so lucky that her experience freelancing has made her expect payment from companies in 30 days. Some industries you're lucky if you get your money in 6 months. Not sure one month is enough to burn your reputation with companies.

>> No.81076001

>>81075277
its been 7 months you stupid nigger....

>> No.81076283

>>81075168
God no, he only using them to get close to marine.

>> No.81076380

>>81044635
Meh

>> No.81076452

>>81050224
her fans told her to join phase, which was a good idea, but she decided to be a cunt and joined the only corpo she knows her fans hate, she doesnt deserve any pity.

>> No.81076852

>>81048891
is legal mindset also a jew?

>> No.81077148

>>81076852
Yes I saw him at our last jew council meeting

>> No.81077183

>>81076852
>lawyer
odds are high

>> No.81077365

>>81077148
Oh you were there too? I was sitting in row BC seat 147, any chance I ran into at the mixer afterwards? I had a beard and a yarmulke if that narrows it down.

>> No.81077639

>>81044635
Aviels offices are getting bombed by Yemen and Hamas so of course he can't pay anybody. Send more drones my boys.

>> No.81077680

>>81048891
>hiring the meme lawyer so none of the talents who left run to him with the contract
power play

>> No.81077720

>>81075277
pointing the finger elsewhere won't make you look better

>> No.81077840

>>81044635
I am utterly shocked that le happy streamer corp pinches it's shekels.

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>> No.81077961

>>81076452
I bet Lisa didn't even try to apply to Hololive. If she really did apply to Vshojo and not Hololive, that girl has zero brain cells.

>> No.81077971

>>81045526
did he try to bait aviel the jewblin into his DMs by mentioning loot?

>> No.81078023
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>>81070133
One of her signature streams are out-of-character streams where she drops the annoying voice and just vagueposts(vaguestreams?) about what went down with her old corpo while giving her "expert advice" to up and coming vtubers.
To this day she's utterly convinced she was the saviour of that place and the only reason it collapsed is because everyone else didn't do exactly what she said.

>> No.81078107

>>81077961
to be fair many of her streams revolve around music, which she'd have to drop completely if she went jp corpo

>> No.81078133

>>81078023
>because everyone else didn't do exactly what she said.
She isn't wrong. That place didn't even last a year after she left and all 3 managers hired to replace her quit very suddenly.

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>>81074767
>that awkward silence
fucking lumi
it's already an open secret she fucks one of her mods but it's still not good enough

>> No.81078225

>>81078148
yeah, me

>> No.81078253

>Idol thread
>Phase Connect post
>Phase Connect is better than Hololive
>Phase Connect post
>Phase Connect post
>Lisa hate post
>Phase Connect post
>Phase Connect post
>Phase Connect post
>Lisa hate post
>Phase Connect post
>Phase Connect post
>Phase Connect post
>Lumi shill post
>Phase Connect post
>Phase Connect is better than Hololive
>Phase Connect post
wow incredible!!!

>> No.81078299

>>81078107
>do music streams that she does once a month
>be part of an agency that routinely releases albums and is connected to major music companies, has regular massive concerts, and is one of the most reputable companies
Yeah anon. That's a hard choice for a girl that dreams of being a professional and popular musician.

>> No.81078347

>>81078253
That's just how irrelevant Idol is, everyone already knows they're not making it another year.

>> No.81078502

>>81078225
'sup Xala?
Lumi is still streaming on twitch, pay attention

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>>81078253
baby first phase shill thread...

>> No.81078523

>>81078299
yes, because idol music isn't her thing? not everyone wants to be an idol, not sure why that's so offensive to you lol. she likes fucking indie rock and shoegaze lol

>> No.81078704

>>81048222
I'm glad she's free doing porn now

>> No.81078784

>>81078148
I'll never understand how Airi is part of the Cali Clique

>> No.81078805

>>81078523
Implying that COVER wouldn't let her get in to rock or shoegaze for her own original music.

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>>81075168
He's first and foremost a Marine fanboy, in his mind the sweetspot for a vtuber is to be sexual but not overtly so. Tease, but never go full retard and let her talk about her boyfriend and what kind of blowjobs he prefers.

If his oshi was Korone for example Phase Connect would be a very different company.

>> No.81078894

>>81076001
Read it again. She's been having issues for seven months but she hasn't gotten payment delayed for 7 months. Every company is like this to work with. Companies hate to pay freelancers. My advice is to get paid up front or have a strict payment structure with penalties in the contract.

>> No.81078948

>>81074767
>5:48
I am probably the only one who did not apply
So even Dizzy applied. Lisa did not and thought she'd just be approached.

>> No.81078956

>>81078894
Every company? Damn you must be a shit contractor.

>> No.81079045

>>81078871
>Korone
It'd just be more Tenma themed then. You're thinking of Coco.

>> No.81079219

>>81044635
>july
>jew lie

>> No.81079306

>>81078523
>idol music isn't her thing?
You clearly don't listen to Hololive music then. Also Lisa already covered Stella Stella and chose that as her offkai concert song. Lisa is also a giant idolfag and was huge into White Album 2 for awhile and a massive Miku and Idolmaster fan. Hololive is more than
>le idol corpo
Considering Calli, Coco, and others. And yet Lisa joined the corpo literally called
>idol corp
Fucking lmao. Get fucked.

>> No.81079396

https://x.com/TommZe_/status/1814389178983198873
Oh no idol goyim, oh no no no no no!

>> No.81079414

>>81044635
Idol bros are more pissed at management than you are.

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>>81079306
She is into Love Live, not Idolmaster.

>> No.81079512

Oy Vey!

>> No.81079717

>>81044869
Idol knows how to market. Brave knows how to actually run a fucking company. They're exactly what the other was missing. Though the Brave acquisition is feeling pretty credible since they're the ones paying a lot of refunds that people were asking for.

>> No.81079734

>>81079306
so true oomfie, drinking piss on stream is par for the course for idols. it's almost as if it's just a name that doesn't mean anything, you daft cunt.

>> No.81079895

>>81079734
And Coco shaved her pubic hair live in Hololive, retard.

>> No.81080064

>>81044806
fpbp

>> No.81080070

>>81045012
>Get asked to do work that you'll be paid for
>Do work
>Still haven't been paid for it yet
That's all it is, no other big rrat to extract. I'm not downplaying it, but that's the only thing being mentioned there. The real issue is that if you're doing commissions for a supposedly big company, and that company's checks are bouncing, that is a very bad sign and you should be looking into their financial records to see if they'll even exist long enough to actually pay you.

>> No.81080072

>>81079734
How can you think this is a dunk when Haachama exists. Haachama invented Vtuber doing gross/weird things.

>> No.81080257

>>81045617
I forgot they actually pay people to clip Idol streams. What a stupid ass concept, almost as stupid as that one holo clipper who tried to politicize his shit after the whole zhang yab

>> No.81080271

>>81078023
>One of her signature streams are out-of-character streams where she drops the annoying voice
Damn, content actually worth a damn from Dizzy?

>> No.81080301

>>81078523
Idol Corp is just a shittier version of Hololive. Stop being a bitch about it.

>> No.81080422

>>81078253
What do you want us to falk about then?
If it's not that it'd be
>UUUUOOOHHH
>UUUUUOOOHHHHHH
>non cunny idol hate post
>CHILD BELLY AND FEET AND PISSY CUNNY
>Non cunny idol hate post
That's how /jidf/ looks

>> No.81080521

>>81080422
dont forget shit talking former members and wishing for more graduations/terminations.

>> No.81080529

>>81080422
ok but that thread is literally about cunny and no they dont hate on non Idol cunny there... not sure why you are lying, oh wait yea i am, nevermind

>> No.81080549

>>81080301
can't be worse than hololive so i don't see how that's possible.

>> No.81080602

>>81080549
>can't be worse than hololive
Good bait, here's your (You)

>> No.81080836

>>81080529
>no they dont hate on non Idol cunny there
>>81080226

Such perfect timing. The reason you say that is because the pedos there spam the thread with ritualposrs snd the same fanart so much anyone else pretty much left. You see a steeple and a rinfag here and there, but they're anomalies.

>> No.81080922

>>81080836
wow a obvious thread shitter, thats so CRAZY

>> No.81081061

>>81078894
>Every company is like this to work with
I run a tiny indie game company and I pay every freelancer the day they're done and often advance them money if they're someone I work with a lot
For a company with so many sponsors and investors to be like this is fucking mental and points to all sorts of shady shit happening ESPECIALLY when there are all sorts of other problems happening too

>> No.81081158

>>81079396
oh shit I know that guy from Juna and Juniper

>> No.81081498

>>81081061
yea its just a corpo cock sucking excuse

>> No.81082147

>>81078253
>>81080422
>go to the /jidf/ thread
>CTRL + F "Phase"
>only 1 (one) result which is the OP listing Phase Connect as one of the Idol Friends
Wow, so this thread was just an entire redflag shitpost huh? Good to know.

>> No.81082165

>>81067068
>qrd?
They don't follow each other on X despite their past. Obvious bad blood.

>> No.81082411
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81082411

>>81082165
Lisa follows Dizzy. Dizzy doesn't follow Lisa though.

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