/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Sana so far behind.

Is there any way to save her?

How do we stop her?

this is thanks to /vt/

>>8085724
What is the reason that Sana is lowest in subs?

>>8085755
paint bucket tool > white

>>8085819
there are 100k people on /vt/?

>>8085827
Black

>>8085827
She's the Netflix adaption of Hololive

>>8085827
She's brown instead of black. If she was black the whites would be lining up to kiss her feet and worship her.

>>8085755
>feet
https://twitter.com/tsukumosana/status/1427672833488867334

>>8085755
Swap her shirt and skip colours

>>8085724
Can they pass all of NijiEN in subs before their debuts or within 24 hours of their debut?

>>8085827
Her design just looks weird. Shading feels off and I really don't like the hair. Seemed to look good in motion, judging by her twitter.

>>8085827
Same reason Flare has the least subs in Gen 3.

Rat is /OURGIRL/


Verification not required.

>>8086031
Sure,IRyS was >200K before debut

>>8086031
they going to have 200k subs before debut at least.

>>8085724
OGEY

>>8085755
cunny redesign

>>8085827
Because she doesn't have her lucky accessories - a slice of watermelon and a chicken drumstick.

>>8086094
we should adopt her as our mascot.

>>8085755
Her personality will save her

>>8086071
Does that mean that her OTP partner will be oshi?

>>8086193
and basketball hoops

>>8086094
Calm down. She could be another eceleb chaser.

>>8085755
Deserved. Dark skin is shit

>>8086184
RRAT

I honestly think it's the Japanese behind this. Even racist Americans like a cute brown girl, even if just for fapbait. Japan is weird about racial purity, they don't even like to acknowledge hot brown girls, unless it's just a "tan".

>>8085755
being discriminated against will blackpill her and she will in turn have the best personality, similar with what happened to Ame, who generally didn't have much to offer.

>>8086130
But Irys' sub growth was 4 times faster than fastest NijiEN2. She got her 100k in 5 hours.
I think that only rat girl has a chance to beat NijiEN before debut. Others will probably do that during/right after debut.

>>8085724
Let us say, for the sake of argument, that the tendency remains the same as they reach 1 million.

Then, she will only have 900k suscribers. That's not bad, and in fact, it is way better than the gap between the most and least suscribed members of gen 1. Even if she's down to 800k, that's nothing compared to the gap between Gura and Kiara, hell... it is better than the gap between Kiara and Calli (the second most suscribed member)

Besides, once they debut, these numbers are bound to change. I know it is unlikely for Sana to reach first place, and Hakos is pretty much set for success, but every other position can and will most likely change.

>>8085755
Honestly, it’s not even just the brown, it’s the colour palette in general. There are nice-looking brown tones and palettes that go well with them. None of those are present in that character design.

And if it turns out they hired an actual nigger and she speaks like an actual nigger, then it’s game over for her.

>>8086409
Sana is stayin at the back of the gen where she belongs

>>8086031
RRat might even reach 250k before debut

>>8085755
She needs to get a better design. I think Holo gave her a bad design. Same with Irys.

>>8086203
Ew

>>8086409
the sub gap really starts to show after a few weeks, these numbers are just people subscribing for the hype and a few for the design

>>8086351
This. Unless you have a hard Dunning Kruger syndrome its impossible to not see his own mediocrity and try to improve upon it.

>>8086745
GTFO KFP faggot, we don't want your stupid bird

>>8086203
She's /vt/'s queen

So this is the power of cunny

>>8085724
The sheer blatantness of the rat being shilled as gura 2.0, from the design to being centered in all the promotional stuff, is honestly really annoying.

>>8085755
The rest have relatively even sub growth. Sana just has a bad design. And at this stage people.are subbing based on design alone.

Far fewer faggots obsessively browse 4chan, Reddit or discord to find out past lives. People don't know that she'll be the comfy uncontroversial artfag. It'll take time for word to trickle around before it's reflected in Sana's subs. This is why her growth will be stagnant despite having a solid talent behind the care.

Honestly, I think she'll do just fine with retention. The only issue is getting beyond people's first impressions.

>>8086359
>I think that only rat girl has a chance to beat NijiEN before debut
Highest NijiEN is at 172k.
100k in oneday so everyone including Sana will pass all of NijiEN before their debut on Sunday.

>>8086806
If Hakos is anything like Pippa or any other /here/ vtuber, she'll suck. I want her to be actually good.

>>8086232
This, this the only way

>>8086961
Yeah.like Ollie. She's doing very well despite her niche design.

>>8085724
>the owl is in second
Looks about right.

>>8086430
Ayo
*smacks lips*
Today we will be playing
*smacks lips*
*eats chicken*
Ayo we be playin that
*smacks lips*
minecraft muh nigguhz

>>8085724
So the rrat is obviously the deadbeat, and Sana the tako, but who is the chumbud?

>>8085827
She looks like Luna
But older and brazillian

>>8086989
>No single NijiEN member has defeated the tutorial boss before debut stream
>IRyS beat everyone in NijiEN before debut
>All of HoloCouncil may beat the most subbed of NijiEN before debut
/vt/ told me Hololive was done, how can this happen?

>>8087029
The options are ky0resu, orschizo, namie or a random aussie girl, pick your poison wisely anon

>>8087110
Me.

>>8086316
because a japanese girl with a tan is inherently superior

>>8087110
Fauna will be her mommy

>>8085724
That's ogey

>>8087110
>Mori hinted to have a thing with the rrat.
>Sana hinted to be with ancient one
>Time will have something with Ame
So Civilization the loner if any is a chumbud.

>>8087070
Ollie was a random indie chuba, the annoying Kiara of her gen, and a sex obsessed zoomer who didn't have the sense to not only fuck off stream but also not bring her genmates into it so they could get cucked live in 1080p.

Sana has talent, isn't especially grating, and hasn't had sex on stream. I think she'll do much better than Ollie. EN2 is Cover finishing their warm-up and getting serious.

>>8085724
tasukete

>>8087398
Kek people already know about Sana's past life?

>>8085724
I kneel

>>8085724
For me, I think it's the color scheme and outfit that are a bit off putting. I think different colors and a slightly more flashy outfit would be nice. I like her face and hair and think the skin tone is fine, but she's underdesigned and clashing colors in a gen full of over designed eye cancer. Hell giving her a school girl outfit with some geta to still get the footfag audience and steal that okinawa look would have been cool.

>>8085827
Nigger debuff

>>8085755
Go full leopard print slutty gyaru with her alt outfit

>>8086961
hope so, but im bail out for now, not because of the design, but she trying too hard to blend in with the holo cultures ended up she just cringe herself, trying too hard to show dominance toward some of the senpais, till it become a little bit rude for me.

>>8087207
Rrat - kyoresu
Sana - namie
Saber - seru
Owl - orcschizo
Bush - TBA

That's just what's being spread around the threads I drive by shitpost in. Also, I apparently missed the entire orcschizo arc and didn't even know she existed. Truly a shame. Apparently there are organized antis as well rather than just trolls shitposting for the lolz. Why would anyone even unironically hate a cosplay thot the the extent that you'd waste your life trying to spite her? The best spite is always living a good life and dabbing your own success in people's faces.

>>8086430
chud moment

>>8087126
>/vt/ told me Hololive was done, how can this happen?

/vt/ is dumb. Just take a look at the amount of posts in /vt/ itself after HoloEN2's announcement compared the general lack of interest in NijiEN2.

>>8089789
So technically if OrcSchizo does debut then they should be fired instantly for spreading lies about Kiara due to their own incompetance for thinking they were hired.

>>8086185
>>8086232
>>8088576
right answers, now make all of them 3 happen at the same time

>>8085827
Face too long

>>8089789
You sound like you were born yesterday.

>>8090644
Nobody expected cover to reverse course and save the branch. But that doesn't mean we don't still think fondly of our Nijis. Holomyth and HoloID still need to socialize more. You know, except not with vshitshow. Or men. Niji's are a good roster of sidekicks, providing Holomyth ever decides to, you know, build that bridge like the based carpenter nips before them.

Unfortunately, what I think will happen is EN2 branching out and doing Niji collabs first while myth continues to lock themselves in their ivory tower. Still not sure what their problem is. I stopped watching their content exactly because they isolated themselves and never really switched it up.

I honestly think EN2 will also be doing 3D streams where they hit each other in the asses with whiffle bats while myth continues churning out solo streams like punchclock factory workers who can't wait to be done for the day. Even if they browse here, I've yet to see anyone drop the rrats for why this is. All I can guess is that they hate each other behind the scenes because petty women shit. Truly a shame. Holomyth was a mistake.

>>8087404
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this with Sana's avatar.

>>8086185
Kek I wish Sana was flat just to make the joke that the ancient ones only like flat girls

>>8087404

>>8092516
i kek'd

>>8090843
Implying men have any taste for women's petty passive aggressive games. It would be a PR disaster. Also an obscene waste of money. That's money they could've invested in Bitcoin for a 50% ROI. If they hired her then she's their tard to wrangle. After all, we all remember what happened when cover dropped the ball with Aloe. They'd have to be retarded to deliberately orchestrate the same thing purely out of spite, at which point what grounds do they even have for shitting on her?

Anyway, it's just a rrat and probably not true for obvious reasons. But if they does turn out to be true, I've nothing against a redemption arc. Even Luna was a lowly Niji before becoming a hololive princess.

>>8091800
Femanon yo, this is the enlightened based ojii-san pill.

>>8085827
Socioeconomic reasons

>>8089789
Hana Flores is bush

>>8085755
>"I won't play Minecraft or Apex"
Instant sub from everyone who actually plays video games

I feel like a good contrarian. I like her design the most.

>>8087553
Someone pls post

They aren't doing as good as IRyS did with 100k in 6 hours

>>8093360
So all 5 of them. You'd be stupid not to play Minecraft in Hololive.

>>8092897
If the posts turned out to be true they could easily Hitomi Chris her and apologize for the inconvenience. Only IF the posts are true though. It would be big news for a while but then it'd blow over.

>>8086031
Yes, they have more 4 days to humiliate NijiEN

>>8085755
>10k subscribers
>far behind
can't imagine being this infected by /vt/ brainworms

>>8085827
N

>>8085724
based, I wonder if sana's fanbase will be the next KFP

>>8094550
retard

>>8086678
Irys is easy to fix, it's just the face that's ugly. Sana needs a complete redesign

Why holoniggers talk bad about nijiEN and as if sub numbers was the most important thing? Viewr number is what matters and now ur girls will have to divide their numbers LMAO

>>8096100
Still have more view. Holocell keep on winning

>>8096272
And next gen? J8d

>>8086071
flare design is good though. her problem is other 3rd Genmate are too powerful

>>8086430
>hired an actual nigger and she speaks like an actual nigger, then it’s game over for her.
She doesn't even need to be black. An American accent would be enough. Twitter would either call her not black enough or culturally appropriating colored people. She needs to be naturally and obviously ESL as fuck
>>8085755
tanlines

how many subs had gura before her debut? i was there but i dont remember

>>8097130
Same desu.

>>8085724
images that makes indies on twitter seethe

>>8097130
September 10th 2 days before debut
Gura 57.5k, Ina 55.1k, Amelia 53.9k, Calliope 51.3k Kiara 47.8k subscribers
https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ip81iv/hololive_english_is_a_myth_holomyth/g4plduo/

>>8085724
>Negrobros...

>>8087404
Damn can't unsee

What are the odds sana is actually

>>8100514
50% any thing that not 0 or 100 is 50.

>>8100294
wtf gen 2 is strong

>>8085827
Bad design

>>8091817
Take your meds, schizo

>>8100294
EN2 audition is much more competitive than EN1. People have a better chance entering a top university than entering EN2. I hope they do well.

>>8100294
numbers at debut day:
Mori Calliope: 107K
Ninomae Ina'nis: 90k
Takanashi Kiara: 78K
Watson Amelia: 109K
Gawr Gura: 86K

>>8104930
this really slays the rrat that guras popularity is only bc of her model

>>8104930
That's interesting. Watson was also the middle one and the "protagonist" of gen 1. Shit could still change a ton after debut.

>>8105022
history gets revised daily here. check the archive for how many pretend that Guras old channel had over 1m people before she debuted

>Nobody expected cover to reverse course and save the branch. But that doesn't mean we don't still think fondly of our Nijis. Holomyth and HoloID still need to socialize more. You know, except not with vshitshow. Or men. Niji's are a good roster of sidekicks, providing Holomyth ever decides to, you know, build that bridge like the based carpenter nips before them.
>Unfortunately, what I think will happen is EN2 branching out and doing Niji collabs first while myth continues to lock themselves in their ivory tower. Still not sure what their problem is. I stopped watching their content exactly because they isolated themselves and never really switched it up.
>I honestly think EN2 will also be doing 3D streams where they hit each other in the asses with whiffle bats while myth continues churning out solo streams like punchclock factory workers who can't wait to be done for the day. Even if they browse here, I've yet to see anyone drop the rrats for why this is. All I can guess is that they hate each other behind the scenes because petty women shit. Truly a shame. Holomyth was a mistake.

>>8085827
Her eyes.
They stare straight into my soul. I'd feel guilty if I watched her, because she'd be looking at all my sins laid bare.

>>8085827
Shes black,
Same reason flare is lowest in her gen

>>8085724
>Cunny
>Hololive
What a shocker right guys?? Can't believe she hit 100k pre-debut.

>>8085915
Drake isnt even brown and white people line up to kiss his ass

>>Cunny
>>Hololive
>What a shocker right guys?? Can't believe she hit 100k pre-debut.

>>8089789
>Saber - seru
Who?

What are the bets for post debut sub rankings? Here's mine.
1. Rrat
2. Fauna
3. Mumei
4. Kronii
5. Sana

Prepared to bet Kronii is an artist who is a mediocre entertainer, Sana won't be able to overcome her model debuff and Fauna will be the GFE EOPs are waiting for. I imagine Baelz will keep her top spot for the same reason Ollie is miles ahead of her gen and Mumei will be middling.

>>8105410

>>8086316
But tan girl porn and ambf is surprisingly has a cult following in japan they sell pretty well

>>8105416
Doesn't matter because Kronii is Kätzchen. She basically doxxed herself. Only 1 of the 5 anyone can be reasonably sure of.

>>8086773
You ether take the parh of ame or kiara

>>8105410
>Cunny
>Hololive

>>8089789
Kyoresu has a nice career ahead of her already she doesnt need this shitty black company to succed, if anything she joined for fun but i hope she didnt

>>8101031
Who made that meme lol

>>8105022
>>8105162

No one ever said that shit
(You) are the history revisionists.
People were ranting about how since guras roommate already had a million subs and an extremely distinctive voice she has an unfair advantage over the other holos who were literal whos before debut, she already had an established fanbase

>>8105380
>I do not know what cunny is pls rape my face

Orcschizo isn't in. "She's" notorious on 4chan and is a walking timebomb. Kiara knows of her too, no way Kiara wouldn't throw a massive fit over her and let it be known what "she" did.

>>8105806
most vtubers are walking timebombs

>>8105765
>how many pretend that Guras old channel had over 1m people
>No one ever said that shit
>guras roommate already had a million subs
rumao roru roru

>>8105836
There aren't any basket cases in hololive though.

>>8086409
Gura was in the middle in terms of subcount before debut. Pre debut numbers just reflect the quality of the models.

>>8105913
shion yo...
twap...
chammers...
kiar...
maririn...
noeru...

>>8085724
They're not growing as fast as IRyS did.

>>8105913
Anyone have that chart of all the hololive girls and their mental conditions?
Most of those girls are pretty fucked.

>>8105765
Pick up your prescriptions as soon as possible

>>8106036
>maririn
>twap
No, they are some of the most mentally stable people in the company.

>>8105912
Friend, he's saying that people pretend that her old channel had 1M before debut. I don't know about the people pretending part, but it is true that it was under 1M when Gura debuted.

If I recall correctly, both of her channels got 1M at about the same time desu

>>8106224
Tower took a break after Coco's graduation. Not even Kanata did and she deserved one.

>No one ever said that shit
>(You) are the history revisionists.
>People were ranting about how since guras roommate already had a million subs and an extremely distinctive voice she has an unfair advantage over the other holos who were literal whos before debut, she already had an established fanbase

>>8106285
>Tower took a break after Coco's graduation
Yeah, because one of her valued workmates left. Not a big deal, we know she's a bit emotional but at least she came to the letter reading session sober unlike Luna. Kanata lives with Coco, it's not that bad.

>>8085724
yes
kronii booba

>>8094550
It's actually quite hilarious how being behind by a number that would only be achieved in a lifetime by a indie is considered a failure in here.

>>8104930
This is completely made up. None of EN1 had 100k before debut, and Ame definitely didn't hit it before Ina

>>8104930
that's bullshit Gura has been on top since the first minute pretty much https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/4057427/

>>8085724
PLS STREAM IN EN HOURS PLS STREAM IN EN HOURS
PLS STREAM IN EN HOURS

>>8085755
black lives matter endorsement on her twitter account

>>8085724
don't tell me that's i***m****

>>8105765
History is written by the stronger rrat

>>8109715
You'll get 2 people overlapping Gura/Ame, and 3 in godforsaken EU/SEA hours.

>>8105471
MYSTERY NIJIS

>>8085827
Her design looks like it was made in koikatsu

>>8104930
lol newfag, gura was always the most popular

>>8085915
Do whites worship black people?

>>8115060
Holy shit this is the most accurate description I've seen

>>8085827
Doesn't like APEX, which is good but a debuff on holo.

>>8105665
>Think you can't have "two" career
Join Hololive can help your "other" career too

>>8089789
Isn't orcschizo a vshoujo?

>>8093184
She'd need a new voice to fit the tree.

>>8116923
if she debuts and has a sexy voice koikatsu downloaders will crash steam servers.

>>8117369
According to https://rentry.co/yue3t (I hope it is her), she tried to get into EN1, but looks like she was able to get into EN2

>>8119994
does that mean that we'll get a real vtuber rivalry for once?!

>>8085915
that's some good cope you got there, nigga

>>8094664
she'll have to try real hard to make herself as punchable as Kiara

>>8120186
Dunno. That looks like a meme "you took everything from me - i don't even know who you are" because she thought Kiara took her spot in EN1, but now she seems more chill about it. Hate and love both are types of interest, indifference is their opposite.

>>8120499
ah that sucks. imagine the kino if two chuubas actually hated each other irl!

>>8121750
We may still have smth like that (if the recent wrestling/vtubing analogy is correct), but on the other hand Cover may play it safe.

>>8085724

>>8089870
>Tranny moment

>>8116859
Only ones native to English-speaking countries.

Which one is maymay?

>>8119994
>makes fun of Kiara for being a femvolcel, implying she regularly fucks
Idc if she took her meds and backpedaled off of all her schizo ramblings, she's still a damn slut