/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Compare to Nijisanji, which has so many 2view members that most have never met anyone outside of their generation.

>>80827012
>but what about niji
mindbroken

>>80826962
No not really

>>80826962
>and has a couple of holos she hates a lot
What?

>>80826962
>>has a couple of holos she hates a lot
this never happened

>>80827061
>why don't you fall for my holohate thread?

>>80826962
>>80827061
The nijisister shrieks in anger as she gets called out

>>80826962
what kind of retarded discord headcannon is this

>>80826962
Name two holos that hate each other.

>>80827182
peko miko

>>80827182
Pekora Miko
Kanata Suisei
Gura Mori
Amelia Fuwamoco
Gura Biboo

>>80827263

>>80826962
meanwhile in nijiEN
>wow everyone is so kind, i respect this senpai alot
1 month after
>doesnt mention anyone without prompt anymore

>>80827084
>Constantly cries about Hololive being brought up in Niji bait threads
>Immediately deflects to Nijis in Holo bait threads
Why are Holofags blatant hypocrites?

>>80826962
She's talking about other talents and staff, they usually get burned out from streaming for the viewers and not by interacting with their colleagues

>>80826962
That is every workplace heavily dominated by women or female-designed social politics unless you give them space to just isolate for a while.
What is the purpose of this thread, exactly?

>>80827397
>>Constantly cries about Hololive being brought up in Niji bait threads
this never happened

>>80826962
She has a fgo account i have her in my friend list since 2018

>>80826962
The first 6-12 months are easygoing because all they do is stream when they want and what they want. They get to network with other girls and everyone will be at least cordial at first, this is the good times for any Holomem
Around the first anniversary is when the girls first start to get swamped with projects, they will participate in collabs as an obligation, they probably have long-running stream series that they want to finish but can't because they only have 1 or 2 timeslots a week that they can really plan for what they want
This is where the stress starts setting in and being part of Hololive starts feeling like a real job with time burden and performance pressure
Every single HoloEN generation has gone through this same pattern, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that's been around for a few years

>>80827459
Does she have a good lineup?

>>80827698
She have: BB (moon-cancer) 10/10/10, Altera 5/4/5, Ishtar 10/10/10, Ereshkigal 8/10/10, Francis Drake 7/6/10, Merlin 10/10/10, Jack the ripper 10/10/10, Cú chulainn 10/10/10 and Jeane alter 10/10/10

>>80826962
So, you wanna be a [Holo] Superstar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBT5yhR_2Rw

>>80827889
Look like a pretty good lineup but it's been a while since I play the game so I don't know the meta servant anymore.

>>80826962
>every holomem says this
so it should be easy for you to find 10 good JP examples, right? list please.

Choco once said members that are rarely seen together on stream are often close behind the scenes, more than you would think.

>>80827061
what happened?
isnt this what you wanted? ALL OUT WAR

>>80827579
>Around the first anniversary is when the girls first start to get swamped with projects
Nice try, Ruffian.

>>80827263
>Gura Biboo
I understand Gura doesn't stream in the first place but it's still wild that it's been almost a year since advent debut and Gura still hasn't had a single on camera interaction with ANYONE from Advent. Singling it out to just Biboo is wild Im starting to think she hates the entire gen.

>>80827012
You've got plenty of people in niji saying how great of a community it is too. The problem is nobody believes them because every single time we hear anything about Nijisanji's internal structures it's shit, and after 1-2 years they've stopped singing praises for staff entirely as they've settled into their own mostly set in stone friend group. Unless you're Kanae, then you get passed around like the bicycle he is.

>>80827263
Meh.
In such a large group of people it's only natural that not everyone is best friends with everyone else.
But thats far away from actual hate.

>>80827182
Kiara and Anya

>>80827182
Luna and Matsuri are the only real ones I know

>>80827061
>nijiniggerphasecuck holoanti makes a thread
>why are you talking about niji reeeeee
Its a mystery.

>>80827263
>Ame FEMC
Huh?

>>80826962
The only one that fits your description in holo EN is that bitch Amelia Watson, I was initially gonna include Kronii too but even her is grateful of her fans she just hate tourists.

>>80827579
>the first 6-12 months are easygoing

>>80827889
Rin face enjoyer? I will now watch this chuuba thank you.

>>80828780
you forgot stars

>>80827182
nerissa and mococo

>>80827889
>not 10/10/10'ing every ssr
it's shit

>>80828806
not sure what's crazier, that anon claiming that ame hates fwmc, or you writing fuwamoco like that

>>80828230
Her audience is hers alone and maybe the rest of myth and snot group. People often forget how EN was left on their own devices with virtually no support compared to jp and only received alot of restrictions for no reason then doing everything they can to destroy everything she built, only to then expect her to help out the company's future gens.

>>80827061
kek

>>80827061
ALL. OUT. WAR.

>>80829615
I remember hearing Bijou and Gura in the same call while playing palworld briefly but that's the only time I can think of her appearing with an Advent member.

>>80829840
ame's anniversary stream had most of advent and all of myth

>>80827012
Imagine thinking about nijisanji

>>80831023
Imagine being a fan of Nijisanji

>>80827182
Bae Nerissa
Bae Kiara
Towa Matsuri
Noel Laplus
Lamy Lui

>>80826962
name two HoloEN who hate each other

>>80827182
Kiara and Cecilia

>>80827182
Luna and Matsuri

>>80827182
Ayame, Ina, Kronii

>>80827579
Sounds like Vesper and Magni played the game perfectly

>>80828098
I think this is especially true for Marine and Mel, they have known each other for at least 15 years and collabed back in the day on NND. They both prefer to keep in touch via LINE instead of Discord on their Hololive accounts.
But when it came to actual interactions within Hololive, it came off a lot more muted then one would expect.

>>80827889
omg, he's having a stroke

>>80827397
>Quotes a post with zero mention of Niji
And so the Nijisis once agan removes her mask. To twatter with you.

>>80828687
the only correct answer. they fucking HATE each other and say so all the time

>>80827263
Can I get a QRD on these?

>>80827213
kwab

>>80826962
>pekora and miko
>matsuri and luna
These are the only two pairs in Hololive I can think of where they clearly don't like/avoid eachother
I'm curious what other examples you have.

>>80826962
Ignoring the second point since it's pretty much bullshit, do you think so many holomems are surprised by the warmth they receive because they get in their head the idea that the top vtubers are a bunch of cold primadonna bitches?

>>80829840
She did appear with all of Advent (except Shiori) in Kiara's Family Feud stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X7NRu7JXjg&t=1505s

>>80832920
>>80827263
Not interacting is not the same as "hating". Different girls have different personalities, content, and friend groups. Doesn't mean they HATE every girl they dont interact with.
Out of all the pairs listed, only Kanata Suisei, and Pekora Miko make any sense because they are both pairs that used to be close and now never interact.

>>80834172
Gura was also in prop hunt together with Advent sans Nerissa

>>80827263
QRD?

>>80827182
Fauna and Kronii, Iofi and Gura, FuwaMoco and non JP and non advent holos

>>80834239
Don't forget Matsuri and Luna
Luna went as far as deleting every archival evidence of Matsuri appearing on her channel, amongst other things to clearly show bridges are burnt

>>80834687
>Fauna and Kronii
Nah that's only on Kroniis side. Fauna still talks about Kronii and tries occasionally to talk to her in promise collabs

>>80826962
Holomem are work colleagues so yeah, you grow up hating some of them like in every job. You would know if you weren't a shitter unemployed cave basement dweller faggot.

>>80834791
Yeah I totally missed that in the post. That one of the only confirmed cases of two girls actually hating each other with evidence and everything.
Though I believe they have both moved on, and aren't angry anymore, they still dont interact.

>>80827182
Kronii and Fauna

>>80827182
Haachama and Matsuri
Pekora Miko
Kanata Suisei
Luna Matsuri
Sora Sora

>>80826962
Your genius goes unappreciated on /vt/, OP. You are are great fiction author, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>80834791
>>deleting every archival evidence of Matsuri appearing on her channel
Say what? When did that happen? The last thing i remember about festival menhera arc was paying a bunch of money making a AMV for Luna's birthday and Luna ignoring it.
>>80834849
The crab game collab was painful in that aspect. In a minigame kronni and Fauna were the only ones on a platform, but ignored each other so blatantly that was awkward. Luckily Gigi came and talked with fauna. Man that moment was awful.

>>80835522
>You are great fiction author
Me?

>>80826962
Oh no

>>80827061
Don't you have a loli to harass? Or what about Vanta? A little upset hex doesn't give a shit if you and the other sisters tear each other apart?

>>80828230
What do you mean on camera? They had that Family Feud collab.

>>80835575
You can search up deleted videos on holodex and playboard sites, Luna deleted everything on her channel that involved Matsuri, and you can find remnants of Matsuri’s POV for some of those Luna collabs on her channel.

I think the mass deletion happened sometime in early 2021

>>80839349
What did she do it?

>>80841144
Luna thought Matsuri's love/crush on her was real, but when she tried to get serious, Matsuri chickened out, and Luna was pissed.

>>80841292
well shit an actual non-petty reason

>>80826962
>after 1-2 years they're already dead inside and has a couple of coworkers she hates a lot
This happens everytime you get an actual job.

>>80826962
What else she supposed to say?

>>80827579
This makes sense. Advent is the group I could watch the time table of and it is matching this timeline with Bijou and FWMO's fall in physical health and clashing with management over stream when not well; Nerissa talking more and more issues with her chat. The only one least affected seems to be Shiori and Shiori only dips her toes in idol stuff compared to her gen mates.

Even Kiara mentioned this time period when she was interviewing all of them not long after debut, saying it's like a honeymoon period at the beginning.

>another sisters gossiping thread
none of you actually know shit what goes on behind the scenes

>>80827182
Matsuri and half of JP, pretty well documented actually considering her menhera meltdowns anytime she has a shred of conflict with another member.

>>80845048
>The only one least affected seems to be Shiori and Shiori only dips her toes in idol stuff compared to her gen mates.
I have a hard time believing that she does less "idol stuff" than Biboo. I find it more likely that her experience in vtubing and her time management skills are showing their full worth.

>>80826962
>>80827213
>>80827263
>>80828704
>>80829095
>>80832920
>>80832999
>>80833054
>>80833058
>>80834687
>>80835164
>>80846432
proof?

>>80828687
ok yeah this is canonically correct

>>80833953
I can only do the EN ones
>Gura Mori
schizo shit
>Amelia Fuwamoco
schizo shit
>Gura Biboo
schizo shit likely being peddled by the same schizo that tries to turn every thread on the catalog into a Gura-Biboo holy war. He desperately wants Pebbles and Chumbies to fight and has been trying to instigate this shit pretty much nonstop since advent debuted. Obviously there's no evidence of this one either obviously.

>>80826962
Just because you're burnt out, dead inside and dissatisfied with the higher ups doesn't mean you're gonna be a cunt to your coworkers.

>>80826962
Just like every other job, really. The more you keep to yourself and just offer basic common courtesy, the easier it gets. Statistically speaking, you can't put a bunch of women together and expect there to not be any friction. Sometimes it turns out good and the only friction is when the girls smash their vaginas and clits together to cum, but it's usually the bad kind of friction where they end up disliking one another.

bump

Its honestly pretty impressive that out of all the girsl in Hololive at this point only like a handful have OBJECTIVELY, obviously and clearly let it slip that they are fighting/dislike eachother. Cover is doing something right, or they just miraculously hired friendly girls.
Even if Like theoritcally, lets say I give the antis a chance and suppose that "the girls all secretly hate each other!!!!!!" then isnt that also impressive that Hololive keeps a bunch of girls that hate eachother to keep it so completely private for all these years?

>>80832920
>Towa Matsuri
It's been a while since I've seen them interact, so I don't know if anything has changed, but their relationship struck me more like that friend you like to push the buttons of, but will stop if you know it genuinely bothers them. One of Matsuri's big things being her lewd-based humor and showering "affection" on someone else, both of which are things that make Towa gag. She never seemed to truly hate it, just get peeved.

>>80827397
NTA but Niji should stop comparing itself to Hololive you don't even talk about thr good male Nijis who mog the shit out of all of NijiEN.

>>80851535
Many JP from other organizations thought it was sus that everyone in Hololive is friendly. Takes a while to get used to. They came from dog-eat-dog organizations. Everyone for themselves. Forming cliques and encouraging bullying. With Hololive providing good support; not shunning those that aren't doing as well. You have a happy organization. Where a runt can climb in time. With the money going back to the talents, a win for their top star is a win for everyone.

>>80852548
It helps that the bare minimum support a Holo gets is insane compared to the closest competition. You can't really get left behind unless you have other pursuits besides streaming.

>>80828230
Has it occurred to you that Gura, who we know for a fact is shy as a given from the people in Cover that have met her, is shy

>>80853741
/vt/ doesnt understand shy people. Too many normalfags on this board

>>80828872
Being stuck by yourself in a project with terrible management will do that to you.

>>80828687
>>80833876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyGFNTsx9R8

I wish I understood what led to this pretty great video I feel like I am outside an inside joke

>>80853741
Kiara tardwangles her because she's that shy and can't function properly around people she doesn't know.

>>80851535
The thing is that in a company like hololive there are no advantages in "hating other members", it is either friends, the "friendly members that I talk once in a while" or simply coworkers who neither speak nor know each other. There are many projects involving other members, you don't want to be in bad terms with anyone or it could affect those events. And the retards that at some point had fights took everything in a private way or they just pretend like the other person doesn't exist

>>80854346
Oh I know. Kiara is the fucking glue holding Myth together at this point.

>>80828230
Gura used to mostly collab with Council. It's noble of her to go back to Myth collabs, keeping them from being overshadowed by all the new debuts.
Gura is going nowhere. Future collabs with others will happen.

>Why doesn't Gura, who tends to overshadow whoever she's collabing with whether she likes it or not, who also suffers from imposter syndrome, not want to collab with a new gen?

>>80826962
Who is the most SEX of the new Holobatch and why is it Raora? Why is she so unfair to the rest of her gen with how much SEX she is? I don't believe in the pizza and pasta buffs.

>>80835575
kronii and fauna time stamp?

>>80857000
About 1:01 from Fauna's perspective on the Crab Game stream

>>80826962
>Holo vs holo
>Immediately lashes out when someone points out how much worse Nijisanji is
You tried, Nijicuck.

>>80855051
Myth have good unity and most of their issues have always been with management.

>>80857577
jeez what happened

>>80857577 (me)
This would be totally unremarkable between anyone else, but particularly last year, Kronii and Fauna were buddies. They did an offcollab at Fauna's home, they set up that Getting Over It stream even though Kronii doesn't even play the game, she just wanted to have fun with the gen. Even in Kiara's easter egg hunt last year, she kept calling them out for messing around. To have them just not acknowledge each other at all is actually pretty odd and more concrete than any other rrat in here.

>>80827182
All of Myth and kiara

>>80858791
We don't know. There's many rrats, but not real explanation.

This thread is really interesting. It's like watching people make up schizo shit in real time.

>>80833054
Theyve made up idiot, luna wished her a happy birthday

>>80826962
Ok? And is this supposed to be a yab?

Does the people on this board have so little experience with other people that they don't know it's impossible for a everyone to be honest friends with everyone in a group 100 people, without any friction?

What utopia are you living in in your head? This is a communit known for containing the mentally ill.

>>80859146 (me)
Sorry for being a bit tipsy, holy fuck I spell like an ESL.

>>80859203
>Tipsy
>5:48 ET on a Tuesday
Rough day anon?

>>80859146
Why do you space everything out like that anon

>>80859284
The EU bros in the call are drinking, so of course I have to join them.
.>>80859436
Idk, ask the wine and mead.

>>80858568
Myth seem to get along pretty well. The only thing that seems to get in the way is that 3/5 of them are pretty insular people

>>80854102
>I wish I understood what led to this pretty great video I feel like I am outside an inside joke
They somehow never ended up having collabs even tho they get along well (iirc they also met when kiara went to indonesia), so somehow rrats started spreading that they hated each other and they leaned into it.

>>80858882
Wasn’t there even a Promise collab with Fauna’s pseudo-TTRPG thing where they were all together? Were there even any odd moments between them then? If there’s a spat going on between them, it’s incredibly recent.

>>80859691
Myth is more
>Gura nd Ame are both extremer autistic and paranoid about doing anything tog their that might let people find them"
>Mura is always doing like 10 million things at once
>Ina I could see them just finding her dead in her home one time after wonder why she wasn't talking
>Chicken is European

>everyone says this,
>everyone is like this
In your head maybe

>>80860372
>Mura is always doing like 10 million things at once
I somehow combined Gura nd Mori into one person

>>80859715
To add to the "not collabing" part, it was true for the first couple years, where the only time they talked was during birthday call-ins, promising to collab but they never did. Eventually people noticed, and they noticed too, and it became a running joke between them, which turned into the THEY HATE EACH OTHER joke.

>>80860300
I’m pretty sure there was absolutely nothing unusual in that collab but by that time people were already shitposting about it

>>80860300
Yes there was. Kronii participated quietly and seemed fairly bored. Mostly Mumei and Irys stole the show so Kronii didn't have to do much. The only weird thing was Kronii saying she was in her "villain arc" with no context, but then, that is a very Kronii thing to do.

>>80857577
Wait what the fuck? I just checked the timestamp and it's so awkward. I always thought the rrat between them was the usual /vt/ schizo rambling but now i believe it

>>80862104
>Kronii saying she was in her "villain arc" with no context
The context is she was very angry about Cover EN management at that time and throwing shade about them on twitter so it's easy to understand

>>80862198
Right? 99% of the time this stuff is so dismissible but this one has merit. Watching Fauna pan over to Kronii and then pan away was kinda sad honestly.

>>80862594
Was kronii moody and off in her own world with other members too or was it just that moment with fauna

>>80832920
I love how you guys project your broken families onto Japanese puppet shows

>>80862198
Kronii was dealing with audio issues + the stream was about interacting with Justice.

>>80826962

>>80826962
That's just what working at a company is like. I loved my company in the beginning and now I work from home and fuck if I ever want to see them again.

>>80827182
only non meme answer is that matsuri is basically a black sheep in the company, probably because she's a sex pest

>>80862293
Kronii believed that being nice wasn't getting her anywhere with management. Japanese companies are big on corporate hierarchy but they will treat employees like door mats if they never complain.

>>80862104
If Kronii was feeling down and cross at management, Fauna might have just left her alone to avoid bothering her since she wasn't in the mood for fun group stream shtick.

It's just as likely as them suddenly starting to dislike each other.