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80051603 No.80051603 [Reply] [Original]

So it wasn't actually a joke. Filian paid nothing for her model cause she rip it off of VRChat.
How fucked is she?

>> No.80051638

nobody in america cares about this shit guys. stop spamming.

>> No.80051666

>>80051638
t. Filian

>> No.80051671

>>80051638
>nobody
I believe Filian might care, actually.

>> No.80051678

>>80051666
no i'm white

>> No.80051680
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80051680

uh oh

>> No.80051695

>>80051603
Who?

>> No.80051696

>>80051603
she literally said "illegally"
how many flips does she need to do for this to go away kek

>> No.80051765

>>80051680
Oy vey it’s joever

>> No.80051778

>>80051680
kek

>> No.80051795

>>80051603
based

>> No.80051817

>>80051603
dang that twitter creature is unhinged. what is wrong with sisters mentally? how did they end up like this?

>> No.80051819

>>80051671
she does but nobody else will. this isn't japan. nobody gives a shit if a creator has a disagreement with some artist. you're acting like this is the end of the world when worse shit happened to project melody and nobody even remembers that.

>> No.80051824

>>80051680
Well...

>> No.80051838

>>80051680
Community notes are one of the few good things the man of musks has done to X, formerly Twitter.

>> No.80051854

>>80051696
Not gonna lie, boss, this is gonna take a lot of flips

>> No.80051869

>>80051838
It feels like fpbp. OP posts a dumb shit and the note btfo them

>> No.80051902

>>80051696
She'll need to flip on the cock of the best lawyer, at least 3 times

>> No.80051913

>>80051680
yabai

>> No.80051923

>>80051638
Nobody exept your laws fucking retard. God i hate american pretending all sort of thing when their laws are as bad if not worse than other country, can we talk about burgerland music copyright autism for exemple? Or do that hurt your retarded ass to much? well sad for you i already drop the subject so dilate as much as you have to.

>> No.80051945

>>80051603
Would she have even needed to pay the original artist anything if she had gotten their permission?

>> No.80051949

>>80051603
People will remember her as stingy Pagpag

>> No.80051962

So what? Are you implying that installing mods into a video game and playing it is disrespectful to its creators? Western content creators do their utmost to turn Japanese garbage into top-notch entertainment.
In fact, nobody knew anything about this model until she used it, right?

>> No.80051976

So this is copyright infringement right, and she'll be imprisoned if proven guilty?
She not only pirated it, she also illegally distributed it to her fans.

>> No.80051999

>>80051680
>community noting month old tweets
Holy obsessed

>> No.80052001

The ride never ends

>> No.80052010

>>80051680
lmao.

>> No.80052014

>>80051976
Is there no fair use law in SEA?

>> No.80052040

>>80051945
That would depend on the result of the negotiation. The owner only said he must be contacted first.

>> No.80052045

>>80051838
Is his own account still protected from them?

>> No.80052051
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>>80051603

>> No.80052055
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A Japanese tweet TL the whole thing is also trending so many japs are hearing about Filian for the first time.

>> No.80052062

>>80051923
>the time when the riaa tried to sue limewire for more money than even exists on earth
funniest shit I ever saw

>> No.80052070
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>>80051603
SAINT FLOYD IS NO LAUGHING MATTER!

>> No.80052088

>>80051603
Cancel Filian!! CANCEL HER!!!!

>> No.80052099

>>80051603
Thank fuck this annoying ass bitch might finally shut up for a while

>> No.80052101

>>80051603
And to think this started because of a nendroid... I'm fucking confused as to why they didn't mention this before it happened. She clearly stole it and illegally made it hers but apparently no one gave a shit until the nendroid product came out. Why are twittards so fucking retarded

>> No.80052119

>>80051923
every single person i know has been stealing music for their entire lives. my buddy literally used to steal music then upload it to youtube. nobody cares.

>> No.80052124

>>80051680
what a shameless whore
i hope the 2 artists sues her brown ass

>> No.80052126

>>80052070
Isn't it funny how whenever some guy becomes a tranny, he's still attracted to women? really activates my almonds

>> No.80052133

>>80052101
Because everyone thought the original creator gave her permission. How can you predict this level of stupidity?

>> No.80052180

>>80052133
Because she literally admitted it lots of times and no one batted an eye or lent an ear. Someone clipped an unlisted video of her mentioning it and now everyone is shit flinging. That is mental retardation in itself.

>> No.80052185

>>80052119
very true, the people jumping on filian are plainly hypocrites. we all know what this is really about

>> No.80052218

>>80051680
GG's She's cooked.

>> No.80052241

>>80052133
Then why did he keep quiet until this product was released, even though he had many opportunities to warn her?

>> No.80052242

>>80052180
Let me put it in a better way

Before this:
>I stole the model chat
>kek classic fil
After this:
>I stole the model chat
>maybe she's that retarded

>> No.80052255

>>80052126
They have usurped womens spaces and dating apps, but weirdly enough all the porn they fap to strnagely has biological women.
Also there was a fun chart once showing dating preferences, troons don't even want to date one another.

>> No.80052271

>>80052180
Her fans are parasocial fucks like this guy >>80052185

>> No.80052290

>>80052241
He didn't even know Filian existed until people DM'd him asking if he'd given permission. This is a model used by thousands of people.

>> No.80052293

>>80052241
Filian is a literal who, nobody knows who she is in Japan. Japanese literally discovered her today and are calling her a criminal.

>> No.80052316

>>80052180
she also said she's filipino and doesn't pay taxes and smokes crack.
>>80052185
it's the number people trying to get revenge for her popularity. the number islands are greatly concerned over copyright and permissions.

>> No.80052319

>>80052055
but.,. I thought fillian is the biggest indie vtuber ever? why are people recently just discovering her including the artist himself? This must be lie!

>> No.80052322

>>80052255
>troons don't even want to date one another.
this is one of the few things i cant blame them for

>> No.80052356

>>80052293
>Filian is a literal who, nobody knows who she is in Japan
There are people on this board who have been browsing for years and never watched a Filian stream. Maybe a short or two would have passed by, but you'd be surprised at how small streamers are.

>> No.80052374

>>80052241
People frequenting /vt/ don't even know let alone watch this literal who. /lig/ is a containment for corpo rejects you know.

>> No.80052386

>>80052126
I've seen some psychologist guy share his theory that it's the fault of porn.
Now mind he said there always existed transsexuals, even "gay" ones, but the recent surge of mtf comes from them watching porn since they are 10 and the women often exaggerating their pleasure, leading to them feeling like they got left out and fucks up their brain chemistry. He compared it to people being more open to trying drugs when they see people around them having fun with them.

>> No.80052408

>>80051999
Her antis are not going to let this opportunity slip, they're probably looking for older tweets to note as we speak.

>> No.80052413

Ahaha guys like nobody cares about this, right? Right? Maybe only browns care? They must be falseflagging Nijisisters!

>> No.80052421

>>80052290
>>80052293
Filian has more subscribers than Gura, and since he works so close to the Vtuber industry, the assumption that he didn't know about her is, to say the least, nonsense.

>> No.80052454

>>80052413
everyone knows it's you holobro

>> No.80052456
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>>80052421
>he works so close to the Vtuber industry
He doesn't, stop opening your mouth if you don't know shit.

>> No.80052461

>>80052242
At this point everyone is just two-faced as hell why even bother being nice at this point if it's easier throwing someone under the bus and joining the bandwagon. Fuck this society.

>> No.80052472

>>80052421
>since he works so close to the Vtuber industry,
He makes and sells models for VRchat. He is not related to Vtubers beyond them using his model.

>> No.80052475

>>80052119
Who ever earned money with stolen music your retard.
If you go and listen to your pirated copy of "The world we knew" nobody cares, but if you open a danceclub and play pirated "nothing but the beat" copies you deserve to be put out of business.

>> No.80052526

>>80052119
Flip?

>> No.80052536

>>80052475
>Who ever earned money with stolen music your retard.
almost every streamer. nice english btw.
>>80052526
i'm american.

>> No.80052627

>>80052536
>almost every streamer.
And they all deserve to get fucked for it.

>> No.80052640

>>80052070
I just checked her twitch and she's an artist and model rigger, way more respectable than Filian who literally brags about pirating models.

>> No.80052666

>>80052640
>her
im not watching your stream faggot

>> No.80052670

>>80052536
Wasn't there a huge ruckus over Twitch streamers playing copyrighted music on stream a year ago?
>>80052640
A troon is less respectable than a pig.

>> No.80052674

>>80052454
I don't actually watch vtubers, I'm a tourist that got linked to this social media site yesterday from Reddit and is now shitting on it straight from catalog.

>> No.80052689

>>80052627
yet here you are, on a board for streamers, made specifically for the biggest vtuber group who literally ignored copyright for their first 3 years of operation.

>> No.80052690

>>80051923
music copyright exists outside of youtube takedowns brownie

>> No.80052714

>>80052674
your cool
your still a faggot but a cool faggot

>> No.80052719

>>80051603
There is no need for the West to take into consideration the outdated Japanese practice of "creators are better than content creators".

>> No.80052729

>>80052640
You will never be a woman

>> No.80052743

>>80052421
And now she has nothing kek

>> No.80052756

>>80052640
pronoun tranny = shit tier by default
so no

>> No.80052786

>>80052719
Say that again but to the American music industry.

>> No.80052797

>>80052640
>who literally brags about pirating models.
how is that a bad thing?

>> No.80052811

>>80052670
>huge ruckus
huge in the dramafag community. had no impact in the real world besides making streamers remove music from their archives.

>> No.80052817

When you have no problem destroying your own gear for "comedic" purposes and spending thousands of dollars to replace it but can't be assed to pay a few hundreds to an artist to make an unique model for you then it's a clear statement.

>> No.80052820

>>80052670
>Twitch streamers playing copyrighted music
Since there is no VOD on Twitch, streamers can play whatever music they want during the stream and Twitch has recently implemented a system of paying royalties to musicians.

>> No.80052833

>>80052536
>almost every streamer
Yeah and either they have to take down the stream afterwards or parts of the stream gets muted or edited out. So nobody has to deal with the headache of copyright. Why do you think so many chuubas use copyright, royalty-free BGMs? Cause music companies would sooner fuck you in the ass enforcing their copyright rather than lose it.

>> No.80052843

>>80052786
In what way is the American Music Industry the copyright hell that you perceive

>> No.80052854

>>80052670
>>80052729
It's an actual woman this time ironically enough.

>> No.80052857

>noo you have to buy my shitty model because... YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY?!
Filian is the most gigachad vtuber ever. artniggers get FUCKED

>> No.80052878

>>80052843
foreigners read those ancient stories of the few people who got sued for like a million bucks for using limewire and think that's still the norm.

>> No.80052876

>>80052536
Asian American?

South East Asian American?

>> No.80052888

>>80051638
FPBP and I'm not even Fillian

>> No.80052889

>>80052857
Filian is a retarded who can't read.

>> No.80052894
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80052894

I feel compelled to support Filian against trannies.

>> No.80052918

>>80052797
I don't know, ask Filian kek.

>> No.80052926

>>80052857
heck yeah stealing is so based fellow white man!

>> No.80052939

>>80052894
Don’t use Mumei to hide

>> No.80052952

>>80052889
You will have your IP stolen
You will have someone else make money from your IP
You WILL enjoy it

>> No.80052953

>>80052876
i'm from amish country my dude. need a 2 hour drive to see anything but white.

>> No.80052967

>>80052894
On one hand, I hate trannies on the other a person who is too retarded to read a TOS with fucking pictures deserves to lose all their money.

>> No.80052987

>>80052926
so you've never pirated software before? Or are you a hypocritical fag

>> No.80053001

>>80052952
You will lose your money because your literacy is lower than a 6 years old
You will lose all of your major sponsorship
You will lose any possibility of expanding your brand overseas

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>>80051680
How dare someone use a slightly modified design and pass it off as their own!

>> No.80053046

>>80052987
Stealing is based. Stealing and making money out of it is nigger behavior. Show hand.

>> No.80053069

>>80052857
It's one thing to pirate it for private use.
But earning money from it and bragging about it?
Literally retarded behavior

>> No.80053097
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>>80053017
She actually didn't modify it at all. All the assets came with the package.

>> No.80053104

>>80052055
https://x.com/cid_vrc/status/1809427516664218000

Welp, they've covered pretty much everything.

>youtooz figure
>gamersupps cups
>makeship plush
>that one racing game collab

I hope she started lawyering up.

>> No.80053107

>>80052126
>>80052255
Autogynephilia does that to you. If someone loves the concept of women so much to the point of wishing to have a body that resembles their idea of one, then clearly that person will only be attracted to them and not to men.

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>>80053017
Pic related is "Filian", its the files you get when you buy Rindo
They're completely unaltered and not modified in any way

>> No.80053141

>>80053017
I was going to defend her but >>80053097 >>80053111
lmao bitch can't even bother, deserves to lose all of her fucking money.

>> No.80053161

>>80052386
Ray Blanchard

>> No.80053165

>>80052953
>snackers are inbred retards
I see…

>> No.80053166

>>80053046
>Stealing and making money out of it is nigger behavior.
This is the type of shit those dumb emo bitches in high school used to say when they stole things from the local walgreens.

>> No.80053193

>>80052857
How did white people go from oil paintings and sculptures to this?

>> No.80053223

>>80053165
i don't watch filian i'm just here to make fun of foreign newfags who don't remember the holocaust.

>> No.80053224

>>80053166
Hand now.

>> No.80053229

>>80052894
basted turkey

>> No.80053255

>>80053193
You think that anon is white?

>> No.80053273

>>80052857
yeah brother stealing is a very white person thing to do I also eat hotdogs and steal things every day

>> No.80053275

>>80053111
>>80053097
They won't even need to go to court because all the evidence are pretty damning.
Jingo and the other artist can retire early while Filian has to work for their gibs for the rest of her life.

>> No.80053286

>>80052689
And now they're know for taking copyright seriously while you call them "cucked" for doing so.

>> No.80053292

>>80053001
Can't sue for anything besides real damages if you never registered in America. There are zero real damages because Rindo did not suffer financially from Fillian being a vtuber.
Also, fuck artfags.
>Verification not required.

>> No.80053298

>>80053255
You think Filian's audience isn't?

>> No.80053308

>>80051603
>dont consider me for art or vtuber rigging

>check his twitter
>his work is literal shit
lmao this tranny

>> No.80053329

Piracy is based, what is not based is getting caught because you are too retarded to read the ToS of the model you have been using for years. Stupidity deserves to be punished.

>> No.80053331

>>80052055
That's one thing I can't stand about Internet Japs. Even when they're right or even justified, they go schizo in a way that makes western schizos blush.

>> No.80053346

>Creators make the game.
>Content creators stream it.
>Audience gets interested in the game.
>Creators respect content creators as influencers.
This is correct, right? So let's replace "the game" with "Filian's model"?

>> No.80053372

>>80053292
Please don't use your brain ever again if that's the best you can come up with Jamal.

>> No.80053397

>>80053298
Yes

>> No.80053404

>>80053346
>Creators make the game
>This is MY game do anything you want with it
>>80051680

>> No.80053421

>>80051603
Just watched the clip, this is legit not a good look, Filian better start paying out and making rounds to apologize to salvage this. Do not be a spazz like Nijisanji and make yourself a pariah.

>> No.80053440

>>80053275
lol, they can't get a dime out of her, they don't even know english

>> No.80053449

>>80053346
How bout no?

>> No.80053458

>>80053224
Darker than night, if you're not making money off a crime you're a genuine fool and deserve to get mugged by a real hustler/shot by some pajeet at 7/11

>> No.80053462

The permfags don't seem to know that westerners don't have fax machines anymore lmaoooo

>> No.80053490

>>80053346
You left out that streamers aren't making merch out of those games' IP.

>> No.80053489

>>80053346
they still have to buy the game otherwise it becomes piracy. to monetize it, they still need to contact the publisher behind the game otherwise it becomes infringement.

>> No.80053495

>>80053458
If you get caught you deserve to rot in jail latinx retard.

>> No.80053531

>>80053275
Even if Filian gives the artists 100% of what she has earned from merch, she would still have enough money to retire tomorrow and never work another day in her life.

>> No.80053533

>>80053397
Why didn't they cancel her when she made the george floyd joke then?
Why do they always react negatively to jokes made at the expense of white people and positively to jokes made at the expense of minorities?

>> No.80053543

>>80053489
>otherwise it becomes infringement.
rare that publishers ever try to enforce that in the usa, because it would lose them business from getting accused of jewery

>> No.80053545

>>80053495
the same applies to someone not making money idiot

>> No.80053551

>>80053193
classical oil paintings and sculptures aren't comparable to some low poly count unity asset

>> No.80053569

>>80052894
>I'm a tribalist incapable of having any personal standards

>> No.80053597

>>80053490
I see various streamers doing it. They'll have Elden Ring T-shirt merch or something. That said, I don't know the licensing specifics there.

>> No.80053604

>>80053329
there's legit no avenue for the artfag to get anything out of Fillian.

>> No.80053620

>>80053346
Yeah let's make completely retarded analogies to save Mizkif's cocksleeve.

>> No.80053619

>>80053286
and as we all know hololive completely died so it's over for filian.

>> No.80053636

>>80053545
It's harder to get caught if you don't go the extra mile of saying you stole in plain sight while saying the thing you stole is yours now.

>> No.80053640

>>80053533
they tried, nobody cared fililan never talked about it

it fits the narrawtive, because everytign wrong must be the fault of x and if u dissagree ur "insert word here"

>> No.80053653

>>80053531
Does filian have all the money she earned from "Filian"? You do know that if she pirated the model we arent talking about just merch sales right?
You best be praying from the bottom of your soul to every god out there that she still has the receipt to that sale because if she doesn't well, I'm sure you are smart enough to figure it out

>> No.80053654

>>80053490
Filian's model is partially modified from the original one.
This is the equivalent of a mod in a game, and she only sold the mod.

>> No.80053671

>>80053346
Think of it as selling copies of the game copy that you bought for $40. Streaming it is totally fine, selling it involves licensing.

>> No.80053693

>>80053654
Mods can be taken down depending on the ToS of the game.

>> No.80053695

>>80053569
>tribalist
Of belonging to the 7 billion member tribe that won't mutilate children's genitals??
Yeah, I'll join that tribe.

>> No.80053701

>>80053551
And yet it's still too much for Filian and her audience, though I can't blame her audience since they're mostly talentless 12-16 y/o kids.

>> No.80053705

>>80053654
It wasn't modified at all whatsoever. She changed no colors or anything on it
>>80053097
>>80053111

>> No.80053738

>>80053619
I wasn't aware hololive based their entire brand on copyrighted characters and only changed them later.
You sure do learn something new every day on this board.

>> No.80053744

>>80053654
She sold the mod with the game. Modding usually gets around this by only selling the mod, but she can't exactly do that.

>> No.80053774

It would be legit funny if Good Smile repackages the nendo as Mint and Fillian gets no money from it.

>> No.80053794

>>80053695
Americans mutilate their children's genitals as do all the muslims and jews

>> No.80053803

>>80053653
Doesn't matter, foreign copyright holders can't sue for statutory damages, only actual damages. They can't even get court fees without a domestic copyright.

>> No.80053812

>>80053738
they based their entire brand around streaming video games and singing songs without the legal rights to stream those games and sing those songs. now they're fucking dead. oh wait they aren't and nobody even knows about it now. zzzz

>> No.80053814

>>80053640
Kek, your typing style completely degraded, are you ok?

>they tried
Those weren't Filian's fans, those were the same antis who are now having a field day with her fuck up.

>> No.80053823

>>80053654
More like
>Buy a figurine
>The figurine comes with 4 different expressions
>Put on expression number 3
>"This is my own creation :) I'm gonna resell it for 10x the price"

>> No.80053886

>>80053654
Does not work like that. You cant take someones mod, changes something and sell it. You still need perms from the original maker.

>> No.80053888

Too many Fillian Fags that defending a cleary wrong move by her.
You love to see it, lmao

>> No.80053891

>>80053812
>they based their entire brand around streaming video games and singing songs without the legal rights to stream those games and sing those songs.
But they didn't do that. There's no "I play game X without the rights to do so" vtuber in hololive.

>> No.80053894

>>80053653
I don't see much argument Jingo could have that he is entitled to Filian's donations, sponsorship money or ad revenue.
Then again, there is precedent with Elvis impersonators being shaken down by his estate, so maybe you're right. by virtual of clown world.

>> No.80053904

>>80053794
I'm intact. Everyone I know is intact. And jews are part of the tranny tribe, they are behind the activism even.

>> No.80053912

>>80053812
The copyright shit was probably even worse than the chink incident. And easily one of the worst yabs Holo has gone through. They really risked losing everything over that shit and we are talking about Hololive, Filian is one person not a corpo.

>> No.80053923

>>80051817
Ever since the nijibubble burst, all the twitter troons are out for blood to show all vtuber is le bad.

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>>80053774

>> No.80053940

>>80053774
It would be Rindo in this case. Mint is the base for the "Lil' Fil" model.

>> No.80053964

>>80053891
>I'm new
do your reps you fucking idiot

>> No.80053974

>>80053904
If everyone is intact in America why do Americans always fervently defend getting mutilated?

>> No.80053979

>>80053894
You lose all rights to any kind of monetization if you pirated or stole the product. She owes him everything she earned as filian if thats the case and as I said. You better pray she has the receipts

>> No.80053980

>>80053891
you're acting like she has no rights to the model at all. she does. she can stream with it fine. the only issue is that she sold merch with it. she will pay the artist a settlement, get a new model, then it's done. quit being a retarded baby.

>> No.80054005

>>80053823
She didn’t even go that far. It’s literally just the base model she stole for free.

>> No.80054031

>>80053774
There's no nendo.
At best they had concept art of it.

>> No.80054081

>>80053964
Tell me which hololive member is entirely based around playing or singing a specific game or song they didn't have rights to.

>>80053980
She doesn't have rights to the model as she didn't even buy it.

>> No.80054084

>>80053814
i have the tism

>> No.80054085

>>80053974
It's gaslighting to trick europeans into doing it

>> No.80054109

>>80052640
I dont even know what this drama is, but the side with the tranny is wrong.

>> No.80054117

>>80053980
She has no rights to the model because she pirated it. Only people who buy the model on Booth have rights to use it.

>> No.80054126

>>80053671
Have you ever watched Jurassic Park? If you have, remember why in the movie, the staff had to insert reptilian genes into the dinosaur genes?
The answer is for copyright protection. The original dinosaur genes are not copyrighted, but the park's dinosaur genes can be copyrighted by the company.

So, since Filian improved the original model, the copyright of her model is definitely hers.

>> No.80054151

>>80051603
I wish these weasels would stop pretnding that they're doing something noble, or principaled and just admit that they're addicted to internet blood sports.

>> No.80054165

>>80054081
>>80054117
>she didn't even buy it.
she did. she even bought extra outfits for it. you got baited by a joke.

>> No.80054171

>>80054109
Both sides have a tranny statistically speaking.

>> No.80054191

>>80053812
>>>based their entire brand around streaming video games and singing songs without the legal rights to stream those games and sing those songs.
>Mio nearly lost her channel because of copyright strikes
>Have to make sure going into the future EVERYONE has perms for the games they want to stream
>Make unarchived karaoke streams that aren't monetized when the girls want to sing songs they cannot sing.

>> No.80054195

>>80054126
Someone must have injected those same genes into your brain jesus fuck.

>> No.80054219

>>80053894
Her stealing the model in the first place would be the argument for receiving more than just compensation for the merch. She is profiting off of stolen IP, making deals with companies using stolen IP. That’s a pretty big fucking deal.

>> No.80054228

>>80054165
Where's the proof that she paid?

>> No.80054260

>>80054228
same place where you find the proof that she stole it.

>> No.80054291
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>>80054165
You got receipts for that?

>> No.80054295

>>80053980
She has no rights to stream with it. She had to pay 40 bucks but she couldn’t even do that.

>> No.80054317

>>80051603
I think the rules were that you can use the model however you want but merch. So she can still use it for streaming but if she wants merch and stuff then she'll need to hire an artist to make an original one.

>> No.80054320

>>80054126
Don't use your brain ever again, please. Spare the entire world from your retardation.

>> No.80054325

>>80054260
So you're claiming there's a clip of her saying she bought outfits? Let's see it.

>> No.80054360
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>> No.80054361

>>80054165
No she didn’t.

>> No.80054368

>>80053940
Thought Rindo was the modeller's name.
I stand corredcted.

>> No.80054395

>>80054317
If she wants merch she can just ask Jingo permission. The fact she has never contacted him before is baffling.

>> No.80054415
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>>80053654
i made this post

>> No.80054421

>>80054291
>>80054295
>>80054325
>>80054361
she says retarded shit all the time. >>80052316

>> No.80054459

>>80054260
Proof next thread?

>> No.80054483

>>80053979
>She owes him everything she earned
nope, he isn't registered in a domestic copyright office, he can't get any of it. She also used the mint model more than 3 years ago, that's beyond the statute of limitations for copyright claims.

>> No.80054487

>>80054421
Does she have the receipt that she bought the model, yes or no
Simple fucking question

>> No.80054492

>>80054421
So her very specific origin story was just a "joke" as well? It obviously wasn't.

>> No.80054497

so who kills who first mythic nijisanji'ing fillian or fillian killing mythic before they can even unperson her

>does a flip
bankrupts asmongold and nyanners

based

>> No.80054501

>>80054415
Can I make a nendo of it?

>> No.80054525

>>80054421
>she says retarded shit all the time.
Not just say kek.

>> No.80054559

>>80054497
>bankrupts asmongold and nyanners
I would become her biggest fan if she managed to do this.

>> No.80054571

>>80054487
if she did you would never see it, what a weird question
>>80054492
do you think luna is actually a princess

>> No.80054570

>>80054487
If she did she wouldnt hide because this shit >>80054360
How convenient that she cancels her scheduled stream because her pc broke

>> No.80054573

>>80053329
I've no issue with piracy against multimillion dollar companies, not a fan when it's against independent artists.

>> No.80054599

>>80054165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63kh-N_BECk&t=60s
she really loves this joke

>> No.80054610

>>80054291
Someone in /flip/ said she received Rindo as a gift. Of course, I don't know if that's the truth, but it's worth considering.

>> No.80054635

I can't believe my favorite vtuber turned out too be an asshole. Color me shocked!

>> No.80054636

>>80054501
Hi, this is Filian's manager. If you want to make merch of her for conventions, go for it. (My manager is me)

>> No.80054658

>>80054571
Why do you keep moving the goalpost? Are you feeling nervous? I bet you're going to call someone a "sister" real soon with the way things are going for you.

>> No.80054663

>>80054497
You're mixing up Nyanners and Shylily, those fuck ups are entirely Filian's fault, she can't drag Mythic with her.

>> No.80054710

>>80054610
You do know thats even worse right? Go read the tos and what it says about 3rd parties.
I'm going to assume you are a nijifag skinwalking as /flip/ to make them look completely fucking retarded

>> No.80054713

>>80053346
By playing through the games and adding commentary it arguably falls under transformative work. The streamers still can't then go ahead and sell their own merch of the games. Also worth remembering that until about 14-15 years ago even Western game companies were copyright striking early letsplays on YouTube.

>> No.80054725

>>80054658
>I bet you're going to call someone a "sister" real soon
projecting

>> No.80054731

>>80054636
Filian’s manager is dumb

>> No.80054737

>>80054599
>mint model
The one she doesn't use anymore?

>> No.80054742

>rip model off a software (thousands do it)
>somehow expected to know it is bound to some esoteric contract
>claimant of said model comes with fists swinging years after trying to cash in after you've made it
How would you even fucking know the model is behind booth ToS if you ripped it from a completely unrelated software

>> No.80054745
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80054745

Why do commie uphold intellectual property but when I come for my rent as a landlord they cry about me owning the land aka property .Curious.. Rent will be going up because of this

>> No.80054748

>>80054421
>>80054571
You're even lower than trannies, at least they have receipts.

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>>80054737
For a model she doesn't use she sure loves making money off it (never received permission to sell this plushie)

>> No.80054838

>>80054725
Several of you faggots have been going around this board claiming this is all "fake drama" drummed up by "sisters".

>> No.80054855

>>80054742
So your best defense for her is that she is retarded?

>> No.80054869

>>80054748
funny you used they because there are multiple artists mad at filian over a single model, that's how you know this is bullshit lol

>> No.80054899

>>80054742
By having more than 1 digit IQ.

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>>80054828

>> No.80054917

>>80054742
Do those thousands also make those models they ripped into their personal brand that they sell merch of?

>> No.80054920

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbmYkcsUTXg&t=5s

>I'm so glad that you like this model that I paid 0 dollars for and i'm using for free
What did she mean by this?

>> No.80054976

i blame maidos for this. children shouldn't be /here/ in the first place. it's beyond me why they have their own general and are encouraged to post their nonsense. just ban any mention of her site wide and be done with it.

>> No.80054988

>>80054838
i am one man, not multiple, but yes it is fake drama, and if you care you are a woman. sorry.

>> No.80055000

>>80054742
>esoteric contract
It's not the necronomicon. I found it in under a minute and read it in less time.

>> No.80055006

>>80054920
Anon it's a joke she obviously paid for it and has all the rights.

>> No.80055035 [SPOILER] 
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>>80054085
The overwhelming majority of Europeans don't do it though.

>> No.80055036

>>80055006
Can we see proof of that?

>> No.80055037

>>80054828
Was the "Mint" VRChat model made by the same artist who made the "Rindo" model? How many people did she scam?

>> No.80055063

>>80054571
She mentioned learning how to rip models found in VRChat from a tutorial made by Girl_dm. That doesn't sound like some sort of fictional anecdote.

>> No.80055073

>>80054988
You are starting to sound like the nijisisters.

>> No.80055077

>>80054988
Concession accepted.

>> No.80055112

>>80055037
No thats another model that she uses and probably stole. 2 that we know and we are waiting for the confirmation of the 3rd one

>> No.80055128

>>80055006
Holy cope, seriously stop this is fucking embarrassing.

>> No.80055146

>>80054126
lmfao this is amazing. I really hope you posted this completely seriously and it's not a shitpost.

>> No.80055180

>>80053107
Then why do they not shut the fuck up about videogames? Surely if you want to be a woman you would be happy you can play a cute woman i a game, instead we have ugly women and then calls for how the need to be transexual instead of simply women.

>> No.80055187

>>80054742
>Googled "rindou jingo"
>Click the first link and read
Wow it's that easy

>> No.80055208

>>80054742
It comes in a nice cartoon diagram anon.
You sell goods, you contact the artist.
Surely it is easy enough for you to understand?

>> No.80055226

>>80055037
No, that's a different artist who additionally prohibits using the model in games without permission.
https://x.com/komado_booth/status/1809231410429042794
Ironically she would have been fine doing it with the Rindo model.

>> No.80055232

>>80051603
>i followed some girl_dm thing
>girl_dm
>the retard who changed her iconic models for some "looks more like myself" abomination
Deserved.

>> No.80055261

>>80055077
learn english.
>>80055037
the catgirl is literally so generic two artists think they made it.

>> No.80055291

You better have receipt, dumb whore
https://filian.co/

>> No.80055302

>>80055187
>>80055208
Yea but just from the VRChat model you wouldnt find the contract. Especially before she got popular. And the artist clearly wasn't bothered when she sold the plushies so why go in now?

>> No.80055368

>>80055261
You're the one that needs to learn English. You effectively just said "it's fake drama and you're a sister" just as I said you would do.
It's time for you to stop posting.

>> No.80055372

>>80055302
Confirmed she pirated it then?

>> No.80055383

>>80055261
>the catgirl is literally so generic two artists think they made it.
False. Filian used two people different models. Jingo is gonna sue her for the use of Rindo, Komado for the use of Mint.

>> No.80055418

>>80055302
The artist didn't know.
Goodsmile is too big to go unnoticed

>> No.80055421

>>80051976
>imprisoned
nigger are you legit retarded

>> No.80055438

>>80055302
The artist clearly didn't know she was doing any of that shit, dumbass.

>> No.80055457

>>80055261
>the catgirl is literally so generic two artists think they made it.
How can you argue about things you don't even understand? I thought Filian fans being ADHD zoomers was a bit.

>> No.80055461

>>80055302
>artist
she doesn't understand english and don't know who the fuck filian is until she saw the good smile promotion

>> No.80055478

>>80055302
If I steal shit from your house without you noticing, I have the right to steal everything else inside afterwards.

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>>80054126
lmao

>> No.80055527

>>80055302
TOS literally in booth link, maybe she should have research on a model that she will using for her career first?
https://booth.pm/ja/items/3443188

>> No.80055539

>>80055372
VRChat models dont belong to anyone it's just data
>>80055438
>>80055461
>>80055478
You literally loose IP rights if you dont enforce them so the artist is fucked

>> No.80055538

>>80055368
i can feel the filipino sun radiating from your post
>>80055457
how can you be a dumb cuck lmao idiot

>> No.80055570

>>80051638
retard

>> No.80055577

>>80055291
Holy shit there's her own store too, if that artist play his cards rights he could actually fucking ruin her.

>> No.80055578

>>80055232
If anything girl_dm might have scared her into staying with the models she had.

>> No.80055590

>>80055539
oh you're just trolling carry on

>> No.80055597

>>80055539
loose like ur brain lmao

>> No.80055603

>>80055538
Mint and Rindo are two different models. You are literally arguing without knowing shit about the issue.

>> No.80055617

>>80051838
They were added prior to him taking over

>> No.80055657

Seeing how low effort Filian is, it wouldn't surprise me she is just preparing to come up with black text on white background ChatGPT apology picture post on Twitter.

>> No.80055660

>>80051603
I'm just going to say this, fillian fucked up but in reality nobody in USA gives a fuck, a lot of people complaining you bet pirate games or watch manga/anime for free xD

>> No.80055662

>>80055291
>>80055577
Oh shit

>> No.80055670

>>80055539
Truly, you can remove a nijisister from niji, but you can't remove the niji from nijisister.

>> No.80055673

>>80055539
Both of your statements are false.
Data belongs to the entity who made it.
IPs last until after death of the author. You're talking about trademarks.

>> No.80055677

>>80054360
What a dumb bitch, cancel all your plans and get a fucking lawyer already.

>> No.80055686

>>80055603
She stole from both. Neither of them allowed her to sell merch

>> No.80055696

>>80051838
i like to call it xwitter haha you know lets xwit this picture! i think its pretty good

>> No.80055717
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>>80054126
Don't worry anon, I laughed at your joke.

>> No.80055744

>create design
>it gets stolen
>someone is about to make a fuckload of money with it
>do you a. contact them and work something out so you get a cut
>or b. sperg and cancel their plans so you get nothing
choose one, but remember that you're an artist so you're retarded

>> No.80055761

>>80055302
Why you assume everyone must have known her? Some spic vtuber have more ccv than her but you don't see anyone talking about them.

>> No.80055771

>>80055291
>>80055662
Wonder if she'll do like that Seth Weinstein jew and start deleting the site and everything associated with it.

>> No.80055780

>>80055261
It's two different models you absolute idiot.

>> No.80055817

>>80055744
Option C I discover she did the same shit before and cash out my cut from all those times.

>> No.80055820

>>80055539
>You literally loose IP rights if you dont enforce them so the artist is fucked
We went over this yesterday. That's trademarks, for example "Velcro" and "Thermos" lost their trademarks due to them becoming widely used to refer to the general product and not the specific version of it. At one point, Google was at risk of losing their trademark. However, IPs are not held to that standard and there is precedent that states the copyright holders actually have the right to sit and see how things develop before bringing legal challenges.

>> No.80055828

>>80051680
why doesn't she delete this tweet?

>> No.80055829

>>80055744
Jingo is doing A
Komado is doing B

>> No.80055835

>>80055538
>losing so hard he can only call others SEA now
LMAO

>> No.80055872

>>80052055
>>80053104
>this thread has almost 400k views in 10 hours
>jingo's tweet has 6.8M views already
AIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE FILIAN RUUUUUUUUNNN

>> No.80055881

>>80055835
stuck a nerve i see. sorry that you proved that you are foreign just as i said you would do.

>> No.80055895

>>80055180
If I had to guess, for them, female characters have to be "relatable", because if they aren't then they're just sexist stereotypes made to appeal to the male gaze. Since males are what they find gross, they dislike the characters by association.

>> No.80055926

>>80055820
>there is precedent that states the copyright holders actually have the right to sit and see how things develop before bringing legal challenges
Really? Well, not like she'd be retarded enough to let it get to court, because she'd be fucked there.

>> No.80055939

>>80051838
Except he didn't add them. They were already a thing long before Elon.

>> No.80055944

>>80055881
You lost. It's time to go offline for the day.

>> No.80055986

>>80055944
i lost as hard as hololive did. filian will never recover from this brother. it's ogre.

>> No.80056016

Your honor, my client is dumber that your average VRchat user.

>> No.80056030

>>80055744
You think the dumb cunt who brags about pirating models is going to give you a cut?
She owes him way more than a simple cut with all the shit she already sold.

>> No.80056052

>>80055744
>nothing
He is getting everything Filian earned if she cant provide receipts to that purchase

>> No.80056080

>>80055744
>c. Collect what I’m rightfully owed and ruin this bitch

>> No.80056085

>>80055986
Why do you indiefaggots always equate your whores to hololive?

>> No.80056089

>>80051638
>>80051603
indies are allowed to pirate and steal ip

>> No.80056118
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>>80053104
I was certain the pirate rrat would stay contained here, but if that huge ass thread has it, then the nips are aware as well.
Filian might be stupid, but she's done a lot of good for the vtubing scene, hope this ends up with some kind of an ok ending for both parties.

>> No.80056130

>>80055744
B. She already made a boatload of money of my design with 0 intention to share any with me and she would just get a new model if I accept the cut for her nendroid, instead I would just contact Goodsmile and offer them the IP directly.

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I drew this avater in 2004 where is my money

>> No.80056148

>>80056030
goodsmile would give the artist a cut. not sure why you think filian matters at all here.
>>80056052
settle down until you learn this language you're getting too excited. they aren't even in the same country. that bitch isn't getting shit lmao.
>>80056085
if you weren't foreign you would know why hololive is relevant.

>> No.80056152

>>80052319
Because the most popular indie is still less than the least popular Hololive. (Stars doesn't count)

>> No.80056159

>>80055657
shes not gonna apologize if the japs dont force her 2

>> No.80056166

>>80052126
Trannies are mostly virgins who've watched a lot porn and began sympathizing with their fantasy woman to the point where they started getting off by pretending to be her.

>> No.80056172

Imagine defending OTK's cumrag for free.

>> No.80056181

>>80052014
This is not fair use at all, retard. This is just straight-up plagiarism.

>> No.80056202

>"ugh nijisisters are so cringe defending anycolor over bad management!"
>meanwhile, filiancucks defending filian literally breaking the law
lol

>> No.80056205

>>80056118
>done a lot of good for the vtubing scene
Like what? I don't follow her so i'm geniunly curious what you mean by that

>> No.80056221

>>80056148
Hololive is relevant, filian isn't.

>> No.80056251

>>80052640
>her
Lmao. Literally every faggot seething about Filian is a twitter faggot (99% chance they're a tranny, as well) or a nijisister that's relieved the latest drama isn't about niji.

Let's see where this will be in two weeks

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>>80056137
Hello, this is my new model can I start selling nendos out of it? It's generic enough after all.

>> No.80056268

Reminder that if Filian plays aggressively, she can get away with all of this without paying a cent.

>> No.80056285

>>80055771
MSM welcomes Filian to the family!

>> No.80056308

>>80056202
it's two non corporate entities so it's civil conflict unlike with corporate management

>> No.80056312

https://poal.me/hhpzj9
https://poal.me/hhpzj9
https://poal.me/hhpzj9
https://poal.me/hhpzj9

>> No.80056326

>>80056205
She often runs events that give smaller people a chance to shine and does the VTuber awards.

>> No.80056349

>>80056148
Any girl in Hololive is more known than Filian overseas.

>> No.80056379

>>80055744
They will settle and Filian will get commercial rights but it's going to cost her a huge sum, orders of magnitude more than if she had just commissioned her own model. It's pretty ironic considering she has always implicitly poked fun at vtubers for spending money on vtuber models.

>> No.80056378
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He won.

>> No.80056395

>>80056255
name?

>> No.80056398

>>80056148
Filian matters because she already sold a ton of shit using the property of at least 2 artists, see >>80053104 and >>80055291
And what makes everything worse is that she constantly brags about not having bought the models.

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Anime girls are draw with cat proportions. I as a cat would like a cut

>> No.80056431

>>80056395
Jawr Jura.

>> No.80056453

>>80056378
The japs don't care about him

>> No.80056468

>>80055926
Petrella v. Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Inc. (2014): The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the doctrine of laches (unreasonable delay in pursuing a claim) cannot be used to bar a copyright claim within the three-year statute of limitations. The case involved the film "Raging Bull" and clarified that delay alone, without exceeding the statute of limitations, does not eliminate the right to sue for infringement.

>> No.80056481

>>80056137
Nice drawing, anon.

>> No.80056501
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>>80056453
You will rice boi

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>>80056409
Hi, this is Aby's manager. If you want to make merch of her for conventions, go for it. (My manager is me)

>> No.80056518

>>80056378
The curse of Floyd has finally started taking effect.

>> No.80056560

>>80056378
ffs why does this picture make me laugh so hard

>> No.80056590

New thread >>80052851

>> No.80056611

>>80056468
There's a summary of the case by GPT. If you want to read the full ruling, just search it, but I wouldn't recommend trying unless you speak legalese

>> No.80056638

>>80056468
>scalia opinion
into the trash it goes

>> No.80056760

>>80053346
>Creators make the game
>Content creators say they made the game and the audience is allowed to make merchandise off "their game"
I fixed your retarded analogy for you

>> No.80056773

>>80051603
based

>> No.80056810

>>80056501
Ok cotton boi

>> No.80056820

>>80056514
Now that I think of it, this reminds me of Chris claiming that Sonichu and Rosechu were completely creations of his own, instead of just Sonic and Amy with Pikachu costumes.

>> No.80056871

Funny thing is Filian's retarded fans won't be humbled when she doesn't get away with the blatant IP theft and will just continue to be retarded fans and shit up this board and the internet in general

>> No.80056881

>>80052857
>stealing a car is okay actually
OK faggot

>> No.80057100

>>80056871
They'll just latch onto Phase or Kirsche and act like nothing happened.

>> No.80057174

The only people defending Filian at this point are third-worlders and children.

>> No.80057279

>>80056453
Much to Kiara's disappointment.

>> No.80057332

>>80057174
that's the complete opposite of reality actually.

>> No.80057353

>>80054317
Yeah, but again, that's if you BOUGHT the model in the first place. In this clip and the clip she uploaded on hr own channel, she very clearly stated that she got it, and I quote, illegally. She has little to no plausible deniability to fall back on.

>> No.80057459

>>80057353
>She has little to no plausible deniability to fall back on.
except for the whole thing where she blatantly lies every stream. even clipwatchers know how she is. imagine being beneath them.

>> No.80057475

>>80054742
>rip model off a software (thousands do it)
That makes it okay to admit doing becauae...?

>> No.80057493
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80057493

>>80057332
based white man

>> No.80057766

>>80055302
Because she didn't fucking know, retard. Are you are autistic? Do you think that if you know something, then everyone on the planet must automatically know it as well?

>> No.80057934

>>80054635
We aren't talking about your favourite vtuber though.

>> No.80057943

>>80056268
And will forever be remembered as Stingy Pagpag Vtuber

>> No.80058016

>>80051603
>Copyright
I do not give a fuck.
I could not give less of a shit. Copyright needs to be abolished.
Stop trying to avoid the fact that NO ONE showed up to the niji booth.
The niji defense force is pathetic. They're like the unironic fake news media pushing false flags to the top of the news to hide actual foul play.

>> No.80058027

So you have millions of subs and drowning in cash yet you can't be arsed to commission a proper model? That's just unprofessional

>> No.80058110

>>80055291
Wow, you sound VERY angry.

>> No.80058115

>>80058027
shes on commisend but its worse then the booth ones, so why use it

>> No.80058153

>>80057766
Ignorance of the law or the reality of using someone else's IP is not a defence. It MIGHT save her from more serious financial penalties but not by much.
>>80057943
Why are there so many retarded threadreaders who think she's actually a Flip? It's a meme from Neuro repeatedly calling her Filipino Boy. She accidentally walked in front of the camera in another streamers stream a few years ago and she's clearly white.

>> No.80058235

>>80052889
>Filian is a retarded who can't read.
>Is a retarded
>Can't read

>SEA ESLs HATE filian
>They LOVE nijisanji
>They love troons!
Well I know which side I pick.
You better be a genuine dramafag and not a falseflagger.
>>80052894
based

>> No.80058285

>>80057332
Despite what your retarded ass has come to believe, every first-world country cares a lot about intellectual properties.

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