/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/
>https://streamscharts.com/

So when is the Hololive x GSC panel taking place?

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>>79950080
nigga IP is one of the things that has global reach trough treaties

SOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_RirwIOcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_RirwIOcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_RirwIOcs

>>79950149
akua sexo

>>79950149
How much is Mythic going to pay to buy the commercial rights?

Anycolor has announced a date for their 7th annual Shareholder's meeting. It hasn't been shown in the EN version of their IR but their Japanese version of the IR shows that Anycolor will have their meeting on the 30th of July.
Which means, at the time of writing are now 25 days away from the meeting.

/#/ is declining

>>79950149
don't be stupid

>>79950081
You have to remember that GSC has at least some significant amount of investment of time and resources into this as a product, and won't be prone to just drop it outright. I'd imagine Fillian will have a window to resolve this with the original licensor, and if they either don't want to extend commercial rights or Fillian isn't capable of finding or meeting an agreement they're happy with, GSC would at that point probably drop it as a project despite the funds that have gone towards it so far.

>>79950149
READ YOUR FUCKING CONTRACTS

>>79950149
That Kronii is the numbers queen

>>79950114
Recent clip numbers
>>79878924
>>79878961
>>79878979

>>79950137
oh god, the panel is going to be poisoned by this filian shit isn't it.

Last Aqua to start this thread of right now time for bed gn # enjoy SEA

>>79950149
Always consult your lawyers

>>79950019
In that case the one who would lose more are Yootooz and GS(were they to continue releasing the nendo), Fillian is probably only receive the initial license payout regardless of the sale number.
Her plushies though, pretty sure she'd lose the most from it (2-3k of them right?).

I don't get it, Fillian can just buy the model from the creator. It's not a yab worth talking about honestly.

>>79950232
please don't go. Aqua is so much better than the ESL schizos.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>67,240: Mio (Hololive)
>44,888: Miko (Hololive)
>37,180: Chiroru (Indie)
>34,531: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,407: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>16,589: Pekora (Hololive)
>14,665: Noel (Hololive)
>14,579: Nei (Nijisanji)
>13,205: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,133: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,002: Raora (Hololive)
>11,428: Lunlun (Nijisanji)
>10,963: Watame (Hololive)
>10,648: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,632: Bijou (Hololive)
>10,367: Polka (Hololive)
>10,343: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,047: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,016: Elizabeth (Hololive)

>>79950188
They had an announcement and concept art anon, there's not that much investment behind it. I doubt they were even close to tooling up for production.

>>79950233
I don't think so, we may get one quest throwing shade at filian

>>79950251
Or just use the most basic common sense of reading the (very simple and straightforward) license for the thing you plan to center your entire small business and branding identity around.

Do you think this guy will report news on Filian? Since they from the same org and all.

>>79950149
Only hololive matters

>>79950251
>>79950194
They didn't listen to pinkcat and that white one that i forget the name who's Soda gf

>>79950266
Should've done that before doing this, now the creator sees the moolas for the merch

>>79950177
Does Mythic have to tho? Aren't they basically just middleman?

Would kronii have been happier person today if she had debuted with her newest outfit as her default?

>>79950019
>okay, I deserve x% of your profits
Is interesting that it's not 100%
businesses can just violate commerical rights and pay up afterwards then so long as they still made enough money

* FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *
>07/04 TALLY:
12,002: Raora (Hololive) | Elden Ring
10,632: Bijou (Hololive) | Elden Ring
10,016: Elizabeth (Hololive) | Undertale
9,505: Cecilia (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die w/ Gigi
8,871: Gigi (Hololive) | 7 Days to Die w/ Cecilia
7,116: Mori (Hololive) | Elden Ring
5,823: Mori (Hololive) | Unarchived Karaoke


>EN GOLDS FOR JULY 2024
1) Mumei (Hololive) - 15,906 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Raora (Hololive) - 15,533 - Don't Scream
3) Elizabeth (Hololive) - 19,688 - Unarchived Karaoke
4) Raora (Hololive) - 12,002 - Elden Ring

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Raora
1x: Elizabeth, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
13p: Raora
7p: Cecilia, Elizabeth
5p: Mumei
3p: Bijou
1p: Mori

>>79950308
drama channel will bite everything
its their life blood

Do we know who in EN is in JP right now? Or suspected to be?
Other than advent and chadcast of course

>>79950266
It really all depends on the artist if he wants a huge pile of free instant money or not. I bet he hates money, r-right filianbros?

>>79950149
That /#/s likes posting lewd images of a mentally underdeveloped girl.

>>79950177
Mythic is gonna throw her under the bus cause Asmon doesn't want to deal with an international IP lawsuit where they're 100% in the wrong to start with.
>She reassured us that she had ownership of her IP and we took her at her word.

>>79950275
For that none of us should have any ideal. Unless your uncle is working for GSC.

>>79950188
GSC cancelled the Mel nendo despite already having a gray prototype for it. them cancelling Fillian's nendo is negligible to their profits so they can afford it. it's up to fillian to deal with the problem

>>79950275
I think you're underestimating how many steps are involved for the project to get to the point it currently is, and how much of a scheduling/budgeting/planning function exists for a company like GSC when it comes to a project like this.

It's not anywhere close to what production itself costs, obviously, but it is still a degree of cost that I doubt any company wants to immediately throw away without at least an initial attempt to resolve first. That being said, they may be significantly more wary about working with people like Fillian in the future.

>>79950267
One more just for you, buddy.

>>79950317

>>79950348
kiara
raora
i think ina is heading there soon?
mumei might be

>>79950164
EN?

>>79950295
That is if they made papers for it, was it really that hard to just contact your artist for confirmation and consulting your lawyer to ensure things wouldn't go south

>>79950266
>steal an Iphone from the store
>get caught
>"w-well I can just pay now, after you caught me, right officer? That doesn't make it theft anymore, right?

So what's all this about lawsuits, Asmon and contracts? Did Niji fuckup again or was it the indies this time?

>>79950354
What's wrong with that?

>>79950266
You can't just pay for the things you stole and be absolved of theft

>>79950308
Dude, this is a feast of the highest order for them. The fact that they can sprinkle in some good holonews AND it being relevant is also a blessing

>>79950299
Who cares about CCV? She made bank.

>>79950475
Fillian finally has the first yab in her career

>>79950149
Hololive won by doing nothing.

The real shitty part of all this is my uncle who works are Rare told me GSC was so excited about the filian nendo that they pushed it ahead of the queue by swapping its position with kiaras nendo

>>79950266
Witcher fuck up won't happen now, owner will go Tallarico

>>79950509
>the first
lol

>>79950348
>Kiara
>Advent
>Ina?
>Mori
>Bae
>IRyS
>Haachama
I suspect Gura will be there soon

>>79950149
Companies should just stick to making holo merch

>>79950376
International lawsuits are the easiest. Asmon can just ignore it and little JP artist can cry about it

>>79950555
sharkie has went into hibernation until her next merch run, sorry.

>>79950555
I thought I typed Raora...

>>79950420
To be fair, Filian is like the only one retarded enough to never secure the rights to their own model/IP. Even the neuro creator realized he needed to do that.

>>79950266
Well sure except she have profited off that model many times now, and the creator want their share from that

>>79950524
my uncle who works at the same company thinks your uncle is a dumbass

Strange...Jellyfag ain't here what happened?

Nursing handjob please

>>79950516
By doing things according to the books, to the letter, autistically

>>79950149
It's such a weird situation because, Filian knew about this.
There are clips of her talking about how she needs a new model for merch because this one is free to use.
It's why Gosegu got a model update/change before making merch too.

>>79950114
THE SACRED THREADS

Filain is going to get a real model and hire her own artist, after all this is said and done. Any suggestions for her new art mama?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycqL0XfFpPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrmvTgp06bg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3asTXK9IFbI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io_lfqhRW0A
yeah, I'm thinking nijiEN is BACK

>>79950649
You need to understand that making a new model is hard work and fuck that

>>79950475
Asmon owns mythic and Filian is a part of mythic. Filian never secured the rights to her IP and the original artist just found out she has been selling official merch using his model with the nendo announcement.

>>79950608
She did all the work though.
I've always said copyright shouldn't last longer than one month. Fucking Disney

>>79950322
Sometimes it's an argument of the amount of contribution the original IP constitutes.

Going back to the font example, I might not be able to claim that the use of my font was responsible for 100% of the profit of this particular product, but I can claim that at least a portion of the overall revenue made would constitute the damages of your violating my license and using it commercially.

This is often why extending rights to commercial use says something like "contact the licensor" instead of just giving you a raw sum, because as the original creator there's a big difference between selling you an extended license to use the model in some small limited-run keychain set and selling you an extended license to use the model in an expensive large-run retail product. You're not going to just use a flat rate for any and all commercial products, unless you like getting ripped off.

Cute

>>79950649
Better archive them, if she wants to fight it she'll try to get those taken down. That's about as fucked as she can get if it goes to court or something and that clip comes up.

>>79950524
Chimkin...

>>79950640

>>79950670
NIJISANJI GOLD TODAY BABY

>>79950577
if only USA and JP didn't sign a treaty on copyright laws oh wait they did it 40 years ago

>>79950658
I hope its Akizone

>>79950658

Uh Oh!

>>79950308
I doubt it. These drama tubers have no integrity. They aren't going to touch this one since they are part of the same twitch orbiter cult.

>>79950693
This reminded me how Holos need to get perms to use specific fonts.

>>79950569
When do the train lolis get a Nendo?

>>79950266
Price comes from value. If some random indie wants to use it, in their case it has low value. If you build up that value like the retard Filian has done and THEN try to buy it, you have to pay more.

Average Niji sister

>>79950149
GSC WHERE ARE PROMISE NENDOS? Stop wasting time with western scammers.

>>79950731
False has reported on twitch drama before
Heck he's done entire episodes on them before, it just looks like he only focuses on nijisanji because they are low hanging fruit

>>79950752
Can't sue if we have your signature saying it's fine

>>79950715
genius

>>79950670
Why is Vox solo debuting 3D?

It's a shame how few lewds AZKi actually has.

>>79950691
>copyright shouldn't last longer than one month

>>79950149
Will asmongold react to this drama? He's Mythic leader, right? Or OTK?

>>79950658
Rurudo.

>>79950752
Most companies need to, actually, not just holos. We just don't hear about it unless you work in a corporate environment

>>79950655
>threads

>>79950682
Did Nerissa already do the collab with her? I wonder if this will fuck with it if not.

>>79950658
Lemon Mito, the master of kemomimi girls.

>>79950782
Isn't the panel with yagoo tomorrow?

>>79950693
Just saying, why not make some Disney toys, games, movies without a license and just pay later if the "punishment" is just a cut of the proceeds. Depending on your expenses, it can still be a net win

>>79950718
>16h ago
Wow you guys are slow as fuck

>>79950625
i think hes EST so he doesnt make it to every jelly stream

>>79950658
Asanagi
Imagine all the meat flopping around when she flips

>>79950764
Are there even BA Nendos? I feel like Hina would get one first or that wolf girl who's on the app icon.

>>79950801
The rest of Luxiem will be announced afterwards. Expect one group collab per announcement. nijiEN could easily win this month.

>>79950658

>>79950782
>People asking for Promise nendos and figures
>GSC does nothing
>GSC instead works with low effort twitch whore
>This happens
Serves GSC right

>>79950670
Why the hell are male vtubers so...chuuni?

>>79950257
Retardchama guess who they get to sue for damages

>>79950718
>bitch tried to invoke the Atlantean deep magic

>>79950892
Good. Retards should hurry the fuck up
>>79950899
AZKi SEX

>>79950658
Raora Panthera

>>79950892
I'm not sad about this turn of events, I tell you what

>>79950862
you mean the master of drawing fubuki (but slightly different each time)

>>79950892
Why would GSC waste their time with shitters like Council? Nobody knows who any of them are outside of holoEN's tiny bubble.

>>79950884
Four golds will win them the month.

>>79950892
>Gsc
It's on Cover, not GSC. Promise simply isn't worth making merch of compared to girls like Fuwamoco and Gura.

>>79950911
because they are nerdy losers

>>79950691
>maybe if I tack disney onto the end of my point people will agree with me
KEK

>>79950883
Me on the left.

>>79950938
>>79950945
You fags really need to be less obvious with your shitposting

>>79950929
Justice saves the day

>>79950872
>stealing from a more popular vtuber
What has she not stolen?

>>79950691
you stink of liggery

yeah council didn't do as good as they expected

>>79950929
Her name really should have been RAWRa Pantera XD

>>79950857
Hololive will get blacklisted by the indie industry if they try to pull out of a collab for such bullshit reasoning

>>79950883
are you living under a rock? GSC already released a bunch of BA nendos and even announced incoming ones!

>>79950999
I don't think she could pronounce that

>>79950965
>Shitposting
I mean, Fuwamoco are getting a Nendo, are they not? The fact that they're getting one before any Promise girls tells you exactly what Cover thinks.

>Bling-Bang-Bang-Born (cover) *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=vFDysagoQw0
>奏 / Kanade (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1on_WaMzw
>My Dearest (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>DAYBREAK FRONTLINE (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>名前のない怪物 / Namae No Nai Kaibutsu (cover)
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>symmetry *new*
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=5ADaIvhhcCU
>Shunkan Heartbeat Otonose Kanade SOLO ver.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRwOG06UtI
>カバー曲 / Cover Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUEA7yBOKxdRPdI4vYmL-dR
>歌まとめ / All Songs
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6qjLH_5VIDUogkBSe9WqTU0X1ia7xi_1

>>79950080
>Legally Japanese have no rights outside of Japan
Found the Filian legal advisor! Mate, copyright law (and intellectual property law in general) is one of the few things
>thanks to Disney, in great part
where international jurisdiction applies and all the artist has to do is to pick and choose the appropriate venue in the United States and file a suit there.
He can also file the suit in Japan and get awarded a default judgement when Filian fails to show and use this result to block the production in any place, not only Japan

It won’t come to that tho. Unless the artist is pants on head retard he’ll settle for a share of the money, it’s like finding 20 bucks in your jacket pocket

>>79951009
>the indie industry

>>79951009
>indie industry
t'was a good one

>>79951009
oh nyo. the horror.

>>79951009
kek

>>79950867
Well, first, why actively violate licenses for products and have to go through lawsuits and lawyer fees and cut away significant portions of your profits when you could just... NOT do that? Why would I use a font I know is in violation of the license I purchased it under when I could just use a different font that doesn't have that problem?

And if you're saying that, well, it would make sense if you decide to violate a really BIG IP, a company like Disney can sue you right into the fucking dirt for well beyond even the original revenue of the product, but for damages well beyond that. In your theoretical example, Disney could claim damages not just from the sale of the product but damages directly to the integrity of their IP and brand(s) and copyright violations and I could find myself millions of dollars in the hole for it.

In these cases, like this case with Filian, we're usually talking a small individual creator having a license violated by a larger corporation, not the reverse.

https://files.catbox.moe/66dhm7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/66dhm7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/66dhm7.png

>>79951009
>the indie industry

>>79951015
I don't really keep up with BA news besides the lewds I see on Twitter.

>>79950649
wait the retard said that on a public stream
lmao

>>79950649
>There are clips of her talking about how she needs a new model for merch because this one is free to use.
thats... really fucking bad

>>79951081
her fucking face fucking blinded me fuck you

>>79951009
>Indie industry
Rumao, Ui can fund the entire western indie "industry" by herself

If Cover hears about this they will probably cancel the collab because being reliant on artists and dealing with a lot of copyright matters they don't want any of their talents to be associated with someone that might get sued for copyright infringement.

>>79950658

>>79950862
He’s just gonna pump out another FBK clone

>>79951009
thanks for the chuckle

>>79951030
https://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/summary_berne.html

here you go I suppose that it will need to be repeated several times in the next hours just include the summary in the copypasta

>>79951097
It is until you realize the artist is in Japan and filian isn't.
You can oh nooooo GSC can't work with her anymore because they're Japanese but she can work with the rest of the world, which last time I checked, is combined bigger than Japan

Sorry anon i'm posting Holoboy

Tempus nendo when?

>>79951127
shut the fuck up, we don't need some schizo to snitch on Cover just because you hate Filian

>>79951156
>>79951154
here you go retard this isn't selen vs niji this is copyright bullshittery

>>79951156
Why does this entire board have this bizarre viewpoint that laws no longer exist the second that you leave Japan?

>>79951009
Oh god not the indies. Not the ever important indies.
That'd be so much worse than pissing off all the artists that they rely on. Say it ain't so.

>>79951127
They better cancel the collab. Doing a collab with an actual criminal probably isn't a good look.

We love ERB here

Ok, but non-shitpost answer, why did Fuwamoco get to jump the line in front of Promise for a Nendo? It can't be pure popularity, right?

>>79951049
>>79951052
>>79951057
>>79951060
>>79951081
>>79951116
>>79951142
A large majority of Hololive viewers are also indie vtuber viewers. Be careful of what you're saying or else you will pay for this transgression

You guys are blowing this way outta proportion it's kinda funny

>>79950682
there's no way she's this dumb, is there? her fans have been begging her to create a legally distinct variant of her model for months

>>79951198
It's more that filian is rich and the artist isn't. That's all it ever really comes down to when deciding who the legal system will work for

>>79951241
It's actually baffling at this point.

>>79951241
They are Japanese

>>79951248

>>79951248
Trying too hard anonchama

>>79951248
cute larp go on

>>79951164

>>79951063
btw that's my baby spunk she's spewing

do NOT report this to Cover until after the collab with Nerissa

>>79951261
>Filian: 4th RICHER VTUBERS? ARE YOU GUYS STUPID?

>>79951198
Because the Selen shit made retards come out of the woodwork.

I'm surprised I'm still here.

>>79951317

>>79950649
Weird how there’s no proof because Twitch doesn’t archive VODS, checkmate and flips away

>>79951305

UPDATE
>>79951012
>>79951117
>>79951165
https://gallerypanda.com/pages/filian
The Lil Fil merch she's selling and has sold may ALSO be a legal issue in terms of sales perms that she's neglected to get. She now has two potential lawsuits on the table.

>>79951317
Uh I already submitted my report

>>79951331
You need to double down

>>79950267
Post Mumei and her big moomers?
I'm off to work.

>>79951248
What are you going to do? Visit me in Somalia right now?

>>79950658
Mizuryuu Kei, Butcha U or Tsukuru (this guy draw very good femboy doujin)

>>79951311
I don't remember making this post

>>79951356

>>79951248
Do you know what walled garden means?
>>79951363
lmao.

You guys are retard, Fillians manager went through this with a fine tooth comb
>>79951236

>>79951412
that's fine, as long as I remember flooding her womb

>>79951248
delusional ligger

>>79951435
It keeps getting worse kek

JELLY 1K DORYAAAAAAA

I just want that egal eagle grifter to hop on a quick stream and tell you all international copyright is notoriously weak so we can move on

>>79951435
Ahh, to be young.

>>79951248
>a large majority
Hey Siri, pull up the numbers for indie vtubers

>>79951435
damn can't argue with her mane-chan, she seems well informed

>>79951435
What retard

>>79950354
>Aqua
>Mumei
>Kanade
>Nene
Yeah, we love retards.

>>79951458
Or this one: what's going on?

Filian did nothing wrong. Piracy is based. Snitches get stiches.

>>79951435
https://archive.is/41Cn1
Don't think she'd be THAT retarded, but just in case.

>>79951435
this is getting better by the minute

>>79951435
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
I'm fucking dying bro.

>>79951501
They are estimated to be in the same number as the average ccv for NijiEN

>>79950693
>Going back to the font example, I might not be able to claim that the use of my font was responsible for 100% of the profit of this particular product, but I can claim that at least a portion of the overall revenue made would constitute the damages of your violating my license and using it commercially.
For anything over 2500 bucks Uncle Sam can enter the fray and take you to the cleaners as well
>There are four essential elements to a charge of criminal copyright infringement. >In order to sustain a conviction under section 506(a), the government must demonstrate: (1) that a valid copyright; (2) was infringed by the defendant; (3) willfully; and (4) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain.
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1847-criminal-copyright-infringement-17-usc-506a-and-18-usc-2319

Financial penalty IIRC is three times the value of the work / the revenue it would have generated plus damages assigned by the judge.
Civil case usually gets tried in the same court meaning if you lose one you lost both.
They usually don’t bother with small fry tho, this is legacy from an era of VHS pirates and phonorecord counterfeiters and, recently, modchippers

>>79951363
https://komado.booth.pm/items/2258111
>Isreal
It's named "Mint" too lmao

>>79951525
Filian kayfabe of being a retard zoomer went too far.

>>79951363
>Designed by: Creator:Filian
kek

>>79951435
Holy fucking based

>>79951561
I disagree. It's getting better by the minute

Nothing will happen mark my words

I don't care about Fillian. I'm just going to continue to post AZKi lewds.

I am very tired holokeks
good niight

for those that missed it, apparently VSPOEN will get memberships (and possibly monetization) very soon
yep, faster than Justice

>>79951248
Walled Garden bitch. Why would Holochads mingle with indie plebeian scum?

>>79951255
This was a nothin burger when Filian was just starting out. Now that she’s signed with Mythic, has her merch lines, licenses out the ip to Gamersups,Youtooz, and GSC, the chickens have come to roost.

>>79951435
Also this >>79951117
Turns out it was TWO artists.

Okay but why no holoid figures

Kronii can get so racist holy shit, must be her Asian heritage.

>>79951615
goodnight
chu~

>>79951615
gn

>>79951587
If the artist goes menhera she is fucking cooked.

>>79951124
>>79951412
AZKi is flat.

>>79951613
Zeroguess AZKi's nipples

https://x.com/qaltted/status/1809135861419946230
vtuber for this feel?

>>79951435

>>79951639
ID too pure to buy merch

>>79951656
I mean, she isn't, but this >>79951613 is closer to her size.

>>79951615
Ayame is busty?

>Something yab worthy happens to one of more liked twitchers
>Entire indie scene shows up and does everything it can to make it worse for them

>>79951666
Festival

>>79950658
I wish that skin was L2D. I still got it anyway though since it's godlike.

>>79951638

>>79951640
https://youtu.be/ZREkudG51zc
It's not the first time

Well, you can't say that being in a corpo is a disadvantage now when one of the biggest indie vtubers get herself into an IP trouble like that. At least things are clear-cut with corpos.

This will become yet another nothing burger, just like every other yab this retarded thread hyped up

>>79951618
I mean it is quite normal for small corpos to get it the first week or like 10 days

>>79951435
Oh. Yea see, that's.......
Man.
Just....man.

>>79951708
huh its almost as if being an indie means competing on the open market and they will cut the head of the top to get her place without hesitation

>>79951649
>menhera
more like if he has enough money
and judging by this case being very clear cut and in his favor he can just pay his lawyers after he has won

>>79951363
>>79951435
Filian is DONE DONE

>>79950177
We don't even know if Mythic was involved with this. Being signed with them does not preclude pursuing commercials on tour own. They aren't typically involved with merch production they just secure deals between talents and sponsors.

>>79951636
See that's that beauty of it. Filian is wicked smart. When you owe the bank 100 woolongs, that's your problem. When you owe the bank 1 morbillion woolongs, that's the bank problem. Filian has a lot of companies tied up with her that will find it in their best interest to make this go away

>>79951587
She really thought she owns it.

Reminder that HoloEN all kneeled before filian and the girls were all begging for their fans to vote for them in her big vtuber awards show

>>79951708
This is the "crab bucket" in action

>>79951248
>Large majority
Yeah a whole 300 people lol

>>79951708
Based.

Would be a shame if the holo collab got axed because of this

>>79950488
I mean you can, if the person is willing to take the cash.

>>79951618
I don't get what's the holdup for justice

>>79951435
every tweet of this shit I've seen has people calling it out
oh well lol

>>79951708
That the indie scene. If she is gone, maybe her fans will watch them

Isn't Filian one of smarter indies that actually understood value of professionalism and paperwork?

>>79951818
nah Cover isn't anal at all about copyright infringement surely they won't care

Wtf I thought indies didn't have to deal with perms bullshit...

DOOOOORYAAAAAAA
how tf does YT Music count plays when the topic version is still around 800k

>>79951747
I think most people don't give a shit one way or the other, but why are you so invested in the nothing burger scenario?

>>79951708
gotta trim the competition anon

>>79951850
Lol no, indie are indies because they are afraid of paperwork

Dramatubers eating good today

Yet another example of why Cover's perms and legal autism, as frustrating as it can be, is as important as ever to protect it and the girls from future issues.

Once you start doing business above a certain threshold, you can't just continue to act like you're some small casual internet streamer.

>>79951850
>Isn't Filian one of smarter indies that actually understood value of professionalism
lol

>>79951850
That's why it's most likely the artist just forgot they already signed something with filian ages ago when she was first making merch

>>79951142
CUTE FAUNA

>>79951793
The award show that used AI art of Suisei?

>Filian
>Uses somebody elses model to make merch
>Uses AI art during her award show

Everything she does just reeks of laziness. No wonder she is primarily known as a low effort shorts spammer.

>>79951850
Yeah, but that is like being the idiot in the retard group

>>79951639
Lofi begging on Twitter for ID Nendo lol

>>79951818
as a company that heavily relies on copyright, licenses, and IP it would be a really bad look to let Nerissa associate with Fillian

>>79951791
naaa most likely filian thought she could get away with it

>>79951890
Is she really indie? She work for Mythic

>>79951896
Way to out yourself as a Kronii anti

>>79951793

>>79951708
Indie scene is full of backstabbers and Filian was already on shaky grounds and only tolerated cause she's popular and let people leech off of her.

>>79951913

>>79951916
>The award show that used AI art of Suisei?
kek, I forgot about that

>>79951850
>women
>smart

>>79951942
That's like saying VShojo is an actual corpo

>>79951708
Link for the more larger ones preying on this?
how about ja rule, what did he say?

>>79951708
They're crabs and they love drama, what do you expect? I'd guess there's some combing archives right now trying to save as many incriminating clips as they can. At least as a Holo watcher who's been wondering where the next drama is coming from it gives me something to laugh at between streams.

>>79951873
YouTube is retarded like that

>>79951959

>>79951948
Kronii is right to call out Cover management for being really shit at it. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be done period.

>>79951916
You forgot the important part
>Hired DN to make the script outline for her cause she doesn't know shit about vtubers.

>>79951793
Isn't that the one Gura didn't even know about? I think only Mori was begging and she begs REDDIT, so it's not exactly unexpected.

>>79951435
what a dumbass

>>79951873
No one knows. Sleep Talking is off by 900K

>>79951999
Green is a good colour.

>>79951248
Kys ligger. We holochads doesn't watch fucking indies unless they are affiliated on some way with the walled garden like ui.

>>79951978
Probably something funny like Jamaican me crazy!!

>>79951843
>why such a killjoy

>>79951708
Lot of people still hate her for the Floyd George joke, playing hogwarts, using ai, or collabing with Pippa

>>79952004
>Periodt
You should really change the way you type and samefag

>>79951913
Fuck off, sapling, it's ASKi time.

>>79950993
>salami that low
nijisanji really are a bunch of incompetent hacks, what a waste

>>79951850
Not at all, she's known as a very low attention span indie. She's "professional" only by indie standards, which means very little as you can see.

INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>>79952006
I didn't know about that. That is really pathetic. I thought my opinion of Filian couldn't get any lower but here we are.

>>79952057
Only the last thing should get her hate.

>>79952065
There's always room for two sexy holo's

>>79952092
Is risu inclining?

But doesn't she pay for clips?

>>79952039
pffffft

>>79952028
pretty sure this counts the MV views too (which is at 800k), but Go-Getters has no MV yet, which makes it weird
maybe people who have it credited in their reuploads of the full version contribute

>>79952100
Yes, you're right. I'm sorry

>>79952112

>>79951692
She's not pettan, but that is still too big: https://youtu.be/-kGVeueQEnA

>>79951908
ah yes, i'm sure that two separate artists signed away full commercial rights for anybody to make any merch they want of filian and lil fil for free and just for fun and totally forgot it after

>>79952116
Holotori dance's MV isn't even on the same channel (and is at 7.1 million) but the topic version is only at 1 million. YT Music logs it at 1.2M

Thank fuck for the filian yab, it eclipsed the fact that fwmc lost to shiori on the advent horserace today.

>>79952109
her morning show does well

>>79952138

>>79952178
Its a hard life being chumbud prime

>>79952166
is the YT Music/Topic version still on HoloEN channel or on Kiara's?

>>79952138
Uh where are Gura's pants and Fauna's top!?

>>79952177
Yeah but this isn't her morning show, it's her periodic lunchtime show

>>79952208
The Topic one is on Kiara's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrMQyZfRz8

>>79952171
https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1809046830359138380

>>79952171
it's not good to lie, anon

>>79952097
I didn't either. That's an unforgivable red line. She can rot.

>>79952217
patata potato

>>79952210
watch streams

>>79951880
I wish AZKi had Noel-sized tits

>>79952207
Hi Dudul. Please share your Gura lewds stash. We know it exists.

>>79952171
Phasecuck-kun...

>>79952228
hmmm, and so is the YT music one
so it seems like they do not associate different channel stuff, so that means that whatever counted for Mori wasn't from the reuploads
maybe it counts short views as a "fraction" of a play?

>>79951435
tbf fanmerch is in grey area in general but you don't have a say in it if there's no special contract for you specifically you retard flip

>>79952006
Wtf she could have hire literally anyone and chose him?

>>79952343
Retard

So what are the odds she doesn't have the cash to pay him?

>>79952389
She is a woman.

>>79952389
about tree fiddy

>>79952389
Depends what he asks for. If I were him I'd ask for a high price but not so high she says fuck it and drops the model. And also royalties.

>>79952343
retard

Hot new ad, this time for this funky video
https://youtu.be/L88r98G4YiM

>>79952389
play victim and change her model

>>79952387
>>79952455
I know you eat pagpag too but that was addressed to Fillian you retards

>>79952389
Would it be too much if he demands half of the profit?

>>79952465
>Only at 4chang /vt/

Did this retard really just fan merch is a grey area.

>>79952494
She’s already hated by the twitter mob that would appeal to. Maybe phasefags will rally around her cause she makes edgy jokes

>>79951782
If Mythic is involved in the process with GSC, then they are partly responsible even if it's not in their contract with Fillian.

If not, then it's down to Fillian.

What's going to happen after the 80000000th post?

>>79952454
>>79952494
>not so high she says fuck it and drops the model. And also royalties.
She can't do that though. She's made money off of it already, she has to pay him one way or the other. If she changes after the fact, which she'd be stupid not to do but obviously she is stupid, he can ask for a cut in future merch as well. Either way he has a right to a huge chunk of change right now.
>>79952502
I'd say so. Most contracts don't ever go that high.

>>79952494
Again, that doesn't do shit since she already sold some merch using that model.

why are Vtubers NOT a fad in the west

>>79952582
everyone wins

>>79952496
Why would you call Filian Filipino, that's random. Admit you're retarded

>>79952582
gura graduates

>>79952582
The final yab begins to unravel

>>79952582
80000001st post, come on anon

>>79952582
Mumei

>>79951783
...and not just on twitch!

>>79952585
She has to pay either way but less if she drops it right now. If she wants to keep using it she'll have to work out an arrangement to compensate the guy.

>>79952582
We go back to 1

I have run out of AZKi now time for bed for reals this time

I bring you the funnies so you don't have to trudge the catalog.
Here we have a Filianfag being retarded about copywrite law.
You're welcome.

It's funny how Hololive's "supposed" enemies are dropping dead one by one

>>79952768
This is going to be a fun week. Hope it doesn't end in a nothing burger and dramafags fuel the flames even more.

>>79952772
Serves people like Filian right for being enemies of Hololive.

>>79952796
it's missing all the tattoos

>>79952768
GSC or the model artist should throw the book at her at this point.

>>79952772
It's even funnier because it's by suicide.

>>79952768
>if i steal someone else's property for long enough it will become legally mine eventually

>>79952768
One of the worst things internet brings is that absolute retards like this get a platform to show off their absolute retardation.

>>79952851
It’s the Nijisanji mentality anon