/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Hag Love!
Also rebroadcast soon!
https://www.youtube.com/live/wc2JvwyyfNM

>>79655929
Heck yeah

Am feeling eepy but I also wanna listen to her singing

when are the kino holostars collabs finally happening

LIZ LOVE

>>79656703
Looking forward to the emotes

My Queen wants to get into moom's pants

>>79656868
Is she ignoring her too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc2JvwyyfNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc2JvwyyfNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc2JvwyyfNM
LIVE

My Queen is on the telly!

Why doesn't she just skip this part?

>>79657360
My adorable queen!

Lovely to see her to see her nice

>>79657685
Guessing that that it gets streamed from the channel itself, so the algo can sort without pissing its pant over ''duplicated content''.

What ever us she doing looking at me lovelies?

moom raid

Past Liz and Present Liz are a heavy combo

>>79658052
Guessing the list of approved songs she can sing, without the copyright police ruining her channel
DMCA HATE

>>79658164
Getting double teamed by two Queens
(⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)

God damn I was just on my phone casually in Liz stream after being raided onto her by moom not even paying attention to my PC or the stream but as soon as she started singing Dance Monkey I actually physically sat in up in my chair and did a double take what the fuck she's cracked. That kind of song really suits her voice

I love Lizzie a normal and sane amount.

3IP thread

>>79659617
JP hours

>>79658700
This edit format will always have a special place in my heart

What a great voice :O

>My Heart Will Go On
>Shows up to throw jewelry at a gravesite years later
>Heart Didn't Go On
Why did Celine Dion lie to us?

>>79660763
Kayfabe for the rubes, you know the rules anon

Glad she sings content I am not that familiar with, nothing like getting exposed to something different, nice song

Allergy HATE

>>79655929
Hag Love !

Name of this ship for their collabs?

>>79659580
The stone cold eyes of a non tea-drinker. Yabai

>>79657360
Hate that I have to work, hope you are having fun with the re-broadcast

>>79658249
On the receiving end of a royal spitroasting? YES PLZ!

>>79662348
Not that I actually care, but since I can't resist a stupid pun it looks like a Bloody Joke to me.

Feels like she lets out her inner chuuni when she sings that

lolwut

>>79663244
>seasoning your food with idol flakes
they may be on to something here

Wait, what happened with Ollie?

>>79663532
Didn't one of her biggest fans kick the bucket?

>>79663562
Damn. Hope he went easy.

>>79663532
She made an original song awhile back, and Elizabeth want people to go give it a listen

>>79663532
Biggest fan and gachi passed away recently. Then some ESL posted "congratulations on your loss Ollie" or something like that. Fucking lmao

>>79663639
Some people can be serious dicks. No sympathy for Ollie's bottom line.

Rewind!
Blubblubblub
Ohh man, solid dummy points right there. This is great.

>>79663684
Don't think the guy was being an ass. It was a legit ESL moment I think but I can't find the comment again so idk

Present Elizabeth Love !

Unexpected Live Liz

>>79663888
Did you overlook my unsympathetic gag entirely?

Post-credit scene!
Mayhaps.

>>79663968
I may be dense

>busy with recordings
ORISONG SOON

Was she a troublemaker in school?

>>79664060
A bully.

>>79664009
Strong IRyS secret ending vibes.

>>79664014
S'OK. We all display our density on occasion.

>>79664050
Ollie had to, there was no way for her to resist lmao

How do permissions work? I have a hazy understanding of this, the managerial department at Hololive has to sign an agreement or something with the artists for the talents to be able to sing their songs? Isn't the whole point of doing unarchived streams to circumvent that?

>>79667839
I think the whole unarchived "loophole" is basically just an unwritten agreement in the IP space to allow artistic freedoms such as bands doing covers live and such. It is by no means an official rule, so you've still got entities overprotective of their IP like Disney giving the finger to convention and shutting down any and every instance of IP use outside of contracts. For the most part, though, it's akin to an open secret. You play nice and I'll play nice. The advantage, of course, is that IP holders letting others use their stuff increases overall exposure. That's clearly something a giant such as Disney does not need, so they squeeze their shekels instead.

>>79667839

Youtube will smite some songs as they're being broadcast live. This is a relatively new development, and is part of why disney never gets played nowadays. Not sure how exactly they know which ones are gonna get smote - I do know that streamers get a notification warning before the wrath hits.

This is tragic as Lizzy has some seriously good disney chops

>>79668320
Neat! I've seen discussion on how closely Disney holds their IPs to themselves when the Smash Bros speculation hype was going strong. I was hoping for some of the oldies like Part of Your World, but it looks like that might end up costing quite a bit so I'll hold off of that.

>>79667839
They're doing everything under an agreement with JASRAC. The rights for live performances and recordings are different, so I guess the theory is songs where they only have live performance rights can be done in an unarchived karaoke as long as they remove the VOD.

LIZ LOVE!
I
Z
L
O
V
E!

So, about those sexy maids...
(Love that expression Lis has.)

Also...

How much effort do you think it took Liz to get Wawa gushing like that and is it actually measurable with positive integers?

https://files.catbox.moe/1pacti.jpg

Did I remember to share this one with you guys?

>ERB out on the high seas
>been pirating about for years, but she's finally closing in
>pulls ship to land on a rocky shore
>finds the cave she's been looking for for near as long as she can remember
>inside she finds a bubbling spring
>ecstatic she strips nude and jumps in
>she feels herself growing shorter
>her massive teats deflate till she's flat as a board
>hag buff disappears
>replaced with a buff of a different sort
>the fountain of cunny is a powerful and mysterious phenomenon

https://x.com/monobe_yuri/status/1807785540131156386?t=XwggwMv6hSBUDXYtzkBhcg&s=19

She should sing Persona 5 songs

Cucumbers

>>79674388
https://litter.catbox.moe/ish9fc.jpg For non twitter users.
I love yuri but this artist doesn't spark anything in me. Liz still looks cute though!

>>79676549
I posted that above.
>>79672376

>>79672376
Hot

>>79677256
Perhaps I can't read after all...

Bump

liz love

I hate slowdays.

Queen doko

>>79681825
We should ask Cheebs to eat them.

erb

erp

>>79684796
Lacy black panties that are sheer over the taco love.

>>79684796
What's with the marks on her skin? Shibari?

GIMME

>>79685777
MOAR

>>79685841
LIZ

>>79685905
PLZ!

>>79685905
well okay!

>>79685989
We've gotta start making soundposts of the goofy shit she says.

I want more Liz screams. There wasn't nearly enough of those in the collab

>>79686241
When I collabed with Liz she did plenty of screaming. Moaning, too.

>>79686114
Also, I could swear there's a soundpost of Gyate for Nerizzler floating around.

>>79686390
Proof?

>>79686483
This is the internet, bub. That stuffs doesn't exist.

WTF are they even doing?

>>79688404
Taking their gremlins out for a walk

>>79688404
I feel like there has to be a Gremlin park in the HoloVerse

>>79672376
Thank you for sharing this, always was a fan of Wawa's wawa's.

>>79689460
Imagine being there when La+'s collar breaks and she turns into a ten foot goliath intent on destruction.

Quick check to ensure my favorite Liz pic has been posted...

>>79690712
I supposed that's why you have people like Death's apprentice, the Queen and a Samurai bodyguard - holding the leashes. Blue dorito gremlins are built different.

>>79691075
When you have a big job you call in the powers of the gods or better.
But would you wookit those cyute widdle puppers?

>>79691490
>GuyRyS gets to walk FuwaMoco with IRyS
The Good Life™

>>79691830
Truly the luckiest bastard.
Till IRyS ran them into a light post and split the car in half.

How long do you suppose it'll be before we get Cowkini Liz?
({Pic unrelated.)

>>79693017
Too long! Now that i think about it, the rate of new outfits have steadily increased, maybe it is in the cards, but not sure when

luv me liz
luv me justice
simple as

>>79693117
I just meant art, not official outfits, but I wouldn't say no to that. Sadly, her heartflame is also seriously impacting the amount of just plain ass pics. Need more of that Elizabeth Rose Bootyflame.

>>79693462
...so I can hit it from the back.

>>79693462
I like how short her outfit is. It'd be heaven to bury your head in there

>>79693660
Very inviting thighs.

So, I didn't even realize this at the time, but she did the whole rebellion intro in one breath? Nuts!
https://youtu.be/FSDqQXgIc6E

>>79693462
as an assman, yes indeed

>>79694033
Read ends are just so damned nice!

>>79693903
She is clearly both talented and trained, phenomenal singer

>>79694219
Rear* oops.
Marshmallows are also nice.

>>79694245
Definitely a lot to work with. I would really like to hear her sing something while putting a leash on her tendence to meander through her vocal range, just as a test of consistency. She's clearly got serious raw ability, but I would like to see it tested in that way.

>>79694626
True, faster paced songs to test her ability to stay on the beat. Funny enough, I think making her sing Japanese songs might force her to pay a lot of attention to syllables, and that might do the trick?

https://x.com/ERBloodflame/status/1807893580834279566
New timetable posted. Two more karaokes this week

>>79695856
I'd sure love to find out. I could see myself getting called the Cruel Angel's Thesis beggar on account of I want to hear every Holomem sing it and considering the number of versions already out it would be great for comparison. From there maybe Ranbu no Melody or some Ado? Would also love to hear her whip out some songs by other Holomems. Michizure and Caesura of Despair would be a great place to start.

Not to say that I don't dig her current habit of lots of unarchieds of stuff I can actually understand.

>>79699244
Steampunk Queen with wielding googles, my beloved !

>>79696934
Naisu, can't wait. Sounds like one unarchived and one archived?

>>79701325
Yeah that seems likely, one unarchived first so she can sing from a wide range of stuff she knows, and then an archived one where she will have time to practice for new (maybe hololive) songs and stuff that is DMCA safe.

Me and the boys

>>79703440
nice linework and color palette on that one, the Queen's guard is smooth !

>>79703440
I might've missed something, but why are we penglings? I remember her talking about making her crosshair in valorant one but I didn't hear anything about Rosarians being them

>>79704299
I don't remember either. I think artists just ran with it

erb!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfqhLsq0iw

hi girlies~

>>79707005
Hola

>>79705567
>Her voice when she gets flustered
Divine.

>>79696934
Her schedule looks like something IRyS would've done before it became clear the whole VSinger thing was a massive debuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vwgifNVdD0
I kneel to your oshi, ERB

>>79708883
We love everyone here

>>79708717
I think it is also a transition thing, if she is not a big gamer, still new to Hololive culture, it takes a moment finding your place and footing in it. She is leading with her strength while learning the ropes. Gotta get to know people, gotta learn Japanese, gotta get on schedule with the upcoming content, gotta buy new hardware, gotta figure out what to play. There are several other examples of this from EN and JP too, not sure about ID.

>>79710839
Is she the most groomable holo?

>>79711039
Think that award belongs to Subaru, from back when she was starting out. That girl was far removed from the scene when she started - and as a result was gullible to the tricks of both chat and otaku culture. But she took that shit in strides, filled her game catalogue, started watching anime and reading manga to catch up. Today she does long game sessions, and you can hardly tell how far she's come. Still think she is the funniest Ikemen in Hololive.

Reckon Liz has her own journey ahead of her too, its gonna be fun to watch. Personally do enjoy watching normies get inducted in to nerd culture, its funny to watch them take the baby steps, or seeing them approach what one finds familiar with fresh eyes. Hololive would be dull if they only hired sweaty hardcore gamers, or only Vsinger enthusiasts, or Influencers with a high social media game. Its funnier because its a mix of different people imo.

>>79709106
cute !

Is there a canon design for Rosarians yet?

>>79714648
Official? No. But most of the Rosarian fan arts I've seen are penguin knights

>>79714648
not that i know of, just fan-concepts so far

>>79711039
Yes.

>>79711039
She replied to that troll on Twitter. What do you think?

>>79707005
>Liz in a suit
I would like this outfit in the future, make her a jazz singer in a suit

How many weeks would it take her to stream regularly, 3 days without stream at her 2nd week is too much

>>79717945
No clue, could be making a setup transition. I know lots of the talents went through changing things around, buying new rigs and wrapping up prior arrangements early on

>>79717945
she's busy with her real career

>>79711039
Are married women groomable?

>>79719157
If they want to be…

>>79719157
anon, they call the husband-to-be 'the groom' for a reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSDqQXgIc6E

>>79712254
Say what you want about Liz, maybe not a big anime person but I don't think she's a normie/fresh to nerd culture.

>>79719810
breathing techniques + being able to sing from gut-chest-throat combined is a powerful madafuka

>>79712254
>liz
>brony
>normie
lol

Imagine if she sings this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD-OFP-0H5g

>>79720206
here is to hoping

>>79720206
Rivers in the Desert is THE DREAM man.
Fuck, I wish we had Persona song perms

>>79720844
copyright is the worst

>>79714648
I'm curious what form we'll take.

>>79708883
sad she had to go, but do respect taking time for her loved ones, priorities

>>79721729
I like the original take, for some reason, it reminds me of the Queen from Alice in Wonderland, and the talking flowers

>>79720844
>>79720919
She can't sing, even if it's an unarchived stream?

nini

>>79722665
Very inviting

>>79722597
they can, it just sucks that they have to jump through hoops; turning monetization on / off, worry about strikes, stream can not be left on archive

>>79722597
People brought it up plenty of times before but sometimes you can get slapped with a copyright strike while you're singing live. It's why we don't see anyone (Astel) singing Disney songs on stream anymore.

>>79722919
automated moderation and its consequences...
we really lost something great with those early morning (for me) streams, of Astel beaming with energy - for songs he had clearly memorized out of love

>>79714648
not a rosarian but i think you guys should push to become something like this but with a shield and also cuter
>>79721729 i like this, but i'm not sure if i am sold on the rose form

>>79723952
The cape and the shoulder guards are boss, not gonna argue with that, hope we get helmets at least

Goodnight Queen

>>79722665
I do like this ship, but have to wonder if Liz is not also a total bottom when push comes to shove

>>79662348
Joker Queen

>>79709106
pictures you can hear lol

>>79655818
Is she a britbong?

>>79657794
nice concept with the contrasting on the red banner, who made this? saucenao coming up blank

Gotta head off to work, have a good one anons. Catch you later !

hype for the stream tomorrow, gonna sleep now

All this time I was wondering how Holo managed to snag a complete normalfag who has a voice that could've worked in, at the very least, a local music industry in the middle of the brits and when I looked at her timetables it all clicked to me.

She's a hag with a regular job, isn't she?
God bless that's hot.

>>79730902
She's former VA

>>79731105
Imagine, if AI didn't replace her job we wouldn't have Liz right now.

Jesas

>>79703440
Pink penguins is pretty cute.

>>79735306
rape

erb

Marin cosplay Liz

https://x.com/MaisonDeCante46/status/1808075983377125823

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZXW_iXIrss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZXW_iXIrss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZXW_iXIrss
Did you listen to my cover today Rosarian

erb!

>>79739472
I didn't do it. Punish me

>>79739472
already did

Nyantcha did nothing to Liz.

Lizzie...

>>79738642
That bottom one is adorable.

>>79739472
I hope she never actually learns proper pronunciation.

Anyone got that picture of chibi Liz posing with her sword?

>>79744413
You'll have to be more specific.

>>79744413
Chibi image with chibi Liz doing her "sword in front over her with her hands resting on the pommel" pose

>>79744511
Whoops, see >>79744619

>>79744413

>>79745640
erbie

>>79745640
Yes perfect. Can someone with better photoshop skills than me please replace the creamer with this chibi image? Randy Savage did love Elizabeth, afterall

>>79737257
HOLY SEXO

>>79655818
Here's your fanbase mascot.

https://youtu.be/-GnLDJAgrws

>>79746766
Lizzie is the cream of the crop.

I don’t want to invite drama so ignore this if I’m speaking out of turn, but I’m kinda curious if you guys actually fall in love with streamers. I get that it may be the hobby culture or something but I just don’t understand personally. I’ve been looking around the board and trying to familiarize myself with convention so I fit in and there’s a lot of negativity against Liz for just talking to guys? These people don’t even watch her for goodness sake, and no one is forcing them to? I feel like there are a lot of problems stemming from this expectation for all vtubers to invest a bit into the GFE. Again, sorry about this and you guys don’t have to reply if you think this might attract flies, I’m just trying to word out my frustrations.

>>79750462
i fell in love with liz's voice and also mori's personality. so ye, it do be like dat. it's the kind of love wherein you're happy seeing a person succeed even if they never know you exist

>>79750462
That's just what naturally happens when anons shitpost too much and eventually attracts retards that actually believes or fallen into the shit they're shitposting about. There's no point in arguing here. Save your brain cells and ignore it. Hi Liz and no, I will not take my meds

>>79750301
I LOVE ELIZABETH, YEAAAAH

>>79750301
Perfection, many thanks!

>>79750462
Looks like bait but I'll humor it. Hololive attracts schizophrenic antis who always select one girl from any new gen and then shitpost about her 24/7 to try and convince people that a new talent is "hated".
It's just routine autism. Simply ignore and hope that the Janitors actually do their jobs for a change

Friendly reminder that Liz' next stream, which is an unarchived karaoke, is way earlier than usual at 6 PM/1800 JST

>>79751779
Apologies, I dislike bumping with random stuff so I tried putting out a thoughtful post. I did get some answers that gave me some insight, so I’ve learned from this.
>>79751530
Don’t some talents go egosearching? Tbh there’s not a lot of meaningful substance on this board, the occasional good funpost gets posted onto Twitter anyway, but I like reading what anons, who like the things I like, have to say, so I lurk in generals like these on other boards.

>>79750462
I won't tussle with nutters, they're barmy! Why should I give a toss about what they think/do?

>>79752817
I'll probably end up missing this one. I'll check in later though.

>>79750462
there's two sides to it, but the "hate" just comes from antis. thinking about it logically, none of them fell in love with Liz and then got burned and jealous that she supports Stars - they simply saw an opportunity to jump on some shitty non-drama and anti the latest "target", because that is their whole lives. this index is full of absolute fucking schizos like that.

the other side is just not liking mixed collabs etc and yes maybe being a gachikoi - and those people will simply find vtubers that suit them rather than shit stirring or going full anti about ones that don't suit them.

>>79707005
>>79716980
I dunno if jazz singer or stand up comic...

>>79719157
In the most literal sense possible they've already been groomed.

>>79737257
Sword too ornate... Can't hold on...

>>79748972
I'm sorry, but does this pic qualify as a... banger?

>>79750462
No harm in asking questions. I wouldn't say I literally fall in love with many, if any streamers, but I do enjoy what they do in a way similar to how I enjoy the company of friends. At the same time I might not be the one to ask on account of I'm much less interested in GFE than the girl next door or friend's dorky little sister experience.

>>79752817
OI! Who put the lights out?

One thing I find really cute about Liz is when she says "what the frig"
I love her bros... if she collabs with holostars weekly I'm not sure I'm going to be able to endure... a one off here and there I can handle at most...

>>79757278
As long as it's not Groombullet or Ruze.

>>79757278
>Weekly
You are overreacting. Most of them are already busy doing their own thing or having collabs amongst themselves. You'd be surprised how careful they usually are about these things.

>>79759238
>The Beach Episode™
I need that Justice appearance for the next Summer Event

>>79759238

>>79760443
>Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polkadot Bikini
HOLY SEX

How do we feel about pious Queens?

>Elizabeth
>Queen
>Queen Elizabeth
Reincarnation?

>>79761486
You tell me

>>79749501
Just needs a helmet and a sword, maybe a cape

>>79762272
nothing is truly lost in this world...

>>79763116
>The light in the eye grown dim, shall duly flame again
-Walt Whitman

>>79757278
Honestly I doubt she will. She's only ever mentioned them in her streams in context of the music she is singing. She clearly respects chubas who put out their own orisongs

>>79763939
makes sense for someone who is focused on music and clearly worked to train their own singing voice too, being a creator is its own fraternity of sorts

https://youtu.be/TKfqhLsq0iw?si=m7Ru4i2ZdNDeUcec

I love this dork very much

>>79764994
Needs a Low Tier God edit as a matter of urgency

>>79764994
That was a really fucking good Subaru impression right there

>>79765082
>... Unbirth yourself, HAHAHAHAHA...
>... Get Unbirthed
that's all we need

>>79764994
I look forward to referencing this in my first superchat to her

BROS I WONT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT. ARCHIVE THE KINO AND MY LIFE WILL BE YOURS. DONT LET THE FLAME DIE OUT.

>>79760443
nice

>>79767166
>2 fucking AM
Fuck me

>>79767166
the usual suspects should be there to record it all, they take pride in having unarchived streams in their pockets

>>79767166

>>79767994
Only reason I asked in here is cuz archiveanon in global said he won't bother with Justice unarchiveds. And I don't know any other avenues to get unarchiveds from lol.

Where is erb doro?

>>79768004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHzREY32tYQ

>>79768189
There are a couple of people clipping and recording her singing streams already, just search by the stream's name

>【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】Shall We Dance?~!
>【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】Kiss From A Rose?~!
>【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】Sing Song Innit~!

>>79768711
NICE!
I was thinking more about how to catch that vod, lmao

>>79768946
Ooh, I wasn't aware of that. Thank you and god bless.

>>79769029
You're welcome, I really like the singing aspect myself, so have a bunch of these clips/streams/channels bookmarked. Sometimes the vtubers sing a song in a way that sticks with you, and its really nice to then have a clip/audiofile of it so you can listen to it again

Why do Rosarians post like women?

>>79769776
Tee hee

>>79656703
Cute Hag LOVE

>>79769776
This is how nice folks in a friendly environment talk. You may have forgotten since /vt/ is schizoangst central

>>79770599
sad and true, this place have some people who are emotionally stunted in a bad way

>>79767688
same boat here, good thing I work from home, blessed be the digital age

>>79761486
Obviously

>>79658666
It was great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD4oUxeN9CY

humid summer nights~

>>79760443
OK, I keep seeing the bikini as yellow rather than the polka dots and I give up. I guess I'm the one who's wrong, but it still feels like the dots should be yellow. I wonder if everyone would agree with me if the order of descriptors were different.

>>79767166
I'm missing it, too. Or at least the start of it. Sort of have to. Being a RySarian I've got a prior engagement. Everybody gotta relax, though. Even if literally no one clips even a second of it the queen WILL be rebroadcasting. Keep the faith.

ELIZABETH
I AM BEGGING YOU
STREAM
FOR GOD's SAKE
PLEASE STREAM ALREADY
I LOVE YOUR VOICE
I JUST WANT TO LISTEN TO YOU
I CAN ONLY REWATCH YOUR EARLIER STREAMS SO MANY TIMES.
WHY AREN'T YOU STREAMING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

someone give me a rrat on why she's not streaming much if at all on her first week.

E

R

B

>>79773159
I think its because the yellow fabric with different color dots is a classic bikini design. You can find a bunch of old pictures with people wearing those. So its the default people go to - picrel.

We are all dipping after she collabs with Holostars right

(Squawk)

>>79774119
I wish she would kabedon me

>>79773159
well said anon, /vt/ is good at riling up a frenzy over nothingburgers, stay calm and trust the data hoarders

>>79769776
Some of them _are_ rosebushes

>>79774323
as a femanon, really like this one, am stealing it

>>79773822
What?

>>79774857
You don't dip?
Don't reply to it.

>watching Gigi beat the life out of sea-food is making me hungry
why did i not refill my fridge, being lazy sucks

>>79772398
This is the first time I've been able to understand the lyrics in this song. I love how clear her voice is

>>79776170
I was pleasantly surprised to hear her sing pop-punk too, because those singers usually do not have the clearest voices. It made the melodies stand out better imo

>>79663244
too many Bibbo-shavings will kill you tho, ingest responsibly

>>79750462
>>79752954
You are probably not here anymore, but in case you come back and are still trying to understand where all this comes from.
Fundamentally it's actually quite simple. It's about the culture of the branch. A big part of the appeal of hololive is that it is a group of women hanging out and making content together. Where they are the stars and main focus. It's why a lot of fans got into hololive and they want it to stay that way. There are a lot of different reasons why they want it to stay that way and some are better then others, sure.
The reason things got so messy is because in 2022 there seemed to be a big push to change things, it wasn't just tempus but they did become the focal point of the drama. It was seen as a push to change holoEN to be more like nijiEN. There was a lot of resistance to this from many of the fans, and seemingly a lot of the talents themslves. Which led to a lot of drama and the big fanbase war. At the end of 2022 management got overhauled and there was a hard pivot back the other way. You can call it the Idol direction, CGDCT, or whatever. Which got solidified as the branch culture by Advent leaning hard into it.
The negativity with Liz is mostly shitposters and people trying to reignite the fanbase drama, along with a bit of initial fear that would happen. It won't really amount to anything as long as the general fanbase doesn't start seeing her as trying to change things, or push the other girls into doing things they don't want to do.
Sorry for bothering the rest of you with the long rambling post

>>79777936
I mean, I've said this before, just don't give them yous.

>>79778232
I mostly just laugh at it. Internet outrage mobs and brigading always was pretty pathetic in my eyes. Hope you are a having a good night / day tho anon.

>>79777936
That makes sense. So it is part of old drama opponents are hoping to rekindle. It all did seem very blown out of proportion and fake to me, as a newcomer. Cheers for giving me a clearer picture anon.

>>79777936
Hey, thanks for taking the time to write this out, I think I’ve mostly got it now. Earlier I was a bit exasperated because there seemingly was a lot of fuss from people who don’t watch Liz, and at least I know now about this convoluted culture war, where some of them might be coming from, and the rest that are just here to start fights.

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>>79767688
Sorry bros. This is our turn now
t.sea

Anyone else keep listening to her songs and being stunned over and over?

>>79780303
luv me chuubas
luv me fellow chuuba fans
simple as
Have fun anon !

baker?

>>79780377
Yes!
been listening to Sway over and over, that one really suits her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eN8a-Ic_B4&t=7310s

>>79780925
I'm here, you want to take the next one?

>>79781152
Not really, I do appreciate your bakes. I was just making sure.

>>79781374
Cheers anon, any OP picture requests?

>>79781437
Here.
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>>79781437
this one ? >>79745640 if not dw

>>79781894
Will do !

bye thread