/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Think they'll do High School themed chuubas for 1st gen?

>>795730
Gonna be better than holoEN guaranteed

>>795730
On par with vshojo.

>>795771
Eh, I think vshojo is Nijisanji's vulgarity stretched to the comical degree (even without the actual pornstar). If anything I'd suspect they'll be a mid point between Holo and VShojo.

They're going to have a Gyaru Liver who posts nudes of herself on Onlyfans.

>>795730
they'll do just fine.

When should we expect them to get announced? I'm thinking next month.

>>795730
The fuck is up with the hands of that third guy? Is his lore hes actually a humanize onion ring?

Curious how western male vtubers will perform when they are given the spotlight.
The girls will half way between vShojo and Holo, but I'm worried the guys will just be gamer guys hired based on skill.
I'd rather watch a shitty gamer that is funny than a pro gamer with a dull personality.

>>795921
Literally the most popular male vtuber

>>795730
Irrelevancy. They won't be Vshojo levels of terrible (so nobody will shitpost about them) but they won't come close to Hololive levels of sheer talent.
They will have extremely underwhelming debuts and be promptly forgotten

>>795980
>hololive
>talent
Pick one

>>795818
>The nudes are officially drawn hentai by her designer
Would be incredibly based, especially since the 3Ds would seethe out of existence

>>795754
No chance in hell, twitter would cancel them for "sexualizing minors" within seconds

>>795730
More popular than Hana Macchia, less popular than Holo ID

>>796082
HoloID has less than 2k live views, I think they'll catch between 2k and somewhere below 5k.

>>795940
I'm seeing a patter Niji loves to do stuff by corporate books. I'm guessing they'll hire English streamers with textbook success like Ninja, Sodapoppin or Shroud, but I don't think they'll try finding new-age content creators like Mandalore or Jerma. They'll definitely try to replicate that old-school streamer success. I would be watching out some 1k+ streamer on twitch that would suddenly ghost.
However if they royally fuck up by hiring woke brand manager, then it would nosedive the whole EN vtubing scene. Let's hope not.

>>795921
Kuzuha is a vamp.

>>796051
HoloEN gets away with having two lolis.

>>795730
I want them to pull out all the stops. Get an actual manager and manage them. Not just let them do stuff alone.

What I worry is that they'll just do this like for one month. After that they don't even bother anymore. They need to actively manage these individuals.

>>796161
no they don't

>>795921
>>795946
Kuzuha is really popular. Has the highest views for any chuuba covering KING.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAcjv__fbc

>>795921
Yaoi hands

>>796138
A socialist debate bro would be hilarious.

>>796161
Ina isn't a loli, and Gura gets shit from the usual suspects but has the plausable deniability of being 9000 years old. Frankly I don't think Niji gives a shit about what those fags say but JK characters aren't anywhere near as popular in the west as in Japan

>>795730
Why are they so bad when compared to Hololive. Also that one chick who has her dad on stream is annoying as shit and seems to hate being a vtuber, she should quit.

>>796285
I still don't understand the appeal of that.

>>795730
>Native
while holosen 2 out of 5 are ESL, kek

>>796138
Ninisanji will be the first to go woke, their biggest english streamers already post wokeish stuff on twitter.

>>796004
EN has talented people it's just that they can be highly unlikable and/or unappealing to large audiences. Ina is a professional illustrator but she isn't an entertainer. Ame is good at graphics, Gura can sing, Mori is a talented animator and an okay rapper, and Kiara is Kiara.

>>795730
>native speakers only

>>796266
No way they hire an overtly political person as a liver.

>>796276
>>796213
Gura benefited from twitter outrage, you're worried about nothing

>>796306
Apparently that was a fuckup on the part of whoever translated the announcement from Japanese to English. In Japan Native is considered the highest level of proficiency, so in the Jap announcement it was Native level, but instead of translating it to "Fluent" whoever made that kept Native in.
So yes, they're accepting ESLs.

>>796285
It's almost surely her bf. She said she did it for the cash. Hana will probably graduate this year.

>>796312
You do know 3/5 holoEN member are SJW right?

>>796355
>Kiara is Kiara
I love this chicken like you wouldn't believe!

>>796266
>Destiny joins nijisanji
sign me up

>>796266
It would be the beggining of the end. You guys really need to understand SJW arent retards, they know what they are doing. Under their ideology any non woke institution is fundamentally oppressive and racist. Look up elevatorgate, in the early 2010s there was a growing online atheist movement until SJWs got to it.

>>796306
I don't think Ina is ESL, just Asian Canadian. First and Second Gen Asians in N.A. don't realize they sound Asian even without an accent.

>>796384
No ESL is going to apply when they read the first bullet point. The damage is done.

>>795730
>>expectations
Wokeshit
>>worries
Wokeshit

>>796398
and the other 2 used to post nigger on /a/

>>796398
Even if they are, they don't say any of that stuff in character and keep it to roomates, which is the main difference. You're more likely to get a Niji who'll say some woke shit on a stream or on the character twitter

>>796398
I know Kiara's roomate is woke, and Cali also seems a little woke, but who else? Please tell me not Gura or Ame, i can't that those news. Anyway Hololive seems to have changed Kiara's roomate, she seems less wokeish now.

>>796285
>don't even know her name
>yet seem to know enough to be an armchair manager
Apue

>>796413
>there was a growing online atheist movement
Is that supposed to be a good thing? Most SJWs aren't religious anyway.

>>796447
Used to watch her until her SJW started seeping in. Also like
>>796392 said, that guy sounds a little young to be her dad, i wouldn't be surprised if its her bf.

>>796446
Ina is the 3rd. Gura is non-political and probably couldn't give a shit about feminism and socialism. Ame is literally NAP adherent lolbertarian.

>>796413
I remember, guys were furiously tipping their fedoras until sjws turned them all into sissies, it was like the thing eating someone and replacing them.

>>795730
>Gender does not matter

I know this is meant to mean "we'll take boys as well as girls", but I wonder if their wording will make lots of trannies apply.

>>796454
Atheism is not the point, im trying to say SJWs toook down the atheist movement because they weren't woke enough. Look uo elevatorgate and new atheism. It was one of the first real SJW power moves.

>>796467
He's probably in his mid to late 30s and a legit groomer.

>>796446
>>796474
you do know both ina and cali are all bud confirmed /a/utists right?

>>795921
That "guy"s name is Kuzuha, the King of VTubers, and you'll respect him as such.

>>795730
>expectations
low, I just hope they are not woke bitches

>>796467
She lives in Indonesia and her dad can only speak English. Literally one of the stupidest rrats yet.

>>796474
>Ame is literally NAP adherent lolbertarian.
Wtf, I love Ame now!

>>796489
Damn, they really do eat their own first.
>>796497
There are a lot of lefty /a/utists these days. I haven't been on /a/ in years and it went to shit then.

>>796480
Imagine them reading the application paper and seeing the "specify gender" and there's only two options.

>>795917
Holo just announced auditions for their EN2, which means niji are done with theirs, so yeah, they'll debut in March most likely.

>>796510
You didn't disprove it though. She's going to uni and her "dad" doesn't live with her. It's a reasonable rrat.

>>796532
it doesn't matter to me what you think politically, if you're the type of person who can deal with the retards on /a/ and /v/ for any regular amount of time you're a reasonable enough person to know that you should keep wokeshit out of your job

>>796494
>groomer
Bro she's is her early 20s, what grooming. Bitch is a grown ass women.

>>796480
Hololive auditions have the same statement, even though they're clearly not accepting guys or making starsEN, it's just so they don't get blasted for being "exclusionary"

>>796489
>Atheism is not the point, im trying to say SJWs toook down the atheist movement because they weren't woke enough.
To be fair, the atheist movement at the time (especially as construted by Hitchens and Dawkins) targeted teenager too lazy to read books, with parents too tolerant to confront kids on their stupidity. It was never going to sustain itself.

>>796532
As a Christian, i didn't really know what SJWs were back then, i was just happy to see the Atheism movement crumble, little did i know It would get replaced by something far far worse.

>they wont be yab
>they wont be woke
>they (probably) wont know anything about their senpais
>there wont be any ESLs
>they will (most likely) play atlus and capcom games before holoen
>they will (probably) know more about hololive than nijisanji
>they will be the only english branch of a vtuber agency to actually collab with holoen (see: matsuri, marine, fubuki, okayu collab history)

>>796609
>As a Christian, i didn't really know what SJWs were back then
basically what christians did before SJWs, you fags are all the same with your cancel shit

>>796570
She hasn't always been over 20. I've known guys dating girls 15 years their senior since they were in first year high school.
My rrat is that Hana ERPs as Papa Macchia's daughter.

>>796609
Radical Marxism breeds in atheistic societies.

>>796552
NijisanjiEN and the VSinger(s) are going to debut at about the same time, which is going to be interesting. I wonder if Hololive's management will allow collaborations between Niji and Holo. It seems Enma and Jenma are running a much tighter ship.

>>796479
Lmao i remember all the fedora tippers back then, most bended to knee to SJWs. A strange amount of them turned into trannies. i was about to buy a fedora back then, im not an atheist , i just thought they look cool, until a friend of mine sat me down and told me i would look like an idiot and to not do it.

>>796636
The only way I see Gen 1 managers opening up to outside collabs is if Gen 2 has a less strict manager who lets the girls collab with Nijis.

>>796624
>they (probably) wont know anything about their senpais
To be fair, wasn't Hololive much more welcoming to EOPs, than Nijisanji?(before the EN debuts)
If I remember correctly Nijis didn't try nearly as hard to engage with the EOPs when they wondered into their chatrooms as Holos did.

>>796480
>>796547
You 2 realize Nijisanji already has some non-binary livers right? And I don't mean like Debi, I mean humans where the gender is "No." or "Secret". And that's along with the crossdressers and explicitly non-/u/ or /y/ bait gays. I'm not saying they'd hire extreme wokeshit ess jay dubyus, but if you're scared of some fag/tranny boogeyman it's kinda too late for you to look at 2434.

>>796657
That's a good friend.

>>796625
I never cancelled anyone, that was the white Christians. Hispanic Christians (not Catholic, like Christians) are much more chill.

>>796624
>HoloEN collab
Managers aside, that's assuming any of them would even want to. Kiara and Ame have both made it clear they intend to stay within the Hololive bubble for foreseeable future and Gura can't even seem to get collabs outside her gen. Mori and Ina would probably be the only ones receptive to Niji collabs

>>796632
>marxism
I been thinking about this and SJWs aren't really marxist. They say they want leftism but then are happy to have large intentional corporations promote woke shit. It's weird, and i think it needs analysis because they aren't marxist in the classical sense, i think they get called marxist because that was their inital background and we have no other word for it. They are a different and new kind of leftist.

>>796625
I've seen far more cancelling by the atheist god hater groups than I have Christians. Your side cancelled everything you disagreed with while you were being tolerated by the people you detest. All over the false assertion of separation of church and state which isn't even in the Constitution.

>>796677
Yeah we don't talk anymore unfortunately. Another friend of mine got drunk, and told her i had feelings for her, it really ruined the friendship cause she never saw me like, then she moved away for a job. Anyway sorry for the blogpost.

>>796718
>your side
you dumb nigger, i hate all of you, leftwing/rightwing SJWs, religionfags, you can all fuck off with your moral policing, especially here.

>>796515
ame also doesnt pay her taxes which is why she is fleeing to central america now

>>796718
Christians conservatives used to be the major cancelling power until the mid 2000s, when SJWs started gaining power. Nowadays they do very little cancelling.

this thread is awful

>>796382
I'm just saying that Gura is not even a loli

>>796678
Mexico never had any attacks on its religious communities to begin with. The notion that hispanic christians within the US didn't oppose the groups that sought their disruption is false.

>>796746
Have you tried not reading threads you don't like?

>>796783
nope

What the fuck is this...
Suddenly become a /pol/ thread.

>>796783
Not him, but he probably expected a thread about Nijisanji, not a political discussion.

>>796474
>Ina is the 3rd
how come?

>>796749
the type of people who would bitch about this don't give a single fuck about character age, infact that's the thing they go after the most

>>796671
no anon, there have always been niji livers who pandered to EOPs, but they don't get much traction because nijisanji as a whole is obscure to the west and their clips get buried under thousands and thousands of hololive clips.
https://youtu.be/I_BzNBgHOQE

>>796797
Given that nijisanji vtubers slip in woke stuff more and more, it's gonna get discussed.

>>796817
>vtubers
they're livers. it's obvious you don't watch them anyway though.

>>796557
wich is something Kiara must know really well, she even told twitchfags to fuck off

>>796817
Who? I've only seen Hana talk about it. And it was on twitter.

>>795980
Ah, so like every member of Nijisanji. They'll fit right in.

>>796676
This is a Hololive board, the faggots in here complaining about trans EOPS invading their corporate vtuber space don't realize that the Japanese are already cool with crossdressers, transgender and homo Vtubers unlike the butthurt idol faggots on this board.

>>796838
How the fuck is Kiara going from the holo with the wokest rommate to telling people to fuck off if they are offended.

>>796705
lol the general scapegoated "sjw" is about as left as your average democrat, most of them don't actually have convictions worth backing up. it is such a nonissue

>>796856
>the Japanese are already cool with crossdressers, transgender and homo
That's not SJW tho. SJW is a whole different brand of thinking.

>>796869
Kiaras SJWness is greatly exaggerated desu

>>796803
is not about her character age, nothing about Gura suggests she's a loli

>>796870
They aren't tho, your average SJW is prettt much a self described communist/socialist.

>>796830
shut up nerd

>>795730
I hope Gura throws shade on them

>>796887
Faggots on this board think that any mention or inclusion of trans or homoshit is "SJW"

So yes it is, SJW has no meaning anymore stop living in 2014 you faggot.

>>796934
dont care fagggggggggg

>>796276
>the plausable deniability of being 9000 years old.
No one considers that an excuse though. I think the fact that Gura isn't sexualized is a bigger factor in keeping controversy away.

>>796890
It isn't or at least it wasn't. There is proof her roomate was a major SJW and that's all im gonna say on that.

the truth is idolpigs don't want any competition against their precious unicorn pandering entertainers so they just make up some sjw scare to get people to hate anyone that's not from their side

>>796902
Were you really not around when they literally tried to go after Gura because she was misspelling words on her debut intentionally and based on character design alone?
It doesn't matter either way is what I'm getting at, as far as western internet is concerned the more they go after something the more popular it becomes

>>796678
>Hispanic Christians
>(not Catholic,
Does not compute.

>>796474

>Ina

???

>>796934
Shut the fuck up faggot. You are the one who doesn't understand shit, even using the word "inclusion" here shows you are a retard who doesn't understand nippon thinking. Keep being a retatd.

>>796856
>This is a Hololive board
Fuck off to >>>/mlp/ .

>>796957
I have only ever seen one screenshot reposted over and over again

>>796989
did you read the rest of his post?

>>796276
loli is a character desing, nothing to do with age. Neither Ina and Gura are lolis

>>796975
There is a lot (A LOT) of Christian non-catholic in hispanic countries and also in the hispanic community in the US. It has been a rapidly growing demographic for around 2 or 3 decades now.

>>797003
what about it

>>796934
Nobody gave a fuck about Kaoru or Kira, the Jap attitude to crossdressers is 100% different to the western one

>>797003
Idolfags are too busy deluding themselves into thinking their dogshit chuubas are talented to develop reading comprehension.

You retards should take a lesson from hololive chads and stop letting politics into your threads.

>>796960
The thing that confuses me is why they act scared about it instead of going "Nijisanji is already SJW so it'll be awful for sure!!!!11!"
But I guess then they have to acknowledge LGBT people exist in Japan even if they don't have the whole woke environment around them, and that's too much.

>>797072
jesus stop trying to tribalfag you dumbass. it's undeniable that this board is run by holofags, that doesn't mean you should target your frustration towards their chuubas.

>>797060
>Nobody gave a fuck about Kaoru
not until he cheated on his wife with shion

>>797187
>spoiler
that mesugaki, she can't keep getting away with it!

In how long can we expect them to debut?

This is really tiresome.. I'm expecting some discussion about OP related topic for awhile instead I got /pol/ sjw atheist or whatever off topic shit anon discussed...
This is why >>>/po/ will always be the best board in this site

>>797245
origami does rule the site

>>796697
I can basically assure you that there'll be a big HoloEn/NijiEn collab maybe 3 or 4 months after Niji debuts.
And if Niji gets EU people I can see Ina or Kiara collabing with them more often just based on timeslots

>>797245
right thread polchad!!!!!!!!!!

>>797232
March, most likely.

>>796838
Clip or never happened

>>797291
I'm glad you brought it up
https://streamable.com/jadbfh

>>797245
This is completely related, since several western vtubers can't stop themselves from ruining their reputations by parading their politics on their platforms and whether their managers are ok or not is still a mystery.

>>797074
Who do you think is the majority in this thread/board?

>>797266
I can't wait for the Niji Holo EN among us collab everyone but Gura will be in!

>>796830
Even nijisanji calls them vtubers most of the time in their English stuff.
Livers is japanglish, it doesn't work very well in English, most people would think of the organ.

>>797415
It is not about the organ?

>>797409
I'm sure at that point there'll be a new FOTM game

>>797409
to be fair that slot can easily be filled with vsinger-chan or gen2 when the time comes

>>795730
No expectations, but it'd be down for a real shitshow and vtuber meltdowns.

>>797440
No, it's a made up word that comes from "live", as in live streaming.

>>797415
>japanglish
和製英語だよ!ww

>>797473
Yes, it's wasei-eigo.

Do Nijis also have a collab ban time or is that exclusive of Hololive?

>>797415
yeah but the pronounciation is different

>>796934
>SJW has no meaning anymore
There is a big difference between being ok with gender neutral or homosex and pic related. Almost all of them will make their politics known in some way because that's their identity as a leftoid.

>>797523
Sure it's pronounced differently but most people reading it for the first time wouldn't think that.

>>797359
>Managers
Literally no westerns even managers except for Tsunderia and that's just slugma and char

>>797605
just italicize the "live" part. or make it colorful or part of a logo or something so it's more obvious. it'll catch on fine. virtual youtuber is a japanese phrase that sounds kinda silly in english too

>>797605
>>797641
Get ready for people to call them Nijis. Just accept it.

>>797680
Nijitubers

>>795730
>Nijisanji EN
>expectations
WELCOME TO NIJISANJI
100 chuuba debut, one chuuba relevant
>worries
no chuuba relevant

>>797576
>Almost all of them
Wow it’s as if you actually wouldn’t know if someone’s a leftist or right wing or anything else until they outwardly speak about it (Zen is a retard though)

>>797576
how is this even sjw at all? You're only proving that other post right

I expect complete and utter failure. Perhaps they'll garner some attention for a bit, but it won't last.
At best, one of them'll do okay - as in, like 1k - 2k viewers live.

>>795730
>Expectations
Nijisanji ID 2.0; still entertaining despite low viewership

>Worries
They don't know much about Nijisanji + they don't have any interesting talents or traits to compensate

I kept seeing posts here that claimed their audition video is still at 0 views, so this implies they aren't really looking for men. Could this actually be the case, or are the scouters just saving themselves time based on other criteria in the application form? I think there has to be at least one man in the lineup

>>797710
>100 chuuba debut
Nigga, look at their 2020 debuts. They've learned their lesson. It's going to be 6 people at most.

>>797576
That's not being SJW, that's just being so immersed into politics that you think you HAVE to say it everywhere.

>>797744
I think the only way they're going to do well is if they debut a male liver before cover gets around to doing holostarsEN. I think there's a good chance if they got a dude with a "good" personality like ludwig, sykkuno, or corpse they'd take off

>>795730
Meh, unless they don't do quality control like their JP branch then there will be tons of yab

>>797746
Looking at Q3 in >>797762
there were 0 males in the latest JP debut. Maybe Nijisanji is cutting that rope?

>>797576
If I was ''non-political'' and was upset about this particular situation, I'd have posted on my roommate account
Only reason to post it on your chuber account is for twitter bux

>>797762
I'm surprised that Debiru is decently popular.

>>797847
Don't think so. That chart only shows the JP branch. ID Gen 5 (November debut) has a dude.

>>797829
>ludwig
Doesn't the guy get like 20-30k viewers live? Why the fuck would he ever join up?
Honestly, there is no reason for any established, even upper middle tier streamer to join up, considering they'd lose a chunk of their viewership and would lose their autonomy to boot.
That's the biggest problem male vtubers have in the west, anyways. There's a shitton of male streamers and established cliques, if you want to make it big, you usually cozy up to one of them, as the industry is fucking jam packed by people that are popular and have been popular for a while now. People like Jerma or Northernlion or the former TBFP clique (save for Liam, lol) have super hardcore fans, get like at least 5k viewers live and they're not even close to being in the upper echelon of streamers.

>>797891
Boosted by Luna

>>797023
That's a psy-ops mission by the U.S. government. They sent evangelicals and Mormons to colonize third world countries.

>>797891
Really? If anything I find the lack of cute creature vtubers surprising.

>>797922
I meant people with a similar personality to the examples I gave, not literally those people signing up for nijisanjiEN lol

>>797942
and Patra

>>797978
And Koro

>>797970
I don't know, it'd be kinda funny to suddenly see someone like XqC sign up, become a vtuber and be completely nonchalant about it.

>>797732
In these days of rising fascism, being against racism is seen as "political".

>>797986
And Lulu

>>795730
>gender does not matter
Into the trash

>>797991
XqCLlllllllllLLLLLLLLLLlllllllLLLLiver

So how successful does a vtuber have to be, to do streaming fulltime?

>>798016
100k subs
don't even need supachat, the ads will do fine

>>798016
Is not Nijis are mostly part time streamer?

>>795730
>expectations
NijiID
>worries
Twitch thots behind an anime avatar (pokimane)

>>798007
Didn't holo EN2 recruiment tweet have that as well

>>798016
500-1k live viewers for twitch, I think.

>>795730
>worries
Reddit Meme Reviews, and then all of you in suicide watch after that.

>>798061
essentially, it mentioned they're recruiting for holoEN2 and HolostarsEN

>>798016
>>798033
It depends on your contract / how adsense ranks your videos, what sort of content you produce, viewer retention and shit - there's a ton of factors that go into the calculation. Of course, one of the biggest factors are also your living expenses.

>>798078
Somewhere around that number, yeah. I know of twitch streamers that live in fucking New York and that survive just fine off of a community of like, 500 average viewers.

>>797781
>immersed into politics that you think you HAVE to say it everywhere
>being an aggressive progressive aka social justice warrior
it's quite literally in the name and that's the definition.

>>798156
What definition, anon? Show me your dictionary

>politifags
You niggers need to get your shit together, before you hurt the EN branch, the talent or Nijisanji as a whole.

>>798217
They will do it themselves just like HoloEN 2 will.
You can't hire several english speaking girls without at least one of them being an SJW, a trump retard, a karen or just a "we must use our platforms to stand up" girl.

>>798280
oh look it's the same doomposters from a year ago. aren't you tired of being proven wrong?

>>798280
there are plenty of English speakers that aren't American, Canadian or from the UK

>>798402
Aussie's english is not even english anymore

>>796138
I don't know who any of those people are really all that well but they can get some interesting and/or talented people who do some odd and unique content.

You have people like Joe who can sing great, funny, does some downright odd stuff
https://files.catbox.moe/62c4ww.webm
https://youtu.be/qqbm9Fq8ItY?t=273
https://twitter.com/JoeRikiichi/status/1359128328725176320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvfQzIkrkT8

Or Roha from the KR branch who does 3D piano streams mixing well known anison type stuff with classical pieces and jojo references and does a cover of Japanese new wave band from the 70s/80s and had weird introduction to her first stream where she was a rocket crashing into the company CEO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBX2PXBUVwE
https://youtu.be/hXuJ89Og3aA?t=71
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTKk_tA3Zq4

Chima who can sing opera stuff and focuses mainly on singing streams but also uses that talent in interesting ways like preparing versions of songs where there can be up to 5 of her singing it or doing dumb memey things like funny lyrics swaps and singing the same song for 8hrs straight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z39--ZYaes
https://youtu.be/BgMWNpHb0Eo?t=85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T50_nR2c11E

Then you have someone like Noraneko who is just pure chaos. Mito and Sayo Amemori types?

>>795730
If they decide to do a male-female group and make them collab all the time like HoloEN then I guarantee you NijiEN is dead on arrival. They should do the Hololive idol approach instead of making a mixed male-female group because western vtuber fans don't watch male vtubers and I doubt they like it when their favorite female v-tuber does 1on1 collab with a male v-tuber.

>>798016
Devin Nash said that youtubers can make minimum wage from adsense alone off of their videos usually at around 10,000 subscribers and if you use an adsense calculator with a CPM of $3-$6 he's kinda right. The problem is chuubas are that they're fucking stupid and lazy as shit and don't know how to monetize their channels and just do livestreaming content only.

>>798555
I feel like that attitude is much more present in this specific community than it is outside of it. I have seen people post plenty of times about how people on the Hololive reddit are whining about the separation and getting support for there being more male/female collabs. As for not watching males generally I guess that is true currently but then nobody was pulling HoloEN numbers as a female either. So the idea that they could be miles ahead of any of the male indie vtubers currently doesn't seem too far fetched even if that isn't getting 10k+ viewers.

Will this make the nijiggers leave the reservation and finally ruin this board?

>>795730
We have yet to see if Niji actually understands the english market and can scout talent properly. Their ID branch actually has some decent people, but they just don't really pull many viewers.
I wouldn't expect any of NijiED to get even close to HoloEN numbers, heck, it will probably be even lower than Vshoujo numbers, because their brand currently has like 0 presence in the west.
Probably your best bet if you want to be a male Vtuber though.

>>798876
Most of the people posting about it are going to be interested Hololive fans more than likely I would expect. There really isn't some huge community of Nijisanji fans on this website in general. The actual legitimate threads for the topic take days to go through and often have less IPs than this one.

>>797762
Suprised how many nijilivers i recognized from either clips or doujins

>>795730
Niji has yet to show us a successful overseas talent. Their best could barely beat a dead Aloe and is totally outclassed by HoloIDs. As a brand, they are overrated. I doubt they could even beat VShojo without Sony's backing.

>>798810
>I feel like that attitude is much more present in this specific community than it is outside of it.
Because this place has no filter. If you say you don't want Subaru to collab with Maimoto in reddit you get downvoted to death. Just look at the numbers, there is a reason why Nijifemales numbers are so shit compared to Hololive.

>>799090
What is with Hololive fans and always bringing up Sony? Nobody is always bringing up the fact that Cover has significant investment from one of the largest mutli-national advertising firms in Japan or that the 2nd largest banking group has invested in them multiple times over.

>>799156
the lack of sony permissions

>>799093
>If you say you don't want Subaru to collab with Maimoto in reddit you get downvoted to death
thats because its an unpopular opinion there you retarded faggot

>>799184
Even Nijisanji doesn't have that though? Look how nobody at all played the new Spiderman game despite there being many big marvel fans among the members. It's Sony Music Entertainment specifically that invested in them.

>>799197
but it's not an unpopular opinion with a majority of the fanbase

>"Hey babe"

>>799227
then he wouldnt be getting downvoted retard

>>799217
I didn't say that it's a good reason, I just stated the reason

>>799156
For some reason there's an obessession with wanting Holos to play Sony exclusives, even though only a few of them would make good stream games, and most of the best streaming options are on the older consoles

>>799242
the majority of people watching any given hololiveJP member are not EOPs on reddit dumbass

ITT: EOP's who mostly have small knowledge of nijisanji from clips and mostly shitposting from holothreads.

>>796994
>chat spamming trans rights a month ago
>kiara says “I agree but please stop spamming”

Kiara based

>>799156
Niji just doesn't know how to maximize their resources. They have a great talent in Chigusa but look at her now. She's left to rot down there.
Compare her to indies associated with Hololive like Delutaya, Uto, former chink Holos and you'll see how pathetic Niji as a brand.

>>798555
This is a bad take. Mixed collabs are based and you Holofags are missing out

>>799393
Chigusa is going to play Apex with Akasaka Aka in the CR cup.

>>799422
She's a premiere talent though. She should have numbers like Polka but right now she couldn't be more relevant than the dead Aloe.

>>799393
Isn't Hisui the only one from that generation that was able to gain some traction? Whoever her character designer is needs a fucking medal.

>>799468
Why should she have numbers like polka?

>>799546
Hisui and Chigusa are the only ones that regularly stream. Akane plays next to no games or horror games only for reactions, and the rest is talking/singing/events. Kohaku streams like once a week, and Ngo probably really doesn't care.

>>795818
>>796033
The VShojo threads is 2 blocks down anons.

>>799687
Kohaku used to stream 3 times a week, but I think the low numbers got to her.

>>796856
Anon Japanese culture and thought on those topics is about the same as how they view lolicons most people think they are degenerate sex weirdos but put them in the harmless territory of those sex weirdos

>>799874
To be fair, Japanese culture considers anime fans a degenerate sex weirdos.

>>795940
We'll see, there was a thread some days ago with several people wanting to watch someone who is good at what they play, or at least not trash, so the market is there; if we go to real livers that's also how shroud made his entire career in streaming so it can work.

>>795730
I expect Nijisanji to be less restrictive than Hololive who wants to mantain that idol-image. Maybe more collabs with other branches and outside of Niji.
But with being less carefull about maintaining a good image there will probably be a lot more drama and incidents compared to hololive. Especially with vtubers becoming more popular since Holo EN it will only be a matter of time untill one of them will become the victim of cancel culture.
My worries is that they will either cause some drama or end up being some boring ex-twitch streamers with an anime avatar.

>>796398
HoloEN are woke in private, I was watching Noor's P4G gameplay and she was constantly being annoying with SJW rethoric and sighing all the fucking time, it was unbearable.

>>799874
I think what he was getting at was that in the context of vtubers, in the japanese fanbase nobody really seems to care. They are treated more or less the same as anyone else by the fans and the colleagues. But yeah it doesn't really seem to have anything to do with being woke in the western sense or whatever as much as it seemingly not being seen as a massive issue to begin.

>>799324
oh no what an SJW thing to say

>>799815
Such a shame too, she and Suo are my favorite of that gen, but it's a fact that low energy chubas always stay at the low end, this is true even inside hololive.
Kohaku's ASMR streams are one of the few that gets me going.

>>800277
>low energy chubas always stay at the low end
Okayu and Ayame are popular.

>>799578
Before joining Nijisanji Chigusa was a decently large indie vtuber, much the same way polka was. All things being equal they should be on par with each other but right now Polka so completely destroys her it's not even funny.

>>800403
They weren't even close to being the same size before though. Chigusa had around 40k subs and got around 200-300 viewers. Polka had around 200k and was often around 1-2k viewers. So Polka was about 5 times larger. Do you not bother to do basic fact checking before writing this kind of stuff or is anything fine if it fits with the narrative?

>>800403
>indie vtuber, much the same way polka was
Anon, if you're going to shitpost you have to at least get your facts right to make it plausible.

>>800535
focus on the "Decently large...vtuber" part, not the "Indie vtuber" part.
In retrospect I should've just dropped the indie from my sentence but oh well.

>>799234
"Whatup baby?"
I fukin wish, he's not going to be a vtuber.

>>800550
>>800515
Even the decently large part isn't exactly accurate though.

>>800588
40k is pretty large for a vtuber, especially back in early 2020 when Fubuki had barely above 300k subs.

>>795771
Nijisanji won't get THAT bad.

>>795730
It's going to fail because nobody cares about Nijisanji outside of Japan and Liver is a retarded name. Even Nijiniggers will stop caring about them in a month and go back to trying to shit stir Hololive.

>>800389
Ayame is pretty normal, not a low energy one, Ina is the lowest of her gen, I'll give you Okayu but Mio is dead last 200k behind her, same thing with Flare in 3rd gen

>>800615
The suggestion being made though is that since they were similarly/comparably successful before hand they should be similarly successful now if it wasn't for the difference in the companies they joined. But it quite clearly isn't the case that they were.

>>796138
>Mandalore
Keep the insanity streams small and special, sacrifice Sseth instead.

>>796978
>>796800
Beecause he said so of course, guys retarded

>>800641
Do you think those people that shit up Hololive threads are genuine fans? I just find it kind of hard to believe. Like would you specifically shitpost with pictures of one of your genuine favorites from a company you like in a way that is only going to cultivate hatred towards them, the company in general and your fanbase? Seems more like obvious falseflagging for easy replies to me.

>>801133
Do you think the person you're responding to is genuinely a Hololive fan? Why ask questions you know the answers to?

>>795730
>expectations
I feel like they'll try to be too much like HoloEN at first, but then they'll branch off into their own thing as time goes on.

>worries
tribalfag shit from newfags like "unlike hololive, NijisaniEN is about the characters" and the like

>>797995
>these days of rising fascism
It's amazing that people like this actually exist.

>>799324
>>800262
I don't think that ever happened.

>>795730
I don't hate Nijisanji but I heard they were looking to hire Veibae before she declined so I don't exactly have high expectations. With that being said I don't actually expect them to get a woke personality on board as that'd make the Japanese Nijis look bad, moreso people without a filter and a bad personality.

>>795730
I have no expectations, therefore, no worries

>>799234
>*shits aggressively

>expectatons
Bigtits, Monster girls(no nekoshit), Mommy (true)
>worries
Males, to many males, trannies

>>801699
Man, I'd love if we could get someone fun like Chaika. None of this head-up-your-ass bullshit that's around social networks.

>>801699
>Monster girls
If anything I'm expecting High Schoolers.

So when is this gen actually looking to debut? I haven't heard anything date wise

>>802047
The common speculation at the moment seems to be anywhere in March or April but that isn't really based off of anything concrete. Just that people assume it wont be until at least after Nijifes this month because that will be a busy time for the company and it will have been around 4 months since the auditions by then.

>>801981
>High Schoolers
Too recent. They already did that with SeleJo.

>>798217
>implying everyone in this thread watch niji kek
Every niji thread in this board is niji anti thread, I don't know why niji gets anti when they isn't even popular in the west in the first place

>>802193
Eh, it's a first gen for the Branch. Frankly I don't think HS will be as popular, so going with Anything Else will probably be wiser, but the company seems to like their high school them.
Also, Hololive did monster girls, so they'll likely try to avoid direct comparission.

>>802656
Before the most recent batch I count around 40+ members that weren't a typical high school type setting or appearance.

I only want a guy with a robot design. In the Apex' Pathfinder key. Without live2d straight into home 3d model. Not gonna happen, I know.

Why the fuck is everyone opening an English branch

>>802906
>everyone
Just two of the biggest companies?

>>802656
Maybe they will use some old character concepts that they can't get the right VA for it

Nijisanji just needs to do enough for the EN to take awhile some of the competition from Holo. Holo will still be the top when it comes to overseas, but Nijisanji can get a piece of the pie with the overseas if they play their cards right and make a profit.

>>802966
They still have this guy they auditioned for and never debuted

>>803063

>>802656
>Hololive did monster girls
Holomyth aren't monmusu in traditional sense though. All of them look like regular humans. Shark tail and phoenix feathers are nekomimi tier shit. Mori is a Grim Reaper using a normal girl's body. Ina and Ame are both humans. A proper monmusu gen would be far more bizarre like a dullahan, lamia, harpy, youkai etc. the works.

>>803100
steampunk loli looked cute too

>>802966
>>803063
Would be hilarious if Yudrick became an EN member

>>803063
>>803100
Holy shit I just coom'd.

>>803063
>>803100
The design is cool but you can’t see anything other than the eyes. Vtubers don’t move much in comparison to actual humans so they need all the facial movement they can get.

>>803270
Maybe they decided it wouldn't work at some point and that is why it never actually got used.

>>803270
Why not just make a helmetless variant then?

>>803172

>>803270
Still can't get a female with deep voice enough

>>803324
Replaced by Ratna, probably. It’s a shame since this design is much cuter.

>>803388
didn't she debut before those auditions?

>>803388
just checked yeah she did those auditions were in december 2019, she debuted in august

>>796213
>>796276
Was there an actual shitstorm or was it just some random who?s on twitter just tweeting shit you have to dig for? I've really never noticed the cancel loli shit for EN except when people talk about it here or in some youtube videos.

>>796312
Who?

Hopefully, the EN n JP branch goes full EOP pandering. I wanna see the niji discord lose their shit.

>>802874
>I only want a guy with a robot design.
One: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClA4Orc46xfb2F5XoBCx_Cg
Two: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdYrbtPC6LTyBNr3_D-x1Pg
Three: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0aXcLThZYwaxUukLhmVBng
Four: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDy5uMhTY750kN7hMcpj-dQ
Five: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfq976egmxT9CINR-12Tm6Q

>>803155
Any vtubers you'd give as an example of what you want?

>>803608
Bestter post more narrative shits of them then

>>795730
>expectations
none
>worries
plenty

>>795730
>Expectations
None of them will be as good as Sister Claire
>worries
They'll still eclipse her in popularity somehow.

>>797187
>rapes marine
>cheats with karou
>sold the drugs to monoe
dang she really is a witch

>>803816
I don't want to poke a wound, but isn't Sister Claire...stuck at ~350k subs? I don't expect NijiEN to do as well as the Holos, but I do expect them all to break 400k.

>>803959
Damn brat needs to be Asanagi'ed.

>>804011
Is there really good reason to expect that? Not saying its impossible but its not as if any of their other English speaking vtubers have had explosive success just because they speak English.

>>803622
Now I think they need a panel on the face to show kaomojis attached to facial expressions. Something like what Eve from Wall-E had or the aforementioned Path.
The boys are cute. Thanks.

>>804111
I think we'll need a definition of "a good reason". I just think that a lot (not all) of the people that were present in the original HoloEN debut are still around, they're just either not the type to stick to a chuuba for a long time or didn't have anyone click with them.
Unlike indies I think Nijisanji has the brand power to get them to notice the debuts. Actually I expect their audience to come from the people Hololive bled, rather than steal anyone actively engaged with the Holos.
I don't have any solid numbers for that, but if anyone besides Hololive can make a noticeable entrance, it's Nijisanji and the English market is still big - even if it's not as massive as the initial Hololive "boom" made it seem.

>>798555
This post was written by a man who didn't see the reaction to the announcement that Ars and Ebio are participating in the CR cup as part of the same team.

>>803816
>Sister Claire
>Catholic nun
>her background isn't monastery / nunnery
I cannot express my disappointment.

>>804315
Ars Ebio is a very special case that built up over weeks/months, do you really want to see shipping extravaganza on week 1 of their debut? This is where I'm personally concerned. I'd like it if they built their own personalities up before engaging in mixed sex collabs just to prove a point or something.

>>804315
A good number of the more popular clips on the official subbed channel are collabs of males and females together. Belmond with Ange, Hoshikawa with Kanae, Chihiro/Kuzuha/Kanae, Belmond with Sukoya, Akina with Hoshikawa, Gamers playing project winter.

>>804514
>Shipping extravaganza on week 1
That can happen even without male/female interaction, look at TakaMori

>>804011
>but I do expect them all to break 400k.
Lol, do you even know anyone outside of hololive bubble? At best they can reach the number of Hana, I bet they will only getting around NijiKR's numbers

>>795730
>expectations
Good chemistry like Hana and Bonnivier.
>worries
Not being able to stay in character. Retirement one of the member on day 0.

>>804514
>I'd like it if they built their own personalities up before engaging in mixed sex collabs
Don't see how those things are exclusive. Collabs, mixed sex or not, are a great way to show the audience who you are.
>>804647
Think of it this way: Hana is where she is DESPITE being part of Nijisanji ID.
A Hana who's part of Nijisanji EN would no doubt surpass her before long.

>>803646
>medusa (kino live2d)
https://twitter.com/mimika_morph
>moth
https://twitter.com/Egocider
>oni
https://twitter.com/akumioni
>zombie
https://twitter.com/kureijiollie

>>804742
>A Hana who's part of Nijisanji EN would no doubt surpass her before long.
That's what you think, Niji doesn't have that much of fan in the west, do you think they will magically subscribe to them when they speak english? It doesn't work that way

>>804770
The Moth is cute, the Oni hasn't debuted yet, we all know Ollie and I know the Medusa, but the discrapency between voice and female model filters me.
Honestly, the Moth looks too risky for something like Hololive or Nijisanji, but I can see something like the Oni coming to Big Brand vtubers.

>>804919
Nijisanji with the koala and the literal dog?

>>796285
> So bad compared to hololive
> Between 104 of their vtubers, more than half are above at least 100k

>>803155
You forgot Ollie

>>795771
it might be but not as whorish. Kind of like a regular streamer but behind on an avatar

>>804985
Point taken

>>805055
Although you do kind of have a point too, I doubt they are going to do anything that out there for a first gen.

>>805035
We're discussing first EN liver batches for both agencies. Ollie is ID so I left her out.

>>803100
>>803063
That's fucking awesome but idk who could voice him other than Norio Wakamoto.

>>796852
Imagine thinking like this when there's members with 700k, 600k, 500k, 400k, 300k, 200k and so on

>>804011
That's like really good for Niji. Hololive is the exception when it comes to numbers.

>>795755
Kek

>>804892
>do you think they will magically subscribe to them when they speak english?
No, but I do think that a Niji EN vtuber who's at least on the same level as Hana would do better than Hana simply because nobody is filtered by a label denoting fucking Indonesia as the target audience.

>>804498
Same, desu.
At least Abigail is there for us.

>>796500
>king of vtubers
Pfft

>>804011
>>I don't want to poke a wound, but isn't Sister Claire...stuck at ~350k subs?
Yeah.
She's my favorite and she deserves better, but that's about where she's going to be because light, low-emotion, positive vtubers don't seem to attract much of an audience.

>>796004
Why so butthurt?

>>804892
It's weird, when you look at measures outside of 4chan some of it seems like the amount of interest in Nijisanji now from the west is comparable to Hololive in early 2020. Google trends when you look at the searches they are about the same if you compare present Nijisanji with early 2020 Hololive and the reddits are about the same size in subs if you make the same comparison.

But it doesn't feel like that when you look at the chats or whatever when they are streaming or the amount of clips they are getting. I remember there being a lot more translated clip sand English in the Hololive chats back then than I see in Nijisanji ones now.

>>805171
She's bottom of the rung internally in nijisanji too, viewership wise anyway. She's probably doing pretty good merch wise compared to the others.

>>795730
>Good numbers during the first month
>Decent numbers after the first month
>Poorly numbers once HoloEN gen 2 debuts

>>805301
She seems like she's fairly steady on numbers.
Merch wise, though? I haven't heard of that.

>>805279
>But it doesn't feel like that when you look at the chats or whatever when they are streaming or the amount of clips they are getting. I remember there being a lot more translated clip sand English in the Hololive chats back then than I see in Nijisanji ones now.
Because Niji's Japanese fans outnumber eop, remember Niji still has the largest Japanese fanbase in Japan

>>805301
>She's bottom of the rung internally in nijisanji too
The fuck does that mean?

>>805432
That mean the only thing he can understand in her stream is the numbers, everything else is in japanese

>>796636
If Enma is inteligent she wont allow a collab

>>805412
Also most of them ignored eng comment so eop will get bored after a while

>>796624
>atlus
I stop reading

>>805301
well, she keeps doing these typing ASMR shit and it's so tiresome. Literally one of the laziest type of content to make

>>805560
I don't really watch Hololive but how much more they interact with English comments if nijis level in comparison is "ignored"?

>>805659
She should start doing Sunday Sermons.

>>797576
I'm glad holo EN dodged this.

>>805675
1 for niji and 10 for holo

>>797266
I can assure you that Cover will not allow a collab with Niji EN, this is beyond the talents, this is about who rules the global market. Any collab between HoloEN and NijiEN only benefits Ichikara

>>797266
Who would organize it though?
Kiara has been organizing most of the large group collabs that involve HoloEN and she has no interest outside of Hololive other than Veibae.

>>797266
This>>805766
Even the collab between holoJP and nijiJP is rare now

>>805766
Ichikara allows NijiJP/HoloJP collabs despite them only benefiting Cover, though.

>>805432
She seems to get good opportunities regardless of what her numbers are. The whole Denonbu thing, part of the nationwide tour, was part of a 3 man VR live a few months back, gets a stage at Nijifes, was part of the talkavout thing last year, seems to have a good amount of merchandise.

>>797504
no they don't

>>797710
If you think that between their 104, only a few are relevant you might need to take a look at others, from subscriptions to live numbers

And it's not like all hololive are relevant either. lol

>>800643
What about Lamy then? Shes calm and low energy too yet shes already over 500k

>>797762
Yeah, they are slowing down a lot since 2020, at least for jp branch.

You people are afraid of big group debuts, but that's exactly what gave Nijisanji Gen 1, GAMERS, and SEEDs their soul. Not denying that the later generations don't have this, they're just different.
If nijisanji en debuts with 10 people that's not a bad thing.

>>803334
What a shame that Towa auditioned for hololive.

>>806342
No they have to copy holoEN exactly or they're bad!!!

>>799184
You mean the permissions that Miko has to play uncharted?

>>805279
They had the market in early 2020 but they didn't utilize it.

>>799156
They don't understand how investment works and think Sony owns ichikara, along with sony music investing in them, not sie.

>>805018
Anon Hololive new members get 100k subs before their debuts

>>806464
And?

>>806342
>If nijisanji en debuts with 10 people that's not a bad thing.
Aren't you risking spreading the audience too thin in that case?

>>806648
At that point they will end up competing with each other not to mention whatever Holo they share a time slot with.

>>805881
Its not the same, in JP even if niji is more relevant both are well known. For the global audience only Hololive is known

>>806648
As long as 1 ends up popular it's a success.

>>806436
They think Sony Music Entertainment Japan is Sony HQ or Sony holdings for some reason.

>>806421
Damn, literally losing the hype train

>>801584
What?

>>806695
I really hope Ichikara isn't intentionally causing a feeding frenzy inside their company.

>>806511
I am just proving the point of the anon who you replied

>>806850
More like blindly throwing darts and hoping one hits the bullseye.

>>806464
Anon, what I mean is that between their 104 vtubers, most of them already surpassed 100k, not that all of them are 100k to this day.

700k: 1
600k: 1
500k: 5
400k: 11
300k: 11
200k: 25
100k: 39
less than 100k: 10

>>806648
Why would it be spread too thin? The fans of vtubers already overlap a lot. And like I said, this strategy has worked.

>>803816
Give it to me straight, what are the chances we'll get someone like Sister Claire?

>>807267
Not as low as you think. Nijisanji might be intentionally looking for someone that can keyfabe a character like hers.

>>807267
Next to zero, sadly.e.

>>807475
I mean I am sure they know Lulu is a hit with the foreign audiences so maybe it really isn't that farfetched.

>>806374
hag voice =/= deep voice

>>801298
That actually did happen, during a superchat reading I think

>>807267
I think Niji would be too corporate to try poking that hornet's nest on the English internet.
It's fine in Japan where like .2% of the population is Christian, it's probably different here where it's much higher.

>>807267
>reincarnates on your path

>>807768
I don't mean a literal nun - although they can always do fantasy nun - but rather someone that keyfabes a person that is kind hearted, considerate and polite.

>>796217
really do not get his numbers. avg vid views are 77% of subs but like rate is 1.6% plus chat being slow despite high live views. is it just japan's obsession with apex

I wonder if they could find their coco, someone to act as the EOP bridge.

>>808053
Hana Macchia?

>>808087
I don't think she really fulfils that purpose though does she? She speaks English and gets fans that do but she isn't exactly pulling any off those fans towards the JP branch as far as I am aware.

>>808087
Hana can't even act as a bridge for ID even though she tries.

>>808053
I would assume/hope they're recruiting at least one person who speaks decent Japanese for greater collab potential

>>808053
nip esl incoming

>>806831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbVDJQTT5o4

>>808362
Why is this a thing!?

>>808053
Isn't Yumeoi basically that?

>>808684
He is good at English but it isn't like he puts special effort into reach out to draw in foreign fans or anything. I don't really watch him much but as far as I am aware his use of if extends about as far as occasionally replying to an English comment and maybe using it in collabs sometimes.

>>805301
Claire is ASMR type streamer, so her success lies in voice pack.

>>809374
>Claire is ASMR type streamer
Didn't youtube nuke those?

>>809768
Only the lewd one as far as i know, but she sometimes disguise it with something else, like sleeping stream.

>>795730
I hope the males are fun to watch, is all that i ask for

>>810635
Me too anon, the thing I am fear the most is the guys turning out to be a bunch of meme loving fucks.

>>798280
>being an SJW, a trump retard, a karen or just a "we must use our platforms to stand up" girl
Your mistake was assuming any of these types of people could hold jobs.

>the topic of corporate EN male vtubers comes up
>YEAH I BET THEY'LL JUST HIRE [incredibly popular male content creator that has nothing to do with Vtubing and will only lose money by becoming one]
Is this topic just an opportunity for people to discuss their favorite streamers/content creators?

So what are the odds of a tranny making it in?

>>811217
Probably about the same as the odds of you going a day without posting about trannies.

>>808003
nah, it's because they put him on repeat, he literally has the lowest view/like ratio of the whole industry, remember you can only like a video once
that or his fans are giga retarded to watch the same 6hr VOD of Apex 3 times a day

if it starts in may june i expect that there was a extensive and good review of talents.
If it comes nexxt month shit is gonna be rushed.

>>808003
only his toruney scrims get high views otherwise a lot of his streams are marathons.

>>796004
>niji talent
>literally jop midnight tv show tier

>>798436
but nobody watches them, their top views are on Apex

>>806464
HL has 10 over 1m
The lowest is the new ID loli with 200k or something like that
Even the Homostars are above the Nijii average

>>813537 meant for >>805018

>>796398
have they done anything SJWish stuff on stream? I don't watch the ENs, spoonfeed please

>>797762
>I already forgot about 70% of them
bros, why do they isolate the bottom of the barrel so much?
I'm worried bc I bet that the EN's will literally have more attention than 90% of them

>>813887
they don't?

>>806695
>nijimind

Anyone who has confidence in their skills would've held out until HoloEN gen2 auditions came out.

>>805182
Not going to happen.
Consider this. Moona is an indog. She speaks broken english and bahasa. She can't into japanese. She has a talent in singing but she barely capitalize on it. She's autistic too.
And yet if you look at her numbers, she is about to Sasaki, a top tier talent of Niji. The take away on this is
1. Holo branding works
2. Getting boosted by a Holo talent is also effective
3. Being labeld a Niji is a huge debuff