/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>79417119
By kicking out the whore, the AW, the time bomb and Nyanners

(Also because Gunrun is seemingly not an idiot and probably gave better contracts to the girls after these left, making staying in the company actually interesting for them)

>>79417119
copied hololive. why else would they do talent debuts, gen collabs, karaokes and idol concerts?

>>79417119
CIA venture capital and >>79420155

Their entire brand is built on saviorbaiting, which works wonders especially on twitchcels.
>ironlung the undying
>all the ex-niji refugees

>>79420155
>gen collabs
Vshojo doesn't have gens
>karaokes and idol concerts
Holodrones still think blue dorito invented singing and dancing

>>79420155
>holo invented debuts
>holo invented collabs
>holo invented karaoke
>holo invented idols
>holo invented concerts

>>79420553
Vshowhore didn't do any singing and dancing until the blue dorito

>>79417224
And he replaced them with niji rejects.

>>79420553
then why they do that? idol are evil right? then vhoejo is evil too?

>>79421418
ummm nyanners and ironmouse did that shit before even kizuna ai was a thing you newfag

They kick out the traitors

hololive invented singing

>>79420553
strawmanning? there's no shame in copying the best.

>>79421418
Wasnt Nyanners rise to fame during the early 2000’s because she was larping as an anime woman who shitposted cursed shit pandered to 4ch and did karaoke shit

>>79421418
https://www.youtube.com/live/LXWjFBjlv4s?si=0_ulq64poqlJXxLi&t=943

>>79420553
>>79420862
>>79421629
stop samefagging

>>79417119
They killed A-chan

>>79417119
It's mostly just Mousey and her connections.

>>79417119
Do what?

>>79420862
Nah, but they will never be more than
>we have vtubers at home
and it's ironic to see them aping so much of it, after the whole
>muh idol culture, muh talent freedom
spiel and some fans of them and western twitch vtubers in general thinking they are were the innovation and moral high ground is at, while the truth is, that if they don't do this they just do regular twitch slop. And if you think me harsh for saying this, know that I have this take, because whenever anyone on any board genuinely shittalks vtubers I know it's to 90% because their first contact point with the whole concept was the
>vtubers at home:
version of it, a twitch streamer with a anime avatar draped over. The same people who extensively shit on it when it was this new weird asian thing, where "parasocial" was suddenly a huge buzzword coming from fucking twitch streamers of all people, but then when it kept getting more popular, quickly turned around hoped on the bandwagon, but only because it was of course appealing to them when they can just roll out of bed (sometimes not even that) and turn their react stream on.

Vhoejoe should pay royalties to Hololive for stealing their ideas.

>>79422989
seriously why are they always esl?

>>79417119
Step 1: Hire a bunch of big streamers.
Step 2: Have a bunch of big streamers.

>>79417119
They owe all their successful thanks to their Hololive collabs.

>>79420862
Yes, we did?
Hololive invented fun, retard.

>>79420155
They as well copied the using of 3D models, Fillian is the biggest offender of that.

Unironically
Step 1: hire a few notable but controversial figurers (i.e. silver and nyanners)
Step 2: wait for them to fuck up
Step 3: Now everybody thinks you're redeemed and better than if you had started with the current proper roster

>>79417119
It's Nepotism: the corpo, it works because their nepotism chain extends to Twitch itself

>>79420862
Literally nobody on twitch did karaoke or music on stream before Hololive started doing it.

>>79424100
>Holo invented singing

>>79424153
On stream? Yes.

>>79424218
thank you hololive

In 2022: "It's shame that talented singers like Calliope are treated as idol! Talent Freedom!!!"
In 2024: "Idol culture is not exclusive to Hololive."
What happened?

>>79417119
Ironmouse and others co.

>>79424480
What do people consider "Idol culture" if it's just karaoke and singing stuff Vshojo has done that from the beginning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Yn8Ga9Cok

>>79422989
ESL, but based.

>>79424100
>>79424218
This, and when Holo came with the idea of "Zatsudan" streams in 2019 Twitch copied them and added the "just chatting" category.

>>79424905
thank you hololive for inventing talking

>>79424959
Yes

>>79417119
poaching is a wonderful thing

>>79424868
based

>>79417119
Do what? Become the shitiest company? They did it by hiring twitch whores and not scouting new talents.

>>79417224
The pink rat and green head are still there.

>>79417119
>easily the best contracts out of any org
>talent freedom
>talents first and they own their IP
>no JP corpo autism
I could go on but I know this is already enough to set off the numbermonkeys who made this thread and bump it.

>>79417119
They have a really appealing business model + Ironmouse singlehandedly makes them relevant. Vei and Nyanners were literally their 2nd and 3rd biggest talents when they left. The fact that they were able to not only bounce back from that, but rebuild even stronger than they were before is a testament to how much of Vshojo’s brand strength comes from simply having Ironmouse.

I fucking hate Vshoujou, they literally stole Henya away from us, she would've been literally perfect in Hololive, it's also literally because of them that we couldn't get Mint.

>>79425950
They also literally stole Dokibird from us.

>>79420862
>anny invented debuts
>anny invented collabs
>anny invented karaoke
>anny invented idols
>anny invented concerts

>>79425950
Retard Henya doesn't like idol culture.

>>79417224
>By kicking out the whore
but ironmouse is still there?

>>79420155
Holo copied AKB48 retard

>>79425676
This, we even have a recent example with Justice, none of them had any internet presence or streaming experience before they got hired and now they're even more successful than the previous gens, that's how powerful Hololive is.

>>79417119
https://vocaroo.com/1nDAJB7xPob3

>>79430070
Kek you can’t be serious, how uninformed you are. Holodrones live in a bubble of retardedness

>>79430070
cheeky

>>79420254
>CIA venture capital
give source or take meds

>>79430070
I see what you did there

>>79430070
Everything Hololive touches turns into gold.

>>79421492
>singing and dancing = idol
The average IQ of this board must surely be below room temperature

>>79422989
>they just do regular twitch slop
But what, exactly is SO different about what Hololive does?
The majority of their content is either playing games or talking with their chat.
OK they sing and do concerts but that's not unique to them by any stretch of the imagination.

So what ACTUALLY sets Hololive apart from the rest?

they win just by having good management
that's about it

>>79425950
>she would've been literally perfect in Hololive
You do not know Henya at all if you think this.

>>79430050
huh? hololive has had a lot of influences. nothing wrong with that. just like vshojo copied stuff from hololive.
why are you guys so insecure about it? you guys are weird.

>>79431061

>>79431542
Henya would literally die after a single dance lesson

>>79431837
here's hoping

>>79431167
Hololive has zatsu streams.

>>79417119
By simply not being retarded like all of their competition.

I would fuck almost everyone in Vshojo. Thanks for asking.

>>79417224
>By kicking out the whore, the AW, the time bomb and Nyanners
This is fucking hilarious to read when vshojofags defended each and every member as long as they had the vshojo stamp.

>>79431751
Was this supposed to be a counter argument?

>>79431897
Ah sugoi, I too suki to hanashi with my tomodachi

>>79425923
I mean, the Henya buff was pretty huge. She changed everything about Vshojo’s public perception.

>>79424905
Hololive also popularized the use of greenscreens, before that streamers would just use a camera filming their room directly like the untalented lazy retards they are.

>>79432207
It didn't do anything for me, it actually reinforced what they're like. She went from being cute to showing her ahego face within minutes. I get you've got to cater to your audience but it's a real grim look when even a sweet girl like her becomes a typical slut like mouse & co.

>>79431837
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mj-n8vsbpA
She just isn't fit for the strenuous and stressful environment of Hololive

VShojo offers her the support she needs at the pace that's comfortable for her. Simple as.

>>79432297
>She went from being cute to showing her ahego face within minutes
It was a toggle on her second outfit which wasn't until several months later. A toggle she didn't request but was put in for free by the rigger because he does that for everyone.
She showed it to Melody off-stream and forgot to disable it, triggering it on accident during a stream.

It's clear you don't watch her, maybe never have, and don't know a damn thing about who she is.

>>79432083
It's a depressed nousagi fag who posted that.

>>79432297
fucking retarded thumbnail reader

>start justin.tv with some other nerds, which would become twitch
>sell to Amazon for a billion dollars
>use that money to sell mobile streaming backpacks and start a vtuber group with a gachi creator on the side
IT'S THE CIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hololive invented the internet

>>79421422
rejects? more like survivors/

>>79432462
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mj-n8vsbpA
Yes I did watch it on debut even, her choreography is cute but it's nothing particularly physically demanding, she isn't fit, like bodily.

>>79432297
you are actually retarded. kill yourself

>>79432967
Obviously she's not gonna be going hard on her first show but it's not like she can't dance either

>>79432297
Kek, looking at the seethe you got in response I guess you're telling the truth, the instant damage control is always a good sign.
Based kettlechad

>>79417119
they hired good talents and they kicked out the bad ones

>>79433413
He never watched her and it shows. Neither did you and it shows.

>>79433413
Replying to yourself is not going to hide your newfaggotry, all you had to do was just watch her clips to avoid embarrassing yourself but even that is too much for you.

>gets instantly btfo by real fans
>s-s-s-s-seethe!!
No (You) for you.

By absorbing any big name they can get their hands on. They're so shameless about it they even forgot their entire brand being vshojo just to snag a luxiem

>n-no I knew her all along! S-s-seethe!
Who is this?

>>79433590
>>79433691
Why the fuck would I lower myself to twitch whores kek, I'm just here to give props to a kettlechad for making you seethe so badly

>>79434045
>n-no u now I'm the smug reeeeeee uuuuuu

>>79432297
same. she was one of the good ones too.
absolute whoreishness corrupts absolutely

>>79434256
>randomly seething about twitch whores
ah so you're just a seething numbermonkey I understand now

>>79434256
>why would I learn anything before forming an opinion and speaking about something
Holy retard

>>79433413
>>79434256
>kettlechad
Nobody in the entire board has ever used this term before, that's how embarrassing your cope is, now the people who will check the archive in the future will see that it was first used by a retard trying to damage control the fact that he didn't know shit about Henya, good job anon, this is your legacy.

>>79434000
They could've easily made a VShonen and many people were expecting it to happen eventually

But the logic is that VShojo already doesn't split members by gens or regions so why should they split by gender

>>79434837
I don't think they're interested in hiring a bunch of males anyway.

We never wanted Henya anyways.

>>79434483
>>79434762
>>79434795
>instant seethe
Still not watching your twitch whores, enjoy the literal fast food of vtubing you cucks kek

>>79435104
Tell us something we don't know. You don't watch vtubers at all.

>>79435104
Good riddance, nobody wants people like you in their community.

>>79435104
If you're dead-set on learning absolutely nothing about a given vtuber, then don't talk about them

Should be common sense

>>79435234
i didn't, i just enjoyed a clear fan making you retards seethe
turns out there are just 3 vshocucks on the entire board and all of them are running damage control in their advertisement thread. makes sense, not many people want to watch sluts debase themselves for subs like mousey

>>79434795
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=kettlechad
>isreal
Kek that's actually fucking embarrassing, and now it's immortalized forever even if he deletes his posts.

>>79435104
This is officially your thread anon, at least make your melty entertaining for the archive readers.

>>79435419
>clear fan
vshojo antis are so fucking pathetic.

>>79435419
>a clear fan
But they're not, and you would recognize that if you knew anything about her.

It's clear that all you care about is shitting on "Twitch whores," regardless of how fucking stupid you sound when doing so
Not really sure what the purpose of that is

>>79435576
the only one melting down is you? ive already won, i dont watch twitch whores; you're the one running damage control trying to cope with your used goods

>>79434936
There's basically no more male vtubers for them to get. Holostars seem fine where they are, none of the remaining male Nijis are worth it at this point, Shoto is happy as an indie, Heavenly and Aethel like telling jokes that people might use to anti VShojo if they were under their brand, etc. It seems like female vtubers like Matara and Michi usually end up being much more successful as well.

>>79435809
You don't watch vtubers at all. Post memberships fag.

>>79435906
oh shit xhe's actually melting down RUMAO
you cant unwhore your used sluts like this, anon. keep paying for those condoms though

>>79436022
>didnt post memberships
You are not a real fan.

>>79435809
>ive already won
Yes, you've won the award of "first retard coming up with the word "kettlechad" while trying to damage control".

>>79436156
neither did you. we knew that when you defend twitch sluts on a mongolian basket weaving forum though kek
can you stop melting down please? you're embarrassing yourself

>>79436429
Why do you come to a mongolian basket weaving forum to post about vtubers when you don't even watch them?

>>79432083
I don't know if that guys is actually a vshojofag. Calling Silver a who was a meme in /vsj+/ even when she was still a member. Vei has her ups and downs. I would still defend Nyanners, pink cat good.

What the fuck is going on in this thread
Is one retard honestly running rings around the entire vshocuck defence force? Popcorn time

>>79436595
i watch vtubers, not twitch holes. i notice you didnt post memberships, so by your logic you are not a real fan. why are you here melting down instead of watching your sluts kek

>>79436785
>i watch vtubers
You don't.
> i notice you didnt post memberships
>n-n-n-no u!!!
I accept your concession.

>>79436933
you conceded when you demanded proof of memberships and didn't show yours. thanks for the free win

>>79435576
lmao

>>79436637
It's just numbermonkeys like you seething at vshojo again.

>>79436637
Kek, next time just watch clips instead of exposing yourself.

>>79437138
>>79437270
What the fuck is a numbermonkey and what clips am I meant to be watching?
I came here for a laugh but you're giving me the entertainment directly, awesome!

I love my western whores.

>>79437551
>What the fuck is a numbermonkey
Trying too hard now.

My pure Hololive sexless maidens would NEVER degrade themselves like those twitch whores, oh wait…
https://youtu.be/8F3VobvFGx4?si=ktlEN5HTXPfPwTQF

: |
this collab

>>79438066
???
Bro I don't watch anything outside of Phase and indies, what the fuck are you talking about. Is this twitch lingo?
Not everyone knows your weird ass terminology

>>79437551
Exposing yourself as a complete newfag is an interesting coping angle.

>>79438252
>Bro I don't watch anything
Yes, we already established that. Stop trying to larp as a phasekek.

>>79438412
Oh, got you, you're delusional and think I'm the other retard that was shitting on you.
That's actually really funny, how cute

>>79438500
I don't think that, I know it because you used the term "vshocuck" both in your nocaps and perfect grammar persona. Nobody else says that.

>>79438891
Vshocuck is used all over the board wtf, who's the newfag now?

>>79432297
To this day, bringing up Henya is still the best way of sniffing out newfags and retards who only look at thumbnails, you honestly should've deleted your post after the first reply.

>>79438955
bro don't answer these faggots seriously, reminder that they have to cope by seething on here impotently because they pay for their sluts to get railed just laugh at em kek

>>79438955
No it isn't. It's been said 12 times for the whole year until you said it twice this thread.
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Vshocuck

>>79439198
>first used november 2021
Holy newfag you just destroyed yourself with your own receipts, are you ogey?

>>79435901
>Heavenly and Aethel like telling jokes that people might use to anti VShojo if they were under their brand

>>79434280
That's what I fucking thought you fraud

>>79423529
Because accents and broken English is cute

>>79440787
*are, forgot to change it after adding second thing

>everyone falling for the weakest, most obvious and retarded bait in the whole fucking catalog
You can leave /vsj+/, but /vsj+/ never leaves you.

>>79440557
Both of them have talked about that being a reason they'll probably never join. Aethel is also dating Nyan, and I don't think she wants to be directly to connected to VShojo again through him joining.

>>79441203
I just really don't think VShojo cares about tiptoeing around people who will hate them regardless

>>79422989
Please take your meds.

>>79429954
Henya is a nice lady and a genius dayo.

>>79423529
>speaks 0.5 languages
>whines about esl
Yeah, checks out.

What did Niji do this time?

>>79426230
anny are you okay?

>>79424846
funny thing Cover wasn't even big enough to collab with Kizuna Ai. I remember Lamy cried when Kizuna was in her chat.

>>79441359
I wouldn't say that's true at all. VShojo doesn't act like they care about PR but they do. I don't know about Heavenlyfather but Aethel makes jokes about other corporations, that's not gonna fly.

>>79432297

>>79417119
10% feed
20% seed
15% concentrated power of sneed
5% chuck
50% suck
and 100% reason to fuck and suck

I've never watched Henya. Would fuck her anyway.

>>79417119
They stream in a different platform from their competitors which allows them to co-exist with the goliaths
They deliver a different form of product "service"
Quality over quantity
They are veterans
They go different talents from different areas which expanded their experience and networking.

>>79437586
Would Would Would Would Would Would Would nope Would Would Would

>>79442700
sorry, are you saying she isn't a whore?