/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

The west knows about Nijisanji?

>the west knows about nijisanji
since when?

>>790230
Isn't Lulu popular in the West?

>>790275
Wholu?

Fucking VOMS is more popular than Nijisanji in the west. What are you saying?

Nijiwho? I only watch Gura clips

Why hasn't Nijisanji taken off in the west?

>>790345
their attempt to make a English speaking division was using 3 punjabs with 0 marketing
and all their channels, names, and most of their clips are exclusively in japanese
kinda hard to reach english speakers when there's 0 ability to look them up in english without some effort

>>790230
>>790239
Nijisanji has a fanbase in the west albeit smaller than hololive, they have clips, holofags at least know about them in some way. Can you say the same about other agencies? The only comparison to hololive always is nijisanji, not 774, entum, react, brave group, activ8 and other bizz

Marketing, as in Hololive is the only group that does it.

They have an.unpaid army of fans making clips, subtitles and fanart for free and doing all the hard work for them

Even then it was only when HoloEN was announced that anyone in the west actually noticed

>>790497
the Kizuna Ai Company is bigger out west than Nijisanji friend

The west will never care about non youtube chuuba

>>790208
Poor advertising. Hololive and Nijisanji took off because of memes/viral marketing, but they haven't done anything on their own to get their face out there. Somewhat difficult, too, considering the current cancel-culture climate and JP's desperate to avoid controversy.

>>790208
Anon... SEAnigger and Pajeet are not Western countries.
Nijinigger only popular around SEA and eastern part of Asia.
To be fair Vshojo is more popular than nijisanji at western part of the world(NA,Euro, and LATAM).

>>790521
No, they aren't. Activ8 barely is known. You're delusional if you think otherwise.

No one ever compares hololive with activ8 either and kizuna ai is irrelevant for the west for a while as well

>>790617
Most of shojos roster was known on the vtwitcher scene prior to forming a company, they didnt really build from the ground up

>>790617
anon, op is talking about how only hololive and nijisanji are mentioned in the west between jp agencies, which is true. There's only two fanbases in here, and are for those two agencies. Other agencies have nothing.

>>790639
>kizuna ai is irrelevant
oh im raffin, just because she's not discussed in this part of the internet simply because she doesn't stream a lot doesn't mean her impact isn't felt in other places. Also similarly, this place LOVES to overstate how much the west is aware of Nijisanji. Nobody has a clue what nijisanji even is for your typical hololive fan, they've maybe heard of it through Suisei collabing with Inui but that's it

>>790208
define "the west"

>>790639
Kizunai has been directly involved with Hollywood movies, though. I know she was part of the promotional for Alita.

>>790679
you still don't understand what op is talking about. Outside of Hololive, Nijisanji is the other agency mentioned. They have fans, they have clippers. None of this is true for other jp agencies. how many fans noripro has here? 774? react? why the comparison always is with nijisanji? understand now?

>>790673
>Where are the others agencies? Why no one mention them and act like only those two exists? I want answers, anons.
There's no specific mention of JP only agencies. Sorry anon to hurt you but you must take it vshojo is more popular than Nijisanji for westerners.
And also OP is faggot to think Nijisanji is popular in western countries.

Who cares about agencies? indie>corpo

>>790814
I like the cut of your jib.

>>790810
Not my fault you can't interpret a basic thing faggot. I didn't say Nijisanji is super popular like hololive, I said they are the only agency outside of hololive coming from jp to have a fanbase in here, which they do have, translated clips which there's a lot out there and so on. Main point is tht no other agency have anything like that. proof is that nijinigger exists in here but not 774nigger or reactnigger.

>>790913
Ok sorry for little bias before but here's their search by Google trends for the last 90 days in America.
Seems like Vshojo and Nijisanji is on par and yeah I was wrong when I said vshojo is more popular than nijisanji but OP is faggot to say Nijisanji is popular at western countries.

>>790372
also west hate the way indians speak english
due to annoying outsourced phone supports / customer service

>>791477
The name 'Nijisanji' itself already a big filter to EOP.

>>790639
>activ8
>still exists
Anon is right in calling it Kizuna Ai Company. She basically spun off into her own agency and Ai has more brand recognition in the West and Japan than nijisanji. She’s basically normie tier

>>791707
Kizuna Ai Company is under Activ8. upd8 was the old company/platform that got shut down at the end of last year.

>>790275
No Niji member is popular in the West because, no shit, the popular ones are all Japanese.

>>790497
>entum
>brave group
>activ8
Why would anyone compare cover with dead/on-their-last-leg companies

>>790208
The West doesn't know Nijisanji either. Mainstream, the West only knows about Hololive, because of its successful EN branch and accidental memes that broke through the language barrier (Miko nigger).

>>790230
As a longtime jaypee, I remember going to Comiket 96 and being surprised:
1. How much vtubers had grown
2. How the few holo vtubers I knew were virtually absent relative to nijisanji
Sure I knew mito and co., but their presence at the official booths was an eye-opener.

>>793303
>Comiket 96 was held in Tokyo.
>Anon ask about Nijisanji popularity in western countries.
Long time /jp/ anon what do you mean by this??

>>793890
We're talking relative to people interested in vtubers.
I happened to be in the scene at the time, that's all.

>>790208
I'm enjoying Shishigami Leona's singing right now.

>>790497
>Nijisanji has a fanbase in the west
More like Hana Macchia has a fanbase in the west

>>794034
Hana is comfy as fuck

>>790208
Hololive got popular with the west from their clips and memes. The girls didn't ignore their western fans and threw them a bone every once in a while.
Nijisanji paid hololive clippers to put out translations for their EN clip channel and are paying for english youtube ads.
Every other vtuber company doesn't have the cash or resources to enter the western market. Most of them have barely realized the importance of translated clips.

>>790345
Nijisanji had multiple chances to court a western fanbase, instead they ignored them and tried to pass off NijiIN as a real english branch.

>>793303
2019 was the year of Nijisanji, Hololive was nowhere near as big until early 2020 when Gen 3 became settled in, Coco started blowing up and westerners started blowing up the numbers

>>795127
Absolutely true, still surprised me

>>795067
Actually this one.
At early 2020 around early February I used to got YouTube recommendation for both hololive and Nijisanji which means YouTube algorithm still favor both of these companies at the start of vtuber booming.
Cover probably noticed this trend and keep pushing for worldwide audience and help from several clips while Nijisanji just get to comfy in their comfort zone.

Nijisanji is only for ascended vtuber fans. Reddit and normies stick with hololive.

>>790239
since hana macchiato

>>795379
I'm glad for being Normie if that's the case.
Being ultra larping weeb is never healthy.

There are a few western agencies, like Vshojo and Tsunderia. None of them are as big as Hololive or Nijisanji though. I know of smaller Japanese agencies, but I don't really watch them. Why would I watch them over an English speaking vtuber, or at least a Japanese one who's popular?

>>795490
>popular = good
Yeah guess I'll just play CoD instead of an actually good game.

>>795417
She blew up after the Mick Gordon thing but never collabed with popular Nijis that westerners could've latched onto and lost all her momentum in the end, this is the reason Nijisanji isn't as popular worldwide as Hololive

>>795535
I don't think that popular = good. I watch a few smaller English vtubers. But why would I watch a literal who Japanese vtuber when I could watch a literal who English one?

>>795577
Popular Nijis can't speak english.

>>795535
This is how /v/ brain works.
I would ask you the same thing, Is unpopular means good?

>>795620
Neither can Korone or Pekora

>>795638
Who and who?

>>795661
Two v-tubers that can barely speak a lick of english and have a huge western fanbase and nearly as many subs each as the top two Nijis combined

>>795794
Nah, it is true for Pekora but Korone has at the very least a basic understanding of it

>>790208
Clippers make more money with popular companies, so Niji and Hololive get the lion's share of EOP attention. Maybe some of you clipfags could help the lesser known agencies out. Start with 774.

>>791933
An even then, newfag EOPs can maybe name 5 Holomem off the top of their heads.

>>791477
Yeah, kind of a shame really because the 3 Indians of the Niji branch aren't that bad, but they got massively ignored because why the fuck did Nijisanji thought it was a good idea to make Vtubers in a Country where most people don't even have a computer

>>793918
Reread your post, nigger.

>>795945
Nevermind, I'm a fucking retard and forgot they number them sequentially twice a year. Gomen

>>795794
Huh. Never heard of them.

>>795915
This, just take one look in hlgg and 99% of the posts are about the ENs, "EN gen 0" and maybe Korone, Pekora and Polka, it's pretty sad how few of them branch out to try anything new

>>791562
I propose we start referring to members of Hololive as the Holocast.

>>790514
>unpaid
they win with thw clips and subs

>>795994
Fubuki isn't even talked about anymore. An anon said last week he thought Ame was collabing with another agency for the first time. But she was collabing with Mel.

>>790208
this board was literally filled with voms threads yesterday retard

>>790755
>Noripro
Doesn't she actively shoot down clipping because of YouTube's retarded copyright system repeatedly claiming the clips as the original content instead of the streams? Basically actively kneecapping any chance for EOPs to get into the group

>>795535
CoD is actually a pretty solid FPS. It may not be, like, DOOM or something but it's not popular because it's unplayable unbisoft garbage.

>>791391
Are you being intentionally obtuse or do you not get OP's point?

>>790208
i only know hololive

>>795872
Hololive clipping was started by gachikois and then other people jumped in when they saw there was money to be made, maybe smaller agency fans should start putting clips out themselves instead of complaining that none of the big clippers translates their oshi.

Hell speaking of 774, I think Patra is the only one with a dedicated clipper.

>>790208
Vtubing is a japanese thing, you saw how well it went when pokimane tried it. Its a niche in the west, so naturally only the biggest players are noticed.

>>796152
That's because greedy clippers were retarded and uploaded the clip before the stream was done processing, so the clip would be up before the VODs

>>790208
Because Hololive is popular right now, due to a bunch of unpaid hardworking simps who hopped on that fucking train and RODE the vtuber dick hard when EN was announced.

>>795379
By ascended you mean harassing rival vtuber companies, their talents and your own livers then yes nijifags are ascended.

>>790239
>>795417
>>795577
Also her channel got some attention from SBFP fans after her dad talked about how he was also a fan of them during one stream

>>800854
Does Nijisanji really?

Because no one translates that shit for all the EOP cretins.

>>790208
Holo dare to say the N word

>>790514
Actually, Cover has significant investment from one of the largest mutli-national advertising firms in Japan, that is why their marketing is so effective

>>796099
I can tell none of them watch Monoe because this board is full of EOP, they are in it for the drama

>>791877
isn't that what you all say about nijisanji?

>>806150
?

>>800854
You talk as if holofags don't do the same in JP.

>>790208
Well that's where the good vtubers are, most indies are meh and small japanese companies are training grounds for the bigger ones

>>806174
Nigger, the only member to get harassed out of Hololive was Aloe and it was done by rerards who ate up the narratives about her disrespecting Niji, meanwhile Roa was harassed by other nijisanji gachikoi into hiding because japanese keemstar told them too

>>790275
Some people thought she was hololive.

Nijisanji is incredibly big in Japan, Hololive on the other hand is relatively popular at home and abroad. Reasons for this are many

>>800854
So you are saying nijisanji has more dedicated and passionate fans?

>>790208
The degree of attention to vtuber groups in the west is somewhat proportional to that in Japan. With exceptions like Hololive or VOMS. So essentialy we can just ask why ones are more popular than the others.

>>806286
Let me guess, did you find out about vtubers from holoen?

I used to make subbed clips for nijisanji, but after seeing the comments from people I got turned off by what I was bringing to the fanbase.
This turned me off from doing the same to the other vtuber groups and indies I'm following. I can imagine some people feel the same way.
Hololive is different because the cancer is already there, so you won't do much damage by clipping them.

>>806460
Wow how'd you know?

>>802882
It literally is just this, people in the west just aren't even aware they exist, hell Kirara Mimi is bigger than some nijis even just because some big youtuber here showed her to his audience.

>>806460
Nice non-reply

Also, no I've been following them since the early Ai days, followed through the 4 devas era, lost interest shortly after and came back during 2018 because of Mito

>>806666
Nice numbers, but you shouldn't respond to bait like that anon.

>>806666
Then you should know how rabid holofags get when a male even THINKS about interacting with their precious virgin idol.
Remember suisei.

>>806542
Weak LARP

>>806286
Are we forgetting all the times they got backlash from idol fags when they tried to do things with holostars? Or towa?

>>806774
My last one was 7 months ago. Eh, I don't care if you believe me, I'm just trying to answer the OP question.

it's like DC and Marvel
it's just the big 2 and talked about the most. that doesn't mean that others are being ignored.

>>806951
Towa was because a male voice in her room durin a stream, which yeah triggered all the unicorns but you gotta admit was a big oof

Also, Fubuki and Matsuri don't seem to have any problem collabing with the homos.

>>795067
Honestly, them being idols also helps them out. Clips get a foot in the door, but I only got invested after listening to their songs. The whole NijiID shit actually makes me hate Niji. I'm not invested in NijiID, but that was a fucking dick move they did to them.

>>807066
At least for Friend, I'm pretty sure she get some hate from a minority from that

>>807066
Yes, but those are examples where the fanbase attack the vtuber for some bs

>>806286
>>807066
>>806951
For one of the most retarded cases, don't forget that Watame and Coco got blasted just for sharing a fanart of them with Kaoru

>>807433
5ch just hates everyone

>>807395
The indian branch?

>>807066
>Also, Fubuki and Matsuri don't seem to have any problem collabing with the homos.
That's because they told the purityfags to fuck off early in their career. Each hololive member is responsible for what kind of fanbase they want to cultivate.

>>790208
you mean Hololive and Kizuna Ai. West barely knows Nijisanji. Other agencies? Vshojo obv

>>795986
Pekora makes funny faces and says funny things :)

>>807769
Yes, those are examples, however they are so small scale and muted compared to what Niji deals with that they might as well not exist.

Its like if Norway criticised Turkey for the Armenian genocide, and Turkeys retort was "well what about the Sami huh?"

>>812187
Stop talking about this. You're actually a newfag, it doesn't matter if you can google the names of vtubers from 2018.
The Roa thing isn't that bad, all the hate didn't come from nijisanji fans (proof is that holofags like you care about it), and it isn't a regular occurrence like you make it sound.

>>806542
To a certain extent its true, some of the live tl's have given up because the fanbase is kinda bad. The main reason for the lack of Niji clips is they don't get views and thus no ad money. Small dedicated Hololive clip channels get more views than the official Niji EN clip channel.

>>814823
Niji livers often have their likes / dislikes bar disabled because they're getting harassed by another livers fanbase or because they slip up and get dogpiled by the hivemind.

>>803077
Isn't the Nijisanji guy also pretty rich?

>>790208
How would an EOP even find out about any other company? It's not like they can type some Japanese keywords into YouTube or Twitter. YouTube recommendations probably won't work either if they only watch clip channels dedicated to one person or agency.
I'm sure they don't even know most Nijisanji livers.

>>790208
Because they don't speak japanese? japs are too xenophobic to fully exploit western markets.

>>806542
kaitou xi that you?

Because back then Hololive is small compared to niji, there is no way they could defeat niji in japan so yagoo decides the way of company is going to oversea. Back then chink now the west is main targets audience of Holo

>>806666
>Also, no I've been following them since the early Ai days, followed through the 4 devas era, lost interest shortly after and came back during 2018 because of Mito
Nice RP but no oldfag calls it 4 devas, and Mito was literally debut shortly after four heavenly kings era

>>824444
>often
Again with the hyperbole. Also you clearly don't know where the chihiro trolls come from. Otherwise you wouldn't have thought to use that as an example, because the origin makes it a non-example.

>>790230
I like Hana Machia

>>790208
>Nijisanji
What's Nijisanji?

>>835430
Same

>>835430
>>835523
e-girl

>>826431
EOPs don't even have a Japanese IME

>>826431
You can just search "Mito" and 月ノ美兎 is in the results

>>795638
Korone makes an attempt, at least, and Pekora's been flirting with doing so

>>826655
It's not a phobia when an extremely loud minority of arrogant, moralizing Westerners really are out to get you.

>>835430
is she really the most well known Nijisanji in the west?

>>853758
Probably

>>854058
guess even pika is more popular than any Nijisanji in the west

>>854295
She is

>>790617

> SEAnigger and Pajeet are not Western countries.

> western part of the world(NA,Euro, and LATAM)

Nice try slipping mudblood South Americans in there. You're dirty third worlder like Pajeet and SEAnig, Paco.

>>854295
>>856747
the power of decent english

>>790208
>Why the west only know about Nijisanji?
most people don't have a clue who they are

>>835430
>>835523
been a while since i watched
should maybe check again

>>835430
I know this girl. Her trying to solve the math problem was hilarious.

>>859022
>LATAM is not western part of the world
American education, everyone.
>dirty third worlder
Though true, that's not what the other anon was talking about, you insecure burger.
t. spic

>>866061
Imagine reading this thread and acting like nijisanji don't have a fanbase in the west while not understandi the question about how other agencies like 774, react, entum, brave group and other shit have absolutely nothing.

>>795994
The latest group of newfriends came into Hololive with EN, they need a bridging point to be introduced to the various JP members

>>790208
>>790208
Ask any random person on the street what their favorite softdrink is and they'll most likely answer Coke or Pepsi

Ask any random person on the street what brand their phone is and they'll most likely answer Apple or Samsung

This isn't rocket science anon. Popular companies are going to be the most well known.

>>802882
Niji used to have just as many translators back when vtubing was just starting to get popular, they just never capitalised on it. I used to get just as many clips recommended to me from people like Ars and Roa as I did from Rushia or Matsuri, nowadays I never see Niji clips

Stay that way.

English speaking vtuber fans are worst than dirty bomb when they invade the comment section.

>>790345
Not only are there too many of them but their attempt to spread in the west by using official translations doesn't benefict from the YT Algorithm and the hordes of attention-whoring clippers that do make use of the algorithm.

>>881221
Niji whores on Reddit don't agree with you. Sorry cuck

>>881477
Nijiwhores on reddit confuse me.

First they say that they're fine with Nijisanji subreddit not being as popular because it'll invite cancer

now they're complaining that the official Nijisanji mods aren't doing much to advertise their subreddit

>>790208
>Implying the west doesn't know about Tsunderia
>Or VOMS
Where you at OP?

>>883756
If you read what I said, I meant jp agencies.

And voms has 2 people, it's basically a indie group.

>>881698
It's as if those are probably different people.

>>796047
I discovered friend due to Oga's streams.

Did you know she wants Oga's 3D to have a breakable horn? So she can break it whenever they do collabs? They're a real fun pairing.

>>881698
Classic redditor, remember redditors has no consistency.

They praise the fancy idol bullshit set up by hololive only to trash it later to show that they are lady-loving gentleman.

>>790208
>I want answers, anons.
They need to git gud

>>884314
>it's basically a indie group.
Not if they can get suddenly fired.

>>873016
Where are you when my indies quit

>>888427
>>893034
When you make contracts with an indie group where gyary owns your image.