/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>78981507
She blatantly supports the cause and wants to own the incels

>>78981649
what else do the voices in your head tell you?

>>78981649
Sister watch streams, they are fun…

>>78981507
You tell me

>>78981649
Its like the Shiori misinformation spreading all over again.
>Catalogniggers don't watch streams and only threadread
>Suddenly.form an opinion based off threadreading and even that was poorly done

>>78982123
>>78982299
Why would i watch a homowhore stream? I’m too busy watching CC which is a step above yall homobeggars liking tweets and updooting reddit post

>>78981649
Either that or completely clueless. Makes Kronii look like an idol/otaku expert by comparison.

>>78982479
>yall
>Shiori who has never collabed with a homo on stream
Ah, you're a nijinigger, got it.

>>78982479
Silence, catalogue nigger - you're kind aren't wanted here.

Bae was nowhere near this bad early on, nor was even Ollie for that matter and the Shiori situation is not comparable. Now people are trying to gaslight that she's not gonna homo collab and is just a fan being nice to her new coworkers, nah she's gonna try to change shit from within knowing her. Gotta support the cause and all that

>>78981507
>she was a beggar / sister and not a stars fan
The fuck are you talking about? They're literally the exact same thing.

>>78982745
Who said I was talking about shiori, sis?
>>78982812
Why do sisters pretend to be all inclusive LGBTQ+ BLM supporting turbo leftists until someone insults “da bois”, where they then reveal their true bigot colors?

>>78982812
>you’re
My ESL nigger please stop the cap

>>78982840
Explain how it's not even comparable considering both made their intentions clear from the beginning and retards misunderstood.
Is it time for 2 more weeks ERB edition?

>>78982812
Go back to school and learn how apostrophes work.

>>78981649
Based ERB

>>78981649
BASED

>>78983014
>Mentions Shiori in the previous reply
>Ignores it and brands her a homowhore
Remember what I said about poor threadreading? Go on, explain what Shiori is if that's not what you meant.

>>78981649
she's real for that

>>78983043
Because both Bae and Ollie were nowhere near this level of being a unity fag, again they kept it to at least a somewhat respectable distance while this bitch is doing it a bit too on the nose. And with Shiori that was just a retarded statement by her, yet here we are almost a year later and she has proven her loyalty

>>78983043
>Shiori
Sketchy past life and a misinterpreted line at the end of her debut but other than a few thank (You)s she never interacted with the homos at all
>ER
>not just responding to but initiating conversation with the homos
>drew the homos for debut
>explicitly namedropped regloss (pro homo gen) and the homostars
>sung a homo song for karaoke
>unironic cause supporter

Want more, sis?

>>78982938
Everything makes so much sense now. No wonder the homo fanbase is full of subhumans

>>78983340
Shiori is literally just waiting for the 1 year contract to be up, she'll immediately start collabing with men and indies soon enough

>>78983196
I’m talking about ER, sister. Don’t push the goalposts now.

>>78983280
What exactly is the problem? You knew from the start she's a fan of the homos, if you can't stand to see their existence acknowledged then don't watch her, simple as

>>78983280
>proven her loyalty
maybe if 4chan were willing to admit they were wrong. i still see bait threads and no one defending her or watching her streams to support.

>>78981649
You lost. Get over it.

>>78983400
All they care about is owning le unicorns, they don't actually even care about the streamers themselves and will drop them once the drama/hype settles down

>>78983478
Shouldn’t you be marching in a pride parade rn

>>78981507
No other streamer has drawn faggy pictures of the homos on their debut and then went on to sing a homos' song, twice. She made sure to give the faggot extra special attention over her supposed fans. She clearly has an agenda, which is to turn her entire fanbase into cucks and then have them spread out to other fanbases like parasites.

>>78983432
Again, because she makes it too on the nose and does it over and over like she's purposefully antagonizing unicorns. Simply doing what Bae did on debut being like "yeah I also watch stars and like Roberu" is enough of a filter for people yet this hoe is taking it even further beyond

>>78983466
Hello, this is 4chan, I was wrong about Shiori, sorry.

>>78981507
>I was told she was a beggar / sister and not a stars fan
>not a stars fan
I know (You) all watched the debuts, who would make up/believe such an obvious lie

>>78983432
>then don't watch her, simple as
Don't worry, the sisters have got that covered. They can't even be assed to watch da boiz

It's like the 2020 elections all over again.

>>78983466
Those bait threads? Made by sisters

>>78983429
>Its moving the goalposts when the original post mentions Shiori
Wowee, the reading incapability is really showing.
>>78983340
>regloss
>pro homo gen
Only Ao and Ririka have homocollabed, don't include Hajime or Kanade in your shitpost.
>Sung a homo song
Ohhh nooo, she sang a cover that a homo covered. I guess whatever songs homos cover from now on are tainted.

>>78983608
Then don't watch her, no one is forcing you. If you do that then all mention of the homos goes away

>>78983340
Not giving a shit about erb, but with shiori you niggers went ape shit. I will never let you faggots live that down how fucking wrong you guys were. Yes, I know this board isn't a hivemind, just talking about the absolute monkeys who didn't wait until she at least collabed with a homo.

>>78983478
Because 1 freak got into Hololive? lol the vast majority of talents are not like this, but I guess a starving dog will eat whatever crumbs it can get

>>78983591
It's either that she is trying to spread the agenda, or she's acting as a containment for these types of people in the fanbase. Either way, its not good because begging is just going to be propagated even more now

I find not watching her easy. But I do have some anxiety about the dumb shit she might try to say in a collab with my oshii.

The numbers don't lie

>>78982840
Liz liked a tweet.
That was enough for this hate campaign for over a week.
Bae stated her oshi, and that was memoryholed within a month.

>>78983739
>"Leader/singer" of gen doing biggest number buff stream (unarchived karaoke), and still is barely able to beat out a fucking Skyrim stream
Eurofags/homobeggars, why didn't you show to support the cause?

>>78983817
I won't watch her, its not about being forced to watch anyone that's not the problem and never has been lol. Its that someone like this got into Hololive and is undoubtedly just going to try changing shit from within, plus the obnoxious fans that someone like this brings in

>>78983832
Don’t take it out on me at least I knew she was too smart to homocollab
>>78983783
Ignoring that Kanade and Hajime were replying to a bunch of homos, eh?
>sung a homo song
The gays just wanted to get married too, right? Now the internet is infested with you fucks

>>78983817
You don't understand unicorns, anon. They'll be the first to bring them up, to mock them or to seethe, regardless just to get (You)'s

>>78984071
>She just liked a tweet
>Ignoring all the other shit she did, like ignoring her female senpais who responded to her
Stop trying to gaslight

>>78981507
worst gen ever and is not even close.

>>78984374
>Unicorns will be the first to bring up homos
Uh no, the red bitch herself was the one that brought up and has continued to shove down out throats the fucking homos

>>78984066
People want Holo girl-boy collabs

>>78984071
>Bae stated her oshi
Who was it? Roberu? Does anyone even hate Roberu, except the most adamant unicornfags?

>>78984491
Dude this is literally the best gen.

>>78984372
>Ignoring that Kanade and Hajime were replying to a bunch of homos, eh?
Twitter replies and follows suddenly matter because..uhhhh?
Then start suspecting Kiara, Shiori, Fauna, etc.

>78984154
>>78980940
The unicuck cope right below it:
>Retard. Everyone knows CCV means nothing
So which is it (You) faggots?

>>78984546
I think they just want more Elizabeth. 121k on a karaoke stream is insane, I'm genuinely impressed. I still feel like she should be a voice actor for Disney or something, that's the level of talent she's on

>>78984271
>Its that someone like this got into Hololive and is undoubtedly just going to try changing shit from within
Yeah, 2 more weeks I'm sure
>plus the obnoxious fans that someone like this brings in
No more annoying than unicorns, numberfags, BVTM, clippers, le forbidden knowledge faggots, people that oshi one girl and anti everyone else even though their oshi would be disgusted by such behaviour or any number of twats that circulate here, they'll fit right in

>>78982938
I'm not even surprised

>>78984507
In these threads, retard. You just can't help but seethe over stupid insecurity that isn't even worth it. Don't watch and fuck off

>>78983089
>>78983120
>>78983220
>>78983478
extremely organic

UNICORN SEETHE >>78984881

>>78984824
Y’all were literally doxxing Milord for dating Reimu

>>78984507
The only reason shit is getting shoveled down your throat is because you attached your mouth to the shit shoveling machine, stop watching the homo lover and you'll stop hearing about the homos you fucking retard

>>78982938
These are the "people" calling unicorns parasocial fucks, btw.

She knows not only Flayon’s mascot but the fact that it goes on a hat, something probably 80% of actual Stars watchers don’t know. She’s a fan.

>>78984824
Anything is better than sisters and beggars, unicorns are literally the ones payrolling these girls lol

>>78981507
Fuck Off holoreject you will never make it in

>>78981649
My knees can't take any more.

>>78984901
dis u?

>>78984838
>Moving the goalpost
Fucking of course

>>78984972
I don't know who the fuck you think I am but I don't watch organs, not do I give a shit about their existence. Quite telling though that you can't refute my point so you deflect to those failures

>>78984838
>>78984987
Samefagging sister, try to be less obvious please

>>78983783
She didn’t sing a cover, she sang Bettel’s original song, one that released relatively recently.

>>78985023
Homobeggars really are the scum of the earth

>>78983608
>like she's purposefully antagonizing unicorns
okay the mental illness is starting to show

>>78985145
Stay seething over homos. She warned you yet you still hatewatch and seethepost about her. You lost

>>78985240
Do you fags really keep up with homo song releases now or something? How is it that I knew nothing of this until just now?

>>78982840
can you give us some examples of when she "changed shit from the inside" in her PL or are you just repeating what you heard in the catalog?

>>78985236
Cope harder, unicuck

>>78985322
NTA but stop gaslighting you disingenuous piece of shit

>>78983619
>Hello, this is 4chan
WHY DID YOU CLOSE DOWN MY LOCAL POOL IN 2008???

>>78985324
>I lost
>I'm enjoying watching actual good holos instead
Nah I think I'm doing fine, just keep this whore away from the rest of Hololive

>>78985236
Ogey

>>78981928
She literally said it herself in the archived part of her karaoke

>>78982479
>I'm too busy watching CCV
We already knew that.

>>78985412
Do your reps, its not hard to see the kind of person she is and what she supports

>>78985412
nta but anon, if you've been involved in any nerd/otaku content (especially before it was changed to "pop culture") you know that's how those types operate. it's just a matter of the higher ups not noticing and allowing it, same as always

>>78985484
I'm not the one who feels "antagonized" by someone who freely mentions the homos. If that's enough for you to feel antagonized then yes, that's mental illness

>>78985484
Be careful anon, she's sneaking heavy metals into your food while you sleep

>>78985701
You’re arguing with people with the same political views as her, retard

>>78985445
You know this doesn't make it look any better right? Just shows that you people are NPC fucks that literally regurgitate the same wordage and arguments over and over

>>78985023
That's a classic.

>>78985322
You faggots a century ago:
>we just want women to be able to vote!!!
You faggots now:
>we just want to be able to chemically castrate our children!!!

The slippery slope “fallacy” has proven time and time again to be a universal law. You know it’ll get much worse than this; stop being a disingenuous fuck.

>>78985445
>>78985613
Sisters stick together I guess

>>78981649
The incels own themselves

>>78985597
>just keep this whore away from the rest of Hololive
She's here, she's staying and she WILL collab with your favorite. You have indeed lost, since the first StarsJP and the creation of Myth

>>78985279
Unikeks seething so much because Elizabeth is proof that all the parroting of unikeks dropping her before debut meant nothing in the end and now they realizing sucking off each other in here was for nothing

>>78985734
I couldn’t care less about the holostars shit
I can recognise a trained marxist when I see one
Her xitter profile was full of tranny and groid worshipping bullshit

>>78985734
Its antagonistic because literally no other Holo is as open about it and pushy as she is. She literally fucking drew homos in her debut and made it clear that she was singing their songs in her karaoke

>>78985811
>Thread starts with crying about the homos
>Thread ends up with /pol/ brainrot
A tale as old as time

>>78985811
How the hell did you manage to somehow relate this /pol/ shit to the perceived antagonization of unicorns?

>>78985790
>>78985891
I accept both your concessions

>>78981507
incels rise up!!
As an incel myself I can’t stand for this homo propaganda. SHE , SHOULD , GRADUATE!!! Incelgod give me strenght

>>78985787
Ok, and? Anons are just trying to get people banned by getting them to specifically talk about rm details

>>78985986
Ughh ugly women shouldn’t exist

>>78985917
My oshi* has not and will never collab with a male, but nice try

>>78985701
>>78985728
k so basically I'm gonna zero fucking actual answers at all and the first anon isn't even confident enough in his horseshit to show me some direct proof, and second anon does not seem to understand how japanese companies work

both of you genuinely should have been aborted

>>78985986
>I don't care about what the vtuber does off stream
>LOOK AT WHAT THIS WHORE HAS ON HER PERSONAL ACCOUNTS
Again, unicucks are the biggest antis and hypocrites in the industry. Then they wonder why no one likes them

>>78985411
They are unironically obsessed.

>>78986087
Unplug your router and delete cookies, dipshit
Bans on this website are a minor annoyance that can be fixed within a minute

>It all comes back down to /pol/

>>78985989
Oh my, what heinous crimes, she's clearly a dangerous lunatic and you a noble and brave hero for forcing yourself to hate watch her in order to document her atrocities

>>78985970
>Means nothing
>Can't even break 30k on her first post-debut solo stream doing the biggest number buff type of stream
Nice copium sister

>>78985997
>>78986006
Because the “/pol/ brainrot” is very relevant to this conversation. How come there’s such a huge overlap between homobeggars/sisters, LGBTQ+ members/sympathizers, and marxists?

>>78985986
>british hag actually looks like a british hag
holy fuck my dick, my immersion is intensified

>>78986256
It always was about /pol/
How slow are you?
>>78986285
This

>>78986012
Still not beating the allegations, sister fuck

>>78985986
>unitroons were the doxxsisters all along
To no one's shock.

>>78986181
>Asking for direct proof for roomate shit
Stop baiting you fucking tourist

>>78986402
I'm not a unicorn and I don’t consider her a member of hololive

>>78986285
>It's all connected, just look at my corkboard with all these things linked with red string

>>78986375
Allege all (You) want. I'm not mindbroken by cocks like (You) faggots lol

>>78985986
wow another unicorn that's a doxxfag. you and your delusional ilk need to be purged from hololive and vtubing as a whole.

>>78986233
Ok 1 I don't care enough about getting 3 day banned to do that and 2 you really think that these thread shitters actually know that there is a way to bypass the ban lol

>>78986474
see >>78986233

>>78986475
What a shame that no other member of hololive shares your opinion

>>78986475
We totally believe you.

>>78986474
kwab

>>78985023
what the fuck is the context of this

>>78986264
>Joins cgdct group
>Does shojo shit
>Asks for a burger
>Gets a BLT

>>78986474
>he doesn't know how to dodge

>>78984154
yeah 6k-10k difference such a miserably close number.

>>78986594
I don’t need you to believe me, shitlib

>>78986506
It all comes down to >>78985811

>>78986475
You better not consider Kiara, Ina, Fauna or Mumei part of hololive either then. Or are you just a seethe-of-the-month kind of retard?

>>78981649
You guys are your own worst enemies

>>78986544
Well clearly you are as you're sucking their dicks and the whore who shills them constantly

>>78986641
>Food analogy

>>78984824
Nono, beggars top the charts of shittiest people in vtubing.

>>78984609
Doesn't matter who it is, it's still a male. or is Roberu special since people like him?
Fucking goal post riggers

>>78986657
Uh yeah? She should've gotten 40k+ but you fucks didn't show up I guess. Not even 30k for that type of stream is pathetic as a first solo stream, even Shiori's gay vtuber history stream mogged this shit

>>78986700
None of those show disdain for the consumers of the company they’ve employed in.

>>78986639
Vox did a dick sucking ASMR long ago and the sisters went apeshit in a way no unicorn ever has in a girl's chatroom.

>>78986270
>c-cant break 30k n-numbersss!!
As opposed to who ??

>>78984507
SHE HASN'T TALKED ABOUT THEM AT ALL ASIDE FROM CONGRATULATING THE ENTIRE FUCKING COMPANY. HOLY FUCK.

>>78986763
This isn't /v/, nobody gives a shit

>>78986869
>is Roberu special since people like him?
Yes? That should be obvious. I'm not sure what goal posts are moved here.

>>78986943
As opposed to literally every other Holo member on their first stream, sub-30k is pathetic, Advent blew those numbers away and that wasn't even a year ago

bitch literally said she’s infiltrating hololive in her debut stream lol

>>78987014
>trying to reason with actual low-functioning autism

So she's the new tool being used to attack Holo from the indies, nijis and vshojo tards huh? Good to know. I hope you guys support and keep watching her just like you do the homos! kek

>>78985811
I wonder how you can be an adamant fan of Vtubers or of a Vtuber and come out spewing anti-suffrage rhetoric. Like you don't trust your own oshi with a vote?

>>78987142
and you faggots say we're the ones gaslighting, you really are like the women you hate

>>78987014
rewriting day old history
lmfao

>>78987014
>Gaslighting sister again
>Ignoring all the replies she sent to the homos while ignoring some of the holo girls
>Ignoring how she literally drew homos in her debut stream
>Ignoring how she blatantly tried to conflate Hololive/Stars together
>Ignoring how she purposefully made an effort to point out how she was going to sing homo songs

>>78986782
I dunno, they aren't the ones jumping at shadows, spouting /pol/s greatest hits nor do they force themselves to watch streams they hate just to have more material to shit up the catalog because, as has been established, beggars don't watch streams

>>78987198
>Like you don't trust your own oshi with a vote?
Yes
I don’t see how this is a bad thing

>>78987142
Sisters will ignore this

>>78987237
you want a timestamp? it was right at the start

>>78987308
I don't know, feels like you're looking down on her in a way

>>78987198
Don't expect logical consistency from people who don't live in reality

>>78985023
No I am, and I hate those bitches, too.

>>78985322
We really aren't mentally ill right now, if we were like exageratting in the past this time, she is 500%, doing more "supporting the boys" moves

>>78987114
>number monkey unikek conveniently moving goalposts
>ignores the cunny buff and the other cgdct Gen members hot more than 10k less ccv than Elizabeth
Not sending your best

>>78987198
I want to chain my oshi up and force her to be my incubator with her only being released when it’s time to cook my meale

para

social

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!

>>78987014
Didn't she acknowledge Faggis in chat and then sang his song again just for him?

>>78985811
>Shares the exact same views as the psychopaths hate-streaming on twitter spaces about how vtubers are degenerates trying to end our ability to have children
>Is on a vtuber board
Why are you even here?

>>78986922
Neither has Elizabeth, hell one of the first things she did was thank the entire company, Live, Stars and Gloss for all their hard work that allowed her and the rest of Justice to be here.
How is that subverting the company?

>>78986869
people didn't care much about JP homos at the time it was obvious they're not going to interact too much (but still a negative) it was also before niji EN pushed their fuckboys to the scene. Also yes there is a difference between Roberu and some annoying homo flips they're unpopular even by homo standards.

>>78987402
>my proof is the lore animation shit they did in the debut
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>>78981507
She's someone who has absolutely no idea about idols and vtubing. Imagine hiring a painter to do NBA one day. He wouldn't have a fucking clue about etiquette. She's just from a completely different world to idols and vtubers.

>>78985125
what the fuck? at least they're aware I guess but jeeesus christ

>>78987296
Yeah instead they send $5 superchats literally begging girls to Collab with their homos. How do you think they got the name homobeggar? If you stay out of /here/ you wouldn't even know Unicorns exist but beggars constantly make their presence known.

>>78987036
Hes a Holostars male. Aren't they Haram from interacting with the Hololive girls?
What about Oga?

>>78987551
>Cunny buff
So why did orange chick get barely 10k ccv then?
Once again, unarchived karaokes are a number buff so no shit she was gonna get the most views compared to the rest who just did normal game streams. Its the fact that it was barely even 4k more at one point that makes it pathetic you homobegging freak of nature

>>78987771
I think Liz's dislike of bullies hit a little too close to home for him

Let's discuss facts:
>Supports the boys
Fact
>Holostar fan
Fact
>likes Hololive too!
Fact
>Antagonistic towards unicorns on purpose
Highest plausibility ever in hololive ever before

Now let's talk to you sisters, firstly why the fuck are you sisters so mentally ill to attack us when we discuss these facts. If you want to disprove it, you need a counter argument understand?
Just calling us mentally.ill won't win you the argument especially when we are pretty fucking rational this time

>>78987014
Hey retard, I'm membered to several holostars and watched both of her karaokes. She sang Bettel's song twice. He was even in her chat, she acknowledged him. That enough proof for you?

>>78987444
How so?

>>78985989
Look, I dislike her too(because she sounds annoying), but to someone as touristy as she is, and normie-coded, that kind of behavior could also just as easily be explained by "Supporting the ol' boys!"
Especially for someone as libbed up as she is.

>>78983432
She's going to collab with girls that we happen to like and it's not clear atm if she knows how to behave around them.

>>78987953
“I don’t like bullies” means “I don’t want to be held accountable for anything I do” for people like her

>>78983420
2 more weeks

>>78987715
You believe I think that the conservacucks are any better? They’re gynocentrists as well, except they believe that men should die in the gutter for vapid born again whores. They already lost the culture war, however, so I’m dealing with you uppity fucks using the homos to push your agenda. Why else would the homos be so blatantly leftist?

>>78988029
So you literally agree with what anon said but you worded it differently

>>78986756
But enough of your homoerotic projections kek

>>78987246
>Replied and liked one tweet each from Stars
>Replied to all her co-workers from Hololive eventually.
>She also drew HoloIDs, your point?
>She thanked the company as a whole, which is comprised of Hololive, Holostars and Hololive ReGloss.
>She shouted out a co-worker that commented in her chat, like every other streamer ever, and sang his song a second time. So what?

>>78987838
Which boggles the mind of why she got hired, does Cover really want the type of audience she'll potentially bring?

>>78987988
Correct me if I'm wrong, but saying you don't trust your oshi to vote is basically saying you don't think she lacks the capabilites to participate in a functioning democracy because she's a woman, but (You), however, do. That's what I mean when I say that it seems like you're looking down on her

>>78988091
Is that what the voices say?

>>78982299
she tweets at them constantly and included a bunch of art she drew of them in her debut, how much more blatant can she be?

>>78983832
>>78983832

holy fuck the cope there is no way she's not going to homocollab HARD soon as the ban is lifted also expect raids into 300 viewer homo streams on a regular basis

>>78985411
I'm a fan of Bettel. He reminds me of a mix of Jerma and Vinesauce while having the energy levels of Oneyplays.

>>78987955
Its just gaslighting, they know that everything which has been laid out is true and is why they constantly try to shift the conversation or be like "nu uh its unikeks who are the problem"

>>78987955
>Antagonistic towards unicorns on purpose
>Highest plausibility ever in hololive ever before
Unicorns will go to great lengths do delude themselves just to look like the victim. Good to know you're just like the npc's you claim to be against

>>78988029
>>78987955
Her behavior is pretty damn close to going against Hololive itself.
>90% disagrees with her own genmate views
>Doesn't understand her own position but decides to take a stand

Well her popularity isn't gonna last long though, just like Doki, causes don't give popularity.
Being a magnet for drama makes people ignore you even more.
Let me emphasize on "IGNORE"
THIS ISNT ABOUT LIKING OR HATING HER.

FACTS ARE WE JUST MAJORLY FUCKING HATE DRAMA MAGNETS

>>78988193
NTA but no, they said completely different things. Being antagonistic carries the implication of intent, that she's actively wanting to hurt unicorns or something. Meanwhile the other anon is saying that he doesn't think there's malicious intent and that she's just acting as she would as a homo fan

>>78988141
More like 5 more months, its only been 7ish months bud

>>78985701
I heard she was also secretly planning to buy both companies and put nijisanji in charge of all the hololive idols.
Don't believe me? Do your reps

>>78987910
>k-karaoke is a massive buff
>24h ago kept saying her singing was shit
>less than 48h ago kept saying everyone dropped her
>fucking random English songs is enough for unikeks to swallow their pride and watch her , 30k of them
Fuck Off or KYS whichever comes first

>>78988293
She's obviously extremely talented. Cover also doesn't like to hire just ex vtubers in every gen. Almost all of them have one non vtuber in them. I think promise is the only one with only ex vtubers.

>>78988146
Retard I'm TALKING about the conservacucks.
The ones who want to ban porn and boards that would distribute it (i.e. this one)

>>78988230
>Replied and liked several tweets from each stars
>Replied only to a few Hololive members
>Still drew homos
>The "company is in reference to Hololive, nobody ever looks to Cover as a unified thing unless they are unity fags
>Nah, the vast majority of Holo girls don't even acknowledge the homos. Don't try to gaslight it into it being a "normal" thing fucking faggot ass bitch

>>78988051
Is that a serious concern? do you believe that she hasn't received any training whatsoever from cover, that they don't all chat with eachother on discord or that she's completely ignorant of hololive and vtuber culture? It can't be healthy to be so anxious about shit like that man

>>78988583
>I think promise is the only one with only ex vtubers
Nah same thing for them, neither Sana nor IRyS were Vtubers before Hololive

>>78988423
>Unicorn is victim

That is not even the issue and I shouldn't even respond to your half baked answer but the main issue is her fucking drive, or will. Is her drive in joining hololive really going against the unicorns on purpose, isn't that pretty sad?
That's why we need to discuss if she is focusing more on supporting the boys or going antagonistic towards unicorns.
There is always a wedged goal between the two and we wil see what she decides to pursue

>>78981507
It is amazing how red woman causes so much seethe /here/ and she's only been around for 2 days.

>>78988146
Anon, most artists and content creators are lefties. Liberal in thought because expression or whatever. Why is it surprising to you that most of western vtubers(mostly from Canada and California) are blatantly leftist?? Did you buy the pro trump anime edits or something?

>>78987876
Oga, hmmm, I don't know. It's just with Roberu I haven't really read a bad thing about him, I guess also the fact that he gets shipped with some other indie or niji chick makes him even more safe.
They are haram, but he seems to get less flak for everything.

>>78988193
I'm saying she's probably just an idiot old lady trying to be supportive but the unicorns are deranged and take anything not explicitly agreeing with them as a concerted attack and culture war. Normies are dumb and kinda just do shit. Idk why that's so difficult to grasp.

>>78988561
She is literally the appointed leader and main singer of her gen, what are you even trying to argue here? Imagine thinking that barely 30k on this type of stream is something to be proud of, this gen is gonna be lucky to maintain 3k ccv within a month

>>78988734
I think irys was an exvtuber. Sana wasn't though you're right.

>>78988329
I think that women shouldn’t concern themselves about politics, period
That doesn’t mean I think less of them
I also think that democracy is gay and retarded

>>78986912
Delusional and retarded. What a combo.

>>78988293
Yes. They very clearly do. They've been hiring at least one homostar lover every gen. They're fucking collaborating with the dodgers and rented out a new york concert hall retard. This isn't her agenda. It's theirs.

>>78988583
Talent is objective, the only thing I thought was decent was her impressions but so many other holos can do those but also have other things going for them. Right now, she's just a "heh look at me and how quirky I am being a unity fag and trying to change the Holo culture from within," Fucking brit bonger of course trying to colonize something that wasn't theirs

>>78987955
It's very easy to see through their tactics. Me normal, you are abnormal, therefore I'm right, you are wrong.
So they keep bashing on your dumb unicorn head how much of a bad person you are for supporting those shitty girls, and since you are a bad person, it means you are wrong on every topic.

>>78988405
This fries the sister's brain
Incapable of grasping that you cab like holostars without homobegging

>>78988710
Have you seen the entire picture of HoloPro? It's all of the branches, Hololive, HoloStars and ReGloss.
You aren't winning this despite your efforts.

>>78988763
Because the seethe is justified
>There's a hair in my food so I complain
>"Hey stop bitching, at least wait to digest the food first."

>>78989036
>Fucking brit bonger of course trying to colonize something that wasn't theirs
hello sars

>>78988952
>democracy is gay and retarded
Maybe so but it beats autocracy every time

>>78988761
>Is her drive in joining hololive really going against the unicorns on purpose, isn't that pretty sad?
First of all, learn english. Second, you're assuming her intentions from your own victim complex angle. You unicorns are not first place in any vtuber's minds, especially not during debut, where everyone nis just the collective "audience". You're initial premise is completely false to begin with. That's why you're wrong and pathetic for insisting this is the case

>>78988450
You are quite literally creating the drama along with the swifty loving holostar lovers. If you hate drama magnets you hate yourself.
90% disagree? My guy she and two of the others are into BL hard. That isn't something a conservative woman's going to be into I got bad news for you.
Do your reps on the actual lives and views of the other talents lol instead of just assuming they agree with you.

>>78989010
You ignoring established precedent is in fact you being delusional and retarded, literally all other 1st stream post-debuts have had crazy numbers to follow. This set was horrible, stop coping sister

>>78988894
Tell us how keknauth was doing on their first streams

>>78989036
I agree bro, like damn fuck this woman, every fucking leader in every gen has been so annoying. (Except Myth, since no official one)

>>78989243
Autocracy is good as long as the autocrat is on my side and oppresses people I dislike

>>78989024
Whatever you wanna believe cuck

>>78989036
Did you mean objective or subjective? I mean she's an incredible singer no matter what you might think of her. She has amazing range as well. She's probably one of if not the best singer in Holo at the moment just because of technique.
I don't even think she cares about the culture or wants to change it. She's a normy who decided to apply to some weird japanese company probably because she knows Nerissa and was encouraged to do so. But I think she's just a normy who has no clue about idol culture or anything and just see's people getting mad because she's talking to males and in reality any normy would be like "what the fuck who do you think you are telling me who I can talk to!?"
The big mistake is viewing her as an idol. She's a normy with talent who got the golden ticket for some reason. If she doesn't say she wants to be an idol or adhere to idol culture then you shouldn't treat her as an idol or get mad when she collabs with males.

>>78989024
and? the branches are still segregated. and the boys need permission to collab with the girls, even if the girls initiate the collab request.

>>78989261
How would you feel if you didn’t eat breakfast today?

>>78988583
Nope. Even "promise" i.e. council. Sana wasn't really much of a streamer.

The bullies she dislikes is (you). Yes, you, the anon reading this
>Verification not required.

>>78989126
>Hololive and stars separate

>>78989126
I'm going to be serious here. I am a unityfag, and yet when a Holo mentions "Hololive", they mean Hololive, which excludes Stars, not Hololive Production, which encompasses all. There is a distinction your retard brain can't seem to comprehend here.

>>78989288
idk who you are even trying to say

>>78987771
>Live

fuck off sister

>>78981507
>is an excellent singer
>wants to eradicate bullies
>create safe haven in Hololive English Production
>by far highest subbed Justice member
Yeah she's the breakout star of this gen

>>78989319
Who's Promise's leader? I think Advent has Shiori.
I'd personally say that either Mori or Goomba is the closest thing to a leader for Myth.

>>78989388
>Best singer in Holo
Ok just stop right there, sure I'll say she's at least above average but best in Hololive already? Get the fucking initial hype earphones off for a minute lmao

>>78987955
Why do all those things make her "antagonistic"? Is a girl who plays games you dislike also attacking you? Was Nerissa purposefully antagonizing Kiara antis by being open about liking her? That's what I don't get.
>>78988710
>Replied and liked several tweets from each stars
>Replied only to a few Hololive members
This can easily be explained by her being excited to talk to ppl she watches and nervous to talk with ppl she doesn't know as much about. I don't see why you insist it's deliberate and also a political statement aboyt company culture or something
>>78989036
> trying to change the Holo culture from within,"
And what if she isn't "trying to change the Holo culture"? This is just her thing and her genmates are free to do whatever? You don't know that

>>78981507
I can't believe people actually want to watch a holostars cocksleeve. No thank you.

>>78989418
Yeah because the company is afraid of backlash. Not because it's trying to keep them separate.
More collabs means more views. It's a fundamental building block of why they're done in any industry. Cross-pollenation. The more you can keep views to yourself and not other companies, the better. It's literal basic business.
Think with your brain, anon.

>>78989590
kek good ragebait, using this one later

>>78989427
That only makes me want to fuck her more.

>>78989323
Autocrats are on nobodies side but their own, if you are useful you will be spared and if not you'll be discarded. Best get used to the taste of boot polish or you'll soon become undesirable

>>78989188
>Food analogy
Cringe but as always, the premise is wrong with you unicucks
>Bitch tells you from the get go she's a fan of something you don't like
which is what (You) fucks claim you want
>homos have been a thing for years before eop tourists came in with coco/myth
>they've hired girls who are fans of these homos before
Why do you set yourselves up to be wrong every single time? Happened with kronii, happened with shiori. Just fuck off

>>78989474
Multiple talents have used Hololive, not Hololive Production, to refer to the whole company, including golden gen members like Pekora talking about Roberu.

>>78989590
>>wants to eradicate bullies

>>78989677
Hitler is my friend he wouldn’t do that

>>78989600
Bae is supposed to be Council/Promise's leader,being a primordial force of reality and all instead of a concept
and Ame was supposed to be Myth's leader, being the investigator looking into the phenomena around the monster girls.

>>78989261
Bitch you mispelled even more than me your mistakes are:
>You're -> Your
>nis -> is

You are telling me to learn english?? Bet my fucking ass you are ESL cause my english was fucking perfect.

Now on to the unicorns topic, you think I'm that emotionally driven to be a unicorn, kahahaha you fucking mongrel fool, i was never a fucking unicorn, I'm a casual hololive fan who has no oshi, I'm just being analytical on how fucking pathetic you all are defending this grown woman who is obviously forgetting she is a streamer
Who the hell says "I'll focus all my energy on supporting the cause and boys" in their streaming debut. Even fucking well knowned flesh streamers would laugh their ass off of this.

>>78989590
>Excellent singer
kek
>Bullies
Deflection from any criticism she recieves
>Safe haven in muh "Holo pro"
Fuck off, go to niji then cuck
>Caring about sub count
Ollie has one of the biggest ID channels in Hololive, but has some of the lowest numbers. Give it a month and this redhead whore will be there herself

>>78989590
this chick has produced some of the finest bait I've ever seen, and this might be one of the best of those bait posts. Fucking saved

>>78989616
I think she's better than any holo singer right now. JP, ID or EN. I'm not exaggerating and I'm not even oshing her. I don't think people realize how good she is at singing. Most holo's are not even close to actual professional singers and she is. It's a fact no matter what you might think of her.

>>78989188
Why are unitards so uniformly shit at analogies?

>>78989422
NTA, I didn't eat breakfast today. Thought you should know

>>78989696
Which ones?

>>78989744
Hitler told me you wet the bed when you were younger, you wanna pick your friends carefully

>>78989126
why are beggars always corposhills? Nobody cares about Cover's marketing gimmicks certainly not the actual stream-watching fans well aware how many times they fucked up and how little understanding of the fanbase they show.

>>78989624
"uwu i'm so nervous I can't reply to my female coworkers on Twitter, but will openly whore out constantly on homo tweets after almost 24 hours from when it was posted"

>>78981507
Not gonna watch her.
Love me Green Doll.

>>78989934
But he told me I'm his top guy…

>>78989695
>Happened with Shiori
Lol, no. You fuck off. Shiori has replied a single thank you on twitter, a place that does not matter.
Shiori has never homo collabed and is not part of your "agenda".

>>78989812
>Bae is supposed to be Council/Promise's leader,being a primordial force of reality and all instead of a concept
I remember that, and now that I think about it, kinda makes sense. She can speak JP, so she's already closer with HoloJP than her genmates, yeah that makes sense.
>and Ame was supposed to be Myth's leader, being the investigator looking into the phenomena around the monster girls.
Remember when Ame actually streamed regularly? Forget chumbuds, I feel for the teamates.

>>78989631
Nobody does tho, its just beggars/sisters/eurofags coping with the initial hype wave. We'll see their true numbers in a month or 2, and then people will realize that this kind of demand is even less than the fucking ID branch. Which is where alot of this deflection is coming from btw, cause ID fags were triggered that EN got a 4th branch before them

>>78989945
I was making a point that Elizabeth was thanking the ENTIRE COMPANY which is comprised of the three branches, and not just the Stars, which a lot of autistic retards seem to think, since it's apart of their narrative packet.

>>78989616
Yeah idk why there's only like two options here, "godly" or "blue haired granny troon with terrible voice trying to rape your children"
Like...you can acknowledge that she's OK at singing, but also...not that amazing, anons.
Kind of irrelevant to the whole unicorn debate.

>>78989934
LIES

>>78990078
ALRIGHT ENOUGH OF THIS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ERB

>>78989695
>Caring about le food analogy outside of /v/
See it would be one thing if she was just like "yeah I like stars and appreciate what they've done", but she constantly interacts with them and shit to make a point. Once again, being a fan of the homos as a Holo isin't a problem; its when they make it their entire identity and try to purposefully antagonize people with it

>>78990176
who cares about constructive, polite conversation.
People need to yell at each other.

>>78990070
NTA
Anon, that hitler porn game isn't real life I hope you know that.

>>78990279
anon you're in a troll thread what do you expect?

>>78990176
That's not what I'm talking about on this here Luxembourgish construction forum.

>>78989886
Nah, you're just objectively wrong. If she was such an amazing signer, the best in Hololive, she would've gotten 50k+ ccv from that karaoke but she didn't. She's mediocrity personified, a pizza without any sauce or toppings

There's a possibility that you all are ignoring

What if she's just a huge normie?
What if she just genuinely doesn't 'get it'?

Something that I find horribly unacknowledged, is that Vtubing, and by extension Hololive, are gaining more and more attention from the wider world.

What if she isn't a weeb?
What if she's just a complete normie that liked the pretty anime characters + talent agency combo?

>>78990240
She isn't purposefully antagonizing anyone, she's acting like a normal ass person and you're interpreting it as an attack on you personally because you're used to people catering to your autism

>>78990388
Thank you, finally someone fucking says it

>>78990130
Its pretty much the modern rating system in a nutshell. "Oh you didn't give this thing a 10/10, that means you hate it." Oh you didin't give this thing a 1/10, that means you loved it."

>>78990475
No matter what you fucking say, her entire identity is now "OH SHIT ITS THAT GIRL WHO SUPPORTS THE BOYS SUPER SAIYAN LEVELS"
SO YES WE WILL FUCKING SAY THAT

>>78990471
Then she shouldn’t have applied and shouldn’t have been hired
I cannot imagine this bitch singing Shiny Smily Story in Makuhari in 2 years
It’s just not compatible

>>78990388
STOP USING FOOD ANALOGIES

>>78985125
Yikes

>>78990471
I think she is a brony...

>>78990388
she got 25k and held on to 25k for a solid three hours of nonstop singing. The numbers weren't stellar, but they were consistent, which is something you look for in a fanbase.

>>78990158
Hitler's bad for you anon, come on, we're all worried for you. You keep staying out late and coming home with bloodshot eyes talking about the Lance of Longinus or other weird hippy crap. Please, just stay for dinner, don't go out and see him again.

>>78988720
Kiara mentioned they were intrduced to them just recently and they didn't actually talk much and I seriously feel like ERB is more of a homo than holo fan she didn't have much to say about her senpai who don't have a dick so far and I'm 90% sure she's busy DMing homos with the way they react to her all the time. Training? They feel rushed, recruited and trained by a different team (homo side?) or she just ignored all the advice because she's the activist type well soon we're going to find out if she can keep homoshit to herself.

>>78990475
"So what if the person next to you is having the waiter shit directly onto his plate? It's not like YOU ordered shit. The waiter said your tendies will be out ten minutes or so. For fuck's sake anon, this is a restaurant. If the person next to you wants to loudly slurp and lap at a mound of rancid shit, that's HIS choice. Not everyone in the restaurant is going to have the same preferences as YOU."

>>78990471
Her being a normie doesn't make it any better, in fact it makes it worse. See someone like Subaru was also a normie, and eventually came to appreciate the culture she now worked in. This chick is coming into the culture, with obviously some knowledge knowing about niche shit with some of the homos, and isin't likely to change course

>>78990757
> she just ignored all the advice because she's the activist type
its this one

>>78990636
Fun fact: she sang SSS' english version in her archived karaoke and nailed it.

>>78990787
>food analogy
saaar...

>>78990852
>SSS' english version
fucking ew

>>78990592
Imagine being this delusional.

>>78990475
This is the problem, its not a normal hobby this is an escapist hobby for people that want to watch cgdct. This is the same shit with "oh we need more diversity/inclusion in gaming" when nobody asked for it. Acting like a "normal ass person" when this medium is anything but normal. I don't go to a steak restaurant and expect to get vegan options

>>78990888
Doesn't apply to vtuber agencies. They produce content, and that content is consumed. If we were talking about art, philosophy, politics, etc, your /pol/ rhetoric would have meaning. But in this context, you just sound like you're admitting you have no argument.

>>78990592
Yeah its pretty much this, aside from being the "singer" of the group all the hype surrounding her has just been sisters and beggars celebrating about how heckin based she is for talking to the homos

>>78990787
I guess you shouldn't go to a restaurant that has shit on the menu lol

>>78991007
I'm saving this for later. That's some good shit.

>>78990787
Dude stop creating elaborate fantasies and switch off the stream, it's that fucking easy. Also,
>Food analogy

>>78991093
No one cared she talked to the stars boys until you incell fucks wouldn't fucking shut up about it consistently for a week.

>>78990749
Consistency doesn't matter when the numbers are below expected, if she started at 40k+ and dropped to 25k eventually then it would be a different story

>>78991095
You're correct.
If this problem continues, then no longer watching Holo starts to become a more and more real solution. However, I would really rather they just stop serving shit.

>>78991007
/thread

>>78990592
Yup pretty much this. All those X people are gonns weaponize her for the boys.
People are gonna attack me and say I'm delusional or mentally ill, which I'm not becausr that's exactly what's happening right now

>>78989261
>you're assuming her intentions from your own victim complex angle
>after assuming her intentions from his own victim complex angle

>>78991156
>Dude stop creating elaborate fantasies and switch off the stream
And this is what outs you as a tourist
>Just don't care about the thing you care about

>>78991212
In a perfect world, that would be the case. Call me a doomer, but I think this is the start of something worse in corpo vtubing. I'd start finding a 2view that suits your fancy.

>>78991049
I was just making fun of shit and food, anon, I'm not the one that was arguing with you.

>>78990840
People said this about
>Fauna
>Mumei
>Shiori
All course corrected just fine.

>>78990471
>if
she's a confirmed clipfag

>>78991007
If you go to a steak restaurant and there's steak and vegan shit on the menu just order the steak, don't order the vegan option and then complain it's not steak

>>78990388
You're objectively wrong. But there's not much point in me trying to convince you. Needless to say she is not only talented but well trained. Life long training is what makes someone a professional singer. She is a professional singer. Most in Holo are not.
Sorry she hurt your feefees because she spoke to a homo once but your opinion is OBJECTIVELY dogshit.

>>78991190
The fact she retained a consistent number does matter. The number of viewers only matter in a monetary sense, that she doesn't have to worry about for a little while. But the fact she can consistently keep a steady viewership means she won't have spikes and dips,

>>78991319
>but how does this affect you PERSONALLY?
why is it that zoomers despise escapism and feel that everything should grounded, realistic, and catered towards "all audiences"
We as a culture havee gone full circle back to the 1980s where everything was safe, sanitized, and made to not offend anyone.

>>78991170
They were the ones who constantly talked about her doing this, we are just responding in tow. Stop trying to gaslight this as a "le unicorn bad" situation, when there are clear agitators who came from herself doing this on her side

>>78991438
I apologize for my hostility

Please accept this peace offering

>>78991575
Just because she's trained does not make her the best. No one is denying that she's good. But compared to all-time Holo greats like Suisei and Sora, she still has a ways to go to become a good idol singer.

>>78991319
>No! I have to watch this vtuber talk about the homos because.. I just do ok! She's going to RUIN EVERYTHING because SHE JUST IS OK! STOP CALLING ME A SCHIZO

>>78991464
Uh nobody insinuated that those 3 were "normies", they were quite literally stereotypical weeb girls who have been heavily involved in the medium for years lol

>>78991007
Then the issue isn't with the talent, the issue is with the company that's been for better or worse laying down their intentions every year to appeal to as wide of audience as possible. That is not the game plan of a company meant solely for escapist cgdct, that's just corporate business. Sure, it worked for them but that's obviously not the end goal. All consumers should do their own research instead of making assumptions based on a pre-2020 framework. It's partially why Holostars only followed Hololive by a year tops.

>>78991538
That's not the point, the point is that the vegan shit was put there to appease a demographic that never would have gone to the restaurant. This chick is that vegan option, the type of people who want that shit in Hololive were never fans and never will be

>>78991885
Was Mumei ever confirmed to be orcschizo or was that just some retard /here/ that started a rumor pre-debut?

>>78991798
I mean it literally does. Talent is nothing without training. She has both. Being talented will never get you as far as someone who has had extensive vocal training since they were a child. Like I said you don't know what you're talking about. You're bringing up girls who have just not had that level of training, it's not a remotely worthy comparison. You'd understand this if you ever mixed for anyone.

>>78991575
So if she's so talented, why was she practically a nobody before and why completely give up her identity to become a vtuber that's an extremely niche market? You are just coping with trying to make her into something she's not, which is an "amazing" singer. She'll never get actual mainstream brand deals, albums, 3D concerts or anything like the actual singers of Hololive Suisei/Cali/etc

>>78991989
Well if no one wants the vegan option then no one will buy it, everyone just orders the steak and everyone's happy

>>78991538
You dumb clown bitch. The vegans would use the in to grand stand. Just imagine some uppity self-saluting whore ordering a fucking salad and making a speech about how she wants to save all animals. That's the homo beggars. They WILL and likely ALREADY ARE using this cunt to slippery slope pro-homo rhetoric into other Hololive discussions.

>>78991590
Once again, it does not matter. You should always reach your peak viewership in the beginning and then start to decline as the stream goes on. The fact that she basically peaked at the start with such pathetic numbers and didn't decline means that she has no room to grow, which is incredibly bad this early on

>>78992212
What kind of dumbass question is this?
>If she's so talented why doesn't she like vegetables!?
I mean it's completely irrelevant. You can tell instantly she's professionally trained in singing and has incredible range which indicates talent. Both of which just put her far above other hololive members as a matter of course.
If you're going to quote stream numbers or other dumbass points I'm going to lose interest in this conversation pretty quickly.

>>78991940
And nobody is giving Cover a pass for trying to appeal to these types of people either, they are equally to blame for hiring someone like this to try widening their market. Its the same reason why they are testing the waters again in China

>>78992264
2 more weeks till FWMC salad tierlist stream then the world ends

>>78992223
Its the fact that its there is the problem, that's it

>>78983014
what is this image?

>>78992455
Why are you now shifting the argument into whether she's talented? I never said she wasn't talented, just that she's not the "OMG BEST SINGER IN HOLOLIVE"

>>78992794
Yeag the sisters are losing their mojo, I knew we were the smart ones

>>78992794
What shift? You're getting really upset. I said the point is that talent is meaningless unless it's accompanied with training and usually from a young age. Training is what makes someone professional. Talent makes someone an amateur. Most of hololive are amateur singers with later training. Elizabeth is a professional singer.

>beggars will call her the greatest singer in the world simply because she sings songs by the fags
Sasuga, headcanon

>>78992941
Once again, you are completely derailing the argument from "Elizabeth is now the best singer in Hololive" into "uh well actually she is talented and has experience," when that was never what the argument was about. But I guess you can't expect much from a fan of a whore

>>78992539
That's the thing: this isn't necessarily a new venture, it's been planned for years to make something from Hololive Productions for everyone. Not saying them steering away from it is impossible, but definitely not without a poignant reaction from actual fans. If them producing a shitter branch and keeping them on life support for 5 years wasn't enough, almost nothing will be enough to Make Hololive CGDCT Again.

>>78992684
Maybe you should stop getting triggered by shit you can easily and safely ignore, imagine it's a starving African child, no one cares about them or loses sleep, you can do the same with homos and beggars

>>78992941
BWAHAHHAA THIS SISTER DEFLECTING, YOU THINK WE ARE DUMB

>>78992722
A year old tweet attempting to cancel Bettel only to be completely ignored. She keeps posting that in an attempt to "own" Holostars fans completely forgetting the Bettel couldn't care less about SJU shit

>>78992539
>Appealing to everyone means you appeal to no one. This coincide with their plan to break into the more "mainstream" audience.

>>78992722
Sisters trying to cancel other sisters for sending Bettel a “racist” gift

>>78993255
Its kind of hard to simply ignore this shit when it literally keeps happening, its why entertainment is so shit now because there always has to be some kind of message and look at how diverse we are or whatever

>>78992212
I don't like her but I never understood that argument. Just because someone's talented doesn't mean they'll see instant popularity, hell it doesn't mean they were even -seeking- popularity. There's nothing strange about people who are insanely good at something not deciding to pursue widespread success until later down the line, it happens all the time.

>>78993224
What does being a professional singer mean to you when compared with amateur singers? She's the best singer in hololive. She is the best singer because she is professionally trained and has talent.
Are you ESL? Do you not speak english? You got objective and subjective mixed up earlier so I'm kinda wondering.
You seem to get real mad when someone tells you you're wrong too. You're very emotionally sensitive huh?

>>78993333
Which is always a mistake, no matter what it is trying to appeal to literally everyone never works out because there are always going to be people upset and not satisfied

>>78993543
>being a professional automatically makes you the best at anything
Retardmaxing your posts shouldn’t be the standard for beggars, but here we are.

>>78993543
>she is the best singer
Lmao trying to gaslight people when we heard you say "best singer of hololive"
I knew all holostar faggots were annoying as fucks
I'm gonna remember you permanently, your nickname is now "GaslightSister"

>>78993470
Except in this case, its clear clout chasing, she already tried to "break out' but failed and now is using Hololive as her own boost not caring about the already established culture and what not

>>78993235
>keeping them on life support for 5 years wasn't enough.
Hololive's succesful branding was built by the girls themselves yet yagoo wants to dilute and break it by inserting holostars inside. This is like changing the main content people were there for in the first place, and I can't help but compare it the social politics getting inserted in AAA games nowadays.

>>78993751
I don't care to dig for her past life stuff but if you say so. Personally I'll wait for a few weeks before deciding she's clout chasing or is simply trying her luck.

>>78993543
So she's only the best singer because she's professional trained and has talent then? Uh huh, guess that completely invalidates all the actual current Hololive members that have been going through training and routines and have done concerts for hundreds of thousands of people already

>>78993981
Trying their luck was what Myth did because there was no guarantee that an EN branch would work, people who apply now are just clout chasing for an easy gig

>>78993462
Entertainment having "messages"has been a thing since the dawn of civilization, fiction literally exists to convey messages and morals to people without complexities

>>78993720
When compared to amateurs... yes it usually does. Are you stupid?
>>78993747
You're a very sensitive person. Toughen up.
>>78993986
She's the best singer because she has considerable talent that has been strengthened with years of professional training likely starting from very young.
I mean... You really can't be this stupid right? If you try gymnastics tomorrow and are talented at it, do you think you're even remotely comparable to an olympic athlete that has been training on bars since she was 6?
Conversations like this really remind me I'm speaking to either children or people who are extremely sheltered.

>>78993981
HoloEN is akreadu succesful, she is bringing it down, fucking pathetic women here, bet you all get investment scams because of how stupid you guys are

>>78994145
I prefer not being this cynical, it's just being bitter. Unless there's a good reason, which by the way you're talking it sounds like there is, but not for the other Justice girls. I've been enjoying the shit out of CC, GG and Raora.

>>78993462
People tend to get louder when they aren't allowed to mind their own business. You should've gatekept the loud antis stepping on everyone else

>>78994165
Let me guess "muh media literacy"

>>78994255
You are conflating skill with a title for the sake of agitating opposing fanbases.

>>78994401
What the literal fuck are you rambling about you fucking weirdo

>>78994255
Sister replying to the majority again, amazing GaslightSister, we all know you are pathetic and would get fucked by a man and become a housewife in the future anyways

>>78994469
Read the fucking bible man

>>78994255
Enough gaslighting sister, your redhead whore is a horrible singer with no talent and will not even be anywhere near the same level as the actual singers of Hololive

>>78994145
Yes and they made it work and popular only for new members not aligned to the culture they built try and change it all while receiving all the benefits of their past hardwork. I really don't know what cover is thinking with this when they could have just made a separate branch that solely help out holostars just like regloss.

>>78994255
You know you just spoke to people who represent the majority, ever think you are the fucking child?

>>78994408
How is it cynical when its true? All of myth talked about just applying on a whim, the rest that came after saw the success and wanted in on it. In regards to this gen, yeah it applies the same. They were all literal who's who have now risen above to this level

>>78994513
>>78994900
>>78994638
>>78994564
No you're just stupid and sheltered. You have no concept of reality.
Just because someone can run really fast doesn't make them able to beat Usain Bolt in a race.
Training shapes muscles. It creates elements of control, power and technique that talent cannot provide. I used the gymnastic comparison for a reason because it's the most apt.
Getting up and singing even if you're really good at singing is not going to compare to someone who has been trained their whole life to sing and control their voice.
Listen. For your families sake. Get out of your room. Get some experience of the real world. You're so sheltered it's unbelievable this concept is alien to you.

>>78994436
Kind of hard to when we literally cannot do anything about it except complaining

>>78995009
>Elizabeth is the Usain Bolt of singers
Wew lad, I’m beginning to think you’re actually her with that supreme delusion.

>>78994944
Because acting like the only reason to apply is because of the success and nothing else is a very cynical take. Even if it's among the reasons, it makes it sound like you believe they couldn't have applied also because they genuinely like hololive. It's like when people shit on someone who genuinely likes a very popular artist claiming they just like them because it's a popular artist and not because they simply like it. And obviously I'm not denying that it's impossible to call Myth "clout chasers", but to project that on the rest IS cynical. I'll agree with you regarding those holos that clearly knew jack shit about holo before entering but you cannot tell me with a straight face that Biboo, FWMC, Fauna or Mumei were "just" "clout chasing".

>>78995238
>takes that part of the entire paragraph, misinterprets it, seethes about it
You're gonna have a hard life growing up kid. I feel sorry for your parents. Seriously.

>>78994165
>Literally exists to convey messages and morals.
Man I sure do love games that constantly tells me about their message and morals. The problem here is the fact it's getting forced into something that didn't have it in the first place. Make a new fiction, entertainment, branch or whatever and build their own brand from that message if they want to push the 'message' rather than worming their way into something that already have their own.

>>78995009
I know I don't say this often since I see most people as normal or rational.
But you are the most delusional GaslightSister

>>78995009
Man, the amount of coping here to defend this bitch as being "the best singer in Hololive" is insane. Just accept it you fuck, she sucks and no amount of "muh talent and training" will beat how better the other actual members of Hololive are compared to her

>>78994145
"Easy Gig"
>Every girl mentions all the work and effort that goes into every one of their events. the constant rehearsals, and vocal training to sing and dance.
>Several have also mentioned the amount go work that goes into the normal day to day of being a streamer.
"easy clout" is exactly what Magni and Vesper thought being in HoloPro was, and then they actually had to do things and immediately left.

>>78995306
It is what it is, fact of the matter is that these girls, all of them, were practically nobodies in terms of streaming. They saw the quick and easy path to success that Hololive offered and yolo'd on it. Congratulations that they made it in, but it doesn't disrupt the fact that it was purely for clout
Also FuwaMoco is not a good example here, because do your reps they quite literally only care about chasing clout

>>78995427
>noooo, don’t condense my asinine statement down to the tacks!

>>78995822
Let me guess "streaming is actually le hard job ya know." People applying for Hololive should know exactly what that entails, no sympathy if they bitch about what was already to be expected. Its the same shit here with a fucking homofag joining the company, knowing that nobody else in the company is like this. Or Kronii's fucking "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" retarded statement

>>78996225
>condense
You haven't condensed anything you've completely misunderstood the statement because you're mentally fragile, sensitive and angry.
I was explaining it you like one would to a child. If you good at running, you not as good as very fast man who trained his whole life. I've made this analogy several times over several posts and you're still struggling because you're at least mentally, a seething child.

>>78996254
Rin Penrose actually broke down what the day in the life of a vtuber is like for someone from her japanese corpo.

>>78981507
buy an ad

>>78989933
Ayame, Aki, Mori, Pekora, Noel, Laplus off the top of my head.

>>78996028
>purely

>>78996591
>Japanese corpo
>Idol
uh