/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

You guys said this about Council, and then it turned out to be the best

>>78908897
the only awful one is ERB. the other 3 are good but they just debuted we'll have to wait and see how things are 2-3 months from now

>>78909025

>>78908897
NIJISEETHE

>>78908897
yeah but Ceci is going to carry, trust

CC is great
GiGi is good
Pink cat is bad
ERB is really awful

>>78908897

>mori
>kiara
>ame

reality check: myth is 2/5 by your own standards

OP here, fuck wrong picture

>>78908897
see you again in next gen

>>78909235
Does ERB have any prior experience at all? It feels like another Nerissa situation and worst yet. Cover decided to make her the figurative head of the gen, it feels. Not sure what is going on in their heads here and what they are thinking.

>>78910167
She has experience as a social justice warrior

>>78910816
Everyone said that about Kiara

>>78910945
And it was true
At least Kiara had experience as an idol
This is just some literal who obese voice actress

I have nothing against them but they didn't leave much impression we'll see

>>78911078
Is that right? Tell me more.

>>78909514
How the fuck do (You) know what OP's standards are?

>>78910167
She's been a smalltime content creator for like a decade. She was horse famous and since then has done some light vtubing and shit.

>>78909025
it was right because if you actually watched early council streams live they was much worse than myth. that myth back then still have gura streams regularly and their gen unity is still strong

>>78911078
>At least Kiara had experience as an idol
She had experience applying to join a group, but never had direct experience.
Watch streams.

>>78912212
love it when retards are so confidently wrong

>>78911189
her calorie intake is likely higher than common expenditure

>>78908897
not saying they are bad (though i fucking hate the pink cat), but true, this gen suck

>>78909025
damn are you actually... retarded?
They are just zoomer mass produce slobs, eat that shit and get cancer

>>78911358
so she's a british amalee.

>>78909602
Elizabeth is just female vox

>>78913209
Oh, elizabeth got a proven track record of diddling 14 year olds? Thats news for me

>>78913331
wish that were me

>>78912583
I shall have to watch her career with great interest then. Perhaps she may even bring up her consumption habits

>>78910167
damn you too retarded to look up her PL?

>>78913209
wow, my wallet can't wait for that blowjob asmr.

>>78913485
damn you too a tourist?

>>78913331
>MLP fan
Do I need to say more?

>>78913652
well she is biologically (hopefully) female, so it is a-okay

>>78909514
Kiara is dedicated to her craft and wants to be an idol. Mori is also still one of the few in Myth that put effort. Ame used to be hard working but doesnt care anymore. Honestly Myth has made much more impact than Justice ever will in three lifetimes

>>78908897
uh huh

Advent was worse, there's 2 watchable ones in this gen at least

>>78908897
are you a fucking american retard, fuck off

>>78914845
mmm rent free

>>78914790
who the fuck cares

>>78913209
So...when will the blowjob asmr steam happen

>>78913209
would a tentacle rape asmr from a woman be gay or nah?

>>78908897
I like the orange and green, don't fully trust the pink one yet but we will see

>>78909025
Except council is still the worst gen, but whatever

>>78913209
>Becomes so popular as to irreversibly change the entire branch, then gives up and falls off, causing the branch to decline with him

>>78908897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilLEj-SCCn8
This is legitimately the worst song I've ever heard
Even Advent's debut song grew on me after a few listens and I hate ENwhores
I hope the doll is at least somewhat talented because this whole lineup is a skip anytime I see them come on or mentioned
I will even click "Not interested" on their art on my fyp.

>>78918454
It's most likely not your style of music then.
Rebellion and Above Below are very solid, Top 15 HoloOrisongs or so for me.

>>78918707
Who does it appeal to, hardcore seamonkies and ADHD children?
Azki and suisei need to drop their albums already, holo tunes have sucked ass the last 3 months

>>78913470
architectposting will never get old for me, gobbless

>>78909025
Nope. Promise is the best.

>>78909025
>Kronii still exists
>Sana gone
>IRyS had to give up being a vsinger and merged into Council
uhhh?

>>78908897
Council exists

>>78918795
Pretty much, I mainly listen to Hardcore genres.
Music you listen to is most likely boring to me.

>>78913331
>14
Miload prefers then a little less ripe than that

>>78918707
You have to be 18 to post here

>>78919026
Sana being gone is part of the reason they're good now

>>78918795
I was gonna say "listen to suisei's last MGO album" but that was in december and you said 3 months so yeah.

>>78909305
this expression of hers is actually quite special

>>78908897
You faggots litterally complain no matter what, and about every thing. Are you that desperate for validation, just kill yourselfs already.

>>78918967
Getting old? We don’t do that here, we live a life of rich indulgence and go out the way nature intended (complications from quadruple bypass surgery)

>>78914845
>pinning Hololive against a small corpo
don't be a bully, anon

>>78909025
FPBP. But this is only true because Sana left and Irys took her place. So, no. Council is still the worst. But yes, Promise is the best.

Seethe, Hololive can't stop winning! EU bros we made it!

>>78919328
I am 31, don't know what teenagers these days listen to

>>78908897
kek, no.

>>78919622
they are barely active

>>78914790
no gen will have as big of an impact as Myth, regardless of quality.

>>78908897
I think all of the gens are good

>>78911189
>>78913470
Enjoy your fat fusjo sjw
https://x.com/MontyVocals/status/1677682066077409281
https://x.com/MontyVocals/status/1413840922186498050

>nobody likes english VAs
>hire english VA
explain

>>78923118
Everyone likes English VA, if not no one would have cared about Kevin Conroy's death.

>>78909025
>Council
>Best
Only 2/5 are good. Amongst the other three one left out of pure laziness, one barely hides how much she hates her fans, and one is fucking Bae.

>>78923754
fuicking cats cradle working out what the fuck you are talking about

>>78908897
I mean to be fair, the bar is high with Holo EN. Myth are THE English vtubers, Councilrys are all very talented with peak designs (yes, even Sana), and Advent seem like an excellent group of hires.
Hell, even Stars1 was pretty decent, it just got ruined by the two standouts of the gen giving up quickly as they clashed too much with management. No idea how the rest of Stars are.

>>78908897
Nah myth and promise exist

>>78908897
yup

>>78923754
But this gen has no good ones.
>>78923355
I don't even know who that is.

>>78908897
I'm watching the pink one right now and my god. Her voice is atrocious. What were they thinking?! Voice is the most important but they hired a bunch of Esl that don't even sound cute. Jesus Christ.

>>78908897
I would agree but half of their senpais are basically dead so no

>>78909025
Advent are the best. All Council got is Fauna.

>>78908897
Definitely. No cute EU loli for us.

>>78928356
Spics and other southern Europeans won't mind.

>>78908897
Yep

>>78928272
>I don't even know who that is
Batman

>>78909025
Council? the gen that all graduated?
Now Promise, thats a real gen right there
"cracks open a monster and takes a sip"

>>78912212
How are you so wrong about the most well known EN roommate

>>78928356
indeed sounds like a obese transsexual and the orange one too

>>78938840
Good ear because the orange one actually is

>>78939140
Not all zoomers are trannies.

CICI WATCH OUT OP IS THE ROAD OH NO *THUMP*

>>78908897
This is the BEST HoloEN gen since Myth.

I started to think that maybe EU accent is just not compatible with vtubing

Raora and ceci are top tier holos
gigi is kinda boring
ERB is kronii/bae tier

Gigi and Cecilia can bring consistent high effort content, amazing original songs and be 5view on a bad day and this gen would still be the worst because of ERB and Raora begging to collab with homos on their debut. I'm hoping when Red and Pink inevitably graduate, the two new members they bring in to replace them are nowhere as bad

Nijisisters cope thread.

>>78947062
Pink also homobegged? I couldn't watch the debuts because I was sleeping.

>>78947279
She also gave the sing with EVERY HOLO mem shit.

>>78947331
Ah. I hate it when people call homostars holos.

>>78947331
So don't fucking watch her. The rest of us who don't give a shit about that petty bullshit will.

>>78947577
>So don't fucking watch her.
Don't need to tell me twice, beggar.

>>78947331
Gimme a fucking timestamp or fuck off, because I definitely do not remember this happening.

>>78922622
This may explain why shondo backed out, if you were made aware this sort of person was joining it's a massive reality check you're about to confront people you will not be able to stand in a company that will implode in the near future. Being British too, she would be forced to interact with her.

>>78908897
I want to fuck the robot and the pink cat. ERB already gets on my nerves and I give Gigi a month before she drops the voice
>>78928356
get filtered

>>78949310
>backed out
Shondo was never in, cretin. And even if she was, beyond some gen collabs it would be very easy for her to avoid ERB eventually, and just form a clique with green women.

>>78949607
It's not a straight upgrade when you're already financially stable being an indie, it's more of a lateral move. If you realise you will have to spend the rest of your career dealing with and avoiding annoying people it's suddenly not worth it. A genmate and the only one in the whole company from your country would be extra effort to avoid.

We know she is aware of this kind of mental rot in companies and how it has destroyed western media, employing people with those views is a massive red flag for future company health, we also just witnessed the implosion of nijisanji for other reasons. There are enough immediate warning signals I would have backed out if put in her position, this isn't something I understood till now.

I do also think this was supposed to be an EU gen and somebody backed out.

>>78950434
>It's not a straight upgrade when you're already financially stable being an indie, it's more of a lateral move.
You're either insane or delusional if you actually believe that.

>>78947331 >>78947062

she she said everyone in hololive. Didn't mention the stars, hasn't interacted with them. So much so that the usual places was screaming that only one of the girls mentioned "da bois".

>>78908897
Does anyone else get Sana flashbacks from Raora?
>artist
>heavy accent

>>78908897
pink woman wasn't as bad as people said. she wants to be an idol and seems really good natured and cultured. but yeah, the rest are pretty bad. woke karen, zoomer coombaiter, and green kiara.

>>78918795
jcore is loved by many otakus even if it's crude.
and besides, this song had way better lyrics and showcased each talent's singing ablities.

>>78911262
We all know exactly what the standards are.
men = bad
no men = good

It's too early to really tell. First impression is about on the same level as Council for me. Definitely a step down from Advent. But we'll see.

>>78913111
But enough about keknauth

>>78911358
>horse famous
she did brony content?

>>78915300

>>78928272
>I don't even know who that is.

>>78908897
I disagree. Elizabeth and Cecelia have huge potential. Raora could be excellent but she just needs to settle in. For me the only potential weak point is Gigi but she had sone top notch banter in the Justice Collab that has me convinced that she can back up her "hyperactive gremlin" lore unlike Bae who abandoned her whole "lmao chaos xD" shtick as soon as she could

>>78923754
I haven't kept up with Promise in a while. Is moom lazy now?

>>78909235
>Excellent voice
>Great singing
>Pretty impressive imitation abilities
>Easily able to chat and banter and fill dead air
>Bad
Hi sis

>>78908897
Here's the boring-ass answer that's the true shit of the matter. But since it's boring no one accepts it: none of it fucking matters. Pitting holo against holo is pointless, because it's all individual taste with chuubas that have a variety of personalities and appeal to different fans. Your opinion therefore is worthless to anyone outside from yourself.
>Like comfy tangents?
There is a chuuba for that with Fauna
>Prefer unhinged tangents?
There is a chuuba for that with Shiori
>Don't like tangents but just want CGDCT
There's a chuuba for that with FWMC.
>Don't like CGDCT, but want straightforward entertainment with karaoke
Seems like there is a chuuba for that with Elizabeth. The list goes on.
Also, it has been one day at best since their debut. You can't make an objective longterm judgement for even yourself on a chuuba from a debut stream. I started out heavily invested in ROCK-coin on debut, and then a few streams later, I sold my entire stock to then invest in BAU-coin, and I found my oshi there. Watch whatever catches your eye. Don't think, just jam.

>>78954494
Her singing is average at best.

>>78954470
She's pretty much a collab-exclusive character now.

>>78923118
>Highest sub count
>More than the new nijis combined
>"N-nobody likes her!!"
Cry more

>>78923118
>nobody likes english VAs
Well that's a retarded lie since the best dubs of any Jap game in recent times have been with a British cast who go on to revive high praise for their abilities

>>78954710
Her singing is vastly better than Enna, sister

>>78954925
>sister
Fuck off not everyone that dislike this garbage gen is a nijifag you paki dick sucker.

>New Holo gen absolutely annihilates the new Niji gen (which it was always going to but the sisters are in such a deep state of denial that they thought their new mixed gen whores stood a chance)
>Suddenly, lots of very angry posts in broken English on /vt/
Hmm, a very curious coincidence!

>>78954710
>average at best
if that's average, I'm interested to hear what you consider a great singer then

>>78955129
Shut the fuck up and eat your refried garbage, Aloupeep

>>78955278
Enna

>>78909025
Kronii and Bae are shit.
Sana is gone.
Why did you post this.

>>78955213
>Suddenly, lots of very angry posts in broken English on /vt/
thanks, I hate it

>>78908897
Even the worst EN gen would still be vastly superior to the best Niji gen, sister

>>78955443
NijiSEAs gonna NijiSEA, sadly

>>78955310
>>78955443
>>78955507
>>78955598
All me btw.

>>78908897
The gen overall is mid. But it happens to have one of the best vtubers of all time in it, namely my doll wife Cecilia

>>78955409
I don't like Niji, and I despise Enna's personality, but I would still say she is great singer. She is not nearly to the level of Elizabeth. Enna's range, pitch control, and control over her vibrato are inferior. Enna has better pronunciation though, most notably over JP. It's not that Enna bad - Elizabeth is just THAT good, like a pro among pros.

>>78955783
Classic sister cope post

>>78956258
Anon, take Riku's tiny penis out of your mouth and post this again

>>78946825
but bae is extremely talented and funny?
Her solo album had some cringe parts but overall was a "good" album by EN standards. At least she actually got it made, unlike 99% of ENwhores that make one debut song and go back to playing minecraft.

>>78958711
>but bae is extremely talented and funny?
is that a question? answer: no

>>78956139
she sure does seem the most watchable by far

>>78946825
reminder that debuts never actually represent the streamer and any opinion before monetization is trash.

>>78931720
You are looking for them at the wrong place mate. EU lolis are that way, at idol corp

>>78959329
Even Kiara admits she's the best dancer in hololive, and she puts in work. Committed to the grind. That alone puts her above every other ENwhore that leeches off genmates and streams once a month to collect their paychecks

>>78908897
>23k for a debut karaoke of the best singer of her gen.
What’s going on britcucks?

>>78957310
Why aren’t you watching her bro?I thought she would break 100k?

>>78960282
25k at 8pm UK time is great.

>>78954622
To be rational for a moment, yeah.

Now back to posting nonsense and call everyone a dumbass

>>78913111
>zoomer mass produce slobs
But enough about Gura and Biboo.

>>78908897
your daily holo vs holo
>thread

>>78954470
Considering it's about council, and someone who left, I'm gonna say Sana.

>>78960282
EU is a dead market

>>78908897
promise deflection post

>>78954747
how the fuck can you have niji but also like ERB? She is the literal niji at home, everything about er screams niji, fucking absurd

>>78955213
Shut the fuck up sister, no one gives a shit about your nijishitji,the new gen fucking sucks by holo standards , no matter of copium will change that, ERB and pink are homobegging whores, Yellow is meh and only green is alirght, It's so fucking over , stop bringing up your shitty small corpos , no one matters outside of holo in the EN spehere

>>78962493
the new gen does not deserve the holo tite nigger, they are shit, they don't magically become good once they enter holo, they have to prove themselves first, and these shits didn't

I believe Gigi can pull it out. The rest are lost causes.

I know this board just thrives on negativity and hating everything but I'm having such a great time. All of a sudden there are actual multiple hololive streams I can catch at a decent time. Thank you mr yag man.

>>78909025
Bae is the only good council member

>>78919378
Wow, fuck you.

>>78954470
>Now
Has there been any point where Mumei hasn't been lazy? All she does is spam unarchived karaoke

Fuck off unicorns

>>78972627
I'm not a unicorn, I literally just hate EN homos, I love Roberu and Arurandis

>>78913652
MLP is older than you.

>>78919378
That's funny, Sana is the only one I actually wanted to watch.

>>78908897
So sisters, have we figured out which ones might avoid males yet?

>>78975720
Saniggers need to move on already she already did

>>78909025
lol

>>78972925
If they spoke primarily in english you'd hate those two too lmao.

>>78908897
The worst of both companies united in retardedness sisters and unicorns shitting their panties

>>78908897
The worst and is not even close. Cover fucked up.

>>78972627
Lol, tourist telling the home owners to leave.
Go back to twitter.

>>78955415
Kronii was unironically fun to watch during the Sana era, but yeah I agree Bae's always been pretty bad

>>78908897
Yeah this was below ID tier I can not believe euros wanted this

>>78908897
yeah, it is

>>78908897
Cope overwhelming sis.

>>78908897
They missed out not getting beryl to play erb and pomu as cecilia. I like the pink cat still neutral on the cunny

>>78908897
Rose: 6/10. Like the voice and her singing, but needs to fuck off with giving the stars any amount of attention.
Gigi: 2/10. Boring.
Cecilia: 7/10. Cute voice and decent sense of humor.
Panthera: 8/10. Love the accent and I like her art and humor. Needs to lay off a bit on all the camera zooming.

>>78928356
She was cute, EN Towa, a shame about the orange one since she has the cutest design

>>78931969
anglocuck kys

>>78991670
based but gigi just needs to find her niche
she shouldn't be below ERB

>>78923754
>one is fucking Bae.
Holy lesboshit, which one of them is fucking Bae?

test

>>78912212
how new?

>>78991094
already plummeting from their debuts. usually that next day audience is much bigger

>>78956139
please tell me you're joking. Her model is awesome, but that fucking voice, ugh. You can't give us Violet Evergarden then give her a braying donkey Kiara-lite voice, it just doesn't go together at all

>>79003303
she's basically just german Fauna, I like her a lot.

>>78955213
it has nothing to do with the talents, only the corpo. Switch them places and Justice would get absolutely obliterated and shit on if it was a niji gen, mocked for tranny ESL voices and shit names and designs. If Denauth was a hololive gen everyone would adore them, Twisty would be the new cunny queen, everyone would cream their pants over Klara, even Ryoma would be accepted as a cool bro.

>>78908897
>Not a single one went and unfollowed the homos
Dumpster fire gen

>>78908897
Promise > Advent > Justice > Myth

Nah all 4 are fine with different target audience.
Still i'm worried about the loli, because calling yourself dumb is forced and cringe. But i know maybe is just because she was nervous at debut and needs to accommodate in her streams.
And the red woman is not that bad, the problem is the potential fanbase she could attract. As a sister-nijiloving-homoloving-sjw type she could be really popular among sister and twittertrannies, and you know, these people are really insane and only bring drama.