/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I love Michi so much.

>>78825328
you're a good bean

>>78825328
Based

Love my wolf wife

>>78825328
so true bestie

>>78825377
i want to rape your wolf wife and break her into an obedient slave

ratanASS

>>78825409
Her model would be so much better if she had a nose like this image

Michi singing soothe my souls

>>78825458
BLTs

Why Zen's tits are so huge?

>>78825496
Is that Zen Little Foot kek

>>78825409
>"Michi, do not get pregnant!"

are you guys ready for more pixel autism?
https://sinder.pxls.world/

>>78825599
Yunii turned herself into breast tissue

zenners fat fucking tits

>>78825678
can't wait for the fake drama

Moose in Zen's chat. Apparently she's camping?

>>78825678
>subathon canvas
>this much in only two days
The PPs are something else

>>78825705
>Yunii is even more racist then Goro

I love I love Michi poster, our only good ritualposter

Current VShojo 3rd party merch collabs:
https://rentry.org/VSJMerchCollabs

idk why i did this

>>78825678
>already see Neurofags in full autism mode
Yeah no, that canvas is doomed as long as those botfaggots exist.

>>78826001
Thank you for your hard work

>>78825872
i mean... She is italian.

Clippers clip something from this singing and combat section, thanks.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2178175805?t=14h53m31s
Bonus before that: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2178175805?t=14h47m59s

>>78826001
A crisp $20 bill is in your future, keep it up, maybe even a fresh backpack.

>>78826001
More than I expected, honestly.

WHERE IS THE GENERAL?

>>78826240

>>78826071
Sorry, can't include BURSTS INTO TEARS in the title.

>>78826240
You're in it.

zen/moose collab monday

>>78826240
Riding my cock

I love Mouse

>>78826240
GTAERP

>>78826001
I find it funny that Haruka of all people in VShojo has 2 dakis

>>78826477
Lang is cucking Tony and I'm tired of pretending he is not

>search kson on xitter to find pictures from her event
>phaseniggers and chumpedos sperging out about muh flesh whores
why

>>78826463
based

>>78826529
despite common misconception, she is not against lewds of herself

>>78826593
hey... engagement is engagement, thanks for being a big fan as mouse said once.

>>78826593
#組長生誕総會 tag seems fine

>>78826463
She's the best

>>78826593
Luckily I blocked 99% of them when bvtm was around, I don't see any of that when I search

>>78826593
Why are the Twitch Vtuber fans the more normal ones

>>78826981
idk if i would call them normal but they are certainly nicer

>>78826001
We should put this in the OP.

>>78826981
Twitch is not included in mobile data plans

Who is white Heavenly

>>78826981
Because they're normalfags who co-opted the Vtuber trend and weren't moulded by the formative ideologies that the industry is based on.

>>78826593
cucknet seething is typical and expected but why are gura fans involved?

>>78827123
Quinn

>>78826981
There's a good portion that were already watching streaming casually before and not people that started with vtubers.

>>78827123

>>78826574

>>78826981
I wouldn't call them normal per se but they do seem the most well-adjusted in comparison

>>78827123
Aethel

>>78827164
QWNBW

>>78826981
no vtuber fan is ever normal, but i guess is that since vtubers on twitch are more centred around indies that can do whatever and youtube is more centred around massive corpos that have restrictions on what they can say or do, it creates a different culture of fans.

>>78827164
This would imply wiggers are funny

>>78827127
So in other words they weren't poisoned by idol culture cancer

>>78826981
>the fans that don't have schizo episodes everytime their oshi replies to the opposite sex on twitter are more normal
It's truly a mystery

>>78827123
Bricky

>>78827174
Yeah, I started with Rae and discovered vtubers through a collab she did with Mouse

>>78827204
I swear you may be the only one of three people to understand this dumb bullshit and the other may be a Sykkuno sister that hates Mouse lmao

>>78826574
Nah there's no romantic chemistry with any of them.
If anything, she would go after Marty due to her preference for little boys.

>>78827127
Yeah I don't think that's it because nothing about the origins of vtubing demands that you be psychopathic

>>78827123
It's Heavenly after he fell fighting the balrog and was returned by Eru in order to finish his purpose. Thus he is now Heavenly the White.

>>78827410
It's not exactly quantum mechanics, brother.

>>78827410
I just make the webm and pull the face from a Google search, no idea who Lang is other than what their wiki says.

Holy fuck, the drama horse vtuber just released a documentary on Henya that dredges up everything she wanted to escape from her Pikamee days. Even if the video is positive the thumbnail is awful and Henya would prefer no one brought that stuff up at all.

>>78827530
>>78827570
Listen, I just want to get my funny up. And I find the Heists funny as fuck

>>78827654
Thanks for bringing it up here, I'll be sure to give it as many views as possible!

>>78827654
>digging up old drama
She's a real Vshojo now

>>78825782

>>78827324
'Idol culture' has massive issues that I think even the most delusional fans would defend but the idea that it's all bad is stupid, since it forces a level of decorum and professionalism.
Going too much the other way isn't ideal either, if you're going to abstract yourself with an anime avatar and character but do nothing to upkeep that difference then you're just a regular streamer and the entire vtuber schtick is a grift.

>>78826001
Are the Kuro cuffs room decorations? I don't see how someone would wear them around

>>78827654
W H O
H
O


C A R E S
A
R
E
S

>>78827654
>drama horse vtuber
I literally do not know who this could be, so I will assume you are that person and are advertising your video here.

>>78827654
If it wasn't Rima it'd be DN or some other retard

>>78826981
They are mostly westerners

>>78827773
You just clip one on your wrist and the other dangles. Or do both when you're bored. They'd fit loosely.

>>78827773
The description said they're stacking bracelets so I assume you just wear both on one wrist since they don't seem long enough to work as actual handcuffs.

>>78827773
idk, never seen cuffs being sold as jewelry

>>78827174
Been on twitch since 2013.

>the idea that it's all bad is stupid, since it forces a level of decorum and professionalism.

>>78825409
>draw naked woman
>draw bikini over her after
Give me the naked version

>>78827754
Even vtubers who have so sense of "character" beyond their own personality maintain the pageantry of vtubing with things like debuts and special event streams

The good parts of the idol influence will stick around forever, because they're the good parts

>>78825377

>>78827870
>don't seem long enough to work as actual handcuffs.
Well the point of handcuffs is to keep your hands close together

>>78827754
>if you're going to abstract yourself with an anime avatar and character but do nothing to upkeep that difference then you're just a regular streamer and the entire vtuber schtick is a grift.

Not even the corpos meaningfully maintain the "difference". Everyone drops kayfabe eventually. It's literally just a matter of time.

>>78828072
It usually happens within the first week

>>78828072
Unless you're FWMC, 11 months and they still haven't broken theirs

>>78828072
but she says catdad instead of dad and catschool instead of university, you simply cannot comprehend this level of kayfabe character acting, it's like anime but live

Zen vs Hime keijo battle when?

>Zen got permission from NIKKE to slut it up with one of their designs
BASED

>>78827754
>if you're going to abstract yourself with an anime avatar and character but do nothing to upkeep that difference then you're just a regular streamer and the entire vtuber schtick is a grift.
Always makes me wonder where that line is supposed to be, because it is really difficult in many cases.

>>78828192
And what kayfabe is that, exactly?
Saying bau bau? Is that really playing a character?

>>78828201
When Hime becomes a consistent streamer.

>>78828192
To be fair, how much of that is kayfabe and how much is just them doing their regular twin thing?

>turns it around into shilling hololive

>>78828386
if it's a vtuber i like then they are doing a hecking kayfabe, if not they are a western twitch whore grifter

Do you mind?

>>78828072
I never said it has to be 100% or 90% kayfabe or even keyfabe as a whole, things like how you talk about irl topics or personal issues and things of that nature.
Don't really want to shit up the thread with this topic any more but just as an example while she's basically the same person (but a lot less jaded) there's a difference between late stage Niji Mika and Michi now.

Gatekeep vtubing

>>78828718
Cali you should be my gf

Zen finally learning that Cinnamoroll is a dog, not a bunny. I assume because Cotton learned the same thing earlier

>>78828863
Big floppy ears and a swirl tail.

>>78828863
I thought it was some vague creature

My favourite moment in milf manor is mom confesses she fucked his best friend on international tv, dude gets depressed and just stays in the pool the entire night.

https://x.com/MichiMochievee/status/1804569144635105340 Michi is back on the game lets fucking go

>>78828975
She's a necrophiliac

>>78828863
Zen is lucky Satan is asleep right now

>>78829024
Kuro is undead ain't he

>>78828863
lol

>>78827754
Idol culture means that
>No ownership of IP
>No interaction with opposite gender
>Fans sperging out whenever the streamers take on a new fanbase
>Weird ass dono
>Schizo level of fan obsession
No thanks

>>78829095
no he's the "god of undead miracles", and michi is a bunch of reanimated bodyparts, with could be seen as some form of undead miracle.
So Kuro is the god of Michi.

>>78828718
Too late for that lol

>>78828392
I don't watch them but iirc some holofans would complain that everytime a genmate would try small talk with them like asking what classes they took in school they'd respond like "whats school bau bau we're just demon doggos"

man i just found out about idol culture :( that shit straight up jorks :(

>>78826593
Search for pics using the correct hashtag, you fucking moron.

>>78829195
I'm just having a laugh. Anyways I just remembered what Kuro's next cover should be.

>>78829095
I just remembered Michi Is made up of dead people but was reanimated. Zombies are dead but still all the same body parts they had when they were alive just the body is decaying.

>>78829288
or you people could just behave like human beings for one day

>>78829370
>>78829308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4

>>78829405
Why are you blaming me? I'm literally helping you avoid morons on twitter.

>>78829168
Quite the reductive stance but I'm not going to argue with you, because you unironically typed that without thinking 'do these happen with non-corpo/non-idol vtubers' and hit submit.

bun bun cha

>>78828674
Meh. The individual difference from streamer to streamer is bigger than the difference between an individual streamer going from corpo to indie. At best, you just get a thin layer of inhibition for the corpos, but that doesn't stop a lot of them from getting personal.

When you say its long...

>>78827754
disagree and maybe it's due to personal perspective, but I see vtubing primarily as a safe way for women to stream where they couldn't before, or were only able to do voice without a visual representation of themselves. even women who are conventionally attractive enough to not be harassed off the platform for being ugly still have to deal with constant sexual comments about their real bodies, comments made about vtuber bodies are way more removed from reality and are easier to ignore (or lean in to for some vtubers) without any actual consequences. that's not even getting into deepfake shit that's now everywhere, it makes total sense to protect your face for reasons beside doxxing
if you could choose whatever appearance you wanted to while you entertain people online, why would you not want to do that? why is that considered a grift? grifts generally imply that people are lying to get coin but what lying is involved here?

>>78828863
No one tell mouse when she wakes up or else this might be the end of zen

>>78829168
Wrong on so many levels
1 they are a company and the talents audition and get given a model to use to start their activities in the company.

2 there are Holo members who have interacted with holostars on multiple occasions.

3 idk what you mean by taking on new fan base like different from pl or they want to go in a new direction

4 every streamer besides vtubers get dumb or weird donos as long as they don't go to their house everything should be fine or block their account so they can't send money anymore

5 there are schizo level obsessions in every fan base and these people already had mental illness before getting into hobby and don't make the majority of vtuber fans

>>78827754
>'Idol culture' has massive issues that I think even the most delusional fans would defend
That's putting it mildly.

>>78829430
Thanks for the song momo (´_ゝ`)

>>78827754
>Going too much the other way isn't ideal either, if you're going to abstract yourself with an anime avatar and character but do nothing to upkeep that difference then you're just a regular streamer and the entire vtuber schtick is a grift.
I sincerely hope you get a urinary tract infection.

Bruh, i'm so tired of Elden Ring. I hope Mata will stream today.

https://x.com/cottonNoirVT/status/1804569480657338705

>>78829882
SEXOOO

>>78829804
I've been on Justintv since 2010 and watching vtubers probably longer than you, feel free to share your view Anon.

>>78826593
and then you have this whole board having a melty about the new british hag in hololive because she had drawings of holostars in her debut stream and interacts with them on twitter.
I just want to talk about her amazing singing and shit taste in games and I can't even do that.

>>78829502
nta but the difference is that an indie can tell anyone being a freak to fuck off, idols have to smile and bear it if their company doesn't want to alienate those people even if the individual does. also while unicorns do exist for indies it's not nearly as rampant as it is for holo, I wasn't using this board last holo gen debut so I wasn't aware how bad it was but the way men here respond to a man and woman in the same company tweeting the most normal shit is true lunacy

>>78829168
NTA but it doesn't mean this, these are just consequences of it that have evolved (devolved) over time and now basically plague it. In short, idolfags ruined their own thing to such a degree that nobody other than someone in it thinks it is anything but psychopathy.

>>78829024
So that's why she likes Ollie so much.

I'm tired of these guy who just say idol culture for everything and don't understand. I'm not even expert but it doesn't have to do with vtubing really. Unless you are a idol Vtuber, just don't watch holo if you are gonna complain how they run stuff without watching shit. Not only that tired of people who don't understand vtubing

I'm being sincere when I say I could see WiltedRose being a future Phase Invader. Please hurry up and get a model, and your own general.

>>78829923
No thanks, you used the word "grift" which pretty much rendered you a fucking imbecile. A less snarky answer: if your stance is "what I want = legit; what they do = grift" then you can die in a fire somewhere. Vtubing isn't what you want it to be and it never was and never will be.

>>78830082
Probably but from seeing stuff of Ollie her and Michi are on the same wave length

>>78830308
Indos man

>>78830202
Ah so you're just upset and want to get the anger of your system by nitpicking sematics, fair enough.

not to be a number monkey is it just me or is this week a bit dead in numbers maybe cos ER DLC ??!

>>78829430
Kuro would actually like this

>>78830127
i think its time to realize that vtubing is an another avenue for streaming and that there are really no true way to properly be a vtuber. As long as you use a vtuber model you are one the majority of the time and it doesn't matter what the content is. Vtubers fall under streamers/content creators and aren't their own distinct thing anymore and that's fine

https://www.nihongomaster.com/blog/what-is-japanese-idol-culture
Read

HAACHAMACHAMA

>>78830351
Now eat a dick.

>>78830384
I woudn't know. Todays Mouse and Michi ER straems were great

>>78829732
>there are schizo level obsessions in every fan base
Didn't Kuro, Matara, and Michi have to deal with batshit insane fans back in Nijisanji? I know both Michi and Matara have commented on how insanely nice and laid back their fans are now. Even though crazy fans always exist, you have to admit that some fanbases seem to attract way more of them than others.

>>78830456
Cali we should play video games together you'll feel better

>>78829195
Jared is responsible for creating the Frankenstein monster that is Mochi, not Kuro. But Jared and Kuro have some similarities, maybe him showing up in Kuro's lore bid wasn't just easter egg..

>>78829732
1 Jp idol company literally control your daily life and unfortunately, that element got into Vtubing. But guess what? It is not normal. Singers and actors in the west has fought for a long time to keep control of their IP.
2 Yes and they face backlash from the fanbase for doing that. A glimpse into twitter/catalog will give you a rough idea
3 New direction. See what happened to Mori and Ollie the moment they dared to expand their fanbase to the TT
4 Have you seen the schizo donos when Mori used to collab with Trash taste?
5 I dont see the same level of obsession in other streamers. A glimpse into twitter/catalog/reddit will give you a rough idea

>>78830448
Vtuber were originally just youtubers then streaming happened later. Vtubing is different from normal streamers.

>>78828674
don't really think it's shitting up the thread.
it's an interesting topic and not something that can really be discussed in the broader /vt/ asylum because some just throw poop instead.

>>78830602
Yeah now they have an insane hatebase for being in Vshojo

>>78829217
That would be really frustrating

'Course, that's literally the most basic possibly kayfabe.
Their characters are from a fictional world, so making it public that they live in Japan is already breaking kayfabe. What's the lore reason for them streaming and playing video games? Aren't they supposed to be dangerous criminals on the lam?

Straight-up, the modern vtubing landscape doesn't ALLOW for kayfabe, because the commonly-understood behavior of vtubers don't mesh with 90% of character narratives.

I concede you win

>>78830680
No it isn't. The "origins" of vtubing do not dictate what vtubing is for all time and I am sick of this retarded argument.

>>78830602
All of them can be traced back to Kuro and in particular a certain subset of the demographic.

DJ RedAlice going all out on the hololive songs is pretty funny.

>>78825377

>>78830463
I can't watch right now, what happened? Did haachama send a video again?

Talent Freedom.

>>78830763
There are origins for a reason without them then all the stuff that you see now wouldn't have happened. You are the type to forget the roots of something

>>78830846
redalice played his haachama song
he also played pekorap earlier and pekomiko daisensou right now

>>78830681
You clearly don't understand what this is. We have some people in here who are also Holotards, which is fine, everybody watches or is aware of Holos here, but once in a while one of them will just go whole hog unprompted pro-JP corpo autism bullshit just to rile people up. We have unironic Cover/AnyColor corpo bootlickers in here, which fascinates and disgusts me.

>>78830692
Not really, you guys exaggerate that stuff. There is general anti-VShojo sentiment but very little harassment.

>>78828386
that line is simple. It has nothing to do with idol culture or even immersion breaking. I'll personally always defend vtubing from grifters because it is simply a niche of a niche of a niche. It easily falls prey to ambitious content creators who will not hesitate to use this medium as a stepping stone. It's not the end of the world but sure it's annoying when there's too many.

>>78830680
It still falls under the main branch of streaming/youtube content creation. It's just another sub genre. An art streamer vs a strategy game streamer have very different content but both are still streaming at the end of the day

>>78830884
Is wrong. They all need to be reigned in and managed better.

>>78830351
All idolfags are mentally ill. It is such a shame that because the JP vtuber blew up first, retarded idol elements in JP got accepted as facts/culture in the En scene. But gladly the EN scene is getting large enough to divorce from those retarded BS.

>>78830896
So, by that logic there is, was, and always will be only one vtuber: Kizuna Ai. She coined the phrase and defined it, ergo nobody else can ever be a vtuber.

>>78830947
That's not the same since you could be both art and strategy these are just categories you fall under for the type of content you want to stream

What Idoltards see when a female Vtuber has a brother

rodent's kingdom works pretty well dropped in a club

>>78830700
Mouse and Melody actually have an in lore explanation for why they stream, so it's definitely possible.

>>78830763
The argument is not that it should be like that 'for all time', vtubing in the grand scheme of things just came into existence and different niches within it are emerging organically.
Denying the history and culture that created it in the first place is utterly fucking retarded on every level and just reeks of "I hate it so it's wrong and bad and evil", especially when the biggest market and the biggest players in vtubing is HoloJP - idol-centric,

/in/

>>78831001
You are such a mid-wit it's not even funny.

>>78830973
Where is it accepted outside of Hololive and some small corpos?

>>78830896
So does that mean if you don't follow the strict origins of vtubing as you put it then you aren't a vtuber? Mouse is like on the first 50 vtubers basically and doesn't do most of the idol stuff.

>>78830924
The Twitch filter just works.

I personally think vtubing strayed too far form Annoying Orange, the true origins of vtubing. Anyhting removed from this is a grift.

vtubing = making video content with an avatar

That's about it

>>78830651
Japanese company different from English one. It doesn't mean everything they do is good but at the end of the day the company is looking for a way to make more money. Just don't become corpo there's always a choice

>>78830924
Now who's arguing semantics.

>>78830924
Cause they physically cannot

>>78831171
very happy for him, shia is a real laugh with a unique voice. he needs to do more singing

grawr gooba invented vtubering and IMkekgrift copied her

>>78831139
Nothing about what the anon said is denying the history and culture of vtubing. This is the classic traditional vs modern argument where traditionalists want to stop progress because it doesn't adhere to the old way of doing things even if the new way is just better.

>>78831207
Basically. Also most of the harassment comes from schizo fans rather than dedicated antis.

>>78831138
And they're some of the few whose lore excuses are actually well-considered, many who bother (most don't) come down to a hackneyed, forced "reason" that begs an enormous amount of suspension of disbelief

But even with Mouse and Mel, in none of their official lore projects have they actually BEEN streamers. There's a clear distinction between the Mouse or Melody on-stream, and the one that exists in their lore.

>>78830680
Vtubers are just normal streamers with vtuber avatars.

>>78831246
Yep with the caveat i think of using the avatar for a good chunk of your content. Using it once or twice wouldn't apply imo (like we wouldn't call soda or pokimane a vtuber but aethel is def one even though he does a lot of non vtuber content)

>>78831187
Kizuna ai wasn't an idol in the sense of music. Even then there were people besides her at that time when vtubing was starting. I literally said idol culture is different from being a Vtuber.

>>78831171
It might shock you but Haruka already is in vshojo.

>>78831177
What? You now admitting that evolution happens and that evolution breaks with "root" characteristics? I'm fine with that.

I love Sushidogu

>>78831183
And what is the current largest vtuber company? Which company started the whole "graduation", "CGDCT" culture that dominated the scene until 2022?

>>78831314
>But even with Mouse and Mel, in none of their official lore projects have they actually BEEN streamers
Are you sure about this? Hasn't there been multiple mouse lore videos where she is streaming or has a streaming setup in it? iirc one aspect of her lore is that she draws energy from audience isn't it

>>78831417
Best post in the last hour

>>78831356
Fair distinction

Vshojo?

>>78830700
>the modern vtubing landscape doesn't ALLOW for kayfabe
imo it just doesn't work because of the quantity of content they are expected to produce. back when it was a few pre-recorded videos a month it worked as you could freely edit and script however you want, but as the quantity demand increased and the form switched to livestreams it just seems impossible to maintain

>>78831253
I'm not. People actually send nasty shit to holomems, directly @ing and DMing them on Twitter, clipping every "yab" and spamming it to destroy their reputation, send hate superchats, etc. To find anyone hating on VShojo you basically have to dig for it. The one exception is Mouse, who gets actual harassment from Kai Cenat fans.

>>78831171
I was watching some random Buff YT video last night and all I remember is her saying, "Get yourself a peggable man"

>>78831177
>mid-wit
It's a single word, midwit.

>>78831300
Pointing out the ideological shift and focus on a flavour of streaming closer to established 'normal' streaming as opposed to sticking to the roots of vtubing is not "stopping progress" - it's simply pointing out that it's not true to where the industry came from.
That is not a value judgement, it's an observation.

>>78831436
Oh boy, this argument.

>>78831246
this. all gatekeeping does is prevent vtubing from being normalized like any other interest and it's futile. it happened to games, it happened to comics, it happened to anime, and it's not a bad thing

>>78831342
Not really since they don't do kayfabe all the time even though yes normal streamers do exaggerate their personality at times for entertainment.

did someone link the thread on the bvtm discord or why is there like 3 chimps at the same time?

>>78831488

Zen needs to go get more scat tree fragments or whatever

>>78831555
Apologies for trying to have a civil discussion because some of us disagree and it's impossible to make an actual catalog thread about it on this shithole of a board.

Zen needs to plagiarize mel and do a cb stream

>>78831511
I see your point

Man I'm so sorry for triggering this.
>>78830681
Spoke to soon, lol.

>>78831542
Gatekeeping is fine people who don't even care about this stuff join in for their own gain rather than passion. It's a tiring cycle. I'd be fine with stuff not becoming mainstream if weirdos who only see a dollar sign and disrespect the work get involved

>>78831543
kayfabe is not a required component of being a vtuber

>>78831543
>Not really since they don't do kayfabe all the time
So is Vei not a vtuber?

>>78831436
"Graduation" is an IP ownership thing, it started with Niji. "CGDCT" (i.e. unicorns) don't exist outside of Hololive and GFE vtubers like fallenshadow.

>>78830844

>>78831503
You're right, NONE of that shit happens to any VShojo ever.

Except Mouse.
And Froot
And Zen
And Kson
And Mel
And Henya
And Haruka
And GEEGA
And the ex-Nijis
And exes like Nyan, Vei, Silver, and Nazuna

Y'know what? I don't know if Hime gets a lot of it, so you got me!

>>78831715
It is because vtubing requires a character.

>>78831555
it's called a conversation and I enjoy being able to have one here

>>78831628
you can have your "civil discussion" with like-minded monkeys in /#/

>>78831715
Ok but it helps the model and theme come to life better. That's why people do it

>>78830930
you didn't explain where the line is except for "people I think are grifters".
I think we can both agree that there are clear cut examples like AdmiralBahroo, Bunny or Pokimane, but what about - for example - Bao, Vei or Giri? What's your position here?

it's a neat setup

>>78831249
Yes. And I am calling out the Jp retardation that unfortunately got carried over to the EN scene. Yes, companies do need to make money but there is a thin line between making money and being exploitative.

>>78831762
bruh no one here is numbering right now what are you on about

If you want to early access the swimwear then sign up https://twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1804581095708758195

>>78831723
You don't want me to answer this question and I watched some of veibae before

>>78831857
go back

>>78831503
Bitch are you for real

>>78831725
CGDCT is an anime thing which migrated from /a/ when /jp/fags were kicked out for being annoying cringe faggots. Guess which of those two boards ended up most heavily getting into vtubers.

>>78831463
Maybe there's been a PC somewhere but neither of them have been shown actually streaming, and VShojo in-lore is treated more like a traditional idol company

>>78831794
It's important to note the distinction between what is better and what is required. Plenty of good vtubers don't do kayfabe and it doesn't hurt them

why didn't nazuna just message henya on her proper account...

>>78831750
Hime, my beautiful queen, is pure and not even the cruelest of antis can find fault.

>>78831804
Grifter is pretty much a meaningless word. Do we call variety streamers as grifters because they only play FOTM and do not stick to a game?

>>78831754
And normal streamers don't have characters? Or do you believe these people act just like this when the camera is off?

>>78831942
they are both retarded please understand

I win

>>78831503
So i take it you missed the daily shitting on mouse threads that pop up on the catalog or froot's treatment by phasefags and on twitter or zen is a man comments constantly

any news with nazuna? or is she still mentally ill?

Reminder that vtubers aren't idols. That's something hololive came up with after their nijisanji clones weren't doing well and they needed a gimmick to differentiate them.

>>78831874
Guys... Vei is no longer a vtuber because WiltedRose said so... It's over... Someone tell the Virtual YouTuber Wiki to remove her.

>>78832058
She's IRLposting on TikTok now and her tits are huge

>>78831916
VShojo "in-lore" is more like the Avengers.

>>78830602
Fans back then some were mad about fujo stuff or seeing Mata or Michi in streams since they thought they were taking advantage of the boys fame. Kuro used to do fujo and other stuff back then he couldn't handle dealing with drama or people bothering his friends. There were things back then that were kuros fault to and that's why I never fully blamed both sides. What I believed was stop doing fanservice and fujo stuff if it bothers you

>>78831993
Why wouldn't that also be a form of kayfabe? They're not separating their appearance/name/etc from themselves so it's to a significantly lesser degree, but what's your point? It's all part of the showmanship.

Holy based RedAlice.

>>78832058
Has she ever not been mentally ill?

>>78831874

>>78831698
I still think it's a good discussion all around. Outside of Rose being dumb again

>>78830602
The twitch filter is real and it works. Youtube Vtuber only watchers are more likely to be retarded

>>78832101
I said this already ._. Only holo takes some ideas but they aren't real idols

>>78832167
My point is that "kayfabe" insofar as having a character is not unique to vtubing and is just another example that vtubing is just regular streaming with an avatar.

>>78832107
But can the cats speak polish yet?

>>78832058
she's been streaming as Mike
Shes actually live right now on twitcasting

>>78832232
Yeah I'm dumb when I was watching vtubing stuff for awhile but ok and that we don't have the same opinions

You faggots watch Japanese corpo owned Vtubers?

>>78832275
Yes. But they take the most retarded ideas of that and some got carried over to the En scene

>>78832275
What makes someone a "real" idol then? And I only ask because I think at least some of the Hololive talents fancy themselves as idols and Hololive certainly isn't shy about declaring them as such.

>>78832232
same, I enjoying hearing what anons here think on a specific topic and it's a relief to see real conversation instead of tantrums. it can never last forever but it's fun while it's going on
thank you to everyone who gave genuine replies and shared their thoughts

>>78831874
Kuro isn't a vtuber by your definition. He completely ignores his lore, does IRL streams, and even says his first name on stream and shows YouTube videos he made as a kid. Technically he would be even less of a vtuber than Vei.

Reminder that Cali is literally medicated and mentally retarded. All opinions espoused by her should be disregarded and treated the same as ramblings of the local crackhead on their latest bender.

>>78832396
Not since 2021

>>78832396
nope I don't even watch Kson because I don't know hieroglyphics and YT streaming chat fucking sucks

>>78832396
Once in a while, yes, but it isn't my main focus.

>>78832434
I won't argue with the rest of it but gonna point out being medicated is better than not

>>78832396
worse, i watch pubg streamers

>>78832297
Okay now we're really splitting hairs so we should agree to disagree and cull this here, but I think there is a very clear, obvious, glaring difference between playing up parts of your personality for the show because audiences want entertainment and manufacturing an entire identity, appearance, and brand and then doing nothing to set it apart from you as the one controlling it.
It's about the necessity of abstraction and abusing it to 'be yourself' when the entire point IS the character.

>>78832405
I guess I shouldn't say not real idol.

>>78832418
Yeah but wait until some faggot links this thread into one of the heavy holodrone or /#/s threads and then it'll just be a deluge in faggotry.

>>78832551

>>78832264
for example just look at the comments here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2fnXXVQJGc
screenshot is from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHi1-aRhGI

>>78832598
you're giving people ideas

>>78832434
I'm medicated too though

>>78832580
Vtubing is just streamer with avatar. No more, no less

>>78832532
I said medicated, not consistently taking her medication. Multiple times she has stated she goes off her meds on a whim.

>>78832652
It is inevitable whether I say it or not. Might have already happened.

>>78832396
Only JPs

>>78832483
I was watching mint's stream last night while she and doki were doing hospital 666, my first time watching a yt stream for more than a half hour and just... what the fuck? eventually it just started stuttering even when I brought it down to 480p, meanwhile I had mouse at 720p no issue (yes I paused her to check if the connection couldn't do both)
if yt stream watchers want to defend it in other ways then fine but there's something objectively wrong with the tech

>>78832429
When he said he was gonna do more irl content I wasn't really on board because I watch because they are a Vtuber. I don't agree with all the stuff kuro does but okie dokie

>>78832264
Twitch isn't in the data plan.

>>78832396
I might if they streamed on Twitch

Cali post tiddies please

>>78832396
Yea, I think Fauna is a pretty good streamer

>>78832617
SEA Nigs
Also isn't her number almost double as what she used to get lol

>>78832734
So Kuro isn't a vtuber right?

>>78832677
ah I didn't know... yeah she's dumb af even just for that

>>78832732
/mint/

>>78832396
I watch the VSPO playing League on Twitch. Yes LoL is the meta in Jp now and yes Jp corpos do stream on twitch

>>78832732
The only good thing about YT streaming is the instant rewind feature
but Most chubas are retarded and disable that feature

>>78832823
+

>>78832434
>Reminder that Cali is literally medicated and mentally retarded
You just described majority of posters ITT

>>78832580
It isn't "splitting hairs" it is a core issue of this debate. You think a character is necessary, I don't. Almost every vtuber I watch is just themselves with an added layer of anonymity and comfort. It is HARDER to find someone who is just a character and nothing else.

Vshoujokeks are so tribal...

>>78832677
Yeah my medication is for depression and anxiety. Your an ass for trying to be disrespectful for me saying my own opinion and passing it off as a crazy person. You want to have a civil discussion bit can't even give the other person respect

>>78832848
There's a userscript to force it on if you want

I told you

>>78832844
Horrible.

>>78832732
If your browser shows the memory usage of a given tab, keep an eye on it next time you watch a YT stream

It's completely retarded

>>78832732
You have to use that YTBetter script to watch Youtube nowadays, it stops stream from catching up and buffering.

>>78832823
>my first time watching a yt stream for more than a half hour
>>78832848
true and I don't understand why they do that? it just makes it inconvenient for anyone who comes in late, at least on twitch if you're late you can go to the vod page and watch on 1.5x until you catch up with the live but on yt if they disable it you have to wait for the whole thing to end

>>78832782
At this point idk what he is. We didn't even have a rl stream again for awhile anyways

>>78832871
I will continue to do so every time you post something retarded.

>>78832918
I don't know why people try to gatekeep. It is always a losing gambit.

>>78832871
Kek

>>78832976
Cali do you want to play chess with me

Mouse living rent free in the catalog again.

This mogra set's gone pretty hard

Some catalogfag finally made a bait thread about Mouse's marathon >>78829949

>>78833018
Must be a day ending in y

>>78832975
>mint stream
/mint/

>>78833035
NPYA

I do not care what the catalog does. Don't bring that shit here.

>>78832950
It is like watching forsen league. I need my daily dose of bad lol gameplay kek

>>78832434
You can screw off your opinions are no better than anyone else's. Someone doesn't agree with you they are highly medicated and not of sound mind

>>78833081
+

>>78833081
she is a plus, hall monitor sama

>>78833035
Tongue my black asshole and maybe I'll say something

lmao no way they played this

>>78833142
>>78833147
/mint/

>>78832975
they have it like that so people can't rewind in case of a slip up or something and then they can have the vod edited before it even gets posted.

>>78833035
>>78833018
When aren't they lol

>>78833199
+

>>78832987
The reality is gatekeep happens in every day life all the time and it's necessary. The disability support group gatekeeps, women only gyms gatekeep, employers gatekeep who they will employ, literal countries gatekeep who they let in kek. These are all perfectly fine the issue is excessive and unhealthy gatekeeping (a good example of this is that women aren't gamers because they aren't as good at high skill games)

>>78833140
>highly medicated and not of sound mind
I can safely say, given your post history, that this applies directly to you.

>>78832981
Yeah because you are the God of this thread and not some rando weirdo who focuses on one individual because he can't have control in his own life

>>78833187
played what?

>>78833275
Have you ever gone back and rewatched Mysta vods?

>>78833081
Why does the Mintsperg only target Mint and not the other pluses? What did Mint do to him?

>>78833199
Don't forget to check out her stream in 15 minutes, she is playing Metal Gear Solid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7inNrLv8DcA

>>78833275
Back on your meds, girl

I remember there was an anon that could make a timelapse of her sleeping.
Can someone make one this time?
I love this model, and this is too cute to let it pass.

>>78833289
the original of this, at kson's afterparty (?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh9BlCjshUU

>>78833337
>>78833340
/mint/

>>78825377
i dont remember posting this but yes, i do with all my soul.

>>78831870
Wow that almost looks like a 1:1 of Mel's outfit. That's pretty cool.

>>78833289
https://www.twitch.tv/mogra

>>78833388
+

78833366
least obvious tourist

>>78833326
I critizied him back then to? So why do I need to re-watch vods for there was a time when I took a break from watching him

>>78833449
meant for
>>78833366

>>78833451
Now make ai porn of them

Kuro please stream save the autistic woman

I'm just gonna leave since people will bring up retarded points about not being on meds to take make their views valid. Being depressed sucks and it's not something I would wish on anyone

>>78833556
>he thinks that would save her

>>78833578
It's okay we still love you *chuu*

>>78833556
Kuro please fuck Cali just one time.

>>78833578
You'll be back before the day is over.

Zen did it

>>78833578
It is okay we all love woman here

>>78833556
save the day maybe
but ruin her life

>>78833556
Kuro should engage in an intense debate with Rose about how he's actually a vtuber.

>>78833451
Damn, Mint is not fucking around

>>78833702
that would go hard

>>78833578
Like 60% of the girls are the same. Don't let the retards here get you worked up.

>>78833578
>I'm just gonna leave
You say this every-time, but sadly you never follow through

>>78833808
Do we have Rose goslings now?

>>78833881
Rose's biggest sperg is a gosling

>>78833881
Now?
I've been here for months

>>78833578
People shouldn't be using your meds to invalidate your argument. Your arguments were clearly incorrect though

>>78833881
>now
The second it was revealed that Rose/Cali was a woman, anons were clamoring over each other for even a whiff of her Californian pussy

>>78833684
Love that this dumbass npc became a meme

>>78833881
Careful. We all love Rose here

>We

>>78833881
She's grown on me.

>>78833881
IDK Anon and Rose give off sibling vibes

>>78834116
You might want to get that checked out before the rot sets in.

>>78834181
She's never going to fuck you, sperg.

>>78834123
Momo... no... the incest...

My Ironmouse Gloomybear came in. Half gallons of milk are $1.29 at Kroger

Today is a good day.

>>78834250
Your projection is pathetic.

>>78834327
>$1.29 for a half gal
What the fuck I fucking hate you lactose tolerant niggas

sonch

new thread
>>78834498
>>78834498
>>78834498

>>78834123
I like momo ;_; and froot poster

Unpopular opinion
I think content not meant to be lewd shouldn't be labeled as such
but
I think the way Mata says zoomer meme words, sounds like a hip mom trying to connect with her kids.
AND THAT REALLY GETS ME GOING
I would like for a stream when she says those words a lot, and I'm sure it could be good wholesome content or whatever, but I would enjoy it far more than most in a not wholesome way.

>>78834518
Weren't you leaving?

>>78834518
I love YOU

>>78833388
m/IN/t

FIFY and hopefully official july 4th

>>78834518
It okay.

>>78833451
>notices badge on genius
i haven not forgotten either comrade.

I love Michi so much it's unreal.