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>>78799125the second and third option are mostly pushed by shitposters who think they are being hilarious, same deal as >>78798469, with a sprinkling of genuine nijiniggers trying to spin a win out of this
Female Vox?
>actual sister got in ENdo you guys consider bae as a sisters?
How did Advent do it? A perfect generation.
>>78799125Gigi just seems like a waste of a slot. What the fuck is she going to do? Biboo already does gaming, Bae does the stupid voice better, Ame is la Creatividad, Fauna already handles the same timeslot, and Gura is the dumbass who can't do math. She's a wasted slot because she brings nothing to the table.
Why are homobeggars more interested in trying to mass convert the holo unicorn audience to their homos rather than trying to get new audiences like twitch/niji cucks to watch them?
>>78799250I was too harsh on you ladies
yo korone had an announcement in this stream what was it? was it that she was doing debut watchalongs for EN?
>>78799250>>78799260ADVENT PROMISE LOVE
>>78799250>>78799221is she retarded? why would she tweet that on main?
>>78799250MURIN
>>78799250we didn't know how good we had it with Advent until Justice came
>>78799296There's a difference between homobeggar and starmin. You can see from her behavior which's which.
>>78799296Bae is a genuine homofan who only cares about the JP fags. She couldn't give less of a shit about the EN side
>>78799318The twitch audience finds the homos annoying and/or not entertaining.
>>78799315Ame doesn't stream.
>>78799315>Ame is la CreatividadAme is fucking dead
>>78798116You only change the formula and seek a new audience when business isn't thriving as much as it used to, homoshit has never been successful and has only had negative effects on Hololive. Retard.
>>78799324tree merch I think
>>78799332Because she doesn't give a fuck. What's the worst management will do? It was based of her to call Eileen out like that
>>78799315This but Elizabeth
>>78799324Merch
>>78799296Bae actually cares about hololive and being and idolshe may be bad but not as bad as red whore
>>78799125you have to understand that first impression is extremely crucial. In this case, majority of people's first imrpession towads this justice branch is ERB being a typical homobeggar sister that ignores every pain that Hololive has to went through to get to this point. No matter how good Gigi is, the impression toward the branch is already negative at that point.
>>78799332No woman is immune from having woman moments
Advent love
I just fucking realized that Elizabeth the supposed SJW activist tumblrite has to also deal with the fact that Advent has the two confirmed religious members whose families have Mormons and fucking Free Masons.https://youtu.be/7KpRoZhoOmU?si=DhbCMqYP8DeH7m5U
>>78799324You mean the Tree kun merch?https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/inugamikorone_treekungoods
>>78799332She's an autistic woman
>>78799296>do you guys consider bae as a sisters?As much as I don't like Bae, she seems to be genuine stars fan, and she knows not to bring them on collab streams. (with the exception of that collab with Fauna).ERB will most likely mention stars at their gen collabs, probably at En collabs as well
>>78799382did you forget how much numbers mixed gender collabs get? Elizabeth will beat FWMC to 1 million on the backs of a bunch of pseudo-activist voyeur weirdos if she makes bois collabs her bread & butter. this will cause a ripple effect and the fencesitters will come over to her way of thinking
>>78799296People freaking out about Elizabeth forget that what made 2022 so catastrophic was that literally HALF of the active EN talents were collabing with males. That just isn't the case anymore nor will it ever be again. There are simply too many CGDCT ENs now, and the ones that still support the males simply don't have enough influence to do anything. Vesper and Magni pissing Mori off was honestly the final nail in the coffin for Tempus. Kronii is simply too apathetic to deal with backlash anymore, Ame for all intents and purposes is soft retired, and Bae really only gives a fuck about JP stars at the end of the day. So what are people afraid of? Elizabeth will be on her crusade alone.
>>78799354
all you retards who were saying that elden ring was going to be some kind of giga buff need to turn in your balls and numberfagging lisence
>>78799413
How would you feel if ERB ask who their favourite holostar in justice collab?
>>78799375>Ame is la muerta
>>78799296I don't think she is even close to Bae in the way of handling things well.
>>78799318because the goal is not to make homostar popular. Their goal is to destroy hololive.
Ok but which Tempus / armis that has a lot of gachis? Do they also hate it if their homo collab with the girls?
Okay, ERB is definitely a homobeggar rather than a homofan, but do you think there's any hope that she grows out of it like the homobeggars in EN eventually did?
>>78799318Because it was never about helping Homos grow
>>78799332there's a reason she deleted it anon
>>78799414>Cover now has connection to the Yakuza, the Indonesian media cabal, the korean mafia, and the freemasons
>>78799400>being and idol>does VCR shit
>>78799315Give her a minute, sheesh. You haven't even seen her content yet, none of us have. HoloEN has plenty of room for new girls. We need more event and collab organizers, for one. And HoloEN fans love random creative non-game streams, like Mumei used to do her rants and shit, that was popular and unique.
>>78799449I'm more interested in their reaction.
>>78799423> constant beggar Rex interactions100% gonna happen
>>78799445Tourists are spread too thin.
>>78799474that or she crashes and burns like ollie and never learns
>>78799482She shouldn't have made it in the first place. It's unprofessional.
I think someone is owed an apolocheese by people in this thread
Isn't this kinda bad for NijiEN?It's like HoloEN is rubbing salt on their wound by just looking at the support when a new group debuts in Hololive. 100+k viewers on the debutant channel, 35k+ viewers on a watch-a-long. Even Korone got like 20k+ viewers and she's primarily JP.Doesn't help that the two last Justice girls are somewhat popular in the indie circles.That's kinda fucked up to see. I honestly don't know how NijiEN will bounce back at all.
My neurons are fired up.>COVER has a global expansion ambition>that means you have to get as many people to consoom your products as possible>and you have to gain as many loyal Holofans as possible>and you already have the potential to gain both male and female audience>that means more reason to do a hard segregation between Hololive and Holostars to focus on each of their target audience
>>78799474She's a hag in her mid-30s. She's too old to change her ways
>>78799449>Oh? My favorite star in hololive?
>>78799332>is she retarded? why would she tweet that on main?If you don't know about her past, this tweet seems like some kayfabe posting aboiut personal problems. And I think most of her viewers don't know who she was before Hololive - it's not like she's Mori, Kiara or Ina
>>78799474She'll be the oily of EN4
>>78799457RUNESCAPE WHEN WOMAN!?
>>78799473Bettel, Shinri, Altare, don't know about the rest
>>78799423If she does that I can definitely see most of the girls just stonewalling collabs with her
I'm convinced that the new "image vs user" trend on twitter is a psyop to trick retards into exposing themselves
>>78799537don't worryERB will destroy hololive from the inside
>>78799414Forget that she has to deal with SNOT's antics
>>78799529My grudge for that birthday thing is going to be awhile
>>78799250
>>78799296I don't like Bae because she's pro-homo but like others said, it's trueblood fan vs literal beggar. Bae loves the homos (eugh), ERB loves owning the homo haters.
>>78799474>grows out of it like the homobeggars in EN eventually did?But they never did. They just turned straight into Holoantis
>>78799494Once a runt, always a runt. Bae and Shiori do a ton of creative streams all the time like the Vegemite Challenge and Unity game, but that has done nothing to change everyone's perception of them. They still get the worst numbers in EN by far and Gigi will just have to cope when she joins them down there
>>78799550no no noi mean holostar the other branch of hololive
>>78799474Bae is a homofanERB is a homobeggerhomobeggars never stop, never learn, would rather destroy and burn everything around them, they are activists with an agenda
>>78799440majority of the fanbase are tired ojiisans who just wanted to be left alone. ERB brought back the old scar that most of the fans don't want to experience ever again. That's why people are pissed.
>>78799436Yeah like Bae amr?Ollie and Kobo didn't get over a million from Homo collabs those two got that high because they kept associating with big ass ecelebs.
>>78799528Meh, it was a vaguepost quickly moved on from.
>>78799473Lets said that she have something in common with AZKI
>>78799267Second opinion could be a matter of preference and here is something which is often understated, with a preface>The GREATEST strength of Hololive is the shared audience and the interpersonal relationship between the girls Wanna know why people refrain, even in this retarded thread, for the most part, from expressing discontent about this or that Holo girl?>because they’re “in the box” and friends with their oshi who likes them and vouches for them Wanna know why that second opinion>yeah, ERB and Gigi were not great but maybe day 2 would be betterwas thrown much more casually this time that it would be otherwise?Because with ERB positioning herself explicitly “outside the Holo box” so far there was no reason to “circle the wagons” and “protect ALL girls” and people will just naturally go from caring about the box>which this times seems not to exist for ERBand just support their oshi and their friends a and look at the other girls (these new girls) with critical eyes instead of with “the eyes of love”. Without the sense of a “shared audience” (and ERB positioned herself “above” the need for one) each new girl will have to survive on her own merit with her own audience. This weakens their gen
>>78799474About as DOA as they come
>>78799473Bettel lost sisters when he did the barbie watchalong with bae and shinri. He got baited by beggars and got gotted.
>>78799315What a fucking retarded post.How is more of a good thing bad? Not every single holo needs to be perfectly unique.
>>78799620I'm talking about the actual holos themselves, not 'fans'.
I truly, honestly think that you all have the same exact problem modern politics have, where you can't stop using the same stupid language that immediately turns away anybody who would have agreed with you. You make all the right arguments with all the right points but can't stop using "homocollaber" or "HomoEN" and suddenly you've immediately pushed the people outside of here into calling you an incel who's insecure about the very idea of your oshi talking to a man.People would easily agree with your points on the problems of people adopting the Stars solely as a vector to shit on Hololive, or that you just don't like watching them and shouldn't be obligated by them and their communities to watch them anyway, but you sound like such faggots that they shut down the second you blurt out your /vt/-approved terminology.
So, you guys are telling me that ERB may not handle the Holostars problem with maturity despite her supposed age?t. raised in an Asian society where "the old" are supposed to be more wise
>>78799439It's been so long since an A Way Out stream, I'm excited
>>78799474We've never had an actual homobeggar in EN before. Mori and Kronii didn't care about them that way they just like hanging out with guys, Bae only cares about StarsJP, Ame fucking diedThis chick put BETTEL and Ollie in her debut. She's a real deal beggar
>>78798329holy shit unicorns are delusional. Biboo refers to advent when Erb says she wants to sing with everyone and unicorns push the narrative that Erb doesn't want to collab with advent
>>78799491She more than makes up for it in other idol activities sister, you lack object permanence
>>78799318>Why are homobeggars more interested in trying to mass convert the holo unicorn audience to their homosThe real answer is that, the real homobeggars (not just the ones who want to use it as a vector to anti hololive) do not BELIEVE in a significant unicorn audience. To their mind unicorns are the real minority, homo enjoyers are the temporarily unaware of their preference majority. They just need to be shilled the boys...one more time!
>>78799296Clearly Bae is an OG starmin AND a Hololive fan.
>>78799563>If she does that I can definitely see most of the girls just stonewalling collabs with herIf rest of her gen will be CGDCT (as they seem to be right noiw), she'll probably wil get invited only for mandated collabs (announcements, 3d collabs, etc.)
>>78799494Stop biting baits from obvious homoniggers.
>>78799267speaking of whichPredictions?
>>78799332She was sad and wanted to vent. Why do you think she deleted it? And no I don't think it was management that made her delete it.
I see we're in the>Holo doesnt NEED to hire good talentphase. Tribalism is a hell of a thing
>>78799672either tldr it or no one going to read ittoo long
>>78799296Bae is no sister. She had a JP holostars oshi and watched their streams. This chick doesn't watch streams from the sound of it, just clips.
>>78799730She's still retarded
>>78799315>Please attack Gigi to!!Kill yourself, vermin.
>>78799703Being an idol is more about singing and dancing, imbecile.
If anyone here is a TTRPGfaggot, I think there's value in this comparison:>Bae, despite being considered this prime homobeggar girl for a while, was basically a Ventrue>Liz showed up and taught people what a Malkavian really looks like
>>78799689no western women of any age can be considered "wise"not even most western men can be considered it because of all the mindrot
>>78799449That would be a dick move honestly and make me actually dislike her
>>78799627>Once a runt always a runt PIEN PIEN
>>78799713>Hololive fanEven though it's true, some anons don't like it when you bring that up despite her constantly saying her Kamioshi is Subaru
>>78799736TLDR: if you want actual holofags to support you you need to find a way to express your points without sounding like a sperg
>>78799691GurAme a way out was peak but TimeRyS shenanigans was fantastic too
>destroy hololive?>ez peasy
>>78799315Gigi still has potential. She tried making her debut fun and interactive with chat polls and mini game. It might have not worked super well, but it was something different. The voice might be a bit odd, but nothing that can't be polished. I don't think I will watch her much if she streams so close to Fauna (and so late for EU), but she had an ok start.
>>78799665Because she's entering an already crowded scene with nothing to help herself stand out. She'll have to cannibalise off of existing fanbases while standing in the shadows of not only her more popular Senpais, but her more popular genmates too. Nobody is excited about Gigi. Don't kid yourself
>>78799672Anyone that speaks like that outside of here is a containment breaking faggot and is treated as such.Anyone that comes here thinking 4chan is sunshine and lollipops is a retard and treated as such
>>78799764Can I get that in Naruto terminology?
>>78799735The small corpo sphere can have Kanna Yanagi as a treat
>>78799736tl:dr you're a faggot lol
>>78799799Try to not destroy yourself first
>>78799672Negro you are on 4chins, where words such as "negro" are thrown around lightly, any containment breaker using those terms is either underage or a false flagger, people use proper english outside of here you tard.
>>78799755yeah but aren't retarded girls the cutest?
>>78799789>TLDR: if you want actual holofags to support you you need to find a way to express your points without sounding like a spergHelmite is doing it and yet beggars (and so-called normie Holofans) shit on him for this
>>78799689Britbong hags are people like JK Rowling.
>>78799764Speaking of TTRPG, do you think we'll get anything between Gigi, Fauna and Mori now that there are three people who actually like tabletop stuff in EN now
>>78799672>You make all the right arguments with all the right points but can't stop using "homocollaber" or "HomoEN" and suddenly you've immediately pushed the people outside of here into calling you an incel who's insecure about the very idea of your oshi talking to a man.Nobody gives a fuck. It’s not people don’t say the same thing about ANYONE posting on 4chan, for all intents r9k is the representative of ALL of the posters here for what the outside world can understand. The truth is the truth no matter how people elsewhere perceive it.
>>78799762and that was my point retard?
>>78799672Tourists didn't suffered the homo menace.Just like IDfags keep begging for new gen but shut the fuck up at the notion of a homoID.
>>78799672This is why when I'm in my real life spaces, or even just online in other places, I use much more acceptable language and much more reasonable argumentation and people basically agree with me.I only use the terminology from here, IN here. Because I'm capable of separating my "/#/ self" from my other selves. Like a normal person.Code switching should be a standard class in modern day education.
>>78799440It's her potential, anon. What if she tries to FORCE homocollabs through management? She probably thinks she's that powerful, even if she is only little people. She's going to constantly be bringing them up in conversation, and ruining the atmosphere of any collab that she's in. I also think some anons are thinking that she has the potential to make Nerissa and Shiori potentially slip, even if I don't personally think so. Best case scenario is that she gets a reality check early on that what she's doing isn't making anybody that matters happy, but the best case scenario I can actually believe in is that she learns to shut up about them whenever she isn't alone, and lets herself wither while the rest of the gen thrives.
>>78799799the only thing she is going to destroy is herselfAnd I will be there. Every step of the way.
>>7879972750k. Only bots for Kuzuha right now
Don't know if it is a discord groups doing but seeing the constant 'elitist' mindset of Cecillia's fans, I have decided she will never be my oshi as I can't be part of such awful fans. I will just stick to Ina and takos are still one of the most well behaved and comfy fanbase here. I really hope they are falseflaggers and not another sapling fanbase clone shitting on other girls and fanbases.
>>78799842So what "idol activities" does Bae do that make up for her male collabing?
>>78799315>Ame is la CreatividadAme never streams. I guess Gigi can take the Creatividad roll from Ame?
>>78799764Rrat is more of a Toreador but I understand the Ventrue comparison.>>78799823One is a pure blood while the other is a mental nutcase.
>>78799803No way shiori's shori's are that big
>>78799689Google "activist"
>>78799736tl;dr The reason nobody listens to /vt/ about the obvious problems between Hololive and Holostars is because you all can't stop using your special /vt/-approved homo names for them.
>>78799537I'm telling you, the whole hobby has grown stale despite the numbers on debut that means nothing on the long-term - that was the same formulaic shit we've been through for years now, there was no originality whatsoever in the debuts. That doesn't help there was few to no hype on this gen at all to begin with and even if the doll might end-up as being the sole bright star of Justice, that gen is just painfully mediocre. I don't care about the homo dick sucking at all, they just are mediocre. That doesn't exonerate the other corpos to to do the same, because they're equally as mediocre (looking at you NijiEN).
>>78799315I like gigi, the bong cunt can die in her corner.
>>78799852>What if she tries to FORCE homocollabs through management?Anon management can't even force them to do sponsor streams. The second they try and force a collab is probably a "someone gets fired or the company implodes" moment
>>78799852>What if she tries to FORCE homocollabs through management? She probably thinks she's that powerful, Anon, you’re fantasizing as hard as a homobeggar. Maybe you are one?
>>78799672No one is going outside of here proselytizing using those words. In fact barely anyone negatively discussed homoEN out of here. The fuck you talking about? It's like saying anti immigration will never be a popular stance because people use slurs on /pol/ when talking about it.
>>78799672Neh I tried being polite and rational during the peak Tempiss drama. Tried explaining to the sisters that I'm just a fan who likes a specific kind of content, said content only provided by Hololive, and that I'd be sad if it changed direction and turned just like their competitor, NijiEN.Got called a schizo unicorn incel and told to seethe about it.There is no arguing with them.
I would genuinely love to know what Mr. CGDCT's thoughts were here
Justice subs3 hours after first 2 debuts
>>78799852>What if she tries to FORCE homocollabs through management?that already happened it was called Holizontal and it failed. Even Homocollaber Towa outright said that management was retarded and they arent doing it again
>>78799840>Speaking of TTRPG, do you think we'll get anything between Gigi, Fauna and Mori now that there are three people who actually like tabletop stuff in EN nowI would love some TTRPG collab with people who wants to do it, so it won't follow path the Mythbreakers took.Maybe someone from Advent would be up for it? Biboo or Shiori?
>>78799672yeah, see the replies to the recent reddit posts regarding the botting to see this, it's clear that there is a general sentiment against homobeggars who are using them as a cudgel to attack hololive, but are turned off from expressing it because they don't want to be associated with 4chan incels and only blew up after the homobeggars overplayed their hand>>78799836actually helmite regularly gets support from general holofags
>>78799828>>78799789>>78799904>all of them have different tldrso...which one do i trust
>>78799889>somehow made it about saplingsKill yourself
>>78799943Is it grim or nah
>>78799823Niggas be like>DAMN, those Uchiha niggas be CRAZY yo, Itachi is truly the WORST KINDA NIGGAbut get all quiet when a REAL NIGGA shows up to bat like MADARA
>>78799755Yeah but thats why we like her
>>78799852She’s 100% gonna bring them up whenever possible in the inevitable “Advent vs Justice” collabs just to spite the dogs
>>78799954this one>>78799828
>>78799812You're an obvious shitstirrer, but I will agree that Gigi is probably the most boring debut I've seen in a while. Time can only tell how she grows her content, but as of now she's not exactly on the top of my list. She's currently, "will watch if she's on and there isn't anyone else to watch" for me.
>>78799934It will be extremely funny if he got outmaneuvered internally and some retard released a gen that crashed and burned
>>78799943>gigiunironically what was Jap thinking? If I was Mint I would be seething.
>>78799904Oh yeah, we should use words like "whoring" and "inferior sex" to refer to the girls like the beggars do on reddit and twitter.
>>78799672We are on 4chan, you dimwit retard. Of course we'll use hostile language, it's part of the package. Anyone who's inacable of translating their 'tard hat' into a normal one shouldn't be engaging in discourse outside of this site anyways and deserves to be mocked.
>>78799754Oh yeah, let's talk about all the good things she did in her debut instead>A Chat Plays Frogger clone that barely worked and lasted way too long>Constantly calling herself an idiot that made people feel uncomfortable>A fan vote DnD session that also lasted way too long and was railroaded like mad>A music video that's only good because she got a good stop motion animatorWow, what a good hire
>>78799852you can't do shit especially when you are doa kouhai
>>78799852>This newbie is going to force Gawr Gura to collab with homos by controlling managementyou sound fucking retarded
>>78799852>ForceShe is a newbie, who the fuck can she told around?
>>78799672I don't even talk about this subject out of here, the musketeers do a good enough job
>>78799841the issue with this is that you want to get more people on your side, otherwise all you're doing is being a hipster smugly smirking about knowing it all along as everything goes to shit around you
>>78799930I used to watch Tempus than gradually grew to outright hate homostars after all the shit beggars, dumb and dumber, and the blatant favoritism.
>>78799836Hot take for this thread but Helmite has fallen off a cliff in terms of usefullness for a while now.He got too angry and too into "seeking people out for arguments."His kind was only useful when they were guardian types at the homefront. Going out into the beggar lands and fighting is and was a mistake on his part that has only served to>draw more shitposters into his areas>put a target on his head>significantly harm his mental
>>78799672Anon... Why do you think that outside of here the term homobeggar is called collabbeggar? Only complete retards can't adjust to environment.
>>78799969>Yeah but thats why we like herShe's not my cup of tea (her voice filters me) but I'm happy that she found her place in Hololive and is in CGDCT faction
>>78799889Oh boy the usually comfy EU hours /here/ are going to be so shit now because of the doll's fanbase
>>78800000>Numbers thread gets the numbers Awful
>>787999541
>>78799805>She has potential! >But I'm not gonna watch her thoYou're so different from the sisters
>>78799904Pretty sure nobody uses /vt/ lingo outside of /vt/.
>>78799972>Advent v. Justice may or may not be fire but not in the way people can imagineJust like in the real life FUTBOL!
>>78799840Would be a good way to break the ice with the new kouhais. Fauna DMing, Mori + Gigi + Cecilia playing. Maybe Pantera, people doompost her but I think she will be fine. No Liz tho, fuck that.
>>78799400This is a solid point I hadn't really internalized until this new chick. Yeah she filters me, but Bae does clearly care.
>>78799943Why the fuck are their sub growths so slow? Advent ZOOMES after debut. Elizabeth gained...50k?
>>78799934Yagoo or the korean guy probaby told him to get a homocollaberreminder that they can't include most of EN in these cross-promotional things with the homos because most of EN doesn't want to associate with them
>>78799672The real angle that should be pushed if /#/ actually wants their ideas to be accepted in the mainstream is that homobegging is inherently misogynistic. It's an idea pushed mostly by men in online spaces that talented and successful women are somehow obligated to prop up less talented and successful men, and that if they reject that idea then they're subject to a quite blatantly sexist witch hunt.
>>78799962it can be spun either way so go nuts
>>78800023He didn't even mention gura.
>>78799945>>78799915>>78800021Maybe I'm just worried. But years of dealing with woman after woman like that and knowing how they think and act changes you.
>>78799972>the dogsYou mean ALL of fucking Advent?
>>78800000>Wow, what a good hireYes, she'll need some polishing, but she'll be a great hire - unike ERB
>>78800058Yes, that's completely different, but nice try.
>>78799890>full album and an EP>3D live with a lot of budget put into it>Idol-esque side gigs like Baegemite and Strawberry farm vlogs>Steady release schedule >An idol-like schedule of lifestyle with dance practice 3 times a week and recordings 2 times a week>Fanservice for fans>Always willing to step up for musical opportunities by coverI'm missing some stuff but I don't think I need to elaborate further
>>78800000What are you even doing? Not going to agree with you since you obviously want to start shit for no reason. Now fuck off.
>>78800059That hasn't been true for years now. All those containment breaking videos and Twitter accounts like bvtm have done alot of damage
>>78799735I agree sister, we should shit on holos instead
>>78800073People were starving for Advent after 2 years of nothing.
>>78799908Damn just leave then buddy. You are far too hurt over nothing.
>>78799904Here is a rebuttal>nobody comes to 4chan for nuanced, civilized, politically approved discussion>nobody from here goes outside with the same level of language and if they do, they get tagged here with the worst possible moniker: a containment breaker. Your theory is that if people in this forum talked like they do in the civilized world they would convince more people they’re right. My rebuttal is that “as heard on 4chan” is a thought terminating expression and nobody that knows what 4chan is will ever take what people here says seriously or on face value. With that said, “homobeggars” (used through the short “beggars”) already escaped containment long ago AND helped people see what the other two holo related Reddit forums (the homo and the ironic) were doing (actively anti’ing the girls and their audience)
>>78800045It doesn't help that retards /here/ started following him around and upvoting him everywhere, including in dead threads not monitored by anyone. Homobeggers quickly sussed something was up when some dude in a 3 day deleted thread got 20 fucking upvotes on new comments.
>>78800000From V4Mirai you could have gotten her genmates that isWife experienceJP ASMR experience and a pretty good gamerA hag that loves old anime, retro games, drinking and building gunplaYou got the least beloved one which is good for V4Mirai fans at least
>>78800000Absolute waste of a get. GiGi is good, seethe more retard.
>>78800094you guys say she's like Ollie, has Ollie ever forced a unicorn friendly girl to homocollab?
>>78800051>usually comfy EU hours /here/ good one, 9/10 bait
>>78799911You only say that because your only other option is a pile of garbage. I doubt you'd give a fuck about her in a week or two
>>78800075kek i actually saw someone doing that before but that's because she was an actual feminist
>>78800126It's a homonigger trying to divert attention from ERB.
>>78800000wasted get, what a shit post.
>enter numberfag threads
>>78800071Yeah, Fauna DM'ing one of her little dungeon games or Mori DM'ing another homebrew like the Halloween special would be a great collab idea if they can get Justice on board.
> Through the veil a wish is successfully granted
>>78800169......
>>78799889Threads during Justice collabs are going to be so nasty if the pink panther is also going to be considered a 'flop' /here/ and in /grun/
>>78799962Worse than advent better than reglossBut it doesn't say much.
>>78800000make one for ERB please
>>78800059yeah you'd like to believe that wouldn't you?Unfortunately thanks to bvtm and their ilk this entire site is filled with tourists who think themselves an "epic 4channer" thanks to reading a few screencaps and go around spreading their shit outside here
The fact that ERB didn't put in Kobo in her homo art collection makes me think she's more of a saviorfag than anything.
>>78799672are you stupid, do you think people /here/ use 4chan lingo outside of here? you know you need to be 18 or older to post here right?
>>78800000the frogger game was absolutely kinochat fucking it up and making her scream was funny
>>78800071You can't have a Fauna dungeon without Mumei
>>78800169Who wants to tell him
>>78799836NOBODY like culture warAt some point this thread when from hating it to engaging in it and cheer for it, despite agreeing that Vtubing should not be about culture wars 2 years ago
>Faunaschizo already shitting on the dollyup, I'm thinking she's the one who will save Justice.
>>78800000Yeah she'll be like Kaela - forever doomed to irrelevance due to a horrendous debut. Oh wait
>>78800176I remember that one, and it worked wonders because the homobeggar actually went mask off as someone who hates women.
>>78799981Has anyone ever improved enough that she went from "Everyone's fifth option" to "Actually entertaining streamer I'd watch"?
>>78800051>EU hours>comfylollmao
>>78800169fucking newfags
>>78799315One thing I notice about Gigi, Hololive probably accept her for her for passion and adamant nature.Yes she has subpar voice, nervous, and so many downsides. But looking at her trying her best to do something is enough. As usual I will never judge people on their first month
>>78799789Holofags are already on our side. They don't watch the Holostars at all no matter how much it's shoved in their faces, which is a whole fucking lot. They studiously ignore these dudes after years and years of shilling that would make most advertising agencies blush.Whether they consciously analyze their reasoning for that or not doesn't really matter. They don't like them and don't want to watch them, and we didn't have anything to do with it.
Well, unicorns? Why did the homobeggar btfo cgdct cunny?
>>78800162>Wife experience Garbage>HagGarbage>JP asmr Garbage
>>78800216EOPs don't care about Kobo. Zeta and Ollie are far more EOP friendly.
>>78800226Only some people here think that, and they get shot on sight whenever they try and actively push people to fight about shit
>>78800045Nah, no person did more to highlight how deranged the beggars audience was than he and the rest of the “visible ones”. If people have receipts of the beggars being antis, 90% of those were in responses to them so, mission accomplished.
>>78800073I don't think this group appeals to JOP at all which doesn't help.
>>78800235Iroha and Nene for me
>>78800162Would Mariya really be the same without her current model though? Don't get me wrong I really like her but I just can't imagine her with another model
>>78800169how do we tell him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaN2snk6MAchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaN2snk6MAchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaN2snk6MAcBASED GOLDEN GEN
so what im getting is, Liz is like ollie nut>infinitely more talented and a phenomenal singer>way sexier and pleasant to look at>cute brit hag voice>>>>>>>>>>>but at the end of the day, its still Olliedid I get that right?
>>78800051More likely, dollCHADS are going to livepost CeCe just like saplings do, and we'll end up with comfy CeCe + Fauna hours
>>78800267Addition of holostars fanbase?
>>78800275>puts in ogaSeems pretty clear that she's not trying to pander to some kind of EOP audience and just put in whatever she personally likes.
>>78800227He's already tried his sapling roleplay into sapling seethe in her thread. Even bringing up this thread there and vice versa.
>>78800000She streams in FFST which is good enough hire for me
>>78800169She tried
>>78800305yeah fair enough
>>78800235Literally Fauna?
>>78800162>Got the biggest runt of the whole corpoJesus Christ, this is like if Aia joined Hololive
>>78800226>NOBODY like culture warExcept homobeggers of course.
>>78800169yesnot only that, she also invited homo eceleb to holo VC
>doxx pink to distracted people from dirty red's Twitter antic>Shitpost orange to distracted people from red's live debut homobeggingWho could be behind this...
we can all agree liz is the new best en singer right?
>>78799943Fucking grim but what you expect with homo cock sleeve the stream and boring debut between both of them
>>78799296you and i have some differences on what makes a sister because that's the wrong sister
>>78800169
>>78800257This. I personally want to push her because she seems dedicated to the idol journey. I'm never gonna turn away someone like that.
>>78800226>At some pointyeah, the point when the doxx site got shut down and sisters invaded
>>78800299boy do I wish I could have read their minds in that momentalso, stop shilling your channel, fag
>>78800166Quints confirm it, fag. Gigi is a shitty hire and everyone knows it. That's why nobody's talking about her
>>78800365it's a mystery, we may never know
>>78799852Oh no what if she drugs and forces the holos into a homo orgy!?!?At this point you sound like a caricature of a unicorn. Nothing is gonna happen, she'll get worse views when she homocollabs. You can just not watch her.
>>78800365Niji cucks like you
>>78800305Ollie would've unironically inclined if Olivia was her main persona and that fact makes her seethe endlessly.
>>78800365Okbh?
>>78799943This is regloss tier
>>78800305Honestly, her voice could be better. Still British, so a good voice by default but her type of Brit accent is one of the worst. More of a loud and boisterous accent than a reserved and cute one.
>>78800217If you've spent more than five minutes outside of /vt/ you'd already be more than well aware that shit has broken containment long, long ago. Dramachannels and shit like bvtm/okbh have guaranteed that any buzzword that exists on this board will show up outside of here for the exact people who call you or me "unicorns".
>>78800169lol
>>78800305I think the singer fags are overblowing it tbdesu. It's the good 'ol singing tierlist timeloops.
>>78800045Eh, not gonna say you are totally wrong but no man can stay sane while dealing with beggars every single day.
>>78800285Back then, I'd agree. But NOW is not then. And the amount of use he's generated has diminished greatly since then.If he was actually an asset that was controllable like people shitpost about with the whole "cabal" thing, it would be preferable to shut it down now that the maximum usefulness has been extracted, but obviously he's his own person and does this shit without being told to, so we have to deal with it.
>>78800267>sabotaged the rest of her genmates debutzamn
After four long grueling years she finally did it... The wall is down, Ollie won. I'm so proud of /our/ girl.
>>78800365you forgot the 5 liz seethe threads in the catalog
>>78800313Anon, her picks are pretty much the 1:1 starter pack for Stars/Starscollab clipwatchers.
>>78800094>But years of dealing with woman after woman like thatI’ll just assume you’re a weak man. I never had to deal with “a woman like that” for more than the time it takes to realize that fact. All of my social interactions are strictly voluntary, whenever I realize this or that person is detrimental I just … don’t interact with them anymore?I don’t really plan to watch ERB. I never watched a single EN homo OR Regloss stream and I don’t even know their voices and, outside of Raden (because od the very characteristic model) I couldn’t even pick them out of an unmarked lineup. If you elect to continue interacting with something that bothers you, that’s 100% on you.
>>78799889>>78800051EU hours are going to be ravaged by doll's fans, Kiaraschizo, Faunaschizo and Ennacuck if he plans to bot any of these girls
>>78800178I think it's just trying to setup for his future falseflag as a true Ceci fan that hates every other justice
>>78800405I know man, it's just... I don't want to see another damn thing I love turned into something awful again. Shit hurts
>>78800305>cute Brit hag voiceNah, it’s Brit alright but I don’t think it’s “cute”(it’s supposed to be hot not cute). Singing is alright but it’s like British got talent like with her overdoing it
>>78800209>Justice collabsHow often will those even be? Advent kept up a near perfect streak of weekly full gen collabs (until the japan arc happened) do you guys think justice can match that?
>”The Organization” assembled a team specifically to hunt Advent>It is headed by a homosister KINO
>>78800400>What in the goddam?
>>78800427She must have been purely hired based on resume and being willing to fill EU hours. I don't think MilkyQueen is really Hololive material simply based on voice and she's an okay singer and idol lover.
>>78800075I actually honestly sincerely believe this, I think there's elements of misogyny in how some Holostars fans behave no doubt. Remember that guy on reddit the other day who started fucking ranting and raving about how all Hololive fans only want to fuck them and that they aren't talented enough to get their numbers without sex appeal? It was incredible
>>78800045That guy needs to stop going to the homo and okbh reddit and picking fights with randoms on twitter. Every once in a while I find him on my feed fighting some guy with 0 likes.
>>78800488It's mostly scenarios where I can't just stop interacting, and when I can, I do.
>>78800485And Kobo/Altare isn't?
I'm not that fond of Liz but she should lean into doing the impression bits more, that was the best part of her debut and definitely the part that's getting the most attention.
>>78799474>Self assured bong hagNo, like I said yesterday she is probably going to try to be a guiding mother figure to the girls in her gen, if she is that kind of homobeggar (and considering the art choices that seems likely) she is going to be a nightmare for any cgdct holos to get close to. Even if she doesn't try to force people into collabs don't expect her to hold her tongue and not mention them around people.My gut says she is going to cause problems in that way primarily and also not see anything wrong with her own behaviour. I base this on nothing else than being a bong myself and knowing how stubborn our women can be.She came into a almost entirely CGDCT holoEN guns blazing with constant twitter interaction and a scrapbook showcasing homo's above even herself ffs. She is here to shake things up mark my words.
>>78800257idol journey GODS winning as usual
>>78800538>ERB will ask rest of justice homo question every collabyou sure you want that?
>>78800539It's straight up ludo kino. Dare I say it's intentional on Japsama's part
>Support Liz = supporting homos>Hating on Liz = Holo vs Holo>Ignoring Liz = ???
>>78799250Golden Gen
>>78800155I'm going to watch the debuts of the other 2 still but let's just say I'll have some other priorities / life imperatives, so I'll have to watch those on VOD. If I went through the absolute pain that was the last NijiEN wave, so I will for the rest of Justice. So unless there's no hint of originality in these debuts or something else I have not seen yet, then yeah, I'm gone. Doesn't change the fact that the industry has gone stale (even in term of numbers since we're on that thread in particular) and nobody proved me wrong on that. That's the hill I'm going to die on.
Gigi>>>>>>ERB
>>78800593CGDCT chad.
>>78800305Her singing is good, but her personality is a turn off. Mumei and IRyS have good karaokes covered in EN, discounting Gura of course
>comfy EU hoursdoko...
>>78799672When I browse /vt/, I take every single post I see and mentally reduce the take by 90% and it works out great for me. For example>Kill yourself you retarded nigger troonBecomes>I don't agree with what you said.And>KEK WHAT A FLOP THIS BITCH IS DOABecomes>She didn't do as well as I personally expected, and I don't think her actions are favorable for courting the general Hololive audience.Makes browsing /vt/ far more palatable. Everyone writes in hyperboles and uses sensational language because the only currency on 4chan is (You)s, and the best way to get a (You) is with histrionics. Take most things said with a grain of salt, realize most anons only want attention, and mentally filter shit posts as if they're ads begging you to engage with them.That being said, fuck you, you retarded nigger troon, you're a subhuman monkey who deserves to be sterilized and put down like the animal you are.
Liz thread
>>78799658This was insightful and I agree to some extent, but I think the gen can be saved by the rest of the girls freezing ERB out, and establishing themselves as being inside the walled garden. Even if they don't and only one of them is good, she just has to find some way to connect with SNOrys or FWMC and she'll get the same blanket acceptance the rest have.
>>78800556Anon do some opsec checks, there's unironic honest to god stereotypes of incels amongst the beggars. It's not a meme.
>>78800563She's a post-Tempus 1 HomoEN convert, after being a Luxiem viewer. There's a reason she starts with Flayon and Bettel.
>>78800593ignoring someone is well within anyone's right as a vieweryou owe nobody your time and attention
>>78800593catalog
>>78800593Do you have a loicense for that invisible gun?
Is it bad I prefer the British woman over Gigi
ERB seems like the type that would seethe at Gura’s lolicon pandering so I already don’t like her. Gigi can show me her cunny and I’ll forgive her for her mediocre to bad debut stream.
>>78800218The Frogger game was impossible to win, was constantly full of her annoying death screams, and should have ended two minutes earlier. It says a lot that she LOST viewers during the chat interaction segments
>>78800368I'll put her below IRyS, Nerissa, Gura and Mumei, because of her horrible Japanese.
>>78800593I'm gonna shit on the redheaded cunt without shame. Don't care what you faggots think.
>>78800556That's the fucked up part, it's like, actually trueGod help me, I wouldn't have believed myself agreeing with that a decade ago, but well, a decade ago I was a 15 year old shitposter, and a decade of life goes to change a man's views.
>>78800464Anon, a beggar, on the Holostars sub, just this week went mask off so hard (motivated by the little debate brought to their turf) which he was forced by his buddies to self immolate to try to not drag all of them to the pit. As for Heimite, it’s a blessing he’s at “this side” but he just likes to argue. There is no downside for him. There is also no downside for “this side” because, as the famous line says >they expect one of us at the wreckage, brother!
>>78800593Ignoring ERB = The right answer.
>>78799672>spoiler abuse>naive retardThe modern landscape doesn't allow for nuanced opinions, it's funny how you think people haven't tried reasoning with you tards.
>>78800649Gigi is boring and ERB is a homocollaber so they both sinned
>>78800592Not to mention Justice specifically are “the troublemakers” in a very strict organization (Hololive)It’s their lore
>>78800636Oga existed before any of them, you're just on a coping spiral now.
>>78800593She needs to get her share of hate, and then she will be ignored
>>78800670Above Mumei and tied with Gura and Nerissa
>>78800593>Ignoring Lizthat called proper unicorn behavior
>>78799962Be a little while after they've all debuted to have any real idea how it's going.
Me on the left
>>78800291>The most forgettable HoloX>The girl who lost all her fans due to tracing
>>78800649If you are EU then go for it anon, she literally meant for you. Japs don’t like her and Americans will get filtered with that accent.
>>78800636>There's a reason she starts with Flayon and Bettel.she started with Bae retard
You tried this angle with Shiori and Advent after her debut. What makes you think it'll work this time antibro?
>>78800593Supporting Liz = supporting cancerHating Liz = fighting cancerIgnoring Liz = ignoring cancerhm I wonder what will happen to the host body if you ignore cancer, surely it will go away on its own
>>78800581Anon if she pulls any funny shit she'll just get blacklisted, especially around girls like Gura who are autistic about their image
>>78800715Adorable
>>78800593based on beggars that's called harassment
>>78800169fucking newfag I swear. There's a reason why she is the lowest viewed member in the entirety of Hololive.
>>78800593I've already purged her from my mind, I hope I never have to see her
>>78800235Korone? Pekora? Kanata?
>>78800315People will be watching Fauna and Ina if she streams a long game. She's absolutely killing her growth by streaming at this timeslot
>>78800593>Ignoring LizThis. Out of sight, Out of mind.
>>78800720Iroha has one of the best 3D models in Hololive though
>>78800756>Liz casually doing an off collab with Tempus>a-antibro? stop spreading your rrats, she’s still unicorn friendlyKek
It's crazy that Marine is still the only good redhead in the company, and she was hired almost 5 years ago
>>78800823agreed, one of the most effective treatments of cancer, just ignore it
>>78800045no one cares about your twitter fights with him, sister.
>>78800816Being a waiting room isnt always bad, she should start at FST -3 though
>>78800829she's so cute
>>78800769your mother should've ignored you
>>78800829What's your point? She's extremely forgettable. Laplus, Chloe, and Koyori are the ones everyone knows.
>>78800559There is no scenario you’re forced to interact with a person. Even in a professional setting, you can elect to NOT interact outside what’s strictly necessary to fulfill your job description and, for the most part, in this day and age, you can keep all interactions in writing or in a formalized setting >a meeting The same thing goes for family interactions. You aren’t forced to interact with any family member, most people do because of societal expectations but if someone bothers you to the point you refers to it as “women like that”, just … don’t interact. >unless you’re talking about your fucking wife or her motherThen you’re fucked if you love your wife or has children. Every other interaction in your life is strictly voluntary. Your love for your wife and your children … that’s baked in, you can’t really choose
>>78800840>rrat foresightjust like with Advent amiryt, up top sister
>>78800257precisely. She tried her best and that's what matters the most.
Please Doll, just one reply to a homo or take lengthy breaks like Ina, Mumei or Gura. I don't want another Sapling fanbase clone shitting up numbers.
>>78800816hour or two in a free slot is good enough to grow
>>78800557okbh banned the musketeers months ago they made that musketeer targeting post.
>>78800845Bae is pretty good if you look pass ‘that’… she doesn’t do it often
question: which side will they be on? Elizabeth or CGDCT?
>>78800829
>>78799972Fuwamoco are strong willed and won't falter. They'll politely turn their noses up at any mention of it. If they must, they'll even flat out say "no thank you" live on stream to a male collab proposal.
>>78800885No point I just wanted to say it because it's true and she's cute
The bot, Riku, rev it up, Kuzuha must win
>>78800593Part of the shadowy cabal
>>78799689>Western bong who drinking the alphabet kool aid are suppose to be wiseI think there are a lot of holoen member who are wiser than her like bae.
>>78800202>>78800223>>78800256>>78800301>>78800327>>78800351>>78800443>>78800807I assume you're talking about the apex thing. didnt she create a separate event specifically for the unicorn-friendly girls?
>>78799658Personally I was just so fucking disappointed by ERB's debut that it bled into Gigi's debut as well since it started right afterwards.I found myself not really paying attention to the debut and just threadreading which isn't a good sign because I fucking woke up early just to watch these debuts.Nothing she did on the debut was particularly interesting enough for me to tab back in either.If Green wasn't on tomorrow, I would just skip Day 2.I feel like that's unfair, but then she's not really streaming in my timezone anyway so idk I guess I'll just watch clips of her like I do with most EN girls.
>>78800919Respectfully, no
>>78800556>>78800674I’ve been saying this for over a yr. The main homobeggars are the 3rd worlders too from SEA and LATAM were machismo is more prominent. That said I can’t wage war against them cus I was the exact same fucking way agreeing with those male streamers that said women streamers being talentless hacks who had to pander to simps by showing their boobs and being sexual. Hololive changed me ….
>>78800169Liz won't actually be seen like Ollie until she tries to do that
>>78800593Watch other Holos. You got tons of them and with more talent.
>>78800936Newfag
Is it true that Liz knows nothing about Holo or is it just shit posting?
>>78800933BELO JOGO COMING IN
>>78800933I don't even think GTA streams are on the table today anon.
>>78800918this image isnt even relevant anymore, phasefag
>>78800918Keep my Clock Wife out of your fucking shitpost Nijicuck. She unironically hate the homos now
>>78800918this image feels more and more like a relic of a bygone time
>>78800918Can they debut an actual good homo so the collabs would actually be interesting?
The only correct course of action is to purge the girl from your mind.Much like the Warlock Osiris purged bad timelines from the Vex mind on Mercury in the Infinite Forest, simply purge yourself of thoughts of them and you will be better off.
>>78800918You forgot Mumei
>>78800918I was so happy we were mostly past all these fucking triangle shitposts, I even deleted my watamelon one. Fucking red woman stirring up the retards thanks a lot
>>78800931dont reply to him kazamatai
>>78800962She knows about the HoloUnicorn and Homobeggar war
>>78800976Love how you give it credibility at any point in time, you're not slick either
She's coming for Cecilia
>>78800918Mori picks fauna in any scenario
>>78800996Is that supposed to be a Destiny 2 reference?
>stopped watching hololive because of the small corpo minecraft serverhuh i just have minecraft brainrot
Well tonight was fun. Lots of seething is always a fun time. See you guys tomorrow for the actual good talents.
>>78801014and she cares more about that than hololive
why do i have a feeling ennacuck is gonna bot liz to beat IRyS/fauna instead of biboo from now on
Please stop trying to pretend that Gozaru is sexy
>>78801033Gigi is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGj0xMWReQM900k doryaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
>>78799943I hate the red whore and i fell asleep midway into gigi’s debut and only woke up a couple minutes ago. Tells me all i meed to know about them. Unsubbed and hopefully the other two can do it for me. I am curious though who the fuck decided these niji-tier chuuba were acceptable?
>>78800918Add mumei, Ina, Kiara and Irys. They collabs with male before
>>78800226beggars love the culture war. they talk about it almost every day.
>>78801031maybe.
>>78801028True. Everyone pictured picks Fauna.
>>78799440I think the main problem is that she's so brazen about it.Which makes one think what else she could be brazen about expressing. Like the modern politics bullshit that Hololive so carefully stays away from.She's pulling at the leash so hard that she might drag the entire branch into that shitpit furname. Especially when the homos have started pushing more and more IDpol shit lately with minimal pushback.
>>78801047Oh, 100000%. She's the perfect target.
>>78800939>I feel like that's unfairI mean not really, this is the pro and con of being in a corpo and a gen, a rising tide raises all the boats but the reverse can also happen
>>78801047I don't think it ever gave a shit about homos or homo collabers
>>78801033Hey, Gigi is still fine. Her gaming choices are good.
I genuinely don’t think they’ll be any Holostar and Hololive collab moving forward. Most of the girls learned and most the dude are traumatized. Liz would get rejected by Flaygod even if she begged.
>>78801056AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>78800994It's gonna be 'New' and 'Novel' which would make audience watch.
>>78801047that would require liz to stream a lot, which seems unlikely based on her not being a gaming person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AibtyCAhyQE&ab_channel=TheLivingTombstone>it actually ended up being Elizabethso Liz now "techincally" holds the record for most viewed MV now
>>78801055>#33 on trending Thought it have dropped off by now since it showed a shit ton as soon as it hit 700kish
>>78800918Kronii is still the same spiteful person so this is probably how it's going to be>Liz asks Kronii to collab with homos>Kronii agrees>kronies chimp out>Kronii has another woman moment>views get even lower
>>78801055>1 day already passedahuh
>>78801106kys homobeggar
>>78801104AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>78800996Destinyanon you finally made a smart post or at least I'm guessing that's you, I don't know any of the namesBut yeah, there's no value to blasting her unless she does something egregious, and even then do it respectfully. Everyone is a representative of their oshi, ya gotta treat that responsibility seriously. The numbers will work out in the end anyways, we've seen this shit over and over again, which really brings to question why the fuck they keep trying it.
>>78799727not males so grim
>>78801047dont fucking give xer ideas you retard
>>78801105Those 2 homos who did the watchalong won't.
>>78801047no need to announce your shit ennakek
>>78801056Gigi is so boring people fell asleep during her debut stream. Which is arguably worse than being controversial
>>78800962she knows about it and wants to fight it. just give other people your views.
>>78801118I dont see Liz in that MV?
>>78801084You need to drop that game, anon. It's mid at best and the lore is completely warping your perception of reality.
>>78801056>Gigi is goodEh... She's acceptable. She hasn't shown me anything to make me consider she's a worthwhile hire, but she also hasn't shown anything to make me consider she's a bad hire. Just have to wait and see for this one.
>>78801118Not on her channel tho?
>>78800996best post itt
>>78801105That dino faggot would beg to differ
>>78801119It's actually moved back up slightly, it was at 34
Not her channel, not her band, deleted bitch
>>78800984>like a relic of a bygone timeAlot of them were made in 2022 when it was genuinely thought to be over. Havent seen much since fagni and the sex pest were gone
>>78800859when do you think her genmates will start? She's probably going to the last of the Justice streaming block, like Shiori is the last of the Advent block
>>78801056>sounds like BaeThat’s enough for me not to like her
>enter numberfag threads>falseflags littered everywhere>Ennacuck nowhere to be seen
Please stop comparing Liz to Ollie, she's not that bad, or at least she has positive sides to herself at least!She loves holos, even if she tries to rope them into homo collabs she still loves them at it shows every time they interact, she also has nice comedic timing and is great on the stage! So please stop calling Liz EN Ollie!
>>78801119Those were yuro hours
>>78800936she scrambled to change the format AFTER the massive backlash. Reminder that it's her 1 million wish and she wanted this event to be a yearly occurrence.
>>78799727Niji new gen? sub 40k without raid
>>78801104And her dedicated 1500 viewers will watch those gaming streams
>>78801001Mumei is CGDCT prime
>>78799852given her debut what you saw is what you'll get. she's not changing her path it was very blatant.
>>78801174>starslopPOWER OF ONE, POWER OF TWO, POWER OF MANNYYYYYYYYYYY
Wait what’s wrong with Gigi?
>>78801186ennacuck has a new oshi
>>78801120Keep dreaming homonig
>Hololive Justice>There is no Justice ???
>>78800094At the end of the day, just keep your hobbies diversified for your own safety. I watch Hololive but that's not the only think I have to watch. If the day comes that I need to cut them off, I will do it sadly but comfortably because I have other stuff to enjoy in the world.
the pillars of CGDCT
>>78801211im gonna post THAT
>>78801105Jurard has supposedly "been through some real shit" like Hex and "laughs at all the attempts to troll him because it means he's living rent free in antis heads." Take that how you will, but he most certainly will not be afraid of collabing with anyone who gives him a bit of attention.
Wait, if Faunaschizo already attacks Cecilia and her fanbase, does that mean he is more saplings-anti than Fauna-anti?
>>78801192Wow! you already know her despite she just debuted
>>78800936They are not, I believe that was the third time? It was the way it was announced that caused problems.She did give up after that, and come around after that at least
>>78801178Honestly I dont know, CC seems to be a couple of hours before GG maybe
>>78801228Nothing. It's homobeggar deflection.
>>78801228Nothing, it's up to preference
>>78801228Nothing, her voice is a little too plain for my taste. But she will probably comfortably be Bae tier numbers wise.
>>78801228ESLs cant understand her
>>78801237Justice for Omega
Huh the 24 hour stream of the racing globie got better views than I thought, i thought she would be down to 100 ccv when she was 12 hours in
>>78801250remove the two homo collabers on the left and right and replace them with Cecilia and Gigi
>>78801186Lurking is key to more efficiently identify the threadshitters.
>>78801228Nothing is bad and nothing is good.
>>78800939which is precisely the reason why first impression is crucial. Their sub growth is already lower than Advent and they went with ERB as their first talent and supposed "leader".
>Brit representative>Vox>ERBBritbro fucking explain yourself RIGHT NOW
>>78800235Aqua.I skipped some of my oshi's streams to watch her play Undertale.It was fun.
>>78801228Nothing. And there's nothing right about her either
>>788012502022 my beloved
>>78801174>Kronii got burnt by her fall to the darkside, only to return to the light side at the endbravo Nolan
>>78800267So homostar fanbase account to 18k, yike.
fucked up how this is still probably only the second worst girl named Liz to represent the UK on the international stage this decade
>>78801260He loves Fauna. Why else would he watch every stream of her and talk about her 18 hours a day? She is staying rent-free in his head.
>>78801228Homobeggars trying to defect to her to take the heat off of the redhead bitch. Gigi is fine.
>>78800626Based
Gigi, no, pls not you too
Ame is a saviorfag so she went out of her way to helped the homos. She doesn’t deserve that level of hate.
>>78801325I don't like that she's collabing with homos, but I can live with it. She starts collabing with niji males and I will go ballistic.
>>78801228Nothing. Her debut stream is just mid but other than that nothing's wrong.
>>78801325Where's Mysterio?!
>>78801105She's going to. Just move on, anon.
>>78801325The small corpo brits are quite nice
>>78801228It's biboo and fuwamoco situation, people are complaining that it's too Teletubbies for them. Seriously I am sick of you mutts thinking deepvoice = good, what are you a trannies lover or something?
>>78801228
>>78801228Incredibly boring
>>78801192Ironyposting is the most low quality slop anyone could make here. Be funny.
>>78801228Nothing. She hasn't proven herself yet but anyone expecting her to do that off her debut alone is retarded.
>>78801342>The Emperor is dead>Darth Vader redeemed>Boba Fett is still a bounty hunter but not working for the Empire anymore>JabbaKINO
>>78801376>MystaLiterally a flip now
>>78799652So are you just making shit up now?
>>78801260Fauna is his oshi anon
>>78801372Anon the fliphomos are arguably worse than the nijihomos
>>78801257Nor he should, people proved over and over again that it’s not just that they don’t give a fuck about him, they don’t give a fuck about him even when he’s trying to get people to do so. It’s a lot like the town schizo trying to shout at people in the street to get their attention but the only thing he gets is that people walks faster away from him because of the stench and the nuisance.
>>78801263then what was it? I obviously dont fucking watch Ollie
>>78800581If she tries anything funny around Fauna I won't hold back with saying what I think about it to Fauna. Not this time.
>>78801120It's always funny to see how big the difference between beggars idea of Kronii and actual Kronii is
>>78801369Homobeggar deflection.
>>78801369HAHAHAHA SHE'S A SISTER TOO! YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>78801250Add Cecilia
This Gigi gaslighting is the exact same thing they tried with Biboo.
>>78799318
>>78801228Nothing really. NEVER fall for retard falsflags.
>>78801371she stopped streaming so she could focus on picking ragus' dingle berries
>>78801192You're describing Ollie. Liz is the one who hates Holos.
>>78801398Truly prophetic
>>78801134I'm very afraid of what "EN Ollie, but with a much larger following and talent and with the maturity to be meticulous and intentional" would look like in terms of the damage it could cause for the community as a whole. If my oshi gets dragged into stupid drama bullshit over this, I'll never forgive her.That being said, I won't judge or even really think about her until that moment happens. She isn't what I want to watch, and as long as that doesn't crash into what I do want to watch she can stay that way for all I care.
>>78801415come on now. at least wait until they make some tentacle rape asmr.
Do you think Liz would’ve collab with Luxiem if she debuted in 2022?
>>78801228Nothing.
>>78801325hey at least Elizabeth is actually white
>>78801101
>>78800933https://vocaroo.com/177taGVaasmE
>>78801356You better not be talking about the beloved Queen, mongoloid!
>>78801228She was the only other debut they can use to deflect
>>78801425>she spiteful she hated her fans>pay for a japan trip and a 3D live right after her surgerycognitive dissonance of a true spiteful niggerprobably mad she dropped all homofag shit
You know, since Gura and Mori had by far the most impactful debuts in EN vtubing history, maybe debuts should try to keep the most important stuff for the end in the same way they did? Like Ride on Time and RIP are the enduring impression people got from those and they were right at the end, instead of trying to front load the impressive stuff and then sort of fizzling out towards the 40~ minute mark.
>>78801465HOL UP, SHE'S PERFECT NOW
>>78801479Referencing the PM that was so bad the Queen died
>>78801415but Lukek is also a fliphomo
>>78801474CGDCT eternally mogged
Reminder: The unicorn protects and defends you from threats.
>>78801228I think the biggest critisicm was that the nerves really hit her, and that he debut puts her at 'she okay' level. It's not terrible, but there's not a lot of hype either.
The shear ecstasy from yesterday to the disappointment of today. Ahh this how being a Holofan truly feels .
>>78801325I can't... I just close my eyes and think of Shondo
>>78801409He’s an indo now
>>78801474Do we even know if that was the ennacuck or just some homofag scared that the debuts would lose to FWMC?
>>78801228nothing really. she can play the lolibaba slot if she's into it
>>78800756Are you for fucking real? She spent half her debut mentioning homos or having their drawing on stream. All while her Twitter feed is invaded by the fags. And she also plays fucking Apex/Valorant.
>>78799449Other 3 will either ask> who?or say> oh, I don't really watch them that much
>>78801481Considering all the talk surrounding Gigi's debut, you wouldn't be wrong to think that only one Holo debuted today
>>78801474I was literally shaking seeing this. In my wildest dream I still can’t believe homosister would actually employ the Nijisanji maneuver on their homo. It was the one thing they have over the Nijihomo and they threw it away
>>78801479lizzies in a box
>>78799563you mean forming cliques and bullying her by stonewalling? she may attempt
>>78801527>yesterday bronze
>>78801260Faunaschizo just hates any women he percieves as smarter then himself, and so Cecilia is German so she qualifies.
>>78801527>shearpanko.png
>>78799474Hard to say man. Mori fucking HATED doing idolshit and grew out of it, so maybe they can bond over the shared experience. Or Kiara.If those two start distancing herself from Red, then she's unsalvageable.
>>78801507Oh, I erased her from my mind. She looked great in a bikini tho
>>78800581Anon, the girls aren't dumb. If she tried to pull that shit, she's gonna get shut down hard. The only concern is her genmates but it's not a cause for concern because none of them acknowledged the homos.
>>78801527I'm sure the green doll will save it right?
>>78801527>Gigi confirmed safe>Fauna kino >Advent being based >Mori tooSkill issue
Considering pink cat is doa just for the voice it's looking grim
>>78801531He look Indian, like actually, while living in IndolandYou cannot get any further from Britain than that
>>78801325>Britbro fucking explain yourself RIGHT NOWUuuuhhh, a lot of the small corpo Brits are good.
Yesterday highlight
>>78801527I remember saying yesterday or two days ago that we may never eat this good again. Didn't think that'd end literally a day later.
>>78801603>He look IndianIf you are retarded sure, I can see how a retard thinks that he looks indian
>>78801602>Mori tooWhat?
>>78801603them lot all look like Paki anyhow
I genuinely cannot comprehend why a woman would choose to have her paycheck decreased by 10x just to play Apex with some dude ON STREAM. These bitches could’ve just never mention homos and just play with them off stream while making banks. WHY?
>>78801260>does that mean he is more saplings-anti than Fauna-anti?
>>78801601People said that about Gigi and yet people warmed up to her quick enough, don't discount the Italian Stallion
do you guys also doompost Myth Council and Advent like this?
jwu what was the reactions of the watchalongs when the red one talked about the homos?
>>78801372She gonna get a pregnancy arc like ollie too.
>>78801398Eh, Jabba doesn't really fit, not like a scantily clad Fauna strangled her, and Mori v3598428483 seems to have returned to the lightside, though acknowledges that she will never truly be able to return to the lightside.
>>78800581Justice collab is tomorrow right?She will get a chance to show what she's about.If she mentions the homos and forces the girls to talk about them, that's the end of gen unity. And that's probably the end of getting any collabs from other CGDCT holos as well.Just hope Mori or Kiara can save her from that pit.
>>78801650She got stonewalled
>>78801641You have no idea.
>>78801635>he fell for the fake schedabsolute retard
I have a theory how EN4 streaming times are laid out for the first week (speaking im CEST timezone here)2-5PM = Raora5-9PM = ERB8-11PM = Cecilia10PM - 12AM+ = Gigi
>>78801641>you guysAlso yes there was the exact same shitposting.
>>78801667I just wanted to say Jabba.
The only thing I remembered today was Advent going completely silent when homos showed up on screen. I can’t remember anything else
>>78801641Do your Council archive reps
>>78801602QDR on Mori? Agree on Fauna but that alone not enough to overcome the debuts
>>78801650https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OFWd11RsGo&t=3761s
>>78801588>1/4There's nothing to save when your new gen is only comprise of ONE (1) good members out of 4 or 5 and the other members are mediocre at best. You'd better pray that Pink Panther does well too and don't resort to the same formulaic shit. That's going to be damage control at best.
>>78801577is she pregnant?
>>78801650Silence from all of them.
>>78801635because activism brainrotthe agenda and "the cause" is more important than money
>>78801671>Just hope Mori or Kiara can save her from that pit.Kiara won't touch her if she mentions homos during any of her streams.Mori - maybe, but I don't think she cares about EN homos since dumb and dumber bailed
>>78801456I didn't say you couldn't go ballistic at that point, though I'd still do it respectfully regardless. I feel the same about her.
>>78801641Believe it or not people were more upset that Mumei joined the company back then then they were upset Liz joined the company now
>>78801686Jürgen
>>78799672Newanonchama...This war is called "invisible war" for a reason.All we will do is not watch her, and not talk about her outside of /here/. And make snide comments if she ever tries to pull an Ollie with our oshis.No one uses this lingo outside of /here/.There's hundreds of us out there with ZERO public connection to this place but all /here/ all the same.Learn to fit in.
>>78801527Anon do you have the archive to mumei last karaoke using 3d?
>>78801586One of her genmates is from the shondo circle and the other has more experience than her. Don’t know much about Gigi other than her being in a GFE corpo.
>>78801717I think they were caught off guard. Like they probably knew she liked the homos but didn't expect most all of her debut slides to feature homo art.
>>78801418The first, I think, was when she tried to set up a mario kart collab with JP members and homos without telling anyone who else was being invited. When they realized what she was doing they all bailed and did their own thing
>>78801671she'll probably be like Laplus and fucks off to flirt in valorant only to show up in events with her gen
>>78801641I only doomposted Sana(cus black holo), and I was right
https://youtu.be/KXvm_IjIbxY
>>78801738I meant in the form of trying to get her to stop pushing homos onto other girls if she does it.To teach her to respect the other girls' brands.I imagine it'll shock her to learn the first time that the "invisible gun" isn't actually a real thing and that the girls are doing this willingly
>>78801749You all act like nothing that's said here is ever read by or seen by anybody outside of here.
>>78801735>>78801724>>78801673So, are the beggar faggots going to attack them like they did fwmc
>>78800770>>78801586>>78801671Yeah maybe I'm dooming too hard and not giving the other girls enough credit, hopefully they wrangle her behind the scenes
Tomorrow debutant will mog today debut. Save this post.
>>78801743That was mad nijisisters that thought they had her tho, same as IRyS
>>78801791those are mostly schizos and SEAland
>>78801805I don't know nor do I careIt's fucking 4:30 AM I need sleep
>>78801641Shiori “Respect my collab choice” had 100 daily bait threads. These newcuties are blowing thing out of proportion. This hate is mild considering Nijisister are too busy to care abt Holo
>>78801772Laplus at least moves merch and has gotten collabs with big names. Liz won't ever be like that.
>>78801735Seconds of silence from just fwmc already enraged the beggars how the hell are they going to cope with this?
>>78801641Not really. This is the worst one by far.
So which homo will collab first with Elizabeth? My money's on the dinosaur, that faggot seems so fucking eager to get his hands on the girls and now he finally has someone that could enable him to get to the EN ones.
This thread really is just women gossiping. Where tf are the numbers?
>>78801791yeah it's a retarded cope. /vt/tubers are now meta. everything being said /here/ is content for youtube and twitter.
>doompost hours
>Favorite video game >FAGlorant>VRSHARTI literally can’t, Jap really look at this preference and goes “Yep, perfect for Hololive”
>>78801863Here's my two balls
>>78801228I think the general opinion after the debut is that she is a 5/10. Not terrible. Not very good. Exactly in the middle with potential to grow, but risks being completely forgettable. It's like movies or games, the 10/10 is a masterpiece, 1/10 might be 'so bad it's good', but 5/10 leaves no legacy in people's minds.
>>78801055Oh it's on main trending now. Wasn't it just on music before?
>>78801641I think there is a lot more genuine doomposting about it than there was for Council, though there was a lot of shitposting around council, and come on now, don't tell me you are new enough to not have lived through Advent's debut period. Myth was pretty genuinely doomposted though. The doomposting significantly decreased post-debut though, here it's the other way around.
>>78801635She wants to shlorp some homo cock
>>78801840"oh all of the mics cut out at the same time"
>>78801575her and mori getting close and quarantining themselves from the rest of hololive would be the best scenario
>>78801863Do you want to see Holostar slut btfoing unicorns that badly?
>>78800226See, the thing about war is that there are civilians. People who don't give a shit who rules over them as long as they get food, a roof and some basic shit to send their kids to school and all.On internet wars, there are no civilians. (You)r oshi will not be left alone, she will be tarred and feathered for choosing the CGDCT path.As a result Internet Wars never really "end" until one side is wiped off the site.
>>78801671Mori collabed with the dudes to help them, ERB literally drew Bettel and Flayon to add them to her debut stream. She Unironically a sisters
Sometime Holofan does seem like the consumer meme
>>78801883the requirement was someone in euro timezoneyou have no idea how hard it is to find another kiara
>>78801863
>>78801635It's even worse because most homos are shitty grifters who don't even care. Look what happened with dumb and dumber, months of nonstop shilling from Kronii and Mori and they just fucked off without telling them anything.Current homos aren't much better. They barely try and you have retards like the swagapino actively trying to antagonize the Holos and their fans.It's the equivalent of seeing some promising woman with a great career as a doctor ruin her life trying to saviorfag a crackhead who beats her.
>>78801863here's the numbers for you>lizheld 120k while having homos in the stream>gigilost some 12k during the entirety of her debut
>>78801852That's a no brainer considering they've already collabed in the past
As a Holo only god I never visited liggers thread because I hate twitch cancer culture, first time when I do I learned they have a word like we have for homobeggars but for holo. I will NEVER understand a ligger nigger mind>>78799022>I'm wielded out at how much holobegging there is for Nina, I know some shibes are holofags but feels like a weirdge thing to want
>>78801758NTA but holopirates has everything for everyone, maybe /t/ does too, I haven't checkecd
>>78801935stop taking screen shots of me
>>78801889>general opinion 5/10>Not very goodogey, these posts seem very familiar
>>78799904Beggars still have a massive wave of support despite making posts like this anon."Virtue" is the purview of the strong, they allocate vice to those under them to rule them better.
>>78801738mori still follows dumber
>>78801478cute song, nice job on the art gen
>>78801770That amogus collab was also a close call. The homos suddenly had their own thing so they couldn't participate in Ollie's amogus collab. I think IRyS was there.
Day 2 = 250k simultaneous connections
coom4moom hours
>>78801758/who/ has one but its password locked, you have to be a member to access it
so, do we go all in on green coin or skip ?
>>78801635She gonna do it her way like Suisei :)
>>78801785>I meant in the form of trying to get her to stop pushing homos onto other girls if she does it.To teach her to respect the other girls' brands.If she's a sister or an unironic holobeggar (which I think she is), nothing will change her ways. She got into hololive to change it's cuilture and she won't change - see Ollie
>>78801841Here’s the thing with Laplus, she’s a top tier entertainer and performer when she wants to be. She could’ve easily become a top tier Holo but decided to throw it all away for nothing. Liz’s only good quality seems to be her singing and voice so far.
>>78802001Chat, is this Hooman or a sister?
>>78802018Third death, rip.
>>78801952That is your post probably but still gonna say I never heard the name. Also>weirdge
>>78802001Moom is for gentle sex
https://voca.ro/1dqtWiN8i0muIn shadows deep, where Hololive lies,A fleeting star under deceitful skies.Yet UnityChad's flame shall pierce their veil,A silent force, we shall prevail."From within their walls, we'll sow discord,Their hollow reign cut by our sword.For in our hearts, a plan we weave,UnityChad's rise they won't believe.
>>78800464this is the /vt/ equivalent of a German spy saying "no don't use your tanks - tanks are so outdated nowadays"
>>78802001Roberu nnnoooooooo
>>78802027Dude when she's not doing impressions her voice is pretty bad.
>>78802027>for nothingfor BWC
>>78802008>shondo groupieLast time we got fauna so we are all selling
>>78801977>You're of the lesser gender
>>78801852It's literally just going to be her that motherfucker gets ignored by literally every other EN girl
>>78802038Coomer-cooked brain hooman, probably.
>>78802053
>>78802027>Liz’s only good quality seems to be her singing and voice so farthats like half of a vtubers appeal
>>78802072Beggars are unironic incels.
142k for Kuzuha today. You know how it goes with this sort of thing.
>>78801977Does this imply homobeggar are males?
I just hope my oshi won't collab with ERB - it's not like she's collabing left and right, but she probablty would agree if she was approached
>>78801935I mean there's literally a wall in game stores of Akihabara of "games Hololive has played recently". No one has posted the pictures in a long time though.
>>78802080This is setting up for drama, can't they learn from their most recent example of pushing holostars in EN.
>>78802052kek are we going to have duelling aislop between beggars and unicorns now?
>>78801952Oh yeah I've seen that before, idk. Surely they mean that her fanbase is begging for her to get into Holo. Because they can't mean that Hololive fans are begging for her because honestly I have no idea who Nina is, I only ever knew one Nina vtuber.
>>78802103
>>78801977>"You're of the lesser gender.">"Gynoid responses"Are they all just like this? Calling US the incels is just projecting.
>>78801994It all hinges on day 2. I believe.
Good morning, how the new Gura killer? Is she good?
>>78802169She's exists
>>78802169Holos can't be Gura killers.
>>78802154
>>78802128how do you not realize that 99% of them are men, sisters are different to homobeggars
Calling it now, Raora will be Justice's version of kronii, coombait and GFE until she gets groomed by her paypigs and then betrays them with homocollabs.
niji chingchong wave CCV predictions?
>>78799440Mori is a VCR celebrity. She's still a homocollaber, deadbeat
>>78802128A large majority of them are. Female fans are mostly stramin who just want peace.
>>78801686>too early>ERB>perfect >too lateI love dolljoints.
>>78802117nah anycolor already told kanae and hoshikawa to start running down the server and saying theyre being harassed as the bots are costing too much to get gold so it will only just beat liz
>>78802027She was starting to wane even before she dropped the mask. You need to be entertaining AND stream things that sell your charm. If Pekora, Marine, Subaru, or Suisei started an apex arc like Aqua their CCV would tank. Lap doesn't have it in her to be a gamerGOD
>>78802169She got hit with the curse that entails when calling someone a gura killer
>>78802161the funniest part about it is that leftoid sjw sisters and actual unironic incel teamed up to destroy Hololive by propping up homostars EN.
Funny
>>78802169You don’t have to give them the Gura killer curse anon, they killings themselves already
>>78801635I mean if you want to do it at least be like Kobo and go after ecelebs.
>>78802169
>>78800936history revisionist or clip watcher?
>>78802204Kobo did it successfully.
>>78802136I guess we'll see but I mean even Raora who collabed with him in the past hasn't even said anything to him
>>78802072A lot of beggars are pretty blatently misogynistic.Also a decent amount of the people who hate Unicorns do so because they are homophobic and hate the Yuri, and blame Unicorns for it.For some reason these people get a free pass by the community outside of here
>>78802207Post the new Redi's
JASTIS
>>78802128Yes, they're mostly the "self-inserters" type. They use the homos as a self-insert for them when collabing with the girls.
>>78802271define "successfully"
>>78801791>You all act like nothing that's said here is ever read by or seen by anybody outside of hereThat’s the funniest part and one of the greatest weapons of “this side”. Beggar>LOOK! LOOK! EVIL UNICORNS OVER THERE!General fanbase>I can’t see them. Are you sure they really exist?Beggar>YES THEY DO! I CAN SEE THEM ALL THE TIME!Fanbase>Can you point these “evil unicorns” to us then? Are you seeing them right now? *snickers*Beggar>THEY’RE NOT HERE NOW! THEY’RE (dramatic pause) ON 4CHAN!This is a hammed up characterization but it’s exactly what it is. People will just tell the beggar>STOP GOING TO 4CHAN THEN!and that would be it. This place is blessed because NOBODY expects anything good from it so, in a way, it is IMMUNE to criticism because the answer to any criticism is “what did you expect, it’s 4chan!”
>>78801474GODtavio, please show mercy…
>>78802225that's just a theory, a vt theory
>>78802169The REAL queen is safe
>>78802211I believe in Pink potential
>>78802287Call something negative enough with lots of buzzword and you'll be suprised how majority would lap it up as the truth.
>>78802240>they killings themselveskys ESLtard
>>78802299Is it just me or does she really resemble Botan in this pic?
>>78802287>For some reason these people get a free pass by the community outside of hereVtubers outside of weebland are treated less than human. Most people still think vtuber are balding men with voice changed
>>78802326bronze crown
>>78802326I bet she won't even feel threatened enough to overlap
>Holokek decline Mint and don’t want>Get Liz insteadLololololololo
>>78802344nah i kinda see it too
>>78801641You couldn’t post about Mumei or Fauna for weeks.
>>78802252Wasn't she Pekora killer or should have been?
>Pekora, queen of JP>Gura, queen of EN>Kobo, queen of IDBlue women are unstoppable
>>78802372>overlapping an EU genanon that means she has to wake up early and stream at noon
>>78802336>defending the homoslutKys homobeggar
>>78802312>fastest non-COVID sub growth in the entire company>on her track to be the top subbed active holomem within the next 12 months>insane music views rivalled only by suisei>collabs with top streamers in her market and appears at massively popular events>had the strongest reaction at the Taipei event>hugely successful bilibili streams>secured GENSHIN perms for hololiveWhat has Gura accomplished? A first army filled 3D live that couldn't even beat Kobo + Uproar? A sub 1 million views Loli Kami cover?
>>78802424that means she has to stream*
>>78802372All she has to do is let the EU timeslot do its work
Advent unity stream is precious
>>78802211Why are homoniggers so fucking retarded and out of touch? be happy the red cunts is giving you crumbs because that is all you will get
>>78802418...and kobo
>>78802387>Luca and Uki cocksleeveAnon…
>>78802451>secured GENSHIN perms for hololivehuh? that's a fucking new one to me
>>78802234A true match made in hell. It's like when woketards and religious nutjobs get together to go against loli stuff only to be revealed as the true pedos months later.
>>78802418kobo is no queen she loses to kaela too much
>>78802387Mint is already locked in for vshojo and Doki would rather hang around with twitch fleshies. Neither have any interest in hololive.
>>78802467NEVER ENOUGHMORE MORE MOREWE NEED MORE UNTIL HOLOEN BECOME NIJIEN
>>78802474You gonna really say This erb bitch gonna be a better hire than getting Mint???
>>78802332I don't know nothing about her, didn't bother with the thread baits. Is her CGDCT stance clear or muddy?
>>78802451>sub 2K ccv shitter>shit SCs>get mogged by one blonde turbo autist
>>78802507Thank God!
>>78802387Why would you want whores in Hololive?
>>78802211Raora is to experienced to be that dumb anon.
>>78802486It's their newest cope about the whole b2 ordeal, apparently they have perms but it HAS to be on b2, which makes it next to useless.
>>78801537she has probably replied more to the homos on twitter than she has any girl (not even just a holo)
>>78802451He actually bothered to write all this. Lol. Hololive wins, keep crying.
I HAVE SEEN GLIMPSES OF THE FUTURE
>>78802527Mint was literally part of Doki's wrestler thing that featured a bunch of homos.
>>78802544anon... you may want to sit down for this one...
>>78802486They can play it on Bilibili:D
>>78802387
>>78802299
>>78802451>What had Gura done for HololiveTaiwan Gura merch brought over 2 million in revenue. This is when she’s in sleeper mode
>>78802451>mogged day in and day out by a blonde autist
>>78802527Nobody wanna deal with the baggage of ex-nijiniggers, vshitshow is here for a reason
>>78802562Tell us
Stop replying to Ennacuck's Kobo bait you dingalings
>>78802532pretty bad RM but hasn't shown any signs of doing as such. replying to a lot of indies, presumably old friends, but no males
>>78802474Niji culture, she literally admitted post-graduation that she overwhelmingly prefers CGDCT.
>>78801537>>78802550Come on now you tards that post might as well have slapped you with a sign saying "I'M BAIT"
#news>green overtook pink
>>78802332until you hear her voice
>>78802527>unironically defending mintewwww
>>78802527Come back when Liz off collab with a homo
>>78802293
>>78802451
>>78802595I was about to say that. Whatever the fuck happened with Ironmouse to be dumped?
Don't forget, Fauna streaming the witcher later ogey.
>>78802532Predebut tweets were pretty steller
>>78802451if liz has higher ccv than kobo 1 month from now, the ID branch should be folded in
>>78802549Evidence pointing towards gayshit impact perms being exclusive to b2 is a good thing though
>>78802572>>78802549lol it's useless then. let them have the genshin slop streams i say
>>78802599I have hope since she actually deleted that one tweet people kept spamming
>>78800045Unironically this. I still hold the opinion that he's been based ever since he started dunking on collab beggars and dispelling the notion of people that only want CGDCT = unicorns but I feel like he's gone off the deep end these days. He used to mostly hold down the fort whenever beggars crossed into our lanes but nowadays I feel like he actively seeks that shit now. Maybe because idiots from /here/ kept upvoting his posts so he actively thinks of himself as a defender or some shit arguing w/ literal whos on twitter. I still remember seeing him on the fucking dota? or some games subreddit arguing with people about hololive. How the fuck does he even find the time to do this and find these posts? More than half of his replies on twitter and reddit are just arguing with people. I respect the grind but man needs to lay off the internet. Arguing this much can't be healthy lmfao.
>>78802577Doesn’t Kobo have a similar sponsorship coming? You’d be able to directly compare sales.
>>78802211>Raora>GFEYeah totally happening
>>78802567She didn’t suck Flayon cock like this ERB bitch gonna do tho. Unironically all the shitposting material about phase X Flayon went up in the air when this bitch started off with Flayon fanart
So how long until Elizabeth enables something like this?
>>78802527>would rather have certified cum guzzlerew
>>78801641the doomposting about Myth mostly came before the debutsI think everyone was actually kind of shocked at how good Myth's first impression(outside of Ame and kind of Kiara) was
>>78802625SEGSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>78802606Kronii still get hate till this day for her collabs. Imagine that but she actually off collab with a homo while cucking her audience (the two was even in the same hotel room)
>>78802625is that mumei shopped in? where did she come from
>>78802527Just cause I shit on Holos doesn't mean I'm gonna watch those rejects. Fuck off.
>>78802648Proof is in the pudding, no? What’s preventing Kobo from playing it on YouTube?
>>78802599>pretty bad RM but hasn't shown any signs of doing as such.I believe in a clean slate - as long as she'll stay CGDCT I don't care about her past. Some other Holomems also had problematic past, but they reinvented themselves in Hololive
>>78802646Eh who cares she'll gain salary from unicorn friendly girls to support her push for more homocollabs. They're all in the same box afterall and this time no longer separated by branch like ID ollie with EN.
>>78802626>can't even hit 1 million views with a cover of the most popular vtuber song in the world
>>78802627The bait simply stopped getting (You)s so he switched, as he's done many times before
>>78802617>defending a literal homo sister that had self made fanart of Bettel and flayon on her debutYeah nah fuck off lmao, mint would at least stay in her lane
>Nijisisters realize Holo vs Holo isn’t working so they shifted to targeting Ex Nijis
>>78802667Well, I'm not defending ERB but I also don't want "ERB, but slightly less bad".
>>78802682Ame had a really bad debut but made up for it with that subliminal stream.
>>78802656Anon-san, why are you replying to yourself?
>>78802654She did.
>>78802732Stop talking about yourself in the 3rd person
>>78802665looking forward to it
>>78802677>>78802689It's still insane that this actually happened.
>>78802730fuck off beggar. stop replying to me.
>>78802709This is why you stick with JP. You never have to deal with this issue because it simply isn't a thing over there.
>>78802658Not even Pekora could compete with Gura in Taiwan, how the fuck is that dung eater gonna do it??
>>78802730does her lane consist of a line of guys stroking their cocks ready for her to ingest their semen?
>>78802667Nobody even realized that it was him until anon pointed it out lol.
>>78802656He's admitted he got tired of having to play defense, just leave him be, there's no dragging a man back who's chosen to go out and die fighting, metaphorically speaking.
>>78802591Bilibili related. Wumao related.
>>78802654couldn't find it, so i'm pretty sure it's gone. I did find her tweeting at Ollie, though. So that's certainly a sign. But we need to have faith. She'd just follow ERB's example if she wanted to homocollab. I trust in pink.
>>78802758What a handsome young lad
>>78802699Not entirely sure but none of them have touched it with a 10 foot pole despite ID playing other chinks games with Wuwa.
>>78802682The Myth doomposting was thst they were going to bring twitch vtuber culture to Hololive and outside vtuber/nonvtuber grifters. Much less about unicorn shit compared to Council.
>>78802780Yes, and they're all me.
>>78802677Any Hololive girl stupid enough to let herself get dragged into something like this would deserve any scorn she earned from her own fanbase.
>>78802211>Raora will be Justice's version of kronii, coombait and GFEDon't think she'll go that way - more likely she'll try to collab with some of her indie friends in an attempt to put some eyes on them
>>78802677On the Jurard and Octavio off collab after she learns they pagpags and wants to help them incline
>>78802732Once a nijiwhore always a nijiwhore
>>78802768Be glad you weren't a Pomudachi watching it live.
What did we learn today?
Numberbros, Vesper was your greatest ally to showing the greater world just how much of an ilk homos are>>78802743
https://x.com/tubamekikuchi/status/1804395307439996977?s=46JP unicorns apparently hate justice so far
>>78801228 Her voice to me is very hard to listen, she's on par with Kiara in terms of voice for me.
Flayon drew something for erb and she responded
>>78802851that she hasn't got gold for so long
>>78802698>reinvented themselves>reinventedYou mean redeemed?
>>78802609Are you retarded? You remind me of those Nijicucks seeing a new girl debuting and thinking she won't become another onahole for Luca.
nigs running their Raora psyops again
>>78802870all unicorns do
>>78802599Ok, unless those indie friends are shit, it seems she will take the chance to start a clean new life. I will watch her debut along with miss cecilia. I'm glad I slept during the red one. I just watched gigi's debut, I think she is ok, bit nervous but let's see how she behave.
>>78802698Yep, this is exactly where I am too. If you join Hololive and fully buy into Hololive from that point forward, I'll cheer you on all the way along.If I held every girl to their roommate content or social media, I'd have missed out on a lot of great, talented members.
>>78802451All this and still can’t get 10k people to watch her stream
>>78802883where can i redeem this?
>>78802883Reinvented is a pretty appropriate word to use
>>788028513D lives doesn't mean shit if you don't stream for 2 years.
>>78802851Absolutely nothing.
>>78802851That Gura reallly is EN last stand against homo lovers and Justice will flop
>>78802870Why do you guys keep trying to drag in the whole gen because of one persons actions.
>>78802417Nijisister are simply obsessed with Pekora so they gassed her up. Only for Pekora to come back to her demise and give Salome a pay on the back
>>78802677Even though ERB's debut shocked me, I still think this was worse than anything any Holo could ever be involved in.I actually suspect managers would prevent this, on both the Stars and Hololive side, if any talent were ever dumb enough to go for that sort of thing. Brand risk.
>>78802957>Holo vs HoloI yawn
>>78800176>>78800234she actually ended up deleting her account after getting threats in her DMs from beggars sadly
>>78802875She literally a Flayon and bettel sister. She was probably in their chat posting when they had their 3D live together lmao
>>78802898should I sell? be honest.
>>78802916>I'm glad I slept during the red oneIt was the first time I got up and stopped watching during a debut. Literally just said to myself, "What I miss, I miss." Good on you for giving up hope on a lost cause like I should've.
>>78802974nijinigs gonna nijinig
>>78802344Nah the comparisons been made a lot
>>78802677>>78802980>inb4 people start saying "this would never happen in hololive!!"
How do I learn timeskip?I'm sick and tired of seeing anon moaning about the red bitch.I want my violin playing green automatonNOW.
>>78802870That account seems almost satire
>>78800556There's a reason > incel is their chosen insult for unicorns anon.They're projecting.
>>78802980They’ll think it’s a good idea until it actually hurts the homos pay, then they’ll back peddle. Management has no issue with a girl self immolating as long as others aren’t dragged in
>>78802918>If I held every girl to their roommate content or social media, I'd have missed out on a lot of great, talented members.Exactly, Hololive gives you a chance of a fresh start - take it, become CGDCT and box will embrace you. Stay a homo beggar/collaber - good luick then, you'll need a lot of it, box doesn't forgive so easily
>>78803041There's a cryo chamber over there anon
>>78802332if they sent her to vocal school for 3 months then sure
>>78802974>>78803017Could you retards actually read the tweet instead of just reading the baiter's post. Or here, even better, not care about a literal fucking who's tweet?
I'm taking the wait and see approach.
1 hour to go. Expect a gigantic funnel from Hoshikawa.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aXiSJ5G0pI
>>78802850I was. I literally closed the stream, unsubbed, then went to /hlgg/ to hint at what happened. I actually got sympathy from people there lol.
Would it even be a big deal if Liz male collab? She can’t really drag anyone else into her mess
>>78802875Where's the schedule you lazy bitch
>>78803039>slept with him for 5k yenIs that cheap or expensive, indog bro?
>>78803039>KoboNobody cares
>>78802980>>78803058let homos and ERB do that so they ultimately self destruct from their own doing
>>78800945I mean, if all you knew about streaming was from > twitchthen yeah it's quite obvious that that would be your takeaway.The problem is that these kids don't know about the wider world, so they think every other site also has the same twitch culture, so if there's anime women on youtube then they must be the boob shaking types you most see on twitch.
There's no guara tier in this gen but were the two debuts atleast were mumei tier or fuwamoco like?
>>78803091can't funnel bots
>>78803075should I sell? be honest
>>78802987Oh wow, people who paint themselves as women allies end up harassing a woman for not agreeing with their bullshit opinions. It's not like is something that happens all the fucking time.
>>78802870dam 3 likes in 3 hours. this doin numbas. the people have spoken
>>78803092>I was. I literally closed the stream, unsubbed, then went to /hlgg/ to hint at what happened. I actually got sympathy from people there lol.Condolences bro. Hope you found new oshi
>>78802883Redeem would be more appropriate for someone like Mori or Kronii if they actually got feminized and just did CGDCT
>>78802532Guess we won't know until tomorrow but seems pretty safe
>>78803100>She can’t really drag anyone else into her messYes she can, that's the problem
>>78803092From one ex-Pomudachi to another, I suppose.
>>78803113Agreed, but then again this is also begging to get Shazamposted.
There's a high chance that holoEN's debuts won't even podium today, considering the nijiJP debuts and Kuzuha will be streaming today.
Did red replied to any holo? And how many holos posted about the debut?
>>78803125Sell she can't sing in nip and that's where all the song perms are
>>78803181Yeah King has been on a roll lately
>>78802451>4k CCV average>cant sell merch or bring in SC>indog money is nonexistent >kaela beats her in almost every metric> yagoo chose the least profitable holomem to pioneer the return to B2 because theres no real loss if things go south
>>78799823Bae was NarutoERB is Boruto
>>78802609I just wanted to make the point and it was a good excuse to do so.
>>78803059It does, as long as she collabs with cgdct girls and popular ones all her misgivings would be blocked from their sight. This is Yagoo's idea for this gen different aims per talent and if one fails in their way they can ask for help from their genmates or senpais.
>>78802869I still can't believe those Vesper tier 3 members posts were actually real
>>78799838yet troons hate her.
>>78803116Eli mogs shitrys, Nerissa, Gura and Mumei at singing. I wouldn’t be surprised if she is Mori tier with her songs
>>78803213I love Fauna tho
the "oh-hohoho" shit is very cringe
>There are actual pomucucks in this thread
>>78803125If you like girls that sound like they have light version of downs syndrome then you should hold, otherwise sell
>>78803260Hello ennacuck.
>>78803119You can actually, remember the big Z yesterday when Kuzuha start stream? Viewers all woke up at the same time following Kuzuha
To the anon that ask if ennakek will bot her>78803260
>>78803260She doesn't mog Suisei and that's all that matters
She can't be savedShe really thought there's an invisible war. Why didn't no one clue in on her in the training sessions? Mori, Kronii, Bae, Zeta? The other homocollabers stopped collabing long ago.
Man, this really sucks. Things had gotten really comfy and even the staunchest pro-homo girls had seemingly turned a new leaf and embraced CGDCT...
>>78803200Ignores FWMC again and already replied to Homos. I’m not even joking when I say that she is probably one of those sisters who hate them for the silence thing
I think there's one thing people are missing with the whole> EN Olliething, is that Ollie was part of the runt branch, and STILL managed to get 1M subs off of her outside collabs.ERB is part of a mainline Hololive branch, the potential damage she can do is far bigger. Unlike Ollie where her numbers eventually became low enough she started crying, ERB will never go into 3 view territory since she's an EN.
>>78803261Me too
>>78802870>アメリア、クロニーの悲劇は繰り返してはならないIt's one of you fags shitposting in japanese.
>>78803260Welcome back, ennacuck
I don't think there's any 5 view average in this gen...
>>78803322Stop coping, she knows exactly what she is doing
>>78802013>like suiseiSo spamming business yuri?
>>78803319fortunately you can't bot SCs and merch sales
>>78803305So I should sell?
>>78803322I don't think other talents can interact with new hires during training period.
>>78803337ID is more of a mainline branch than EN. Kobo has 2 million+ subs without the COVID buff.
>>78803322Who even still regularly homocollabs? Lofi, Ollie, a few JPs?
>>78803329Those fat tits are for Holostar cock
>>78803348So like Advent?
>>78803353Ah sorry I read it as "can be saved", just woke up soz
>>78803322I swear she probably had tweeted more to this homo, than anyone else
>>78803337Why would I care about her numbers one way or another.
>>78803322>Why didn't no one clue in on her in the training sessions? Mori, Kronii, Bae, Zeta? The other homocollabers stopped collabing long ago.Anon, they probably did, but she decided to be who she is now
>>78800538This is the pertinent question.If ERB can turn of her beggarness for Justice collabs, that automatically makes her "ok", and people will still treat her in an indifferent way.If ERB goes full beggar on the first collab, then Justice AS A UNIT is DONE.^ this shit actually has potential financial consequences, so I don't think management will allow her to sabotage the other girls.
>>78803329Suisei and Ollie didn't turn shit
How did Korone react to the homo stuff?
>>78803337Ah, but here's the thing, she's a fucking yuro. She isn't in EN prime time. She absolutely has the ability to reach a low floor.
So what was the point for that big promotion for Justice?
>>78803337Oily was everyone's "EN2"
>>78803337Is Ollie got that of Hololive and Trash taste mainly. This bitch gonna have to do the same to even get close. But who knows maybe she does releases hit song and does it
>>78803407hello okbh
>>78799962160k within 3 hours is pretty good.Sub growth remains to be seen though, will depend on regular streams.
>>78803447>ignoredas a good dog would
>>78803332Fucking yikesIt's over
>>78803348I mean that comes automatically with becoming EU hours streamers
>>78803344It's obvious. Shit Japanese and following a bunch of EN corpos.
>>78803413You're right since he gets ignored by every other EN girl
wait, we have been right yet again with our predictions?is the VTuber recruitment pool really that small? fucking grim
Why couldnt we get a cute CGDCT brit like REM...https://youtu.be/r8BKhCPIHxg?t=535
>>78803413Huh unironically I feel like she really likes the guy, and since this is reality this kind of things often leads to romantic pursuit given the chance which is this chance she has right now as a hololive member.
>>78803438Onboarding her had/has financial consequences anon
Huh
>>78803337>ERB will never go into 3 view territory since she's an EN.Eh, I wouldn't be too sure about that.She'll probably stream at wearly euro hours, she wants to play FPS and she pro-homo. I think we'll see first legit 3view stream on EN from her
>>78803337>ERB will never go into 3 view territory since she's an ENWhy is this a bad thing?
Is there a posibility that okbh and homobeggars might be winning?
>>78803337>ERB will never go into 3 view territory since she's an EN.We can test it. Shiori and Nerissa can already drop as low as 2-3k with streams that aren't SC reading. There are Ame public watchalongs below 2k. ERB killing her potential day1 gives her the edge in that department, so she can drop to 3view sometimes.
>>78803447
Youre still talking about the red girl?Im sorry for your loss BAUBAU
>>78803041Just get a Stand
>>78803517For herself, not for the branch/group as a whole.
>>78803444Should've specified EN holos.
>>78797395I just want to mention that Shiori hate was already engineered by brownVTM et al. before debut. But they didn't have real juice on her so they spammed "she's boring dude like she's just gonna be so boring"The creepy collab vaguewarning just gave them the ammo they needed to convince others she is actually bad.
>>78803533yeah in every metricexcept in every metric that actually matters
>>78803502Advent vs ERB Why the hell is ERB trying to 1v 15 everyone This isn't wwe
>>78801863debut in one hourpredictions?
>>78803322The other ENs didn't get to meet any of the justice girls until the all hands last week where kronii and irys were sending shitty memes to each other. No one had the time to tell her she's going to ruin herself before things even began
>>78803337Ollie was riding the peak HoloEN and Myth era. Tons of bored tourists pouring in. That era is long gone and we see plenty of Holos do outside collabs without gaining much from them.ERB has only the homoshits who are 3view shitters. Even if she won't become a 3view herself there is no way that shit will help her.Then she'll see her genmates make bank and wonder why she's losing tens of thousands of dollar for a swagapino trying to get into her pants.
>>78803536Not as a diss to shiori and nerissa but ERB has at least some charisma
>>78803484So falseflaggers pissing all over? Is it related to unicorn kyoukai discord retardry?
>>78803522The first spike is reacting to the debut, what's the second oneV?
>>78803540LET ME CREAM HER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>78803438Considering how gen unit of Myth and CouncilRyS during the grim period still held strong (or mostly strong) then I doubt Cover will let ERB do anything funny about it. Even in ReGloss' case where they all replied to a homo at least once they never bring them up on their collabs and streams on their channel even with Ao becoming one of the biggest homo lovers in the entire company in less than 6 months.
Quick question anons is ceci body parts hot swappable? Like i can swap her upper half for big booba/ flat chest and her lower part with bushy forest or smooth yet puffy?