/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

>busy slot
Haachama 10k anyway on the tail end of the day

>>7866131
>The only vtuber related things are: Niji baseball shit, some Niji 3D shit ane another 3D but by a Holo
What killed the hype of vtubers?

>>7866131
>3 vtubers on that list
this picture is trash

>>7866294
Pandemic

>>7866131
This is a hololive without Coco Gonzalez. Watching hololive without Coco Gonzalez is like watching paint dry. A complete waste of time. No different from how Niji faggots have this weird obsession with observing golden balls. Pretty gay if you ask me.

>>7866131
Fixed today's vtuber exclusive top in accordance to https://piyo.chats.ninja/ranking/hourly/2021-08-13

>>7866374
I'm still waiting for the other ethnic groups. Indian / curry, Morrocan / taboolee, Brazilian / feijoada

>>7866311
Seriously when are we making our own numberfagging site to replace and surpass VNUMA, I'm no experienced web designer but I'm sure someone here is and I'm more than willing to help out with any grunt work or financial requirements

>>7866454
It should be easy enouh if holo and niji fags pool their resource and manpower together to create one such site, holodex for example is a good site to watch all kind vtubers. Unfortunately were too busy flinging shit at each other.

>>7866590
>, holodex for example is a good site to watch all kind vtubers. Unfortunately were too busy flinging shit at each other.
Check https://piyo.chats.ninja/

Good enough and evolving at a good pace, done by our nip numberfag mates too

>>7866374
Who wouldn't want to rail Kuzuha's succulent vampire cheeks. Spread them so wide that his manly ass cracks start bleeding. Violently tongue his booty hole. Stare at his thin lips, kiss him, and as we exchange our saliva, he bites the tip of my tongue and nourishes himself with my blood. God. Just thinking about it makes me throb solo HARD.

If I was a millionaire and my oshi is in Hololive, which is better to support her? Superchatting daily, investing in cover or buy her merch and donate them to poorfags.

>>7866414
15k only with Sykkuno and dude used L2D at that, would have been different if Sykk shilled on his twitter.
>Mousey's voice is a turn off personally, hard to get used to

>>7866131
20k viewers stream used to be a very big deal before Hololive boom, now that 20k isn't good enough anymore when their competitors on the ranking are the normie and big corporated streamers.

>>7866630
He should add more independent vtubers like Hal (and new NijiIDs)

>>7866727
Merch is the best, they take a greater cut out of merch compared to to superchats, and I'm pretty sure the money you invest in cover would just go into their projects and your oshi will see very little of it.

>>7866796
I assume it is a work in progress. I'm working on /oursite/ too but my pace is severely limited by my day job, by Haachama having returned and by eastern european alcohol habits

Holofag's oh no I thought you guys had vod views but you get mog their too.

>>7866727
Subscribe to their IPO

I have to leave this thread I'm becoming too obsessed with pointless numbers between two companies and I hate it, goodbye and have fun.
Enjoy who you like.

>>7866414
>Leos 31k
Means he finally did his re-debut and enabled superchats?
>>$54,893
Yup

holocope

>>7866414
hey didnt some anon say on a previous thread that this site included the Vshojos and indies? It doesn't show either for me, do I have to toggle something on the settings?

Nijiseethe

indielate

Holorope

Project cope

Niggersanji

Holobronies

Nijiniggers

Holo-lies

>>7866974
Not yet. The support for Twitch and Twitcast will be added later. I've just left all Twitch numbers the same (aside from Pekora's since they were on yesterday's ikioi top)

>>7866937
Wasn't that great of an effect though now we've seen Lauren getting $59k on his monetization stream though. $52k is still good anyway.

Nijizhangs

Holosharts

>>7867280
Please no speaking of fact, you broke the thread

>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 10 hours
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 39 hours
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 45 hours
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2 Days (17h 0m)
Can You Do the Hololive? (All members) - 3 Days
Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 3 Days
GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4 Days (1h 45m)
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5 Days
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 5 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 5 Days
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5 Days
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6 Days
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 6 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6 Days (18h 37m)
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8 Days (17h 6m)
Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8 days (18h 0m)
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9 Days (13h 54m)
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 10 Days
Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 10 days
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10 Days (3h 37m)
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 11 Days
Envy Baby (Mori Calliope) - 11 Days (21h 3m) **NEW**
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 13 Days
Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 13 Days
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14 Days
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 15 Days
Take Me Home, Country Roads (HoloEN) - 15 Days
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 15 Days
Shitsuraku Petri (Nekomata Okayu) - 16 Days
Shoujo Rei (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 16 Days (2h 21m) **NEW**
KING (Pavolia Reine) - 17 Days
Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17 Days (0h 14m)
KING (Murasaki Shion) - 19 Days
Envy Baby (Omaru Polka) - 19 Days
Usseewa (Murasaki Shion) - 20 Days
VILLAIN (Moona Hoshinova) - 20 Days
Aikotoba III (Kiara and Gura) - 21 Days
FLOS (Nekomata Okayu) - 21 Days
Ranbu no Melody (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 21 Days
RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 23 Days
HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23 Days
p.h. (Nekomata Okayu) - 24 Days (19h 25m)
SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24 Days (19h 49m)
Alice in N.Y (Sora, Kanata, Suisei, Marine, Flare) - 28 Days
Vampire (Omaru Polka) - 28 Days
KING (Tokoyami Towa) - 28 Days
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 29 Days
Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30 Days

>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 10 hours
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 39 hours **NEW**
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 45 hours
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days (0h 26m)
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days (14h 51m)
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2 Days (17h 0m)
Can You Do the Hololive? (All members) - 3 Days
Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 3 Days
GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4 Days (1h 45m)
RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5 Days
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 5 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 5 Days
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5 Days
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6 Days
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 6 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6 Days (18h 37m)
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days
Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8 Days (17h 6m)
Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8 days (18h 0m)
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9 Days (13h 54m)
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 10 Days
Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 10 days
Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10 Days (3h 37m)
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 11 Days
Envy Baby (Mori Calliope) - 11 Days (21h 3m)
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 13 Days
Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 13 Days
Live Again (Mori Calliope) - 14 Days
Ahoy (Houshou Marine) - 15 Days
Take Me Home, Country Roads (HoloEN) - 15 Days
Palette (Tokoyami Towa) - 15 Days
Shitsuraku Petri (Nekomata Okayu) - 16 Days
Shoujo Rei (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 16 Days (2h 21m)
KING (Pavolia Reine) - 17 Days
Weather Hackers (Kiryu Coco) - 17 Days (0h 14m)
KING (Murasaki Shion) - 19 Days
Envy Baby (Omaru Polka) - 19 Days
Usseewa (Murasaki Shion) - 20 Days
VILLAIN (Moona Hoshinova) - 20 Days
Aikotoba III (Kiara and Gura) - 21 Days
FLOS (Nekomata Okayu) - 21 Days
Ranbu no Melody (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 21 Days
RED HEART (Akai Haato) - 23 Days
HINOTORI (Takanashi Kiara) - 23 Days
p.h. (Nekomata Okayu) - 24 Days (19h 25m)
SPARKS (Takanashi Kiara - 24 Days (19h 49m)
Alice in N.Y (Sora, Kanata, Suisei, Marine, Flare) - 28 Days
Vampire (Omaru Polka) - 28 Days
KING (Tokoyami Towa) - 28 Days
Cursed Night (Mori Calliope) - 29 Days
Plasmagic Seasons (1st Gen) - 30 Days

>>7867263
Still the second highest earning monetization stream ever and 16th highest of any vtuber stream in general. The bar has been raised by a lot recently but that's still an impressive figure

Miko's Eva watchalong peeked at 10k The Eva premiere buff is strong.

>>7867713
>Miko's Eva watchalong peeked at 10k
Link? Was it on twitch?

>>7867831
Yeah, it just ended. Post-talk at the moment.
https://www.twitch.tv/sakuramiko_hololive

>>7866641
(YOU)

Shouldn’t Gura test out a Twitch stream to gauge numbers? Even though it somewhat separates her from most other Hololive streamers, Gura has always been somewhat solo anyway.

>>7866641
rindou mikoto plz go to sleep

>>7867514
o nicely done senchou

>>7867713
It was the first thing that I could actually join the watch party with as a burger. Was fun.

Miko and Haachama GTA collab tomorrow, prediction?

>>7866852
Thake in consideration Vnuma ranked EVERYONE, even the most bottom of the barrel vtuber, on it's realtime chart.
How it did it, idk but it was really helpfull.

>>7868848
Miko - 22k
Haachama - 12k
Assuming no on else joins them and there aren't too many other people streaming..

>>7869127
Was it? Doesn't look like this thread is interested in bottom numbers (unless they're holo related)

>>7868848
Source?

>>7866421
>I'm still waiting for the other ethnic groups. Indian / curry, Morrocan / taboolee, Brazilian / feijoada

>>7869338

>>7869338
Miko's Evangelion watchalong aftertalk

>>7866414
based PekoMiko, not allowing spic vtubers to take over the Twitch vtubers scene

>THERE ARE NIJIS IN THIS VERY THREAD WHOSE OSHI HAS FEWER SUBS THAN AZKi
EXPLAIN YOURSELVES!
(inb4 subjective cope)

Mori's DEAD BEATS surpassed 10M . The first vtuber having 2 originals over 10M.
(3rd if you count cover song 1.HIMEHINA 2.Hololive channel)

>>7869942
Congrats, deadbeat.

>>7869991
Suisei probably is the next, both NCP and Tenkyuu are over 9M

>>7869942
well technically Marine already had two 10M (the two versions of Ahoy!)

>>7870021
Marine is doing really well with songs

>>7869942
Really RIM doesn't have anything else over 10m despite having the original with the highest views?

>>7870021
Speaking of Topic channel, Live Again surpassed 10M if two versions combined together.

>>7870088
Yes, Kaf is the closest KAMITSUBAKI talent. 12.7M and 7.2M (original)

>>7869918
I have no explanation other than my oshi gets more live views than her

>>7870088
The song she has with 30m views was a meme on tiktok. That is why its viewership is so high.

>>7870490
How long ago was it a meme? It's still getting 200k+ views every week.

>>7869918
doesn't matter because i will SAVE him

Do you think hololive has hit its peak of viewership? Do you think a hololive es might bring in a large audience? Perhaps a full fledge anime is the next step? The numbers keep going down, even for 3D events, probably due to the fact of how common they became and it's always a concert. Hololive could use more content like Marine's show

>>7872310
The Q&A blog thread is down and to the left. Post numbers or GTFO

lol this thread is really clean rn, it really was just one schizo after all

>>7872879
Numberfags are all chads IRL, they’re all clubbing in this blessed Friday night all across the timezones

She’s a guaranteed 10k+ streamer now, isn’t she?

Also: her fanbase is the most passionate and faithful of all EN, they’re Haaton level of talented and nousagi level of passionate.
That Times Square stunt is still unmatched for EN

How would you all predict an EN's vtuber debut and arrange their schedule to get the largest numbers of views/fans? If one of them is a professional gamer (I hope they get one), I'd optimize it by having them play challenges like speedruns/endurances for the most effect on a first impression, some chill streams, fan interactions in the middle then end it with a karaoke and EN collab.

>Day 1 - Debut day (70-85k)
>Day 2 - Any successful speedrun less than 2 hours (30-40k)
>Day 3 - Apex Endurance (Rank up to Master) (20k-25k) (Gotta grind a new account to Diamond 1 before debut)
>Day 4 - Drawing + QnA Marshmallow (10-15k)
>Day 5 - Mario Kart Challenge with fans (EN/JP) (10-20k)
>Day 6 - Unarchive Karaoke (30-40k) (Fuck your archived)
>Day 7 - EN collab with genmates (20-40k)

Leos and Irys presented a good case study on what to do and what not to do during debut week to get as many numbers in this stage. Hope JP 6 and EN 2 would replicate the good ones.

>>7873196
Until she starts playing debuff stuff again like Wonderful 101 and Paper Mario, yes.

>>7873327
If Leos was trying to numberfag, he's not doing a good job of it. Not riding the success of his pseudo RTA/challenge streams in the beginning, zatsudans with no topic, waiting so long for memberships, etc.

>>7870676
July last year.

>>7873442
I'd give him credit on doing an endurance though on a beloved old JP game getting 50k+ live views.

>>7873196
Wanna know Ina's secret?
She's a weeb's wet dream.
She has the most Goslings by far who will watch whenever she streams.
Check this article out
https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/okcupid/themathematicsofbeauty.html

Everytime some anon calls Ina boring is only making another anon fall deeper in love.

>>7873621
Definitely, and he got a nice amount of sc/members for his membership unveiling. I checked his twitter and he's going back to GnG soon, endurance stream on Saturday. But the time for people appreciating his strange first game choice is gone because any onlookers who were watching for his gameplay & announcer commentary, have left after low energy HC Minecraft

>>7873820
Ina is the ideal otaku wife. Smart, attentive, quiet, watch anime and make puns. She has the highest chance to make you hot food after you come back home from work whereas Mori would be too busy with work, Kiara would be readying up to meet up with her friends, Gura would be stuck sleeping and only waking up from the sound of you coming back home and Ame would be gaming in the living room forgetting to eat. Non-numbers, but Ina gets all the loyal fans.

>>7873820
>>7873915
>delusion about an anime girl cooking for you, and 3DPD psychology posting
are you motherfuckers lost

Are all number threads like this?

>>7874010
You mean occupied by mobileposters like you?
Yes

>>7873327
Very nice prediction, but I fear that Holo stopped looking for talented people.
Judging by "VSinger's" singing abilities, I think Holo's "VGamer" would be around low-platinum in Apex.

>>7874065
I’m taking a shit while visiting the numbers thread, calm your tits

>>7874010
that guy >>7867423 got some vacations in the end

>>7873993
>delusion about an anime girl cooking for you
Anon, plz
>HIS OSHI DOESN’T EVEN COOK
HAHAHA, WHO GOT THE LAST LAUGH, HUH?
>W-WELL?

>>7873993
yes

>>7874068
IRyS's buff is that she's a good singer, not the best but she's also buffed on the fact that she could speak fluently in JP and lives in Japan. They don't need too talented of a person, they just need ones that are competent and reliable with a good CV in content creation. Also, they need a retired pro gamer that loves Hololive for EN 2.

Ina has 22,207 votes on her live poll at the moment on stream with 11,352 viewers. Is youtube just bizarre or are 10k people coming in at random and voting then leaving over the course of the hour that the poll has been up?

This thread needs some historical numbers to get it back on track, so here's a timeline of the most superchatted vtuber streams ever at the time from 2018 to today
>$15,906 - Tsukino Mito monetization (05/01/18)
>$21,879 - Kagura Mea 1st anniversary (06/27/19)
>$31,834 - Kuzuha 100k subs celebration (07/01/19)
>$37,530 - Otogibara Era 3D debut (01/07/20)
>$52,158 - Kiryu Coco monetization (02/11/20)
>$61,852 - Kusunoki Sio 3D debut (06/19/20)
>$95,310 - Kagami Hayato 3D debut (08/10/20)
>$147,612 - Fuwa Minato 3D debut (06/04/21)
>$306,442 - Kiryu Coco graduation (07/01/21)

>>7874677
This is normal, every stream with a poll I have been on has double the number of voters as the number of viewers within minutes of posting the poll, this is consistent across NijiEN, HoloEN, NijiJP, and HoloJP.

>>7874712
Wow Lauren beat Coco's monetization stream with his own. Did she do anything special for hers?

>>7874712
>Kagura Mea
Oh how the old has fallen because they pander to the mainland chinks

>$52,158 - Kiryu Coco monetization (02/11/20)
Is this supposed to be 19? Why would she have monetization after the chink out?

>>7874777
Don't think so but Lauren was pretty entertaining during her monetization stream.

>>7874951
not him, but it is clearly month/day/year

>>7874976
Oh, I didn't see the other numbers.

>>7874746
>>7874677
I've noticed some poll numbers don't match up to live view counts very well. In one of Pekora's recent FF7 streams, she ran a poll that garnered 13k votes in a 27k viewer pool. There's a lot of discrepancies between EN and JP numbers that are a little hard to explain.

>>7874712
That's a massive number for Coco.
Judging by previous growth, I predict that this number will be beaten only in mid 2022 if nothing big happens before that.
Most likely it'll be Niji member to set new record, just because they tend to donate more on big events than Holo (well, except for graduations).

>>7875053
Well, not everybody will participate in polls, plus there are a lot of lurkers out there and a lot of non-japanese speaking people, who didn't have a clue about poll.

But despite all above stated, Pekora's numbers are very sussy for me, especially after she lost 20k viewers on average after december's youtube bot cleaning.

Good numbers, great retention

>>7875783
And also a perfect thumbnail. Big lettering, focused on the topic in an unmistakable way even in small sizes.

I can’t stop kneeling to her number acquiring prowess

>>7875783
Ina is the ideal EN to be quite frank, thankfully nijiEN has this quality too, yes even Petra as she’s growing out of her shell.

>>7875863
I think Petra's problem is that she still didn't find her own path. She tried to do what everybody else does, to follow her genmates and it failed miserably.

Once she realizes that and finds her path, she'll be on a quick way to success.

>>7875863
How did Petra's collab with the Indo penguin do number-wise?

>>7876084
Slightly worse than the usual numbers she gets on that 8 AM EDT slot, peaked early at 1k and then was around 900 for the rest of the stream, usually she maintains 1k+ when doing an EN stream at that time, and much higher for a JP stream. It was a bigger stream for Cia, got 500+ when her usual peaks are in the 200-300 range

>>7876084
For Petra - below her regular average viewers.
At the beginning it was above 1k, then it slid under.
For Amicia (Indo penguin) - she had a more than double of her regular average viewers.
So yeah, Petra is still not ready for collabs, she must bring her shit together.

>>7874712
>>7874777
The craziest outlier for monetization streams is Mito's all the way back in 2018, until Eden-gumi all got monetized and beat it, it was still in the top 10 highest ever, and it's still her most earning stream to this day

>>7874712
basically if your oshi isn't in this list shut the fuck up

These 3 has a lot of endurance playing this kinda of games.

>>7876818
Leave Hajime alone...

>>7876848
Are you one of the 128th people watching him right now kek

>>7876818
What does the hajime part mean

>>7876818
It's almost 8am in Japan so it means Axia and Levi pulled all nighters. Damn, I just said it's an all-nighter, but Levi doesn't even have 1000. I remember during her 3D debut, we were speculating if she would incline after since it was a good 3D debut with 55k viewers. Apparently it's not much of an incline, which is sad.

Selen's Apex stream actually peaked at 4k today. Call it bad timeslot, debut buff running out... etc, but I'm not sure if she can get 5k+ on Apex like she did in her first 2 weeks anymore. 4k is still easily the best numbers in NijiEN, especially NijiEN2.

And kek Hajime. The legend.

>>7876883
League? I'd rather castrate myself. I show up to some of his zatsudans though.

Baseball is truly /numbers/ the game
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GDjfc4BEokhPYz7ZasHJ5wlXhOoyMygcXvLNYtYoAGk/edit#gid=1876504581

>>7866131
>today is a Saturday in JP
>Kuzuha is playing
if he makes the finals you'll see some insane figures.

>>7866414
>shark 14k
>with gartic phone
what happened?

Best time to hit 150k

>>7878453
6 split POVs + one of those was an actual professional artist

>>7878397
Apparently, it doesn't matter. Everyone is playing in the finals. The last 2 places of both groups play vs each other too for 5th,6th,7th,8th.

>>7878533
still 150k on a workday afternoon is a lot, and that's without Kuzuha. Weekend will be big.

>>7878533
>finals
>everybody plays
lol

>>7878571
They are 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th place deciding matches

>>7878642
there is only one winner, and that's the 1st

>>7878453
It was 2 hours before Gura's usual time and she usually gets like 17-18k in that timeslot solo anyways. The most obvious possible reason is it's a drawing game so people naturally flock to Ina, who is easily the best artist. Could be that Gura's livewatching audience is made up of a lot of fans of the other HoloEN girls so they go to their oshis during group collabs, but recent minecraft collabs like the Enderdragon one show that she can still get her usual numbers.

Gura's collab do suspiciously get worse numbers than her solo streams tho. I kinda wish she'll ask during a membership stream if they don't like her collabing or something lol.

>>7878570
According to yesterday's thread, it's obon week in Japan, so it's either a holiday or people use their vacation days this week. Essentially, it was a holiday yesterday. The only reason why people downplay the 147k Koshien Group A got is because they got 150k last year. People expected a bigger increase since the Koshien Draft increased by 30k.
Today will very likely get higher than 147k tho because the projected winner and Kuzuha are playing today.

>>7878909
It not only started earlier this time due to having more games and thus also running longer but youtube shat itself so much the viewcount went from 140k to 80k in minutes and they had to restart OBS to fix the stream. If they don't have any technical issues today it will be bigger.

>>7876818
Do people really just watch Axia riding a bicycle all night

>>7878909
B league is definitely having higher number, but I doubt the difference will be that much. Maybe something like 160k but I'd love to be proven wrong.

>>7879133
Yes. Me.

>>7878533
Is there a reason why they don't just calculate the top 4 only meaning the ones who lost on the first round doesn't play anymore and not calculate the rest? I mean, why 5-8th place?

>>7876818
is shibuya hajime beyond saving?

>>7879133
>Maybe something like 160k but I'd love to be proven wrong
My prediction - peak at 183k.

>>7879404
they just want to milk it to the max

>>7879506
What is there to save? He is but a lone knight. He absorbs every evil in Niji and save others from antis.

>>7879666
Just need a moment really, i mean Gwelu can be saved.

>>7879666
many are still beyond his reach
he should play some apex tournaments. kill jun and holos and make some offensive remarks.

>>7879639
Exactly. It's all just business.
That's exactly the same reason why Hololive loves to spread their debuts for many days instead of debuting in one day. That way they can milk fans during a streak of anniversaries instead of doing single anniversary collab.

>>7879404
Well the tournament is for fun and it's not very fun for 4 of the participants if they don't get to play anymore after losing.

From a content perspective, they can make more content with more games and stretch the event out more. If you've been following the streams around the Koshien event, there's so much supplementary content, like highlight reels, interviews, previews, team analysis streams...etc. They want these 3 days to be as big as possible.

>>7879967
that's their loss, I never stay for long too long

>>7879506
>saving
He got invited to Shizurin's 3D live event at an IRL venue, showcases indies to his audience that is half consisted of hatewatchers so they find someone interesting to watch instead of stalking him, flexes his personal wealth unprompted, and streams whatever he wants regardless of numbers. Why would he need saving?

>>7879990
Plus, if losers weren't able to play, fans of the livers in the loser teams would miss out on funny interactions like Leos knocking the shit out of Uiha.

>>7878355
Of course it is. It's way more complex than any other popular team sport, all of which can be summed up as 'move object from one side to the other and place it in in specific area to score a point'

>>7879990
>>7879967
>>7880193
baseball is not fun, they should just cut it to the essentials, the games that actually mean something.

>>7879990
Wew. Well, anyway, as per tradition 170-190k today. Tomorrow 200-230k. Usaken had more than 200k+ too. So both companies can actually gather a lot of people.

>>7880391
IMHO, all sports games should be dumb and simple, and baseball is just overcomplicated.

>>7880474
Good thing no one will ever listen to you.

>>7880309
does this mean he will get a 3d debut soon? kek, would be fun to numberfag that

>>7880517
>Usaken had more than 200k+ too
On which channel?

>>7880716
combined, just search the archives before starting a new time loop

>>7880707
I hope he gets 100k just from the meme potential. From 100 viewers to 100k for one night. Get every big Niji to show up in his stream and make it a pseudo-Nijifes concert.

>>7878742
Gura is streaming NA prime time right now with Minecraft and is sitting at 15k. Shes reclining incredibly hard.

>>7880785
Ah, ok, thanks.

>>7880716
Split POVs post December update. Given that evidence strongly indicates that only the active tab counts towards viewcounts post-spamviewfilter update, adding CCV across all streams at the same time is probably an accurate enough count of total viewers across all channels for an event (Since youtube refuses to clarify, I understand there's room for doubt on this)
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/S630gqcJ0CQ
Ina started climbing as soon as she said she found an end-city. I suspect it was a lot of tabbed out viewers switching it to main view to see if she would find an Elytra because it was pretty steady up until that point (peak of 14k).

>>7880707
List of those who hit 100k
20/02/16 - Shellin Burgundy (on hold)
20/03/07 - Amemori Sayo (on hold...)
20/04/01 - Kuroi Shiba (on hold)
20/04/12 - Hayama Marin
20/04/22 - Furen E Lustario
20/04/28 - Ibrahim (done)
20/05/03 - Mashiro (done)
20/05/13 - Levi Elipha (done)
20/05/16 - Melissa Kinrenka
20/05/17 - Machita Chima (done)
20/05/19 - Hayase Sou
20/06/18 - Akabane Youko (done)
20/06/20 - Eli Connifer
20/06/30 - Naraka
20/07/05 - Matsukai Mao
20/07/12 - Luis Cammy
20/08/05 - Fumi
20/08/23 - Shibuya Hajime
20/09/11 - Yukishiro Mahiro
20/09/19 - Onomachi Haruka
20/09/19 - Nishizono Chigusa
20/09/21 - Suzuki Masaru
20/09/25 - Gwelu Os Gar
20/09/27 - Nagao Kei
20/10/17 - Fushimi Gaku
Gwelu and Gaku have said they're doing their 3Ds at the end of the year so I stopped there. So if things go okay he may have it this year. He won't be the only person with a 3D and no debut yet, Shellin for example.

>>7880914
look like it's wake up time at SEA already

>>7881007
We don't do that here. Save the cope for the generals.

>>7881114
>we

>>7880995
Furen too, god I hope she gets hers soon

>>7880995
who from that list can break 100k? aside from gwelu, he probably will.

>>7880790
He won’t.

>>7881222
None

>>7881222
Closest I can think is Gaku since people will expect him to bring on his friends like Kenmochi and those sorts of 3D debuts do well. But I don't think he'll hit 100k.
Gwelu? Possibly. And if he doesn't, Fuwa Minato will personally bot the stream so he does.

>>7881222
Gwelu won't, he pretty niche but if he can break it then its good. Shellin can break 100k.

>>7881202
Didn't Melissa also show up on NijiFes in 3d?

>>7881355
I forgot kaida too. Thats the 2 guaranteed 100k

>>7881355
Since Shellin's debut will be happening after his 3D show in September since he's busy with it I think so too.

>>7881386
Melissa, Furen, Marin, Masaru, Shellin, & hajime have their 3D model done. The first 4 showed their 3D in nijifes, Shellin in memeshikute, Hajime is 1st gen and all first gen have 3D model since long time ago.

>>7881222
None of them really, Gwelu, Gaku, Sheillin, and Furen are the most popular of them, but I don't really see any of them hitting 100k unless it's full of collabs.

Melissa, Ran-nee, and Chigusa have the good singer buff, but I doubt they go much higher than Chima's 73k peak.

>>7881463
What's his deal?

>>7881665
>all first gen have 3D model since long time ago.
Do you have a source

>>7881743
NTA, but he's a Nijimale that's a good singer and gets pretty good numbers for a relatively new Niji. If he gets good guests, 100k is possible.

>>7881856
According to Playboard his highest live viewers was barely 24k and that was in 2020, Idk if he can get 100k.

>>7882046
As the one who suggested that Nene's 3D anniversary might have a chance at surpassing Akabane's 3D debut last night and regretted it, I'm never underestimating a Niji 3D debut again. I'm just gonna assume anyone decently popular in Niji will get somewhere close to 100k.

Today's superchats, Playboard hasn't managed to update Akabane's 3D debut yet so she's missing but according to the Niji numberfag Twitter she made $10,705 and should be at #4

>>7882145
Leos with the best debut and redebut ever

>>7882145
Axia and Lauren kings of doing literally nothing and making money

>>7882858
But riding a bicycle for 12 hours straight and losing to rng is doing something

>>7882128
Though I wouldn’t say he’s a nobody Kaida’s not really that popular or watched, definitely not close to Ibrahim’s level. And he doesn’t hit a very wide range of viewer demographics or have much viewer overlap with other members. 100k is honestly huge in the scheme of things, quality or gimmick of the debut itself doesn’t factor in more than popularity of the person does and you shouldn’t really expect anyone’s to reach it at this point

>>7883919
>you shouldn’t really expect anyone’s to reach it at this point
Until the distant future when the new wave that just debuted start getting theirs

>>7884472
Yeah I meant those in that post

>>7884472
The new wave? The wave that has massively reclined and can't even hit 5k viewership now? I highly doubt that.

>>7884904
Maybe it’s just still the debut buff I’m looking at it with but I think Leos and Lauren could even if they’ve made an expected decline since their debut, they seem to have the potential to maintain a decently sized fanbase and become well liked among other viewers

>>7885133
I highly doubt it. Both have proven to be terrible and boring streamers along with the rest of the wave. A massive flop all around.

>>7885219
>boring streamer
Thought that was Irys

It’s pretty funny when you’re having a normal conversation and then some shitposter comes in to try to wreck it, just because he’s starved for attention

>>7884904
Average viewerbase isn't that good of a predictor for Niji 3D debuts, Fuwa and Ib weren't crazy numbers-wise and still got 100k+. Lauren and Leos can still get 10k+ doing their best content streams. 5k is above average for Niji anyways.

>>7885219
>Both have proven to be terrible and boring streamers along with the rest of the wave. A massive flop all around.
You have to at least pretend you aren't completely retarded if you want to bait some of (you)s.

>>7884904
The 3d waitlist is long, Eden basically have 1 year to naturally incline until their debut. Anything can happen and Oliver is the only one that I'm sure will stay more niche.
Remember that Ibrahim's viewership is just around 5k~7k when he isn't doing anything special.

>>7885424
Isn't 5k above average for Holo too? I remember somebody posted the median live viewers for Holo.
I seem to recall 5k because Kiara's average was around 4k and was the only HoloEN below the median

>>7885500
>1 year to naturally incline
They are already massively reclining though. They are being rejected.

>>7885538
According to the list posted that you are referencing the Holo average was like 6550.

>>7885219
>>7885544
SEA just woke up

>>7885586
Thanks for the reminder

The VOD just became unprivated again after removing the scuff (so no chat replay) and damn those VOD views

We have the numbers posted here. A year ago, getting 1mil+ yen in a stream was crazy. Now it's expected in 3D streams/etc even for those deemed literal whos in Nijisanji. Lauren looks like he's secured his side of gachis already, and the debut buff everyone was screaming about has basically worn off.

>>7886065
The power of a 5 hour stream with consistent 120-130k viewers. People probably refreshed like crazy during the lag and scuff too.

>>7886368
> People probably refreshed like crazy during the lag and scuff too.
That does something?

>>7885219
You are confusing Leos/Lauren with Irys, common mistake

Look at how much Leos made today for example.

>>7886421
Yea, each time you watch more than 30 secs, leave, and come back to watch more it's counted as a unique VOD view. This is why long streams with high churn generate high VOD views.

>>7886491
If that’s really the case then people who watch on mobile must generate a lot since they probably close the video more. Do you have a source?

>>7886614
https://www.tubics.com/blog/what-counts-as-a-view-on-youtube/

>>7886614
It only does it up to 5 times a day
https://www.tubics.com/blog/what-counts-as-a-view-on-youtube/

>>7886459
Lets not continue the tribalfagging as the thread is mostly peaceful for once mods giving longer bans for roommate posting I bet

>>7886702
I like Pekora, I like Leos, not tribal at all just correcting people who are clearly wrong.

is this going on hololive weekly ranking bros?

>>7885424
If red is S-tier, those 3 guys are A-tier Nijis.

>Top 5 Niji3D peak views
Fuwa Minato 144,128
Kagami Hayato 132,381
Debidebi Debiru 119,092
Ibrahim 117,475
Hoshikawa Sara 86,419

>>7887083
Debi feels like the kind who is widely known and loved and gets a lot of traction from projects or events but whose normal streams don’t garner as much attention

>>7887083
Do you know when this image was updated? Some numbers look kinda outdated. But yea I'm quite convinced Debi's 3D debut got 100k because people were curious as fuck about how the 3D tracking would look like. Getting Korone as a guest helps too.

The main takeaway from Fuwa and Kagami's 3D debuts imo is that they're both part of the popular group of males and best singers so they put on a hype concert. The superchats correlate with the hype too.

>>7887389
it was also the first non human like 3D too so people were curious.

>>7887528
Just going by Sayo being there, it's May and June respectively

>>7887083
Ah Naru, poor Naru. i remember when Towa was the lowest performing holo last year and I tried comparing her to Naru. Those shitposts were fun. Shows the true gulf between niji and holo.

>>7887528
April (left) and May (right).
Heres their 2021 numbers.

Koshien game B has more people waiting than yesterday. its at 15k now

>>7888105
>Ibrahim 20k in July
Minecraft poggers

Man this Koshien game B is actually going to break 200k that fucking crazy.

>>7888105
what'd fuwa do in february

>>7888433
Pokemon

>>7887047
She needs 70k views to enter ranking. And the weekly ranking doesn't count songs younger than 3 days, so she has another 7 days to accumulate more views. This is also her first cover. A lot of buffs to make it into the ranking.

>>7888408
the peak will be Haruna vs Hayato game.

>>7888331
Minecraft + his 3D debut stream

>>7888433
Vod reps

Tell me who plays first because I'll be skipping the first hour because of IRyS stream. Gonna be busy a bit.

>>7886459
i think the 3 of them are on the same boat these 3 latest normals ohave been udnerwhleming numebrwise.
Lauren will be sub5k and leo will only ave numebrs on specific callenges

>>7880995
He has already hinted about something happening this October/November

>>7888865
First is the non-Kuzuha male vs Gyaru.

>>7888865
Hayato vs Rion meh easy skip game will be one-sided.

>>7889185
>>7889206
Nice skippable game

>>7889185
Rion about to get dicked hard by the perfect male specimen on stream

Rion is already getting raped, gonna be good

It passed the first 10 minutes at least

165k peak on Kuzuha Vs Haruka
160k peak on Kuzuha Vs Kagami
155k peak on Haruka Vs Kagami

>>7890746
Lower anon….

>>7876523
I'd say that Sio's is a significant outlier, taking the record as an indie when the corporate vtubing monopoly was already well and truly established is no mean feat. Come back, fat ass.

This upcoming game will probably be the first and only time Haruka mogs Kuzuha in anything

Yep Kuzuha's getting mogged hard

Kek, this aint getting 160k Kuzushit is getting mogged

Why are the stats for Kuzuha's players so bad?

>>7890746
Is there a reason for nips to wait till finals to watch the games and get the highest peak? I mean, I don't understand why would there be a burst of 50k viewers last year for finals compared to game A and B peak. It's the weekend, they could just watch it now.

>>7891467
Apex and Pokemon Unite with the bros are more fun than Powerpro

>>7891479
Correct me if I'm wrong, but last year's finals was supposedly very close and Shiina had a massive narrative going for her since she didn't know anything about baseball before joining the tournament(?). Not sure if there's a similar thing for this year, but they have Kuzuha.

>>7891272
Or maybe not

>>7891663
Protagonist buff doing wonders for Kuzuha rn. Amazing to watch in real time.

>>7891587
I don't watch last year's Koshien so I don't know what's going on it. Shiina's narrative could be the driving force since the it's the first Koshien after all. But, this year seems it's going to be a snowball from Haruka or Shiina. Everyone else is getting trashed left and right, match predictions made by people was right. So this is the only chance Kuzuha is gonna fight the top 2 hopefuls in the match. I'm certain he'd gets high numbers for his games but I don't get why nips are being reserved at the moment. They could just peak 180k now then 220k tomorrow for finals since it's the weekend.

>>7892035
Last year wasn't the first Koshien, there was one the year before where even Subaru from Hololive took part

>>7892035
if he somehow wins now i can see 175k on his hayato game

>>7891587
>she didn't know anything about baseball before joining the tournament
The fuck are you on? She's one of founders of the whole Vtuber Koshien together with Tenkaiji.

>>7892129
I put a question mark there since I was just repeating hearsay I read from somewhere. If you know more about the subject, feel free to elaborate.

>>7892081
Oh I thought last year was the first one

>>7892087
It'd be funny if he took out Haruka of all things honestly. Kaede would get a free trip to 1st.

>>7892217
>Kaede would get a free trip to 1st.
Shiina is actually first seed from Group A. Saku is 2nd. Deron is 3rd,

>>7892259
Shit oh yeah Shiina. It was Haruka, Shiina and Kagami.

It's 165k so far halfway into Kuzuha vs Haruka. Probably a closer match than most would've expected.

>>7890746
based

>>7892087
kek

>171k
it is a great game though

So there is no doubt that Ina is second most popular to Gura in Holo EN.

>>7892697
Way closer than anyone was expecting. Haruka barely scraped through.

>>7892760
Kuzuha and Kagami might be fighting to advance, that should be fun.

>>7892730
Yes, unlike the others, Ina cultivated fans in a consistent timeslot for months already. Gura needs to stream at 9AM JST from now on.

>>7892697
Funny game. Haruka was having a meltdown from getting memed.

It's actually fun without Ange's garbage team and Shiina's bullshit pitcher.

Here is the peak for today. The other 4 matches (if ever Kagami or Haruka loses) will not top 171k.

>>7892730
What happened to Ame? I thought shes the 2nd most popular

>>7892823
I feel like I've seen a lot more home runs yesterday than today, despite Haruka and Kagami supposedly having stronger teams than the ones from yesterday. Haruka was spaghetting mega hard in her game tho LMFAO. Kuzuha's got the protagonist buff rn so who knows how that game will go.

>>7892730
Not disagreeing with Ina being the 2nd most popular, but Ame is overlapping Minecraft with Gura and Irys so there's going to be some viewer loss. I feel like Ina is much more consistent with her drawing/minecraft streams, when Ame has higher peaks with her karaokes and 3D streams.

>>7892975
Among Us is popular with children. Hence why Gura and Ame are way ahead.

>>7892730
When did CCV become a metric for popularity? I thought it was just a metric for how many people want and can turn in to watch the stream?

Kuzuhas meme team is the funniest shit ever

>>7892975
>What happened to Ame?
For today?
Impromptu minecraft collab with Gura so she didn't prepare and just put a random meme title and troll thumbnail. You would have no idea what she was doing if you just saw her thumbnail. Also overlapping with Gura and Irys rn.

Overall?
It's the results of months of self-sabotage, inconsistent stream times, and generally just doing things Ameway. Ame is a free spirit so she does whatever she wants and that turns people off sometimes, basically the opposite of Ina's streaming style of consistency. This pic was also before the Dec 2020 viewcount change. We're never gonna see numbers like this again.

>>7893011
Ina viwers are cultivated around one timeslot but restof hololive are scattered around the differnt timeslots. Except gura. unfortunately Ina doesnt seems to have that many vod viewers as result.

>>7892975
Ame got the second lowest live viewers in the full collab. Pic is Ame’s average live viewers. Ina just does better than Ame.

>>7893116
The easiest way to see. If you really want to value, you have to check VOD, SC, members

>>7892975
>Coco 4k
damn, no wonder she quitted

>>7893116
>When did CCV become a metric for popularity?
It is a measure of popularity, not the only measure of it.

>>7893196
also to add to this peoplecan see the curren vod views on ina compared to the current one on ames.

>>7893116
its a measure of how many dedicated fans are willing to watch your stream.
>but vod views
see
>>7886688
>>7886701
vod view doesnt mean 1 view is from a unique user.

>>7893238
lol there were 227k people watching Holos at the same time. I'll cut Coco some slack for only getting 4k for a chat stream.

>>7893238
Anon, everyone here knows that she haa average holo numbers when she’s not streaming her shitpost review or special events now btfo.

>>7893116
>When did CCV become a metric for popularity?
This has been the most important metric for vtubers for a few years now, it's why the preferred term in japan these days is "liver" and not "vtuber". Vtubers success is measured in live viewers.

>>7893310
It's the most popular metric for streamers in general, along with "Watch time" calculated by CCV x Hours streamed

>>7893310
After 2019? cause the first group were video type vtuber

>>7893198
Except in usaken festival where ame was 2nd highest for EN POV. It just a matter of timezones really, the total number of fans is still the same Gura>Calli>Ame>Ina>kiara

>>7893238
She was scraping at the bottom before her graduation buff.

>>7893421
Poor Kiara, if she does an introvert personality with deep sounding voice like Olivia, I'm pretty sure she'd be popular. Like a moon owl or something

>>7893479
She's not scraping actually. There's a reason she's the top superchat earner, even higher than Rushia. Her SC baits/reading is on another level. She spends hours on zatsudans.

It’s weird that people fight over what defines success on YouTube, as if it’s one thing vs another. It’s obviously many factors: live viewers, VOD views, upload views (like on songs), subscriber views, SC, and member numbers. There is no debating that these define success on YouTube. So what is the problem?

>>7893420
exactly, the term "vtuber" is a anachronism, but it still fits.

>>7893233
>>7893244
>>7893291
>>7893310
Well if so, it's not really that good cuz if there's a big event like new outfits streams, Ina doesn't even pass 100k but Ame does.

>>7893640
There's no problem. It's only one if shitposters are using it as fuel.

>>7893640
it dpeends entirely from stream to streamer
CCV is what most people use since it is the easier metric to judge but is not the only one.

>>7893685
>Well if so, it's not really that good cuz if there's a big event like new outfits streams, Ina doesn't even pass 100k but Ame does.
Because there are many factors to consider. Not everything has the same value. A one time stream does matter, yes I give you that, but Ina having more and consistent live viewers matters more.

>>7893640
Too difficult, too much nuance. People want to be lazy and the easiest way is Big number > Small number, but only the number I care about!
Of course all metrics are important, but since CCV is the easiest most transparent and readily available number besides subs, it gets used to smack each other like giant foam noodles.
Can't use subs, because well...Gura kinda blows every other v-tuber outta the water for most subbed, and subs don't necessarily mean people will tune in to watch (does not translate to linear increase in CCV). Instead, subs only get brought out when comparing anyone not named Gura, Pekora, or any of the most subbed Holos.

>>7893640
Real numberfags don't argue over something as nebulous as "success". It's more about looking at trends, patterns, and causes for successful vtubers/streams. There's no point in arguing who is the most successful since there's no set definition for it anyways.

>>7893594
*She was scraping at the bottom before her graduation buff while her gachis were showering her in money.

Too bad idk enough powerpro to tell what's actually going on, but Haruka's team is underwhelming considering she's supposed to be the heavy favourite for the tournament.

Also, numbers, 142k now halfway into this game.

today matches are so much better
ange really sabotaged day one numbers

>>7893952
Her high stats isn't doing her much favor to be honest. At least the defence is solid.

>>7893952
another win for Shiina I guess?

>>7893803
>People want to be lazy and the easiest way is Big number > Small number
You can apply that to all of them though. It’s still Big number > Small number
>Can't use subs
Of course you can, in fact almost everyone does to some degree. The question is rather how much value you put on it defining success, rather than saying it is the most important thing. Pewdiepie has low live viewers for his size, but has 100mil subscribers. He’s successful anyway.
>>7893807
>There's no point in arguing who is the most successful since there's no set definition for it anyways.
We know what defines it on YouTube, and I listed them. All of which give numbers,

>>7893685
Big events are impressive, they should not be disregarded but big events come and go. Consistency is key.

>>7893794
>but Ina having more and consistent live viewers matters more
Yeah sure, but I don't give in the "being popular" just for that.

>>7893952
It’s literally just baseball

>>7894294
>Yeah sure, but I don't give in the "being popular" just for that.
Neither do I. My point is simply that it matters more, especially considering that Ina isn’t really that far behind on subs as well. I think there is a clear case for Ina being ahead of Ame in overall popularity.

152k peak for this game. Massive upset. Who knows, maybe Kuzuha vs Kagami can break 175k.

Rion, I believed in you and you deliver.

vtuber is streaming on https://twitch.tv/rtainjapan with 60k viewers right now

>>7894678
>Massive upset

>>7894678
probably not but if it were the 6th game, with finals deciding factor, it absolutely would go beyond 180

>>7894678
is this going to be Shiina vs Hayato finals?

>>7894784
I think that guy is mad Haruka got beaten by a thot that had 3% chance of winning according to the surverys. Kek.

>>7894784
Massive upset as in Rion beat Haruka. I feel like you would know what I meant if you were watching the stream LOL

Meanwhile Belmond is being smart hosting watchalongs of Koshien with guests. First day got him 5,521 viewers while today is already over 11k (with more guests admittedly)

>>7894784
Numberfaggot try watching the stream.

>>7894903
what about tab-in theory then? why would someone be tabbed in his stream instead of main one?

>>7894909
I'm watching both, numberfaggot

>>7894936
Maybe it was just a myth. Meaning that 200k+ in >>7880517 doesn't mean much.

>>7894936
it's a cope theory

>>7894936
just test it yourself with another computer

>>7894936
It's a theory afterall. Technically, it was always somewhat flawed because watch-alongs exist and they don't have 0 viewers. However, it's also suspicious like how in this Koshien stream, 50k people tune out during the intermission and then flood back in within minutes when games resume. Are people actually closing the stream and then rentering the stream? Tabbing out until they hear sounds again seems more likely imo.

Now we need to get rid of "viewers with adblock don't get counted" theory.

>>7894936
Belmond's yesterday stream had hills, don't know what's happening for his stream today though

So numberfagging ina and ame again, both are playing Minecraft for 4 hours, ame with avg ccv of 8k and ina 14k but their respective vods are 191k and 151k.

>>7895428
Tab theory is still on the menu

>>7895428
Stable increase so far.

>>7895538
I thought people were numberfagging Ina vs Gura earlier because Gura only had 9-10k viewers 30 minutes in. Why are they comparing Ina vs Ame numbers now

>>7895563
Yeah that's why it's weird it doesn't show hills. For the first hour, people are tuning into him than watch Haruka vs Kuzuha.

>>7895605
Same case different sample, basically both times ina have more ccv but always less views at the end.

>>7894747
>$25,000 for Doctors Without Borders
It's always funny to see different cultures' perspective on charity.

>>7895605
>Gura only had 9-10k viewers 30 minutes in
Ended with 19k peak actually. A bit of an underperformance for Gura Minecraft, but that anon who said she was declining stopped posting for good reason.

Ina vs Gura is nothing but troll bait since it's obvious the only times Ina's best numbers are only close to Gura's worst numbers. Ame vs Ina is a closer competition since Ame used to be a clear second, but her numbers are all over the place recently when Ina is solid as a rock.

There's no point arguing CCV as it still works for those who stream under the same controlled condition (a streamer streams in a consistent timeslot) such as Ina and JPs. We could always count Gura and the rest of EN out as the special cases since it seems like they got more penalty from having their audience spread across multiple timezones (judging from fresh VoDs counts right after stream ends compared to the control cases).
Do we agree with this as least?

>>7895759
JP chuubas do charity donations too.

>>7895770
You'll never find agreement for that in these threads, because there's too much speculation involved and we have no idea wtf a "spam viewer" even is by Youtube's definition. The only thing we know that is transparent is VOD views in the end, but that has its own caveats.

There's always gonna be people who call this "cope" in these threads anyways so just don't think about too much lol.

>>7895928
I was alluding to how that amount is extremely small compared to something like GDQ.

>>7895770
You can explain why they are losing , but they are still losing.

162k peak for Kuzuha vs Kagami. Was a pretty close game, but looked pretty doomed for Kuzuha after one unlucky inning. Probably why it didn't spike like Haruka vs Kuzuha.

I don't understand baseball, i want to know if tokyo ghoul can get to final or not so we can see some numbers.

>>7896097
He will not be in the finals for the 1st place match, but he will be in the finals stream playing for 7th or 8th place.

>>7896130
Ah rip then, no meme for nijibros that can bring big numbers outside of normalcy now

>>7896320
There is still a possible meme: 7th or 8th place>1st place match

>>7896354
If Kuzuha loses to Rion later, he'll play against Ange tomorrow, which won't do crazy numbers since he'll likely crush her. Her team is by far the worst in the whole tournament so far.

>>7896399
Plenty of people are waiting for Kuzuha vs Ange purely for their banter due to Kuzuha "stealing" Inui from Ange and Lize.