/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>78500578
>they don't even watch anime
whoever said this got down syndrome
my mother was an anime fan, she even had VHS in japanese with subtittle
i grew up watching stuff like dragon ball and hokuto no ken on the fucking national TV channels

>>78500578
>streams at 4 in the night
Fuck off.

>>78500578
have you seen the time slots? they are evidently not entering the euro market they're merely showing burgers some actual culture to gawk at

>>78500831
>>78500911

>>78500831
>>78500911
What makes you retard think they'll stream at the same time the debuts are when all debuts in EN are at the same fucking times?

>>78501229
Myth and Council didn't debut at that time

>>78500831
just wake up early lol

>>78500578
They all look like ass and don't stream at EU times, this is a setup to crash and burn in failure and scream "Look, EU doesn't want VTubers". Dimitri is an absolute retard.

>>78500578
it's going to be funny when 90% of their audience/superchats are from the US anyway

>>78501229
Even if by some miracle they end up streaming at EU hours it's a retarded move no matter how you look at it.
>burgers get to watch their debuts and then can't never watch them again so they become dead debuts
>yuros can't watch their debuts so most won't bother checking out their streams afterwards

>not even streaming at EU hours
lmao

>>78500578
>debut while euros are sleeping
>if they stream in euro time they will overlap the euros
sasuga cover
like everyone I know is watching the euros and we are not even in it (yes all the weebs and nerds watch football, welcome to europe)

>>78501513
dead subs*

>>78500578
it aint confirmed yut, ill believe it when i see it

>Debuts in the middle of the night
>During the Euro
A move so retarded I'm surprised it's not some new Niji wave

>>78500578
I've been let down so many times I expect these people too stream in hours that are impossible as a yuro to watch. Cover would force their talents to stream in NA prime time even if it means preventing their talents to sleep through the night

>>78501229
ask yourself why the hell they'd debut them while europe is actually fast asleep if they're supposedly the target audience? you're choking on copium for some eu holo branch that won't come when there are countless amazing euro indies you could enjoy.

>>78501681
at least one of the new gen has a history of night shifts and she hated it. would 100% expect cover to push her through that hamster wheel again.

>>78500578
AVE ROMA

>>78500578
Too late bro, my schedule is full of baltic hag duck thoughts

>>78501229
...why the fuck would they debut at different time from their normal streaming time, retard?

>>78501511
If they stream at EU times and get decent views / growth, why would cover care where the SC money comes from? In the end the main point is to get a presence in EU, not to start making money right away.

>>78501870
>baltic
she is nordic, she is a norwegian for gods sake

>>78501956
they're not getting a presence in the EU if all their viewers are Americans. They'd have that demographic info where they'd realize that even in their timezone, Euros aren't the ones watching, which would just give more reason to not even bother.

>>78501956
if they want EU viewers then why debut them in the middle of the night and during the euros? whenever they stream everyone will be out drinking with the boys and watching football

>>78501920
Because they need numbers for debut and their stream will be at the most convenient time for them, it's not rocket science.

>>78501920
fuck knows. maybe thats when EN Management is awake.
But why would Europeans regularly stream at 3am?

>>78501956
>In the end the main point is to get a presence in EU
Streaming while everybody in EU is asleep sure as fuck won't grant them presence in EU.

>>78501511
if they stream at 4AM no shit

>>78501511
much like how previous ENs/JPs got superchats from all over EU?

>>78502044
I meant if they stream at Eu prime times

>>78502039
Cool, they'll get numbers from 90% NA, 9.5% Asia and 0.5% EU.
Nobody in EU will even know they exist so they won't tune into later streams even if they're in EU times because only NA people saw the schedule.
You're fucking retarded if you think that's a good plan.

>>78502037
The target demographic certainly does that.

>>78502083
>debut during the night to american and japanese audience
>algorithm learns this and pushes their streams only to americans and japs
>the few euros that would get their streams recommended are watching football
>>78502254
I am a weeb and watch vtubers, I am out with my weeb friends (some watch vtubers) every day to drink beer and watch football

>>78502083
they're debuting in the middle of the night that's guaranteed to be the time of the day (night) all collabs will happen because that's the only time managers are awake

>>78502083
Only NA people will see that they stream in EU times and they'll proceed to not watch the streams unless they WFH/get out early.
EU people see the announcement of new gen on twitter, see unfamiliar timezone, give up like with previous three gens. Some type the timezone into google to convert it (imagine if Cover was the one who did that instead of forcing hundreds of thousands of people of "supposed target audience" to do this crap), see that stream is at 5 in the night which isn't even possible for night owls to watch, give up like with previous three gens.
That's it, end of the story.

Eventually EU people might see the streams if YouTube algorithm decides to show them on home page but that's the single hope. Leaving up to Google RNG assfuckery, with zero effort put in by Cover.

>>78500578
are we talking about european european or are we talking about "british" european?

>>78500578
>Hololive shop still doesn't ship to EU and you have to either use Geekjack or a proxy
Dead on arrival unless they fix this by their debut.

>>78502361
SEAthe

>>78502363
Bri'ish, German, Italian and I think Brazilian? Not sure.

>>78501511
>stream at 5am when no one is awake
>no supas
no shit retard

>>78502381
not a problem, US and SEA and even JP will buy their merch.
Be grateful they might stream in your pointless timezone cuck

>>78501792
Not even just indies, every other corpo has a few EU chuubas as well

>>78502426
I'm all for getting some fresh international blood into Holo, but why in Yagoo's fresh hell would you ever choose a German talent after how Kirara turned out to be?
These people have negative charisma, no exceptions.

>>78502020
Who said it would be easy or fast? Cover is so late to the party that it might take years to get a foothold in europe

>>78500578
They won't stop, they're obsessed.

>British
>EU

They literally voted to NOT be European, why would they care now lmao

>>78502426
the loli is unironically american and is probably bisco from v4mirai

>>78502784
>Kirara

>3 out of 4 already salivating after Homostars cocks in public
who the fuck asked for this group

>>78502784
Lay Off The Robot

>>78502784
Soya is cute though.

>>78500831
5am, it's summer time now
Imagine if they had any brain and just moved this shit like three hours earlier, surely burgers can tune for 17:00 stream, jps can wake up at 7:00 and we could had watched this 2:00. 5:00 is fucking dead on arrival, nobody cares about holovod here.
But it is ok, burgers can enjoy bitches that show their tits to nijien males and we can enjoy our small euro chubas.
500ccv chubas are better than whatever holovod posts anyway

>>78501870
How the fuck could Dimitri let such a talent get away? This tells me enough about this HoloUS Gen.

>>78503067
3 hours would be much better, pretty much anyone could watch.
5 am is really brain dead but I could go to sleep early and still get to sleep my full hours.

>>78502254
it does indeed. everybody does. you unironically have to watch the euros to participate in society right now.

>>78503067
pls understando, mane-chan only comes to work at 9am
they can't stream without mane-chan

>>78502799
thread refers to geographic location and timezone, please take your autism pills

>>78502799
eu the continent, not the european union. surely you know how continents are called right.

Cover marketing is shit as per usual

But as usual with new gens, I'll be give them a look about 3 months after debug(at least the ones that are still standing at that point)

CBA to waste time listening all that lore rp and pretend-to-be-someone-else-for-opsec-reasons bullshit

>>78500578
You got what you wanted, now we'll see if you actually support them and watch their streams.

>>78502784
nah, Kiara is the exception
Very unfortunate one.

>>78503860
>You got what you wanted
I did not fucking ask for this.

Badabing badabong
your EUchuuba is now sucking pignoys dong

>retards having slap fights about what ifs and maybes
have you considered at least waiting until after their debuts before throwing shit at each other like the subhumans monkeys you are?

>>78504540
>>78504562
very organic posts

>>78504621
What are we gonna supposed to do until then? This is the only content.

>>78504699
There is a reason nobody watches nijisanji.

In the words of the legendry Johnny Silverhand ... fuck the corpos Indi's are the only true vtubers

>>78504621
pffffthahahahaha
Do you even know where you are?

>>78504748
>What are we gonna supposed to do until then?
watch streams retard
or if you are a brainlet who can't into 日本語 watch vods

>>78501650
>middle of the night
>05:00 CET

>>78500578
Why are they debuting in the middle of the night for me then?! They'll go for the NA timeslot because that's what cover tells them where their audience it supposedly at. Anything else I'll believe if I see it.

>>78504883
Post me a section of a Japanese stream that hasn't been clipped yet with an explanation on what's happening and I tell you why you're wrong and why you don't know Japanese.

>>78504992
https://www.youtube.com/live/iBHHT8GUj7c?si=ClWwNtzM3hLsGF2L&t=3340
Lamy talking about where she puts her hololive merch on her house mentioning that she got very little in the bathroom and areas that could need maintenance. she later mentions how nice it would be to have a hidden room

sorry i kinda just started watching the vods instead of searching for a part to translate.
but i am more than willing to admit that my own japanese is lacking

>>78502784
this bait's quality is so low that it makes me answer anyway. Kiara is EN's 2nd most superchatted talent so i'd argue she turned out to be a good investment, and also kiara is not german.

>>78504783
Based and True

5 AM isn't even that bad, since I usually wake up to work at 6 AM anyways, I can give up this 1 hour of sleep once
>it's on weekend
Yeah nevermind, not going to give up one of the few days I can sleep like normal human being, maybe I will watch VODs

>>78506335
Based anon delivering with his nihongo reps. There should be more like us, even if life is tough as oppressed continent.

>>78500578
This will honestly be the final straw if they're yet another gen focused solely on Americans who already have more choices than they know what to do with. I'm huffing strong copium that the debut streams being so late is a one off, but it makes no logical sense for a gen targeted for Europeans to debut stream when 99.5% of Europeans are asleep. People saying it's just to get maximum views make even less sense. That would mean they have little faith in the appropriate European timezone, which means they wouldn't make a gen for us to begin with. We still can't even buy fucking merch.

I'm holding out hope but if they speak and I hear American accents again and see their streams are all going to be in the middle of the night then I'm done having any hope. At least we have Rin Penrose.

>>78506465
It's fine even Europeans don't differentiate between Germany and Austrai
>superchats
When we talk streamers as big as Hololive, that's a sad cope. Superchats are a tiny fraction of what they earn through merch and sponsorships.

>>78507628
Cover is a big numberfag. They probably want to collect as many subs as possible so they can market them better. Not that it makes it any better for debuting in EU.

>>78507628
what I dont get is that they have been streaming on youtube for years and still havent learnt that the youtube algorithm will learn what audience it should recommend your content to, so what happens when you debut to 99.5% non europeans and then switch over to stream in euro prime time (while the euros are on btw roru)
its like they want to fail, nothing they have done has inspired confidence that they are actually going into the EU market. Like they are not even spending money out the wazoo on ads for the debuts for example, they have not fixed shipping to EU etc
All I see is a bong, 2 (or 3) ESL girls that will move their streaming times to NA prime time

Calling it now, worst HoloEN gen. Screencap this.
Im an EU and cover is fucking this one up really good.

>>78506335
You're right, she was talking about hiding figures and stuff with a cloth but that easily topples them over, and she got 隠し部屋 part in chat to which she reacted to. I didn't watch more because I'm at work, sorry for doubting you anon. I only asked because most people who talk about Japanese here are larpers, I've asked the same thing many times and you're the first person who replied.

>>78508338
Should have poached Erika Byakko, she is made for hololive but now she is in pixellink instead

>>78508496
funny you say this, she and Panko are my most favorite together with Biboo(who isnt EU friendly unfortunately)

>>78508496
She is great, absolutely mogs everyone in holoen quality wise. No clue if cover passed her or she hadn't applied. If they choose that pink trash throwing her tits at Ren over her, then they are seriously brain dead.
I hope she will get big enough to stream full time, instead of being stuck with day job. Maybe one day

>>78508496
>>78509362
Who's that girl? Never heard of her.
They obviously went with the pink girl because she has connections, she's a nepo hire.

>>78509625
Kanna Yanagi from Pixellink, here is her schedule
A bit heavy on minecraft and elden ring since they both released today (server in minecraft and elden ring dlc)
She is part time btw and took a week of vacation to stream

>>78507541
it would be nice to have more anons who enjoy the jps. even just for the chance of having a meet up at holofes
>>78508395
thanks for explaining the finer details. i still need to learn a lot more to reach the level i want

>>78500578
COVER DID THE IMPOSSIBLE
next stop will be the reconquering of CHINA
hire 5 ABCs that can speak chink language fluently for those sweet and juicy chink bucks

Euros are like impossible to market to, it's 50 cultures who all want to kill each other and aren't in a real union. It's like if every state in the US was Texas and Island Texas didn't even stay in the union so why are posting it's flag? But you see what I mean, it hasn't even been one human lifetime and the history of the EU is already full of disappointment and convolutions to the point an American can barely follow it. Whatever group I market to will just be liquidated later anyway, it's literally a safer bet to market to the Chinese because as shitty as they are at least they're not going anywhere.

>>78510115
shut the fuck up jap dimitri

>>78504783
I know this to be true in the long run but I'm here for the ride anyway. In the end, you will know the "corpos" by their true name: MCNs aka Maker aka Machinima.

And that's the best case scenario. The worst is they continue to grow and destroy all competition from the indie scene, and then sell to Disney or something. I'd rather the whales fall.

>>78509805
Oh I see, I listened to some of her ASMRs but never really looked at her channel. Thanks anon, I'll watch some of her content.

>>78500578
>4am
>euro
Why should I watch covers "eu chuubas" in the middle of the night when I can watch cute eu indies like Laimu at 8pm prime time and then sleep at night and not be a zombie at work the next day?

>>78510115
you don't know a single thing about europe

>>78510905
This, if they deny me the chance of being there for the debut streams then why should I give a fuck. I want to be able to say that I was there since day 1

>>78501854
Why do you keep getting buffed you UMU piece of shit? Give some of that love to Emiya

>>78510115
>it's 50 cultures who all want to kill each
Honestly not wrong, I don't know a single European country that doesn't hate their neighbors. For instance, we fucking hate all Romanians

Cover has expressed zero interest in the EU market so far and will probably continue to not care about Euros for the foreseeable future unless proven otherwise.
Thankfully the market has already provided plenty of indie and small corpo options over the years catering to almost any taste.
Also a small reminder that merch sales are more important than akasupas. Euros don't tip just for the sake of you existing, they pay you because you offer an actual product they consider worth buying.

>>78501870
>baltic
i kekking wish, too bad my local osh just sodded off without resurfacing

>>78502099
Nobody in EU will watch their debuts anyway. They need time to capture EU market share. So for now, they work within existing markets that are stronger, then spread out later as more yuros actually start watching.

>>78502801
That's the only reason they can get me to watch any of them

>>78510115
the only thing that euros want is streams in the timezone. you dont market to anyone specific because literally everyone speaks english anyway lol

>>78510115
>it's 50 cultures who all want to kill each other
damn that sounds like the US

NICE FCKING """"""EU""""""CHUUBA
>going to sleep at 5PM EU time
I CAN'T WAIT FOR ALL THE STREAMS IN EU TIMEZONE
https://x.com/raorapanthera/status/1803441221169455374

>>78500578
Well as an EU, I feel disappointed HoloEN4 starts their debuts at 4 in the morning!

It doesn't feel very "HoloEU"

>Streaming at hours only NEETs would be awake for
Maybe they're friendly for Southern Europeans but not the rest of us. Kiara remains being the only truly EU friendly HoloEN.

>>78509805
unicorn status?

>>78517628
my horn is strong and shiny
>>78517621
not when she starts her streams like 15:00-16:00, she is for weirdos

>>78517628
no homo ineraction whatsoever in her previous channels
30 years old hag, she knows better than a retarded zoomer

>>78510115
You say this yet Yagoo targets SEAs who are far more volatile and poor

>>78507628
>At least we have Rin Penrose
You might want to check the latest stream on the channel

>>78517923
>>78517932
I've not ever actually given Pixellink a look, what about the others there?

>>78502784
austrians arent german

>>78510115
euros hate each other, but we like each over more than niggers

>>78502042
Why do people work night shifts?

>>78518214
Raki is GFE
Miuna is your bedridden little sister experience
Lottie is some walmart pomu
Chiaki has some schizo trying to bruteforce a boyfriend yab
Chio is your obligatory loud zoomer
Arisu is an autistic latina
Daiya is gonna end up being sex trust the plan

The only male collaber the corpo had graduated, so far the corpo is cgdct things core

>>78518602
I'll have to check them out thanks lad

>>78518531
>The Point
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>>78518741
Right back at you. If their job description requires them to stream at that hour, they'll stream at that hour.

>>78500578
We got EU but at what cost anon. Two already whored their models and one is a homo/niji collaber.

>>78518349
Sure, anon. They're completely different people, like Alabamans and Texans.

Any concrete proof they're all really from EU?

>>78501650
I'm thinking Euro it the very reason they go for 5am timeslot. 8pm primeslot is just not going to work out in the middle of football matches. 5am is good compromise, considering this should bring in NA and JP views, too. What is questionable though, is them debuting new gen in the middle of fucking Euro.

>>78519908
Nothing 100% concrete, just lots of little hints
>innit in the original announcement
>other ENs making EU jokes (Shiori talking about Holo England, Wawa making Italian jokes, etc.)
>their home regions all correspond to places in Europe in some way
>Elizabeth Rose being a very stereotypical British name (though we did also have Ame and she's US)
>Immergreen has 'Immer', which is German in origin
apparently Mori also implied they won't be streaming at the same time as their debuts happen but I didn't hear her say that myself, just picked it up from other posts.

>>78501650
don't forget about the Elden Ring dlc releasing

>>78518700
the duck just started streaming now

>Muh footballs
Are you guys that much of normalfaggots? Every weeb I know barely follow footballs during the world cup. I didn't even know there was the euro cup until Kiara talked about the austrian being beaten by the french. If they prefer watching dudes running behind a ball then they are not the target demographics.

>>78520984
nigga, you just demonstrated that even kiara cares about the cup.

>>78520845
Guess I'll catch the VOD, the footie is on

>>78520984
not interested but everyone knows when it's ongoing because it's fucking everywhere, can't even avoid it because people are literally screaming from their own homes

>>78521268
Kiara is the most normalfag among myth.

>>78520259
Meanwhile one is confirmed for living in Japan and streaming in japan prime time, another one that isnt confirmed used to stream in american prime time
This is going to be a dumpster fire and there will be no more HoloEU, why the fuck are they debuting when no euro can watch AND WHY DURING THE EUROS
jesus christ

>>78520984
Only fat nerds who were picked last seethe about football.
Now go be the goalie, fattie.

>>78520984
Euro families are more close knit than American ones so when your da tells you to sit your ass down in the couch and watch the footy then that is exactly what you do.

>>78500772
are you french

>>78521459
Being aware and actively following are different matter. Football is also heavily advertise here but I will not go out of my way watching a match just because my country plays that day. I'd rather watch an anime girl instead.

>>78521518
in what world normalfags try to become idols in nipland

>>78500772
Based mom.

>>78500578
Those are all still good arguments, Cover just fell for eurobeggar propaganda. This gen will be the biggest flop in EN.

>>78521722
Not all euro families care about football especially when it's not the world cup.

>>78500578
>it's too difficult
>europeans don't superchat
>they don't even watch anime
These phrases were said by literal SEAmonkeys that simply didn't want an EU gen because they can't watch them. It was never true, it was a psyop.

>>78522068
yeah but what I'm saying is that it's not really that weird that euroweebs know so much about sports in comparison with American ones

>>78500578
They're relying on Americans to support them.

>>78521996
>Those are all still good arguments

>>78522200
Oh yeah I agree it's just that the argument of not being able to stream for eu because of football is a shitty excuse. Euroweeb will absolutely choose the funny anime girl than watching football.

>>78520984
You obviously aren't European. Even people that don't give a shit about football watch the Euros.

>>78522372
You'll see I'm right when they have ID-tier numbers.

>>78522579
no they don't

>>78522579
Oh yes I am. Most weeb I know of really don't care about foot unless it's the world cup. I don't care about the rest of the normalfags since they don't watch Vtuber anyway.

>>78522711
>

>all the girls are euro
>but all live in Japan like Kiara before
That's some monkey pawn tier shit.

>>78522579
am euro
learned that football was happening because people talked about it here
there's always some football happening so I just kind of tune it out unless it's the world cup and my country is doing well.

>>78500578
you have to be delusional to see that time slot and think "europe". this is a hardcore FUCK YOU to the entire continent.

>>78522579
European here. Don't give a shit about football. Don't give a shit about Euros. That whole sport can frankly go fuck itself.

>>78522363
It's where the EN money is. For now, at least. They're probably trying to slowly expand their options. Testing the waters to see if EU has any real potential.

Heres my expectations:

1 Cantonese girl in London.
2 Canadians. Asian. Probably Korean.
1 Australian. Probably Chinese.

>>78521601
>Meanwhile one is confirmed for living in Japan and streaming in japan prime time, another one that isnt confirmed used to stream in american prime time
This is going to be the Myth situation 2, where they can't collab on the regular like Promise and Advent do.
That's fine if they want to be independent streamers without a gen, or the euros will have to stream during 2AM and overlap Faunina hours and Kiara's superchat reading slot.

>>78526028
I just wanted them to live in europe so we get euro prime time streams and some kino off collabs but that seems to be asking for too much. I'll stay with my small corpo vtubers since hololive cant offer a superior (or equal) product

>>78520259
Ah, now I get it. I thought it was just anons making assumptions just because one of them may be British but their home regions being inspired by places in Europe is strong evidence. Thanks.

>>78522579
Midsummer is a couple of days away so more people are talking about that.

>>78519908
Mori said not to worry about their debuts being at that time because their streaming times will be different. The only reason she would say that is to reassure people who can't watch them then, and those people are Europeans.

>>78527877
and who cares about what mori says, it wont reach the masses of casual vtuber watchers in europe, hell it wont even reach many of the europeans that are pretty into vtubers

>>78529006
Well, yeah, I never claimed otherwise. This is a classic Cover move that makes talents have to clear things out themselves as much as they can.

>>78501513
>>yuros can't watch their debuts
nigga the debuts are in the weekend, i can simply set my alarm for 4:55 AM you fucking retard